The Man Who Killed Millions and Saved Billions (Clean Version)

[@andresdsep]

Let's recount the events of this reupload, shall we? 1. Veritaseum releases a video about Fritz Haber, with only a passing comment about his wife's suicide (allegedly due to his work) 2. Community discusses video as a whole: Haber, fertiliser, weapons, morality, etc... 3. KZbin age-restricts and demonitises said video due to this passing comment 4. Veritaseum edits his video then re-uploads the censored version 5. Community proceeded to discuss ONLY the removed topic. The suicide. Top marks there KZbin.

[@ZennExile]

I mean we could discuss how this man's legacy is literally at the core of the Carbon Crisis and how he put miles on a hoe named Industrial Agriculture when he knew damn well that, at scale, Industrial Agriculture was never sustainable, and his technology would just buy the planet half a century. But the truth isn't fun, so the kids won't engage with it.

[@stocktonnash]

This

[@gamerlowgraphics]

I bumped up this one

[@ginoginoh]

Streisand effect

[@GarethDavidson]

Oo oo EE ooo oo oo oo oo ooh.. Barbra Streisand!

[@zacharyrice3997]

So frustrating to see educational creators punished for historical content. This happened, but KZbin's advertiser first mentality forces people to do things like this. Much love to you and the channel, keep it up!

[@wave1090]

More like American puritan culture forces advertisers to be extremely "clean" and "safe". Americans are too easily offended by anything.

[@namantherockstar]

Veritasium inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging.

[@norude]

Without that mentality KZbin would be bankrupt or they would start deleting videos We should be grateful that anyone can upload a video on this platform

[@HAKIMEOVER9000]

​@@namantherockstarYou are a bot with no content, why would real people subscribe to you?

[@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer]

​@@namantherockstarif your parents saw you begging they would probably disown you

[@Lyx21]

"Haber-Bosch, the great alliance, Where's the contradiction? Fed the world by ways of science, sinner or a saint? Father of Toxic gas and chemical warfare His dark creation has been revealed Flow over no man's land, a poisonous nightmare A deadly mist on the battlefield" -"Father" by Sabaton

[@hans_alfredschannel9982]

"Perversions of ideals of science, Lost words of alienated wife"

[@Simon_the_penguin]

I was looking for this comment

[@TheCombatEditor62]

@@hans_alfredschannel9982 "And in the trenches of the Western Front unknowing soldiers pay the price"

[@TheCombatEditor62]

"Where Will this lead? What's coming next..... From your inventions? "We wonder Where.... Where does it end???? Who can foresee..... See what will be?"

[@prpandey6033]

Holy sh!t !!! I was actually looking for someone who mentioned sabaton

[@HitsandHeadlines]

When KZbin age restricts veritasium you know they are messing up

[@yosefraed8244]

Dident know that

[@shubhkesarwani2122]

Facts

[@Joe_C.]

💯💯💯

[@namantherockstar]

Veritasium inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging.

[@aminromero8599]

What was the conflicting segment in the original video?

[@tileworldgames7636]

Not being allowed to talk about suicide in this way is a severe lapse in judgement. I believe it only makes things worse.

[@puirYorick]

*lapse

[@EggBastion]

--laps-- _lapse_

[@MuppetsSh0w]

If we ignore bad things they will disappear...

[@blackbird351]

@@MuppetsSh0w Surely 😏

[@shapelessed]

@@MuppetsSh0w Pretty sure cancer would have different opinion, as would many other things...

[@marksamuelsen2750]

I’m a 71yo Veteran and my Grandfather fought in WW1 . He had told me some stories about the war and all the truly horrific things he saw. Damn! Why are humans always killing each other?

[@Voltprime99]

Lmao 🤣

[@wesleyduckett1982]

$$$$$$$$$$

[@dleoner1]

@@wesleyduckett1982bingo!! Money = power

[@wesleyduckett1982]

@@dleoner1 we are worth much more than our masters have alluded to

[@jean4186]

Because each side believes that they are right.

[@notfunny3397]

Can't believe KZbin would try to restrict this amazing video from being seen by kids

[@DasviWallah]

What u expect from KZbin bro

[@horvathsogranfume658]

i believe it, youtube is terrible in 2023

[@nneeerrrd]

That's woke communism for ya. Reign of p*ssies

[@purona2500]

youtube just follows what people are willing to put ads on top of. They would allow alot of x rated content if they had avertisers willing to put their name on top of it

[@jasongrundy1717]

@@purona2500 They were happy to let a lot of really horrible stuff targeted at kids go on for years until they took heat for it.

[@Bhargav_Sarma]

Something is fundamentally wrong with KZbin, an educational video gets age restricted but a music video with literal NSFW content is allowed to be uploaded on the platform.

[@riveralley]

Yeah, its crazy!

[@VikingArelius]

Big money goes a long way to get what you want.

[@nneeerrrd]

That's woke communism fore ya. Reign of p*ssies

[@DasviWallah]

Bro that's what KZbin is

[@AvantelWulf]

I’ve seen a clip from HBO’s Silicon Valley be marked as “kids” and the comments turned off

[@lezilucero2599]

Thanks for re-uploading the video. I will watch this video again and again and share it with friends.

