THE MACBOOK 16" - BIGGEST ISSUE

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[@TallyHoTech]

It’s the T2 chip. It controls the Audio. So you’re right. It’s hardware and they have been patching this T2 chip forever. Mine got fixed with the latest update so try another one. I have returned three. I won’t accept one until it’s perfect. I don’t want an experience like you had with your 15 inch. I made a video about what to check for when you buy a 16” laptop.

[@tredfxman]

The imacs dont have the T2 yet right?

[@TallyHoTech]

3DFX That’s right. :)

[@PedalScience]

Some audio companies have managed to keep their drivers updated to patch the issues (like RME - long thread about this on their forum). But yep, it is sad that apple have screwed over a lot of audio professionals that have coughed up extra money for apple products for many years, for their OS reliability / stability with DAW work.

[@viper8177]

@@tredfxman AFAIK they have all have had T2 chips now for some time. The MBP for four or five years. These audio issues are 100% related to the T2 chips which I believe are to do with encryption but unfortunately, there is a bug that causes the audio problems. It is hardware related. Not something you'd expect in a premium product.

[@Gorflaxsack]

Which video, you have a lot of MBP uploads.

[@JayfkProductions876]

JonSine: Best MacBook ever ever ever Also JonSine: I'm returning it 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@Richard-et8eu]

No issues on my 16 inch. Works just fine

[@Jonsine]

Thanks for letting me know. Maybe I just need to order another one and be lucky

[@oneandonly_lukas3984]

Lucky you

[@GagSmile]

I've the same exact issue on mine !

[@JakeAntelis]

Fixed on mine with the latest update.

[@Jonsine]

Unfortunately not for me

[@Yash-qs8iu]

That got fixed with the software update?

[@Yash-qs8iu]

I'll purchase this one after lockdown. So if yes, then cheers!!

[@jclark521]

Try going into Audio MIDI setup, select Audio Devices, change your sample rate format from either 44,100 Hz to 48,000 Hz, or from 48,000 back down to 44,100. I had the same issue and it worked for me. My problem is that my MacBook Pro 16" does not recognize MIDI. I am using a MOTU MTP AV usb MIDI interface which has always worked great, but it is not working here. Suggestions please!

[@NoahBuehler]

Apple seems to disappoint quite often my only apple product I ever bought a ipod nano has a completely garbage design. The Glas Brock about 2 weeks in. Software might be good but hardware is almost only designed to look appealing to the eye. Other people may have other opinions but I will never buy another apple product unless they change something big in their philosophy!

[@TamarinPamarin]

So did you downgrade your OsX to Mojave? There has been lot of problems with Catalina. The spacebar doesn't wobble more than basic scissor keyboards.

[@davidsoun8480]

TamarinPamarin heard the chipset in these don’t allow downgrades to Mojave from another youtube review who has the same issue.

[@TamarinPamarin]

@@davidsoun8480 Yep actually heard about it also. But anyway I haven't got these issue with my 16inch. But I've got also the speaker craclinkg issue which seems to be a driver related problem. Should be fixed soon. Now the fix is to reset coreaudiod from activity monitor.

[@TonyThomas10000]

Apple products went downhill since Steve Jobs died. PC is the only way to go. So many better products out there that are much less expensive.

[@BuriTechVids]

I don't think so. It depends what you are doing with PC. I'm a web developer and I have no other choice than Mac. Linux is 'fine' with need a lot of care. And I don't have a time for that. Windows is unusable for me, I need unix-based OS because of Docker, good Terminal experience, etc... That's the first reason. The second is: Find me notebook with that build quality what Apple does. With the same case build quality, with the same mic quality, with the same speaker quality, with the same OS integration quality. This computer is not overpriced for professionals who doesn't want to waste their time and wants computer which WORKS. But nobody is without issues. Okay, new MBP has issue with popping sound. But that is software issue that can be fixed and there is a planty of videos how to fix that popping sound (for example change sample rate on built-in output). And there's even 1 pros to Apple: They have their own hardware. When computer will be factured with an hardware issue, Apple have to make repair program because a lot of peeople will be complaining. For me, the high price is fine for me. MBP is earning that money for me. It's my every-day tool for my living. So I want computer with quality and no compromises.

[@elpilonvideo]

I don’t know why you guys keep buying Apple 🍎😥🤨 and still you’re recommending it 🤣🤣🤣

[@Dubbroo]

i dont understand why people use the default audio output for macbooks in music production while in the DAW, those speakers/audio drivers are not meant for music production. Stop crying and use your audio interface and put on your headphones. If you want to hear your music: export it and play it through your speakers.

