The Luger in Finland

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@kyleclark4449
@kyleclark4449 3 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure that this was an April Fool's video, and he was going to pull out a Lahti.
@brotherhoodofsteelpaladin5873
@brotherhoodofsteelpaladin5873 3 жыл бұрын
That would have been terrible Ian: here's a luger *PULLS OUT TAHITI* as you can see it has a different style. It would have been funny if he said here's a arasaka and pulled out a mosin
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 3 жыл бұрын
@@brotherhoodofsteelpaladin5873 That would be silly, Tahiti is an island, Lahti means gulf. Completely opposite. :p
@brotherhoodofsteelpaladin5873
@brotherhoodofsteelpaladin5873 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kumimono instead of lahti or tahiti what if he pulled out a mk IV Ruger
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 3 жыл бұрын
@@brotherhoodofsteelpaladin5873 That, would be just weird. 🤔
@terry7907
@terry7907 3 жыл бұрын
Or a Bergman
@91chevys10
@91chevys10 3 жыл бұрын
He was recently in Finland, but shows off finnish arms in the U.S. The gun jesus acts in mysterious ways.
@FrostyShock349
@FrostyShock349 3 жыл бұрын
He was probably too busy enjoying Finland, anyone would too
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 3 жыл бұрын
After shooting this vid he went home and poured a Kyro whiskey and said to himself: "I'll just do 10 maybe 15 more videos on the history of Finnish firearms. Then I'll have decently expressed my gratitude for their hospitality and friendship during the Finish Brutality event." ... And THAT is why the doors to nearly every gun vault in the world are open to Gun Jesus. And quite often so even by specific request.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 3 жыл бұрын
I just know gun Jesus was at a distillery, so the miracles start, and in honor, I ran my still to pay honor to Sprits, now I Am "Spirited!!"
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrostyShock349 He did mention shooting some videos when he was here, not sure if he just meant the brutality videos or if he filmed some firearms as well. Hopefully the latter. :)
@johannespilvikukka6003
@johannespilvikukka6003 3 жыл бұрын
He is wearing the ceremonial merino-hoodie from Varusteleka. It symbolises perfection.
@DamianMaisano
@DamianMaisano 3 жыл бұрын
Its always so nice when your submarine come pre-equipped with Lugers
@np22-b2i
@np22-b2i 3 жыл бұрын
And now we can't have submarines anymore :( How else are we supposed to get our cool Lugers!!
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 3 жыл бұрын
Like the British ships that were sold off post war that came with a complement of LANCHESTER SMG's!
@coolspruta
@coolspruta 3 жыл бұрын
Can't find the reference right now, but I remember reading, that the submarine "Vesikko" was equipped with 7.65mm Luger pistols and 6.5mm Mauser rifles (presumably Swedish). There have been m/23 Lugers floating around with unit plates from one of the 5 submarines. Of course, the plates could still be mismatched. Anyway, the subs were built at a Finnish shipyard (as part of the German inter-war rearmament R&D program), and I doubt Germany actually supplied any small arms for them. They were not officially involved with the program. The "Vesikko" is the only surviving and restored Finnish submarine. It's on display and open to the public on the fortress island of Suomenlinna, right outside Helsinki.
@ilmari132
@ilmari132 3 жыл бұрын
@@np22-b2i We actually are allowed to have subs now since we declared the limitations of the Paris peace agreement invalid in the 1990s. We even considered buying old submarines from Sweden but decided building a submarine arm from the ground up to serve in what is basically a deep puddle was not worth the cost.
@np22-b2i
@np22-b2i 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilmari132 Oh I see, I didn't know that. I thought the Paris agreement was still valid. I guess we also still keep to the 50 fighter aircraft allowance because we don't spend 90% of our tax money on defense lol. It's fair enough since wasn't the agreement basically signed to appease the USSR?
@scipio10000
@scipio10000 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot your morning application of Cosmoline! You are worth it, remember!
@scipio10000
@scipio10000 3 жыл бұрын
@Stop Banningme You mean, to twirl it around.
@christophers.8553
@christophers.8553 3 жыл бұрын
@Stop Banningme Wow, imagine explaining THAT to poison control.
