The Mace just got nerfed to the ground... and it's terrible

[@eternadash]

Minecraft Players When They Can't Insta-Kill A Mob That Isn't Meant To Be Killed At All: "Unusable Trash"

[@YimmEi0]

so true

[@CutWat]

Seriously, minecraft players whine about the smallest things, this legit balances the mace

[@lordender_kitty_official]

it is technically more usable now because it's more balanced, it's just kind of annoying, knowing that it was better at one point. it doesn't really matter honestly. the update will release and everyone will get over it in a couple weeks. although, they really should make the cooldown more like the axe. i've messed around with it myself and you almost never get to attack with full charge, which is kinda bs. might as well have just lowered the damage even more at that point.

[@manaspradhan7130]

Yea I think so mace is still so good like they don't still see how like it's enchants like the wind burst one was so powerful like warden can't even hit u and they just don't still appreciate that I mean earlier it was too broken like it wasn't similar to what a strong weapon side-effects but now it come with disadvantages which a very strong weapon should have

[@RealVglxd]

Unusable TRASH WHAT I can’t one shot the Warden anymore it’s USELESS, it’s USELESSSSSS 😅

[@LoonyMC]

I like this honestly, it's still really good in a couple of use cases but not so good that it removes every other melee weapon as a viable option. That seems like a justified nerf to me, the only surprising thing is that it took so long before we got it.

[@FortuneMCYT]

My thoughts exactly, it's still a viable option over swords especially if you're good at chaining.

[@Jorel-i1z]

fr I think tryhard ether forgot how to use it or is actually tryna make it look worse than it is cause if you offhand the wind charges you can chain the mace hits

[@thegeostormgd9830]

There’s almost no reason to use the weapon now unless you’re a really skilled player

[@LoonyMC]

@@thegeostormgd9830 so get gud ;)

[@s66s46]

Nah this is way to much of a nerf, especially the attack speed and damage nerf, now its very situational and just another trident

[@TurtleBoyX2]

I guess you can't fight 100 people anymore 😢

[@ValleyofLilacs]

I suspect it’s possible that like macepvp stuff might continue to be done in editions where the mace is what it originally was !!

[@IlllIIIIlllIIlllIIlll]

skill issue

[@Tryhard_]

We’ll see next video, might try it again with the new changes

[@Greatcelestialkaligo]

I think it being able to do that was too op

[@deltap6967]

Maybe you have to use elytra to one shot now

[@Fifty--Two]

The damage and enchantment nerfs are perfect I think but the cooldown prevents you from chaining good hits together because you so no damage. That was the most fun part of mace pvp, and probably the most skill-based and now its gone.

[@mrlambo3008]

I couldn’t agree more. When the mace initially came out with enchantments, me and some friends did mace pvp, and the pogoing was the best part. It was also the most viable strategy for mid combat. But you can’t even wind charge and land a full hit now! Like what is even the point of wind burst now??

[@Elfeen]

Yep, and the mace is totally useless in pvp, cuz of SHIELD, who needs a weapon which is hard to craft, which is hard to use and which deal just big damage which can be easily blocked by using shield in the right moment.

[@TMKM]

yes, this is exactly my opinion

[@GregorianMG]

If they keep the attack speed up, I wouldn't complain since chaining attack is the most fun part.

[@danielvieira5831]

​@@Elfeen mace should disable shields and the disable time increases the more blocks you fall

[@ImBudgie]

Assuming you're both wearing Prot 4 Netherite in these clips, 2 to 3 hearts a hit from 8 blocks of height is still really good, and you'll definitely be able to one tap people from higher up. The only thing I think needs a rework again is the swing speed. Having it swing slightly slower than the Axe makes sense (it's a giant heavy hammer), but it's too slow to the point where trying to use Wind Charges or Wind Burst III only gives you half of your attack damage back by the time you hit the ground. I'd personally make it a tiny bit faster. Overall, it feels way more balanced to me. I still think it's one of the best weapons in the game, and it's still worth taking the time to get one from the Trial Chambers. It's not perfect, but if it's what they decide to go with when the update's finally ready, I'll be cool with it.

