The Masters Plot to Merge LIV with PGA and Save Pro Golf Continues at The Masters Tournament (Pt 1)

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@seajan808
@seajan808 Жыл бұрын
You men are incredibly smart and talented !!! Spot on !!!! Amazing insight !!! Love you guys THANK YOU
@mrb43605
@mrb43605 Жыл бұрын
Great show! The knowledge is amazing and fascinating! Great job!
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
If the LIV golfers make a great showing, that will shake things up. One question I have is how far is the PGA willing to go to poison the well?
@philtookgrenadesforme7785
@philtookgrenadesforme7785 Жыл бұрын
Very far. The inbreds running it these day are full on destroying western civilization. They even erased LIV guys from history of tournaments already. They are erasing all western history as policy...unless you bow down and anoint them king, sex change your kids, george floyd is a hero, sex change yourself, dont be heterosexual with a loving family, spread HIV, do drugs, gamble and be stupid, etc.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
U have already seen how far they r willing to go. The liv golfers will dominate the leaderboard. There r more masters championships on liv perhaps than the pga tour. The question is whether they will shadow ban liv players from the coverage.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
@@chevy4x466 I wouldn't think they would but I would not put it past them . I think there are too many popular players from LIV to do something that insane. Of course they did shadow ban Patrick Reed in the tournament against Rory McIlroy recently. You barely saw any coverage of him, but later they added a 30 to 40 minute highlight video showing Reed and McIlRoy. Reed only finished second by one stroke. I bet they got a TON of complaints about the lack of coverage and that's why they added that video after the fact. Made PGA look very bad.
@jeffreyprice2982
@jeffreyprice2982 Жыл бұрын
Watching people play golf on a simulator is not going to save golf. As dumb an idea as watching people poker online.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
Actually, it’s even worse than online poker. The promo sux. It’s got to be golf on a course. Now it can be a gimmick like Ryder cup or the old skins game and be compelling. A tiger skins game or some variation could be okay in the winter at like a cypress point or an amazing course… Idk 🤷‍♂️ The pga tour has proven, creativity is not their strong suit.
@rickschroth9869
@rickschroth9869 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievably dumb. Golf on simulators .. really?? I could be dead wrong .. I get hitting a golf ball against a screen in winter in Northern regions beats not playing .. but making it professional .. that I just don’t get.
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
It may be very very entertaining....the sport of cricket used to have only one form of play but following the late 70s rebel league the sport unified and now has many different forms of the game...the newer forms being more entertaining and very lucrative...its now the 2nd most watched sport in the world.
@coobay4786
@coobay4786 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion.
@jimmerhardy
@jimmerhardy Жыл бұрын
This Masters is going to the most watched for many reasons and it's right around the corner. But I wonder: could you do a deep dive on LIV golf TV coverage? It struck me how good it is. Who directs and produces these broadcasts? And what about the on-screen 'stack' scoreboard? How was it developed and how the heck is it updated real time? It must be a real scramble. I mean, out-of-box, their coverage betters the networks. Is this topic in your wheelhouse?
@davidmahady8241
@davidmahady8241 Жыл бұрын
One reason betting more accessable and enmity real or imagined plus with all bullshit speculation some dumbass people actually believe liv over the hill guys and that's rediculous!!
@mineshjogia9945
@mineshjogia9945 Жыл бұрын
They have guys with each group with iPads updating scores as they are made. And totally agree their production is awesome.
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 Жыл бұрын
@@mineshjogia9945 same here. Fantastic. Could still get better. Which is scary.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
Cw doesn’t carry liv in Detroit 😡. I can’t even watch it on KZbin. I want to watch my favorite players, but the media has blackballed them. It would not surprise me if liv dominated the leaderboard at the masters.
@jimmerhardy
@jimmerhardy Жыл бұрын
@@chevy4x466 LIV better figure shortfalls like yours. Continue to simulcast to YT.
@davidmahady8241
@davidmahady8241 Жыл бұрын
Food fight food fight be great😄😄
@patrickconran8354
@patrickconran8354 Жыл бұрын
Great plot lines. Keep it up.
