The Manosphere Taught Me About Retention - Kevin Samuels Started this Conversation (Episode 78)

[@delvinking5151]

I swear I've said for years... the unchecked narcissism in our women is the biggest issue in our community. They think they are so far above us and are perfect even in their flaws.

[@KevinSmith-xt8xr]

apparently therapy is for men only right 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@qp1212]

I agree. Look at the music and media messages that are out there. There is so much emphasis on n taking women as they are and loving them for all of their imperfections that the ones they can fix, they don’t even want to fix them because it’s accepted. One would think this level of grace and acceptance would make these women more meek, humble and modest when it comes to thier dealings with men but they are more audacious, loud and unpleasant than ever!

[@LBE-Vanguard]

Couldn't have said it better. Most are extremely damaged but are super self-righteous and believe they're infallible.

[@63112jg]

The ongoing narrative is women often say that men need to take them as they are but at the same state that men need to man up or level up. Now women are willing to self improve, but it to the level of what makes them happy or where they feel they should be. Not according to what a possible mate might want or need. Men are always held to the standards of improving to benefit women. Women are held to the standards of improving to benefit themselves.

[@DavidSanders]

The more you get women to talk, the more they tell on themselves. She confirms that the same things that also lead our young Brothas to becoming statistics, is the same thing women look for during a great deal of their lives. Men it's our duty to understand our purpose in life earlier, build on that and then hoping that you care about our community, find a right minded woman to make productive balanced black families with.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@AngellMessiah]

Why can't black men be individuals and not have to fit a stereotype to be noticed. We all have unique personalities

[@jameskent8165]

We are still mammals at the end of the day. Males do what they need to reproduce and pass their genes on. A woman can be a bad person or a good person and reproduce but men don’t have that luxury. We can be the nicest guy and still not reproduce. Great leader but still not get the family to lead.

[@MrBenji1059]

Good question....beats me lol

[@AngellMessiah]

@@jameskent8165 and that's why we expand our options.

[@albertrobinson4133]

That’s the question of the year right there

[@jameskent8165]

@@MrBenji1059 with a passport my brother. There’s melanin outside these borders. Submission beyond these waters.

[@LoneWolf90Xiaolin]

I appreciate this women’s honesty and I must say this really shows why men have multiple wives and not a soulmate

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 she is not honest the wall hit her hard then she woke up, after the ship sailed what sensible man wants to wife a single mom over 30

[@LoneWolf90Xiaolin]

🤣🤣🤣that’s why I said I appreciate her honesty because she admitted that she was Ho until she realized she wants a good man after chasing the worse types of men.

[@abubakarrbangura4450]

Multiple wives indeed

[@imperator8657]

She deserves all the swag and excitement she wants. Her future is "Future". The more you listen , the easier it is to see that the modern woman does not want a family that includes productive men. I think men need to listen to what women's actions are screaming and act accordingly.

[@Khurr]

Facts 💯

[@gregmork2778]

How is saying be well rounded is to be like Future? Wasn't Kevin Samuels trying to teach men some things to attract more women?

[@bigwill9421]

FACTS

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@TheJaybass32]

...that is her nature. Her body craves Future. Its just the way it is. A woman would "naturally" prefer to be Futures one night stand than be in a year long relationship with Russell. It is nature. Even in the animal kingdom only the top males get to mate.

[@qp1212]

This woman was exhausting. She advocates for men to Develop their toxic masculinity early so women can complain about them later on in life😂

[@vincenzomauricio7090]

Perfect description

[@stinkreezy2791]

Exactly 😆 more single mothers

[@albertrobinson4133]

Smgdh

[@carlforpresidentanthony4574]

shes trying fam.. thats all we ask

[@qp1212]

@@carlforpresidentanthony4574 no that’s not good enough. These women need to do instead of trying. They have gotten away too long with low expectation/no expectations or standards at all. Leave these women with their bad choices and don’t pay them any mind

[@user-gt1kd9rv1w]

Watching this as a black woman who wasn’t raised this way, of how apparently quite a few blk women think about men, is absolutely insane & heart breaking to md

[@jamallkelley3806]

Naw teach the men to stay in their purpose and find a woman smart enough, raised well enough to recognize what a stable man is. Leave those other women to the streets.

[@Jamfar777]

*slow clap* We got to stop trying to save fools.

[@albertrobinson4133]

@@Jamfar777 unfortunately fools are the majority

[@Seancarter2010]

Amen

[@Seancarter2010]

@@albertrobinson4133 then let them be with fools.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@ohardest]

Trying to get women to swoon over the stable, disciplined guys like Russel Wilson over the bad boys like future is like trying to get a child to look at the vegetable aisle in the grocery store the same way the child looks at the ice cream truck.

[@Ben-Ken]

😂😂

[@jameskent8165]

I agree but children have the accountability of children and men have the accountability of adults. Shouldn’t the women who have the privilege/power of adults have the responsibility too.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

That ice cream just hits different right now, until you deal with the consequences in the long term.

