The Mighty Jingles | Top 5 Tanks | The Tank Museum

[@iaminyourwalls2211]

5% of the video: *german chain superiority*

[@isaacbatz4673]

Indeed, at least its not British chains

[@wiryantirta]

thats why they say german dungeon sex porn is above the rest. its the high quality props.

[@Muck006]

The sad truth is that the german chain USES LESS MATERIAL ... which is hard to come by in a war. The british chain "twists around itself several times" ... thus at some points there are 4-6 "layers" of chain wire, which shortens each chain element while the german one only has 2 "wire bits" at one part of the chain. I really doubt its going to take 10 times as long to make that german chain ...

[@wiryantirta]

Muck006 one way can it be that the “german method” is more careful to use less materials because of they are aware of shortages

[@dillonpierce7599]

@@wiryantirta oooooh I like that 👌👍 smart line.

[@slimj091]

The most ridiculous thing about the TOG 2 is that there was a TOG 1.

[@holyborritos3636]

This

[@egorvongorr5209]

slimj091 lol😂

[@sirboomsalot4902]

And Tog 1 had five 2 pounder guns, a 75mm howitzer, and five machine guns. It was also 3 ft longer than Tog II

[@luuksp77]

Its a TOG II* not a TOG II it has torsion bar suspension!! There was also a Tog IIR design which was shorter lighter and faster

[@DeosPraetorian]

luuksp77 why is there an asterisk by the two

[@The_Ninedalorian]

Little known TOG facts: 1. TOG comes equipped with a fully functional aircraft hangar and flight deck 2. Crew Amenities include an Olympic size swimming pool, hot tub and sauna 3. 12 hookers are assigned to the tank in addition to the 6 man crew ( 2 for each man) 4. After extensive American persuasion TOG has its own Moonshine Still and Beer Brewery 5. and quite possibly the most unknown fact about TOG is the full nude strip bar located just aft of the crew compartment with full 4 star gourmet restaurant

[@chinochiu7]

U forgot the 6 king sized bed complete with ACs

[@safwanshuhaib9968]

LMAO

[@vksasdgaming9472]

I really hope those hookers are from SHS-regiment (Special Hooker Service) instead of basic members of Armed Hookers.

[@diegrinder6851]

Hookers, well it is a crew served weapon system. Someone has to hump the ammo to the guns.

[@p7outdoors297]

Your soul and that of Jingles are meant for each other. An absolute match made in heaven

[@arvidsky]

TOG 2 would be the perfect partner for a KV 2 in a buddy-cop film where every character is a tank.

[@1987palerider]

I want this film

[@theverminator8048]

Arvid R the 4005 stage 2 would fit better

[@paulleader7000]

David Fletcher has to voice the Churchill tank though

[@thomasmacdonough288]

Bishop and kv2 is a much better match

[@obiwankenobi2749]

Thomas the the tank destroyer

[@shortshotgunman5582]

First two *Germans* PERFECTION BUILD PERFECT!! *Russians* Throw hammer on line. Tank come out.

[@CarlJohnson-wk3rv]

Tzar Nicolas The II well it would be Soviets not Russians. I suppose you did die before the USSR was formed so I guess you have an excuse for being wrong.

[@dougcasey6117]

@@CarlJohnson-wk3rv Yes he forgot and America certainly conveniently forgets, what shape Russia was in prior to communism... I'm sure it has nothing to do with imperialist propaganda.

[@jacknicholls9679]

5:52 “a German engineer would die of a heart attack” killed me 😂😂😂

[@johnmccrossan9376]

Neat feature that, saves on ammo

[@FuttBuckerson]

The heart attack would have killed the German too I reckon.

[@ericraymond3734]

Well, he wasn't wrong.

[@cleverusername9369]

Were you by chance a German engineer

[@oneeco]

He forgot to mention that the Panther tanks track wheels were an Engineers dream and the Tankers nightmare. Tankers had to remove several wheels to do maintenance on a single wheel. It sucked really bad for them.

[@creaturedanaaaaa]

I'm late but yep interleaving rollers is a bad design.

[@KoeSeer]

it's 1941, morning in some eastern europe region, air is cold, you're a Panther crew. Your tank had just passing through a muddy countryside because it was raining 2 days ago. You notice the mud is now hardened and clogging the wheels inside. You gotta open 4 joints just to clean one section. You just waste 3 hours for maintenance only for the track, while on the Soviet T-34, they probably just hose the mud with water, wipe it with rags and call it a day.

[@tomhutchins1046]

@@KoeSeer Hose rag? Nope just drive it through a river if you get stuck who cares we have more.