[@Itz_Enter0551]

these changes are a good thing the mace was WAY to busted before to the point of not even needing an axe or sword

[@TH4T0NEBR0]

Everyone said nerf it Minecraft nerfed it Now Everyone is mad WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

[@spyke5537]

exactly

[@Samstercraft77]

?

[@s66s46]

Nobody wanted to nerd it this much

[@s66s46]

​@@spyke5537nobody asked to nerf it this much

[@sarwatkamal1426]

@@s66s46every one asked to nerf it

[@ocularsurfacewatermelon689]

The problem is that it will never do the max amount of damage due to how the attack speed just doesn’t line up with how long you fall with wind burst. Your hits never seem to fully reload

[@aqtxz]

I Suppose you could use slowfalling but that's a pain in the ass

[@Xenek.]

​@@aqtxzand it's not really gonna kill anyone when you fall ror 27 minutes

[@Hectic28]

shifting before throwing windcharge will send you higher then normal and he didn't shifted in video so it potentially could be able to fully reload a hit after wind charge

[@Vetrical]

​@@aqtxz Slow fall blocks smash attacks

[@ocularsurfacewatermelon689]

@@Hectic28 That is true yeah. I don't think people realize that shifting is meta with wind charges

[@addymydoggo]

i think its okay it just needs a higherattack speed so you can fully hit when your falling down with the wind charge

[@vijayshukla4585]

I think its actually logical because its a big hammer and how fast can you swing a hammer?

[@addymydoggo]

@@vijayshukla4585 yeah i think its actuallt logic that theres a dragon in the game. jk it does kinda make sence, maby make the wind burst more powerfull

[@dobeikwan3684]

@@vijayshukla4585steve can hold a full inventory of shulker boxes which all have stacks of gold blocks what stops bro from holding a hammer

[@donutstudios6353]

The only thing that should be changed now is the cooldown- because now it doesn't feel fun to use to just essentially wait. And in a real PvP fight, it won't really be that good because while you are using your mace the enemy will be whipping out their sword and keep ending your chain it is not very viable now.

[@klopsmmm]

Mojang: makes the mace Players: it's too OP!!!!! Mojang: nerfs it Players: it's useless

[@towers4506]

quick breeze charge tip: hold crouch and time a jump to get up to 11 blocks of height from one charge!

[@NokoTheTaco]

They should have called the Breach enchantment Intensity. That way, we have both Density and Intensity for Mace enchantments.

[@IronstarkGD]

I think the only thing I would change would be the cooldown. I think an axe cooldown would be great, because right now is really slow

[@yoiboiz1462]

it's a weapon crafted with something called the heavy core, I believe something like that should be slow af. if anything; they should revert most of the other changes to make the mace a slow, horrifying weapon that offers a fresh experience

[@yoiboiz1462]

oh and also buff the windburst enchantment's air blast so you can keep chaining hits

[@enn1924]

​@@yoiboiz1462both of your comments contradict eachother lol

[@yoiboiz1462]

@@enn1924 wdym? I'm saying that they should revert the damage nerfs to the mace, while keeping the slow attack speed. I also said that they should buff the wind explosion from the windburst enchantment, making it launch you much farther up. This gives you more time for the mace to recharge without buffing the speed.

[@yoiboiz1462]

You'll still be able to chain hits while the mace is slow

[@afriendlyfox]

I think that if some servers add a mace-based gamemode, it will probably be using the old version, since that was significantly more fun

[@SecureHandle]

Nah I think new version would probably be similar in fun since you don’t die instantly lol

[@groshomme3528]

@@SecureHandle its annoying that its not fully charged when u bounce with a wind charge

[@real_mushroom_hunter]

people when they actually have to somewhat use skills instead of just unleashing the entire power of the cosmos after jumping once:

[@ejfiewfeuihefwiuwe]

The situations where it would be useful in pvp now are almost none because you have to fall from an extremely telegraphed height Minecraft pvp is OP in general this is just much worse than a netherite sword or axe