@brecht9863
@brecht9863 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, patreon supporter inside joke :)
@Hobgob1inz
@Hobgob1inz 3 жыл бұрын
Russian face cleanser
@fshn4x4
@fshn4x4 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's natural...maybe it's Cosmoline.
@Voimakas
@Voimakas 3 жыл бұрын
Perkele! Which, according to Ian in Varusteleka's video, means "Here in Finland, we love everybody." Perfect.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 3 жыл бұрын
Well, my friend visiting Finland said everyone said it to him all the time so clearly it is a term of affection. ;P
@ThorbjrnRagnar
@ThorbjrnRagnar 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha Perrrrrrkele !
@josephthomas8318
@josephthomas8318 3 жыл бұрын
Uh.. guys Nevermind..
@Voimakas
@Voimakas 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephthomas8318 Mitä? 4th gen Finnish-American here. I know exactly what perkele means. Though I learned it in the context of: saatana perkele!
@josephthomas8318
@josephthomas8318 3 жыл бұрын
I learned it from a war movie where a Finnish soldier yelled "perkele" at the top of his lungs while firing his machine gun at Russian soldiers. Not sure the exact translation, but it cant be a good thing.
@OsKuukkeli
@OsKuukkeli 3 жыл бұрын
"Vankeinhoitolaitos" transtalates to "department of prisoner care" or more directly "The department that takes care of prisoners", which sounds pretty ominous. :D
@Doomsday_Report
@Doomsday_Report 3 жыл бұрын
7.65mm takes care of many things.
@rautavaara9194
@rautavaara9194 3 жыл бұрын
@dimapez Or Crime Consequences Agency, which is fitting.
@rautavaara9194
@rautavaara9194 3 жыл бұрын
@dimapez Ah, that's their own translation, I see. I just literally translated Rikosseuraamuslaitos.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 3 жыл бұрын
well bureau of prisons, basically
@gringostarr69
@gringostarr69 3 жыл бұрын
I would say department of corrections, but finnish prison system can have so many translations..
@mikkoolavijarvinen3653
@mikkoolavijarvinen3653 3 жыл бұрын
Ian kaivaa Lugerin esiin, alushousuni turhaan pesin
@Alemikkola
@Alemikkola 3 жыл бұрын
Humpataanko Jenkeissä?
@toolthoughts
@toolthoughts 3 жыл бұрын
saakeli olin samaa kirjoittamassa pentele!
@MrAapel1
@MrAapel1 3 жыл бұрын
Humppalain toistuva rikkominen johtaa tekemisiin vankeihoitolatoksen kanssa
@legogonkdroid3792
@legogonkdroid3792 3 жыл бұрын
Itekki oon suomalainen
@aidenhall8593
@aidenhall8593 3 жыл бұрын
Perkele!
@radialrothary
@radialrothary 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding 4:20, the Finnish Navy actually only ever had total 5 submarines, of which all were built in Finland, one being a type II-A prototype ordered by the Germans (who can't officially build their own due to the treaty of Versailles) in 1930 (launched 1933), who then sold it to the Finnish Navy in 1936 after they were done testing it, the other 4 subs only ever having been in finnish hands. I have no clue on how many Lugers the Germans might have left on the submarine in question, but it's the only one Finland bought from Germany. The submarine in question is Vesikko, which you might've seen at the Suomenlinna sea fort in Helsinki where it's displayed, it being the only surviving submarine of the Finnish Navy.
@foleymaj
@foleymaj 3 жыл бұрын
Fits the same pattern that Ian has mentioned in some other videos, where Germans did some of their weapons development abroad to circumvent the Versailles treaty. Some small arms in Switzerland (Solothurn), anti-tank cannons in the Soviet Union, submarines in Finland etc. Probably some other stuff in other countries as well.
@KrejciTom
@KrejciTom Жыл бұрын
Suomenlinna fort - have been there about 33 years ago - I forgot the name, you remembered it to me! 👍🏻
@coolspruta
@coolspruta 3 жыл бұрын
The second gun seems to have an LP08 "artillery" Luger upper, but with a short 7.65 barrel. This is entirely consistent with the whole m/23 order, as a lot of them were assembled from leftover WW1 parts at DWM.
