The Map Behind the Criticism... Ready or Not 1.0 School Shooter

[@hanchiman]

I like the outfits of the SWAT, they are wearing civilian clothing, shows that they didn't had time to change into a BDU in an emergency call. So probably was having a day off or something before called up

[@OfficialInvictus]

I'm glad you noticed that. We deliberately set it up this way. Off duty officers responding to an active shooting.

[@9mare]

​@@OfficialInvictusI hope you can add lines to the guard you see when you first enter the door, maybe something like "There are other students inside" to let the players know that He is a good man who does his duty, not a man who is greedy for life and afraid of death.

[@jameslewis8315]

Yeah, I noticed that too and I was confused at first.

[@austindecker7643]

@@OfficialInvictusexcept during uvalde off duty officers were not allowed to respond and one was arrested for trying to go in

[@austindecker7643]

@@OfficialInvictusbut that was uvalde which was weird this situation whet off duty officers respond happens more often than not

[@shocksta2216]

The most redeeming aspect of Ready or Not is the fact that it isn't afraid to show the horrific reality that this world is indeed capable of harbouring.

[@Charlie1776_]

*American world

[@bradleycushing5780]

​@@Charlie1776_ This shit happens a lot more in America, but more than a dozen people were just killed in a school in Prague.

[@JeanAcefoull]

May I ask you guys where does the accident happened? I mean can I search it on KZbin?

[@SparK.h276]

​@@FutaCatto2 tf is wrong with you

[@mr2meows]

@@FutaCatto2 Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[@kquindarlewisfyindujbar]

my face when the realistic SWAT based shooter game includes situations the SWAT teams goes through:

[@brainlesssayspro3738]

Fr

[@KicksPregnantWomen]

b-but school shootings bad!!!

[@chessterstone]

nah man obviously we’re a squad looting up to go fight a gang of mysterious dragons guarding keys that unlock ultimate power to end the world

[@Eškala_Iśa]

😂 goofy

[@zillajratomicray]

If it were realistic, they’d sit outside for an hour while the students inside got massacred

[@mickthick6170]

never knew that it would be controversial to play a game where the goal is to stop the bad guys shooting up the place

[@Mini-ot7yu]

It's not controversial, don't believe everything you hear. The effects and regularity of cancel culture are a myth perpetuated by the easy access to information provided by the internet.

[@fishfood8711]

game is about being a SWAT officer. This is a situation a SWAT officer might have to go through. If you’re sensitive to this kind of stuff then just don’t play the game

[@cookies3740]

@@fishfood8711dude did NOT understand what was said

[@fishfood8711]

@@cookies3740 nah i’m agreeing with the guy, just adding my own point

[@cookies3740]

@@fishfood8711 i guess I’m the stupid one. Sorry man

[@typo_3148]

Despite its controversies, this ended up being one of their best maps due to how immersive it is

[@StonedNoob]

Idk man the music kinda kills the vibe. Like while you’re actually inside.

[@xzavier1543]

turn it off?@@StonedNoob

[@StonedNoob]

@@xzavier1543 I did eventually. But I usually like to experience the game the way it was designed so I kept it on. So was just confused why they have it. Doesn’t it ruin the immersion for you guys?

[@vakileoo]

@@StonedNoobit def does

[@xavion5727]

got goosebumps. Don't want to imagine the horrors you're going through while such kind of situation

[@bigbuba5212]

I love how he wasn't here to talk about the controversy, but instead, he's like, "Yup, it's controversial. Yup, we're doing this"

[@skinnyjeanis7177]

that's what i like about RoN, they aren't afraid to go there. the controversy started with the nightclub shooting, and it never stopped them from continuing development.

[@MentalParadox]

I love how playing a game in the 2020s is controversial. I hate this decade with every fiber of my being

[@skinnyjeanis7177]

@@MentalParadox preach. this shit sucks for real.

[@Retrogr4de]

​@@MentalParadox And its only gonna get worse

[@bigbuba5212]

@@MentalParadox fucking extremists are louder than ever

[@ThePunisher_88]

The freakiest mission is still the birthday house with the CP going on underground and the barrels they're melting kids in. Shit was disturbing af.

[@identity9590]

I'm sorry they were melting kids in barrels???

[@ThePunisher_88]

@@identity9590 in the basement there is a lot of CP filming going on and in one of the corners there are 50 gallon drums with children's shoes next to them. To me it looks like they were putting the children in barrels of acid and burying them to dissolve the evidence.

[@meteor541]

​@@ThePunisher_88that's just reaching at this point.

[@thebarbaryghostsf]

it's implied by notes and things in that level and a few of the related ones, that the kids are not being melted in lye, but were sent to Romania to live as "slaves"... which in all honestly is probably a far worse fate. I think they were destroying the kids clothing and belongings.

[@ThePunisher_88]

Some maybe but clearly not all. And no I'm not reaching for anything. Shit seems fairly obvious to me. Go play the mission again. It isn't reaching. It's literally right there in front of you.

[@martinsleight321]

I still think the AI is a bit ridiculously good with their aim and reaction times, but the game has come a LONG way. Very happy with the current product.

[@anatolystepanovichdyatlov1747]

Sometimes the AI, depending on the map, reacts reasonable and sometimes it is just john wick on crack... wallbanging you with aimbot or performing a 180 noscope with a glock right in the middle of your eyeballs.

[@martinsleight321]

@@BombsAh0y My question is - is there even a point of anything other than heavy armour?

[@Mustansxa]

@@martinsleight321it’s to move faster than heavy armor.

[@Kuutti_original]

​@@martinsleight321 Well light armor + Gas mask and a lot tear gas is one hell of a way to clean levels. With light armor you can get 6 tear gas nades + 4 in launcher. So 50 nades if everyone in the team has them. That is with also 4 mags on primary and 2 for sidearm. You could also take peppergun and go with full non lethal, or you can take pretty much any other weapon and have very high area control on top of it. With tear gas you dont really need heavy armor as enemies dont shoot back unless they have gasmasks too. Coupled with pepperguns they also usually surrender fast.

[@BombsAh0y]

@@martinsleight321 I've had suspects still drop me pretty quickly even with full coverage heavy armor.

[@SobaOfPulaski]

As a first responder this has always been one of my nightmares. I have prayed everyday that we will never have to respond to one of these, I already have had to see so much folks die in my career, but all of those were vehicle accidents, fires, search operations, never something like a shooting. Games like RoN that have mastered environmental story telling in regard to relevant topics are fantastic and need to be pushed to the top of the charts. Its only controversial to folks who don’t want to acknowledge bad things happen in the world (the Voll Heath house was a fantastic example of that, folks felt it was distasteful and the devs were like; yeah thats the point, its a real issue and it should make you uncomfortable), these missions are not meant to be fun or light hearted, they are meant to make you face reality.