[@nana-ld4cr]

Come on dude. If you pay that much money for a laptop it should NOT have those issues.

[@Gunner11763]

You literally just wanted to show everyone what gear you had at the start haha.

[@Jonsine]

hahahah you go me

[@mkdn]

Killer flex 💪 I’d do it too haha 😂

[@dianadesmond5126]

Its the middle eastern flex

[@snyggmikael]

Lol yea all the showcase of your stuff 99% of the video xD

[@diegoroman1402]

Jon do you recommend this laptop for music production now?

[@sazatug999]

stop complaining men to be honest you just want a excuse to not cook up? my old MacBook Pro had a problem on the screen for years, to me is way more important the work that I can do in this computers than the computer it self! like how are you gonna finish your album with all of this laptop changes? lol

[@tredfxman]

You are right. But the reason this guy made this video, is to have some controversial content! lol... 👍

[@Gunner11763]

He is never fucking happy.. He goes over the top about everything

[@brendanmccartney6701]

He’s a customer who bought the most expensive product in its class, he’s allowed to express both the good and the bad things about it, lol.

[@Matiazzak]

Hi, Jon! I was using Apple ekosystem for a long time and was completely an apple guy. BUT, because of my main work I had to switch to Win. I was preparing myself for a lot of frustration related with Win, but after a couple of weeks using it I’ve changed my mind. Over the last years this OS has been changed a lot. I’ve bought a laptop with 4K and it is great. You also have a lot of DAWs for Win, like Ableton, Cubase or Reaper. I think they are not worse then Logic at all. Generally using Win now is not frustrating. You could give yourself a try. Of course it’s only mine experiences so, you can write yours.) Good luck!

[@BabbarSHERR]

Its a software issue, as there is a workaround to stop it. Open Quicktime Player, Go to file> New audio recording. No need to record anything, just minimize and use your Mac

[@bastismusikbutze7450]

Utkarsh Babbar I’ll try it thanks

[@LauritsBrandt]

Didn't work for me tho... My MacBook Pro 16 inch is brand new btw

[@JulianDoe]

My Mackbook pro-2012 still rocks. (last words) lol

[@DJBURLAK]

Hi Jon , Apple still did not FIXED it ... its 10.15.3 and I personal have the same and more other problems... even I did completly brand new instalation. Erasing, Deleting the partition create new one. NO luck and they are many many people with this problems ( sound issiue , cracking sound ) . With internal soundcart you can not even listen music on 44khz .

[@tredfxman]

Get the imac instead, bigger screen. Much better priced! If your not producing music out of the studio, whats the reason for a laptop..? Its better to have a medium powerful 6 core imac, and the weakest 13 inch if u must have one for travel beside that, in my opinion.. But as always, youll get most bang for your buck on a PC. However if you wanna run Both OSX & Windows get an imac. (PC Hackintoshe's are to unstable & can be tricky to build/get right) 👍

[@VIPSOUNDS]

unfortunately !!!! a big company like Apple still made stupid mistakes

[@jlingo8977]

That’s really bad. I would return it as well.

[@WouterStudioHD]

It's that retarded T2 chip again. This issue has been going on for the past 1,5 years. Apple should get rid of that chip, it does more harm than it does good.

[@Agam_]

I didn’t notice this speaker issue on my 16 inch

[@jamesrobinson5450]

Goto the utilities. Midi. Change the bit rate too 48hz Fixed it on mine. It's a problem with 41hz.. If using logic you need goto SONG settings and change the songs bit rate to 48hz. Save that song in 48hz. All my clicking and popping gone

[@StianBerntsen]

Do not send it back yet. There is a setting that should fix it. Read this article. Just ordered one myself. www.cultofmac.com/670356/how-to-fix-16-inch-macbook-pro-clicking-speakers/

[@mvricks90]

i fkcn hate this computer man. It overheats so easy and 20+ Serums my production session is over and system overload..It cost me 3k, although its not the most expensive one it still is not good enough if you work daily as a producer. Every time I open the computer the LED-bar also start blinking disco style. I bet this stupid led-bar drains the already shitty battery by 20%

[@TonisPagkratis]

What musicians need to know before buying a new Mac. Louis Rossmann: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqG5f56dob2WbpY

[@jr6786]

Mine does this all the time. I have had it for a day. Using soft synths in logic makes it happen almost every time.

