The Magic Triangle | Why You MUST Shallow The Club

[@stevenroberts9380]

That triangle has always been a must in my swing for many years and not just a drill for me but an important check point in my swing with only minor differences. I encourage people to take your advise

[@CogornoGolf]

👊 Thanks for watching, Steven!

[@integrito3323]

This must be one of the greatest videos ever in golf! If not in the whole sport, certainly on shallowing the club! 5:48 Brilliant question, Eric! Why!....6:20 Love the attitude with which you start walking behind the dude here! No1. A swing path which is gently tracking from the inside! 7:08 No2. Influence on the attack angle (more shallow angle of attack) thereby impacting 8:48 ball speed, spin, stability and distance. "Good things, right"! And reason No.3 8:50 How our body (arms, hips, legs, shoulder tilt) angles react to the shaft angle - Absolutely Brilliant! 11:33 and A++ Job of explaining why! I am clearly a WHY person! It is very challenging for one to wrap one's head around doing something when one does not understand why! I am so very pleased for your explanation, but oh so very disappointed that it has taken me 43 years to understand this and the importance of fully committing to implementing this in my swing! I have played off 6! Can you imaging how much better a player I might have been, had this explanation been known to me sooner! I am currently a pretty strong 10, because I took way too much concentration and the attending headaches to play and enjoy the game, if I tried to go lower swinging the club the way I was swinging itn prior to yesterday! The best video out, Eric! The best! Hope it gets more views! I will update in due course on my progress! Sorry for the voluminous comment! Thanks again, Eric!

[@CogornoGolf]

Very much appreciate the kind words and support! I am a WHY person as well :) It was funny to think all this time later and all of the videos on "shallowing" we have done we never until this point took a deep dive into WHY its important and what functions it serves :)

[@integrito3323]

@@CogornoGolf Agree wholeheartedly with your reply! But at least you have done it! And I am sure that many in your channel community and outside of it (i.e. those who stumble upon this post) will be very grateful! I for one will share it! Cheers! As we say in the U.K. "You're as star"!

[@scottnarasaki6236]

The tipping drill really helped me understand and feel what i need to do to shallow the club. It has increased my consistency and power. Thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

You got it Scott!

[@RiseUp1000]

Excellent golf instruction. Master class on shallowing the club ... what it is, why it’s important, and how to do it. Impossible for anyone to watch this video and not know all about this critical element to the golf swing. Thanks for sharing.

[@CogornoGolf]

:) Thank you!

[@jayogden773]

That was one of the BEST golf videos I've ever seen! Loved it!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that, Jay! John is great!

[@johnraudabaugh726]

Love this. I am one that has been trying to slow the body and lower the arms and hands to shallow the club and typically end up with it steep. I’d love to see the finish of the swing after this move.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, John!

[@stumpjumper1dc]

I just happen to be working on this same thing. I kind of figured it out on my own. Great to see two pros confirming what I'm working on!

[@CogornoGolf]

:) Thank you for watching, David!

[@bigk9598]

Thank you to yourself and John. You have given me the piece to put into my swing to connect with the impact position videos you released a month or so back. It's all starting to come together now.😀

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that my friend!

[@rhodwilliams8110]

E - this was gold. I use The Hanger and it forces the same effect. Just a vault of good stuff. Thx man!

[@CogornoGolf]

Our pleasure Rhod! Thanks for watching!

[@johnherman3261]

Love this video. I believe that shallowing the club is one of the hardest things to do. It’s all muscle memory and the shallowing is a micro second in the down swing. Great,great drill. You’re the best buddy.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, John! Appreciate the support!

[@steveanderson5802]

Eric, great video explanation of why and how to shallow the club. I would like to see the "next step" though; from shallow to impact and release. I know it's body driven. But easier said than done for me.