[@postaldude7879]

o7

[@GoldGamer-pl8yt]

@@postaldude7879ok bot

[@postaldude7879]

@@GoldGamer-pl8yt wtf you mean bot bro

[@tax1643]

A highly under-rated comment. It's easier to close our eyes to the horrors of the world than it is to accept the idea that mankind is capable of unbelievable cruelty and evil.

[@Sulfurfields12]

What’s the point of it being a game if it’s not supposed to be fun?

[@OzzyInSpace]

The ONLY reason this would get any kind of "criticism" is because those people realize these events are no longer a rare occurrence, and would suddenly have to come to grips with that. Instead, it's just easier to hate on a video game for bringing to light some of those topics.

[@312hustla]

They want that sweet sugar filled lie and dont want the cold hard truth.

[@GameHunterDeathhunter]

cause people want the attention and make it about themselves they are such boring people they don't think anything deep about anything or offer a proper opinion they just have to say something bs to stand out

[@swarmofhungrydeathclaws]

​@lx4zu god I hate those damn pdf files

[@mykeh3155]

@@lx4zu There has been criticism since way back when it was originally announced, people didn't like the idea of it because of how much they hear about it in real life, there were plenty of posts around the time where people said they might not even buy the game due to playing games to escape real life instead of experiencing more of its horrors. The darkness of each level has almost nothing to do with if people care about it being in the game or not, people watch crime shows about kidnapping, rapes, trafficking and terrorism all the time and don't seem to give a shit because those are not in the news every week/month and media has been turning them into drama content for decades.

[@GameHunterDeathhunter]

@lx4zu less critism and more drama mainly news outlets typical bs MO of going games encourages shootings kind of thing

[@GhostandChromis]

All the 911 calls are so well done in this game. This one in particular is absolutely harrowing. That poor woman.

[@UM3.Yasuke]

So frustrating that she didn't immediately give necessary information but also so REAL

[@atanix3255]

@@UM3.Yasuke Well if you're in panicked state like that, it'd be hard.

[@ryanbrown5141]

​@atanix3255 I think that was the point of his comment it's frustrating because her being quicker with the information would of saved lives, if she stayed calm she could've even lived her self, obviously calling in this situation would be hard on anyone

[@atanix3255]

@@ryanbrown5141 I guess I could've misinterpreted it, I can see where you're coming from.

[@chachawawa3722]

@@UM3.Yasuke EXACTLY! Lol I actually wouldn't consider it realistic for that. I haven't personally been in such a situation but you would most definitely want to be as clear as possible in a situation like that to get help as soon as possible

[@treyquanrud3650]

The most unrealistic thing about this map is the authorities entering the building with the shooter instead of waiting outside

[@fishfood8711]

there are still innocent civilians inside the building with the shooter. that would be stupid

[@JohnDoe-zn6fd]

@@fishfood8711 it's a reference to uvalde

[@chazman4461]

Wrong. It is being taught nationally to enter and equalize the shooter as soon as possible. No waiting for back up, no team meetings, enter and neutralize. A little research and you will see this.

[@yeetjones927]

​@@JohnDoe-zn6fd tf is uvalde?

[@theredrooster7143]

@@yeetjones927school shooting where the cops were too cowardly to go in so they just sat outside while kids got shot.

[@stevebutters306]

The criticism about the school level is so stupid. Rainbow 6 vegas 2 features an entire college campus full of students packed into an auditorium with the doors welded shut and gas piped in. Nobody batted an eye then, but "it's 20xx!"

[@MelanismSeis]

@@Dead_Weight21 dont be ridiculous. School shootings have plagued the US since the late 90s. That's over 20 years, so it surely wasnt new by then either. Difference is people were more mature back then.

[@Sleide]

@@Dead_Weight21 this was after

[@speedick4259]

It was definitely way after Columbine...

[@mainhalo117]

@@Dead_Weight21school shootings aren’t that big of an issue in the USA, you’re still at least 10x more likely to die in a drunk driving crash than dying in a school shooting yet people aren’t petrified to hop in a car

[@FrosteryGaming]

Didn't Counter-Strike map maker had the same thing, but instead of school shooting, it's terrorist planting a bomb?

[@owenleynes7086]

imagine criticizing a piece of art for depicting reality instead of criticizing the politicians and government officials who continue to let this be a reality

[@TheIndispensableOpposition]

exactly this

[@ericsnoek728]

Jupp

[@chrisporter9397]

What do we protect politicians with, again? Remind us

[@Omaygot_Yugonmakmibus]

@@chrisporter9397 sex

[@ktkace]

YUPPP

[@kyleshuler2929]

I did the Uvalde tactic on this level and refused to enter the school until a random off duty border patrol agent who borrowed a shotgun from his barber and left in the middle of a haircut showed up and stopped it.

[@MentalParadox]

Did you make sure the agent (who had a kid in that school, btw) was arrested and went to prison? Good, A+

[@kyleshuler2929]

@@MentalParadox wait WHAT?!

[@danielwoods3896]

The border patrol agent didn't stop it, he evacuated some kids but contrary to some social media sensationalist BS he didn't enter the school

[@MentalParadox]

@@kyleshuler2929 he was an off-duty cop who had a son in that school. He grabbed his shotgun and went in on his own without permission. He was arrested and charged for this

[@kyleshuler2929]

@MentalParadox man, when you see stuff like that.... it's really really REALLY hard to not think that the authorities were under orders to let that tragedy happen and allowed it to be as bad as possible to push some kind of agenda about taking things away from citizens.... hmmm...... 🤔

[@FyXeeu]

Campus, Farm, and Port are my favorite maps in Ready or Not 1.0, the sensation you get is thrilling and fun but you still feel very uneasy. Glad Void took the risk to keep these.

[@sparkead]

Neon Nightclub also gets very uncomfortable once you turn off the music, with the sobs and cellphones buzzing only to be interrupted by gunfire.

[@CardinalCake]

@@sparkead yeah that shit's so sad, the families all phoning praying they answer but never do

[@dobbi6083]

Don't have too much playtime on this game, it's really atmospheric and detailed, the enemies are a bit aimbotty and shoot through walls a bit too much tho, wish you could turn it down a bit

[@StonedNoob]

@@sparkeadwait you can turn off the music?

[@TheTrueDan]

​@@sparkead Yeah, that's why I never turn It off - Just so It can hide the phones buzzing and the feeling of that very loud silence and emptiness within the club

[@KamikazezMyGuy]

The 911 call made me replay the final message like 5 times just because how good the acting is. It’s also terrifying, I’ve played this map and it was crazy.