[@ahmetcangokceer]

Next time I think of not complaining about something, Ima go ahead and complain about it.

[@cristiancobac9482]

stop excusing the small problems issues when these things cost the highest premium on the planet They have no excuse to not make these devices perfect in every way, at those prices and those extra cash they get from you using their paid services and subscriptions....

[@nesafarm]

Mine got fixed with the latest update. It was apparent on 10.15.1, immediately after I bought it. What wasn’t fixed is the Finder refresh issue.

[@mariodario9033]

Mac Book so not PRO :)

[@manuelramos2933]

Hello Jon! I have the same problem in my MacBook touchbar 15 inch. I bought it on 2017, and for some strange reason I hear the same pop you are talking about. It is really annoying but my Mac works perfectly besides this. I use it for production and I can work with it fluently. Hopefully the new one you get comes out perfect!

[@eurodj101]

Got one of the off the shelves configs and seems to be working well form the start.....knock on wood....switching over form a 2018 MBP 15

[@davidm9931]

Hi Jon 3 months later, April2020, Now it works smoothly with the Daw? Do you run heavy projects without any problem? I also want to replace mine (mid 2012) and because of this video I was afraid, Do production and mixing now without problems?

[@LauritsBrandt]

This still hasn't fixed my problem. But to be honest, who uses the speakers when making music and mixing/mastering

[@Analogsoup]

My MacBook Pro 16” 32 GB ram 2 TB HD i9 no problems with recent update ... runs great with Universal audio Apollo 8 thunderbolt 3 👍

[@salahor315]

please i want to know what is wrong with the screen and the sound and also the touchbar since i want to buy it but i am afraid of these three problem

[@shlpmusic7568]

I had this problem not only with the internal speakers, but also with headphones and external speakers. Already returned it. :// PS please keep us updated about Your macbook :D

[@kokodigi]

Heres a workaround until they fix it -- kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpfYnWikfZhgqac

[@johntbd]

I have the clic issue. Really notice it during final cut work. GRrrrrr!

[@BuriTechVids]

FCP has the issue, and there are a lot of videos how to fix that popping sound. :)

[@bibik44]

I have top spec MacBook Pro 16 for my graphics work but for music I have top PC and it’s much much better! I know you are Logic user but maybe it’s time to review something if you have no luck with macs

[@tredfxman]

We have imac in family as well. And i cursed it time after time before. I do think the new Catalina OSX is the best yet though. Whats your biggest problem except that T2 chip on your Macbook for music production?

[@willicorona]

The noise has been gone after the new software update on my 16" Mac Book! Also the space bar seems normal on mine ... I'd try a new one!

[@willicorona]

but for sure this is not supposed to happen on a device that is so expensive!

[@Jonsine]

Thanks for letting me know. Will give another one a chance

[@wche9]

15.2 update solved it for all apps except Safari. I still here lots of popping there...

[@abplilbrandon]

This is fixed... Just purchased one today it was clicking as well in logic didn't realize there was an update. Updated it and the noise has stopped! I have a 2012 MacBook Pro with 2.9 ghz 16gb ram 1tb ssd but has a dual core intel.... which is why I updated however this better I'm not sure if it was 3000 dollars worth better though may be returning tomorrow.

[@Lbeezy410]

never mind still hear it returning tomorrow

[@adityaguntupalli7784]

I don't it's an issue with the T2 chip. I used to have the same issue at a studio I used to work at, as an audio engineer. It was a Mac Pro, the old cheese grater model. At times, when the clock source gets changed from optical to internal, I used to face this problem. It just has to do with the internal clock of the machine. Once, I switch back to the clock of my interface, it gets fixed. I guess,, there's a problem with the internal sound card in these new 16" MBP machines. I'm using the late 2019, 13" MBP as my daily driver, and I have no such issue, maybe it has nothing to do with the T2 chip. To check if it is the real issue, just connect your sound card but change thr clock source to internal and try playing the session. Much love brother :)

[@MrSkyTown]

Ya send it back, you make music, last thing you want is audio issues, big or small.

[@alex.muntean]

Lol dude, where have you been? Apple has acknowledged this and already fixed it in the new update. It’s a software issue. Don’t return it! 👌🏻 Mine is fixed.

[@Jonsine]

I know the Software update didn’t fix it for me that’s why I’m sending it back

[@alex.muntean]

Jon Sine 🤔 hmmm, strange.