@96per58
@96per58 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else watch more KZbin golf now than professional golf? I watch golf on KZbin every day, haven’t turned professional golf on in ages
@pfgpye
@pfgpye Жыл бұрын
Use to love watching golf but now I could not give fiddlers fuck honestly
@steveh4595
@steveh4595 Жыл бұрын
From LIV's point of view, the conversation starter is getting OWGR points.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
Yup, let all players crossover. The pga tour gets all North America action, liv gets all other continents.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 Жыл бұрын
@@chevy4x466 They don't need OWGR points if the majors creates an exemption category for LIV golfers
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
The corrupt OWGR board must be fired and shamed.....the ranking is now a joke and wrong
@TempleQuests
@TempleQuests Жыл бұрын
Pga sent that lawn mower guy
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Probably! Of course the mower crew wrapped up right when we stopped filming.
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingManShow that happens every week. Might wanna change ur schedule or talk to them. Lol
@skipcampbell239
@skipcampbell239 Жыл бұрын
tiger cares only about himself..
@davidmahady8241
@davidmahady8241 Жыл бұрын
Not even himself if he did he would layoff the damn leg and let it heal!!
@Shimmed
@Shimmed Жыл бұрын
@@davidmahady8241 A trip to the Waffle House could help treat those ailments!
@SiLoMixMaster
@SiLoMixMaster Жыл бұрын
@@Shimmed 🤣🤣
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
He does self destruct. He had a gorgeous blonde wife, and cheated every time he could. He also gets blasted and drives.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great and interesting video (except for the lawn mover)! ha ha!
@robertbotelho7223
@robertbotelho7223 Жыл бұрын
Again, another good thoughtful podcast. I have an issue with the image of the Masters tourney being put forward by most media. Apparently, the memory of the Masters tourney as the most overt racist club and organization in America until just a couple of decades ago. People forget the extreme measures Bobby Jones did to omit any person of diversity being participating or joining. Shame on those who forget. Beautiful scenery does not alter the facts of history.
@SiLoMixMaster
@SiLoMixMaster Жыл бұрын
This particular Masters dinner in the clubhouse has the potential to be like a Shakespearean play, or a modern golf version of the film 'Gosford Park' with the golfers wandering about in their green jackets being 2-faced with one another and the staff gossiping in the kitchen about what different players with the PGAT have said about the LIV players etc
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
The dinner is the least compelling thing of the masters.
@SiLoMixMaster
@SiLoMixMaster Жыл бұрын
@@chevy4x466 Not this year it isn’t
@stephenpearce7058
@stephenpearce7058 Жыл бұрын
I’m so pleased that the PGA monopoly is coming to an end because world golf is so much important. Let’s get back to basics the etiquette of golf supports the idea of golf being world wide. Get together and bring the etiquette back. Liv should be recognised and included to bring the world together. Saudi will only improve to more liberalism if we include them and golf can be the start.
@Radioghost717
@Radioghost717 Жыл бұрын
Liberalism?? They kill women and gays. I’m not even anti LIV, but promoting the Saudis as “liberal” is ridiculous.
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
The PGAT systematically dismantled the other world tours so that top pro golf could only be played in the US, and all other tours are feeder tours....US golf is only 50% of world golf...LIV really upsets their monopoly
@andynaz5631
@andynaz5631 Жыл бұрын
​​@@1362pc in the US average, and even impoverished people can take up golf. In the rest of the world it is, for the most, part still an elitist sport. As far as a monopoly I agree, the PGA was getting stale, now they lost a lot of huge names. There knee-jerk reactions to LIV makes the PGA look weak, thus hurting the brand even more. As far as Augusta goes. I don't like the BS sanctimonialism, and piped in bird sounds. Fans are not the gallery, they are called patrons...BS. It's only friggin' golf! I stopped watching golf on TV because with social media the players are not as passionate about anything because they are afraid of being a meme. I think soshmeed has ruined TV golf . Golf is boring now, no personality. Everyone has to be politically correct trying not to offend anyone. It has become bland. PGA is worse than LIV in PC. There is a backlash happing in England and it is spreading throughout the world... people are waking up from wokeness. They are starting to realize that some of of the hills of wokeness are not worth dying on. But I still like playing golf.