[@psk1w1]

@@tomhutchins1046 If there's a river nearby, the Panzer can have its wheels / suspension cleaned the same way

[@tomhutchins1046]

@@psk1w1 I was kidding about the comment on the rag I dont think anybody wiped anything down on a WW2 tank hose it off maybe but there probably was not much time spent on finer cleaning. In reality you dont want your tank near a river they sink in mud . in fact many ww2 tanks were found that way 50 years later and salvaged. It was also a comment on stalins disrespect for his people if they were killed and the tank lost who cares we have more tanks and peasants to build and operate them was his theory

[@reginaldscot165]

"Darling, now I know you wanted a Tiffany bracelet for your birthday, but I got you a German WW2 Tank chain...." "Yes the man at the Tank museum said you'd like it..."

[@therealgaben5527]

I tried this and she left me for some unexplainable reason. Guess she just wasn’t the one.

[@ladyzapzap9514]

I’d like that xD But my husband got me a rifle and a cat instead. I’m still keeping him.

[@donstolwijk4348]

In the dutch army which had Centurions and Leopards we used to say: the difference between these tanks: if a Leopard passes you 'll see a cloud of dust, behind a Centurion you will see a cloud of parts

[@plunder1956]

That's like the Austin Maxi "GEAR BAG" joke. You stir the stick arround and hope to find a gear - any bloody gear.

[@TheunisBodewes]

Dat is zo grappig! 😂😂😂

[@JimWarp93]

I was never really sure before - but after this video I can officially say: I love you, Jingles :D :D "It's so gloriously impractical, it couldn't be more British if it tried"

[@joejunior6214]

so I thought of m1 Abrams, leopard, or the merkava as #1 but I suddenly remember it's a jingles show and everybody knows that he loves his TOG...

[@adebeast62]

thats modern tanks

[@joejunior6214]

Adebeast I know but didn't you see the museum's logo and name on the video which might be a reason for the whole vid be focused on the true life and not just jingles list of fave tanks in the game that existed in real life. and btw the chieftain is in the list though it maybe because of AW.

[@DoddyIshamel]

Chieftain is in world of tanks on x-box and was contemporary with plenty of WoT tanks, it is hardly a modern tank.

[@joejunior6214]

DoddyIshamel well that might be the case but the video is not about world of tanks mostly.. in fact most jingles say is all about real life he got the tank museum as sponsor cuz the museum logo is always there.. but this is getting embarrassing and all we agree is we like tanks shall we call it quits?

[@chazt8604]

DoddyIshamel Its contemporys are the Leo 1, M60, Strv 103 all 1960's plus era tanks (probably a few more), although WoT has tanks from the 1980's as well (Chinese).

[@mpetersen6]

TOG II, during the design phase. "What do we use for the turret on this bloody thing." "The RN has some left over destroyer or cruiser turrets I think." "Righto, a county class is just about right."

[@emberfist8347]

It is actually a Challenger Turret.

[@kristofbusch3681]

I was smiling like an idiot for the whole 27 minutes, what a great video! :D

[@stsk7]

Kristof Busch your comment made me smile

[@holyborritos3636]

Ali Bubba that's cute

[@skylinegtr111]

good im not the only one

[@cukerky]

Kristof, me too :)

[@killzxc3]

its jingles what elce do u do? i mean i was there from like 2014? 2011? idk a while

[@rparker069]

"A german engineer would die of a heart attack if he saw the way this was made" it was a tactical design choice

[@thezeitos469]

Ah sheit. The genius!

[@reecelongden3500]

"How can we best the Wehrmacht? I know, let's give their engineers heart attacks when they receive the combat reports."

[@joaogomes9405]

Actually, the german engineer would die of an 85mm shell to the everything, because while he spent the last 2 months making lovingly welded panther turret welds the soviets pumped out an entire regiment of t34's that are now knocking on the panther factory's doors.

[@markusez8403]

rparker069 😂😂😂👌

[@billwilson3609]

No, it wasn't a tactical design choice. It was due to being made by illiterate peasants that went straight to work learning their jobs on the production lines, foundries and machine shops. Most had no experience being around anything more complicated than door hinges and wagon wheels. Stalin screwed up when relocating the factories by not using the skilled workers to remove and rebuild them (many died doing that) and making sure none were impressed into an ad hoc local army unit that got a weeks training before being sent to delay the advancing German forces. The Germans were quite surprised to find valuable skilled tradesmen and medical professionals mixed in with the Soviet POW's.

[@touch_of_cobalt]

20:45 The most British reaction possible of a member of the public stepping in front of a camera.

[@jude_the_apostle]

So much hopeless Britishness in one video it's too much to take

[@Jordan1159_VA]

I never noticed Nigel in the bottom corner... just slowly backing away

[@PeteCourtier]

I bet he had a flask of weak lemon drink in that carrier bag.

[@yamabushi170]

@@PeteCourtier lemon and barley, heavily diluted. And a tin of boiled sweets with a picture of princess Diana on the cover

[@emil8598]

If that was a swede realizing he accidentally photobombed someone’s video he would stealthily sneak out of the museum never to return, turn on the car, drive straight home to Sweden and never talk of this, the most embarrassing moment in his life, to ANYONE

[@Drewscipher]

Holy crap jingles can be professional. I also love that jingles praises the craftsmanship when 2 feet away there's an oil stain from where it has been leaking.