[@user-bg4ny6zu6u]

If have the cash get the new Mac Pro basic model and over time upgrade it not through apple

[@kevinc6722]

Its a software issue. I found a solution for the popping. Go to "Utilities" then "Audio MIDI Setup" then change the "Format" from 44,100hz to 48,000hz. Problem solved.

[@Kakehan]

You’re solution solves this SOFTWARE ISSUE permanently! Thanks s lot, i hope this will shut up all those retarded people who are assuming that this would be a hardware issue not knowing the heart of the matter.

[@mk-1901]

There are different bitdepths we can choose from. 16, 24 or 32?

[@johntbd]

Thanks, I found some videos and will try a work around. This issue sounds like a fix in the making.

[@RicStigh]

Mine does the same as well. Still like it and still going to keep it.

Pardon me, but this is stupid. Get a rid of laptop which makes an audio pop sound? You are music maker, of course you are not using internal speakers to play the music, first of all, and as a video maker, I never either use them while video editing. So you exchanging a machine, which has just an audio pop, which is quite irrelevant to the overheating machine, which doesnt produce audio popping? Right? Lol

[@Jonsine]

This is just for one or two weeks will probably get the Same 16‘‘ and Hope it doesn’t have the Problem.

Jon Sine Well, i do have Macbook Pro 2015, which produces audio popping, also installed antipop (doesnt help that much), but i find this quite insensible to get rid of the machine for such a cause :)

[@schoebelski6602]

Hi Jon. 3 months later, end March2020, is there an update to your MBP16 saga? Did you get a new or repaired laptop? Click sounds still there? Or, which laptop do you use now? ...I am about to replace my old 2012 MBP15, which is falling apart, but not sure about Mac anymore. It seems their design decisions for the last models were very poor and not-pro...but the new MBP16 got better again, I am hearing. How is your latest status quo on the MBP16 ? Cheers.

[@Jonsine]

Got a new one and no more problems.

[@davidm9931]

@@Jonsine Now it works smoothly with the Daw? Do you run heavy projects without any problem? I also want to replace mine (mid 2012) and because of this video I was afraid, you can production and mixing now without problems and cpu problem?

[@killlnusstunts62]

subscribed 3 minutes ago and you already uploaded, GG

[@AmauryJacquot]

that software bug was fixed in the latest software release.

[@Jonsine]

Not for me and some other people unfortunately

[@AmauryJacquot]

@@Jonsine have you tried changing the sample frequency to 48k in audio midi setup ?

[@Jonsine]

Yes tried out everything also the Apple guys in the store.

[@ziruxiao6689]

It's already fixed with an update to 10.15.2

[@Jonsine]

I installed it as mentioned in the video and it’s unfortunately not fixed for me

[@ziruxiao6689]

@@JonsineI used the recovery mode to upgrade and the problem is gone

[@whoatemysandwich9476]

release this music dude can't wait!...

[@AwesomeKicks]

How is the trackpad and the friction? My first machine had that popping issue with the speakers so I returned it (the update did not fix it) and got a second one. But for some reason, the matte finish on the trackpad seems different. It seems to be less matte, less grainy and that has resulted in more friction on the fingers which is really annoying me. How is your experience with the finish? Does it seem to be perfect or do you experience friction? For me, the trackpad experience is absolutely not the best because of this.

[@emiel333]

Sounds like a problem with the built in speakers. Can Apple give you a replacement? So you can update it also and check if the popping sound still appears. It’s a bummer to hear this. I had high expectations about the MB Pro 16.

[@TheUtubeusername13]

The weird thing is that logic for me starting clicking every time I play/pause but only started after the update...

[@LauritsBrandt]

Then maybe revert to an older update if that's possible

[@BuriTechVids]

There are videos how to fix that popping sound. Try to change sampling rate on built-in output or try this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpfYnWikfZhgqac

[@mauroitaly7331]

if you connect headphones to this macbook, even with the max volume, do you have a low volume? that is, let me explain better, I had a 17 in 2011, and a few weeks ago I switched to 16, but if I have to compare the listening in headphones of the 17 and 16, there is no comparison, the volume with the 17 is much higher, is it a problem with my 16 or has something changed over the years with listening via headphone output? I await answers thanks

[@MannyWalks]

For a 3K € you expect all the best from a machine!!