@leeholden13
@leeholden13 Жыл бұрын
TMRW promises "...the New, Primetime Golf League at the Intersection of Sports and Technology..." playing virtual golf on a simulator. Isn't this PGA golfers playing Top Golf?
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
simulator golf....but hey its different...the myopic PGAT management are clueless in terms of understanding pro golf is entertainment...they just don't 'get it'.
@greggwaters5682
@greggwaters5682 10 ай бұрын
The Pheonix Open at the end of January kicks off the year with 1 million in attendance.
@Lowtech14
@Lowtech14 Жыл бұрын
1) majors are on right track by allowing players from all tours to be eligible to play, 2) OWGR gives ranking points to all professionals (board members who have a conflict not being forced to recuse is not helping), or 3) LIV does it’s own algorithm that makes OWGR obsolete
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
You guys should address the ramifications of LIV golfers doing so well and a European winning the Masters. Not to say anything about the world's #1 golfer not making the cut. LIV made a pretty darned good showing at the Masters. I predicted this would put the PGA in a bad position considering it's drive to destroy LIV Golf.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Thx Robert as always. We’re going to do a show to your point. In brief, the Masters results helped move “The Plot” along.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingManShow Great!
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
Great to point out that the PGAT destroyed the Euro tour....disgraceful
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
I can save world wide Golf with your help! Never will happen. I offered something like this once before. A certain city that won't be named had a great international Jazz Festival until the people running it ran it into the ground into a third rate Jazz Festival. I kind of offered, but not to the right people, to save the Jazz Festival. They thought I was kidding. I was not. I am not a Jazz fan, but we had a great Jazz Festival. Never would have happened and did not of course.
@hjplano
@hjplano Жыл бұрын
Guys, there are many members of AN that are members of the R&A
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Thx HJ. Good point. Agreed.
@michaeldennison-j7d
@michaeldennison-j7d Жыл бұрын
Talk about a "spot on" analysis and foresight, it's now FACT, hindsight is 20/20, evidently the Thinking Man Show proved foresight was 20/20.
@Marky_Muk
@Marky_Muk Жыл бұрын
I love the lawnmower guy 🤟☺️
@jilldorman1633
@jilldorman1633 Жыл бұрын
What about DP world do they make eight or loose to LIV
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
Liv is huge for dp if they continue to allow liv to play their events. The euro tour has always been second rate and always will be
@BillSawyerPlus
@BillSawyerPlus Жыл бұрын
Damn good video, don't necessarily agree with all of that and how it will play out. But really like your view on how this will possibly play out. Obviously Tiger's first call should be to B-Teams landscaper... ;-)
@georgechalifour88
@georgechalifour88 Жыл бұрын
Technology has killed ( phones) the wonderful world of golf so sad i was and avid golfer for life and yearned for masters every year ! my age and hip problems has done me in (80)years young ! Thanks for you both talking it over great ! If it stayed at two days a week on TV Two days . Saturday Sunday . Thursday, Friday,, Cable like it was 15 -- 20 years ago It was good Its not coming back . For me anyway. Top golfers in PGA should have kept it together , but money talks and they listened !!
@Spillaz
@Spillaz Жыл бұрын
I love you guys! Great job and content
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
Phil was right! He is a leader in world golf
@TheDryDown
@TheDryDown Жыл бұрын
Tiger Woods def riding that mower.
@camojack6293
@camojack6293 Жыл бұрын
Since this video. The DP tour has declined LIV access to play on their tour.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Thanks Camo - let’s see if the media leak comes true and they officially announce Thursday 4/6 right on top of Masters day one. That would be a deliberate act full of intrigue.
@thewi7ard
@thewi7ard Жыл бұрын
I'm rooting for DJ or another LIV player. Phil or Bubba would be awesome. I'd be okay with Spieth or Scheffler. Obviously a Tiger win would be cool.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
And will Cam Smith bring his A game….
@davidmahady8241
@davidmahady8241 Жыл бұрын
Phil outside chance of course but I dont think impossible Sergio always can win if his head clicks right direction Bubba yes but doubtful but Reed yes yes yes!!
