The Mandela Effect: Multi Verse Theory | Joe Rogan & Rizwan Virk

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Rizwan Virk is an entrepreneur, video game pioneer, film producer, computer scientist, and author of several books, among them "The Simulation Hypothesis" and "The Simulated Multiverse."
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@alexcolon8473
@alexcolon8473 24 күн бұрын
I don’t think this man does a very good job of describing what the Mandela effect is.
@fayewagner743
@fayewagner743 20 күн бұрын
At all
@Elemental_Entity
@Elemental_Entity 15 күн бұрын
He's an idiot
@beardo5858
@beardo5858 3 сағат бұрын
Yea I agree, and I don’t believe half the population is a small number.
@firemanmcdonald
@firemanmcdonald 14 күн бұрын
I dismissed the Mandela Effect as well. Until I saw Fruit of a Loom post a statement that there was never a cornucopia in their logo. Then I found an old Fruit of the Loom shirt in my closet with the cornucopia on it.
@sevenseconds8652
@sevenseconds8652 11 күн бұрын
Show us the shirt!
@chicagolifetv
@chicagolifetv 10 күн бұрын
U copied that lady’s story with her therapist 😂😂
@firemanmcdonald
@firemanmcdonald 2 күн бұрын
@@chicagolifetv what ladies story? I didn’t copy anything. I’m 47 years old. I sleep in old tee shirts bc they’re comfortable. One of the old shirts I have has a cornucopia in the background.
@_tony_masters
@_tony_masters Күн бұрын
@@firemanmcdonalddrop an Imgur link
@ConcienciasDespertando
@ConcienciasDespertando 25 күн бұрын
I remember seeing both shazaam with sinbad and kazaam with shaq, we are def switching between timelines.
@ejohns224
@ejohns224 24 күн бұрын
Same here man born in 92 but that's just the tip of the iceberg tho there's so many more it's insanity
@esuswalk2006
@esuswalk2006 24 күн бұрын
yes, two different movies.
@alSta1
@alSta1 24 күн бұрын
Same here born 1995
@joshstewart186
@joshstewart186 24 күн бұрын
I am there with ya!
@javier.alvarez764
@javier.alvarez764 13 күн бұрын
Same I'm experiencing it also. But why is it happening? Is it possible to consciously shift to another timeline?
@DataJuggler
@DataJuggler 24 күн бұрын
The Fruit of the Loop Cornucopia is the one I am sure I saw. I even remember seeing a Saturday Night Live Skit, acting out the bit. The Gin explain a lot.
@RosinGoblin
@RosinGoblin 24 күн бұрын
Chic Fil A and Fruit of the Loom blows my mind. Also Shorty from Scary Movie saying "I see white people" never happening. And i know Chic Fil A had signs saying "Chik" but this was literally the neon signs on the buildings and cups and websites. I literally remember me and my friends being annoyed by them spelling it "Chic" with no K. Its frustrating
@scumdog666
@scumdog666 16 күн бұрын
*Djinn
@raymondkidwell7135
@raymondkidwell7135 10 күн бұрын
Yes I remember as a kid it had a loom on it, then one day I noticed it didn't anymore I thought they changed the logo. Then I saw online that its a mandela effect that it never had a loom but I specifically remember they had underwear labels and advertising with the loom. Otherwise I wouldn't even know what a loom is and never saw one before except for in this logo. I don't know anywhere else I would have seen anything like that.
@peterpann446
@peterpann446 25 күн бұрын
Monopoly man did have a monical
@user-rx5yk8zo5m
@user-rx5yk8zo5m 24 күн бұрын
That's what I remember as well
@peterpann446
@peterpann446 24 күн бұрын
@user-rx5yk8zo5m im yet to find someone who dont agree with us. I can't take world serious anymore
@esuswalk2006
@esuswalk2006 24 күн бұрын
100% true.
@rednezke7646
@rednezke7646 24 күн бұрын
No it was the Mr. Peanuts guy that wur getting confused with
@wowomg1980
@wowomg1980 24 күн бұрын
Not every set but there was one
@RuinNationGaming
@RuinNationGaming 24 күн бұрын
i remember watching mandela funeral on tv in history class teacher had it on special broadcast on all news networks. then later i remember he became president they even have it in a text book he died
@user-ik8ok9qh2u
@user-ik8ok9qh2u 25 күн бұрын
I'm convinced the Mandella effect is a byproduct of time travel.