[@albertrobinson4133]

@@themarathoncontinues4211 dam that’s a good way of looking at it

[@ryanhopkins2767]

💯 💯

[@U4ia28]

I respect the fact that she admitted outright that womens mindsets are inherently narcissistic as it pertains to their ability to get men to fvck them vs actually being able to KEEP a man because HE WANTS TO STAY/KEEP YOU AROUND. With that said, it’s not what women are attracted to that men are shaming. It’s the CONSTANT COMPLAINING ABOUT said men they’re still attracted to despite how they end up after being with them. As well as how these men end up representing ALL MEN when women say “men ain’t sh!t. Lastly I find it rich how she’s saying men should be “more well rounded” aka being a Russell Wilson with the edge and swag of future, yet come to the table being almost entirely ONE DIMENSIONAL.

[@albertrobinson4133]

Speak 🗣

[@Leandro-X.2025.Alkebulan]

If you become Pookie and Ray Ray you will have major success with BW. I don't get it, why don't all ya'll turn into Pookies and Rays Rays and FUTURE?? It's not rocket science. They keep telling you what they are attracted to! You can even pretend to be Pookie just to get them women, then you'll get the WAP, and return home happy. Like Meerkat says, Simples!

[@Leandro-X.2025.Alkebulan]

Don't they say ''The World Is A Stage'' ?

[@objectivelybiased8006]

Mic drop

[@U4ia28]

@@Leandro-X.2025.Alkebulan That’s not feasible for everyone tho. Faking it til you make it can only get you so far until the mask is exposed. Besides, I don’t know about you, but pretending to be something we’re not is exhausting to keep up and maintain.

[@doclew28]

This is sad. What she is saying is that bruhs need to be FAKE and not true to themselves in order to get a woman to see them as valuable. So forget about what you have accomplished. Forget about who you were raised to be. Forget about being a quality dude. You have to prioritize being "fun" in a woman's eyes to get a woman. You have to "fake having an edge" to attract her. She is taking the responsibility away from women by saying they should not be shamed for being attracted to bad boys and shunning the more responsible dudes. And it SHOULD be the opposite. And THAT is why we have the manosphere to tell us that if Black women don't like the true you... leave their asses to be alone. Find a woman who values you as a PERSON and not just as ENTERTAINMENT for them. Bcuz your person and responsibility and stability and accomplishments are going to be what gives you a quality life. Not prioritizing her fun. Screw all that. Her desire for fun is NOT sustainable. This girl has a beautiful package. But in the end she is just spouting that same ol bullshit. And that's coming from a 20+ year married dude with a married 27 year old step daughter and a single 20 year old daughter in college and a 17 year old son whose were ALL put up on game early.

[@mogray90]

🎯🎯 exactly. And it will be these same type of BW who after life has pummeled them into the ground with debt, pookies kids & emotional issues they start looking for these "lame /corny" BM. They are livid when they see a BM with a white, latina or Asian woman.

[@phenomenal-xv4ey]

She is trying to get more men to be like Future. Men be yourself, find those who accept you for who you are, you will grow into yourself. Women want Future's because they have no personality and need a man to provide excitement.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@63112jg]

The irony is that my sista gave some good advise on how the nice guys can be more like Future ( who doesn't want them for marriage) instead of saying that maybe women should learn to appreciate the qualities earlier that the nice guys have that might be willing to marry them. We are telling women that they are fine the way they are and that men have to adjust to appease them.

[@acct4600]

she said both those things if you listened. she said women need to unlearn their nature & go for good men. she said that. but a lot of guys in the comments weren't listening.

[@TheJaybass32]

@@acct4600 u don't think women should unlearn their nature... You can't negotiate attraction. It's not natural for average guys and nice guys to get women. It's female nature to share the guy they think is tops

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@63112jg]

@@acct4600 Actually, I was listening. I said if girls appreciate nice guys traits EARLIER....She did said that girl need to appreciate nice guys traits. But my point is if women appreciate those traits earlier in life instead of appreciating them after they had the men like Future....then then could possibly be better off.

[@MarcheRenoir]

I find it amazing every time I hear a Black woman say: A Black man can't tell her about Black men. That SIMPLE PROCLAMATION is completely insane and they think it SOUNDS INTELLIGENT..!

[@sky1luv793]

I'm glad how truthful she is. She proves that most of these women are not worth your time.

[@albertrobinson4133]

Straight up 💯🤣

[@Incognitoblue]

I like how at the end of the video she basically admitted that women will marry the guy who gives them security but will cheat on him with the guy who makes them feel good, with what she described as an internal joke amongst women. You brothers stay vigilant and stay safe out there.

