The Marvels Fails Basic Storytelling

[@TehWhiteTiger]

Damn the 'Don't meet your hero' journey you described would have been such a good idea. Not only would it give this movie direction but it would give them a change to save the absolute mess they made of Captain Marvel, explaining why she is an emotionless husk of a character.

[@Seattletyy93]

Unfortunately they're in such denial about Captain Marvels unlikable personality, that couldn't happen

[@gorofaiz]

I heard him and wanna see that suggsested idea, it would be awesome like another different duo Spider-Man Iron Man relationshio, but in this arc, Ms Marvel is the one who brought Capt Marvel into her senses...

[@AnessaSellsHouses]

Going by Ms Marvel, it seemed like they were teasing to do that story in the movie - Remember Kamala's rewrite of the Endgame battle? Guess Marvel's too afraid to explore flaws in Carol because to them, it'd be like a dent on a new toy than a character's journey. As if her role in Infinity Saga wasn't enough, this movie's plot literally demands her be confronted with consequences of her actions and they still didn't do that.

[@tiefblau2780]

It baffles me that ppl think Experts Journalist Activist Economist acutally knows something... When yourself dont go out there and try new things.

[@AmitSingh-vt6ws]

THIS EXACTLY. They could've used the fact that a lot of people don't like captain marvel to their advantage.

[@technomancermagus8357]

To be fair, when trhe Director was hired, she told them that she had another project that she had already committed to in 3 years. Disney said "No problem, this is a 2 year project, and even if it runs over we have an entire year." She "left" at the 3 and 1/2 year mark to fulfill her prior commitment. That's on Disney for mismanagement, not a sign that she wasn't interested in the movie. The movie was done on time, then Disney wanted reshoots and to rework the entire script.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

Yeah, I did originally go into that in my original script and cut it for time. I made a point that a director actually passionate about a project still wouldn’t have left it unfinished and it was clear where her priorities were.

[@jcboyle82]

@@ajourneythroughcinema1271she had contractual agreements, you can’t just assume they weren’t invested when contracts are involved. Why would you cut something that important “for time”? It would have taken 5 seconds to mention. Hell, you could have removed all your points about her “not caring” and saved a lot of time.

[@iamsh0t0]

@@jcboyle82thank you for mentioning this! I had no idea and what you said was facts! It just goes to show that he like many creators don’t have integrity and just want to push agendas. He made sure to talk about “marvel wants to have diversity but blah blah blah” while leaving out super important context. Trash asf but to be expected smh … again thank you for calling him out

[@technomancermagus8357]

@@ajourneythroughcinema1271 I'm passionate about my work, but if my boss asks me to stay over a year after the end of my agreed upon work contract knowing I have a contract with another company to start work, I'm going to tell them to pound sand. It's important to keep in mind that the movie was finished at the 2 year part... then Disney decided to rework the script, and demanded she lead the reshoots. Which she did for another year, before finally having to leave because Disney kept wanting more. That said, studio micromanaging and changing the director's vision that they had originally agreed upon is a sure fire way to kill passion for a project. That's also on the Studio, not the director for not being happy after the studio pisses all over their work and changes it.

[@davedsilva]

Contracts are adjusted to accomodate Nd there are simple ways to avoid public disclosure. It's how business works. Don't blame her. Disney set themselves up as the old bloated cow carcus. She knew she wasn't expected to succeed having no relevant experience with the genre and budget. Just like Brie, it was easier to publically abandon the project before it airs and blame men for the failure of this Barbie End Game. There will always be Simps to cover their tracks.

[@AHersheyHere]

The chaos of Iron Man makes it even more impressive that the end product was as good as it was.

[@hamhockbeans]

Remember many was saying the fire from the Mark I in Ironman was CGI well that behind scenes showed it was real.

[@Rainbowxpride89]

Loved your point about Monica Rambeau being a grown woman still hurt over her babysitter leaving when more important issues were at stake. The fact that an adult wouldn't understand that is mindboggling. Your review is the only one that I've seen so far to acknowledge this.

[@hypercortical7772]

did you guys watch the first movie? Carol wasn't a babysitter, Carol was a very close aunt, close to the extent that she was almost like a second mother.

[@Handle35667]

@@hypercortical7772did you watch the first movie? Carol had already been gone for years when she showed up for a day or two and then let again. “Second mother”. that is Clown talk.

[@merdufer]

Iron Man worked without a finished script because Robert Downey Jr *was* Tony Stark. Ms. Marvel managed to be a bright spot in this mess because Iman Vellani *is* Kamala Khan. Brie Larson has no idea who Carol Danvers is supposed to be, so she let all the rewrites and reshoots pull her in every different direction. The way the MCU makes movies only works if they luck into actors who embody the characters.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

I would say many of Marvel’s successes could be attributed to strong characterization and the right actors- examples being Hemsworth, Evans, Bozeman, Holland, Downey, and more. As I said, I like Larson is a lot of stuff but she may have been miscast in the role or Marvel never gave her solid direction. Thanks for watching!

