VICTORINOX Venture : What you need to know !

[@forzaknife]

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[@forzaknife]

@@1800moonSugar I wrote the text and put it to read by an AI synthetic voice. It's very effective!

[@paulburke6515]

It made me stop at 2:10 and go to another vid.

[@forzaknife]

@@paulburke6515 Next time I'll put on some bagpipe music.🙂

[@paulburke6515]

@forzaknife it wouldn't help, listening to TTS is like reading all cap replies.

[@hoehlentroll69]

@@forzaknife best professional answer to a troll!

[@jdobe9461]

I believe, recently Victorinox made some adjustments to the thickness of cutting edge of the knife to prevent this problem.

[@Sukikev]

I love reviews of stuff and watch hundreds of them, but this has to be one of the most thorough and carefully considered review I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your time and effort.

[@forzaknife]

Thank you so much

[@markcummings6856]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@usernameisusername]

Ok channels mom

[@OoavastoO]

I have an honest question that maybe someone can answer. When and why did batoning wood become the de facto baseline test of determining whether a knife can be considered worthy of being labeled as suitable for bushcraft? My reasons for asking are: 1) As a rule, most knives are not designed to do batoning. That’s what a hatchet or an axe is for. The stresses batoning inflicts on a knife are extreme, regardless of steel type, edge profile or blade design. Some are more resilient then others but given enough time of extreme use like this, something will fail. The only exception being, I suppose, an extremely heavy and thick blade, in which case you may as well be carrying a hatchet or axe anyway. A thick, heavy blade doesn’t allow for accurate precision work very easily. 2) In all my years of practicing bushcraft, from my youth in the boy scouts up to my present re-introduction after a long hiatus, I can honestly say I have never come across a situation where I needed to baton wood. The vast majority of batoning I see in videos is for processing firewood into kindling. But if you’re collecting firewood, 99% of the time you’re in the woods in which case you’re surrounded by kindling of all types and thicknesses, thus rendering batoning unnecessary IMHO. If processing wood for another purpose, (i.e. building a shelter, crafting camp furniture or tools) here again it’s more effective, safer and precise using a hatchet/axe to remove bulk and a knife to fine tune. 3) If you’re in a legitimate survival situation, all bets are off. You do whatever you have to in order to survive/get rescued. But that doesn’t warrant giving a knife’s ability to baton the unusually high emphasis it seems to have in accepting or dismissing it as being suitable for bushcraft. Again I struggle to see a need to baton in this situation but regardless, the vast majority of survival situations are resolved quickly, (usually within a week), meaning a knife only has to stand up to batoning for a short period of time, damaged or not. So again, why so much emphasis/priority placed on a knife’s ability to baton?

[@zoephin6205]

I'll give it a shot. You need batoning to expose dry wood in a very wet environment! May also want it construct tables, chairs, shingles, paddles, mauls, swedish torch, etc.

[@zoephin6205]

Not everyone wants to carry around a hatchet, saw, etc. A one tool solution is very appealing.

[@BCVS777]

@@zoephin6205 for the tasks you describe you will need a beefier blade I would think.

[@dennisleighton2812]

11:21 "... i wouldn't recommend it for ... " Well, just in case you haven't see Felix Immler's launch video, nor do Victorinox themselves recommend it for those extra heavy duty or survival type tasks. The knife is aimed at pure bushcrafting tasks, just as you stated. So, within the parameters of its design philosophy, it seems that the knife performs exactly as Victorinox set out to achieve! Their sales to date (and the fact that I can't find one to purchase!) seem to indicate a wide and positive acceptance within the knife community.

[@forzaknife]

Here is what is said on the Victorinox website about this knife. "For limitless bushcrafting adventures. Discover the rugged Venture collection Blades made for outdoor adventures. Discover our Venture collection: a range of fixed blade knives designed by experts and designed for bushcraft. Made of high quality steel renowned for its exceptional robustness, these knives of unfailing reliability meet the challenges encountered in the great outdoors. From hiking to camping to wilderness survival, there's no stopping them." To imply that the knife can be used for bushcraft "without limits" and to meet "all types of challenges", I find that misleading. www.victorinox.com/fr/fr/Collection-Venture/cms/venture-collection

[@dennisleighton2812]

@@forzaknife LOL Yeah, a bit of over-zealous marketing copy there! The technical people (like Felix Immler who was largely leading the design group), have a different view. But, well spotted.

[@forzaknife]

@@dennisleighton2812 Yes I think we have to be more measured in communication because words have meaning, especially since nowadays some people do a lot to their knife.