[@MarcoPolux]

Today I am moving to Bitwig because of issues like this you are having now. Mac (Apple) is taking bad decisions and their LapTops are over expensive and not good enough as they used to. I love apple since years, but I just spend last year USD$5000.00 on the new MacBook Pro 15" and, is not that bad it works fine and have not had issues besides the Super heating problem that throttles and just a week ago, the dreaded keyboard started giving me the problem oof

[@mglohmeyer]

I almost bought a 16 inch Macbook Pro, but I didn't because it still has the T2 chip (and other issues). Apple still has a lot they need to fix before they deserve our business again. If I have a choice, I only use software that is cross platform so I'm not stuck with Apple (or Windows) issues. Neither is perfect. My main computer is still my Macbook Pro, but my main _work_ computer (the one that pays the bills) is a Windows desktop. Apple is nice when it works, but not something I have ever been willing to trust exclusively with my livelihood. Put a Windows Desktop in the studio and start making the transition away from Apple only software and hardware. You will be glad you did in the long run, even though it sucks in the short run. Your business is too important to let it be held hostage by a proprietary computer platform made by a company that has lost touch with their customers.

[@NotoriousMLC]

I thought I was the only one with the issue. But I found out when certain plugins are used it happens. For me it’s with Serum. It only happens once in a while though. Still a very bad issue and I hope they fix it.

[@kumaradabala3447]

I am getting stuttered sounds when I am listening to low-end music in my Macbook pro 16 inch, I reached out to apple but they are just ignoring it. What should I do?

[@Rgdonaire_07]

Mine has the same problem after the update. It is not announced officially that Appel fixed it. I think they’re probably accepting your laptop for return because they’re fed up with you at the Apple store. I contacted Apple support, told me engineers are still working on the solution via software update.

[@alanthomasgramont]

How many failures does Apple need before failure is the new normal? All I hear is how these failures are “not Apple like.” I’ve heard that for four years.

[@DirtyJokesFan]

Try some iMacs for your studio and home, Jon. I think you have better things to do than working around MacBook Pro issues constantly. Viel Glück!

[@axwellwow81]

I had a similar problem with my 15" and 16" Macbook Pro but in the beginning when I played audio. First it starts up extremely loud like a pop and then as if a limiter starts up and levels down immediately. On my first 15 inch Macbook Pro from 2017 the speaker broke down because of this. Apple had to replace the complete case.

[@michaelsimms4636]

It’s a well known software issue

[@Jonsine]

I updated unfortunately no change

[@brandonpierce]

Jon Sine Did you keep the MBP16, or did you return it?

[@jacksp8de]

Wow you have the worst luck with Apple laptops LOL

[@josephwestphal292]

Wann hast du dein Macbook gekauft? Es sollte seit der neusten Version von Catalina weg sein. Aber bei mir besteht das Problem auch noch.

[@CanInelli]

Joseph Westphal bei mir auch

[@volodymyrmazepa3254]

Same issue with the audio. Plus I have an issue with keyboard. “S” button doesn’t work after 4 weeks of using Mac. Going to return this.

[@pspexperts]

I don’t understand, this doesn’t even hinder your workflow. You are just being picky. I can’t believe you would rather use a Mac that thermal throttles over a Mac that makes a sound when you pause audio. Also don’t you use your monitors most of the time anyway?

[@tredfxman]

He should have gotten an imac, esp considering the prices now lol.. Oh well.. 👍

[@breezer1]

It is still annoying, specially for that price..

[@pspexperts]

Or the new Mac Pro

[@rich_reign_]

I have a 16” I haven’t noticed that but when I use the internal speakers there is an echo when I use logic

[@nana-ld4cr]

Try setting your project to 48 kbps instead of 44.1. Apple should fix this.. it's so annoying

[@rich_reign_]

@@nana-ld4cr It is terrible ... but u can still get used to it... it bothers me most explaining to people that the echo isnt really there and it is my brand new 4000 $ computer

[@rich_reign_]

@@nana-ld4cr I just tried 48 kbps didnt fix... thank you tho!

[@djvidual8288]

Do you really rely on your integrated speakers so much? Its anoying, I agree, but it sounds like a fixable problem through software.

[@tomknox7425]

when he edits videos he needs it i guess. doesnt really matter tho if i pay that much money for a piece of hardware it should work.