[@MauriceNovembre]

The saddest and most refreshing part about this video is @ 22:02 - The truth is sobering. She is an avatar for the women we love but who don't love us...Heart breaking... Pick your faction brothers. Blue, Red, Purple or Black Pill. Welcome to Raccon City. I hope you make it to out.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@digi9ten]

Conflating attention with retention. Damn. She's lucky she learned the difference at 29. Uhh, she lost me when she started talking about teaching a Russell to be more like Future. I'm not sure she learned enough from the manosphere. 🤔

[@digi9ten]

She brought up the nuclear physicist. He went on the pineapple show as a joke. He was already in a long term relationship. He didn't really want that cheerleader (I think that's what she did).

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@Ben-Ken]

Expecting a guy to be in the books, working and grinding to set a foundation for his family and also have swag like Future is like expecting a top NFL player to also be well rounded in organic chemistry and French. It's possible but unlikely. People only have so much time in each day to be great at something. Women always complain that men want a chef, maid, teacher, and pron star in one woman. Don't they see the hypocrisy?

[@albertrobinson4133]

Perfectly put 👌🏿 Mens expectations are so much more realistic by far

[@qp1212]

You forgot a spiritual pastor too. These women want a good Christian man who can kill and slang in the streets, can run a Fortune 500 company, family and is right with the Lord😂😂😂

[@Seancarter2010]

Nope they don't have to because life will bring them a steady stream of dudes who will go along with their nonsense in search of the box

[@Mike_M.]

We really don't even ask black women to be all that in mass, it's mostly in their heads.

[@showcase0525]

I peeped that too. Asking to fuse the most perfect aspects between 2 to 3 dudes into 1, while being actually able to deliver on everything like 2 to 3 dudes would. I dont think they see it.

[@LionelRWilson]

“Be more fun/ have more personality…go”. Very specific advice you got there.

[@augustbernard3396]

Men who idolize and put women who are 8s, 9s, and 10s (in looks) on pedestals - never dated one. Those type of women have had so much attention, especially on social media, that it’s almost impossible for them to be sane. I’m actually not even blaming them. Anyone who has 1000s of admirers reaching out to them a week is going to be delusional. It’s a shitty feeling walking in a place with a beautiful woman, seeing all the looks of approval from other dudes, and looks of intrigue from other women, while knowing that beautiful woman you’re with is a pain in the ass.

[@jimmystrokes34]

Preach

[@mayankingrevisited8815]

Black women told the biggest lie of all time when they said they want a Russell Wilson type of man

[@sjf3785]

I don't think some men shame women for being attracted to the type of guys like Future. The shaming comes in when women don't own the outcomes of being with guys like Future.

[@albertrobinson4133]

Exactly, then they want the steak laced “lame” no please keep the same energy

[@1D4ever]

Teach the good solid men to be thugs, drug dealers, and degenerates deadbeats great plan.

[@waynegoldmanjr1708]

This is the best episode yet. Super banger. Lots and lots of great information! Couple of eye openers as well. Def got me thinking

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@growthtalk]

While I appreciate her honesty……we are fucked as a people.😐

[@RodneyE.9491]

Most definitely!

[@albertrobinson4133]

💯

[@roguepill]

Completely fucked, we're just chittering back and forth watching the fire with no real urgency as a group to fix the issues. We're either in denial or delusional to not understand that in less than a few generations we will be just "people of color"

[@Remember-Death]

The masses, in general, have always been fucked. But, some Black folks will make it out of this madness. Most wont, but enough will.

[@DW-hy8cv]

Interesting that she said teach the men who aren't as successful with women how to be more successful when asked about women making poor choices in men. Removes accountability from women yet again.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@marcusthomas6998]

Blk women listen to respond, not to understand. Every man isn't trying to push to travel and have things outside his means. A house,car,job,savings and fun with his friends and in life,maybe raise a family. But women want what Instagram has.

[@ReonK]

I find it interesting that she gives advice to "nice guys" to be dynamic on their approach but women can remain static on how they select.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@Papadidas]

Damn she’s being super duper honest. This is great to hear actually. Actually means there’s more hope then we realize.

[@edisonanthonio132]

(19:10)If we normalize vain characteristics in black women, the madness that ensues would doom us all. Adam did exactly what this woman preaches and mankind lost paradise. She advocates we teach men to run after success, bad boy attitude crowned in unfaithfulness (the Future type) because it's what black women are attracted to. Does that sound right?! If black women are attracted to dirt should men have to do so too (and they say women are more matured than men)?! The men who fall for this only have themselves to blame. Never compromise your manhood for a piece of ass. Never loose your birth right for a morsel of bread. Let these Futures keep getting all the women, they are only weeding out the bad ones for you good men out there. Remember, what's yours is yours. All in due time.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@facts_ops]

This is by far the most open minded woman Iv seen and heard on this platform 👏🏽👏🏽🔥

[@636racer]

15:10 i would push back on her argument that women only know how to pick bad men, if they know one sector of men are bad then they also know the other sector of men that dont fall in that sector…they just want what they want

[@acct4600]

if you watch the whole thing, she said that toward the end.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@365MajorPaper]

What did I just watch ? I'm soo confused 😕, did she just state that all men want to be the future type . Did a 30+ year old woman who admitted her wrong doing with picking men , wasting time , and disregarding advice from her own father just recommended good guys to be like future . So she can in one hand self reflect on being wrong about her choice of men and then in the very same breathe state she wants the wrong guy again.. I love my black women but boy this mindset makes me want to run for the boarder.