[@MamaMOB]

​@@ajourneythroughcinema1271Don't give them credit for Holland that was Sony.

[@abandonmarkspeare5213]

​@@MamaMOBthe creativity all goes to Marvel..

[@davedsilva]

Brie claimed she joined Mavel Studio to push her woke agenda. Having no fellow actors left to emancipate or lecture, and since the bad guy was a girlie seeming girl, she completed her arc so flopped during screen play.

[@maravreloaded]

Brie Larson embodies the perfect Mary Sue type of character the nu-Captain Marvel is. Now if we're talking of Carol Danvers a.k.a the ORIGINAL Ms. Marvel, sure she has absolutely NO CHARACTER TRAITS compared to her.

[@cariganpintalba9498]

The improvisation in Iron Man worked because they got the characters right. This is what so few people, if any, get about comics that actual fans of the comics have always understood. It’s about the characters. Always has been. Always will be. The stakes may not be cosmic like Infinity War, but if they’re huge for the character then it matters more to the fans. Spider-Man wasn’t fighting to save the universe or even the world in the first movie. He was saving people. The kids in the tram, Mary Jane and his own life. It was personal for the character because he lost his uncle by failing to act. Now Spider-Man must always act or risk failing like that again, but what if he takes the wrong action?

[@Janx14]

Oddly enough I think this is also why No Way Home was still enjoyable for me, unlike most of phase 4. It was about all 3 spidermen and it seemed the writers knew the villains from the old movies too. It was effectively, "what if we got all 3 spidies and their villains in a room?" and had fun with it.

[@ccelite3782]

Not every movie needs to have world-ending stakes. It makes the Avengers movies feel pointless if a solo character can save the world all by themselves.

[@psycho4115]

​@@ccelite3782and that type of threat takes away all feelings of tension and worry because you know that the world is not going to end in that series/movie because there are more projects that will come out later. On the other hand, in a more grounded and personal tone, where the threat only attacks certain people, even people important to the protagonist, it can give you more tension.

[@tiefblau2780]

It baffles me that ppl think Experts Journalist Activist Economist acutally knows something... When yourself dont go out there and try new things.

[@sahabatgamerID]

The problem with Captain Marvel was she is not a great character to begin with. Unless they used the Jack Kirby vision of Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers old alterego).

[@oddmofo]

I don't think you can blame the director or even the writers anymore. At the end of the day, Marvel Studios has the last say and have shown that the "content" is coming out no matter what. Maybe this changes their minds.

[@MM-vs2et]

Yeah, if a movie director just wants to get a movie they're making over and done with as soon as possible, that's a sign they're stuck under contract. Nia DaCosta probably doesn't want anything to do with the movie, but is forced to work on it by contract.

[@EvilAnomaly]

Was the FIRST thing I was thinking when he went on and on about the director. Don't think she's the blame either...just the face of this failed project. At the end of the day this is MARVEL itself.

[@CDProjekt7]

Agreed. I think many of the directors have very little independence and control over their movies when it comes to marvel. And they can be a name to blame if the movie sucks.

[@technomancermagus8357]

@@MM-vs2et She told Disney that she had a project she was already committed to in 3 years or so. Disney promised her a 2 year commitment to The Marvels. She shot the movie and it was done in 2 Years. Then Disney decided they wanted to redo the script and reshoot large parts of the movie and she gave them another year dedicated to the movie, and then when her commitment to the other movie went live told them that she wasn't going to break that commitment because Disney can't get it's shit together.

[@joshportie]

They dont have any writers. They have ignorant children who type. And yes I can blame them for brainwashing people.

[@Hellgrinde]

100% agree man. Really glad to see a respectfully done critique. Hard to find these days.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching

[@danielvictor3262]

genuinely hurting my sides over the thumbnail fraturing the actress having a maniacally creepy breakdown saying "I don't need a script!"

[@AHersheyHere]

Monica Rambeau's anger towards someone breaking a promise for the greater good makes me wonder if she is a Kree. The idea that they missed the obvious 'don't meet your heroes' arch is so bad. They brought in two extra characters but, never asked what they wanted to do with them.