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

​@@ejfiewfeuihefwiuweBro has no patience, no wonder why Mojang doesnt gaf about the pvp community, they only want instakillers

[@ItsNothingRichy]

​​@@ejfiewfeuihefwiuwenah that's objectively wrong. mace's rn are the best STARTERS for a pvp fight. simple method, u start with a heavy mace swing and deal any additional dmg with ur sword or axe. you have to be creative when fighting actual GOOD players. simply saying "boohoo it's not competing with axes anymore!" when mojang already said they know how broken axes are and are still trying to rework those too is pretty entitled and narrow minded ngl. adding MORE broken stuff isn't going to actually fix anything.

[@moussrider5842]

Thankfully you dont need full attack reload to do a smash attack, its still very good as an offensive heavy hitter weapon however using it without trying to do smash attacks is just dumb.

[@InanamGames]

They should buff the attack speed to 0.7 and revive wind burst, and with that you get the perfect mace, i know because i tested it with commands. Also there's still the pearl + wind charge thing, that's a good punish if you trap your enemy

[@unityimasuen6615]

Agree

[@BlockMainaic]

agreed

[@yoiboiz1462]

oooo I was just thinking about that man, and hear me out. what if an unenchanted mace had .6 speed, but the windburst enchant would have .9 attack speed. I also think that to combat the lower speed heavily nerfing the windburst enchant, the enchant's effect should be amped up my lil headcannon is that HEAVY CORE is heavy not just because of the material, but because there were insane wind pump mechanics that held in such highly dense air pre-echantment? and that the windburst enchant made a way to use those mechanics to release all that air on impact (quickly refilling on windup).

[@yoiboiz1462]

this could also explain how density works. I mean the whole theme of the trial chambers is pretty steampunk/mechanical, so who's to say that the heavy core isn't the peak of their air based engineering? a more mystical version is the mechanisms themselves (in terms of how it would suck in/release the air) are magical, and that enchantments could be some sort of command key for those mechanics idk (also buff base damage back to 7; and have it be +4 for 4 blocks, +3 for the 3 blocks after, and all following blocks would be +2)

[@InanamGames]

@@yoiboiz1462 mmm... i think that's a good idea... but i don't think that should work that way, but rather the other way around: what if the mace had 1.2 atk spe but each level of density took away 0.1 atk spe? the density 5 mace would have 0.7 atk spe, but would do way more damage and would still be fast enough to do good combos, after all, the mace isn't made to be a pursuit weapon but rather a powerful set up weapon

[@hudsoncooper8913]

Tryhard: The mace is now terrible. then he immediately does 3 hearts of damage to full prot 4 netherite player in a single hit.

[@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo]

Sheesh so the Mace is still strong but it’s no longer overpowered. Still I would keep it as a “Counter Garden” The counter garden is something from TF2.(Look up how to Counter Trollider to see an example. It’s Basically using the Marekt Gardener to Stop an enemy from bombing in with the same weapon)

[@zwymov]

What they need to do is fix the attack speed, so you can actually full charge combo. It pisses me off so much that you have to hit before it's fully charged while falling

[@itsfrankie757]

Oh noooo they nerfed the weapon that kills everything in one shot and now it no longer kills everything in one shot oh nooo why would they do this

[@CaIIMeWhenever]

I hate the fact that they added cooldown in minecraft 1.9 so the game is not just smash a button, but years later they nerf the mace so hard that now you have to hit with a half of the cooldown completed to time it with the burst????? Wtf mojang

[@Randomcommentator012]

Me: *tries to use a mace* The skeleton: i will now appear with my private army to interrupt your fun, L noob

[@galaxolotl0423]

Are you using density 5 or breach 4 in the pvp scenario? I’m pretty sure that density is a bit better in general, I got a full netherite zombie and tested with both enchants, and density did more damage.

[@Tryhard_]

I used density for the mobs and breach for pvp, apparently breach is better for pvp because it ignores armor protection

[@levigersonorsomething2074]

did u try full prot zb netherite?

