The Middle Finger Gesture Is Exactly What You Think

[@legoobi-wankenobi3080]

I miss Jason

[@Wintermute909]

Oh no, has Jason left?

[@michaelhenderson6786]

@@Wintermute909 pretty much 😢 his absurdity was my absolute favorite part of the show.

[@InfernalBanana]

@@Wintermute909for the time being, yeah. It’s unclear if he’ll come back, but going off of a recent Great Night episode it may not be any time soon. The time stamped video is on the subreddit if you want context.

[@Wintermute909]

@@InfernalBanana thanks! That video on the subreddit was so helpful. That's a real shame.....I hadn't been keeping up with it for a while, but at least I know now.

[@Brodysseus]

It's okay to miss him but also be happy for him doing his own thing, as well as enjoy Brian continuing on with everything he has done and is doing now. Not meant as "stop whining about Jason not here," more "keep enjoying what still is coming out."

[@michaelhenderson6786]

YOU BRING BACK JASON RIGHT NOW, YOUNG MAN!!

[@abramisme]

What happen to Jason?

[@michaelhenderson6786]

@@abramisme Cobra TMZ got him 😢 they’re holding him hostage at The Strangerous KZbin channel. They’re forcing him to make really good content over there 😭 the poor guy. For reals though, apparently Jason is no longer a part of Modern Rogue, and that makes me real sad. But I’m glad he’s got his own channel he’s working on at least!

[@abramisme]

@@michaelhenderson6786 sad to see but I will definitely subscribe to his channel. Thank you!!

[@upinarms79]

He can't, I would assume. Jason might come back if they can get things back on track, but at this point maybe that isn't possible, who knows. It seems all of this is mostly financial-related and Jason's trying to make a go on his own with his new channel to support himself. He's got to make a living and apparently there wasn't enough money to go around for all of the staff, from what I understand. Brian really needs to sit down and do a "state of the channel address" to clear the air, but I'm sure it hasn't been easy to work all of this out and he's probably still trying to figure out the best way to deal with it.

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

@@upinarms79 He really does need to do that instead of continuing business as usual. Not addressing it is adding to the loss of viewers.

[@metern]

It's so sad 😞. The Modern Rogue is half dead after Jason left. And most of the uploads these days are shorts videos from past videos. The really sad thing is Scam Nation. That channel i totally dead. It hasn't had a new upload for almost a year now. The videos now are just shorts from past videos. With no new content at all. R.I.P 🪦💔

[@metern]

And the videos they upload on The Modern Rogue now days are jist plain boring some times.

[@Ezpzzy]

Wait. You gave away a black lotus? That needs to be a video in itself.

[@ModernRogue]

Yeah. I realized that playing early-days MTG was causing me to argue with friends, and I didn't like that. So I gave all my cards to my brother. (Including the Black Lotus.) He later sold them because they turned out to be worth money. I think the BL went for around $500 at the time. (true story.)

[@RiderKick_93]

Jesus it’s worth so much more now

[@Dan-Simms]

Same here man, gave away all my cards, Lotus included, and that friend of mine sold it and my binder of them all for $100 total...

[@thebiochemist2592]

jason was the gav to your dan.... its not the same im sorry. i understand everyone wants to persue their own dreams and ambitions but the modern rogue we love and know, is a combination of both of you. not separate

[@efafe4972]

this

[@JudithOpdebeeck]

i love how Jordan is always able to come all the way to Austin Texas in person!

[@brknglasses2734]

The greenscreen work is AMAZING in this one. Does that mean the british two finger thing is a derivative of that? (Edit) I said the greenscreen thing because I thought he was actually there.. now I can't tell...

[@TheBigburcie]

Not quite a shocker...

[@brknglasses2734]

@@TheBigburcie lmao!

[@-iloveyou]

the shadows and wind? greenscreen?

[@felix9100]

What about the whole story about the british archers? You know: Some fingers got cutt off but still got mine..