[@suezcontours6653]

I am curious. If Monica Rambeau is the first female Captain Marvel in the comics and not Carol, would it have made a difference to start the first movie with her???? Or would people still complain about an original black female Superhero? Isn't this the reason why raceswapping Ariel was a thing? Because its a risk for OG minority characters. Not gonna lie, I am little relieved that the first Captain Marvel movie experimented with a white female Superhero first before throwing in a black one. America is just not ready yet. We gotta wait till white people are a minority

[@Keruthesage]

Not just that but she hardly has any reason for us fans to care about her

[@suezcontours6653]

@@Keruthesage Maybe to you but black fans were excited about Monica. And there's way MORE BLACK PEOPLE on Earth than white people - in fact, whites are dying more than they're reproducing. Disney is definitely trying to expand into Africa. Jeff Bezo's just opened an Amazon in the later half this year.

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

I mean it was co-written by Zeb Wells who (no matter what medium he is writing) is known for not knowing even the most basic of writing and storytelling concepts.

[@hothotheat3000]

Blaming the director is wrong in this instance. These movies are made by committee. The director had no say in how this thing turned out. They hire unknown because unknowns are easier to control.

[@iamcase1245]

"These movies are made by committee. The director had no say in how this thing turned out. " - This was the criticism from fans early on but Nia Dacosta called the criticism sexist/racist. She brought this on herself.

[@souvikbose8282]

​@@iamcase1245I swear this is simultaneously the dumbest and the funniest shit I ever heard

[@stuart6478]

women are agreeable

[@L337M4573RK]

They had Captain Marvel commit GENOCIDE between movies, and they expect the audience to sympathize with Captain Marvel for not wanting to be called out for her actions. Maybe Marvel shouldn't have their characters commit GENOCIDE if they want them to be "relatable" to the audience.

[@leebishop7591]

When Costa says she needed to pay her bills from taking this movie, it shows.

[@Rihcterwilker]

The "hate" (not really hate, criticism) the main protagonist received was kind of deserved. She showed to be insuferably annoying and rude in interviews, complained about "White man bad", that kind of stuff. She was basically patronizing the main target audience of these hero movies, for whatever reason.

[@jasonpocaro2730]

There WAS a script. It was abandoned by the editor 😂

[@Narsty_Boy]

I took my dad to see Iron Man 1 with me. He's NOT fan of comic books or anything like that, but he actually enjoyed it. I really doubt the same thing would happen with the Marvels.

[@pops99]

This is interesting, second rate writing, second rate acting yet Disney is blaming the fans for not getting a first rate outcome?

[@eyewan-p3f]

if the marvels had had the same amount of cameos as deadpool 3 or dr strange 2 or Spiderman no way home it would have made 2 billion dollars at the box office

[@Blue_Lunacy]

In some way, this felt like Ayer's Suicide Squad, in that he had only 6 weeks to write the whole movie. So, of course, there were probably no time for any draft to be done. I wonder if the writers here have time to write.

[@danielroden9424]

i like the idea of meeting your hero and seeing all the rough edges and tough choices and yeah maybe the person isnt bubbly because of the weight she bears. it DOES write itself but marvel writers are straight up incompetent. jujutsu kaisen had swapping places as a power (not a curse) and it is used tactically and its exciting and fun. again, they could have used it as a template and had one of them figure out how to swap places with other things or people and lead to all kinds of insanity.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

Yeah the swapping places idea could have been a blast if they had thought it out more and created more inventive sequences. They really only had that first one. Thanks for watching!

[@patricksainclair2384]

7:10 was the BEST point said about the potential of the script. Sadly it'll never happen.

[@InDeathWeLove]

Pretty sure the actress for Kamala/Miss Marvel.was the only one working on the movie that had any passion for being there. I don't think most of the other actors(at least the main line) were excited to be there, I don't think the director was, I don't think most of the VFX and other people behind the camera were and I don't think Disney/Marvel as a company was. I feel they should have cut most if not all of Monica and Nick Fury. Also most of the musical planet and flerken "humor". Instead focused on the story being about Kamala coming into her own as a hero by finally meeting her hero Captain Marvel and finding out Captain Marvel isn't actually like the idol she has been seeing her as. Then build a conflict between Miss Marvel and Captain Marvel putting Miss Marvel's naive optimistic view on heroism as someone who hasn't seen much against Captain Marvel's more pragmatic view on heroism that's come from decades of trying to help people. Have the movie go through various characters and locations that show Carol's "failings" as a hero. Either outright failings where she failed to save the day and/or situations where she was the hero, but saving the day came with consequences rather than simply being the idyllic resolution Kamala sees a hero as providing clashing with her image of what Carol and in turn a hero can be expected to be. You could even slot the current villain in here as a stark reminder of some of Carol's "failings" at least from Kamala's perspective as her actions indirectly lead to the impending doom of a planet and species. Still feel the villain would need some serious improvements both design and character-wise, but it would at least all work towards the main theme of the conflict between Kamala and Carol. That would also give Kamala a real character arc going from the naive little girl that idolises Carol and has wildly unrealistic expectations regarding what it means to be a hero in the real world to a young adult who still wants to be a hero, but knows that it comes at a cost and it isn't just all sunshines and rainbows as you save people. This would fill most of the movie with a level of tension until it is resolved at the climax when Kamala learns to accept Carol as who she is and not the image she had of her. This would them make Kamala a more valid super heroine going forward and would make her more likeable as the audience has been there with her through the growth. Maybe you can also have a smaller arc about how Carol re-learns some of the positivity/optimism from Kamala, but it doesn't really make much of a difference since I doubt she will be appearing in Marvel movies much more going forward going by her own feelings regarding it and how the character has been handled since her first movie.