@davidbarnes4742
@davidbarnes4742 25 күн бұрын
🥴 or you just remember something differently then it happened
@user-ik8ok9qh2u
@user-ik8ok9qh2u 25 күн бұрын
No, it's definitely time travel.
@syntaxghost3547
@syntaxghost3547 24 күн бұрын
Nope, it’s reality collision caused by the CERN.
@Makabert.Abylon
@Makabert.Abylon 24 күн бұрын
@@user-ik8ok9qh2u Yeah because when having the opportunity to time travel and do precisely what you want. You would go around in time and f with people “creating” the Mandella effect, yup thats what you would do with absolutely power.
@user-ik8ok9qh2u
@user-ik8ok9qh2u 24 күн бұрын
@@Makabert.Abylon No, I don't think it's that. I think it is just some ripple effect of time lines being messed with. It's not intentional, it's more of a byproduct. And bear in mind, I have no idea what it is, I'm just sorta playing with ideas. I obviously realize I don't know what the truth is.
@michaelmask4520
@michaelmask4520 6 күн бұрын
Who remembers Ed McMahon doing the Publishers Clearinghouse commercials with the big check and balloons ? They ran those commercials all the time and was so annoying but they say it never happened. Shazaam was definitely a real movie and the Monopoly guy had a monocle. The Mona Lisa painting is different now she actually has a smile now and not before.
@Atlas65
@Atlas65 15 күн бұрын
Here is a thought. That when you do spiritual work. You update your reality. Meaning you raise your frequency or go into a higher resonance. And if we look at the multiverse theory, where all universes exist at the same time. Every single version of you. In 2013. I had my biggest spiritual leap. From living in a really low vibration, being an alcoholic, with anxiety and depression. And I felt like I had ruined everything, and I could never go back to normal. in the beginning of 2013 I stopped drinking. Feeling miserable after I stopped drinking, three months later I felt like i woke up in a completely new world were everything appeared to me being beautiful. The streets in my city, that few months before had look horrible all of a sudden looked beautiful to me. Also the people around me. Anyways. That is when I first notice something odd. It was in the new that Mandela had died, my first thought was. "hmm.Wasn't he already dead" Then started to notice more things that were different. So my thought is that people like me that remember things in a different way shifted from a parallel universe into this one. Because I clearly remember the Thinker keeping his hand on his forehead. I remembered it since my childhood when my friend was so surprised that I didn't know about this statue when I was 11, so he showed it to me. And Joe Rogan Which remember him having the hand under his chin is from the parallel universe. And you know this universe is made out of vibrations. So we are constantly shifting from one two another, when we change or up our frequency. The thing is that we normally don't shift drastically, so there isn't a big change. But when we have big leaps we shift into a different reality where these tiny detail like Sex in the City (like I remember i growing up) becomes Sex And the City.
@javier.alvarez764
@javier.alvarez764 13 күн бұрын
But how do you consciously shift to a parallel reality/timeline of your choice? What you said do make sense. I know about Bashar and his concept of parallel realities and law of attraction.
@Thatinsuranceguy
@Thatinsuranceguy 24 күн бұрын
You ever think maybe all the Mandela affects are just people time traveling and creating butterfly effects by changing something in their life line that then affects other things and alters our present? I think if time travel has been created in the future then it is already being used now. So we are living a present that is constantly altered by time hopping people or things.
@geosdev
@geosdev 19 күн бұрын
Its' true, but fortunately will no longer occur. I went back in time and prevented time travel from ever being able to be discovered, and now am stuck here for the rest my life with all of you.
@Disinfo321
@Disinfo321 18 күн бұрын
No. Because in the infinite years in the future there would be infinite cases of time travel in our time which would be obvious. In infinite years nobody has came and proved they have time travelled in any capacity? There's infinite years for people to travel here yesterday, and today, and tomorrow, and last week. There'd literally be infinite time travellers every day, and there isn't. So in the infinite years in the future somebody just came here and changed a logo?