[@denisprieur7944]

Éric, i always had trouble with this shallowing club, i was to much thinking is the process, and it was ruining everything, but the Magic Triangle, oh man, this is the biggest AH AH moment on my golfing life! This move is fantastic! I don't even have to think of that shallowing shit, i does it automaticaly! I hit the ball very crisp, lower, longer, it's really light in darkness for me! Thank you both of you!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that, Denis! That's great! Keep it going!

[@stephenmcwilliams7861]

Massively important video. Ties so many important of your other videos together That video is the key that unlocks so many of your other videos and dispels so many factors that seem intuitive i.e. pulling the club down. If I understood correctly, the arms are brought to the hitting area by rotation of the trunk of your body. Perhaps this thought woulds be helpful - assuming a correct backswing at the top if your club is pointed at 11am then to shallow the club you point the club at say 10am. For me the clock face is understood easily. I also like the connection between coming up and out of a shot tied directly to the shallowing of the club and that up and out of a shot is actually an athletic reaction essentially protecting your wrist from damage. Very important to the senior golfer (me). Important collaboration between two very knowledgeable instructors. Thanks so much!!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate ya, Stephen! You are spot on!

[@nicovanwayenburg4880]

Again you struck me with a clear and very helpfull instruction. Every time I learn something from you. Thank you for that!

[@CogornoGolf]

Love to hear that, Nico! Appreciate you being here with us!

[@rickstevens9628]

Magic Triangle. This also insures that elbow leads that down rather than the elbow pointing behind you. Great instruction. Thank you.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it, Rick!

[@rickstevens9628]

@@CogornoGolf Eric, I only recently, like yesterday, realized rotational speed. I've been golfing a long time, and never really felt power from rotation. What a difference? It resulted from feeling me rotating my right side bend as the power source, and it resulted in solid shots, good direction, and consistency. That rotation was paired with and aided by bracing that left side. Wow. Just wow. But, I've been here before with things I've thought were the secret, but maybe this is the real deal. I think too that thoughts like the magic triangle will turn your focus from arms and hands as power to the upper body opening (with side bend) and rotating back to the ball. Thank you as always for your excellent instruction.

[@e.g.flores2819]

Great lesson, I learned a lot, i always struggled with cupping and coming down to steep, always hurting my wrist and left thumb. Thanks for the lesson.

[@CogornoGolf]

You got it!

[@will_reischmann]

Take a shot every time Eric loves it

[@CogornoGolf]

Lol perfect

[@Chad17022]

Excellent, great explanation and demonstration of shallowing the swing.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Chad!

[@xiwawaxu]

Super useful! Fixed all my problems!

[@CogornoGolf]

Excellent!

[@kentsiam]

Thank you Eric/John for the video. Great contents... I'm just concerned one thing about this teaching... when John later mentioned to use the chest, the core and rib cages as an engine to initiate the move (around @19:00 down)... Shouldn't the lower body and the hips initiate the move... then when the hips move everything else passively turns. And the shaft should automatically shallow due to the gravity (now at that point use the wrists to control not to let the shaft go too shallow). If I force myself to initiate the move with my chest/core/shoulders first, I know my lower body will never catch up.... Or what I'm missing here...

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey KK! In reality they are ALL involved. The lower body would be going first then the upper body after. For some people when they feel the upper body....the lower body goes by itself. For others focus on the lower would be appropriate.

[@mikesteele9038]

Absolutely fantastic video!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks a lot, Mike!

[@jeffdugan2846]

Great Comment on Bowing the left wrist on DS to Shallow Club.

[@CogornoGolf]

Yessir! Its an option for sure!

[@BertM-pq9dy]

Eric, I find it much more effective to look at the triangle created by the left and right for arms. The triangle is relatively horizontal in the backswing and becomes vertical in the downswing. The more vertical and more shallow the club gets. No need to manipulate the wrist. Also very powerful to pull the grip and hard to cast from that position.

[@CogornoGolf]

That works!