[@MonStarGuy]

I think it's ironic that a company hires a Black woman as the director in order to appear "woke"and check off the diversity boxes, then the second the film appears not to be doing well they throw her under the bus. Nia Decosta predicted the backlash saying "this is Kevin Feigi's film" 2 weeks before Marvel threw her under the bus. Marvel Studios kneecapped her creatively at every turn, so she left the film in post production (which actually happens all the time in Hollywood) out of frustration that the work she put in wasn't being respected by the studio who hired her. This isn't Nia Decosta's failing, this is a failing of Disney executives destroying their franchises for maximum profit. Nia Decosta was just a convenient fallguy for an insidious corporation's failures at writing, producing, and marketing a successful film.

[@pilouuuu]

At this point it should be clear they are using the minorities, not helping them.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

You could very well be right, but a director should not leave a project half finished anymore than a painter leave a painting half done. They are in charge of the creative vision and should see it through to the best the project can be.

[@joeygamer5387]

​@ajourneythroughcinema1271 Ever since Stan Lee died, lots of things felt half baked. These executives need someone courageous enough to tell them to stop what they’re doing and evaluate "What makes a hero a hero". Like Stan used to. Otherwise, give the property back to the people that truly started the Marvel Studios. Paramount.

[@BlackStarrTurnsHeel]

Instead of Dar Ben they should've had Zawe Ashton play the role of Moonstone. That would've made a more interesting story and villain due to Captain Marvel and Moonstones history which also involves the Thunderbolt's, a movie that's supposed to be in development. 2+2=4💡🤦

[@cookinwitp0ppin331]

Movie wasn’t that bad and for all the hate Brie Larson/Captain Marvel gets…it was decent. Definitely wasn’t the worst. I think Thor the dark world holds that crown. I went in with low expectations for this film and wasn’t disappointed like everyone seems to be. Nobody was craving to see this and then let down *cough*drstrange2*cough* This movie did what it was intended to do, which was pave a road for X-men. The hate for this movie has already exceeded the level of hate of Love n thunder. And that shit was complete ass from top to bottom

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

I’m with you in Brie Larson getting too much hate when the issues seem to be with the characterization. However this movie still is likely in the bottom 3 for Marvel Studios imo. Just didn’t work for me. Thanks for watching!

[@cookinwitp0ppin331]

@@ajourneythroughcinema1271 I could give you 5 really bad MCU movies and the Marvels still not on the list lol Eternals….Black widow….Thor the dark world…Thor love n thunder and Captain marvel.

[@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox]

@@cookinwitp0ppin331eternals atleast had good action and characters with motivations

[@cookinwitp0ppin331]

@@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox Eternals was Mid and too long. Went to see it twice cuz I fell asleep the first time…2nd time I still fell asleep

[@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox]

@@cookinwitp0ppin331 not saying it wasn’t mid but atleast it had fights and good CGI

[@YnotNomis]

This is the best review on why this movie is not good in the most reasonable way.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

Thank you and thanks for watching!

[@crumesd]

I can’t stress this enough. Disney/Marvel has had top tier actors and actresses at their disposal; they have zero clue what to do with them. Even Bri isn’t a bad actress despite the hate she gets; quite sad really.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

She has a lot of potential but I don’t think they ever cracked this character from the conceptual stage so she never had much to work with. That is a real waste and shame

[@omgwtfrofltomato]

I have found youuuuuu. A reasonable, balanced reviewwwwww. THANK YOUUUUU (SUBBED).

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

Welcome aboard!

[@ChrisisisB]

3:29 ”A movie start with an idea”. Well, almost, a movie starts with an idea, but when a studio has no clue beyond ”lets make another installment”….. 10:25 Edit: Ohh, you said that later…

[@RobertJamesGabriel]

Just stumbled across your channel. I'm super early to a future KZbin star

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

Thank you and I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@joshwilson2271]

The Villian played the same awful “bad person with a stick” in Disney’s Decendants 3.

[@mediawarrior5957]

Blaming WOKE just simplistic and glosses over so many major problems facing the MCU and Disney.