[@jayeverything]

Get your passport guys. These women are lost, don't save em💯🙌🏾

[@albertrobinson4133]

Facts 🤣👌🏿

[@Da-1Man-Gang]

They attracted to the Future/Rapper/Thugs type and they know that has no longevity....I'm moving out of the US next year.....😃 Why try to love something that will never truly love you back until they 45+.....that the definition on insanity and I guess alot of our black men are just insane 🤣🤣🤣

[@roguepill]

I'm with you #SYSBM

[@WeltB]

Those guys that are on their purpose early in life don't need to change ish! You can't have every damn thing. If you are going to have a brother with all of those positive attributes chances are he will be missing a little swag and charisma. He can pick a little bit of that up as he ages and matures but that puedo-hyper alpha persona... no... leave this mess where it is. They need to be who they are and the women that want to get to know them will. The women who miss out will be just like the ones before them... coming to those great guys later in life with their head down and their tail tucked between their legs after realizing they chose stupidly. By then it will be too late. Instead of trying to get these brothers who are on their purpose to gain more "Future" characteristics I think it would be more advantageous to saturate the young girls with cautionary tale after cautionary tale of women who dissed the great guys and suffered the consequences. Not just a story here and there... a flood of cautionary tales.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@OthoWilliamsJr]

@@johncapo2843 Agree 100000000000000000000000000000000% on NOT CHANGING. Exactly, he Matures NOR CHANGE for her. He BEcomes the Man he is suppose to Be❗❗

[@freedmansjournal]

Now we need a swag versus no swag conversation.

[@albertrobinson4133]

That shit is so dumb, So does Russel Wilson not have swag??

[@danejefferson4444]

"Swag" is subjective

[@vincenzomauricio7090]

Women have to let go of this 'Corporate Tupac' archetype The bottom line is that no one will possess all the qualities desired by their mate. I'm a married man and I'll say my wife undoubtedly lacks characteristics that I want my ideal mate to have. However she has enough of the qualities that matter that made marrying her worth it. Is she the prettiest, best sex partner or baddest out of everyone I've dated? No, and I still chose her. There's trade offs with anyone you choose to be with. Even the thug guy doesn't have it all which is why women get older and realize how much time they've wasted dealing with them.

[@albertrobinson4133]

Cooperate and Tupac conflict each other like a mf

[@andrewwebster7185]

Damn this was on point…. As men , the majority of us expect realistic outcomes and know that trade-offs are a part of life.

[@vincenzomauricio7090]

@@andrewwebster7185 Yep, the stable man isn't going to fly by the seat of his pants and the guy who flies by the seat of his pants usually isn't going to be stable. Those are usually two totally different types of men and women have to choose wisely

[@Ben-Ken]

This is why they wanted the sexual revolution, so they can sleep with those types without waiting for marriage. It helps for men to be more confident and have standards but young women are attracted to the very things that are the opposite of stability and community; Full body tattoos, Rebellious clothing and hairstyles, slang. The things that will make a man excel in the corporate world are a turn off until she needs his assets later in life. There's nothing we can do to force them back into the patriarchy short of a world war or theocracy. That's why KS was pushing guys to stop simping and giving broken baby mommas a retirement plan. That only shows the next generation that they can do the same.

[@kyleflournoy7730]

It's crazy how the guy that posted that exact same sentiment got crucified online a couple weeks back. You cant claim to want honesty and then be mad when we tell you you aren't Beyonce, Oprah meg the stallion and the Dean of Admissions all at the same time

[@MrMannface]

Women don't understand, Future can get his ass kicked by that quit guy, men know this.

[@vbam62]

This conversation was mind opening thanks

[@DreMedia81]

This video makes me believe women don’t mature faster mentally just physically. Women mature when they don’t get the same attention.

[@owusuFree]

The dark side of the force will ALWAYS be more seductive than the Jedi way. Always. There’s no ‘spin’ that will make the discipline and hard-earned self-awareness of the Jedi more attractive. If the Jedi were focused on marketing, how pathetic would they look?

[@owusuFree]

This might not be clear enough. I just think a man focusing on his purpose, calling, and authority will always be way more powerful than investing time and energy into making himself more palatable to weak-minded people.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@albertrobinson4133]

The best example I use of this is Tupac. The more he became something women loved the more he lost himself, and that image he portrayed while Death Row wasn’t the sole reason for his death but I believe it’s fair to say it played a role in his demise. The real pac was a performance arts grad/poet who was a gentlemen, nothing about that is “lame or corny or lacks personality to me”. These crazy views are conditioned by the system 💯💯

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Always remember that the more attractive the male becomes to females, the more dangerous he is to himself. This occurs across multiple animal species, not just humans. Have to be careful fr

[@albertrobinson4133]

@@themarathoncontinues4211 Wow even animals!?🤣 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@TheJaybass32]

Wow...I never thought about it that way. I agree one hundred and thirty five percent. Well said...