@karlnapp7564
@karlnapp7564 24 күн бұрын
Terrence knows the answers to all of this. 👍
@scentnation6223
@scentnation6223 21 күн бұрын
The residue for fruit of the loom is insane. I remember the horn of plenty.
@bostonbakedbean
@bostonbakedbean 14 күн бұрын
Joe, I wish you would revisit this topic. Calling it the Mandela Effect takes away the seriousness of what has really happened. I call it "The Demensional Shift" in order to make people think about what happened, and what continues to happen with the abuse of technology that is going on. Anyhow, the issue is much bigger than any other topic ever discussed anywhere and that's why it's so easily dismissed by those who can't comprehend the seriousness of what's really going on.
@jellyhead8107
@jellyhead8107 Күн бұрын
A lot of people take the update. And apart of that update makes them not want to engage in the subject. It’s 99 per cent of the time an instant shut down. It was sex in the city!!!
@IsThatTheBP
@IsThatTheBP 24 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure I remember this being described as the “Morgan Freeman Effect”
@GiGi94238
@GiGi94238 24 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@TrealTalk187
@TrealTalk187 24 күн бұрын
Google deletes anything off the internet if they dont want it there be it a picture or a sentence etc.
@Kcseales
@Kcseales 24 күн бұрын
Google has nothing to do with Mandela.
@master-of-mind5881
@master-of-mind5881 23 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s what you call agents of the system.
@onyxsensei1052
@onyxsensei1052 16 күн бұрын
It’s legit impossible to remove something from the internet
@master-of-mind5881
@master-of-mind5881 16 күн бұрын
@@onyxsensei1052 says the internet guru lol.
@onyxsensei1052
@onyxsensei1052 16 күн бұрын
@@master-of-mind5881 what?
@forsakenkevtv2265
@forsakenkevtv2265 25 күн бұрын
I remember the "thinker" having his fist under his chin.
@esuswalk2006
@esuswalk2006 24 күн бұрын
Without stopping to think about it, the first thing i did was put my hand to to head. Then i thought about it and i moved it to under my chin...then i became confused and moved it back to my head. I'm positive it was changed.
@Atlas65
@Atlas65 15 күн бұрын
@@esuswalk2006Under the forhead
@analogsignal
@analogsignal 24 күн бұрын
“You can look it up”. Problem there is if it’s a multiverse rift then other things will change as well ie Internet searches even books. Just look at Joel Olsteen (now Joel Osteen, no L…even my phone auto correct it Olsteen but whatever)
@NittyGritty420
@NittyGritty420 19 күн бұрын
Pikachu tail is the craziest one for me
@syntaxghost3547
@syntaxghost3547 24 күн бұрын
CERN caused the Mandela effect, which collided realities.
@Elemental_Entity
@Elemental_Entity 15 күн бұрын
Because CERN is a time machine!
@syntaxghost3547
@syntaxghost3547 15 күн бұрын
@@Elemental_Entity it’s not a time machine it’s a universe collider
@user-ts6yw7rb9c
@user-ts6yw7rb9c 5 күн бұрын
0:27 this guy says the effect is based off a SMALL group oc people remembering something one way, but its actually when a LARGE group remembers
@ufoguyspaceman6137
@ufoguyspaceman6137 24 күн бұрын
The Mandela Effect Conundrum The Mandela Effect made E.T. home phone, and turned my life into the Twilight Zone. Now I'm driving a Ford with the curly Q. It's been here a long time. Can that be true? That pigtail makes no sense to me, but they say it's recorded in history. Berenstein had some funny bears. When the stain appeared, that drew some stares. Ellis Island had a statue called Liberty, But she moved to a new locality. This new Earth is a mystery, time to learn new history. Did Forrest say is or did he say was, the internet is all a buzz. Chartreuse was red as I recall. but now it's green and that ain't all. The stop light had green on top before, now I see red there and so much more. J.C Penney has an extra e. Came from Febreeze, I do believe. The map of the world is not the same. Svalbard to me is a brand new name. New Zealand moved south. That's so lame. The North Pole is gone. Not that's a shame. The Mandela Effect is messing with me. Captain Kirk did say " beam me up Scotty." The Wizard of Oz was so much