[@EvilAnomaly]

Went in a bit on the director but I'm going to have to disagree with ya. She didn't care because her bosses didn't care and likely didn't want her caring to much about the project. MARVEL has been sloppy since End Game regardless of directors. There's been some okay affairs in the mix since then (some hyped up beyond what they were IMHO) but this is not really much on the director either. This is just the good ole "House Of Mouse" and Kevin Fiege

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

My issue more with the director was in leaving a project unfinished. It was clear her priorities were elsewhere and this was a gun for hire gig. She left for the project that actually spoke to her and I legitamatly really hope it turns out well…but she’s still part of the problem with THIS film imo. Thanks for watching!

[@davedsilva]

Great critique. The actual plot was Space Balls swapping out the giant vaccum cleaner robot lady with a Quantum Barbie Bangled HR lady. It sounds like a great low budget straight to DVD 90's movie for the teenage comedy girl-power section of Blockbusters.

[@sageofchange7443]

I think it’s like the first Ratchet and Clank game, except worse. Two of the protagonists are at odds but isn’t fleshed out in a interesting way, the villain is so forgettable. I laughed under my breath when I saw how empty the cinema was. I agree, best bit was when the swapping occurred at the start.

[@mediawarrior5957]

This film should have been a S2 of Ms Marvel. One where Kamala meets her hero and She trains and mentors her to be the hero she needs to be.

[@macmcleod1188]

I don't really blame the director because it's my understanding that control of it was taken away from her by a committee and by the pre-visualization team. That's like hiring someone to be your manager and then cutting them out of meetings with the staff.

[@darthbiscuit]

she wanted to make a time travel movie? this director should be kept away from all fan loved stories

[@MonStarGuy]

Every movie since Thor: Love & Thunder has been written by AI and edited by committee.

[@pilouuuu]

They even joke about it in She-hulk. It's not a joke.

[@Joshpower57]

I hate to say this(because this is infuriating) women dont seem to care about actually writing good female characters. I think its going to fall on male directors to stop the girl boss troupe and actually write female characters that people can connect with. I wish Emily Blunt started to direct because she has done some of the best female characters and knows how to properly represent the characters.

[@ir9567]

Because a TINY TINY percent were into comics. And guess what? We like romance but for some reason(well I know why), yall Nerds now in charge not only HATE Alpha men but you want to make us into your Alpha's!! I can't think of any woman who likes Danvers or who'd want to see 3 not very fit boring average attractive looking women who are angry all the time. We loved Rogue from X-Men if you want a bad azz female (circa comic books NOT movie adaptations).

[@AnessaSellsHouses]

You're going to blame Nia DaCosta for this and not Kevin Feige?

[@johnaart]

LOKI blew me away...Just WOW...I cant stop thinking about that ending 💗💗💗

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

Really loved it. We need more stuff of that quality

[@quantumofconscience6538]

These movies have been made bad on purpose since 2015, with The Force Awakens. Either that, or Disney has no idea about the basic formulas for making good movies Hollywood has known about since 1939.... Gone With The Wind, Wizard of Oz, etc. (Yes... I've heard about the concept that stock companies need to make money.)

[@elcambiollego]

I knew I was dreaming when I saw an add about a Tarantino diected Marvel movies, rated R.

[@wardjunior1450]

I’ve had an annoying headache since I watched the marvels. That may be because I went drinking that night but who knows. I have said headache as of writing this. Bloody annoying.

[@Frenzyshark]

Loki was good! I don't know if they can or will make a movie out of it but how it all wrapped up was interesting. It's a tough task to ask anyone to watch 2 seasons of Loki but I'd say it's worth it.

[@rclaws3230]

It's awful, holy crap standards are low.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

I think they’ve utilized the multiverse concept better in Loki than anywhere else in this arc. Wherever they go with it next, that last episode was a satisfying conclusion.

[@L337M4573RK]

The villain, Dar Ben, is a wannabe Ronan the Accuser (complete with matching, purple glowing hammer that may or may not contain the Power Stone), but with far less depth and bravado. The only reason she's a threat is because she somehow attained OP abilities on her justified mission of revenge (because of the GENOCIDE caused by Captain Marvel).

[@davedsilva]

Catfight power up

[@ThacoTheGoblin]

Pretty hilarious that A:TLA had a TEENAGE character handle the "you were gone for a good reason and I'm bitter about it" thing better than this grown-ass adult.

[@thetalantonx]

"Unfair hate." Nope, totally fair, justified, carefully cultivated and consciously garnered.

[@kennyhudson9201]

Nah, your heart is just black. The Marvels was a fun movie. Sorry, you can't enjoy anything and likely haven't laughed for real in years.

[@Frog-2001]

@@kennyhudson9201 ok men good for you like this movie, but most people doesn't.

[@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox]

@@kennyhudson9201u laugh at this? U probably laugh at funerals too

[@kennyhudson9201]

@@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox Yeah, because superheroes using super powers is just like a funeral. Geez, do you have a brain to go with that black heart?