@OlliRuotsalainen
@OlliRuotsalainen 3 жыл бұрын
A note on the early Finnish officer corps, they were not all trained in Germany. While the jäger troops made up a big part of them, a lot of especially senior officers also came from the tzarist Russian and subsequently white forces of the Russian civil war. Most notably Mannerheim himself. Having two main sources of officers led to some issues with cultural differences, even as late as the winter war.
@GCho733
@GCho733 3 жыл бұрын
I had to skip to the end first to see if this was an April fools video.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting perfection the way they did with the Mosin. Instead they went full Bubba. 😳
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I love, love, love shooter grade guns.
@pekkakoski6595
@pekkakoski6595 3 жыл бұрын
As a finn, I looked the video through to check out april fools, too bad there was none! Otherwise great clip as usual by Ian :)
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 3 жыл бұрын
.......but that would have been the Finnish purchase Elbonian Lugers.....
@georgesears934
@georgesears934 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I thought it would be some horrible Khyber Pass monstrosity with fake Finnish markings.
@DapperDaPonte
@DapperDaPonte 3 жыл бұрын
“I like French pistols as much as the next person, maybe more so...” 😆
@bachtomin213
@bachtomin213 3 жыл бұрын
"I like French pistols, and I cannot lie...."
@chad4359
@chad4359 3 жыл бұрын
Is funny cause it's true
@notyermama1597
@notyermama1597 3 жыл бұрын
Coffee, toast, and Ian explaining interesting facts about Finnish lugers? Perfect start to my day! :-)
@billchessell8213
@billchessell8213 3 жыл бұрын
I second that opinion! I have never read the comments before so I had never heard Ian referred to as the “gun Jesus” but I dare say that phrase may have crossed my mind before. It is SO refreshing to come here and not have a clue as to what his politics are and just get an education on the engineering and history of the guns, which suits my interests perfectly. Thank you Ian, coffee, toast and Ian’s new video. Just about the best start to a day possible.
@garymoore8711
@garymoore8711 3 жыл бұрын
@@billchessell8213 that is the only reason I watch Ian's videos. NO Politics from Ian ever! I can learn a great deal about the history of weapons and never have to wade through the filth of someone's politics.
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I agree guns that saw service and hard use are a lot more interesting than an immaculate safe queen.
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 3 жыл бұрын
First time I didn't skip the add! :D (it was the Varusteleka Cosmolene add, featuring Ian himself! (y) ) My grandpa's Parabellum (as Lugers are known here) is the original 7,65 mm caliber with the shorter barrel but the front sight has been changed to a similar one as on the rebarreled on this video. There is a place for the unit disk on the grip, but it has been removed. Quite a lot of reserve officers kept their sidearms after the war, I believe they were not demanded back with the rest of the equipment when they were released from service (there was a threat of Russians trying invasion again/soviets using the Finnish communists to put up a puppet goverment)
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the ad on Bloke's channel...HILARIOUS! Only Ian could have pulled it off.
@kevinwestermann1001
@kevinwestermann1001 3 жыл бұрын
You people get advertisements? 😳
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 3 жыл бұрын
I love the ‘beater’ gun, really shows its history. Given the date, I’m mildly surprised Ian didn’t tell us about the ‘MG42 Bullpup conversion in 5.7x28mm’ behind him.
@Puutiain3n
@Puutiain3n 3 жыл бұрын
Hey @Forgotten weapons I live roughly 2 kilometers away from the factory, where these were made here in Tikkakoski, Central Finland. The building these were made back then, is currently used as a library!
@davisbwaddell
@davisbwaddell 3 жыл бұрын
I recently watch "The Unknown Soldier" and an officer was carrying a Luger. I found that interesting but it made since given Finland's history. Glad to get that history fleshed out with this video.
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it too it's available on youtube with english subtitles
@bburchellphotos
@bburchellphotos 3 жыл бұрын
And for April Fools, I was half expecting Ian to be doing one of those shooting matches with a French musket or something haha
@kenduncan3221
@kenduncan3221 3 жыл бұрын
rubberband gun was my call.
@jonwingfieldhill6143
@jonwingfieldhill6143 3 жыл бұрын
Or his french throwing rock lol
@LanceSniper001
@LanceSniper001 3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a fully serious nerf history/review/shooting.