[@dennisleighton2812]

@@forzaknife You're so right! Especially that word "bushcraft" when describing a knife, and what it is supposed to be used for. Unfortunately for me, I'm someone who likes things to be more black & white, than shades of grey. The whole knife debate seems to be one large sea of grey. However, on the positive side, all the sifting and research it forced me to do has paid off in a far better knowledge of the knifing world and its idiosyncrasies. 👍

[@tomanderson6233]

​@dennisleighton2812 Felix Imlar, does not do most of his splitting with knives. Even when he does it, he usually expresses caution. That said, it's fair to say most people expect a bushcraft knife to be able to baton wood. I happen to fall right in the demographic for this knife. You see, I own a hatchet. Also, I'm anal-retentive about my blades. Even if you don't damage your knife batoning, you dull it.

[@brutalbrital]

I like contrasting colours like red and orange in the bush so it’s easy to see and not easily lost. This is a lovely knife

[@cassanoa]

i love Swiss army - i own about 30 of their pocket knives - great video - you exposed a true weakness -as a barbarian all i can say is that when i have to split a piece of wood - i dont know or care about the hardness of the wood - i grab my blade - a ontario sp8 and slam my way through - is it a sophisticated blade ? - NO sir - its just a chunk of steel - does it have a weak tang blade interface ? yes - but i never worry about it breaking - is it heavy ? yes - that only helps it go through more wood - can it carve ? not really - it can chop - pry - dig - hammer - i use it to chop roots close to the surface - through the dirt - its a tool - better than a knife - i even thought of a way of re-enforcing the tang just because its such a fantastic tool - its strong - cheap and effective - the harder the log the harder you hammer the sp8 and it will not fail you - any carving i simply carry a actual carving knife made for the task - cooking is accomplished by a good folding pocket knife - there is no one knife / tool solution - just suck it up and carry what you might need - but the victorianox is a cute knife - would rather carry a Japanese chef knife and have a kdex sheath made for it - again - i chopped through 2 inches of dirt and then the tree root with the ontario sp8 and there was zero damage

[@cassanoa]

the question is : if you were in a hard situation and had to do whatever it takes to survive to get home to safty - could this blade get you there ? under real hard use - would it hold up ? sadly i dont think so - this is a kitchen knife disguised as a survival knife - i would rather get the new cold steel camping knife - the republic - or a cold steel SRK

[@PrestonMcDowell-tc8wg]

I just got mine yesterday. Love the knife and the company. I haven't had a lot of time to put it through it's paces fully. But I think it will do well for my needs.

[@BCVS777]

I think Victorinox really nailed it with this one! If you think that there is one knife that will do all things outdoors then you need to spend some more time outdoors.😊

[@forzaknife]

I say in the video that the perfect knife does not exist.

[@danielillo673]

I have this knife, I think the blade is too thin and the flat grind makes the blade weak. I think it's a cooking knife or no farther than a do camping knife.

[@garycrawford4700]

Mine skinned a bear , separated joints , and appeared to be just as sharp as when I removed it from the box . Beaver are next .

[@torpilo]

You compared the steels and prices, but you forget that the Mora has only 28 grams of steel. This grind, in this thickness, looks good only for food prep and debarking. I would like to see a convexing of the edge on this model, and your blade seems the perfect candidate...

[@BrokenCurtain]

Reminds me of my €25 Morakniv. I like all the knives in my SAK collection, this one won't become a part of it. If I got it with the pro holster that is being sold separately, then I'd have to pay about €120 - for that money, I can just as well buy a Cudeman MT-5, which is much better.

[@seanrobinson6407]

Victorinox has always been unbeatable for reasonably priced but very high quality folding multiblade pocketknives. But for this style knife, Morakniv is the reasonably priced high quality fixed blade that can't be beat.

[@HeavyMetalHiking]

Thank you for a great, informative video!

[@forzaknife]

Thanks !

[@Bob-67]

Thanks for your excellent review. I believe the part that has the hexagon cut out can be used to carve the bowl of a spoon. Felix Immler posted a video on the subject.

[@forzaknife]

Thanks ! Apparently you can also block some compatible tools there.

[@pierremayer1207]

A victorinox has been in my pocket for 30 years. No matter what it was " designed" for, if it cant handle batoning it cant handle me and will never be on my belt. Imo that is a cop out any knife company could use to 'protect' their reputation from failure. Any full tang should handle some bang.... All that said, thank you for a great review and extra thanks for saving me some money.

[@vincentc6919]

Mine fractured doing routine easy batoning no different than the video Felix shows. Junk. Victoronix will not honor the warranty and told me sorry for your loss. Customer service sucks. Do not waste your money!