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@albertrobinson4133]

@@johncapo2843 u peep the bs

[@TMRRadio]

Fantastic as always Allen. What I'm hearing, to her last point, is that black women are more attracted to perception and not the reality. The perception of masculinity and not what it actually entails. But then it's weird to me that this is considered a natural instinct and not a learned behavior. Which concerns me mostly because it tells me that long term thinking isn't something that even remotely considered. Which is required for planning for a marriage, a family, etc. So I wonder if the future (no pun intended) is in jeopardy if this is the current and popular line of thinking... - Alex.

[@albertrobinson4133]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@dgo9121]

This is what I observed in my last relationship. She had a fickle short term way of thinking when I got to see who she really was as time passed my desire to marry her faded to the point I fell out of love with her.

[@tonileolion9702]

This was such an awesome interview she made a lot of great points and I loved that u asked what advice to provide to ur daughter ❤❤❤ u can’t say all men aren’t good but u can help her identify the good and bad ones❤ salute 😊

[@infinitymfg5397]

This was interesting, especially the last 10 -12 minutes. I wonder why women don't frame their attraction to future types as a sign of immaturity that is superficial with no real pay off? This is the equivalent of men telling good women that they should act more like city girls so that we can benefit from the best of both worlds. It's a childish way to expect the world to work.

[@JD-tp6ei]

Exactly!!! Well said. A mentally healthy balanced woman would not want a Future.

[@ppearson35N]

Women aren’t shamed for what they’re attracted to. We’re telling you that you’re attracted to it and you’re telling us we’re crazy or we don’t know what we’re talking about.

[@TheJaybass32]

You can't negotiate attraction... Female Nature is undefeated. Her desires are undefeated. They like what they like...No need to unlearn your true desires Ladies... Gentlemen let the pookies have em all, we have better things to do

[@craigevans6736]

Wow. This lady said she 1. Didn’t listen 2. No one can tell her about men 3. I had men around me that I would not want my Son to be 4. Didn’t know or learn the difference between The right/wrong man 5. Don’t know the difference between men wanting sex vs. commitment 6. It’s the man fault 7. She didn’t listen to her own father about the men she was dating but she dated them anyway 7 common traits of Single for life women SHE HAS TIMED OUT

[@jl6523]

Bruh -- I'm a guy and I'm telling you dudes like you ain't s***. You looking for "gotcha" quotes. Guarantee you, you are the kind of guy that messes these women up in the first place, quick to point the finger, but not able to see how you are bringing disaster to the world. Shutup man.

[@roguepill]

Nice summary!

[@craigevans6736]

African American women. This is a classic example of how time is not on your side. You’re window to meet and retain a husband and/or creator life is short by design. God knows what he is doing. Wake up and stop wasting time having random sexual encounters and bringing those experiences to your newest relationship. You All Are Losing.

[@Lovebrix99]

No we are not losing, the only black women that are losing are the ones that only date black men and want to be married.

[@afropluto5625]

Women also assume they have great personalities and are fun to talk to themselves. It’s probably an even split between men and women most of us just aren’t that special / interesting

[@kiad.2552]

She’s spot on! 💯 Black parents, especially fathers should teach their girls to identify good men like themselves. Stoking fear and mistrust in men will keep their daughters alone and unprotected once they leave the parent’s home. Stop focusing on the negative men.

[@fronttowardenemy7972]

For productive, intelligent men on their purpose you have to ask yourself is the woman you're spending time with worth it. Nothing wrong with valuing your time and energy.

[@truthseekingfreethinker5214]

If an intelligent man is really being honest with himself, when dealing with women, he is essentially always wasting his time but in relationships compromises must be made or at least that's what they say.

[@alexika9981]

And this is why I never thought about ever being in a relationship for 24 years on this earth. I always thought of it as a waste of time.and being in med school is not helping.

[@robertfant4628]

She makes a very good point studying women is a good thing to do, but if your woman needs you to act in a way that is a un-natural to you such as how future does then she isn't the right woman for you, staying on your purpose should be what attracts her, if she's attracted to future that means she will never truly be yours. [Confidence is a involved act that applies to many areas if he chooses not to be involved in certain areas where she feels she wants a future like environment she's chaotic]. You owe no one the right to turn you from a decent person into a cartoonish or clownish figure of a person. Human decency should not require him to be something other than what he is, maybe that's what another woman of another race can see that black women are failing to respond to, that isn't the black man's fault that is her confined view of what a black man is! That's on her to fix within her own characterization of the black man. As if he is a easily made construction that can easily be made, he is not a [STRAW MAN without a brain], he is not a [TIN MAN without a heart] please don't talk about my social group of men as if [you can find body parts down at the LOCAL BUILD a BLACK MAN SEMINAR for women]. When logically analyzed this come off as a attached form of fantasy. The truly in-depth quality of this conversation should revolve around can't you bring-out and see the differences in the quality that make his idiosyncrasy, the same as a woman who true needs are meet by him for a woman of color with the same idiosyncrasies there are male to female mental parts that match in ways that are subconscious that she never say to other women or man by he fits, [not everyone wants some SOCIAL or SEXUAL LUNATIC in their life].