@broadstken
@broadstken 3 жыл бұрын
The look of "been there, done that" is much more interesting to me than a nice clean factory fresh piece, especially on military weapons, or really anything military. I like being able to look at something and see all the scars of a long life
@pystykorva7114
@pystykorva7114 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoyed your stay in Finland Ian, keep them videos coming!
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 2 жыл бұрын
6:50 Small correction, both regular pistol and hotter submachine gun 9 mm ammo was loaded and used in Finland. The SMG ammunition was marked as such (both on the box and with a black or green primer pocket sealant), but having mixups by a careless loader is not unheard-of.
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 3 жыл бұрын
You are becoming a Tikkakoski Mannequin. :) Funny thing, as a kid, I thought "Lahti pistooli" meant any sort of pistol, smuggled from the front, for the explicit purpose of butchering farm animals. "Lahti" or "lahtaus" meaning "butchering", among many things. Also means gulf. And is the name of the guy who designed the pistol. Aimo can also mean "big" or "large". A big gulf, Aimo Lahti. :)
@randomnobodovsky3692
@randomnobodovsky3692 3 жыл бұрын
Great example of logical reasoning based on isufficient data. (And also pretty funny).
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts 3 жыл бұрын
Shades of kuusi palaa
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better on KZbin than seeing Ian cover firearms from the fatherland! Didn't know all that about Lugers here in Finland, explains why I've seen them sold relatively cheaply in the very limited Finnish surplus market.
@33Luger
@33Luger 3 жыл бұрын
They would sell for good money if they got imported into the states.
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches 3 жыл бұрын
@@33Luger I bet they would, but hopefully they won't so I'll have a chance to grab one if I ever get the permits. Even without that, I think it would be a shame if none were left here where they served. Just about the prices, there's one dealer in Finland who currently has a Fedoroff automatic rifle for sale for less than 5000€, I'm sure it would bring many times that in the US, I've never even seen one go for auction there. He has a Simonov as well... Oh how I wish I could get those, but it's a nightmare to get the permits for collecting firearms here unfortunately.
@np22-b2i
@np22-b2i 3 жыл бұрын
You mention these guys' long service, the SUOMI KP31 was only officially taken out of "oh shit it's war" warehouses in the 2000's. I know people who got to dump drum after drum of ammo through them during their national service because the army was getting rid of all their old ammo and guns.
@Doppeldropper
@Doppeldropper 3 жыл бұрын
It was pretty common to paint the rear sight and front sight with white or red (have seen both colours used) paint by e.g. military personnel when they used them for military & other competition shooting. Likevise they usually filed the front sight to match the point of aim exactly. I have seen these sold in the past with both 7,65 Para barrel as "spare" while the gun itself had the newer 9mm Para Tikkakoski barrel installed. Many army service parabellums and L-35 sure got beating in WW2 battles and also after the WW2 due having used Suomi SMG ammunition. Even long after WW2 the pistol ammunition in 9mm para was in short supply so in armed service use these guns broke after a while. My dad's service L-35 was welded at least 3 times because of this reason. Many after ww2 P-1/P-38's broke down due to same reason, I've seen e.g. one P-38 with slide broken into two separe parts due to use of Suomi SMG ammunition.
@IrishTechnicalThinker
@IrishTechnicalThinker 3 жыл бұрын
Was out shooting today in Ireland, 1st time in over a year. Need to improve my skills.
@brentfellers9632
@brentfellers9632 3 жыл бұрын
Same here practice makes perfect 🇨🇦
@drivernephi2212
@drivernephi2212 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get any Irishmen?
@tdrakce
@tdrakce 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to hear about the Elbonian Luger. Maybe the next time one of the auction houses has them in stock. Regardless thanks for all the great content. Happy Easter. Steve
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS for revisiting this subject.
@andrewwillmott28
@andrewwillmott28 3 жыл бұрын
your wealth of knowledge on firearms continues to amaze me, thank you for all the interesting videos, much appreciated!