[@johngolden8549]

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[@CogornoGolf]

Love it! I'm looking to get to 100 as well! I do not have videos on exercises you mention. Should be some other good resources on here on youtube or google though with some searching! Any good mobility program would be a nice start!

[@dennisbabcock5315]

Great video. As an aside, loved you queuing the ads rather than have them interrupt in the middle of a sentence.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Dennis! I don't control that but will pass along to the team as a note for future ad placements!

[@MrKatfit]

Great explanation I learned a lot thanx

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Roger!

[@kurray10]

Great video! But a tiny nit pick..... in transition flexing the wrist only rotates the shaft on it's own axis thus closing the face. To shallow the club you have to pronate the forearm. I think doing both moves together during the transition are good. Sorry can't help using the anatomically correct terms lol.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Kurray! You're right--lead wrist flexion mainly changes face to path and dynamic loft. And pronation has a more direct effect on shallowing (shaft angle) BUT as you flex that does also shallow the shaft as you add the flex you also add ulnar deviation (which in combination) make the shaft angle lower.

[@daveschreiber9587]

This might be the trick that finally gets me to a shallow shaft. But one question ... how shallow is "shallow enough?" At left arm parallel on the downswing if a line drawn through the shaft down toward the ball hits the ground right outside the ball, is that shallow enough? By "outside the ball" I mean on the side of the ball furthest from my feet. Thanks!

[@CogornoGolf]

At left arm parallel on the downswing if a line drawn through the shaft down toward the ball hits the ground right outside the ball, is that shallow enough? -Yes!

[@daveschreiber9587]

@@CogornoGolf Awesome. I can do that with my irons now. But I just realized that standing further from the ball with the driver ... the geometry requires an even more shallow swing inorder for that line to hit the ground outside the ball. Is that right?

[@CogornoGolf]

I think the same checkpoint applies. More tilt at setup and more extension with upper body/right side bend should automatically have the driver plane more "shallow" with the same feels as irons.

[@mikewilliams1479]

Sweet lesson. I know am too steep and it makes me jump up in the downswing. But i have one question: Can a shallower takeaway into backswing start the process of shallower downswing?

[@CogornoGolf]

It CAN.....but doesn't guarantee it. I would definitely want some backswing depth as a starting point to come from inside kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmK8fqdsaLacq6c If you're too steep I would start with 30 reps daily next 90 days of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4HWen1qgpeiibs

[@mikewilliams1479]

@@CogornoGolf thanks mate

[@wreckim]

Awesome lesson Eric. I wonder why it's so hard for us amateurs to do this. I have a steep downswing; no doubt about it. I get away with most of the time because of my handicap and playing

[@CogornoGolf]

Lots of times issues that come earlier in the swing cause it! So its often a REACTION...have to fix those earlier things to fix that steep shaft a lot of the time!

[@DanielMacias34]

Never thought of using my chest to move the club down. My arms are all messed up lol. Ty per usual!

[@CogornoGolf]

haha :) You got it!!

[@chrisstevens2593]

Very informative and as they say in geometry a triangle is the strongest geometric shape. So my question would be this, if one feels like they are maintaining the triangle arm structure during the downswing, what would be the corrections if the ball goes right or left instead of straight?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Chris! Thanks! I would say if the shaft angle feel below the triangle that would be "too shallow" or "under plane". You would expect pushes to the right and/or hooks to the left with that pattern If the shaft angle went above the triangle that would be "steep" or over the top of the plane. The would lead to pulls to the left or fades. Hope that helps

[@chrisstevens2593]

Definitely good for knowing cause and effect

[@alexedwards5113]

Fantastic video once again!

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it, Alex!