[@kennyhudson9201]

@@Frog-2001 "most people doesnt'" Hahaha. English not your first language huh?

[@johnb2119]

You did not watch the movie at all and to prove this the plot of the villain wasn't too open portals destroy other world it was to open portal to take other planet resource and bring her planet back to life that was dying and her people were dying

[@TanvirAhmed-bz2ox]

Ofcourse just opening portal is not the plan bruh everyone with 2iq can understand it

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

I feel for Iman Vellani, Teyonah Parris and the others (not Brie, she already has an amazing career).

[@johnb2119]

I am tired of people on the internet who have to destroy a movie just to get rating What happened to the good old days when a person watched the movie and gave there review of the movie

[@Death_Korps_Officer]

Without watching neither both series related to this movie, and the first film, at what time does Earth recognises the existence of Brie Larson's character? Because if I'm not mistaken, she left Earth somewhat around the 90s, kept herself as a secret/hidden wannabe Green Lantern for almost 30 years, return for Endgame's 5 year gap but only to report herself as an ally to the Avengers, NOT to Earth, and most certainly, not to humans. Then she shows up in the final battle, yes, but does so little she barely even does something worth noticing besides a note on a single page. I'm not saying people wouldn't talk about the Avengers battling Thanos' army, but her worth is...worthless. How did anyone in NY even hear of her, let alone Kamala got herself into being her number 1 fangirl? These is something I haven't seen anyone discuss much.

[@alandesouzacruz5124]

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[@cutechip7098]

I personally liked the movie. But im not delusional enough to say it was without its flaws. ALOT of flaws. And i really hope people dont blame the actors and actresses for this movie. The acting really wasnt that bad. Iman Vallani was Absolutely AMAZING with her acting. Teyonah Parris was fun to watch. Especially in the fight scenes with the way her sound effects and body movement made it seem real. And brie Larson's acting was much better than her acting in the first captain marvel. But no matter how good the acting is or how well the people work together. The script was.......you said it in this video. Dirt. I dont think the mcu as a whole will die out because of this. Theyre still a 50+ billion dollar franchise. But this is definitely a wake up call for them. I honestly love this franchise. I grew up on it. Seeing it flop like this is very sad.

[@andymcgriffy]

The way people are piling on this movie makes me want to see it just to analyze it like an autopsy of a dead body. I literally had no interest in seeing a Marvel movie but now I do and for all of the wrong reasons

[@kennyhudson9201]

You should do it, just to check if your heart is black. If you don't like it, you have a black heart and may even have a health problem preventing dopamine production.

[@johncrane1594]

They've actually probably doomed this poor woman's career in MAJOR motion pictures because the studio always needs someone to blame. She had NO business directing this film. Why doesn't Marvel just listen to their own fanbase? We don't care what color or gender the writers or directors are, just make the script and project entertaining and your fans will ride with you. Its not hard

[@lordofdaflings]

I honestly think the first version of this movie was so heavy on feminist propaganda that they had no choice but reshoot and butcher it beyond redemption.

[@johnferguson4869]

Early childhood abandonment trauma is a big thing. Don’t know how this film treats it, but you can’t just say ‘she’s a 36 year old woman, why is this an issue for her?’ I’m sure some people can just deal with it, but many can’t.

[@belongtotoday]

Sure but there's a big difference between being abandoned so your dad can go drink or cheat ....and being abandoned because someone was literally out saving every galaxy and living being existing. One thinks that once Rambeau was told this, she would shut up finally but she's still like "NO! I don't care! I wanted you to come play BARBIES with me! The galaxy doesn't matter! BARBIES DO! WAHHHHH!" That's the point it gets ridiculous because at nearly 40 it's not unreasonable to expect her to be less selfish, less immature and frankly less logically stupid. Especially since she's supposed to be this big, likeable, relatable hero AND a scientist type character yet she works on the maturity and morality of an overtired 3 year old.

[@jish55]

What's funny is that this film could have easily been great, where the way I would have made it if they absolutely needed to have it be a team up film, was to have it start off showing Carol Danvers doing her schtick around Earth, a couple of years prior (after Endgame before she goes back to space). While she's fighting or whatever, have her commit mass damage that kills people. Fastforward to modern times where Carol is back on Earth again, where there's a big bad, she goes and tries to stop it, going to save a teenaged girl, BUT said teen is Rogue who uses her mutant powers to absorb Carol's powers (and the reason Rogue does this is because one of the people Carol killed was someone Rogue cared about deeply). What this would then do is create true conflict, answer a major problem Captain Marvel has had, give her a legit reason to need help, and introduce the Mutants in full force.

