THE MASTER OF BUSHCRAFT? - VICTORINOX OUTDOOR MASTER

[@adamcooley5594]

Comparisons start at 2:05 The review starts at 2:49

[@CedricAda]

adam cooley haha, someone who is definitely not here for all my avant gard bullshit. Pinned for the rest of y’all

[@CT393]

But why would you not want the bushcraft

[@adamcooley5594]

Sorry. I had a headache and wasn't feeling it at the moment.

[@CedricAda]

adam cooley hah all good its not for everyone

[@adamcooley5594]

Went back and watched without the pounding in my head. Much more enjoyable. Plus, you've sold me...on the Work Sharp.

[@brianmontana5700]

The intro is straight fire...then a prefect transition to a smoldering stump top to display its majestic blade profile then onto the typical Bushcrafters flute solo. No one does it better? 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@zoroutdoor9]

5 Problems with the knife and the marketing used to sell it : 1 it's not the first victorinox fixed blade 2 it's not made in Switzerland by victorinox, it's actually made in Spain by Muela. Also the sheat #swissmademyass 3 it is way too overpriced 4 in the market there are tons of way better options to choose from, also saving money 5 the steel could may be ok for a low cost knife or a multi tool, it's too soft for that type of knife, it will dull or damage too fast.

[@greekveteran2715]

Well said, probably the last knife I would buy, no matter if it says Vicotrinox, it's not a Victorinox. However,Victorinox is and will ever be, the BEST pocket knife and multitool company. PS if it had a different blade shape, 3mm blade thickness and a carbon steel, I would defenetally buy it, no matter if it is made in spain. Problem with Muela and Nieto, is that they use stainless steels on their fixed blades, if they would change that, their knives would be much much more suitable for the job that they are built, thus much more popular.

[@hunterglaspell5580]

zoro that’s 100% false advertising

[@zoroutdoor9]

@@hunterglaspell5580 That's 100% true, that's not the first victorinox fixed blade, in fact victorinox make great kitchen knife for years, all swiss made. They could had easily made a good fixed blade, hidden tang or stick tang, with plastic handle in their facility, and that could have been a mora killer and a good competitor for all the knife made in north europe. But instead they gave the production to muela in Spain to sell a mediocre knife at hight price. The fact that is overpriced can be easily see by anyone, check the market price of the other company. The fact that is made in spain by muela can also be checked by everyone, of course victorinox does'nt have any interest in writing that on the blade, but they confermed that when asked. The style and all is tipical of a knife made in Spain. Some famous knife shop even report that information in the description, check this one: www.knivesandtools.com/en/pt/-victorinox-outdoor-master-mic-large-4-2261-outdoor-knife.htm In the end the problem with the soft steel is said in all the video test, Pete said that, the dbk boys said that (their knife took a serious bending on the edge, you can see at the end of their video) I said that, because i've tried other vic with the same steel. That said victorinox is a great brand for multitool, probably they make the best multitool in the world, and they made my favourite plier, wich is the spirit.

[@dasta7658]

Completely agree with what you have said and it has been confirmed by a Victorinox Rep at Shot Show 2020 … kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5DSqXiNnZl8h5o starts talking about Muela etc at 1:22 and goes on to confirm they have had fixed blades previously.

[@mannihh5274]

@zoro: I don't know, what's your problem - if Victorinox puts its name on these blades they seem to meet the Victorinox standards. Most Kerhaws are nowadays made in China, good knives though. Most of the time you get what you pay for.

[@FelixImmler]

Thanks a lot for your interesting feedback!

[@alphadawg81]

Eventhough I'm a bit of a Victorinox fanboy, the price for this knife (with this steel) is outrageous. PS: I love how you're poking at internet bushcrafting. I'm totally part of it.😄

[@footprintsinthesierra2754]

The first minute of this video could be a legit ad of Bushcraft Cologne for Men.

[@joeallen2354]

You are one strange young man.

[@lewisward4359]

KZbin needs a LOL button

[@griffen898]

The intro was the best two minutes of my day.

[@anthonyp7051]

Intro was needed, My secret desire is to have a axe guy glitch in everyone

[@bkturley9964]

Stainless and Kydex. The counsel of bushcraft would never sign off on that. The cargo pants are approved

[@yoadrian3814]

That intro slapped so hard it created a primitive friction fire in my pants. Needless to say, i'm hot and ready for the review

[@JCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJCJC]

Very happy you decide you review this. Thanks

[@dm3639]

Pete, you are the right kind of weird. Your intros get me to watch videos of knives I have no interest in.