@coomercommander2554
@coomercommander2554 3 жыл бұрын
he ain't called the gun jesus for no reason
@shura0107
@shura0107 3 жыл бұрын
According to some article I read this morning, Finland has the highest prison escape percentage in the EU, at about 10% of all prisoners will escape (and be recaptured). I don't know what prisons were like in the Winter/Continuation War, but in modern times, some of them are open air prisons with integration into local communities where inmates can find work, which makes it easy to escape, but also lowers recidivism and there's not much violent crime to begin with. When I visited the island of Suomenlinna, one section of the island is an active prison, where inmates have to repair parts of the old fort, and another section is the Finnish Navy Officer's school. All this to say, I doubt the one marked with the Prison System markings was used much once it got transferred over.
@seanlukew7499
@seanlukew7499 3 жыл бұрын
Pre-roll of Ian putting cosmoline on his face for Varusteleka nice!
@gleisbauer25
@gleisbauer25 3 жыл бұрын
The German Unit the Finns fought in was the Königlich Preußisches Reserve Jäger Bataillon Nr. 27.
@archmagosbiologusraucker2178
@archmagosbiologusraucker2178 3 жыл бұрын
8:58 vankienhoitolatos means quite literally prisoner treatment center/facility.
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 3 жыл бұрын
In the context, laitos refers to (prisoner care) administration.
@mursuhillo242
@mursuhillo242 3 жыл бұрын
Buut it is not. It is a legal institution, not a specific, concrete place/location.
@archmagosbiologusraucker2178
@archmagosbiologusraucker2178 3 жыл бұрын
@@mursuhillo242 see if i care
@mursuhillo242
@mursuhillo242 3 жыл бұрын
@@archmagosbiologusraucker2178 ei toi oikee käänny lontooks, mut papukaijamerkki yrittämisest
@archmagosbiologusraucker2178
@archmagosbiologusraucker2178 3 жыл бұрын
@@mursuhillo242 tarpeeks lähelle osu joka tapaiksessa.
@kennethquesenberry2610
@kennethquesenberry2610 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video as usual. I think it's remarkable and interesting how so many different pre-WWI automatic pistols were still in service as late as the 1980s. The US 1911 is probably the best known here but there were Lugers, FN 1903 and no doubt others, too.
@jansenart0
@jansenart0 3 жыл бұрын
2:00 I think it's safe to say that Ian likes French pistols a little bit more than anyone.
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
@JohnDoe-pv2iu 3 жыл бұрын
People's heritage often attracts them to arms of a particular country. Its gotta be rough when a lot of that country's weapons really sucked. Gee, for Christmas I want a Chauchat and a Lebel rifle... At least collecting them might be a little less expensive than others!🤣🤣🤣 Great Video. Yall take care and be safe, John
@johnsegertsons2143
@johnsegertsons2143 3 жыл бұрын
Then everyone ,even the French.
@vaikkajoku
@vaikkajoku 3 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to suspect Ian has some sort of bromance with Finland
@GoodSamaritanSniperSociety
@GoodSamaritanSniperSociety 3 жыл бұрын
We need all the love we can get.
@halo7oo
@halo7oo 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is a good April fool joke Ian, you even went through the trouble of putting images and information over the internet years before this video! You really had me there with the so-called "Finnish Lugers".
@chstra45
@chstra45 3 жыл бұрын
Ian: "...also a lot of Arisakas, that's a subject for a latter video..." Me, standing abruptly from the breakfast table slamming my coffee mug: "I need to know now!" Wife, from living room: "What the hell is going on?"
@TheBuzzo72
@TheBuzzo72 3 жыл бұрын
The Russo-Japanese war of 1904-1905.
@chstra45
@chstra45 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBuzzo72 you're supposed to say "spoiler alert."
@cheapolegunguy
@cheapolegunguy 3 жыл бұрын
It appears to be a Ma-Duce, a Buzzsaw and a Pig, talk about being amongst your best friends who have your back :)
@KrejciTom
@KrejciTom Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Today I’ve bought P08 from the Finnish contract. Marking “SA”, 120mm barrel TIKKA 9mm, perfect condition. Your video helped me to understand few details I didn’t know about it. On my one there is 1915 on the top… I don’t understand why - did they buy in the 1920’s pistol produced in 1915?