[@joshgardiner3612]

Is it a real call or voice acted for this level?

[@KamikazezMyGuy]

@@joshgardiner3612 Voice actor im pretty sure, since Watt Community college dosent exist in real life (again im pretty sure).

[@deeznutz8320]

They cant use real audio from a school shooting, its probably illegal (for good reason) but also the family can sue. Its just really good acting props to the actress@@KamikazezMyGuy

[@bobertastic6541]

​@@joshgardiner3612 im 100% certain it would be too far if they used an actual call for a school shooting, so its va'd

[@yeyking5455]

Yo solo voy a decir que el audio se parece a una de las llamadas en la masacre columbine

[@pwnzer101]

i feel like the lack of playable role as a shooter, zero glamourization of the shooters and the distressing reality of the scenario doesnt warrent this much controversy. I think people tend to forget that games about ww2 would have had the same reaction if they came out during world war 2, but the reception to those games now is casual. Same with the cold war, vietnam, iraq and afghanistan etc. There is no good time or right time to cover the subjects in this format, its just a harsh reality of modern society. The real issue is the fact the problem of mass shootings hasnt been solved in 30+ years, not games referencing it.

[@smokingspitfire1197]

Most of the worlds countries have solved the shooting problem, its only the USA and their ass-backwards, asinine, idiotic mentality to guns that remain.

[@theheavenlyfb4071]

I think the problem is that people see this game more like a PVE version of Rainbow Six Siege when in reality it's more like a simulator. The game doesn't make light of these situations and that's the point, which I agree that people are blowing this out of proportion. If this made them uncomfortable then it means the devs did the job at displaying the grim reality.

[@Kevin-Schmevin]

In the Uvalde version, you hear the calls of the kids begging for help, and you just stand outside and pepper spray parents...

[@Alex-ff1mk]

Lmaoo

[@nikolsman244]

Oh yeahhh, a father worried about his 5 year old son is more dangerous than a dude with a military grade assault rifle in a classroom of children and teachers, thanks for keeping the violence under control agents 😂😂❤.

[@dixenherize6969]

Way to basically copy what someone with some actual originality said first. Desperate for that attention

[@crazymanwerido4522]

​@@dixenherize6969Woah 2 different people had the same idea?!?!? No way, must be a copy

[@bc5208]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 cowards

[@sourlab]

Im so grateful that they still kept the map Ignoring real life problems is absolutely terrible On another note Gawdamn that's alot of likes

[@Killswitch1411]

and its not being the school shooter, you're taking the threat out!

[@Texasplit]

I mean it’s a college… the active shooter map could be WAY worse, if you know what I mean…

[@jaefrmbk2k]

irony

[@Texasplit]

@@jaefrmbk2k where?

[@D2_Papaya]

if anything would this be pretty good thinking of where is a smart spot to hide or escape in a dangerous situation like this too, it kind of gives the average person a good idea of what's smart and not smart to do, like if hiding or running is smart in that area or the fact that the SWAT will shoot you if you act like a idiot or will have a harder time if you don't calm down. if anything this is far more educational than a lot of the "shooting survival practice" these teachers are doing.

[@mikedahuman]

It might seem weird but it would probably benefit law enforcement that regularly work together doing this type of work to periodically play these types of games as a way to work on teamwork and quick problem solving. obviously its not the same, but it would definitely help in terms of communication and teamwork in times of stress.

[@mighthookya2637]

Legit

[@Oripave]

With VR improving, i think we'll see police officers and SWAT training on games like this in our lifetime

[@spacechimp3199]

They do this already with simulators, some even have VR. I’ve done a lot of different scenarios on one including active shooter response. I was also an actor for a few tactical teams and they used an old high school for their training with simunition rounds.

[@alextheferret5674]

After seeing vids like this, I feel much more comfortable with this map being included. It's very consistent with actual events and doesn't glorify the whole thing

[@starstencahl8985]

This is a tactical police shooter, why would they even want to glorify the criminals the police is responding to?

[@TheSkyheart5]

@@starstencahl8985 I think what people were afraid of, or at least the people trying to approach the controversy sensibly, was that it would be like Call of Duty, you know, that whole "press F to pay respect" meme then off you go to gun down dozens of bad guys in some high adrenaline set piece.

[@bewawolf19]

@@TheSkyheart5 Even if it was that who cares? WWI was devastating and demoralizing, and that battlefield WWI is the COD meme shooter, and all of that is perfectly fine. They are just moralizing over things to virtue signal.

[@ashleighchance9420]

​@@bewawolf19even Call of Duty itself (the early ones especially) had anti-war messages, and made it pretty clear that it's a video game.

[@nekolare]

​@@bewawolf19battlefield 1 gameplay represents perfectly the despair of WW1

[@stephenmorrow7987]

Kudos to Void for not giving into the mob mentality. Ready Or Not 1.0 is honestly the most fun I've had with a fps in a long tims

[@LAHFaust]

It was clever of them to shift it from a grade/middle-schook that we see in the announcement trailer to a college to alleviate at least SOME of the blowback.

[@anatolystepanovichdyatlov1747]

They somewhat did, because its not a school.

[@bingusenjoyer197]

bro gtfoh with this "criticism" that this map is recieving, you're fighting an invisible cancel culture ghost that isnt there while almost everybody here is praising the devs for bringing light to this sad reality. nobody is crying here, only you are about something that doesn't or barely exists.

[@LAHFaust]

@@bingusenjoyer197 wtf are you talking about, boomer?

[@sirzebra]

What controversy ? This is a common occurence in your shitty states since 20 years, apart from an NRA lobbyist, who would be offended at a game depicting something that happens weekly irl ?

[@michelletheado]

This map actually has a bit of a dark Easter Egg to it, with a hint of foreshadowing - "Elephant" is a 2003 film by Gus Van Sant about a pair of school shooters at an alternative high school in the PNW, which was heavily based on the 1999 Columbine massacre.

[@informitas0117]

I thought it was a reference to GOP

[@TheFirstCurse1]

It's also because the Elephant is the animal of the Republican Party.

[@oddn6158]

This game is respectful about what is happening out there in the real world. People who criticize these situations are the ones who don't want to bring it up to the light. Gaming has all kinds of genres, and I support the creators who make games like these. There are many horror/gore games that have situations that could've happened in the real world.

[@BebehCookieIcecream]

That phonecall.. fuck. The dev team has immense respect for the subject matter and isn't pulling any punches when it comes to conveying the themes of their game. Made my stomach turn, but I say that with respect and commendation. I hope this real world issue cones to a head sometime because the metrics are deeply heartbreaking.

[@ChaoticCocoa]

Yeah, I had to listen to the phone call twice just to fucking process it. It's such a brutal yet powerful thing.