[@levon8297]

glaziiinggggggg

[@thebutcher5236]

@@levon8297bro shut up

[@iknowmyenglishsucksbutfock2081]

@@levon8297 bro just learned that word (idc if its 2 months late)

[@ninjawhale03]

For those wondering the Bits that were taken out were at 16:00 - 17:26 of the original video (I think that's all, I could be wrong though), it regards Clara's suicide. In my personal opinion, this promotes leaving out events that should not be forgotten. I can sympathise more if these events were modern, but I personally feel it's different for more historical ones. There is also the issue of perhaps triggering people who may have trauma, but I feel like this isn't a reason to demonetise. Rather it's more of an incentive to release a clean version as well.

[@Twodoor1]

U literaly learn about worse things in school, this platforms gone of the rails

[@Armadous]

Maybe it was reasonable to remove the cartoon depiction of the suicide but I don't like that the information was stricken entirely. I guess Derek wanted to steer clear of it entirely.

[@ninjawhale03]

@@LarmAlter Sorry to be clear when I say I sympathise, I mean I empathise. Like I understand, but I still disagree, I don't believe that just because someone is covering suicide means the video should be demonetized. The only time I feel someone should probably be demonetised is if they are being douchey and disrespecting someone, taking advantage of a suicide to get more money if you get my meaning.

[@ninjawhale03]

@@Armadous Ah I see I hadn't thought of that, it's not that the subject matter was necessarily the issue. It was way it was depicted. Personally I feel it was depicted fine, but it is what is I guess

[@ninjawhale03]

In fact I double checked trigger warnings on youtube don't come with guaranteed demonetization, so maybe the topic didn't demonetize it, it could've just added the warning and the cartoon demonetized it. Maybe someone who knows more about youtube can offer more insight I don't know much about this stuff.

[@isoid]

This is one of the best videos on your channel imo, and it is great educational content. The fact that youtube is restricted this stuff is screwed up.

[@Dak3]

Good, they should restrict Nazi content

[@BishopStars]

Yeah, killing millions of people with poison gas is cool, but nobody should ever discuss mental health.

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

That is the beautiful world of mindless advertising. We want things for free, so we have to live with that.

[@dumbahhperson]

There’s a bomb explosion in beirut where people died… maybe that’s a reason? Don’t think KZbin tells you the specific reason but that would be my guess.

[@LemurWhoSpoke]

It's actually one of the channel's worst videos because it promotes an unscientific myth. Haber didn't "feed a growing population." He grew the population! Humans cannot be created without excess food. To say otherwise is to claim that humans are made from thin air. This is a common myth, foolishly embraced even by population ecologists. We know that the populations of every other species on earth track food availability. Their populations rise only when more food becomes available. The same is true of humans, but because we move food around through trade, many people can't see the connection. So when we "make more food to feed a growing population," what we're doing is actually growing the population. And we're doing so to the delight of the economists who perpetuate this myth. After all, growing populations equal growing economies. What's laughable is that even environmentalists fall for this crap, even though it undermines their work.

[@lukeboofyboofy]

This is why I like Nebula. Content creators are not restricted there and are able to speak about topics that are sensitive without fear for being removed.

[@Bingus_Loves_Potatoes]

first xd

[@dm3892]

Probably owned by KZbin too

[@novasludge3484]

Do you need more attention?​@@Bingus_Loves_Potatoes

[@itsoddsquad]

But it's not free... NO CAPITALISM

[@itsoddsquad]

@@dm3892 Really?

[@livyhouse5946]

I did not watch the original video when it came out, but based on the comments it’s seems the portion cut discussed suicide. As a person who has struggled with suicide and knows many others who have, CENSORSHIP IS NOT THE WAY TO HELP!!! One of the hardest things for those struggling with mental health is that there is negative stigma associated with it. People who struggle with this should not be shoved aside or told that they need to hide their pain. They need to be seen as real people struggling with real things, and education is a critical part of this. It hurts to see that KZbin feels the need to censor the suffering of people presented in an educational and historical way. The point of talking about suicide is that it is painful, and telling sufferers that they should hide their pain is FAR more dangerous than allowing this dialogue to take place. Mental health is real. Too many people have died of it to pretend it’s not. At the very least, we owe it to them and to those struggling now to encourage education with kindness and an open mind, not fear and shame. For those who may be struggling, please know that you are not the only one, and that struggling with mental health is okay. I know first hand how hard it is, and recovery is not an easy path. But it is worth every ounce of effort that you put in. Just knowing that you have made it this far tells me that you are more than strong enough to get through this. And thank you, for inspiring me to keep trying when I feel like giving up. Knowing that you are out there fighting gives me the courage to get through one more day. The world may not change much, but we will. And it will get easier in time. Until you can believe in yourself, I will believe in you. Please stay safe all, take care of yourselves! ❤️

[@hastypete2]

Send this comment to the top of the list please.