[@mmmwwwood]

Eric, Love your videos. This video makes sense but seems opposite of what I’ve been working on from previous videos…which is using the split grip drill, dropping the hands down to start downswing and then turning into the ball with the body. Also seems completely different than the Malaska move. When I feel like I start more with the body like this video or Gankas videos and I flatten shaft to start the downswing and keep hands out and in front it just feels completely different. I know these are ‘feels’ but can you please clarify the difference? Thanks

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Mike! Appreciate your support! Like you mentioned, there are endless amounts of "feels" all an attempt to basically produce the same "real". I would highly encourage you to record your swings feeling the different feels, and study the videos and take notes on what is mechanically different when you're actually swinging and hitting a ball. If you need any help with this and/or more personalized guidance than these videos can offer, we'd love to work with you over at www.cogornogolf.com 👊 Here is a bonus video with a lot of details on shallowing the shaft that you may enjoy checking out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGqUlXePm654gNU Thanks so much for watching the channel!

[@mmmwwwood]

Will do… thanks for your time Eric

[@pohoresky]

Great video Query how far do you bring down the magic triangle with your chest & shoulders? Till your hands reach the middle of your stance or until they reach right hip?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Harold! Yeah I would say the feel is from the top of the backswing to about left arm parallel in downswing or just begin that (first 1- feet)

[@marcussheldon9220]

hi, Eric. We all know the importance of shallowing the golf club, but not enough about coming in too much from the inside and creating fat shots. its finding the middle. Which is the middle and how much do you need to come in from the inside. Nobody talks of this. What is your thoughts. thank you

[@CogornoGolf]

Here are some good check points Marcus: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6ewo6Ouj6aUrK8 Shaft between bottom of right shoulder and right bicep by left arm parallel in downswing Then shaft just a touch inside hands when shaft parallel just before impact Here is more kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpu4dJmwgtKAapo

[@zackfishman3245]

How do I connect this concept with your video from Mike Malaska on tipping the shaft? And...how does the right shoulder open up if your magic triangle is glued or soldered in place?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Zack! 1. You would not. Tipping the shaft would be the opposite of shallowing. You would look at your swing and see which one you need more of based on the checkpoints I give during our downswing videos (shaft points on or slightly outside of the ball during downswing) **watch just the downswing part kzbin.info/www/bejne/pl7XnqCZjt97orc kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6TUdZywoJ2hr5Y 2. Right shoulder works down and forward. Shoulders open LESS in first foot or so...then from there it really fires **general shoulder turn checkpoints kzbin.info/www/bejne/mITGg5-VhJuIi9E **like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2OvfWx6jN5mlZI

[@zackfishman3245]

@@CogornoGolf That connects it. Fantastic, Eric. You are a great curator of golf methods. I really appreciate how agnostic you are when you present other practitioners of your teaching craft. Thank you!

[@jjjohnson46758]

So is that the ulner deviation move to start the down swing thats talked about.

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey James! Well...thats part of it.

[@markcampbell1708]

Great video - well done...

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Mark! Appreciate the support!

[@joe10944]

Can you shallow the shaft by merely tucking in the right elbow? Joe M

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Joe! Its PART of it yes kzbin.info/www/bejne/eandh3yjbbV8pKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXvToap6fNubo7s

[@steveash656]

Really helpful chaps.

[@CogornoGolf]

Our pleasure, Steve! Glad to hear that!

[@giovannichessari8559]

Great video hope John will make one with you with a driver next time 🤙🤙

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks Giovanni!

[@soapjorgans8163]

Hey Eric another awesome videos! will you still hit fades with a more shallow swing?

[@CogornoGolf]

Thank you! You 100% can! Just have to make sure the path gets left of the face angle.....or said differently the face stays slightly open to the path

[@chipsatterly4902]

DJ, Morikawa and Rohm all have that BOWED wrist as they come into the ball. Very obvious on the DTL views at the top of the backswing. DJ seems to set that wrist position right on takeaway, while Colin and John R bend that wrist (shallow) just as they start the downswing. Thus, "locked in" as described here, they just have to turn their bodies really fast for a great "shallow" strike and a lot of ball speed = pro distance. Thanks!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Nice way to play, Chip!

[@darleenbielefeldt8611]

Very informative. Thank you!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Darleen! Our pleasure!