[@snmcamper]

Back in my day we played a game called "JFK Reloaded" you'd kill JFK over and over again trying to get the highest score.

[@toonce101]

Forgot about that 😂

[@epgamer1145]

I’m glad they added this in. They wanted to stay true to what swat units experience. Though it’s a touchy topic, it’s very fitting for the game. The past 1-2 years have definitely further supported the decision with such horrific events.

[@NoobeianMediaCorps.]

I love how the devs keep doing stuff, they aren't saying "Well people on twitter are mad so no more RON" they're like "F*ck twitter, this is sh*t real people experienced so we need to bring it to light!"

[@epgamer1145]

@damsen978 didn’t ask.

[@epgamer1145]

@@NoobeianMediaCorps. right. They found out that social media anger is fake so they knew it was more realistic to do the complete opposite of what others tell them.

[@DrinkingBleachOnTheBeach]

@damsen978all maps are touchy topics yes but the reason this is extra touching is because in the USA kids are dying frequently and school shootings are a massive problem

[@PatentSleet]

🤓

[@matthewwilliams3827]

I like how many of the rooms are like set pieces in this game. Great level design, too

[@Amorphous_Sand]

I graduated with a bachelor's in science and was delighted to see the attention to detail that the devs gave to the labs, especially with the equipment. My only complaint was that the equipment looked like it was beyond the budget of a community college. 😂

[@matthewwilliams3827]

@@user-pv7kt6zc4k I’ve unfortunately not played this game myself, but I’m sure I’ll recognise the mission you described once I watch a video on that one lol

[@xXblazmodzXx]

The thing about Ready or Not to me is how it doesnt try to act like its better than any other project just because it has real or scary subject matters. They just do what they do and they make no big deal about it and acknowledge when people criticize them, even if the criticism is uncalled for. I also love how you guys set up your outfits, really gives the impression that there was simply no time to change clothes at all and they Literally just up and arrived asap. Great stuff ^^

[@GrindyVine]

We all hate that it became such normal everyday lives that could happen, and it's sucks

[@Devin_Smile]

Love how the map/mission is called "elephant". Clever way of noting how the probability of this happening to anyone is the "elephant in the room". Or, better yet, before this map came out the idea of this being a scenario was the "elephant in the room".

[@O.uroboros.777]

There's also a movie about a school shooting called Elephant, which is inspired by a movie by the same name that depicts the everyday violence that was normal back in the day during some event in the European area. Forget which one though

[@Devin_Smile]

I remember the European area one but didn't know there was a film about a school shooting called elephant, thats pretty wild@@O.uroboros.777

[@O.uroboros.777]

@@Devin_Smile It's a very bleak film. It's like you're actually watching a normal highschool day go on before the shooting occurs. The highschoolers act like normal teens and that's what makes it easy to resonate with

[@TheFirstCurse1]

It's also because the Republican Party's animal is the Elephant.

[@MultiPurposeReviewer]

​@@TheFirstCurse1How many school shooters have been Republicans?

[@OllieMendes]

Your game play was pretty exciting but me and my friends did a realism playthrough where we just sat outside the whole time.

[@alanharvey1539]

Daaayyyyuuummm!!! 😅😅😅

[@EKPB]

It is honestly very sad that those dudes were so incompetent irl

[@sam8404]

​@@EKPByeah I just watched a documentary the other day showing a lot of them being interviewed afterwards. They all sounded like kids making excuses for why they didn't do their chores.

[@pandahsykes602]

@@sam8404as crime rises , police training gets taken away for welfare and immigrant programs instead , on top of this pay is decreasing for the average cop . Imagine risking your life for a 60k/ year job . The swat are a bit different , but good police officers are a dying breed but it’s not entirely their fault .

[@Fewe00]

@@pandahsykes602 bro police funding is at an all time high across the entire country. They are the most trained and militarized they have ever been. Please do even a modicum of research

[@Mako8414]

Cop here. I’m a rookie still but just went through a few days of active shooter training at a high school. Rad video! Yeah, people will always complain about whatever hot button topic they can to generate clout, but I was pleased with this level. The insane AI can be fixed with an easy mod, but compared to early access the whole game has so much more life and depth to it now. This is a pretty good depiction of clearing a situation like this, as far as the game would allow. The map’s deceptive if you played early access, because it’s listed as a barricaded suspect instead of active shooter/bomb threat like it would have been. I liked the surprise when I found the first bomb. 🙃 The modern thinking, especially post-Uvalde, is to move fast. The “Stop the Killing. Stop the Dying.” posters you see in the station refer to a common training principle in active shooter events that prioritizes response. You MUST neutralize the threat first so resources can be diverted to saving the wounded. I was taught that the average time for LE to contact the shooter in these situations is 3-4 minutes from arrival. You get in and look for stimulus (screaming, blood, gunfire) and you head directly towards that. You have to violate normal building search principles and pass doors, pass wounded or dead civilians so you can stop a threat. Then you tend to those things. Good job showing some of the chaos of a situation like that. Realistically we wouldn’t be detaining civilians, just asking them if they’ve seen/heard anything and telling them to shelter where they are. The game limits you of course, it would be cool if they gave you some clues to where they were at besides the pointing animation.

[@sonic176yt7]

No shit a game is better out of early access. Unless you made hello neighbour

[@Hutoシ]

I kinda see what the critisism is about but i also don't, this just shows the horrors of these kinds of rare events, and it shows why there should be something done about them. If we are just going to cry, and dont do anything about these kinds of events, they are just going to keep happening, we need to take action and take it now.

[@warumdach9707]

I dont see the criticism. People are soft.

[@0zWiz]

​@@warumdach9707yeah. Like come on it's also a game 😅 relax people acting like it's 9/11

[@wordlessi]

@@0zWiz How would 911 be any different tho?

[@MobileTaskForceE11]

People should be criticizing the pieces of shit that do this and not the people who try to spread awareness of what is happening

[@Glubbdubdrib]

What sort of actions? Cops around every corner in every school? Because we all know criminals will give their guns up if they get banned 😅

[@yugenjames4078]

I also love the name of the map, "Elephant", like the Vant Sant movie about Columbine, but the name it's more deep than that. Elephant it's also a 1989 movie about "The Troubles" in England, and it's 36-38 minutes of only omicides. The two movies are correlated: the minimalism, the cold blood violence, but most importantly the title, that comes from Bernard MacLaverty talking about "The Troubles" as "the elephant in our living room", an elephant that everyone see but that no one want to talk about.

[@shcdemolisher]

Very true. It's still sad that people lack the strength to talk about real problems and wanting to fix them. There are those who do have the strength and want to fix but sadly don't get the chance.