[@georgeprout42]

FFS Google exists. The two finger salute is still a valid insult in most of the Commonwealth even without that origin story.

[@Gryphon2026]

That's what I was thinking about too!

[@TheKingOfBeans]

@@georgeprout42ok calm down

[@felix9100]

@@georgeprout42 please explain

[@brot2878]

that's the british V

[@djsquelch8125]

For people asking about the bowfinger story, that's the middle AND the index finger. Those are the fingers needed to draw the bowstring and were the ones the French would cut off of English archers. showing those two fingers is seen as an insult similar to the middle finger in britain (and maybe other places idk)

[@pastyuscricketer]

I shall now start a product know as “Old Hoss’ Beans”

[@Wintermute909]

@ 3:40 i think kissing Caligula's fingers is also going to be very imprudent!

[@medicjitsu7434]

I've always heard the Archers in mid eval times would have their fingers cut off if they were captured. So Archers would flip the middle finger to show they still had their finger.

[@Alex-wi1mx]

its a common story, and is also tied to the British V-sign, but my understanding is that said story was made up by the Victorians

[@JD-gn6du]

I heard it that archers would be threatened to have the middle finger cut off by opposing forces because you cannot draw a long bow back with an arrow, so archers would flip off the opposition in defiance.

[@OnIiKa]

Seems like popular fingers are... popular. Might be because the English cut of the middle fingers of archers. And/Or a phallic display from Rome. We only have 10 fingers. Five of them are the same. Soo not many to choose from. Most likely its from both French and Romans...

[@ayayaycholonollores4814]

What happened to scam nation I miss it keep up the good work guys

[@ModernRogue]

Give us a minute on that one. Plan is to start bringing in all-stars. I could only teach Josie for so long. -Brian

[@ayayaycholonollores4814]

@@ModernRogue oh nice can't wait to see what you got in mind all the best to you and your family

[@wenscael2166]

@@ModernRogue Those sound like the words of a master being surpassed by the apprentice!

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

I prefer to have the thumb extended for extra emphasis.

[@jacobcasmus1882]

Bring Jason back! Tell him he has to come back at least once a month!

[@ChrisLeeW00]

Old Hoss from the Boston Bean Eaters is some Mr Burns words

[@benjaminepstein5856]

That ad has the creepiest version of The Aquarium I've ever heard. Well done.

[@VileLochaber]

Looking forward to a not filler episode

[@chiepah2]

What caused the era to change?

[@InfernalBanana]

Money

[@ChrisWCorp]

Can't wait for the Dusty Baker high five episode!

[@cort_tempered]

I still wish the bowfinger thing was real. That was fun

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

I always appreciated the joke that in Europe they use 2 fingers... because European women are more satisfied.

[@MinorLG]

Local miscellaneous con, I volunteered at once. Was security. Wondered around through event halls and con hotel making sure people didn't public weird. Was awake for like 18 hours, and crashed for rest of con

[@kilppa]

The fake laughing really makes this hard to watch for me.

[@TheKingOfBeans]

Ok

[@dire284]

Fake laughing?

[@noahhenry7657]

where the hell is jason?

[@RyanStonedonCanadianGaming]

Title, what I'm thinking. What am I thinking? Hmmmmm, im thinking about all the times I've commented asking for the damn PING PONG BALL SMOKE BALL!

[@739redrose]

I always thought the middle finger is what the English used to flash the French. What I heard was after a war with bows and arrows, the French said when they won, they would cut off the archery fingers of the English. Well the English won then flashed the thumb and middle finger at them in a 'pluck you' kind of style to taunt the French.

[@BeastOfTraal]

Biting you thumb from Romeo and Juliet is equivalent o flipping the bird.

[@elliotmurphy534]

Omg 😱 what tf is Jordan doing. 😂😂

[@phillipdavis3316]

Isn't that clip of Chevy Case from Christmas Vacation and not Fletch?