[@Bronco-Bill]

Tried this today on range which worked really well as long as ball was on really short (almost ground level)tee. On the ground lost 20-30 yds due to strike being 1/2 inch fat

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey William! Hope you get it sorted my friend!

[@ashleywalls4097]

May take more than one range session.

[@DarkDMD]

Hey Eric - I'm lucky enough to have access to a launch monitor which can tell me my swing path. I feel like my swing could use some swallowing, but when I attempt it, I am around 6 to 8 degrees in to out. Is this excessive and if so, what should I be looking for as optimal in to out path?

[@CogornoGolf]

I like 1-3* R

[@DarkDMD]

@@CogornoGolf thanks man!

[@WTSPC]

Love this one but really wanted to see a connection with the ball would have been a great finishing touch.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback and support Paul!

[@a.chummarverghese5982]

Is the wrist position different from the Down Out and Up method on the Backswing?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Nope...same ideas!

[@555Trout]

I'd have liked this more if the attention was on dominant hand intentions/ conditions. I don't believe that the vast majority of us have much awareness or control of our weak arm/hand relative to the dominant. The way I'd describe what was going on here is the right forearm rotating clockwise with increasing rt wrist extension(and matching left wrist flexion) while moving from radial deviation to ulnar deviation of the right hand. Imo pulling the arms down is not the primary reason the shaft gets steep. I know as a fact many fine players pull the arms down hard. Including long drive champions. Steepening happens because it's very "natural" to want to flex the right wrist coming out of transition, and clockwise right forearm rotation is very counter intuitive for players when they are trying to square the clubface. So they flex the right wrist and either resist clockwise forearm rotation or even rotate counterclockwise, all steepening the shaft. When actually the intention should be to get the right forearm to rotate clockwise while torso rotation pressures extend the right wrist. "Lag" is purely rt wrist extension and not radial deviation. Right wrist radial deviation tracks left wrist extension is another way to see things. All no good. I think the way this lesson was taught would be much better for a flipped player, playing with his dominant side in the lead. I've said all the same things here from a dominant side perspective. Most of our brain is devoted to running the dominant hand and imo that's the primary if not the only thing we have at our disposal to direct our intentions. Peace out.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the thoughts my friend!

[@ahbalone]

Actually shallowing the swing plane alone does not affect the solidity if the strike - it helps by countering the swing plane from shifting out over the top and messing up the "square to the target line" face angle. Regardless of the swing plane, the clubhead always travels on an arc. 8:20 To hit more solid, square the face angle + some forward shaft lean angle and level out the approach angle to impact like Byron Nelson. Concentrating on better (earlier) sequencing of the lower body movement with more relaxed arms in the downswing transition and less hand manipulation and less swing thoughts gives you more feel and control.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for your feedback and thoughts!

[@ahbalone]

@@CogornoGolf You're the bomb!

[@Phoenixsilas]

Easier said than done! Shallowing.. it is a subtle move but rehearsing it slow is easy. But when you add forces it all goes back to steep. Getting the club in the slot is unatural and that’s why it’s hard to improve our swings. It’s the magic move. Need more content drills. I have a perfect swing and flush the ball. However on video the shaft never gets shallow enough to where it is in the right forearm on downswing. (Which is what all pros have in common just before impact.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate you watching, Teva! Start short and slow and build your way up...exaggerate your feels 10,000X more than you think you'd need to...and film every swing and check video after every swing. Adjust and repeat! Here's another video on shallowing you may enjoy checking out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lX6wh6Gljqutg68 Hope this helps!!

[@Phoenixsilas]

Thank u. I’ll try the exaggerated figure 8 drill in an attempt to change my feels and reels! Hope it gets the club to fall into the slot. I just feel this is what the ultimate goal is. If u can get it I to your forearm on the down swing, no matter pro or amateur you get to turn and burn!!! At this point The forces take over and left or right as a result… grip is to blame. And a grip is very easy to adjust. 😉

[@chestermicek]

I'll try that at the range

[@CogornoGolf]

:)

[@johncooper6667]

great stuff guys

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, John!