@davidmahady8241
@davidmahady8241 Жыл бұрын
I think Cam will be warrior mode ! He always is but golf is golf hard to keep under control. Bad runs dime a dozen!!
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
@@ThinkingManShow I was going to mention Cam Smith but you beat me to it!
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
@@davidmahady8241 Motivation!!!
@stryderja9570
@stryderja9570 Жыл бұрын
I think Tiger represents his tours. He will become Comissioner of the PGA Tour soon.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
He would fit in with Jay perfectly 😂😂😂. It may have been promised to ur point.
@geedubb-q1u
@geedubb-q1u Жыл бұрын
LIV Golfers have absolutely No Pressure on them. It’s the PGA Tour and their big players (That are at the Top of the PiP ladder) that have all the pressure. I’ll be surprised if there aren’t any LIV players in the Top 5, with Cam Smith having the best chance at a Green Jacket.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Agreed Guy. Have to believe the LIV players discussed it last weekend in Orlando. And “the plot” would be helped if there is a PGAT v LIV storyline down the stretch. It would be a full preview of the rival league future concept and just how compelling (we think) or not that action feels to the largest global audience in golf.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to be hitting the $20 Billion Dollar Powerball soon. Then I will buy the PGA Tour (in one fashion or another) and will meet with all the major organizations including LIV and stop the PGA bull crap and get everyone together. You guys are 100% correct. LIV is good for Golf and really for the PGA. But it is human nature. But those few people at the top of the PGA refuse to see it or maybe they can't - maybe they are blind, so to speak. I've seen stuff like this so many times over the years in various organizations. Nothing new under the Sun! Power corrupts or at least usually screws thing up to say the least.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
I would give liv the Asian and European events with ten dates. The pga tour keeps all North America action. Let the players crossover a few times a season
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
@@chevy4x466 Not a bad idea. Let's see what the PGA does after the Masters. Rory is the PGA's poster child, nothing against Rory but that's what they want. He didn't make the cut. Koepka came very close to putting on a green jacket and frankly, without John Rahm, Mickelson stood a decent chance of winning the tournament. Mickelson's performance in the final round must really frost the PGA!!!
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
LIV is different and is attractive to a different target market....its very fan based..its an event...
@josephkwemoi2972
@josephkwemoi2972 Жыл бұрын
you guyz were right. you predicted this
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Thx Joseph. 👍
@Tee-PayneGolf
@Tee-PayneGolf Жыл бұрын
TopGolf Sim League- thanks Tiger and Rory! Good grief. Went to a course here in SoCal recently and I’m seeing ‘golfers’ playing sim golf on the range complete with TV’s, couches and bar service. I’m looking at the course like WTF is going on here? Go play golf! We in Sim trouble. Please support your local course and me @Tee-Payne Golf.
@TmmyG
@TmmyG Жыл бұрын
I have a simple inexpensive golf simulator setup outdoors. The kids love it. I can imagine the challenge of playing the same holes on the sim while watching Tiger’s sim golf events.
@stryderja9570
@stryderja9570 Жыл бұрын
The second call was the R&A
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 Жыл бұрын
This long call order is driving me nuts The. He says we don’t have time. You are spending 1:20
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
The R&A is truly global..
@scapaflow7342
@scapaflow7342 Жыл бұрын
What about the new "The Odium Cup" announced by PGA and LIV
@jeffreyprice2982
@jeffreyprice2982 Жыл бұрын
Play pga tournaments at venues that are available to the masses, not just the elite.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
The country clubs have the club house facilities required though. The fact they play pebble beach does nothing for me, I am not spending 5 k on a golf trip to pebble though
@jimzanios3260
@jimzanios3260 Жыл бұрын
Greed will destroy golf! Good move
@yami4277
@yami4277 Жыл бұрын
Golf needs some WWE, hopefully someone pulls a stunt at the dinner
@t0gden12
@t0gden12 Жыл бұрын
Game isn't failing. Never been bigger...
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tog. What data are you using for “never bigger”?
@jeffreyprice2982
@jeffreyprice2982 Жыл бұрын
Why not concentrate on bringing down the cost of equipment and greens fees? Make golf cost less and see what happens.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
Golf Clubs - they are billions of very good used clubs out there. There's a KZbin channel that has dealt specifically with just used clubs called "Stacked."