[@ModernRogue]

Yep!

[@Iaintgivingmyinstaout]

I watch that every christmas and can assure you, that is intact chevy chase.

[@verepainelistens1459]

​@@Iaintgivingmyinstaout he's not so intact anymore

[@heatherryan9820]

Just a FYI, I got the MTG joke, nice one.

[@gryffinsyme6357]

finding out brian gave away a black lotus makes me so sad lmao

[@EugeneGM1]

I love Jordan, I miss Jason, but Jordan is a great replacement.

[@Drjordanbreeding]

I’m not trying to replace anybody, but I hope the episodes I’m in are still fun!

[@EugeneGM1]

@@Drjordanbreeding That's what I MEANT to say!

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

i got the magic the gathering joke Brian, its okay.

[@PAPO1990]

I had always suspected it evolved out of the Anglo-Saxon "2 finger salute" (or reverse peace sign) which began as a way of saying "hey I've still got these fingers" as it was common for those fingers to be removed as punishment to prevent people from being able to use a bow. I then ASUMED from there it had evolved to use only the single finger.

[@macekreislahomes1690]

Also true.

[@spicytrashpanda]

Did you and Jasom break up? Where did he go?

[@binky_bun]

Is this what this channel has come to?

[@InfernalBanana]

Seems like it. I’ve been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after the explanation on Great Night and his tunnel vision around Founder’s Day, it’s really hard to. He keeps bleeding money because his ambition got the better of him, had to lay off most of his crew and his best friend, and is spending money he doesn’t have on a festival for something that’ll last two minutes, if that. Now he’s at the point on the channel where he’s milking content for numbers, stretching one video into four or five ten minute videos, and they’re from one single article on the Modern Rogue website that’ll take you maybe ten minutes to read. It’s clear it’s for numbers and to keep sponsorships, and it’s clear that he’s doing the bare minimum, cheapest content to try making back the money he’s bled over the last two years and continues to bleed. He’s already deep in a hole, but he refuses to put down the shovel and refocus his priorities. He needs to restructure his business and reprioritize areas instead of chasing after his ego.

[@quentins8165]

I was thinking the same thing. It has a completely different feel. What I loved about MR was Brian and Jason and how real of an experience it was. Comparatively this feels fake. I hope they can come back to what it was, but money and friendships are difficult to maintain.

[@binky_bun]

@@InfernalBanana I missed the explanation and stuff so I'm not aware what's gone on. I was never a subscriber but used to enjoy the videos because they would pop up in my recommendations. I knew there was the founders club thing but I never really understood what that was about. I just supposed you needed to have been there In the really early days of MR. I always found them funny and informative but this is dry and dull and just going into detail on something that's blatantly obvious. It's really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content. I never made it to the end because it just felt depressing to watch. I don't mind watching sponsored content but the content has to be worth watching to begin with

[@verepainelistens1459]

Is Dr Breeding still on Cracked Or this even more of a death spiral

[@Drjordanbreeding]

I haven't been with Cracked since February 2, 2023. So nothing released after that is associated with me in any way.

[@Vampwatch1462]

What happened to Jason?

[@johnwallace2319]

what does a modern rogue do when you lose your life-long friend? you make talky videos

[@13krg]

I really miss Jason without him it doesn't feel right, will probably be unsubscribing if this is the content we're getting from MR now. The content isn't any better than a blog post turned into a video.

[@JAKE-iv8yd]

I heard it was because captured archers got there middle fingers cut off so archers would show there middle finger to taunt them

[@frustrateduser9933]

Bert Kreisher on the left

[@MajikalCowpoke]

Dude quit with the revisionist history.

[@clippedwings225]

huh?

[@AnonymousAnarchist2]

Huh? Also history is always being revised for accuracy. It always will be too as we find more and more hidden letters, personal journal etc. Thats kinda how you know the history is better

[@xXMrPocketsXx]

Please explain, genuinely curious.