[@jeff32103]

There is no valid reason for censorship of any kind.

[@boiledelephant]

"Struggling with mental health is okay." Thank you for writing this. 💯

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

​@@jeff32103first amendment rightt

[@riccardo9953]

You are absolutely correct, but sadly youtube does not exist to inform or to do good, it exists to make profit off adds. That is the only thing they care about. The community, education, people’s lives, they don’t matter to the quarterly profits report.

[@TheRealQuickSilver]

It's so sad that the original video got age-restricted. This is one of my favorite Veritasium videos. It came out while I was still in my chemistry degree and I got so excited when Veritasium replied to my question about Hildebrant's flask. I'm glad he re-uploaded it for kids to be able to watch. I must say, I can see why very young children might not need to be exposed to topics of suicide, but to restrict it to 18 is a huge mistake on KZbin's part. With teen suicides being as common as they are, it is a topic people should discuss openly, not act as though it doesn't exist.

[@flavius29663]

There is a phenomenon called suicide contagion. I think youtube made the right call on this one, even though 99% of the time youtube is wrong, in this case it might have been right

[@johnny56700]

Small correction: Its restricted to age 14+, not 18.. But still agree with your statement

[@jodeer3232]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@s13driftlove]

​@@johnny56700yes. The main reason it was re-uploaded was because the original was demonetized. Doubt many people below 14 would be watching anyway

[@johnny56700]

@@s13driftlove You'll never know lol

[@Syl14_]

"Sir, this is a shitty island." "EXCELLENT, I'LL TAKE IT."

[@UnknownMFe]

These awesome videos don't deserve to be age restricted

[@kittyn5222]

And besides most kids lie about their age, I know for a fact that 5% minimum here are under 13. I myself am 12 I'm almost 13.

[@n1ppe]

​@@kittyn5222 I was required to prove that I was not underage to KZbin in order to be able to watch age restricted content.

[@kittyn5222]

@@n1ppe I didn't

[@franciscovictor8187]

Dude you guys are not understanding. The problem is not talking about suicide, it is talking about suicide to children. The video wasnt silenced, it was age restricted. So to anyone disagreeing with youtube's policy, read this.

[@UnknownMFe]

@@franciscovictor8187 sorry. I put no thought into this comment and it is stupid

[@1.4142]

The part cut out is 16:00 in the original video talking about Clara's suicide. This really takes away from the human part of the story.

[@zunedude91]

I was just thinking about this too. I remember hearing about her suicide and how it may have been related to her discontent with her husband's work in war using chemicals.

[@sethdhanson]

God forbid anyone mentions suicide.

[@firmak2]

I dont know about taking away the human part but im not a fan of censorship of any kind.

[@lux-nocopyrightmusic]

The reason they censored it is in my opionion reasonable after I have thought a bit about it. Mentioning suicides usually leads to more people commiting suicide (there's even an own wikipedia regarding this strong correlation)

[@jankiprasadsoni6793]

Cringe KZbin

[@kopexgaming]

pov you give villagers 8 stack of bread and tons of bed

[@homelander820]

Bro 😂😂😂thas crazy

[@matimele1]

What are you trying to show with this comparison?

[@NYTA-]

woi bantu.. LU KIRA GW SABUNG AYAM DI LIATIN ANAK ANAK KONTROL

[@PotatoTheProgrammer]

@@matimele1its funny

[@JjOkm]

Is it just me or not, she kinda looks like max verstapen? 9:12

[@kennyqwer]

Thank you for this reupload. Let this be my small contribution to your work. Thank you!

[@DJGaming-co4il]

Whats the value of it in USD tho?

[@abuzzybee2342]

@@DJGaming-co4il 6 bucks, it's a nice small contribution :^)

[@Infamous41]

Where is DKK from?

[@storagedrive4369]

Denmark Krona @@Infamous41

[@HLF20]

@@Infamous41 Denmark :)

[@vlogbrotherdave]

This is one of my very favorite of your videos! I'm glad you reuploaded, you deserve payment for it and it should be seen by all

[@whatusernameshaveleft2822]

It is really impressive what impact one person can do for decades and maybe even centuries

[@dark-wilh]

I am glad that you have reupload the video. I was really disappointed to see that youtube decided to age-restrict it, as I wanted to see it a second time ; because this video is really good and very interesting

[@Menon9767]

Well just because its age restricted doesnt mean you cant watch it. Theres a simple tool to bypass this, and you can just make a fake google account

[@MusicalRaichu]

@@Menon9767 YouToob asked for my credit card in order to watch it. I don't want to give them that kind of information.

[@eugene9852]

@@Menon9767 Age restrictions are there for a very good reason!!! 🙄

[@Menon9767]

@@eugene9852 definitely depends. Talking about suicide shouldn't get something age restricted to 18, teenagers need to be confronted with and educated about that topic. Talking about sex educationally also doesn't need to be age restricted, maybe only actual graphic acts. Talking about violence (e.g. torture, war or murder) in an educative manner is also something that teenagers can deal with and something they need to know about. Glorifying it or showing explicit content is for 18+

[@Menon9767]

What I'm trying to say is that youtube is very inconsistent and too punishing on these topics. Creators shouldn't lose massive amounts of money for telling a historical story as it is without euphemisms

[@TeoTN]

KZbin is just nuts for age-restricting and demonetizing you. I've played it once again, upvoted and commented on to ensure you get all the due credit for this video. It's great, please keep doing them 💎

[@bunkersurf2779]

Thats great! Did the same ! For me its one of the greatest story. I love it.