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv Жыл бұрын
The online resources and ways to get good clubs for reasonable prices are simple for established golfers and fans but it isn’t for people who are fresh and considering picking up the game. There’s also the aspect of perception to where someone doesn’t even look into things and just assumes it’s too expensive. But even then a knowledgeable player may find used clubs and knowing the pricing market see things as a good deal in context while a casual player may see that same pricing as too expensive as they don’t have that context in mind. Same deal applies for green fees and such. An informed player knows there are muni courses and the like where you can play inexpensivly by comparison to many courses that are expensive for casual players to get into the game. For example, I live near a muni where if I walked 9 holes on a Saturday it costs $18, $30 with a cart, or $39 with a cart for the most expensive time. Or there’s another close by course where walking the 9 is $25, 9 w/ cart is $39, or 18 is $50. For a casual the pricing could matter especially if you add in the extra stuff you buy like drinks or food etc and one round can get pricey if you don’t know where to play for cheap. And that adds up if you play more than a few times a year and if you want to play a lot buying a season pass and the like gets very steep. For instance if I wanted a season pass that includes a cart at the local muni it’s around $2,300 for the season which is a nice chunk. And that cost keeps me from playing more than occasionally because i just don’t want to spend that much. Courses do well with kids as most junior golf passes are a few hundred bucks or so which makes it affordable to introduce people to the game but the gigantic jump ends up taking people who played a ton and turns them into occasional players more often than not. In high school I played 4+ rounds a week now I play maybe 4 a year.
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv Жыл бұрын
But to the masses who won’t read that long ass diatribe if the game truly wanted to grow by any sizeable margin making it affordable for people would be a huge step. If you don’t know how to find the cost savings to get into the game there’s a high barrier of entry to attract big fans of the game who are the people who will actually follow the professional game. Making the game more accessible is how you truly expand your audience.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
Cam Smith at 5th or so is pretty damned high! Come on, man! To quote a famous, but not one of the best, Presidents.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
He won the players and the open last year and a recent Aussie pga win. Additionally he has 2 second places at the masters. Personally, I think brooks is my favorite to win
@whenmullet2674
@whenmullet2674 Жыл бұрын
Golf on a simulator ain't cheaper that the local muni. You still need clubs and beer. Maybe balls are cheaper.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
Thx Mullet. Golf is land intensive so it’s just not available to kids like the local soccer field or sand lot around the corner. 100-200 acres for even a small golf muni makes it impossible for kids who live in dense cities.
@camojack6293
@camojack6293 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I’m a thinking man 🤔. So you say they all need to get along..or “needs to go well”. The American fan of any sport want competition…..period. If we get Scotty n Cam smith on Sunday on the 18th. Jim Nance trying to be the professional announcer he is…going nuts to make the call. Yep. I want this master to be chaotic, players mad, yelling and screaming….. make the pga n LIV get after it. 😊
@philtookgrenadesforme7785
@philtookgrenadesforme7785 Жыл бұрын
I have always disliked patrick reed...but for this masters I am rooting for him more than anyone. Reed and Rory down the stretch. Reed takes it. I want maximum chaos. Mickelson battles woods for last place
@hjplano
@hjplano Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure JN is up to the fight ....I can add more off line if you want
@brmc6145
@brmc6145 Жыл бұрын
Golf on phones, it's the only way kids will play it
@stryderja9570
@stryderja9570 Жыл бұрын
I think u completely overestimate the powers of Augusta. The USGA and thr R&A are the keepers of the rules. I think Augusta had to beg them to roll the golf ball back. The Open, US Open and PGA all have multiple courses they could go to to remain relevant with the golf ball now. Augusta is the most vulnerable to the point where they threatened to have their own ball. Augusta was accommodated. But at what price? I think the price was LIV inclusion. If you go back to last year, the R&A was the first one to say we aren't changing our rules in defiance of the PGA. Think about it. And the DP World Tour is essentially the R&As tour. DP was Open to getting Saudi money.
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 Жыл бұрын
They don’t have to dial back the ball, they just need to test for roids
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 Жыл бұрын
Faldo is blatantly against LIv. How do U not know this ?