@forty4forty1
@forty4forty1 3 жыл бұрын
A few of the long-barreled Finish Lugars came into Canada in 2005. One of the few factory Military Issue Luger Canadians can own, with the longer barrel.
@Spirit_of_Yubel
@Spirit_of_Yubel 3 жыл бұрын
Ian's video is clean. ....Now I fear what Karl's going to upload.....
@bami2
@bami2 3 жыл бұрын
Probably something along the lines of adding a picatinny rail and magnified optics to a blunderbuss.
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 3 жыл бұрын
@@bami2 Blunderbuss with Holosun red dot and quick detach magnifier.
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it's about a historical april fool's from the wild west.^^
@catfish552
@catfish552 3 жыл бұрын
Ian's April Fools post is on the Varusteleka channel.
@Spirit_of_Yubel
@Spirit_of_Yubel 3 жыл бұрын
@@catfish552 I didn't know, and I don't think I'm subbed to that channel.
@nAricxd
@nAricxd 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid again! Greetings from Finland. These finnish guns are so fascinating especially as a finn
@GeekControl2MajorTim
@GeekControl2MajorTim 3 жыл бұрын
"Prisoner administration system", that's a brutal description for a gun (yeah, I know it's the organisation I prefer to think it's the function of the device)
@wilhelm_iron2359
@wilhelm_iron2359 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Luger that I've been told is a Finnish police luger, but I have serious doubts about this. It has police- like markings on the front of the grip, and is chambered in .30 Luger, but has an LP08 length barrel and rear sight. I always assumed that the guy I hear this from was right, but it has no discernible Finnish markings on it, so I'm a bit lost now
@markusr353
@markusr353 3 жыл бұрын
Lugers were in service with Finnish police from the 30s through the 70s, by which time they were mostly used for practice. Src: www.theseus.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/163412/ON_Kalliomäki.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y
@wilhelm_iron2359
@wilhelm_iron2359 3 жыл бұрын
@@markusr353 I see that the normal P08 variant was used, but I don't see any reference to the long barreled LP08 model, unless I am missing something.
@MikeStubbsRace
@MikeStubbsRace 3 жыл бұрын
"Anyway, im getting ahead of myself here" - No Ian, its fine, you go on.
@keithallardice6139
@keithallardice6139 3 жыл бұрын
Love it Ian, absolutely fascinating!! Thanks for sharing...
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting. Looking forward to the Arisaka video, saw them in the civil war exhibition and wondered.
@Azguella
@Azguella 3 жыл бұрын
I think vankeinhoitolaitos translates to correctional facility or akin to treatment of prisoners facility/institute
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 3 жыл бұрын
More of a overseeing administration than any particular facility or institute.
@davidzanelli6847
@davidzanelli6847 3 жыл бұрын
Ian: "Some guy, up north in Finland" Me: "Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"
@KrankuSama
@KrankuSama 3 жыл бұрын
about 3 dudes tbh
@mursuhillo242
@mursuhillo242 3 жыл бұрын
@@KrankuSama nah, ya be forgetting the two others are a British tourist and an invading Russian red army cadet
@RAMPED
@RAMPED 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing content! Thanks for doing what you do.
@leadvendor
@leadvendor 3 жыл бұрын
I've got one with a Tikka barrel fitted would have been done when it was converted to 9mm... it has the Army SA stamped on it.
@eternality
@eternality 3 жыл бұрын
"Vainkeinhoitolaitos" Would more accurately be translated as "prisoner treatment institute" Reflecting the more rehabilitation focused view of prison vs US.
@onusgumboot5565
@onusgumboot5565 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a kit to put together a Luger. It wasn't coming out right. I didn't finnish it. I just tuned in to see what it was supposed to look like.
@HydraHolden
@HydraHolden 3 жыл бұрын
Ian, oh my gosh! I was just watching Brandon Herrera and your Varusteleka cosmoline ad popped up. Just came here to tell you that.
@sgthl
@sgthl 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my grandfather (army officer and veteran of the winter war) talking about they lugers the had in service. He didn´t like them at all. He also told me about how they made "lugers" out of lead for dry practice.
@fancyultrafresh3264
@fancyultrafresh3264 3 жыл бұрын
"Honey, what's wrong, you haven't finished your luger."