[@franciscovictor8187]

Dude you guys are not understanding. The problem is not talking about suicide, it is talking about suicide to children. The video wasnt silenced, it was age restricted. So to anyone disagreeing with youtube's policy, read this.

[@mjears]

Thank you so much for telling this story in depth, and allowing us to still watch the uncensored version. Thank you *especially* for your wise, calm and realistic assessment of history at 19:08.

[@UnflippedGD]

This comment cuts off at a very interesting spot

[@Joshua-hb7cs]

​@@UnflippedGD wdym?

[@UnflippedGD]

idk its been a while since I made that comment@@Joshua-hb7cs

[@nightlad71]

​@@Joshua-hb7cs hey i am assuming you still dont get it. The original video at the given timestamp mentioned suicide. But youtube demonetized the video so the creator had to reupload with the suicide part cut out. So when the video talks about the death he just says he died umm peacefully 😅

[@okotbryan2011]

True

[@mustafaa.4690]

For anyone who wants to know, the cencored part is about the suicide of Haber's wife, around 15:57 - 17:26 in the original video.

[@kenishathomas4660]

I will continue to support this video by sharing it with my Chemistry students. I loved it. Thank you so much! Ps: In the future we will be buying your snapatoms too. All the best!

[@snowissj]

Such an important piece of history. Crossing moralities with murder and giving life. You are probably alive from this guy, and so many others were killed by his knowledge.

[@johnslugger]

*As a German I can say "WE ARE NOT ALL NAZIS!" - In-fact as far as the 'MASTER-RACE' concept it came from books written by the eugenics movement based in Pasadena, California USA in 1901. Google "Better Babies Contests". In the United States (1908-1916) where Blue eyed, Blond haired babies" where considered the best Human 'Live-Stock' for reproduction of the American race while dark skinned babies were banned from these contests. The eugenics movement also made CASTRATION the preferred punishment for black criminals in the Whole Western World from America to Australia. Over 10 million Aborigines where castrated in Australia for just being MEN and as an attempt to make their race go extinct! The whole MASTER-RACE concept was started by Southern Democrats and their books on Eugenics and it spread to Europe by the 1920's where Hitler read about it for THE FIRST TIME while Hitler was in prison and first learned about Eugenics and put his own twist on it. All this "Master-Race" stuff was NOT a German concept until AFTER the American Eugenics Movement had spread to Europe! Hitlers goal after reading 'Mary de Garmo's' / "Better Babies Contest" book was to turn Germany into the worlds first Selective Breeding Country. All Started in America. Read the book "War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race" Written by Edwin Black to find the truth on how Europe was influenced by the American movement for racial purity.*

[@dobbi6083]

Kinda reminds of Oppenheimers story with the moral ambiguity

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

​@@dobbi6083mini Manhattan project..

[@truthsRsung]

Go look at the graph at 11:30 again. There was enough food for everyone on Earth. Who thinks that more is always better? Look how the population per yield is exceeded from ~1950 to ~2000. The chemist didn't help anyone. He just put more homes on airable land.

[@billballinger5622]

Greatly exaggerates how many lives he "saved." agriculture did not benefit from his inventions

[@ezekielmulder1056]

As a chemistry PhD student, I use a model kit almost everyday. I will say that snatoms seem like a great idea but the geometry seems like it probably wouldn’t work and there are lots of times when you would want to create bonds which you couldn’t make using fixed magnetic atoms. I realize that this isn’t a problem for most people but making stuff like epoxides and four membered rings are quite useful. That said, if you are mostly interested in working with cyclohexanes and cyclopentanes then they sound great!

[@zabababa9969]

Can you say what brand of model kit for molecules is the best to represent small proteins or nucleic acids and where i can buy it. I'm interested to make a visual representation stereochemistry of active center of enzymes and its substrates.

[@tylerorr3851]

@@zabababa9969 i mean depending on the protein they can be really complex. I know you said small proteins, but we use 22 amino acids to build ourselves so you would need 22 different blocks to represent each amino acid. You also can't visual a protein in just one dimension you have to visualise it four. So honestly, i would be extremely interested in this answer too. For DNA i think you would have a a lot easier time finding a 3d representation.

[@nganalyst2540]

Bad on youtube for age restricting such an informative video. Truly a shame for the platform. Whoever reviewed that video and flagged it should be fired

[@HeisenbergFam]

Video is so good Veritasium felt compelled to reupload this fine piece yet again

[@Red0re]

Tru

[@yosefraed8244]

I mean it is a Master Piece!!!

[@FyodorMikhailovichDostoyev-v7w]

you again....