[@AngryStickBoi]

Damn that is fucking deep as shit, ive heard of Elephant, the “Troubles” one, i also havent completed the new campaign yet and i havent really looked ahead so im glad the devs decided on that name

[@TheFirstCurse1]

They're also both called that because it's the Republican Party's animal.

[@AngryStickBoi]

@@TheFirstCurse1 the Troubles were Irish, not American, i doubt that they chose Elephant to call out Republicans, so why don’t you take your politics elsewhere and do some research, the Troubles were fuckin Irish

[@douggaudiosi14]

I believe elephant just coincedently came out the same time Columbine happened. That s why it was buried and isn't more well known

[@slicingonions4398]

This is a real life occurrence happens several times a year not wanting to have it shown in any type of media doesn't help anything

[@ThePimpinator]

america moment

[@Charlie1776_]

lol America is so backwards sometimes

[@TheFirstCurse1]

Several times a year? You mean 300-400 times a year.

[@Idk_what_to_put_here_3]

@@TheFirstCurse150-60

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

@@TheFirstCurse1 you honestly don’t believe that, do you? Let’s be serious here.

[@gnatflatt]

it hurts to play this map, knowing that its a real situation that far, far too many people have been involved in. Though, however much it hurts to play, I'm happy its here. We, as a people, can't sit on our hands and ignore things like this.

[@trolliffy115]

Here's your Internet brownie points for stating the obvious while doing nothing yet acting as if you really care

[@gnatflatt]

@trolliffy115 well fuckin sorry that I cant stand guard at every god damn school on the planet. Christ almighty, and what do you do? Sit on your ass like everyone else, calling people out on the same shit you yourself do? Foh

[@Charlie1776_]

Same I used to love FPS games rainbow etc but this feels different somehow. It's like there rubbing it out faces.

[@noone-pg4lr]

@@AbyssalKyaniteice the politicians who let this happen

[@1891kmk]

@@trolliffy115for real kids make these types of comments just to get likes

[@RobotPanda15]

Really dope map. Void did a great job of balancing the reality of active shooter - where you can't save everyone - while pushing you to the threat and forcing a methodical clearance when you don't have the information to work with. Really well done.

[@AJ-xc4nm]

There are books, songs, tv shows, and movies that all explain and depict a very real and terrifying scenario involving school shootings, often based on real events. Why cant video games? I dont understand how this could be controversial. You hear about these situations but to SEE them is something different and it has a different impact on people. Not only are these depictions good they are necessary.

[@rw0dyxer012]

I can understand why they chose a college campus but I can already see modders doing either high school or elementary school maps later on simply because they can.

[@schizophrenicgaming365]

"Skibidi Tragedy V1"

[@childreninmybasement1]

@@schizophrenicgaming365 thats gonna be a kindergarten

[@bobertastic6541]

​@@childreninmybasement1 na, that would be a nursery.

[@HangingDGrunt]

​@@bobertastic6541Nah, that boutta be the orphanage

[@Strawberrymilkshake1321]

nah, that's the hosptial map before they are born@@HangingDGrunt

[@blobdestroyer1792]

This feels so panicked and stressful. This game always does such a good job of making its missions feel real.

[@coolepic519]

Loading into a shooter game and you just see the screen fade into an image of lockers in a school would leave you horrified

[@cannedgoose3259]

My biggest critique of this is how the civilians are handled. Police wouldnt cuff them in a random room and move on, imagine if the suspect managed to slip past the officers and find a bunch of bound students just sitting there. I think it would be cool if there was a system where they would either run for the exit if it was close enough or the officers could tell them to "hide" and they would shelter in place, but not cuffed.

[@AngryStickBoi]

Apparently you can tell civilians to run to exits, but when ive tried it can only tell them to move to where im at and one other thing i cant remember, but running to the exit is an option but its grayed out for me and i couldnt use it

[@HighBluey]

They do actually cuff them irl

[@kyledodson2992]

They actually can depends and varies department to department. SWAT operates much more mission oriented, and yes, sometimes depending on the threat level they can hold civilians, but usually they tell them where the collection point is where they will be questioned and asked to issue a statement

[@nullnullnullvoid]

@@HighBlueyit depends on the scenario, when it’s a lot of civilians and there is an active threat, they may tell people to get out. When the threat is more hidden and it’s a manageable amount of civilians they cuff them

[@LeoKitsunee]

​​@@HighBluey im in a police training class in a trade school and my commander straight up told us that you only cuff anyone *after* there is no longer a confirmed threat. otherwise you tell them to stay the fuck down and keep quiet or tell them to run for an exit. on that second one though it's very risky

[@Imperium_protector]

I love how invictus seems like the only experienced dude while the rest run around like headless chickens 😂😂

[@poopwarrior1930]

AI is fucking insane in this update, you can get one tapped easily in this new update

[@OfficialInvictus]

Hmm. A lot of the guys we run with practice real CQB. There are some mistakes here, but for the most part I felt like a lot of the engagements we were in, we ended up having some decent tactics. The library would be an exception as we got stuck on the door.

[@CardinalCake]

@@poopwarrior1930 sadly on some maps, one tapped through walls with their X-ray vision.

[@killercobra009]

@@CardinalCakeyeah and reaction times that physically impossible for humans to match

[@CardinalCake]

@@killercobra009 yep, it’s nearly as bad as its first release

[@zackpez3560]

Fun fact, the name of this mission, “elephant” is also the name of a 2003 movie about the Columbine massacre. The events of the mission share similarities to the massacre as well. Mainly the fact that there are multiple shooters rather than a lone in the mission as well as in Columbine which to my knowledge is something of a rarity in mass shootings. It was probably done for gameplay reasons but I still think it’s pretty interesting.

[@Messothelioma]

they added bomb defusal so you can't sit outside while the shooter runs out of ammo 💀

[@Fedinoxmusic]

1:14 that ragdoll took out all of the seriousness on scene lol

[@yurichekov8944]

Plus the "disorderly conduct" dispatch at 2:00 is ridiculous lol

[@luismedina5792]

what do you expect at the level were at in technology 😂

[@sumbunniii8721]

How realistic…the cops wait to enter until AFTER the shooting took place and it was too late just like irl 💀

[@baconatoromg6062]

Cops can't just teleport

[@hsuyuu1797]

Unless you’re uvalde in which case

[@wodekw6862]

​@@baconatoromg6062 the comment was referencing the shooting in Texas where more than 20 cops stood outside the school while there was an active shooter inside the school. Oh and they also arrested parents who tried to save their kids,

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

​@wodekw6862 I felt bad for the medic in that. The video showed him lunching forward to treat casualties but his security team stayed behind so he couldn't go in and do his job.