[@ellanvanninbushcraft8388]

Thank you for your honest opinion to this knife. I was thinking of getting one but I do have to consider the degradation that happened when you did the battening. I teach children bushcraft skills and spending the amount of money on this knife and seeing the results, it isn’t worth it. I know my comments might upset some but please forgive me, my comments were not meant to upset anyone. Craig.🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲

[@dennisleighton2812]

That's fine Craig. I really urge you to follow up on what Felix Immler has said about the criticism of the Venture, and that will surely put it into context. If you are looking for a knife that can do batoning thick or hard wood without damage, you should look for a different knife. This Venture is not intended for doing heavy batoning such as mentioned caused the damage. It's a BUSHCRAFTING knife with a very fine edge designed for cutting, which it does well. Good luck with selecting the right knife. 👍

[@richardhenry1969]

First I’m not a follower of the idea you need to baton. I’ve been through survival training from desert to swamp. An never found a need to baton. Now that said I do see batoning as a good test. I just don’t believe it’s needed for real world use. I’m very shocked 80cv broke out. That’s a extremely tough steel. I really would like to see what rippled the edge of the 14c28n. Especially because batoning doesn’t usually cause that. In my experience a ripple is from prying or cutting extremely hard materials like metal. I don’t see wood causing that. It’s nice that both accidents happened when the cameras were off. Guess this knife is a wait an see. Well I guess I’ll just have to use my terrachete it’s awesome.

[@forzaknife]

Hi Regarding the blade of the Skrama in 80crV2 steel, it happened to other users, I learned about it during a discussion. Probably a production batch problem. The deformation of the blade on the Venture must have occurred when I cut small branches on the log before batoning.

[@johndoucet4883]

I completely agree with your comment regarding batoning - when did this become the reference point for a judging a knife??? I've spent over 40+ years hiking/backpacking and have never once resorted to using my knife in that capacity. A small pack hatchet is a much more appropriate tool for such a task - the right tool for the right job. If I was in a survival situation, the last thing I would do is risk damaging my knife by batoning - I don't need perfectly formed kindling to start a fire.

[@zoephin6205]

"never found a need to baton" Then you don't need anything more than a $12 Mora Basic and a $3 steak knife. Yet here you are bragging about a $70 machete that batons quite well!

[@elizabeththompson4424]

looks like this Venture didn't get heat treated well I expect more from Victorinox especially something that's supposed to be used for bushcraft I prefer my AXE for splitting wood maybe the knife for really small stuff

[@Bıçaklar_Aletler]

Best Victorinox Venture Review Video,Awesome👍

[@forzaknife]

Thanks !!!

[@tomarthur5275]

Thanks for the great review. Can you explain what the jimping is for in the location it's in on this knife?

[@whatisbehindthecurtain3662]

as you self mentioned - a knife is for slicing - for other stuff use an axe 🤷‍♂️

[@moleb6341]

I bought the knife upon release (you can also get it at a very reasonable price in Southern Germany, close to the Suisse border). It's okay. But it's not quite on the same level as my Joker Bushcraft knives (Trampero etc.) from the same price range.

[@KettleCamping]

I also bought one. Love the knife, it’s more a carving knife than a Bushcraft knife. I think it’s more like a Mora Kansbol and the Gerber. I also have a Joker Canadiense flat grind and very tough knife. 👍

[@moleb6341]

@@KettleCamping The Joker Canadiense is a cool knife for sure! A bit in the Nessmuk style without overdoing it.

[@zoephin6205]

The Joker Campero, Trampero, and Nordico look very cool, and seem to be a better value than this Victorinox knife. I just don't like Joker's obnoxious labels on their blade. It takes the worst habit of the fashion industry.

[@moleb6341]

@@zoephin6205 On the one hand, I don't care too much about the looks and I also didn't see the parallel with the fashion industry. On the other hand, I must admit that you're right: The branding on the blade is ugly af. So are tacky labels in general. And I say that as a Joker fanboy! Still great knives...

[@Conan3145]

A great concept, especially the Pro model and add on sheath. Expensive for what it is. Mora Garberg is a better survival knife. Mora Companion matches 80% of the Venture functions at 1/4 cost. FYI Please add metric measurements on screen.

[@derangedsynthesizer7598]

I used the Morakin-(v)-don't know how to spell it in english.. similar to the Mora companion to dispatch over 6000 bering sea (pacific cod) as a fisheries biologist in a single contract. needing only to sharpen it one time.

[@1967AJB]

Do you really think Victorinox would get the sheath wrong? Or could it be, just like Falkniven, a premier designer of knives to be used in arctic conditions, whose sheaths also rattle, is you make a close fitting sheath in those conditions the knife freezes in the sheath, rendering it useless. I’d advise you to watch Felix Immlers videos, he helped design it, I think you’ll find yourself wanting. Poor review.

[@forzaknife]

The new Fällkniven sheaths from the X ranges provide good locking without as much vibration. A knife that vibrates in the sheath emits a lot of noise and this is not an advantage for all those who have to move discreetly in nature. Surely there is a much better compromise to be found.

[@1967AJB]

@@forzaknife If you’re a ninja pick a different knife.

[@davidkang6663]

Carry 2 knives one for bushcraff and one for food.

[@etienneportail5122]

The knife sheath of the Mora Kansbol fits the Victorinox Venture very well, definitely much better than the original sheath of the Victorinox; this is simply bad (even if it has a cool blowhole for firing)!