[@FrostyTheOne_]

Me and my friends used this video for a school project as reference. Landed an A🗣️🔥🔥

[@nneeerrrd]

Nah, "forwokepussiesedition"

[@DJ2punto0]

After watching Oppenheimer, this story is a bittersweet reminder on how history is indeed written by the winners.

[@devandestudios128]

History will always be recorded by the victors because the vanquished aren't alive to write it.

[@jamesmoses4066]

Yep, this holds especially true for Japan, who hides the atrocities they committed during WW2, citizens think we dropped it on them for no reason 😂

[@nathanthemoneyman9191]

in Oppenheimer’s case, the whiners.

[@danielstan2301]

Yup, both of them created something that saved many lives but also killed millions and one is seen as a villain while the other is seen as a hero

[@idiot528]

history is written by whoever writes it down but naratives are pushed by the powerful

[@TheAdvertisement]

Oh hey! I did a research project on this guy! His life is truly an anomaly, a brilliant man who just couldn't let go of his nationalism, and was prideful to a fault. In his later years he dedicated himself to uniting scientists all over the world, and trying to undo the damage both he and his country had done. But even so, he was never fully accepted, his son was estranged, and his wife's suicide never left his mind. He died while away from home for a meeting. I believe he just gave up.

[@TM_Makeover]

Derek, just wanted to tell you that keep up with your informative videos, today's generation is really in need of such videos as they spent a lot of time in brain rotting reels and waste stuff in social media. You are one of those content creators who are actually trying to maintain balance in society, and I really like your physics and mathematics videos especially the electricity ones.

[@Micahslooseearlobe]

My favorite video can’t even complain for a reupload

[@mikeeclipse]

Veritasium's videos are so informative and educational. Love learning something new every time his vids come out.

[@ceilinh6004]

I'm glad this got reuploaded. It's an important and tragic story, and now (hopefully) more people will see it.

[@primenumberbuster404]

Waiting for the Explicit Parental Advisory version of this. 🥵

[@Senriam]

It’s been out for a long time.

[@theodorehamilton1913]

what did they remove

[@jakebalma]

Excellent video. Great topic. Thought provoking. Emotionally stirring. Wonderful work veritasium

[@sayhowling]

Veritasium is one of those channel i actually gonna fight for. like this man have brought nothing but knowledge and this is what youtube repays him.

[@meseet2211]

Hey, hello, what do you plan to do to "actually gonna fight for it"?

[@soundscape26]

It's precisely KZbin that allows him to have the career he has... we're talking about just 1 video.

[@eugene9852]

Relax. Derek is already a multi-millionaire. He'll be fine.

[@jankiprasadsoni6793]

​@@soundscape26Wdym just one video? It's not an everyday mishap like you forgot to wash one of your socks and it disappeared. There is a team to review the video and all and they still chose to de monitize the original one and age restrict this one

[@jankiprasadsoni6793]

​@@eugene9852it's not about money

[@dhruvagole7651]

One of the most consistently good content producing channels, each video gets me just hooked until the end even in the age of shorts!

[@aymonc]

@Veritasium I have one correction to make. Plants get the nitrogen from bacteria on the roots, one fertilizes the soil to artifcicially accelerate the nitrogen in the place of bacteria. So the plants don't get nitrogen from the soil. that would be impossible. Nitrogen and therefore protein only come from bacteria organically. I wrote this before getting to the part in which you acknowledge the bacteria.

[@Nexusquo]

So sad you had to pair down this video. It was your best video yet. Close second is the leaded gasoline video. You’re incredible, you’re the only channel out of dozens I regularly watch that I have notifications setup and will stop nearly anything I’m doing to watch. Please keep them coming!

[@jleewatts4318]

There was no need for the previous version to be demonetized. Telling the personal aspect and how science is a double edged sword is important.

[@AhmedHussain-ju6xd]

"you either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain"

[@abhidey646]

I just added Snatoms to my holiday wishlist. I'm going to be taking some Chemistry next year and it looks fantastic for the Organic Chem section. Thank you for putting out invaluable content.

[@nick.caffrey]

I think your channel is a force for good. I see you as one of the few sources of scientific information that confronts the problem of bias without flinching!

[@DanielLopes-uo7qo]

in a song writen by the Swedish metal band "Sabaton" about Fritz Haber, there is a line that goes like this: "when at times of peace he belonged to the world, when at times of war he belonged to his country of birth" (song name is "Father") and this line is true, when the world was at peace, Haber developed his fertilizer for the world, but when war came he made explosives and gas for his country only

[@kevinarmstrong478]

The people who age restrict such important information believe they are doing the right thing too. Another brilliant episode presented so well Thank you.

[@bpj1805]

Well they're simply wrong, everyone outside their little Silicon Valley echo chamber knows they're wrong, and we would tell them if we didn't get the banhammer for it. No sympathy when their ultimate inevitable demise comes through losing touch with what their market wants. One day when The Moment comes, people will switch away from these toxic platforms faster than they can adjust, and they will get marooned like Myspace. I can't wait for the day it happens.