[@DavidS11]

The AI needs a little bit of tweaking, at some points it is unrealistic how fast and accurate they can shoot you. Also they shoot through walls too much. Hopefully it will be improved in the next update

[@jaefrmbk2k]

they not play w/us 😅

[@JaxiPaxified]

I think it's a question of anit-cheat. It's pretty clear they have ESP..

[@aJamBiscuit]

@@JaxiPaxified oh hell nah even the bots got hacks now bruh

[@FMJRaven]

I love this game and the fact the Dev didn’t just drop it for the hate the level got. As much as people may not like it stuff like this happens almost all the time and just ignoring it ain’t going to make anything better.

[@kugelblitzkrieg]

I mean almost all the time is a stretch, he media tends to exaggerate the amount of true school shootings that actually happen. Not that is isn’t happening way too damn frequently nowadays.

[@driver694]

I think having this in the game is a good thing as it can start a conversation about a real life issue. And since our generation does not read as much as older generations communicating difficult topics via games is defninitly the way to go

[@co1dz]

if ubisoft was allowed to add Bartlett uni in 2015 for R6 , then Ready Or Not should be allowed to include this School Map

[@NoobeianMediaCorps.]

What's Bartlett?

[@APACHE.HELICOPTER]

Article 15 was a highly planned attack by elite terrorist fighters involving gas and suicide bombers. Like the article 15 intro said, it wasn't just a random school shooting. It was a targeted attack on the "future" of the country, since they were attacking one of the states' most prestigious universities with the goal of causing as much casualties as possible, thus killing people that otherwise could have become important in the future. It wasn't the normal "quiet kid shoots up school because he was bullied or didn't like having a penis/vagina"

[@co1dz]

@@NoobeianMediaCorps. university map that was added in r6 and in r6s story, it was taken over by terrorists

[@vakileoo]

@@NoobeianMediaCorps.coop map in siege vs whitemasks

[@NoobeianMediaCorps.]

@@vakileoo Did it have any IRL controversies bc OC made it sound like a controversy?

[@charusu6624]

The amount of officers dying here is terrifying

[@thomasblaze]

TBF they're basically running and gunning, I believe a real SWAT team would do much better and this would be more akin to a "local yokel" police response. They're not securing loose weapons, not covering entry points while standing around talking, not wedging doors, are sending civs running to the exit, are solo clearing rooms that will obviously need more than one person, are 1v1'ing shooters, etc. For comparison checkout some players with military/SWAT experience such as GLID Gaming and possibly OperatorDrewski.

[@charusu6624]

@@thomasblaze operator drewski goated bro

[@GYI5U]

Really puts Ted cruz comforting the sheriff crying about being too much of a pussy to stop the uvalde shooter into perspective huh, jobs not so easy when it's not harassing teenagers for weed and handing out parking violations

[@TheRealNeonwarrior]

@@thomasblaze *in before Uvalde police footage*

[@mightymouse447]

It’s a game. They’re running in like a Call of Duty match. Get a grip.

[@whiskey-4208]

The most unrealistic part about this mission is the shooters didn’t immediately kill themselves once they where confronted by armed resistance

[@LoveyDovyy]

“what if I didn’t run? what if i wasn’t a coward? what if i want them to kill me? what if i want them to try?”

[@Idk_what_to_put_here_3]

@@LoveyDovyyreal

[@Sullo2004]

Only reason this has controversy is because this is a genuine issue over there maybe instead of people telling a game they can’t show stuff for what it is people should do something to stop this happening in real life but as someone said before it’s way easier to go after a game

[@fishfood8711]

this is a situation that a real SWAT officer may have to go through. If you’re sensitive just don’t play the game

[@wodekw6862]

​@@fishfood8711are you a bot? You re repeating the same thing under a lot of comments

[@sumfurtrash]

I feel the reason the map was so controversial was because people thought it was a childrens school. In promos you see someone rescuing a kid and a bloody classroom so people expected the shooting to be at a gradeschool or something.

[@filthycasual2567]

If im not mistaken im pretty sure that's how it was supposed to be but they changed there minds in favor of a uni so it wasnt as controversial

[@callummcneill6266]

@@filthycasual2567their

[@shadow200343]

@@filthycasual2567 It's probably also because it was easier on them to have a map full of adults instead of having 14-18 y/o running around that you also have to zip-tie.

[@jorgegerardorojas8222]

University or not the situation and map is still scary but I love the direction they went with the ambience and everything

[@kugelblitzkrieg]

@@shadow200343 Probably the real reason, given the fact they’ve already tackled arguably worse topics already.

[@sebby324]

This is a common occurrence in the USA and the critics can’t accept that

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

It’s really not that common of a issue, every time it happens it makes the news for a week, you’re thinking of the comically inflated statistics that are used for fear mongering

[@raygun1414]

10:35 HOLY SHIT THAT GAVE ME CHILLS. THATS SO REALISTIC

[@nemesisurvivorleon]

They released 1.0. WITH this map. Showing they have more balls and sense than the publisher who abandoned them. right on.

[@unrelatedguy]

Wait who's the publisher? I'm out of the loop on this tbh

[@crunch.dot.73]

​@@unrelatedguy I might be misremembering but I think it was team17

[@vagamer522]

@@crunch.dot.73Thanks for letting us know. Won't supprort them as a result.

[@coolguyvicaso745]

I’ve never thought how stressful it would be to go through a situation like this as a cop. Not knowing anything, risking life, it’s so stressful to go through something like that wether your a student or a cop. People don’t seem to really understand how difficult a life of a cop is, especially during the times we are in now where things like this are now happening daily. Heck, even I am feeling stressed out and I’m not even handling anything. Might it be offensive to some? Yes, but I have a feeling that this could be something of a learning opportunity, you know for learning what it would be like if you are the cop.

[@Axemania21]

It's hard not to see this as anything but a literal work of art. It doesn't poke fun at the situation, but it captures the horror of it in a way that's haunting to those who have never experienced it. I understand how seeing a simulated school shooting would hurt the victims of an actual one though. The sad reality is that situations like these won't ever stop being fresh until something is done about it.

[@TryingtoTellYou]

I don't take any of the 12 year old comments of support with any weight if they don't at least acknowledge that this is a game using a tragic event to earn money. I don't disagree that highlighting events can be great but it does not seem like politics was the aim of this video game. As such, the choice to include it seems morally bankrupt to me.

[@mainhalo117]

We’ve got way bigger problems in the USA than school sh00tings

[@Albus_Rex]

I don't know friend, I just played it like any other level and didn't really think about it. As soon as I stepped onto the level for the first time my brain just went to "Find the hostiles."