[@fronttowardenemy7972]

The saying is "You may think she's yours......but the 'y' is silent!

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@Seancarter2010]

This poor woman is suffering from a lot of unresolved trauma when she thinks Future is an archetype men should be studying to become. Can we also notice that no other community revere's men like that. They don't have women in their 30s advocating for men to be like the irresponsible ones. She's never seen a healthy relationship to emulate. I feel bad for her

[@gregmork2778]

Whenever people speak the truth, they're either dealing with trauma or like women kept calling Kevin Samuels gay. All you have to do to see what she's saying is true is get up from behind the computer, go outside and experience life. Kevin Samuels was telling us the same thing, dress nice, be more charismatic, have confidence, go practice talking to women, be more sociable, and build social capital. What's so hard about this?

[@bkvintagecorp]

Men see through the futures, women don’t. Hey women act like they are sooo smarter than us smh. Make it make sense

[@jontelmurphy5996]

Do women really think that most men want to be like Future, is she serious ?

[@bobbysealejunior6590]

Yeah, that threw me off…

[@jontelmurphy5996]

@@bobbysealejunior6590 , She said it like he was a role model that man should aspire to be, I would say the exact opposite, this is the problem with our women they dont value the things that really matter

[@bobbysealejunior6590]

@@jontelmurphy5996 exactly. For instance, I like big booty ghetto chics, and I didn’t mind smashing them from time to time (which can cause a lot of problems in itself) but I also new nothing good came from dating them. I didn’t get on KZbin and tell pristine goodie two shoe chics they needed to act and look more like the ghetto chics…our women just don’t get it.

[@derrickscott672]

Did she say teach. I had to play that over. Majority of Black Women look for a Man who they can argue with and he verbally abuse her. Cheat on her etc. They love drama. If they don't have drama. They lose their minds and become Miserable and Hateful

[@billwill1584]

This woman is being very honest. I have always said, money keeps the woman living with you without being with you.

[@leeburney425]

kinda sad. swag is the fentanlyn for black women..i guess an engineer, lawyer, and accountant is only sexy post wall...people this is why we are in strong last place, loosing, .

[@alexika9981]

These men are not waiting. They’ll gladly find their mixed, or non black baddie whose young and wants to marry them.

[@albertrobinson4133]

Yessir 💯

[@amanslife360]

GUYS: NEVER TAKE ADVICE FROM THIS TYPE OF WOMEN --- EVER. FOCUS ON PURPOSE - ASK THE CREATOR OR AT LEAST YOURSELF 'WHAT AM I HERE TO ACOMPLISH AND ACHIEVE. THEN DO IT. The female you select needs to be a help for that purpose. AVIOD BIG MOUTH GALS, 304's, MASCULINE WOMAN, INDEPENDENT WOMEN AND MOST WOMEN WITH KIDS

[@82Dominique]

Future is not the prototype we all want to be like. Russell is successful. Russ is more balanced than future. By being a Russell, I avoided the women and issues of a Future. Every black man is not just chasing after females. What I look back, delayed success saved me from being a future with ,19 kids and 15 baby nomas. Thank God and bravo the Russell prototype. Beta or not. This young beta became a happy sigma way before I knew the difference. I never took the opportunity to be an alpha. I liked me. I accepted the rejections. I was rejected by those who probably would have used or destroyed me Whatever society wants to call Russell, I'll be that. He is a success in ways Future could never be. Pitty the fool who would call Russell a failure What are your standards Russell seems very happy, with a bright future to me Bless God & Hurrah!

[@gregmork2778]

She's saying overall, most women gravitate towards the future type more, no one is saying that Russell isn't that guy either. In real life, most people are more balanced. Future is extreme.

[@amaliomar]

16:46 Facts, we "unlearn" natural instincts to live in a society all the time. An inability to do this is what fills our jails and necessitates our welfare system.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@TheSockbottom]

Where is the full video bro? You keep uploading half videos everytime

[@legion1630]

How do you unlearn nature..its actually almost impossible

[@BranyeSouf]

I wish more brothers would have the courage to tell some of these women to their faces that we DO want more than just pwussy….you just don’t offer much more than that. The women that have more than that to give are usually snapped up early by smart,resourceful men.

[@albertrobinson4133]

Snatched up faster than a PS5 on black Friday at Best Buy

[@QUNYC7]

Leave these type of BW on the curb with this type of mentality.

[@allenoverall7361]

My issue with teaching men to be more successful with women will only lead to men getting more women.. if you teach someone how to get women who's never had women why would he stop at one woman.. 🤔

[@DonDeBaron]

Darnnnn why is the convo always cutoff. Was realy enjoying this talk

[@albertrobinson4133]

Darn Cliffhangers lol

[@AngelInAHoodie]

When can we go back to slapping for MENTAL HEALTH?