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone think that there will be demonstrations or displays by die hard PGA fans at The Masters? Certainly the PGA indirectly at least has encouraged, albeit indirectly, the hard feelings against LIV.
@dinglbarry1275
@dinglbarry1275 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if you guys watched the golf TV series "Full Swing". There are some entertaining segments throughout. and starts of excellent covering Spieth and Thomas, but it's difficult to stomach at times... it paints LIV in a horrible light and gives the most dreadful edits to the guys who went over to LIV and the final episode or two is disgusting the way they put Mcilroy on this perfect pedestal. I couldn't even finish watching the final episode it got so blatantly redic.
@lucasunofficial55
@lucasunofficial55 Жыл бұрын
When you say “by golf, we mean pro golf” you are showing exactly what is wrong with how people in the golf establishment think about golf.
@markspeirs8014
@markspeirs8014 Жыл бұрын
Gary Player is sponsored by Saudi Golf. I would guess he has a bias. Now Phil has issues that are many. Let’s remember what Arnie would want. Good luck to resolving this riff. It is all about power, money and greed.
@brmc6145
@brmc6145 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Greg Norman is going to help matters, apparently he wants all the liv players to be jumping about the 18th green if a liv player wins, my take on it is Norman wants celebrations in his name as he couldn't win it
@marvkwia3973
@marvkwia3973 Жыл бұрын
All PGA tour golfers should not eat with liv golf players.
@brmc6145
@brmc6145 Жыл бұрын
Gary player is having a meltdown with his two sons trying to screw him out of money and can't pay his taxes, one sone trying to sell golf balls at the masters and is banned from there, player himself crying about having to play with a member at Augusta with his family, it's the rules at Augusta, player is now bad mouthing Augusta
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
The OWGR Board must be eliminated....
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv Жыл бұрын
Even if LIV events got points the overall structure of LIV would hinder the impact. People seem to ignore that 20+ tours get points but the only one that really matters is the PGA because of the fields. LIVs fields have a select amount of top level guys and a ton of unknowns and would never stack in the same level field wise. So how do you measure that when the events are so different? How do you measure how somebody ranks playing weaker fields and less holes to people who play more competiton with more holes? You can’t truly measure apples to apples when the events have such drastic differences in what they are.
@1362pc
@1362pc Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-cr4vv You've obviously never watched a LIV event....The overall strength of the field is better than a PGAT event...the % of players under par proves that....the PGAT has 5 times the level of unknowns......the LIV players results in majors clearly show the less than 20 LIV players perform very well, v's the 130 other players who are mostly PGAT unknowns....
@alienrenders
@alienrenders Жыл бұрын
Tiger is the enemy of the PGA tour? Are you kidding me? He *IS* the PGA tour. He's the one pulling the strings. Who do you think pushed for the ban on LIV players? He is taking this very personally. He was offered a billion dollars by LIV and turned it down to stay with PGA. Tiger is driving the PGA. Unfortunately, he's driving it the same way he drives his car.
@richarddavenport1838
@richarddavenport1838 Жыл бұрын
Golf needs a business model revolution, why professional golfers are the ideal candidates to run it is a bizarre notion, let's face it Tiger and Rory couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag ! And contrary to opinion they are not adored religiously around the globe. I love the current noise and believe there will be a coming together however it won't be a sacking of Greg and his funds .. more likely a realisation by the PGA and Tigers and his puppet that they can't rule the world.... because they won't spend there own money and corporate America is loosing patience... if you want to be president you got to spend... LIV needs to be socialised with and America needs to realise its a global sport....
@ZisWile
@ZisWile Жыл бұрын
Would not pay $1 to watch a 47 year old hit golf balls on a simulator. Let alone gamble on it, cause they will be the sponsors.
@richarddavenport1838
@richarddavenport1838 Жыл бұрын
Gary player has no influence in Europe guys..
@Alexb_1775
@Alexb_1775 Жыл бұрын
Golf isn’t failing because the sport is no longer relevant. Golf is failing because the regular people in the world are getting their butts kicked in life.
@Alexb_1775
@Alexb_1775 Жыл бұрын
@@billmoyer3254 ?