[@bruh-ux1ns]

@@TryingtoTellYou The main objective of the game is to provide the player a semi realistic and gritty experience of what it's like to be a SWAT Officer, that includes the types of situations those Officers need to respond to. The inclusion of the map doesn't automatically make it political and morally bankrupt, it can have political themes and implications but that isn't the main objective the map is going for. it's to provide an experience first and foremost.

[@TryingtoTellYou]

@@bruh-ux1ns I am not making comment on the quality of the game. It is a good game. I am merely stating that the choice to use a school shooting is no better than using attractive models on thumbnails or selling cigarettes. It's cheap, it's nasty and it does not fly with me.

[@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot]

This map was HARD, i only made it out with a single AI teammate and the bomb timers were shorter than they were in MP.

[@Albus_Rex]

Aren't there only 4 suspects? The difficult part is finding them.

[@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot]

@@Albus_Rex There were 4 but I got bad RNG so they were placed in really weird spots that took me awhile to get to.

[@aiden-d2v3u]

1:14 casually pushes dead body out of the way 😂

[@POQUEX]

Ffff the calls at the start really put on the mod. This is a topic that needs to be addresses and honestly, it's a good thing for it to been depicted more and more on the media, it expose the hard truth

[@TodaylsTheDay]

They changed it to a college after losing their first publisher. In the initial trailer you can see it's an elementary school as there is a dead kid.

[@sophrosynes6392]

Publishers want to keep a clean image while manipulating developers into what they think is profotable

[@TryingtoTellYou]

@@sophrosynes6392 The developers chose the map for profit to begin with. I am not sure why you think any of them are "heroic".

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

@@TryingtoTellYou Even if that was the case I wouldn't give a shit. They deserve to make a profit off of what they have created. Also no one used the word "heroic" or even insinuated it here. You're arguing with ghosts

[@TryingtoTellYou]

@@xx_amongus_xx6987 I am not sure if you've played the game or looked at any in game clips but you walk in as a SWAT member and the first thing you see is a wounded police officer. The wounded police officer suggests that the mere presence of a gun failed to protect the students. This message however is completely contradicted by the SWAT members who are the ones to resolve this issue with their own guns. This game is a painful reminder of cognitive dissonance.

[@late8965]

@@TryingtoTellYou yep, because power in numbers and surprising someone doesn't exist. Smart thinking

[@adamschneider868]

I think the toughest part of all of this, would be after you took the shooter down and then had to clear the entire campus. Staying high alert the whole time even though you probably got them all.

[@rishyrish]

Never knew ADULTS to complain about ADULT content in an ADULT game made for ADULTS

[@aceofspades5178]

We failed to defuse the bomb and someone called us the Uvalde police department

[@GoMathewVideo]

The reason this is controversial is because it hits on a topic people prefer to avoid versus doing anything about it. Easier to pretend it doesn't exist if you don't see what happens inside a shooter scenario.

[@WadsworthGaming]

A wonderful use of the replay system to sneak in those cinematic shots, very appreciated! 😄👍

[@oaxUK]

Editing was flawless just saying. Also the map looks dope glad they added it, ik it's a sensitive topic but still glad they stucj to their word and added it.

[@spinechiller567]

It's a sensitive topic because people want to shield reality

[@oaxUK]

I agree. I especially don't understand why people dislike this map although literally all the maps in Ready or not feature all sorts of horrible crime which should be (in my opinion) shown on the internet for everyone to see how bad it truly is, but of course this is just a game.@@spinechiller567

[@Caesium_I]

My respect for SWAT has double when you realise they have a 2-3% death rate over 250 calls and when civilians try it they have 3 dead in 7 minutes

[@bertojo]

Hold up, so not only are the devs throwing light uppon a real issue in the US, but they also went out of their way to make it one of the most immersive map? Props to them, I'll be buying.

[@Jewifer333x2]

The AI in this has become simply put too aimbottish. They're trying hard to make them more aggressive but now they're just tracking through walls. Watched it happen several times yesterday.

[@uss_liberty_incident]

The "No crack for you" mod helps a lot.

[@Tyson-i7r]

Call of Duty players: first time

[@TheRealBillix]

@@Tyson-i7rmassive cope incoming:

[@jason200912]

In reality criminals tend to blind fire, shoot one handed, and also throw their rounds while running and shoot backwards.

[@jaefrmbk2k]

don't give up Cuz

[@GamerNxUSN]

Plot twist, you're playing as Uvalde PD so it's just standing there at the starting point for 77 minutes.....

[@A_Random_Dude_Typing_Nonsense]

you know Law Enforcement officials can use this as an introduction and simulation of sorts for trainees to what to do and not do in this type of situations, after all mass shootings have become quite common as of late, and they must prepare should one take place

[@IlovecheeseIwantcheese]

That is actually a good idea to teach newbies/trainees on the basic so they wont die in action

[@ruick78]

Not a bad idea, but saddly simulation vs reality can take a quick change in persons thought process. Maybe im wrong just how i view it.

[@Charlie1776_]

America moment

[@skinnyjeanis7177]

yeah actually, the devs just need to tweak the shooters' reaction times and not have them wander on high alert with guns up until they're certain you're after them.

[@MankySwift]

that should already be a thing i mean cmon pilots have flight simulators, why not have vr training or some shit with the tech we have these days its a no brainer!

[@JDGtheanimator]

The horrors of this world need to be highlighted in order for people to be informed, if you dont like this, then YOU need to work to make the world you hear about and see depicted in games like Ready or Not a better place instead of complaining about seeing it because it makes your feelings hurt, people need to see and experience things that hurt their feelings so they can work to fix the problem, thats the real way we improve as people and a community.

[@jaefrmbk2k]

hypocrisy alert. think deep about that

[@Ww1whiz1914]

2:06 did not expect her to be found, damn… if I wasn’t feeling fear, sadness, uncertainty, and unrest, I certainly am now because a chill ran up my abdominal cavity.

[@elitely6748]

It's a good thing devs still put this in but also a good choice for it to be a college probably. Wonder what details people are gonna notice on this map

[@636ari]

I got goosebumps not even 30 seconds into the vide, boy am I glad void interactive has a spine.

[@rcl8793]

I thought this would be a level where a cop checks his phone for 30 minutes

[@muffinshutchins7008]

I love how people are complaining about this level for involving a sensitive topic/scenario, yet they seemed to get over Call of Duty's "No Russian" mission fairly quickly (despite you doing FAR more heinous acts in that level compared to here). It's even more ironic when you consider how "No Russian" was still included in the recent CoD remake, and was therefore recreated in more graphic detail. 🙄

[@NamesZKP]

They also don't care about GTA shooting up random civilians on the street. It's like they only care about a particular kind of violence.