[@Alwin_Penn]

You could reupload your entire channel and I'd watch them all again. Keep doing what you do

[@hootinouts]

Nothing is ever just black and white. We humans are complex beings with a free will; however, often times there are the political and social forces that tug at our free will.

[@mohamadkourghi509]

That’s a shame, don’t be discouraged, your videos are very educational and sometimes the only thing I look forward to in KZbin, keep going ❤

[@franciscovictor8187]

Dude you guys are not understanding. The problem is not talking about suicide, it is talking about suicide to children. The video wasnt silenced, it was age restricted. So to anyone disagreeing with youtube's policy, read this.

[@JoaoPedro-vr1oc]

Bro I just made a science fair presentation today about chemestry and used this video to study and talk about Haber's inventions. It's very unfortunate that such good content got demonatised.

[@Belfor09]

Derek! I love you! I truly do appreciate the content. Please never stop. You're the pinnacle of KZbin!

[@nathanielmiller2101]

Personally, I think Haber shouldn't be demonized because he weaponized chlorine gas. Look at the Manhattan project and notice that the people on the project aren't viewed negatively like Haber, but since the allies won WW2, they're viewed as heroes. History is written by the victors, and noticing that not everything is black and white should be touched upon more than just sidenotes in textbooks and videos.

[@john-wiggains]

I missed the first version but I’m glad to get to watch this awesome content at all. Thanks Derek and team!

[@alexrogers777]

the full first version is still up

[@Menon9767]

you can still watch the original version

[@pascalbourdeau]

One of your best videos for Veritasium. Exposing the truth in science and the consequences to the population, and scientists that discover them, is truly important.

[@alanmtzq]

your videos are fantastic! keep doing what you do, this type of content its what actually matters and turns internet in something valuable and useful

[@zbyszekkopec908]

Genialnie i naukowo. Dziękuję za pokazanie tych ważnych wiadomości w tak prosty sposób.

[@timg2727]

After reading through the comments, I still have no idea why the original video was age-restricted and demonitized. I understand that it *was,* but I don't understand *why* it was.

[@thebestdamager7400]

Removed the bit about his wives suicide.

[@joeschmoe5063]

What's bizarre is that the parts about chemical warfare and zyclon B being used are A-Okay but one person's death is too mature for children.

[@crustybomb115]

historical content creation has always been absolutely screwed over by the algorythm on youtube, and the older youtube got the harsher the treatment is...

[@Armadous]

I understand the age restriction. There is cause to be cautious around depictions of suicide. The demonetization is just absurd. As if they don't show you commercials before an R rated movie.

[@elnesmito2]

​@@Armadousit is not absurd it is planned. Google doesn't pay high salaries to optimize for revenue sharing. They build algorithms to reduce pay outs wherever possible. Ambiguity is bliss.

[@2358nick]

Well done with Snatoms. So easy to make inorganic molecule models easily and quickly. Awesome learning and teaching aid.

[@Nefville]

Definitely a guy that deserved a Nobel prize that I would have definitely not attended the ceremony of.

[@Alfred-Neuman]

Even if there was free sandwiches and free wine??

[@loftlo]

If he was awarded and the ceremony was held before he started making chemicals for the war, people would probably show up the ceremony.

[@ZeusEBoy]

@@Alfred-Neuman pshh, no. wait what kinda sandwiches though?

[@ZennExile]

well, technically all he really did was enable a catastrophic loss of life in the pursuit of "clean" farming that didn't require waste be returned to all the soils that are only fertile to begin with because of the waste they should have always continued to make. His research didn't actually save people's lives. It destroyed global soils and enabled the delusional mindset that created the Carbon Crisis. Industrial Agriculture isn't a solution, it's the end. And he shoulda known better than to help the NAZI's build a system of Agriculture that would make whoever held the formula the owner of humanity's food supply.

[@thenno4538]

​@@ZennExileThat's a very powerful statement you just said, I would like a source

[@vasilikivasiliki984]

Sometimes science gets a bit hard but luckily there is this channel to explain everything in a simplified way

[@MAHDYzz]

this content is free, what a bliss, such an enjoyable and useful video, you guys always nail it

[@lormeauhenri8008]

Nothing is free... especially knowledge and its legacy "you have to pay attention" and I would say risk or hazard into timespace entropic effects

[@CarlyleA999]

Thanks for taking the time to keep this great lesson accessible!

[@Silvergum]

I guess I could see how this would be automatically flagged, but people at KZbin should know who you are, they should have watched the video, history was what it was, we shouldn't need to dance around the truth, especially when approaching it objectively, this is an awesome channel for all ages, Truth should not be censored it should be contextualized

[@hajhatef3713]

the very best channel on youtube , thank you for your perfect made videos , informing and amazing , well done

[@huey-fan8335]

"Father of toxic gas and chemical warfare, His dark creation has been revealed , flow over no mans land......"

[@dikshitjain5521]

Thank you very much. It's truly amazing the role such stories play when told correctly.