[@albertrobinson4133]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@smokeyjail4394]

If she is not adding value to your life, then why be with her? If she's subtracting value from your life, then run the hell away.

[@GB2139]

All bs , she doesn’t believe ANYTHING SHE SAID, she lied 95% of time! 😩🙏🏽

[@jaym6126]

Is she?? , She may actually believe what leaves her mouth

[@mula_da_mad_rapper]

This is wild she thinks we wanna be future this is wild you gotta give some push back on these women when they come for the good guys if they want to be with future go be baby mama number 9

[@Jakyjoseph]

Men should be taught what women want? To be more like Future? Is this is what I’m seriously hearing here?

[@tonyfreeman4249]

It is impossible to turn a Russell Wilson into a Future, to suggest such a thing is ridiculous - as it further perpetuates the belief of the "perfect person". Always searching for this happy medium is akin to Disney fairytales. There's room for both Russell's and Future's of this world and they both have their advantages. Life is about choices and tradeoffs.

[@CoachTae26]

I don’t think they’re shaming. Guys are tired of y’all complaining about your bad choices. Then her answer was for guys to become future. We need to teach men to stop saving you broads!

[@amaliomar]

I was disturbed from her opening statement. "Teach the less successful men how to be more successful" You idiot, the way for good men to be more successful with you idiots is to be a negative representation of themselves. Even his little brother knows that at 17/18. This is going to be a long one. As always we thank you brother for respectfully listening to these voids for us.

[@carlforpresidentanthony4574]

Fantastic conversation. We need to talk with more ladies like this who sees both sides

[@BeyondmyselfIsrael]

Bruh I’m really getting tight about the fake hair. We gotta do better.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

Idek why it bothers y’all that much tbh. If she’s bad she’s bad, it won’t matter. If she isn’t bad, that’s when you start talking about fake hair

[@albertrobinson4133]

@@themarathoncontinues4211 believe it or not that really means a lot to some men can’t say I blame him 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

@@albertrobinson4133 interesting, but WHY? It doesn’t even cross my mind if I’m attracted to her, I only notice when I’m not. Or if the hair isn’t black coloured, I can’t mess with the weird colours. Otherwise I don’t care. Other women have fake things they do all the time… Asian women do eyelid surgeries + bleaching. White women with BBLs, lip fillers etc

[@BeyondmyselfIsrael]

@@themarathoncontinues4211 cause they getting out of pocket. Fake nails fake hair fake eyelashes. Fake body but, want a real man. Cmon son. You keeping lying to yourself if you want.

[@themarathoncontinues4211]

@@BeyondmyselfIsrael I don’t mess with the eyelashes and nails, or fake bodies. Ofc I don’t LIKE the fake hair, but if she’s bad it truly doesn’t bother me. If she’s bad she’ll look g regardless of her hair

[@PM-hx1ds]

For the guys that are like RW or any man that wants to fill their knowledge gap buy a book by the name of "How to be a 3% Man" by Corey Wayne. Society needs to keep shaming and teaching the women that keep on picking the type of men they stays complaining about.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 lol

[@iwishyouwould9985]

How you gonna build a successful wholesome black community with a bucket of cloned got damn “futures”

[@er0meyo827]

Let's say those guys who were studying their entire life, got better with women and they making really good money, don't u think they can become like future with 10 baby mama's, I don't think society will handle that well.

[@albertrobinson4133]

Exactly, they really don’t see the after effect all they care about is themselves.

[@user-gt1kd9rv1w]

She was brilliant!

[@demiremoorman8011]

I can appreciate the idea of acknowledging that you can’t be one dimensional but I think she’s asking for something potentially dangerous.

[@karlditz8631]

I agree with much of what this guest says. I have a PhD and I have spend all my days in books. Stepping to women is difficult but one that ice is broken I know I have them on the points of looks, finances, resources, conversation, sex etc. Its just that that initial approach to a woman is absolutely and utterly frightening. So guys like us rely on chance meetings, conferences, and friend to friend introductions re. meeting women. There are alot of us out there trust me.... but once that ice is broken alot of these women do crazy things to retain us.

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@thomasmoore6054]

She had to clean that up real quick lol

[@Jay-vv8mq]

🎯

[@waynerileyart]

Black men should not take advice like what this woman is saying, Black people are supposed to respect the nuclear physicist types because they've demonstrated a discipline none of the future types (or the women who love them) have ever had and will never have. Women are not required to like such men either they can go ahead and share future in the ghetto with other baby mothers but what we are not gonna do is shit on these intelligent Black men who actually make a difference and are a credit to us as a people.

[@albertrobinson4133]

🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@huguesofficial6747]

This woman was on point; listen to her;

[@Kris-ym2zr]

The preview intro speaks serious facts.