fun, before the Scarecrow got his gun. People say I'm obsessed, and that might be true, though I can't believe Hitler's eyes turned blue. The sun is white and very bright, I wonder where the moon will be tonight. The lion stopped lying with the lamb, the big bad wolf put us in a jam. Celebrities die and live again, I just can't see how that's happenin'. South America shifted to the east they say, now the Panama Canal goes a different way. Australia moved north, what a blunder, ain't no way that's the land down under. Cuba is bigger than it was before, and the Arctic Ice Cap is no more. Sally Fields used to be the Flying Nun, now her s is gone, like my yellow sun. Tom Cruise lost his shades, and that's ain't right, I know his shirt used to be white. Fruit Loops went away one day. Now Cap'n Crunch is here to stay. Darth said no, but that can't be, Luke is what I heard in that movie. The Monopoly man lost his monocle, so I have to wonder, where did it go. Mona Lisa got a name and a smile, the Thinker moved his hand for a while. Dolly had braces, that's a fact. Maybe a flip flop will bring them back. The Wicked Witch says fly, fly, fly, when her scary monkeys fill the sky. If your memories don't match what you see, you're in the Outer Limits, stuck here with me. The Mandela Effect took a hold of me, altered some things in my reality. Land masses out of place, here and there, people once deceased, now alive I swear. Movies I saw many times before, had altered and shocked me to the core. Songs I listened to in my youth, were not the same, that is the truth. What is this place, what put me here? I must be strong, not give in to fear. kzbin.infooH9hlh1mUtc kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4fFZYJ-jJyWpKs kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4PGqZ2pg52tj5Y
@user-bw2zt5jd9u
@user-bw2zt5jd9u 8 күн бұрын
Bravo!
@FracturedReality
@FracturedReality 20 күн бұрын
We're in a simulation that's breaking down and can no longer self-correct thus the Mandela Effect.
@Flat_Earth_Addy
@Flat_Earth_Addy 16 күн бұрын
no
@richardb6068
@richardb6068 25 күн бұрын
I remember shazaam. Shaq was a genie
@bloatedsodium7301
@bloatedsodium7301 25 күн бұрын
I remember in I Dream Of Genie, Shaq made love to her and said, wham bam thank you mizzam.
@analogsignal
@analogsignal 24 күн бұрын
That was KAZAM..different movie
@richardb6068
@richardb6068 24 күн бұрын
@@analogsignal ohh ya
@RosinGoblin
@RosinGoblin 24 күн бұрын
Chic Fil A and Fruit of the Loom blows my mind. Also Shorty from Scary Movie saying "I see white people" never happening. And i know Chic Fil A had signs saying "Chik" but this was literally the neon signs on the buildings and cups and websites. I literally remember me and my friends being annoyed by them spelling it "Chic" with no K. Its frustrating
@user-zx8si1zy5e
@user-zx8si1zy5e 24 күн бұрын
New Mandela Effect ・The cover over the front wheel of the bicycle has become shorter in front. ・"Godzilla vs. Hedorah" Eyes of Hedorah single eye memory ・Iwo Jima is a memory of US territory(Japanese territory since 1968) ・Cerberus has two heads of memory(Three heads are standard)
@jordan53187
@jordan53187 25 күн бұрын
Was expecting them to bring up the Jordans logo Mandela effect. Myself and everyone I’ve spoken to remembers it being Michael Jordan doing the splits on a dunk wearing basketball shorts a jersey and basketball shoes. But if you look at it now it’s like joggers and converse or something.
@NittyGritty420
@NittyGritty420 19 күн бұрын
Pikachu tail is a really weird one
@svennarula129
@svennarula129 24 күн бұрын
Favorite one is the Moonraker scene with Dolly smiling at Jaws. I think the phenomenon has to do with psychological association, i.e., we remember certain major events/images/words as they would make sense but oftentimes are expectations are out of line with reality.
@esuswalk2006
@esuswalk2006 24 күн бұрын
nope, you are using a crutch right now to process two divergent thoughts - cognitive dissonance is what you are experiencing. the Mandela Effect is 100% real.
@svennarula129
@svennarula129 24 күн бұрын
@@esuswalk2006So we’re remembering something from an alternate timeline that is?