[@forzaknife]

Thanks for the information.

[@kirbycreekmo]

Very impressive presentation. I"m glad it came up in my feed. New sub. Intriguing and versatile knife.

[@forzaknife]

Thanks !

[@johnmeshkis]

14 C 28 steel does not hold an edge for a very long time😢

[@pyankura]

GREAT, review!

[@ROE1300]

👍 Good fair review of this knive.

[@forzaknife]

Thanks

[@DHL4Jesus]

Looks like you have a defective product. Mine performs just fine. I love it, including the loose sheath.

[@forzaknife]

I think it's a very good knife, very ergonomic and very sharp, but we'll see the feedback from those who give it some rough work.

[@erwinvanherle469]

I still really like it. And what you said is true. I tend to use bigger knives for battoning

[@freenational]

Liked and subscribed. The sheath is a let down but one can always get an aftermarket kydex sheath that would work better. Talking about great outdoors kitchen knife, the Mora Kansbol is a good candidate. I never use it for outdoors but it is a great kitchen knife. I have to see this Venture up close if it will be a good utility knife for both outdoors and indoors. As for the edge damaged, no way wood could inflict such damage to a knife that is hardened to 59 HRC. There must have been some sand pebbles that got caught in the wood piece. If the user desire robustness over sharpness, one could always reprofile the cutting edge to a more gentle angle. Just my 2 cents.

[@ronagoodwell2709]

Flat grind, delicate edge--good camp kitchen knife. Your tomatoes will thank you. Use heavier gauge scandi grind for bush-whackin'. Two knives. Maybe a third smallish puukko for after-hours fine whittling. Perfecto.

[@Bezstopy]

Although this knife is not for me (heavy and expensive for what it offers) I like that they made an attempt to make something "at home" I hope they will try again, with simpler approach, something similar to Mora companion would suit them better. They are not makers of top notch knives. and I bet there will be no returns in 30-50 € bracket.

[@hammerhead2869]

I've been batonning countless times on my Mora Robust and have never experienced damage like that... Yet the price of the robust is only about 15 bucks. So in comparison that Victorinox knife is quite disappointing, especially for its price tag. I love Victorinox Swiss Army knives but as a bushcraft fixed blade knife, I'd have a Mora Gaberg any day instead for that price...

[@voodoosix-centdix-neuf7655]

Lot of questions with this knife. You're not the first one tu ruin one on KZbin, so this knife is not as sturdy as à mora companion or pro. But I see how it cuts, slices, and seems extremely ergonomic. May be it shall be completed with a saw or Hatcher for bushcrafters, but I am just a knife enthusiast camper and I am going to order one when available. If victorinox want to keep claiming it's a sturdy knife, they have to change the grind geometry to a Saber or convex edge with a thicker edge, loosing the thin edge benefits. Great review by the way 👍

[@forzaknife]

Thanks ! You summed it up well. Knife with very good ergonomics, very sharp, but to be reserved for cutting materials that are not too hard and above all to avoid shocks on the edge.

[@BearQ108]

Where did this concept of chooping wood with knive came from? Its a bull, every oldschool scout knows that you can find bigger and smaller bits of wood 🪵 in the forest. Knive is for cutting, axe 🪓 for chopping, saw for sawing

[@fatmangaming2720]

I wonder how this compares to the Victorinox bushcraft knives that were made in Spain?

[@rothleonard]

I prefer the Joker lynx it has a kydex sheath and heavier full tang macarta handle. Roughly same price.

[@heywhotsgoinon8286]

If you have to depend on your knife, it has to be dependable. This just doesnt cut it.

[@bdc1319]

I see what you did there 😂

[@arto1313]

garberg is better. Thanks for video and test of batoning it really showed the quality of victorinox venture.

[@andrewvanveen1804]

A very honest technical evaluation. I have always questioned batoning in bushcraft. Frankly, I always carry a tomahawk or small axe on my ruck. I can imagine that some regard this as an essential capability in a survival knife, which this knife is not intended to be. I look forward to acquiring this knife. In my view this is not fatal to my purchasing this knife. I do appreciated the quote from the Swedish knife specialist on the importance of the sheath. Excellent thoughtful presentation.

[@forzaknife]

Thank you for the comment. It's true that some like to use their knife for extreme tasks, but many knives aren't designed for that.

[@suggoz]

Guessing you are talking about Mora Knivar?

[@forzaknife]

Yes the brand "Mora", Morakniv.

[@macmurfy2jka]

Who wrote this scrip?

[@forzaknife]

Me, a human. I write all the texts for my videos and I record the voice-over. But reading a text myself, in the right way with good intonation is complicated, so I found the synthetic voice solution very effective.

[@macmurfy2jka]

@@forzaknife is english not your first language? I noticed the use of vocabulary and sentences structures that are uncommon as I hear the language used today. It almost sounded as if the scrip was AI generated, or generated with a translation app. Considering your use of text to speech, I was curious about what other tools you may have used. Not a criticism, just wondering.