[@ykreview]

Great review man I feel like I’m in the minority where I did have a fun time mostly with the first act but I def can agree with the negatives especially about Nick Fury and agree about the James Gunn comparisons and the story with Kamala and don’t meet your hero’s def should have been explored more

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

I never begrudge someone for liking something! I’m glad you got more enjoyment out of it even if I didn’t. Thanks for watching!

[@eyewan-p3f]

phase 4 and 5 of the mcu are "a game of cameos" the more cameos in your movie !not just in the post credits! the more money you'll make

[@LCal23456]

The Director took the job since Disney is offering the opportunity to set the record for the most expensive film directed by a black woman. It didn’t matter if they have a good script or not. For them what matters is they made the most expensive all chick flick directed by a black lady director. One for the records! Beat that! 😂

[@bethanyflores8248]

Oh wow that is the only praise this movie gonna get

[@rhiannon7163]

It's like disney is trolling the haters! But the haters are making bank on this while disney is bleeding $$$

[@rainofwalrus]

Ironman Sequels were a sign of what was to come. Not even RDJ could save bad scripts.

[@moondoor9031]

They made a movie with 3 average characters and a very unkown villain and expected good results? They should have made a Carol danvers movie and after that introduce in the post credits the other two.

[@sboyk]

This movie suck Captain Marvel Powers are much weaker her power are downgraded so she does not outshine the other. The switching made no since it was completely consistent, they used their power a lot of time and nothing happen it was so random, and the villain was a third-rate discount gender swap Ronan the Accuser. But the worst part was how dump they made Monica Rambeau I don't know when to begin with how bad she was.

[@LordHollow]

How would Ms. Marvel know anything about Captain Marvel enough to be a fan? When would she have heard anything about Danvers?

[@Zakalwe-01]

Unfair hate? Seemed well earned to me.

[@renzero9206]

This movie did have a script. It just happened to be written by ChatGPT.

[@alfiemikhail1106]

I hope they hire the director of The Bye Bye Man for the next Marvel movie.

[@gungdesurya]

Honestly i want to watch this movie at theater with 0 expectations Yeah i got free time on weekend so why not But when i heard there's musical planet and they should communicate with song, i dont think i can sit on the theater and watch that cringe scene for couple minutes Maybe i just wait until it got released on disney+ Its better to rewatch loki s2 on my weekend hahahah

[@hammerofscience534]

Brie has become so cringe I find it hard to even watch her old movies, movies I never even realized she was in because I had no clue who she was then. So good work Brie you are retroactively ruining movies.

[@jaydenyoung9809]

I’ve really stopped watching Marvel as this one continuous story. If a Marvel project is good, I’ll watch it and enjoy it, but it won’t get me invested in the overall story, especially when you see what it leads into. For me, the MCU, or anything their gonna try to do ended with Loki. It feels like a natural conclusion to this whole “multiverse” story beat and everything after that has a good chance of being junk.

[@SarcasticPlotRecaps]

I guess Marvel's The Marvels was no marvel for Marvel! 😅

[@Robert-qv6jq]

I didn't hate it, but the writing was little more than an unfinished script outline.

[@Wolpher]

diversity (Whether cultural, racial or gender-based) has no value, it is not morally right or wrong. It just is. It's not a benchmark of quality for any product

[@ops7917]

What mistakes were in the 1st MCU movie then?

[@aysiskyle9458]

Source material doesn’t matter, just the message and the creative minds of the writers. 🤦🏾‍♀️🙄

[@preng2355]

is this 1 of those filling the ESG checklist quota?

[@rickyspanish3821]

I never knew that Loki Tom Hiddleston is married to the Stick Lady a.k.a. Dar-Benn Zawe Ashton. I wonder how she got this job!?😂

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

I didn’t know that. Learn something every day

[@detree.]

I'll say at the end of the day we have secret wars and kang dynasty to reach that will have more money and better story put into it like the avengers infinity war and endgame. What possibly would happen in captain marvel 2 compared to the avengers movie. They need to show us about the incursions and setting up for a new team in the future. They are trying to set up for the kang dynasty & without this movie will effect all future movies.

[@juiceman8108]

I dont read the script, the script reads me

[@jimmyrodela1738]

Again These people think that we will spend our money on movies like this will spend it on food or rent, reducing their minds

[@mfn1311]

Don’t know if I necessarily would call it unfair hate for Brie Larson, but I definitely understand why she wouldn’t want to go back to Marvel. I honestly don’t like her, but I don’t wish for her career to fail either, and let’s be honest, right now your career will not go anywhere with marvel, it will remain stagnant at best.