@svennarula129
@svennarula129 24 күн бұрын
Ofc it’s a real phenomenon but you’re saying that our memories, in this case, are from an alternative reality?
@droho7597
@droho7597 23 күн бұрын
SHE HAD BRACERS
@creativekoala9721
@creativekoala9721 24 күн бұрын
I think the reason people think there is a 'lion laying down with the lamb' is from the Elvis version of Precious Lord take my hand. There is a line in the song that says it. And maybe people think the song is scriptural?
@hysantino_
@hysantino_ 18 күн бұрын
Him stating off by saying a " small group of people" is bs...thousands of people remember some of these.
@Flat_Earth_Addy
@Flat_Earth_Addy 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. Millions.
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 23 күн бұрын
The girl without braces in moonraker is mine, i remember talking to my parents about her braces and we agreed her and jaws smiled as they both had metal teeth. Its even been copied in commercials. But the scene now she has no braces.
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 14 күн бұрын
My farther back in the 80s would tease my sister's girlfriend because when she got braces he started to call her Dolly , but not no more! She never had braces, just wish he was alive because he would of never believe it! Those are the incidentes that you can't fool people because there's no way to even give a answer to!
@laneneal3510
@laneneal3510 19 күн бұрын
In my Sunday school class they painted Noah and the Ark and on a wall was the Lion and Lamb with a verse and I n one of our workbooks was the same pic and we studied what it meant.
@gnisis562
@gnisis562 24 күн бұрын
simulation theory and mandela effect. The only way we can tell is if something has slightly changed.
@sirleroyale4412
@sirleroyale4412 9 күн бұрын
I actually grew up with a curious George stuffed animal as a baby boy and he didn’t have a tail folks 🙁
@RMJerich0
@RMJerich0 24 күн бұрын
Member ufc 151? That Jones-Hendo fight
@dallyb6449
@dallyb6449 24 күн бұрын
Don't start with that I'm still bothered lol
@Youmightknow111
@Youmightknow111 24 күн бұрын
What about it??
@hestermontgomery9477
@hestermontgomery9477 5 күн бұрын
The guy got run over by the tank! It was horrific!
@crazboy21
@crazboy21 7 күн бұрын
Sinbad did play a genie
@Elemental_Entity
@Elemental_Entity 15 күн бұрын
Its not a small group of people,its more.like.mosy the population!
@michaeldelsalto2185
@michaeldelsalto2185 24 күн бұрын
I coulda swore it was chik fil a few years ago
@dogpound051
@dogpound051 19 күн бұрын
a mandele effect is not a small amount of people
@jasonmichael5055
@jasonmichael5055 25 күн бұрын
Home alone star dying when he didn’t
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur
@Seekingtruth-mx3ur 23 күн бұрын
What Home Alone Star?
@Atlas65
@Atlas65 15 күн бұрын
You mean the father of Kevin. Yes, that actor is dead.
@honeycombhighlights4919
@honeycombhighlights4919 14 күн бұрын
​@@Atlas65yeah but I remember him dying recently not back in 2017...
@kevinschindele4829
@kevinschindele4829 19 күн бұрын
I rememeber the movie daredevil with ben affleck. I swore the cover of that dvd was him in his mask but nope i couldn't find a dvd like that but thats how i rememeber it
@TommyDuster-ml2qp
@TommyDuster-ml2qp 24 күн бұрын
Shazaam was a real mf movie. & it’s BERNSTEIN BEARS! I USED TO BUY THEM AT THE BOOKFAIR AS A KID. I SHAZAAM a bunch of times as a kid. At my cousins house. I even remember seeing its trailer on the old vhs’s before the actual movie I wanted to see came on. I saw Kazaam with shaq too!
@oluwasanmiorekunrin8882
@oluwasanmiorekunrin8882 19 күн бұрын
The Mandela effect if this is a simulation it’s us jumping between timelines when the simulation has some slight tweaks or updates things change shifting us to different timelines that or it’s a higher power of gaslighting if not a simulation so basically all this stuff does still exist they’re just hiding them
@laneneal3510
@laneneal3510 19 күн бұрын
The TV show Fringe explains these worlds by acting it out.