@billmoyer3254
@billmoyer3254 Жыл бұрын
@@Alexb_1775 you don't have 5 bucks for a bucket of balls? you can buy a set of clubs at a yard sale, buy reconditioned balls, play 9 holes at a local muni. so, a victimhood free zone.
@Alexb_1775
@Alexb_1775 Жыл бұрын
@@billmoyer3254 got yu
@Matt-cr4vv
@Matt-cr4vv Жыл бұрын
@billmoyer3254 this is why the game doesn’t grow. To the casual person who is curious to pick up the game they don’t know the ways to get decent stuff for reasonable costs. Methods like “buy reconditioned balls, go to a yard sale for clubs” isn’t things that a casual potential player is thinking of when considering the game. Somebody who isn’t really informed of all those things is more likely go to a traditional store to look at stuff and may be scared off seeing those prices not realizing how they can find a much more affordable way to go. If you want the game to actually grow which requires new people to pick up the game, fall in love with it, and begin to consume the game consistently by playing more etc etc you lower the friction to begin the game and make it easier to pick up. Taking an attitude that people can just figure it out and afford it if they really want to and can take outside paths to afford the game stymies its growth. If you want to grow your game you make it easier to adopt not tell people they need to figure it out. Golf’s natural barrier in what it could possibly grow to will always be the cost of entry and how prohibitive that is for so many people who may have picked up the game otherwise. Soccer is the worlds most popular sport because the barrier to adopt the game is next to nothing - all you need to have is a ball and kids can adopt the game.
@thomascarey6687
@thomascarey6687 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays, I watch KZbin golf more than pro golf on TV...fact And I'm a 66 year old white dude
@stryderja9570
@stryderja9570 Жыл бұрын
Well, based on the rumours...Liv players lost the arbitration. Who is surprised...only you guys.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow Жыл бұрын
If true, how does LIV being banned from the DP World Tour help European players and potential sponsors make money? Does the euro tour even have a future with or without LIV players?
@mauricemoore6679
@mauricemoore6679 Жыл бұрын
TIGGER IS A NOBODY USED TO BE A VERY GOOD PLAYER END OF
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 Жыл бұрын
I know you don’t charge for this but can I get my time back. It took you guys like an hour to go over some imaginary broken telephone order. I’m guessing tiger starts a text thread and they mostly communicate with gifs. Golf does not need to be saved. It is currently fractured because various entities see how much money is in the sport. Over time things will continue to change. But golf at the highest level is clearly on the rise. Nfl Football has issues but it’s not going anywhere anytime soon. 18 LIv players are qualified. Now everyone knows this. As I mentioned elsewhere Faldo has used his cbs platform and others since to be very against LIv. It’s really that simple. The Ryder cup will be fine as well. Although close observers will know it’s not all the best together…until hopefully they do come together again some day. Probably sooner than later once the owgr includes the Liv accomplishments. I don’t believe these meetings you go on and on and on about will do as much as nature taking it’s course. Business. Over time LIv guys will be on the pga tours elevated events and more of the top guys on Tour will play LIv. The euro tour like most other tours will be what it is, a regional tour of sorts for up and coming players, some stars that decide to stick around despite less money (as happens in Korea with women), and maybe some veterans returning home in their 40s. The tomorrow sports obsession is ridiculous. I’m wondering if that will even last very long. Tomorrow sports is not taking over the pga tour. That is just nonsense thinking. I had to watch this on 4 quarters it was so indigestible compared to past shows. I would not go over 45 min. 30 would be ideal so you guys are more concise-I know we are watching u tube but you should respect viewers time more than this slow vaguely organized ramble. Some people may be impressed but i had to watch a few basic facts being guessed about while breaking down for an hour what could have taken 5 minutes. And then the mower. It’s happened past shows. You can edit further so we don’t even have to hear the mower coming. But really gonna have to time it better. Cause it also distracts the flow of your conversation which makes it less digestible for the audience.
@harrisonbergeron5393
@harrisonbergeron5393 Жыл бұрын
What about 'pronouns'!!!!!! Good analysis guys. (other than the key omission of pronouns) :)
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