@tabletti8865
@tabletti8865 3 жыл бұрын
Finnished
@pn1018
@pn1018 3 жыл бұрын
The front post is probably from Lahti pistol. Common modification here in Finland.
@454FatJack
@454FatJack 2 жыл бұрын
Tikka barrel 9mm
@tomyorke3412
@tomyorke3412 3 жыл бұрын
That MG42 in the background is looking mighty fine.
@ristoalanko9281
@ristoalanko9281 3 жыл бұрын
The longer pistol has L35 Lahti front sight. The rear sight is painted and the slot is filed wider. A target gun of sorts.
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 3 жыл бұрын
I though that sight looked familiar! Good catch.
@garymoore8711
@garymoore8711 3 жыл бұрын
Ian just bubbles with historic interest. Finland is his second love after France.
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian .
@gringostarr69
@gringostarr69 3 жыл бұрын
My service pistol in FDF was F&N High Power. It had been used so much that it was like a rattlesnake. Thanks from the video Ian again. You are almost half-finnish by now 😎🇫🇮
@lukum55
@lukum55 3 жыл бұрын
Finnish Defence Forces: Buying cheap surplus weapons from the lowest bidder and still managing to humiliate superpowers since 1918.
@warshipsatin8764
@warshipsatin8764 3 жыл бұрын
russia should have another go
@Cowboy28074
@Cowboy28074 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always! We made the submarines in Finland. I guess you could say we bought them. But it was domestic. Just a small point. Love your vids as always.
@erwinjitsu_3706
@erwinjitsu_3706 3 жыл бұрын
Perkele! Kyllä on hieno ase! What a wonderful piece of gun and history!
@RaduB.
@RaduB. 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Nice background setting too. :-)
@kmech3rd
@kmech3rd 3 жыл бұрын
Dang... I was hoping for a silly April Fool's joke like "Guns of the Elbonian Very Special Forces" or "The 180 degree Krummlauf". A solid and informative video, though. 👍
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 3 жыл бұрын
For seriously bent barrels, check out one of the recent Demolition militia videos...
@dawoudabdulaziz9920
@dawoudabdulaziz9920 3 жыл бұрын
The camera taking its sweet time focusing.
@kurttank_1909
@kurttank_1909 3 жыл бұрын
Well, this video got interupted by that new Varusteleka commercial...which was hilarious.
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed that you guys didn't get the joke!
@Gunge-vq2ik
@Gunge-vq2ik 3 жыл бұрын
wow great vid thanks Ian!!!
@christianfritz6333
@christianfritz6333 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a sucker for a Luger at a reasonable price point.. Good luck finding one of those.
@LevitatingCups
@LevitatingCups 3 жыл бұрын
the Hi-Po has the best adjustment for sights, just do everything opposite of where your rounds end up. Also no safety, first round should be empty casing so you're sure not to accidentally shoot yourself. (it will jam but that's why you double rack).
@dongilleo9743
@dongilleo9743 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the practice was in the Finnish army concerning pistols? Were officers issued sidearms, or were officers allowed/encouraged to purchase and provide their own sidearm as part of being an officer? Perhaps it was a combination of both between 1939-45.
@454FatJack
@454FatJack 2 жыл бұрын
Issued some and more self purchased. Older had C-96 Mauser, Luger/Parabellum was official issue like Lahti -35. Many Army officers were reservist’s and took their personal guns to war. Like Civilguard member’s ,boys and old men stayed in guard , from 17/18Army,Navy Air force.. up some late 40’s
@user-ii5im7zm2t
@user-ii5im7zm2t 3 жыл бұрын
An April Fool's video so subtle, only true firearms experts can discern which part of this was fake.
@jaakkokeskinen5154
@jaakkokeskinen5154 3 жыл бұрын
My friends father had one of those Lugers as a service weapon back in 1990 when he was working in a Finnish prison.
@GigBound
@GigBound 3 жыл бұрын
Good morning Ian!
@badopinionsrighthere
@badopinionsrighthere 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the date, I expected this to be about the Elbonian contract
@mattmorrisson9607
@mattmorrisson9607 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I was really hoping for a video on the Municion L.M.P. 1889 Mk 2**
@Rafferty1968
@Rafferty1968 3 жыл бұрын
Only Ian could present against a backdrop includeing the 3 most popular mgs lol Ma Duece, Buzzsaw and M60.