[@knivesandsteels]

@@macmurfy2jka Indeed, I initially write the text in French and then I have it translated, then I still try to correct because the terms of cutlery vary according to the languages as well as the units of measurement.

[@knivesandsteels]

@@macmurfy2jka Here is my original work. But since only the French public watches, I decided to create a more universal channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fniae2Wig5eXecU

[@macmurfy2jka]

@@knivesandsteels cool! Thanks for feeding my curiosity! The explanations are all understandable. I figured that you were working from a Romance. The structure just sounded that way, but I wasn’t sure. Keep up the good work!

[@ropyro8903]

The ( internet) bushcraft community nowadays is very strange. They all wanna make fire sticks and batton half a tree. ( Why 🤔) Me myself on all the bushcraft and outdoor trips i made. Never used a bushcraft knife or a knife with a full flat grind for such a tasks. I use a saw an axe or a survival knife for that. I use my bushcraft knife to make tools ( pothook,pegs, slingshot, bow and arrow etc) and ok, some small kindling. The venture is designed for that, and gives an excellent performance. I love it.

[@markcummings6856]

You’re old fashioned and boring.

[@J.sh_CDN]

Truthfully, when I'm outdoors, I use a knife for food prep far more often than I use it to baton or Even wood carve

[@zoephin6205]

You can get the same performance from ColdSteel Slock Master at 1/3rd of the cost. OK, the steel is not as good, but it's similar to a SAK, and you're the type to bring a sharpening stone, so it's not a problem :)

[@PedroMigBraga]

You set the sheath and belt loop the wrong way, if you do it properly it stops the knife from vibrating and improves the retention! Pass the loop inside the hole of the sheath.

[@johanesgo8096]

Have you checked the wood, maybe there is something in it?

[@forzaknife]

I looked and did not see any metallic or stony elements.

[@andrewsmith-xh9sf]

If you want a proper bush craft knife get your hand on a Jacklore, made in Wiltshire, England. He doesn’t sell overseas though.

[@forzaknife]

Thanks for this reference.

[@Kyle-bb9zp]

Victorinox is redesign the sheath making it better a long with some other things about the knife

[@markcummings6856]

Stellar presentation! Top Shelf quality.

[@forzaknife]

Thanks !

[@camposcasc7615]

Parabéns pelo vídeo e a descrição do acontecido. Estranho que somente a madeira tenha provocado tais danos mas foi bom para ver os limites de uso do equipamento. E uma ótima faca , se respeitado seus limites, como em qualquer equipamento. Ate mesmo em um MBT...

[@patricebernard3910]

Hi, the case is bad, it moves too much; replaced by a Mora Companion case!! and the original Victorinox elastic .

[@carlospereira2399]

I wase thinking buying de knife, but after This review i wont buy it. Thank you.

[@TheChadWork2001]

It had a strange look. The blade curved up from the handle

[@brr8888]

It’s nice but I’d prefer the Garberg

[@ReconRat3]

No knife that rattles when sheathed will be with me in the woods.

[@HankSielski]

You must have access to some hard wood…I’ve never seen damage to a Skrama edge like that before…

[@forzaknife]

Having discussed it with other Skrama users, it has already happened to a few. Could be a manufacturing batch issue.

[@vorpalblades]

Bad heat treatment.

[@thefishinglor6931]

love MINE

[@pinkiewerewolf]

That’s disappointing. You didn’t baton anything to large and the edge shouldn’t have degraded from that light use. I bought the combination with the tool/drill bit. I haven’t used it yet as I’m traveling but when I get home I’ll put it to the test. I will say I was disappointed in the feel of the knife but figured it was probably made for the ultra light backpacking crowd.

[@forzaknife]

It is better to avoid strong impacts with this knife, but for light tasks it is very suitable.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

@@forzaknife I definitely enjoy using the Boker Bronco more and wish Victorinox had made this to the level of the Bronco… I’d have paid more for a 3V version.

[@forzaknife]

@@pinkiewerewolf Excellent coincidence, I received the Bronco ten days ago and I will soon present it on video !

[@pinkiewerewolf]

@@forzaknife That is a great coincidence! 👍 I’ll be looking forward to how it performs for you.

[@vincentc6919]

DO NOT BATON WITH THIS KNIFE...I'm in the process of returning my Venture now after thinking it could lightly baton a piece of cherry. Well guess what? The blade failed and I lost a huge chunk out of the cutting edge...use it for light camp work and wood carving...it's not a Mora

[@ChrisDraussen]

In general, if I am batoning, I make me a wedge for final spitting the wood. Basically I think you did not really get the real versatile functionality of this knive and how and why it was designed like this. Smashing a knive at it's back causes damage on every knive bcs knives like this are made for slicing not for smashing. For the rhe sheet retention problem, there is a solution, look Felix Immler's latest video. For batoning clean through, I use my Sacki 3.0, but hey kaybe you don't know about this knive.