[@albertrobinson4133]

It all depends on what she means by well rounded, for many black women that shit is superficial, the neuroscientist was viewed as having a “lack of personality”, but whole time he had a girlfriend. Many of the women who say things like well rounded and lack of personality typically lack those things themselves lbs

[@Kris-ym2zr]

@@mrt094 Although I actually originally made that comment when there was only a pre-video preview with some home truths being spoken by Shahrazad Ali, I think what is said at the start of this video is still a valuable piece of truth. Although it's important you verify this number for yourself, I'm pretty sure that the percentage of fathers in homes in at least the black community is about 70% (american data). So I don't think the core question should be, why aren't fathers at home (at least in the black community). Put another way, a lack of a father isn't going to explain all or even most cases. It's most likely just a lack of proper training (present father or not), and a lack of being able to compensate for that lack of training. A better focus for further discussion would be identifying what would be required to ensure that respectable guys receive the type of deliberate training they need, to guarentee their success with women. There's four things we can do to overcome this situation as men: 1) helping the respectable guys around us develop the skills and balanced personalities they need 2) making it easy for respectable guys in general in our community to develop the skills and personalities they need 3) respectable guys seeking the information and training that is needed at the earliest opportunity in order to maximise success with women 4) Ensuring we as fathers are deliberately day-by-day teaching our sons to be successful men. Those means taking them to the gym with us to build habits that will give them an invaluable physique, teaching them step by step how to interact with women, teaching them nuances that may apply to their generation that didn't aplly to ours, etc. Women can also contribute by picking the right fathers when dating, or if it's too late for that then ensuring their son gets the right systematic male trainining from elsewhere. That's my view atleast. What do you think?

[@Kris-ym2zr]

@@albertrobinson4133 This is true and I'm not even looking at the nuclear guy as a lot was going on with that situation, both him and her may have only have been on the show for unserious reasons. 100% there are women who say these things and lack personality themselves, but there is also value in the advice at the start of this video because it can ensure success. She elaborates later in the video in a way that seems to be reasonable for the context. However, some women will reject guys even when they have these traits, simply because what may be going on with them and it doesn't always say something about us lacking anything. I think the issue is only if no woman of the calibre we want is into us.

[@albertrobinson4133]

@@Kris-ym2zr I understand

[@amaliomar]

4:55 Facts, Facts, Facts

[@BookerT1]

the more i hear these women talk the more sysbm makes sense

[@johncapo2843]

# TRANSLATION I WAS HO TILL 29 then I hit the wall lol

[@Novadad35]

Man I have a 2 year daughter, and I’m just going to keep it a 100 with her.

[@CoreyJ0E]

I was riding with her until the end, women need to grow up.

[@jrobinson4453]

I literally thought the same. The biggest issue I had with it is that she had good conversation and at the end I was like, oh she thinks the same as what we perceive that they think. But I do want to see where this picks up at in the next part

[@ronyaford4039]

I hope guys are not listening to this lady. She sounds crazy

[@jaym6126]

It will work for getting them to bed , it won't work for a long term relationship because that isn't who the man is at the end of the day. She basically said follow pick up artist advice dress way X, speak way Y etc

[@ronyaford4039]

Jay M, hell yea.

[@Wraith3100]

The only want a good guy when they bad ones don’t want them anymore

[@Speakinurmynd]

Most women have been picking bad men since they were 16yrs old, you'd think 10-15yrs of that would give them some sort of insight as to what a good/bad man is. "Not knowing how to pick a good man" is just another in the long line of BS excuses! Most women know the characteristics of what makes a good man, but as she confirmed, theyre just not sexually attracted to most men who poses them! And its funny to me we can spend time telling men what they need to do to be more attractive to women, but when the convo is about what women can do to be more attractive to men it falls on deaf ears!

[@kreativeforce532]

19:40 this is a huge crock. I DAMN SURE do not want to be anything like Future. Did she bonk her head? I don't know any brothas who want to be that dude. Nor Lil'Wanye when he was the guy BW wanted, nor Souljah Boy. These guys are sick looking clowns. Good guys are not in competition with bad guys and should not be or else they won't be good guys anymore. Our values are different from one another. It is not up to the woman to know how to vet a good man vs a bad man because they will still choose the bad man because he is controllable. THATS the thrilling part for the sistas. The good guy isn't controllable and thus is not entertaining to manipulative sistas. To use her terms. Really as Allen stated the guys aren't absolutely good or bad but rather during a certain period of life its sensible to look for a wife and during ones younger years it is not as sensible nor fiscally feasible. That being said this is why fathers MUST choose the appropriate husband for their daughters. She wouldn't go down the right path if you gave her a map, compass, sundial and GPS. It violates the bragging rights of the independent woman (man manipulator) title.

[@roguepill]

no brother with good sense wants to be "future", for whatever reason

[@NewlyDreadedTim]

THE WALL !!!!!!!!!!! Is undefeated 😏

[@amandlaawethu1538]

She said teach the ♂️how 2 B a degenerate. But not teach da ♀️ 2 appreciate good character make that make D U M B as sense