@Flat_Earth_Addy
@Flat_Earth_Addy 16 күн бұрын
no
@KarenPlatt-gz4cb
@KarenPlatt-gz4cb 7 күн бұрын
The thing is tho any one remembers in 2020-2022 there was like a really weird vibe about it idk maby I'm just crazy
@NaztyGamingHD
@NaztyGamingHD 13 күн бұрын
Curious George never had a tail. On my mother’s life. I used to watch it everyday till I was 11 and never once saw a tail on him wtf
@cherkovision
@cherkovision 24 күн бұрын
Riddle me this: If genies can change physical objects, but not memories, then why doesn't Nelson Mandela remember being dead? Why don't Stan and Jan Berenstain remember their own name being spelled differently?
@Flat_Earth_Addy
@Flat_Earth_Addy 16 күн бұрын
lol because this guy is an idiot.
@adnanleo3096
@adnanleo3096 22 күн бұрын
In one chapter of the Quran( Rahman), God talks directly to both humans and Jinn. This chapter is used to heal terminal diseases. My mind is blown.
@MartialArtUK
@MartialArtUK 24 күн бұрын
The kung fu monks of shaolin also have the jin , the jin gan. They are 4 giants that created earth some liked humans some didn't, check it out
@deanpeash8953
@deanpeash8953 24 күн бұрын
Joe I'm from Washington but did mushrooms help you through any of this
@Dannykangofficial
@Dannykangofficial 19 күн бұрын
I still don’t know what the Mandela effect is after watching this
@Flat_Earth_Addy
@Flat_Earth_Addy 16 күн бұрын
It's the government changing history within one lifetime.
@ToffeeMush
@ToffeeMush 24 күн бұрын
One thing we often tend to forget is that our memories aren't very good... Sometimes we confuse thoughts as reality when we are really just remembering our thoughts or other people's thoughts that they shared with us. It would be natural to imagine Mandela dieing in prison when you hear he was sentenced to life. It would be natural to imagine what would happen to the Tank man had they just ran him over, when you see the the images for the first time.
@jennifernordlund2691
@jennifernordlund2691 18 күн бұрын
That's a poor explanation, as many people have very detailed memories associated with these effects. For example I've heard many people say they learned what a cornucopia was when they asked their mother what the thing on their underwear label was, or used it as a model when they had to draw one for school. Does it seem likely that thousands of people who don't know each other hallucinated a cornucopia?
@radhached2863
@radhached2863 24 күн бұрын
Joe interview Dominique Vandenberg he's one of the most interesting people alive today legendary French foreign legion 2 Rep sniper independent soldier for SAD NATO black ops during the war in Yugoslavia. The man who created all the battles for gangs of New York and the star of the mercenary and independent film he funded with his own money from pink misting people when he was a soldier of fortune
@droho7597
@droho7597 23 күн бұрын
Disney's Timkerbell. Go figure.
@user-pf3ls9pp8o
@user-pf3ls9pp8o 15 күн бұрын
Terrence Howard was never a genius Joe!!!!!
@tscheuer111in
@tscheuer111in 24 күн бұрын
The lion is representative of a lot of different stories of the Bible and the lamb as well ... None of those were very good and you started it by saying you went deep on this and wrote a second book
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 23 күн бұрын
He seemed to want to explain it but didn't want to appear nuts and believes it all, he kinda hedged his bets. He clearly realises when hundreds of thousands of not millions remember specific details it goes beyond "ah they misremembered"
@matthewbogue
@matthewbogue 16 күн бұрын
Furit of the loom
@skylight1order2008
@skylight1order2008 24 күн бұрын
This is crazy stuff but I totally believe in it. For example, I can never remember Tyson Fury being a boxer and winning world titles up to like 2 years ago. I have no recollection of him whatsoever. I remember boxers from the 80s, 90s but not him. Not even a clue. I don't know if anybody else has that about him.
@LeRomeSwiss
@LeRomeSwiss 24 күн бұрын
CERN
@wyattwalker2746
@wyattwalker2746 16 күн бұрын
Mandela effect is just people remembering details wrong on things they never cared about.
@jaxs0004
@jaxs0004 23 күн бұрын
We all may be dumber after listening to this videos
@Flat_Earth_Addy
@Flat_Earth_Addy 16 күн бұрын
That's not what the Mandela Effect is! But it's not real!
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