[@barmherzigsein6836]

The majority of your reviews are, IMO, EXCELLENT. This particular review, however, was BETTER! Top Marks, 007. Why better than your „usual excellence“? IMO, these are a few salient reasons: 1) You presented the knife‘s significant design characteristics very well: i. Scandinavian grind of ~ 18°; ii. Tiny but significant microbevel, and you demonstrated the microbevel’s significance; iii. Full Tang; iv. Exposed Tang. 2) You presented the blade’s metallurgical characteristics of greatest importance to real human Bushcraft aficionados (as opposed to androids running AI code in their artificial neurons): i. Type of blade steel; ii. Rockwell Hardness of the blade‘s steel; iii. Practical significance of softer steels used by human „Bushcrafters“, i.e. needs to carry or find the means with which to sharpen a blade and/or straighten a „rolled-over“ Scandi edge; iv. Relative insignificance of this knife’s softer steel for reasonably intelligent human „Bushcrafters“ (humans first resort to stropping their blades to restore a sharp, usable/practical/non-surgical edge, whereas androids attempt to sharpen their blades on cell phones, computer terminals, garden hoses, and Dingos). 3) Because human „Bushcrafters“ consider making a proper campfire to be the 1st or 2nd most important use of a „Bushcraft Knife“, you tested: i. the ease with which this knife‘s spine can be used to generate sparks of sufficient intensity (heat) to light tinder using a Ferrocerium rod; ii. You examined how easily this knife‘s spine gets deformed after a few scrapes of the supplied Ferrocerium rod. (An Android would just light it‘s fingertip Zippo lighter, and is thus capable of lighting a campfire more easily than a human „Bushcrafter“.) I appreciate your review because I actually considered purchasing this knife and, after studying your review and thinking about the presented information, I concluded that this beautiful knife would not serve my needs as a human „Bushcrafter“. Thank you for allowing me to share my observations and perspectives on your KZbin channel. Salome (Live in Peace) und, Mögest du weiterhin im Frieden und SEIN der Schöpfung leben. Auf Wiedersehen!

[@whatbuttondoipush]

Real Steel Bushcraft II(2) is made in D2 at 58-60HRC with scandi-grind and it comes with a multi-position kydex sheath for like a quarter the price. I'm not trying to knock Victoorinox or your video at all. I'm just letting your fans (which I am one) that you don't need to drain your bank account to get a very high quality knife. I look forward to your next video (yes, I clicked the bell.)

[@CedricAda]

whatbuttondoipush I also have a great review up of the bushcraft 2 :)

[@freenational]

What very high quality knive is that would not drain your bank account?

[@lostcat9lives322]

Too bad it's made in the People's Republic of China. Is that where you live?

[@whatbuttondoipush]

@@lostcat9lives322 Thanks for replying to my year old comment. I in fact live in the United States of America. Are you on a phone right now? Guess where that was made!?!?! If you want a really good American product, get a Benchmade 200 Puukko in CPM-3V. An amazing blade that is made in Clackamas, Oregon with American super steel. I got one about year ago for $120.

[@wallytaggart2612]

Yeah...I think the knife is a tad bit overpriced...especially since there's no corkscrew...it's a good looking knife though...by your face and mannerisms, I think you were being as kind as you could when you could have been shitting on it

[@daeholm]

I always use a striker with a ferro rod in order to keep the spine sharp for scraping tinder or whatever. if you round off the edge of the spine you need to remove a lot of steel to get it back to 90 degrees.

[@justinpatrickhoffman]

You are on a roll sir! For the love of the world, please don't stop!

[@mistersmith3986]

Dang! Your legs are so BRIGHT, I had to were a welding mask to watch this. Thanks for the video my Bladed Brother!!!

[@shawnrieser6299]

Had my eye on that knife thankyou for the review already have the garberg saved me buyers remorse

[@inkiron3907]

That bushcraft music bit had me cracking up 😂

[@vibeslide]

Cosmo Canyon, is that you? I left my PS1 running for days just to listen to that song.

[@conductorcammon]

Great review. That price really raised my eyebrows.

[@r.awilliams9815]

I like the shape of the blade, the handles appear to be quite nice, and the sheath is great. But...the blade is too thick and it's 4116 @ 56 RC. At that price point I would expect a somewhat better grade of stainless, or better yet, tool steel with a cerakote job. Nice intro, although I noticed a distinct lack of Bear Gryll's seemingly favorite activity...thank God.