[@rhawr]

Why vertical the shaft when you can start the club already parallel with your shoulders? I think starting vertically is working your wrist too much?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hi there! We typically will get the opposite reaction in transition of whatever we do on the backswing. Meaning if we go back too shallow/horizontal with the shaft, we'll almost always get too steep with it on the way down. Check this video out for more details! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIOyfHSCh5arqLc Please let us know if you have any questions! Thank you for watching!

[@beltunaman]

How does his flattening work with Malaska’s stand the club up?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! IT doesn't :) You need to always feel the opposite of your issue. So if you are too steep with shaft you want to feel more shallow. If you're too shallow you need to feel more steep. The goal is to hit a neutral checkpoint (butt of club points at or just outside of the ball/target line) Mike and I talked about it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3LbfIZuZ7xle5I

[@shawnbialkowski5380]

Dude, GREAT VIDEOS

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it, Shawn! Thanks for being here with us man!

[@terrybrett6164]

Wow excellent video.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Terry!

[@martinhardman9288]

Yes. Very good. As well as the left wrist bowing is it also a valid feeling for the right elbow to move "out" and for the right hand to feel like its palm up and spinning a plate. This is how it feels for me

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Martin!

[@jimseeger9966]

Best video ever!!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate it, Jim :)

[@jimspatz9211]

A+++ description!!

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Jim! John is great...we really enjoyed working with him!

[@juancolon9249]

I love it thank you.

[@CogornoGolf]

Our pleasure, Juan! Hope it serves you well!

[@samleblanc7642]

Hello @ericcogorno must shallowing videos show a transition move that has the hands well infront of the body, almost 4-6” infront of where the hands were at address Can you do a video to explain hand path from address to impact? I feel these videos beg to have that question answered

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Sam! Thanks for the message! I'm not 100% sure exactly what you are saying/asking here....can you re phrase? I'm sure we have a video I can link to help. Are you asking how to get shaft lean (hand forward at impact) ?

[@samleblanc7642]

@@CogornoGolf between 18 and 19mins he describes the arm structure followed by delivering the club to the ball with his chest. If you freeze the example at 19:10 his hands look like they are on top of the ball. I just don’t understand how you’d be able to hit the ball from that position I must be misunderstanding something

[@samleblanc7642]

@@CogornoGolf It looks VERY OTT

[@CogornoGolf]

OH it gotcha...sorry about that Sam. You are correct. That is poor demonstrating on my part I should have noted that. The lead arm should be in still at left arm parallel....I like over the 4 oclock checkpoint here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpu4dJmwgtKAapo

[@samleblanc7642]

@@CogornoGolf Appreciate the feedback on clearing that up. That helps immensely 🙏🏼

[@michaelb6801]

Love the visual with the ruler and the locked in feeling. Great vid as usual Eric, keep it up.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Michael!

[@broonybroony9564]

Superb

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks!

[@jimliadis4746]

Awesome instruction, if I could say anything, no one showed how not to lift your arms up

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Jim! Appreciate the feedback!

[@patiossa]

I don’t get this. Your hands are so far away from your body at 19:13. I don’t see how you actually hit the ball from there

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey P T! I agree. We did not do a great job demonstrating there....thats my fault. I would prefer the arm working over the 4 o'clock In between right pec and sternum when left arm parallel to the ground like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpu4dJmwgtKAapo

[@ninjazx6r69]

If you notice he is almost stood up when showing this, if he had left shoulder down it would look more normal. Remember left shoulder down will steepen the shaft and rotation will bring hands in. Do the move and stand up shaft should be horizontal and right elbow in in front. You can do this from any position. It’s a video more about arm structure. Eric’s video on right side bend with right hip high gets my arms in this position. You have to decide which you need to work on. I need my arms to react to the pivot because my pivot doesn’t react to the arms.