[@levigersonorsomething2074]

galaxo?

[@galaxolotl0423]

@@levigersonorsomething2074 prot 4? Yes

[@galaxolotl0423]

@Tryhard_ BIG NEWS, the wind burst enchantment just got buffed like crazy, and the mace attack speed has been changed to 0.6 instead of 0.5. Because of the wind burst buff, with wind burst 3, you can now get fully powered hits again! You can now two-shot iron golems and five-shot wardens!

[@Benw8888]

The cooldown makes it so it doesnt recharge when using wind charges now, or at least that's how it seems. Probably a big factor in its low damage.

[@30.6.8]

Minecraft players when an item requires skill to use :

[@Astro_Acee]

Bedrock players: *i don’t have such weaknesses*

[@user.24_osu]

Yea, right. Bedrock players are FORCED to play on the newest version unless your playing on a cracked version (apk)

[@VerySkilledGamer]

i personally think that its good but in reverse, the mace should reward you more for landing hits from higher up, i think the first 3 blocks should give 2 dmg each, the next 5 gives 3, and the rest give 3.5

[@wasquash]

revive wind blast enchant to work on entities and increase the insanely slow attack speed

[@LuisFernandoRecio]

I think they should buff the mace so the atack speed is faster and they should make it so that you can combine Breach with Density but like they lower breach levels so that it only reaches level 2 and that is it.

[@xDonuutCZ]

Mojang finally added something good and now they are nerfing it bro like wtf

[@Kiwyko]

I think from a game design perspective it's really frustrating to see all the mace nerfs/changes so that it could be "more balanced" but I think it was fine even before the *previous previous* nerf. The way to obtain the mace was already hard because you are trying to RNG out of a bunch of trial chambers to get the mace head. Alright cool, so you go through all of that and your reward is... just a sluggish weapon that should do high damage. So you get the mace but I think a couple of drawbacks are: A. There really isn't a practical use for it. Most mobs in the game aren't really warranting the use for the amount of damage the mace puts out and even then the mobs you would use them on aren't exactly the toughest. The wither isn't exactly the hardest boss in Java edition neither does it make it easier to grind through withers for beacons(even with riptide as shown in the video you could already kill the wither with just a sword/bow and armor or other unconventional methods) so this makes it good for bedrock players. The same could be said for the ender dragon while the warden "is not supposed to be killed" B. It doesn't fell as satisfying to hit with. Sure the main dopamine factor comes from the fact that it is hard to obtain and there have been many cases of just annihilating mobs but when you make it slow to swing, requires a certain amount of height to get to that point, and make the DPS of the weapon okay then why not just use a sword or axe at that point which you were already using before you got the weapon. It's more of a jank weapon while holding better in a PVP environment because of the height advantage/damage factor. I get that it's supposed to be slower because it deals more damage but did they really need to make it swing slower than an axe? C. The fact that the enchantments had to be separated. Just why? To nerf the damage where its either a player or less height granted. There arent that many armored mobs I just don't see why you can't just add a damage cap to players if you really wanted to do that. Annoying. Sorry if this was long but I just get mad since the mace goes from fun to... why?

[@lillyofthegalley]

"just basic stuff" *full enchanted netherite armor, 64 stack of enchanted golden apples, totems of undying*

[@Llamu]

How the fuck is the attack speed gonna matter with the mace lmao

[@caelanwatson9812]

honestly needed these changes. It's still a good weapon, but other weapons can now possibly compete with it, making the game more balanced

[@melvyncardenas6493]

Dudes mad they can’t do one morbillion dmg and one shot the warden

[@invis_potion]

Still op for surprise attacks, screw traps when you can insta pop a totem on a full prot 4 netherite player

[@marcoashley8681]

A weapon that can constantly poke your enemies 90% of the time is 1000 times better than one that can only nuke them 10% of the time

[@godversesans5152]

"why would we make a weapon that can already one shot the enderdragon? Why not?" Looks like mojang went back on that meanlity

[@Glitchboy_exe]