[@garethbaus5471]

Definitely an entertaining start of the video.

[@frenstcht]

What is that wood at 11:41? I want to hand plane some of that and see if I can get the grain to shine.

[@SanderExtremeW]

Just discovered this gem! Again, simply genius

[@zelld7927]

I had a lot of laughs with the Final Fantasy background music. Great video.

[@davidgiles9751]

Thumbs up for the intro by itself. As for me, I think I'd rather buy a whole bunch of Mora's and throw them away after they're dull vs. buying this Victorinox. Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty thing, but $200 USD - dang that's expensive.

[@OGMoose-rm7vz]

Great video! Hilarious. . . . . Good point about maintaining the spine of the knife. I feel like that is probably overlooked alot.

[@LordIsaacofGlencoe]

Disappointing yet I still want it. I hope a sale comes soon. Maybe next Black Friday/Cyber Monday. 200 is too much, I'd feel more comfortable paying a little over 100. What made them decide to have the L & S made by Muela. It baffles me.

[@gillbates999]

1. At first glance I would've sworn that knife is made by Real Steel in China. Very similar to the pattern of the RS Bushcrafter I picked up some time ago. 2. That rock formation at the beginning...Externsteine in the Teutoburg Forest, Germany. Supposedly a sacred site of pagan Saxons way back when. Was there last December, as it happens. Did not perform any pagan rituals....or b u s h c r a f t...it was raining...

[@freenational]

I think it is made by Muela of Spain though I do not know if there is any relation between the two companies.

[@pstaehlin]

I happened to notice our VICTORINOX watch. Nice.

[@natek1993]

You are the best Pete. Never stop being so great.

[@soundknight]

So is it a kind of convex scandi? There are some finish boutique makers who do that.

[@troymanning3150]

Really like the looks of this knife. Would really be interested at the $100 mark. No way at $200. Like you said for that money I will get another LT Wright. Thanks for the review. Been really curious about this one.

[@jamespisano1164]

Fun, worthwhile review. Have to see if you've reviewed the new one, the Venture. Thinner blade, different grind.

[@milesrobertson6882]

Now that was funny. Even the font nailed it.

[@syahrilsamsuddin]

Like the INOX watch..perfect combo with Victorinox knife 👍🏼👍🏼😅

[@anthonymiller8979]

Very few buschcraft knives come with the true, 'zero grind" scandi. Nearly all either put a micro bevel or more commonly buff the edges on a stropping wheel to impart a rounded "micro convex to reduce the brittle zero edge. Even the LT Wright zero grinds advertised inn the past were hit on a buffer and were micro convexed. The Mora knives are probably the only true scandi edges out there in most cases.

[@beyproctor7673]

Great intro! You were just crushing the “bushcraft” vibe.

[@BushcraftSweden]

Love your pick on Bushcraft seriousness.. Amazed with the content of your reviews and that one with..thank you!

[@freenational]

When you are comparing firecrafting with the Mora, is that the stainless steel or carbon steel version?

[@nils-ph3zs]

both are great

[@Clambelly]

Great review ! A lot of money for a production knife. Recently followed your recommendation and gotta a gorgeous custom from Alex Dron for less money.

[@soundknight]

I see you have the Victorinox watch, is that the auto or quartz model?

[@patriceb26]

Bonjour Is it a good knife for bushcraft?

[@travisaurus_rex]

Appreciate the Faun in the opening background

[@ninemimesleft]

Papyrus font seen in its natural element.

[@car350zmm]

The knife looks very well made, but I agree with you on the price point, I just dont see the $200. Thanks for the video Pete! Much love

[@thomasmaloney843]

So what does this do that the cold steel finn hawk does not? Both 4116.

[@brianlash154]

After my research, I deduced the following: this knife is shaped and designed to be a survival and bushcraft knife. However with 4.116 steel at its current RH, it can't hold up to the tasks that it was brainstormed for

[@scottb.0185]

It’s “Bushcraft, the Musical”! Top marks for this onePete.👍🇦🇺😂

[@Hookandlateral1]

Hey Pete I have a question. I'm not really into knives but I like to have one. I have a Rat 2 in D2, how you recommend I keep it sharp? One of the pocket sharpeners? Just stroping everyday? Obviously some like the KME is out of the question.

[@CedricAda]

The worksharp guided field sharpener, its really and I’m putting a review up of it tomorrow

[@Hookandlateral1]

@@CedricAda Wow Thanks!