[@Ninja-pc3gd]

If you spend a lot of money that they called a PRO machine, I think you should complain a lot. They advertised this for PRO user and called the built-in speaker 'Studio Quality Speakers'

[@saardean4481]

If the windows are not bulletproof i dont see why you feel so safe just by closing them

[@zeus1117]

Screen ghosting is massive!! No way I am keeping this MBP

[@britishyankee961]

Hey, Jon. I just got the new 16 inch and I have noticed the same problem BUT, it only happens occasionally which leads me to think it is a software issue.

[@tredfxman]

Its the T2 Security Chip that everybody mentions above

[@pashafaith3639]

When you invest like 3k, it means u plan to keep this laptop at least for 3 years but lack of WiFi 6 makes MacBook Pro 16 to be outdated in a couple years down the road. The WiFi card is not upgradable either.

[@Rafa-fc9rh]

it IS a general issue many other youtubers have the same experience with macbook speakers same as you

[@Emcfree2084]

I might be missing something but why does a sound made when starting and stopping audio matter? Especially if only seen with the internal speakers. I would never do any work using the internal speakers

[@Jonsine]

every time I edit a video I don't know if the click is from the cut in the edit of the audio or caused by the speaker. very annoying for video editing

[@Emcfree2084]

@@Jonsine ah yes that makes sense, thanks for letting me know. The main issue I have with this machine is the fan noise, I would happily take less noise even at the cost of power in non GPU applications (eg Audio production) An ability to underclock or run in "audio/silent mode" would be a good step. For the start/stop noise they really need to sort that out, probably by updating the T2 chip.

[@olivermaas1]

Scheisse

[@dredhead6974]

I got it fixed with the last update. but still having some "noise" when copy a lot of data. Sounds like an old disc harddrive

[@DjEvolux]

Why not to consider a good Hackintosh?! 🤔

[@bigdevreynolds]

Im glad i did not buy it an waited now im not buying it

[@10314347]

Don't you have an alarm system in the studio?

[@Jonsine]

Sure but not for open windows 😜

[@vanpgeluid]

Put Some alarm contact at the Windows Its not so expensive to do this

[@bagrirecords2203]

Hey bro what's that intro song ????

[@TheChinobi23]

Not having that problem

[@DjFabi]

Versuch mal ein neues also Tausch ihn um. Bei meinem war das Problem zwar nicht (auch Vollausstattung) aber mein Kumpel hatte das Problem hat ihn umgetauscht und jetzt läuft es perfekt

[@DjFabi]

@Mid Night ja genau momentan hält er ungefähr schon 2 Wochen durch

[@itsamedjmario]

Merry Christmas Brotha 👊

[@hendriix843]

Give apple a second chance, is the best option they have today, ask for a replace and try again. And about the window, for sure was Santa, with a new speakers 😂😂

[@MackintoshBraun]

So you returned a new MacBook cause the Internal speakers pop... (looking at your $20k speakers...) 🤦

[@davidsoun8480]

MackintoshBraun so you would rather have him accept the flaw and be tied down to speakers? What if he wants to be mobile, work in a car or at someones house? Just because he has $20k speakers doesn’t mean he has to accept and live with these issues. Thats like saying you’re complaining about black mold but you live in a million dollar home. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@MrMissingReel]

Du lernst es einfach nicht....👋🏻

[@tredfxman]

He should have gotten an imac, am i right or am i right? (if want dual boot)

[@MrMissingReel]

@@tredfxman Or simply a PC.....it's not that fancy, I know ....but at least it works without that neverending hassle!

[@MaTTiiBeaTz]

Do iMacs have this same T2 chip sound popping issue or is it just MacBook pros????

[@MaTTiiBeaTz]

Really! So the regular 27” iMacs are excluded from this issue?

[@B1ankeys]

Jon..all apple cares about is the $$ why not a desktop mac if u need logic for the studio and pc laptop for travelling

[@Jonsine]

I know. It’s not as good as it used to be

[@B1ankeys]

@@Jonsine yeah really going in the opposite direction I think. In terms of usability, I rate them like half of my PC. very frustrating, especially if you rely on it for everyday..

[@criscavi19]

There is more issues on this mac: trackpad too big, and above all: connexions and adapters!

[@iwrwr]

Don't return it. Just replace it. Are the fans as annoying as on the 2018 version?

[@bigchoppabeats]

First...i know its lame, but i always wanted to do that :D

[@MrAsket7]

Jon, how long does the macbook battery life?

[@Jonsine]

A bit more than the previous generation. I’d say maybe 10-15% depending on what you do

[@MrAsket7]

@@Jonsine I don’t know what to expect from the Apple ... discussions.apple.com/thread/250887665