[@forzaknife]

Hi. I used the knife this way because of Victorinox's description on their website of this Venture as a rock-solid knife designed for bushcraft, adventure, survival.

[@stevewalker4638]

Buck 119 hard to beat ..

[@plibani4248]

To avoid any disappointment upon purchasing, it is important to understand that the design of this knife is contradictory: - A 3.4mm thick blade + full tang = a strong knife that can withstand impact. BUT - A flat grind + 16° bevel per side = a blade that slices well but with a fragile geometry. => Therefore, this knife can only be FRAGILE, despite the thickness of its spine and its full tang. This does not make it a bad tool, but for example, a Mora Bushcraft Black or a Terassaur, which are much cheaper, will be more robust. If you mainly want to cut food, the Venture will be more suitable. But there are cheaper options... For those who like to read: So the question arises: what is the point of having a full tang? In my opinion: For marketing purposes only. To sell, to give boners to Americans who only have the word "full tang" in their mouths, to create an illusion, to impress, to trigger impulsive purchases... How? For the little hexagonal hole you say? GADGET and even a rather dangerous one. Using the handle of a knife with a super sharp blade on the other side as a drill handle, not for me...

[@BCVS777]

Yes it’s a little gimmicky but Victorinox is in the business of selling knives and I think they have a good seller here.

[@2Snakes]

@@BCVS777 No. It's overpriced junk.

[@jaysgood10]

That Red isn’t the official Red.

[@yankee23a]

Oh....ok....so what is the official red ?

[@jaysgood10]

@@yankee23a if you have a Venture, I do. And if you have another Victorinox product that is red, I do. The reds are different is all I’m saying.

[@yankee23a]

@jaysgood10 I agree the reds are a little different, thats obvious, no need to own it to see that. I dont believe there is an 'official' red and Victorinox used a bunch of other colour handle scales too on their pocket knives.....are those colours 'official' too ?

[@jaysgood10]

@@yankee23a I think companies that have a certain color branding that’s ‘official’ like the UPS brown will… Wait. I really don’t fucking care. I just made an observation.

[@yankee23a]

@@jaysgood10 Ha ha...!!!! 😂 ok ok ...yes that you did...👍

[@michellemichaels3258]

Looks like I’ll be staying with my Benchmade Bush Craft

[@richardskinner4198]

This was a very well made and informative video and I thank you for your efforts and look forward to more of your work . Knives have been a part of my life for many years and in many environments but I will never be a millionaire so have always been careful to chose the best I can afford that will do what I ask of it .I have a fondness for the SAK Victorinox in particular and have carried one or more for over 40 years so I was very interested and pleased when they brought out a fixed blade for bush craft ,your review of it ,to me is honest and quite correct and while I may get one in the future I feel I would be better served by a Condor Bush Lore or a Kephart. I would probably pair it up with a larger blade as a companion knife as I currently do with the Mora Companion series as it seems a little thin for the kind of regular tasks it will be needed to perform in a real emergency or prolonged trek, though it is beautifully sharp like my Mora's . Glad I found you .

[@forzaknife]

Hello and thank you for this comment. I will try to find small fixed blade knives to present for the next videos. Have a good day

[@hitchpost5822]

Very fair & thorough review, it seems to me one of Victorinox’s larger folders would do most of the carving tasks If you can’t do the wood processing that most bushcraft knives are expected to be able to do, then there is no advantage. over a folding knife. Thanks for the video.

[@stevesinclair4159]

This is one of the best Kitchen knives Victorinox has ever made, but I won't be buying it as I already own 5 of their kitchen knives and I own a 111mm Outrider, a 130mm Ranger Grip 79, several 111mm Foresters & Rucksacks plus 111mm Picnickers / Nomads. Kitchen knives should not pose as outdoor knives, their place is in the Kitchen! "Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock and now the Victorinox Venture! Kitchen Knife"

[@forzaknife]

I like these historical references.

[@stevesinclair4159]

@@forzaknife Full Disclosure: the last part of my post with the historical references I took from the classic film "The Third Man" (Harry Limes speech on the Ferris wheel in Vienna ) and added " now the Victorinox Venture! Kitchen Knife"

[@michelottix4428]

Victorinox has some kitchenknives, but the venture is not sold as such. To me it's also not a typical bushcraft knife. It looks so cheap, made totally different to their folders, which are excellent. Victorinox has two more bushcraft knives which are produced in Spain from Muela. So I expected much more from a Victorinox bushcraft knife Made In Switzerland, especially when it's designed and made with the help of Felix Immler. By the way, cuckoo clocks don't have anything to do with Switzerland. They are typical clocks from the Schwarzwald (Black Forrest) Germany😉. Here you can find even the biggest cuckoo clocks of the world (big as a House). And hey, we can make good bushcraftknives too. Watch for the Rotwild "Falke". Made by Otter Knives in Solingen Germany. Handmade, with a Böhler N690 blade. And of course much more expensive. List price is about 250 Euros. But much better quality than the Venture.