[@TheEgg185]

Wait wait. Come back. Can I have $4? 😫

[@OxygenO2O]

of course not )@@TheEgg185

[@Randomstuff77654]

"50% of the nitrogen atoms in your body came from the Haber process" . That blew my mind

[@mrxmry3264]

13:49 another such explosion occurred back in the 1920s at BASF in oppau. a fertilizer silo containing 1000s of tons (considerably more than in beirut) blew up. the explosion was heard as far away as munich, about 400 km (250 miles) away. i ended up working for that company decades later, and at one point i had a chance to visit one of those silos. i don't know if the one that exploded was the same size, but the one i visited was 10 meters deep, a few dozen meters wide and more than 100 meters long. IOW, it was MASSIVE.

[@adriendebosse6941]

There was the AZF factory (300-400 tons) in France in 2001, 10 days after 9/11, it was quite traumatic at the time.

[@mrxmry3264]

@@adriendebosse6941 hm, can't remember hearing about that one.

[@adriendebosse6941]

@@mrxmry3264 I didn't specify, it was traumatic for the french people, as it was 10 days after 9/11, it was quickly percieved as another terrorist attack

[@marleycharkwick]

I enjoyed this immensely. I was surprised you made no mention Af Carl Bosch he played a major part in the fixation of nitrogen

[@madvisakid]

It' s absolutely disgraceful that KZbin would restrict the original version of this video.

[@LB-vn1lu]

This was really powerful and insightful, both on the man who developed several key areas of chemistry and the historical importance (or lack thereof). Great work!

[@jowhr99]

I love how cinematic and informative your channel are

[@priyanshusingh2745]

I studied haber process so casually just for the sake of exam from chemistry text book but the real significance of this process got to know today from this video . I don’t know but I feel so good that reaction which I just mug up lately has great amount of significance in our life

[@GileadMaerlyn]

There's a great song about Fritz Haber. It's Father, by Sabaton.

[@legolars5122]

Was a real banger to see that dong live

[@prpandey6033]

​@@legolars5122dong..

[@Catpanl]

It’s ironic how history always calls out the people involved in development of new technologies, but skirts the people in political and military power who directly are responsible for the application of those technologies to kill other humans. The story about Oppenheimer is the same, we act like he should felt guilty, but it was Truman, who ordered the bombing and no one under his command in the military from generals to pilots who flew the mission refused. Military and country leaders need to be remembered more frequently in the atrocities of these wars.

[@RexZShadow]

I do agree that in the end its the people in power that make the decision on how to use these new technology. But I also find it funny how people always like to bring up the 2 nukes used. Because the fact remained that the fire bombing done before the use of the nukes were far more deadly and we even had an even deadly version of that (the bat bomb of all things) that wasn't used in flavor of the nukes. People only look at it in hindsight like oh dropping the nukes is bad when it ended the war early and probably saved more lives had it not been used to force a surrender out of Japan.

[@viysnjor4811]

@@RexZShadow Also much of our distaste of nuclear weapons today has to do with their radioactive aftereffects, which were far less well known when the first ones were dropped.

[@rencelani-ty2sc]

Truman was one very evil man and the instigator together with Englands minister of war Of a lot of the events that led to the war in the first place

[@fockewulf190d9]

Truman wanted to let the soviets and the germans destroy each other, even going so far as to help the side that would start to lose. It would have basically depopulated Europe.

[@Walthanar]

I love you so much Derek, your videos are incredibly deep and so important for our collective knowledge and also for our wisdom. The youtube policy is shameful to say the least, but that brought the contents of such an impactful video to the attention of followers old and new, so let's make the best of the whole situation. As a physicist, my heart is always torn apart when I think about the bad applications humanity has given to our beloved scientific studies. When I visited the Peace Memorial Museum in Hiroshima I couldn't stop crying for hours, even now, 7 years later, I am tearing up just thinking about it. And it wasn't the photos of the small rusted tricycle that destroyed me, it was the relatively simple schematics of the actual bomb. It was the thought of the marvels of atomic energy and the minds at work, the time invested to put the most poetic knowledge of our universe at the service of destruction of fellow human lives. And I understand the complex reasons behind the fact that an abrupt ending to the war could have saved more lives than the ones destroyed, I understand the paradoxes and the political finesses involved. It's just that I suffer so much every time humankind finds a reason for war instead of a reason for peace and collaboration. Human mind is capable of incredible discoveries, and yet we as a race always find a way to put it at work for the worst. I will never blame science, hardly the scientists, even those involved in the development of destructive technologies, they might have no other choice. But I am more and more convinced that humanity is not ready for the most amazing gifts that nature has given, which is intellect, and if humankind can't achieve understanding of the poetry behind it, and its uses for enlightened advancements as a whole, as a race, as a universal civilization, then probably our species is not worth it. It's so sad.

[@jeffshoket5155]

Please never STOP telling the truth no matter the cost…!!!! You are very much appreciated.

[@fidd1442]

What you explained in the video, I learned in 2 minutes by my chemistry teacher. Really says a lot about this video.