[@speedygonzales9993]

Mikkie B. of DBK said Victorinox should 'up' the steel or 'lower' the price. They should also mfg INHOUSE.

[@duncdunc76]

Was excited about this Vic and it's a Very Pretty knife but looks to be High maintenance for the performance. Love Victorinox but I'll stick with my Victorinox OHT as my EDC in pocket and my Mora Bushcraft Black and Cold Steel cheap Kukri for camping in the deep woods.

[@mmiller73]

Hahaha!! This is my favorite knife review of all time! I loved the way you troll the “bushcraft” crowd (which I consider myself to be a part of) at the beginning. FREAKING HILARIOUS!! Your review of the Victorinox Outdoor Master is also spot on. I am a Victorinox fan and I have been wanting to get this knife as a companion to my Farmer but the price is just too high for a knife made with basic stainless steel. I would rather get a Joker in 14c28n for half the price. Maybe if I can find one used for a good price I will pull the trigger. It really is a gorgeous knife.

[@Yiannis2112]

Exactly what you said. Cudeman, Miguel Nieto or Joker and J&V make similar blades for 80 euros.

[@100BearPaw]

Hilarious, and well done depicting of what I feel is “Bushcraft” to the T. Bushcraft seems to be this made up word for describing when a person goes into their backyard and plays with a Knife, whilst filming themselves for the enjoyment of others. That word was not around when I was romping around in the woods camping in far out obscure places. As far as I could walk out in a day. Sometimes two or three days out. No cell reception and you didn’t bring more than a liter of water simply to lighten the load. One can easily boil water, so it made little sense to overload yourself. Ultralight simply meant you had enough knowledge and time spent in the backcountry that you had no use for much other than a knife and canteen with canteen cup for boiling said water. And those were considered a luxury item. I do realize that there’s only a fraction of wild land left these days for the youth to go out and discover themselves. We must keep that in mind Ofcourse. One must go farther and farther to truly be in the wild. Even still the extent at which you must go to escape people is even farther yet. Due to the small amounts of designated refuges. This may be less of an issue in your country. I wouldn’t know, having never been there. Looks beautiful though. Keep on keeping on meow!

[@theirvman]

Fantastic review. I love Victorinox as a brand but I like when someone calls out as it is.

[@deathbyastonishment7930]

They make some nice stuff, this isn’t it

[@Bıçaklar_Aletler]

Victorinox Outdoor Master Mic L Real Survival Knife:Spine Jimping, Crusher Pommel, Linen Micarta Handles, Kydex Sheath+Ferro Rod...

[@GrumpyGrunt]

I *finally* remembered the psychadelics and you have a normal bushcraft video intro?!?! Just noticed the Birdshot shirt. 🤣

[@-----REDACTED-----]

I absolutely love victorinox and its SAKs but I’ll steer clear of this fixed blade

[@edwardyork4321]

LOVED the Intro 👍👍

[@Dexter00000]

Your intros, music and bullshit is what makes me come here even more eagerly than just your awesome knife tests 😅. Btw. got this Worksharp for over a year (despite having few sharpening systems) and it's incredible.

[@bach5780]

During the intro I felt the strong urge to go get a Busch light out of the fridge. Can't put my finger on why.

[@halfbaked3373]

Love the shinanagance

[@ciderandthorazine]

hmm yeah, seems like an unfortunate miss given so much is right about the package. i've used 1.4116/X50CrMoV15/5Cr15MoV a good deal and it's weaksauce; about the best thing you can get while only opening the change-pocket of your wallet. on a 200-quid knife? naaah. 154CM on the blade, 59HRC, lose the blade jimping, knurl the micarta, then it's a deal.

[@deformator2]

1:37 where did you find this meme?

[@lonewolf597]

I see on the box it was made by Muela, another knife company from Spain. That might explain the price. Muela is quality but pricey. Thanks for this review.

[@brianf9619]

Nice review , your absolutely right , that sheath is half the reason why it's $200 , and while 4116 is a budget steel it is wicked stain resistant , a lot of kayakers and white water rafters use it for that reason , also the ease of sharpening to a fine edge is an attribute some people look for in a knife , but for me it is still over priced .

[@lucidlocke]

I had to like this just for the intro

[@grimm2085]

Great video, good review, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, God Bless

[@jamesmcguinness1952]

Have you reviewed Halfbreed blades bushcraft yet?

[@dustyshaw7377]

Thanks mate great review, i will stay with my Mora, it may look nice but that's where it stops.

[@KettleCamping]

Great review! Thank you! 👍

[@Joe-pe6qi]

If they'd release a carbon one I would definitely buy it.