I think the nerf was good as chaining a person with it that can 1 shot/pop someone is would change games like axe, uhc, etc. the change was for the better and makes it more of a fight and not like cpvp where you pop every hit(1-2 crystals)

[@xX_epic_gamer_Xx]

3:00 bro I can put wind charges in the off hand and the mace on the main hand so the first swing is a full blow

[@MMRgDm-ps9wr]

Its still useful for some scenario Like #New MLG method #Alternative Weapon (Just in Case The sword/Axe are low) #Armor counter #For fun :D #Surprise attack

[@bloodreptil]

My biggest problem with the nerfs is attack speed. For me, it killed the weapon.

[@Lucas_Santos482]

meteor client: everything in perfect balance

[@thealientree3821]

Imagine this weapon actually having a hard cap for how much damage it could do.

[@UsManosMAC]

The nerfs to the mace make it so it's mainly usable while offhanding windcharges

[@TheobaldTheBird]

Have you tested how well it scales with strength 2? I feel like that determines its viability as an endgame weapon the most

[@lool8421]

i'd raise the attack speed to 0.8 so you can actually keep jumping with it at full charge but it really is trying to just be a weapon that's very position-based

[@avm36]

they should nerf crystals anchors and totems too

[@Schmackofatzig]

am i the only one who did not want to nerve it before the nerve happened?

[@madelynscorner]

I didnt really mind eithwr way but i think it's probably a good thing that it got nwrfed or at least that you can't out breadh and density on at the sane time

[@bupstertarvin6468]

I feel it would be better if they added the combat snapshot mechanics, and gave it a decreased reach, so it would reward risky precise hits with big damage.

[@GameJam230]

Imo, I'd be fine if the mace was closer to what it was before ONLY IF they ensure the drawbacks of the mace can't be easily ignored. The problem is this; the mace is and always was described by Mojang as a high risk, high reward weapon. If you miss your shot, you take tons of fall damage that is correlated with hoe much damage you would have DEALT. The Density enchantment is a straight buff to the damage you deal, however, with no correlating damage taken increase. You may think that's fine, because why would an enchantment have significant drawbacks, right? Well I'll tell you right now that MULTIPLE existing enchantments have drawbacks to them, even if minor. Ones like Thorns and Soul Speed use your durability faster, mending can't stack with infinity, silk touch makes it so the tool can't get the normal drops and can't be stacked with fortune, fortune 3 on a shovel makes it impossible to get gravel from mining gravel, fire aspect enables mobs to set you on fire, knockback isn't very good against ranged mobs, and riptide makes it so you can no longer throw the trident unless wet, and it will always launch you. They may be minor, yes, but drawbacks are not new to the idea of enchantments. So, if the mace is going to become more "dense", which causes you to deal more damage, a player should reasonably TAKE more damage as well. Let's face it- everyone who will ever use this in regular combat will already be using feather falling, full prot 4, and jump booth 2 wouldn't hurt for an extra heart of fall damage reduction too. A normally fatal 23.5 block fall would only deal a single heart of damage on a failed hit, but with the old mace, would be enough to insta-kill a player with the strongest armor currently obtainable and THEN some. If you want to pull of risky plays with high rewards, I think you should be subject to high consequences in failing, but if you want to use it like a regular weapon with less risky plays, you will still see its use as a viable weapon, just not completely broken. If density increases damage by half a heart per block, it should increase your fall damage by at LEAST a quarter of a heart per block too. I don't like the mace being super overpowered, but I think it makes for some flashy and fun looking fights that the game has never seen before, so we need to find a balance between risk and reward, since that is literally the entire purpose of the weapon and how it was marketed.

[@plushiefactory9742]

tbh now that it's not super op anymore it's better because it be more fun in normal minecraft and it's already a pretty fun looking weapon with the bouncing and stuff so it shows that minecraft is doing good with the updates things need nerfs sometimes and sometimes the nerfs are good

[@Vanyalka]

3 hearts(or 6 hp) in full protection 4 armor = 90 clear dmg, thaats still a masive dps

[@iamwynoo]

lets not forget that the mace is crafted from midgame dungeon resources and it is somehow better than the late game netherite sword

[@donutstudios6353]

also heres a tip put wind charge in offhand it makes a huge difference

[@Mrjulioexdi]

Tip: You can activate the wind burst from 1.5 blocks high.