[@stevesinclair4159]

@@michelottix4428 Happy Saturday, I am aware that the Cuckoo Clock is a German invention, the quote I used is from the classic 1949 film with Orson Welles called "The Third Man" set in allied controlled post-war Vienna. I agree completely that Victorinox have not produced a quality bushcraft knife in the Venture, unlike their 2 Outdoor Master fixed blade knives, for that reason I class it as a kitchen knife. Victorinox has IMO made a mistake in straying from their main business of folding pocket knives, this year 2023 they have discontinued 39 SAK's some of them small popular models & cut the range of colours that were available on many others to just plain red and in 2024 it is rumored that the entire very popular 85mm Delmont (ex-Wanger) range of SAK's will also be discontinued too, all the while whilst producing a new Evoke series of 136mm Alox single locking blade folders which like the new Venture are not core business and because of their bade length and locking mechanism are not legal in about 40% of the countries worldwide, to me it makes no sense for Victorinox to put so much effort into a niche market for large outdoor knives! ATB Steve in Tel Aviv

[@zoephin6205]

Hi Steve :) I tend to agree with you on this. This kitchen knife reminds me of ColdSteel Slock Master, but shorter, 0.1mm thiner, and 3+ times the cost. You're right! I'm already bringing a 111m SAK into the forest. I got a kitchen and fine carving blade on it. Now I want a Scandi beast to process wood. Where is it? Not in this kitchen knife! What a disappointment. It does look aesthetically pleasing. I'll give it that, but it's not enough.

[@derick4774]

Rather disappointing in my opinion. I don’t like batoning knives but when you need to the knife must be able to perform.

[@stevesinclair4159]

I have successfully used a Buck 110 & an old Schrade -Uncle Henry LB7 for batoning, neither were damaged.

[@fancyhitchpin8675]

If I understood correctly, it was delimbing with a baton that caused the damage, not splitting kindling.

[@Errcyco]

Ever since I got a TOPs that’s all I’ll buy for camping type knives. Thier ceracoating is legit and the knives are amazing. This is what some wealthy skier would carry cross-country skiing lol

[@randomescu]

If id be into camping or something similar id rather lose 5 kg of fat and add 5 kg of tools in my backpack. This knife looks good but id rather carry a Surge and a small axe/hammer.

[@jls2975]

Knife lover is in the kitchen 😂

[@forzaknife]

Repeat after me :-)

[@fredfinger7092]

Not a fan of the AI generated voice which mispronounces "Victorinox" constantly.

[@myronallen3010]

Yeah I hate the AI voice. Just voice your own stuff and be original. It's more effort but you'll get more from your viewer.

[@Richard.357]

After watching your video, I was surprised to see the damage caused to the edge of the blade. But as most large manufacturers I imagine, it's quantity and not quality. All machined and not lovingly hand crafted. Maybe as they only recently moved to full tang and as no one would batton a log with a folder, the expertise wasn't there. As where manufacturers like mora started with a knife for doing these kind of bushcraft jobs in mind and probably tested their products for the extremes. Maybe they should go back to the drawing board and re think . There are so many other knife manufacturers that have got it right. Maybe they should have looked at these first.

[@forzaknife]

I think the flat grind and very thin cutting edge is the reason for the fragility.

[@muskett4108]

Every knife has some luck built in. Build luck, user luck, and life's luck. This test example ran out pretty fast. Would another example of the same have more? Thousands of Skramas have been sold and few have ever run out of luck. Mine I beat the hell out of and seven years on is still regularly working hard. They have a very good warranty by all accounts for those that are luckless, (miss a heat treatment stage or just bad luck). This Victorinox looks a fine cutting knife. Probably not a Garberg killer, or the better Terava 110/120. Not really up to modern Bushcraft demands. Having said that, I like its design and for a load of cutting tasks it may do really well. So many tasked are better achieved without an overly built brick of a knife. Victorianox does suffer from being a bit of a fashion and marketing victim; which is probably why this knife is overhyped and expensive for what it is. It shouldn't be more than $/£75, and then it might well be good value. There is a lot of competition for this size and scale of knife. I have a good few Victorinox, but this one need to do a lot more than it is, especially at this price point. Good review.

[@forzaknife]

Thanks The notoriety of Victorinox known in the world, will undoubtedly make the success of this Venture and it is also what explains that this video is put forward by KZbin.