@joshj.4051
@joshj.4051 3 жыл бұрын
If these guns could talk, it would be in finish. Thank goodness you can translate some of their story.
@johncashwell1024
@johncashwell1024 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@fieldkitchen
@fieldkitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Having gone to Finnish military gun sales in around 2005 . Tables covered in hundreds of Lugers. Many of those brought to Canada.
@marc_2690
@marc_2690 3 жыл бұрын
These lugers have been finished
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 3 жыл бұрын
Finns take the worst fighter of WW2 (Brewster Buffalo) make it into very successful fighter. Finns take worst rifle WW2 (M 1891/30) make it into very successful rifle. Finns take worst pistol of WW2 (M1895) perkele, get me a Luger.
@danielkochanicek6906
@danielkochanicek6906 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Ian is making this video inside lorry box, meanwhile is on the road to battle action :D
@comiketiger
@comiketiger 3 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting. I learn so much from these videos. And you do a fine job in detail and relevant facts. Love it! God bless all here.
@Squatch-sj3vg
@Squatch-sj3vg 3 жыл бұрын
Ian have you seen TheIdahoanShow video about the ZS-18?
@Wingatewasright
@Wingatewasright 3 жыл бұрын
I read the title of this as 'Fiendish' Lugers and got oddly excited and a bit confused.
@l.a.raustadt518
@l.a.raustadt518 3 жыл бұрын
Being German/Finnish would love an original 7.65 Luger! Good info on their history.
@Axemantitan
@Axemantitan 3 жыл бұрын
The Finnish movie about the Continuation War, "The Unknown Soldier", shows Finnish soldiers carrying Lugers: www.imfdb.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Soldier_(2017)
@masiina1984
@masiina1984 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Finland these pistols are called as Parabellum, exept the videogame generation refers those as Luger.
@JDelwynn
@JDelwynn 3 жыл бұрын
My dad called it a Luger, he had one in the '70s.
@amclips2995
@amclips2995 3 жыл бұрын
Then us Swedes copied the L35 and made the Swedish M/40 Luger. Easily recognized since they dont have some feautures like loaded chamber nub. And if you come across one with no markings, it could be a super rare "C-byrån" clandestine operations M/40.
@henrisivonen7404
@henrisivonen7404 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! I´ve had the privilege to shoot a Sk.Y marked (Finnish civil guard) M/23 in 7,65 and the ammo was also from the late 1920s. Surprisingly accurate gun but some hangfires and duds occured (not so surprising with that ammo)
@billylin5404
@billylin5404 3 жыл бұрын
From 12:10 onward, was Ian referring to a "double action Hi-Power"? I'd be very interested in seeing one of those if possible!
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 3 жыл бұрын
Presume he means the BDA9.
@billylin5404
@billylin5404 3 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalbadger Oh, that one? Maybe. That BDA is pretty much a forgotten weapon in its own right and has not even been featured in Forgotten Weapons yet. I had a feeling that had the people at FN designed the look of a slide of that pistol a little bit differently, it might have had much better reception from the market. And just as all the double-stack, double-action 1911’s didn’t affect the huge demand and popularity of the classic 1911, I don’t think the BDA would have cut too deep into the consumers’ desire to get an original Hi-Power either. Anyway, I’d love to see Ian talk about and take apart an FN BDA 9x19 one day!
@h2odragon1
@h2odragon1 3 жыл бұрын
The handles on these units appear to have an option of a shoulder stock! any indication there was ever a shoulder stock for Finland?
@johnstewart9745
@johnstewart9745 3 жыл бұрын
IAN I just watched a movie called POWDER RIVER, one person has a knee holster. Is there really such a holster. Thanks 👍🇬🇧
@33Luger
@33Luger 3 жыл бұрын
My Finnish Luger is my favorite. It was a commercial Luger so better sights and I love bottleneck pistol rounds so I like the 30Luger. Very accurate. I even got a case of Finnish ammunition for it. Wish I hadn't shot it up.
@33Luger
@33Luger 3 жыл бұрын
Mine is a Century import too. No markings other than that.
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