[@Jessepigman69]

Probably the third time I’ve watched this video now. Absolutely thought provoking every time. This is top tier brain food. Thankyou

[@safiullahqureshi3196]

It's insane that a purely scientific video had to be "cleaned up" and re-uploaded just to satisfy KZbin's all-powerful algorithm. KZbin censorship had gone off the rails lately.

[@zsefton]

I thought I had seen this video before...

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

Lately? You must've missed that global pandemic thing. And elections. And riots. It's been a solid decade 😂

[@mrxmry3264]

in order to go off the rails they'd first have to be ON the rails.

[@crustybomb115]

@@mrxmry3264 they used to be logical with the content that theyd remove off the platform, like literal terrorists uploading videos of heads being chopped off being deleted by the algorythm...

[@pvic6959]

check the description!@@zsefton

[@bunkersurf2779]

this video is so perfect, I watched it 4 time over the last year. Thank you !

[@RahulSangwan-y9c]

It is a prime example of how the most horrible things are started with best of intentions

[@jordanbtucker]

Like KZbin's demonetization practices?

[@deadend4425]

fighting for your country is not a horrible thing

[@RahulSangwan-y9c]

@@deadend4425 wars are not horrible??? Then what is??

[@deadend4425]

@@RahulSangwan-y9c haber didn't initiate the war. he just helped his country win so that it doesn't suffer war reparations making its people suffer. wouldn't you fight for your country?

[@viysnjor4811]

@@deadend4425 inventing chemicals weapons, which were frowned upon even then, definitely is a horrible thing, though even he would never know just how far his chemistry would be used for evil in the holocaust.

[@jjeherrera]

I found it interesting that you compared Haber's work with that on nuclear weapons, since I did something similar in a radio talk-show recently, commenting on the Oppenheimer movie. I mentioned it as a precedent in which basic science had been used for war purposes. As you mentioned, in both cases the outcome was used with the hope of ending a war. An additional fact: Except for Einstein, most of the German scientists supported the use of chemical weapons.

[@Adecto]

The pace of your explanations and narrations is great, very pleasant to listen!

[@MrBosor]

Absolutely one of your best videos, and by extension the best content on this platform. Thank you.

[@adamdude]

The ending seems to forget that Haber actively petitioned his company to start creating ammonia for explosives and then he actively worked to create chemical weapons. This isn't a case of "He didn't know it would be used this way". He knew full well what he was making.

[@vegangence7081]

:O

[@CyberKakarot]

I believe this was included in the original version of the video

[@ngwoo]

Yeah, I don't like the revisionism on display here. Haber was eager to see his nation's enemies put to death. Funny how he could only see the evil in these acts when his nation began putting his own people to death.

[@mikeciul8599]

True - he believed he could save lives by killing, just as my grandfather believed that his work on the Manhattan Project saved lives by ending World War II (which was a lie - Japan had already offered the same terms of surrender earlier in the year). From what I've read, Haber's ideas about war were simplistic and outdated even for his time. If I remember correctly, he argued with Einstein about the ethics of using science to develop weapons. I believe he didn't know chemical weapons would be used to commit genocide beyond the battlefield, but that might be due to denial, wishful thinking, or lack of imagination.

[@wavion2]

Yeah, that was made abundantly clear in the video. Complaining that he didn't repeat it in the conclusion is a little petty.

[@naveedsegments]

In last... your talks won my heart. Brother this is your greatest of greatest video ever. Acknowledge that

[@Withing_]

Regarding the talk at the end: I think it's fair to think highly about his accomplishments, while still thinking negatively about his intentions at points in his life. Simplifying it further to "are scientists heroes or villains" I think can be dangerous, and it should be noted that while there are times scientists don't know what they're stepping into, there are certainly arguably negative or positive aspects to how each individual chooses to continue to act.

[@MrTandtrollet]

Demonitized!? for what!? KZbin....

[@racheldoden413]

Snatoms do not need to be $100 😭

[@FFxGP]

😐 wtf

[@ThePretender1]

How youtube is destroying itself and amazing content creators like you is beyond me. Its about time rumbble steps up and improve the platform.

[@soundscape26]

Rumble is a cesspool.

[@daniel1RM]

Nebula?

[@stevoofd]

Very powerful episode. I hope you do more of these history dives into scientific paradigm shifts, they are some of my favorite subjects!

[@NazrulIslam-jp8bc]

Man your explanation, one of the finest teacher i came across.

[@ShahzeenFatima26]

The original video was the first video that I ever watched from Varitasium.... so sad that it got restricted 😔

[@WarrenPostma]

Why was this video age restricted? KZbin has lost the plot. Educational/historical material should not be censored to reduce it's accuracy and historicity.

[@thomasmushi6304]

The most educative and sombering video I've watched from Veritasium! Don't stop making these videos. If you stop making them, someone else will.

[@thomasmushi6304]

On a side note, this story really brings home the melancholic scientist as in the Coldplay song.😔

[@HimeshKundal]

What's the difference between both versions?

[@ranch_dressing]

Edited out his wife's suicide.

[@horvathsogranfume658]

​@@ranch_dressingty

[@keshav.mishra]

Re-watching again, as same joy as ago