[@youraveragekaleb]

hitting someone with a slowness potion and then using this sounds kind of powerful

[@cytroy]

Lemme just pull put basic stuff *proceeds to pull out fully enchanted end game gear*

[@Brei.]

I think if they just make the wind burst launch you a bit higher, it would make it much better.

[@OzymandiasMC]

i think they need to make it so that the attack speed is quicker but thats about it

[@GrayZ-GrayZ]

They nerfed it twice, and it still does over half the withers health.

[@WeIt_Yang]

That moment when minecraft maces the mace.

[@tda8184]

I think they should make it so you can hit non living enteties again, its a really fun mechanic

[@crimsonamogsus7351]

They FINALY nerfed this overpowered game breaker! This item really has no reason to exist

[@GabeSaber]

I feel like this is a good change, it balances it way more

[@divit5567]

I guess a good way to balance it would be to make it rarer, like craftable only from the drop of the warden or something. The old mace was so good and unique

[@Batmaniggga]

It's already the rarest item and make it rarer to be op? The best way to nerf is to literally just nerf

[@justalpaca4943]

So a nolife that plays 16h a day could find all the aces on the map and be unbeatable? Perfect nerf for an OP item: make it available only to a few people.

[@fireking6308]

As much as I like the idea of combining more stuff from different structures to make new stuff, the people above me share my opinion on your "nerf"

[@arda6931]

4:26 major pause 💀💀💀

[@trustableguy6303]

dunno why they would do this. i dont have reason to get the weapon anymore, because if i wanted a strong but slow weapon i'd use a sharp 5 axe. MAYBE for the enchantments but like yea. . .

[@vampishwheat9432]

Try offhand wind charges and hold the mace in your other hand that way the atack charge thing is at max when u attack

[@dekokiri9961]

It's used like a Railgun in Ultrakill now

[@potinho12]

in bedrock, without the cooldown, its going to be insane!

[@donutstudios6353]

at least it got buffed so you can at least have the cooldown fully charge before you land on them

[@wasquash]

I DONT GAF THAT ITS NOT OP ANYMORE I WANTED THE FUN WIND CHARGE TECH THAT DOESNT WORK ANYMORE

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

Yes it does

[@Digital_Rust]

The attack speed is what doesn't make sense to me. You can't chain full attacks with the wind burst enchantment. Atleast you should be able to do that because it was cool.

[@pepelecrack5428]

i feel like off handing wind charges might be more worth it so that you get that full charged attack

[@user-yw3ic8qc1h]

well at least it's not _that_ ridiculous, which might be fair

[@Uranium-2]

it make sense that the mace is slow when attack because it a chuck of metal on a stick

[@theemeraldninja5038]

So now you need wind charges and enchantments for the mace to be remotely usable. I know it needed a nerf but this is overkill

[@the3dluxe53]

Tbh, I think the damage is perfect now. I assume that with the nerfed damage jumping hits are about the same as the normal damage before so it works out. I think the speed nerf is overdoing it though.

[@aceshadowknight7004]

Honestly I think its just going to become an irrelevant weapon for pvp just like the trident. I mean you see almost no one use the trident as a main weapon in combat now. The nerf will encourage people to stay with sword because of its strange style, how hard it is to even get the mace, and now the nerf. Unless you are willing to put lots of time in to actually master this weapon it just doesnt seem like a viable option.

[@lazarpetrovic1671]

Mace isnt even that hard to get and it will be used as it compliments the sword pretty well, also tridents in pvp are pretty good too, their longer reach allows you to shut down combos quickly

[@geothepoly]

I think it's fine, it's supposed to be it's own niche, but I still think they nerfed the speed a little too much. I think something in between the old and current speed would be better.