[@zacharysmith991]

I would probably take the garberg at half the price

[@ConquerCollin]

Gotta get your ferro rod and your paracord out of the trash for this one

[@3thanVlogging]

Didn't find any Aussie retailer got these，also waiting for the s45vn Spyderco. Maybe it's time to right straight purchase from the US?

[@CedricAda]

Ethan Zhang I got mine from Lamnia in finland I believe

[@theodorosmalliopoulos7231]

@@CedricAda I do not know how your experience with Lamnia was, but i have bought many things from them and, in my humble opinion, they are the best and biggest dealer in Europe. Fair prices, awesome service and damn fast delivery for reasonable shipping costs. Thank you for your content Pete. Always fun to watch.

[@cdixon198]

I appreciate the review.

[@TheJoedonbakerfan]

At that price, it’d better come with a Swiss soldier to do my camp chores for me.

[@dlrmon1]

Uncle Randy would be Proud...

[@duncdunc76]

🤣 FANTASTIC INTRO!!!

[@bk8]

Very funny intro. 10/10, spat coffee through my nose 🤭

[@GurtTarctor]

Would love to know what you think of the WCSK.

[@Shanes_Sharp_Sheet]

Great vid Peter! Say hello to Bandit, chili, bingo, and bluey for us lol

[@user-cu6pv3mv5d]

is that rust on the blade?

[@Jimbonj]

I literally did a spit take busting out laughing at you Bushcraft squat and carve

[@Jimbonj]

Your*

[@Alexander210]

I like the part where he says "Bushcraft".

[@trulsdirio]

So, you get a Muela for thrice the price. Seems reasonable.

[@argyle1812]

Love the music on this one

[@daeholm]

I don't think a "true" scandi grind has to be a zero grind, a tiny microbevel is scandi-acceptable and even desirable. But it should be almost invisible to the naked eye, hence the micro. The problem is that companies put on these pronounced secondary bevels that kind of ruin the whole point of a scandi grind which is high performance at wood carving.

[@CedricAda]

Grey Holm agree

[@Hectorszenshopedc]

you are so funny mate LOL bushcraft OMG I am crying of joy

[@mannihh5274]

Thanks for reviewing and sharing your experience. The Victorinox people sure do a decent job, though for me it's a little bit pricy - I'll stick to my Moras. About 5:15 your talk about the micro-bevel. Buffing or stropping would leave a convex apex with a different shine. My Moras had a micro-bevel out of the box too, seemingly a little less pronounced. For me the factory edge doesn't really matter, though I take them to my Diamond sharpener anyways and grind it the way I like it. Your betoning and feathersticking is poor - watch Mors Kochanski's videos! He recommends first cutting some small stuff - dead hardwood, if you can - and make 3-4 wedges (save the cut-offs for fire-starting). Then hit the blade only, were it touches the wood, drive the blade in, take it out and go on with the wedges. This way you can even baton firewood with a SAK. (M.K.: a knife is your most valuable tool in the wilderness, why the hell would you risk to damage it by beating on the weakest part, the tip, if you can do better?) When making feathers, M.K. would only be satisfied, if you manage to do at least four curls at every feather. @14:45 "with the Mora Garberg I almost set my hair on fire" - would like to see, how you were striking. I always strike in front of my chest, forward and downwards, never had any spark doing a 180° - or did you talk about the hairs on your leg? Your shown custom knife has a flat grind with a seconary bevel, so it can't be as good on bushcraft tasks like feathersticking either.

[@MattP-BandB]

Stop reading and regurgitating shit you read in a book, get out in the woods and live a little.

[@mannihh5274]

@@MattP-BandB Thanks for your substantiated opinion ;-D - I just don't give a shit

[@Kujo999]

FF music in a video the day the remake demo came out. Nice!

[@CedricAda]

man that looks soooo good. just watched the jacksepticeye playthru

[@grannieannie1371]

Glad I saw that. It's a very pretty knife but no matter how good looking it is that steel for that price it's a nope.

[@mgsharnhorst]

This knife looks a great deal like the Cudeman bushcraft knife.

[@alexguitar841]

Cool video. I'm genuinely interested to hear your thoughts on the worksharp guided field sharpener. Can't wait to see that review.

[@AdventureCamping]

I have the field sharpener and it is awesome. Reviewed it myself a couple of years ago I think. Still carry and use it all the time. Way better value than it's price point

[@donaldmcgregor8152]

I ♡ your shorts!