[@TheFirstCurse1]

No Russian actually should be despised and is controversial. It never needed to be in that game and it's a stain on both COD and gaming as a whole. That mission should have been deleted and purged from every copy a long time ago.

[@wodekw6862]

All of those things were controversional when they came out, do you people have short memory or didn't interracted with anybody

[@cassandra_classic]

Imagine making a swat game and not including a school shooting situation. That’s like making a fighter jet game without an A-10 Warthog

[@cideltacommand7169]

Bruh, the a10 is ground attack, not a fighter jet and its way too overrated

[@trolliffy115]

​@@cideltacommand7169The thing caused the most American deaths in the air than all our fighters. Thank goodness it's being replaced with the Warden or whatever that crop duster is called.

[@BreakifyTV]

3:56 "He's running into uncleared space" "It's whatever" LMAO

[@Charlie1776_]

Realistic

[@SeventhCircle77]

Funny thing I witnessed the other day. In the discord they were talking about this map and how it has changed. There was one user who was genuinely mad that they changed to a college. They wanted it to be in an elementary school. Another user later said "when are they releasing the map where you are the shooter". Some people are sick

[@clocks954]

Average discord shenanigans

[@Albus_Rex]

Those users glow in the dark.

[@MaxLai_0104]

second one was probably just joking

[@subliminus]

This game has more balls to include this than the Uvalde and Parkland Police departments

[@HighBluey]

Because their the ones without their lives on the line

[@subliminus]

@@HighBlueyfor some officers it's easy to just say: "when the job gets tough, you can just hide outside while children get gunned down while you were the only protection those kids had." After all, it's not their responsibility to actually protect anyone, nor can anyone hold them accountable.

[@ImStillMarz]

This shows just how terrifying being an officer can be, and just how tragic situations like this are. Ready Or Not will be one of the best representations of just how dark our world can be, and the individuals who risk their lives to help.

[@pelago_]

That’s intense. I think they handled the subject really well though, nothing in that mission glorified the situation or was overtly gory, and it didn’t pull punches.

[@MrPi72]

You guys did the right thing. Also: you really delivered something substantial with this game. i thought RoN would get dull after one or two levels, because it would be "all the same" from there. but you made every map with so much detail and love, the gameplay feels so realistic yet rewarding, satisfying gunplay.. hats off to you. It deserves all the hype it is getting rn.

[@destro4]

the first 2 minutes. man, I had to pause for a minute. thats some incredible acting

[@robdun6137]

You know it's serious when there's no deus ex music in the intro.

[@olympusmons8439]

What song is it from dues ex?

[@robdun6137]

@@olympusmons8439 TF29 from deus ex mankind divided

[@livingreverie5951]

I still remembered one of my team’s runs on this map and how after our 5th got back (his wife came home and had to talk to her about stuff) after multiple attempts to 4 man, we got the map down well to have a plan set up. 3 guys head left while 2 head right, we pushed for suspects and got all civs to get on their knees. Prio were the bombs and we found one. I was on the right when we got caught in a gunfight, 2 v 2 as the left side guys were defusing the first bomb and searching for the second. Second we saw that “Bring Order to Chaos” was dinged complete, we fucking booked it to find the last bomb. Found and defused as we restrained the rest as I checked our time: 5 minutes, 19 Seconds

[@jason200912]

Wonder hiw they decide in real life who gets 3 and who has to clear their area with only 2.

[@Arthur-i3p]

@@jason200912coin toss probably

[@chestbrah1592]

Damn, it's hard to watch after a school shooting in Prague...

[@Leonidas-ns1qd]

No it’s not

[@childreninmybasement1]

ikr, im czech and this is a national tragedy

[@TheFirstCurse1]

​@@childreninmybasement1I really hope that it doesn't become a daily occurrence like it is over here in the US. Make sure that no far-right corrupt politicians are in office to allow these things to happen. It'll save your country.

[@kevindellatore]

Personally I think this map was originally planned to be a high school, look at the OG teaser. They obviously realized that regardless of the stance of their fans or even their own personal beliefs, it would be bad to have a map with actual children on the map, not just the shooter, but as regular civilians too, esp with the ability to just roll in and drop everything that moves. So they went with a college since almost everyone at college is an adult, unless you got young Sheldon running around or something

[@oddn6158]

That's true I didn't realize that. The main problem isn't about the highschool itself and how the game revolves around it, but the playerbase playing the game. You don't want a game where the people playing it could kill minors. That is why GTA V has no children in the game.

[@5554-c1i]

Tbh if Young Sheldon was in the map there'd be second objective to neutralize

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

Young Sheldon finally snapped…

[@depressedmidlifecrisistimm3043]

Sheldon has had enough

[@mattc7420]

Dude, give these actors an Oscar!

[@xxkillbotxx7553]

I swear to god if I see this comment one more time I'm going to go postal. "Give the Fiverr actor an oscar!"

[@nWo_remiix]

yea i love when video games push boundaries, mw2 2009 with the "no russian" mission, or gta's missions, red dead's missions

[@PotionSlammerGaming]

Nothing hits harder than than a map based on an actual event. I hope Ready or Not keeps building missions based on real events

[@KingSlayer_117]

stuff like this happens. this is reality those who hate it don't live in reality

[@TryingtoTellYou]

Those who live in that reality don't want it repeated.

[@KB-gd6fc]

The only problem with these active shooter maps is that any modern department’s standard operating procedure WILL NOT have officers waiting on a SWAT team. The first arriving officers immediately make entry and head towards the sound of gunfire to engage the shooter.

[@themoongateofficial]

Not uvalde cops

[@itsmecrosby4723]

I do completely understand the criticism this mission will be facing, but society simply does not fix its problems or heal itself without recognising and acknowledging them and why they occur. Good on Void for defying those who'd rather ignore the problem than realise it and live in a bubble of ignorance. Talking about the problem is the first step of fixing it, hopefully this can push people to do that.

[@justathought2260]

i think its more glorifying the issue through people wanting to be the saviors.

[@Dmacxxx77]

Yeah I think most people just want to bury their head in the sand and act like these things don't happen daily.

[@TryingtoTellYou]

Is it their intention to push for political change? No. They just want your money. If they were lobbyists, I would be fine but they are not, they are swindlers and disgust me.

[@jason200912]

One study showed that exaggerated news coverage actually increased mass shooting (non gang shootings as those are over drug disputes) They found that when media over reported on a mass shootings, more. Ass shootings followed suit and it emboldened crazed depressed males into getting some fame before they die And that when the media was too busy reporting on a massive natural disaster despite a mass shooting, mass shootings went down vecause they didn't give the story any attention and focused on the natural disaster.

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

@@Dmacxxx77 They don’t happen daily, but I share your sentiment.