[@eyewan-p3f]

phase 4 and 5 of the mcu are "a game of cameos" the more cameos in your movie !not just in the post credits! the more money you'll make. dr strange 2 had so many cameos in the movie, spiderman no way home was full of cameos, deadpool 3 had so many cameos too... the marvels had 1 cameo tessa thompson who wasn't even in full valkyrie mode...and then no cameos until the post credits.... captain america civil war made a billion because of it's cameos.... guardians 3 didn't have cameos but it used the ultimate gimmick 'he it's our last movie as a team..." black panther 2 had no cameos but again with chadwicks death similar to paul walker in fast and furious 7 helped the movie make more money

[@bradmantv]

Monica is a grown woman who lost her mother while she was blipped. And Marvel is the only connection to her mother.

[@Ave_Christus_Rex3777]

The M. C. U was born and died with IronMan. Disney needs to let the mcu rest and join its ranks on cinematic masterpieces like Star Wars(Original Trilogy), The Lord of the Rings, Charlie Chaplin movies, Monty Python movies and so on. If this goes on then noone will remember mcu for the masterpiece it is, but for the abomination it has become

[@estudianteepidemiologia3773]

The Marvels length is 1 hour and 45 minutes , i think I've seen way more than that on videos of Critics destroying The Marvels 😂

[@hatuletoh]

Marvel has proven that women can direct and star in movies that fail every bit as spectacularly as any movie made by, and staring, men.

[@IronKore]

When you said she got unfair hate, told me, nah

[@octosalias5785]

A comment brushed on the major problem. There is no consistency of characterization. If Doctor Strange needs to be responsible hes the most responsible person in the MCU, if he needs to be a dipshit suddenly hes a drooling moron. Carol Danvers has this ten times worse because they never figured out who she is, and worse she doesnt have an arc. Strong women cant show weakness therefore no flaws, no arcs. Its bland. Tony Stark is compelling because he makes mistakes, huge ones, and fixes them in creative ways (sometimes even that is a flaw, when he goes too far)

[@JorJorIvanovitch]

Captain Marvel was way better in the comics Civil War 2 when Carol fought Tony over how to use the visions of the Inhuman kid to prevent future crimes (Minority Report). I mean Bruce Banner is assassinated, it is claimed Miles Morales will murder Captain America Steve Rogers, etc. The Ultimates team Carol leads which features the Blue Marvel (a superpowers scientist who is also black) has decent stories. Why don't Disney script writers read comic material which is often much better written than what they produce?

[@jerryrichards8172]

There are so many original marvel co ic story lines already in place just pick a good one.

[@ZachAttackReviews]

It was a well-thought-out video, but I don't think your jabs at Nia Dacosta were warranted. She talked about how much she put into the film so much. People have left during post-production before. I agree that the Meet Your Heroes arc could have been fleshed out, but they discussed it. There are also narratives you just ignored about the movie. The movie is flawed but not as bad as you painted it.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

The issue is she didn’t just get locked out of the editing room (which often happens- most notably to poor Ridley Scott). The issue is the reports said DaCosta basically walked on her own volition before even extensive reshoots were filmed. It is very possible she was another victim of a studio system behind the scenes, but she is also the director and artists choosing to leave their work unfinished never sits right with me nor ever will. Glad you enjoyed it though! I can’t begrudge someone liking something. But for me this was bottom of the barrel Marvel.

[@ZachAttackReviews]

@@ajourneythroughcinema1271 There is an interview from her mouth not a report saying the movie was in post production, Basically finished so she had to be involved remotely with video and calls. SHe didn't completely abandon the film.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

According to her. And that deserves just as much healthy skepticism as can be afforded to the journalist that reported the story. Especially when directors are under non disclosures through marketing and promotion. My end point is still the same. I found it to be a passionless film in my viewing and the end result makes someone telling me everything went great all the more dubious.

[@ZachAttackReviews]

@@ajourneythroughcinema1271 Im not saying you cant feel like its passionless but don't let outside narratives from unnamed sources influence the take that much.

[@ajourneythroughcinema1271]

This was a story reported in a respected papers with additional stories written in places like the New York Times. It’s not like I got it from TMZ. And it didn’t impact my view on the film. Just my view on how things can happen and the cause and effect. Also it’s not like I just blamed DaCosta. I heaped a lot of fault on the screenwriters and studio as well.

[@eyewan-p3f]

if the x-men were in the main part of the marvels not just in the post credits it would have made 2 billion at the box office phase 4 and 5 of the mcu are "a game of cameos" the more cameos in your movie !not just in the post credits! the more money you'll make

[@happy_jcg]

Brie Larsons hate was completely justified.

[@BoyGeorgiaX]

No matter how bad this movie is it will not reach the injustice of that horrible candyman retelling. The original was terrifying. The new candyman seemed like an anti-woke parody.

[@hombreg1]

Makes me cringe almost as much as that whole "Namor = niño sin amor" thing. Coming from a native Spanish speaker too.

[@Elijah_Dove]

0:02 you need a methadone script to still be watching this dribble.