[@muskett4108]

I've had a few Victorianox Swiss Army Penknives. I use them intelligently enough to not damage them much/often. Some I have had for twenty, thirty, years. Not much I can't do with one, just takes more time. The Venture knife has a sound design but is overpriced and wrongly described. Which is the fault of their marketing team. $/£80 would be plenty for the materials and brand appeal; and then would be a good enough investment.@@forzaknife

[@tomagley356]

Functionality, design, sustainability and price must be determined by the buyer. There is no such thing as a "beast of burden“.

[@antoinepellegrinelli990]

Why do you copy images of a french chanel ?

[@knivesandsteels]

Well seen. This is my other channel. This is the English version.

[@forzaknife]

On Knives and Steels the audience is restricted to the French public. The magic of KZbin.

[@Manco65]

Truly disappointing over all. Over priced with a crappy sheath. Ground too thin for batoning. Although IMHO it's a task meant for larger knives with thicker blades or at least grinds.

[@mariopintudo1683]

is A " light bushcraft knife "

[@akadog6319]

I just need a knife, not a Paul Bunion multitool.

[@nochebueno1]

Kitchen knife im afraid

[@esseel7896]

oh well i was buying bulk for corporate functions. not now.

[@GamerNxUSN]

Why the AI?

[@forzaknife]

Making a voice-over read by an AI is very quick and efficient. Intonation, rhythm, corrections.

[@GamerNxUSN]

​@@forzaknifeI guess. Sounds like ESL telemarketer. "Hello all, I find you this time.....

[@girak2]

@@forzaknifeThe AI voice makes A LOT of mistakes in this video. Very easy to pick out for a native speaker. I'd rather hear the mistakes from a real voice, even if your accent is heavy. Practice makes perfect.

[@forzaknife]

@@girak2 I understand, but there is also the problem that doing a voice-over yourself takes a lot of time, you have to record several times, cut and adjust. What AI voice takes a few seconds to produce, it takes about 3 or 4 hours to do it yourself with a lot of effort. KZbin channels with several hundred thousand subscribers have much greater means of production, such as being able to have translations and voice recordings carried out by professionals. I try to do the best I can with the means at hand.

[@josehenriques3301]

Verdict: If you want to have this knife to be part of your collection, then that's fine, but if you want a real buscraft knife, don't buy it. There are dozens of better knives on the market for this purpose and at much better prices.

[@lungching7102]

It's just a kitchen knife...for outdoor 😂

[@balonm]

Yes, finally… I was waiting for it. I do not practice survival, bushcraft… just having a good time camping… nice to have a good slicer on my belt.

[@lungching7102]

@@balonm hahahaha

[@FiókSamsung]

Feszegetést nem bírja, ahhoz nem elég. De a helyén kell kezelni. Faragni jó, hasitani nem.

[@geraldwilliams497]

I don't like that knife and I wouldn't buy it, if it cost fifty percent less. With that said though. Batoning with a knife. Especially one not designed to do so. Is not a fair test of a knife. Each tool has its uses, and one should only use the right tool for the task. If you want to split wood. Use an axe, or one of the big knives. Which are designed specifically for that purpose. There's never any need to split wood that way anyway. If you don't know how to find dry wood. Stick to city sidewalks. If you go out into the wild. Without the proper knowledge. Not only do you put your life at risk. You endanger the lives of those. Who will inevitably need to go out and rescue you. I can find dry wood in the middle of a torrential down pour, in the winter. When there's six feet of snow on the ground. I've built thousands of fires and I've never needed to split wood for a campfire. There's no one tool for every job. You can find some tools. Which will do a mediocre job at most tasks, or you can carry multiple tools. Which will do an excellent job at specific tasks.

[@forzaknife]

I agree with you, each tool has its own function, but Victorinox on its website boasts of the solidity of its knife, of unfailing reliability, for adventure, bushcraft, so I wanted to test it on certain tasks.

[@gillbates999]

It's Vic-TO-ri-nox...not VICTORY-nox. :)

[@generatormike]

I have one it is slick for sure lots of features but from from heavy duty and overall disappointing, I have carried a SAK since the 70's, the sheath is too complicated and sloppy. If you use it as a camp knife it is great, for the woods not so much get a garberg it is different but better for rough tasks/basic survival.

[@vincentc6919]

Knife failed during routine work and Victoronix will honor the warranty. Do not buy this knife it’s a glorified paring knife BUYER BEWARE

[@philliptuffen9140]

This is not a bushcraft knife.better go with 1095

[@troyjenkins3886]

Batoning wood with a knife is highly overated.If you are in a true surviavl scenario,your gonna do what you can to preserve the edge.Why i like to take 3...knife/small axe/saw

[@stevelewis7263]

O.F.F.S, VICTORINOX is NOT pronounced VICTORY KNOX it's pronounced VICTOR IN OX

[@2Snakes]

Fails as a bushcraft knife and the price tag is ridiculous.

[@Ronie792]

There is no excuse for ever having to use a knife to process firewood

[@escapetherace1943]

ah yes the garbage kitchen-knife looking bushcraft blade. a fool is easily parted from their money