[@patiossa]

@@CogornoGolf thank you. That makes more sense. FYI I had seen that 4:00 video prior and found it extremely helpful. Hence my confusion with this one!

[@kukamaolen3669]

Unfortunately lowering the shaft and hands together with chest lead to over the top move. Hands must go much faster than torso and beginners must learn that first. That move what you show is for more advanced golffers and it’s more of a feel. Hands never go with same speed with chest. Took me years to figure that out and there are not much information about it out there.

[@CogornoGolf]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@kukamaolen3669]

@@CogornoGolf And to make clear, this content as well is very good as usual from you. You go so well to details understanding those better than most teaching pros that’s for sure. I have learned a lot from you over the years and want to thank you for that. Golfswing is so weird to learn. Pulling the handle and using your arms are great tips for the over the topper but really bad for the one who has the proper sequence. There are so much of information out there about using your body and everything go together in a swing. That is so bad for most of us. Seems that pros that learn a proper swing when they are kids never can understand or feel that they speed up their hands compared to the body.

[@factual6591]

= Lead arm Flying wedge

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for watching, Alexander!

[@bruceheysse4835]

Watch old vids of Ben Hogan, he does this move perfectly.

[@CogornoGolf]

Yes he does!

[@jerrybirdsong6739]

Using my chest and shoulders to start my downswing is making a big difference. The must have been out of sync.

[@CogornoGolf]

:)

[@louispounds7486]

Please continue through impact

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Louis! What in particular would you like to see through impact? We have 800 videos so Im sure we have something you are looking for somewhere else

[@louispounds7486]

@@CogornoGolf thx for response, through impact with the down, out, and up video series

[@CogornoGolf]

got it...here is what the left/arm wrist would do through the ball into follow through kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ29o5yLpbVqhNU

[@louispounds7486]

@@CogornoGolf thanks for responding. In the link your left hand glove logo doesn't face, down, out and up...are the movements still the same?

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Louis! Yes. The more down, out and up on the way back the more you would keep the elbow toward target and logo away version in the follow through

[@patkilger9141]

Eric, it seems you have presented two different methods of shallowing the club. Very confusing!

[@MrAbrazor]

The shallowing of the club is unconscious, it’s by moving the knees flexing forward like you see in Trevino swing for ex

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey! Well sure it is....if you do it subconsciously. But what if you do not? You move the knees flexing forward and it does not shallow.....then what should someone do? Thats really who we are trying to help. All the best

[@tomgill8864]

I thought this video was quite confusing for the average player.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for the feedback, Tom! Sorry about that.

[@tomgill8864]

@@CogornoGolf Thanks Eric. On a positive note, I do enjoy your golf videos. I hope you have a great year.

[@fransbernard6772]

What a sermon..

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for being here with us and watching, Frans. I appreciate your support!

[@jeffdugan2846]

Now you need a training tool for the Magic Triangle that rests on the Forearm and shaft.

[@CogornoGolf]

Good idea :)

[@fransbernard6772]

Not even put into practice by hitting the ball.

[@CogornoGolf]

Sorry about that Frans!

[@golfweed9947]

Info OK but this video is way too long! All this information can be conveyed in less than 8 minutes or less.

[@CogornoGolf]

I agree. Thats my fault...I will work to shorten them up moving forward.

[@John-wg1jh]

It sounds dirty, but it isn't. 😂

[@philipchan1856]

Different skool of taught .....

[@CogornoGolf]

:)

[@jeanlouisdubillon4212]

Don t like this picturale , the Hand too much far from the body

[@CogornoGolf]

Hey Jean! Thanks for the feedback!

[@hansotte6734]

Boring, stupid over thinking. Can you both even shoot under par? This is why 98% of golfers cant break 80 consistently.

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks for your feedback, Hans!

[@rogerwilkins7179]

Fantastic

[@CogornoGolf]

Thanks, Roger!