[@obj_obj]

They shouldn't have nerfed the attack speed tbh

[@Teacup44]

minecraft tries not to make an alternate weapon that ends up useless challenge

[@whateverIwasthinkingatthetime]

Mfw people call a weapon that can kill any mob or player instantly useless:

[@seb_the_cat]

Honestly, when the mace first came out, I hated it because it was so OP. If you get the mace, Minecraft isnt really as fun anymore because you can just 1 shot anything and everything, and theres no challenge, so im glad they decided to tone it down a bit.

[@Batmaniggga]

Bro that shit took me 4 hours nonstop and now it's significantly worse

[@Batmaniggga]

Thank goodness for the nerf since I can literally end every fight by just doing air combo It sucks up all the fun for both

[@Batmaniggga]

Still the best weapon IMO since a netherite sword with strength can't do that much dps against netherite protection

[@Vetrical]

​​@@Batmanigggaswords can kill in 6 crits...

[@MMRgDm-ps9wr]

​@@VetricalMace can kill Full netherite armor player With one attack from 9 block heights (even when its Nerfed) (If i not mistaken)

[@MMRgDm-ps9wr]

​@@BatmanigggaSo do yiu like the Nerf or not?

[@TMKM]

i think they should increase the attack speed

[@chrisandwichshop]

Oh no, the mace is only mildly overpowered now...

[@auspiciouscheese]

offhand the windcharges, your mace resets when you swap. this can prob 2x your damage

[@Iseenomacros]

No weapon can beat Crystal PvP 🗣️🗣️

[@heckerhecker8246]

0:15 you just proved why the nerf was good.

[@Sovandefaret]

Still waiting for old mace vs crystal pvp tho!

[@henryfoabdarbangldfut]

the low cooldown speed makes sense but they should buff windburst to make up for it, the damage is still pretry broken tho lol

[@IsmaelCordier]

the attack damage nerf is actually a good nerf, it's more of a situational weapon now

[@s66s46]

Which is boring and useless, like the trident

[@sarwatkamal1426]

⁠@@s66s46no it’s not. Then everyone will just use it in normal PvP and just crit them out

[@lazarpetrovic1671]

​@@s66s46trident has more reach than a sword, perfect for shutting down combos

[@zwatotem]

As others montioned, the cooldown is too long to even chain. If they wanted to nerf chaining, I guess they did it, but then the existence of wind burst enchantment is questionable, at least for pvp*. But in the process they also made it super confusing to use the wind charge-mace combo. As far as I can infer from the video, even the initial attacks hit before the weapon is fully loaded, so it loads longer than the wind charge hop. So to land a fully charged hit, you'd need to offhand the wind charge, which I would say is confusing at best. What is left to test, I'd say, is: First, checking the utility of mace as a ground weapon, with breach. How much sense does it make to run back and charge it against different tiers of armor with different tiers of breach. Second, check how effective it actually is in elytra divebombing. I suppose with this change it only makes the mace more viable to use with elytra than without it, contrary to their attemts at preventing it. Third, can you reliably use the mace as a counter to fleeing with elytra? Chasing someone with elytra and landing one hit a minute won't kill anyone. But if that hit is lethal - you have better chances. *In pve you could defend that scattering your enemies around is helping you get more breathing room; personally I think it just makes it harder, as you typically want all enemies on one side, and kill them in a queue, but wind burst scatters them around you

[@zwatotem]

In summary I think they should still leave it as the slowest weapon, just fast enough to synergize well with wind charge and wind burst.

[@Ep13_]

Besides the attack speed these nerfs were necessary

[@ebk0075]

When i saw mace got nerfed right away i knew try hard woulve been pissed af les doxx microsoft

[@IntelEdits]

the mace is COOKED

[@Wolf-oc6tx]

While I feel like it might have been over nerfed it certainly needed nerfing given that its still able to one shot.

[@ELROHANIUS]

tbh the mace was pretty countarable if you could do it right and now they nerfed that shit back to the coal mines, it really needs a buff now