[@Drewscipher]

I'm not saying it shouldn't be leaking all I'm saying is that it is funny they didn't take the time to clean it up or for him to dismiss it by saying something like "old machine's gonna leak, or all tanks leak" like the museum staff said during challenger's walkthrough of Tiger 131 when Challenger pointed out the oil drip pan.

[@CartoonsKick]

I think we all would be leaking a bit after 70 years in a museum :)

[@zettle2345]

the fact that is has not been drained of all of it's liquids and just sat there to rust, is something I would be proud of...

[@Drewscipher]

Flavius is right, the Tank Museum takes exceptional care of their vehicles (yes some are left in open air lots but they dont' have the space to keep everything in doors). If I remember my chemistry right oil is a good way to protect metal from the actual cause of rust; Oxygen.

[@zettle2345]

Flavius, maybe you need to learn how to read. IDK I said It has not been drained of oil and left to rust. and I would be proud of that alone. Learn to read before you inject insults you don't even understand

[@codexix8582]

22:31 "Led by the secretary of the *land ship* commission..." I KNEW IT. I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!!!

[@bencejuhasz6459]

He is talking about Albert Stern.

[@danpurcell404]

I spent £20 on the tog

[@ErnestKlemaitis]

in real life?

[@bencejuhasz6459]

That's a bargain for a real tank :)

[@marianmarkovic5881]

I would never spend penny for that think, bu I was lucky got him on Togtober event, and as i can tel its fun tank, if u not wanna take the battle seriusly

[@Proteus6684]

Best realistic tank chat. I finished my career in the british army as an NCO in Bovinton training recruits. I often explained exactly the same points Jingles has covered. I tried so hard to explain the reality of foregin forces equipment, more so so they would understand the weaknesses and strenghts of ''enemy'' equipment. Knowledge is power to achieve success, I explained to the many various equipment such as the T72 updated and the Russian training in general. Also history such as the Russian invasion of Afghan, where they went right and where they went wrong. I am regretful that I could not do more for my recruits.

[@MisdirectedSasha]

It's actually crazy the difference in quality between wartime T-34s and post-war T-34s. There's a T-34-85 in the National War Museum in Canada that was made in 1946 or so and never used, and it runs like a racecar. It's seriously better than some of the cold war-era tanks the museum has. Of course it still had the problems inherent in the design: overcomplicated suspension, inefficient use of internal space and poor longitudinal balance, so the Soviets were pretty quick to replace it with the T-54/55 and things.

[@ausintune9014]

well yeah. By the end of the war the t-34 was becoming old.

[@idontknowwhereiam5801]

"overcomplicated suspension" on a T-34? What is the Sherman's one?

[@augustus_lex6126]

Never heard of the T-34 suspension being over complicated but it was definitely too large and overkill for the job it had

[@halofan6785]

MisdirectedSasha I would scream at him to leave my baby alone it’s ok t-34-85 I love you don’t let jingles bother you 😊

[@daniel3231995]

longi what?

[@Quethonable]

Did Jingles have something in his pocket or was he just that in love with the tanks ;)

[@jamiewarwick9987]

Kinky

[@RexWort]

Macdeas Jingle should play Tank Dating Simulator. He get real "physical" with those tanks. ;)

[@RatIceCream]

Macdeas Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah lmao

[@jeremychen8626]

Why were you looking down there anyways?

[@theeaselrider4032]

How bad must the TOG I have been if the TOG II was what replaced it? TOG I - Designed in the Crimean war, but ready for WWI maybe. That's one Id like to see

[@RedXlV]

www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/gb/TOG-I.php 75mm hull-mounted howitzer, a pair of 2-pdr guns in sponsons, and a third one in a Matilda turret. Or at least that's what it would've happened if the guns had actually been installed.

[@dillonpierce7599]

@@RedXlV send that to wargaming 😅 looks useful to me. If they've ever gotten around to using main and secondary guns on multi gun tanks that is......

[@emberfist8347]

@@dillonpierce7599 If they get around to that, I think they need to bring back the M3 Lee as the main issue with the tank is that they decided to have the gun you use bet the sponson mounted 75mm gun not the 37mm gun in the turret. It would also allow them to buff the Char B1 and early Churchill thanks which had the opposite issue.

[@emberfist8347]

The TOG I was a true World War I design with sponson mounted guns and all. the TOG II* (This is the British we are talking about the * is important) is when they realized the thing probably needed a turret.

[@bradrolim3731]

The tog II is really a gentleman ! It never had to kill anynobody

[@Chino56751]

It never got to do anything.

[@egorvongorr5209]

Brad Rolim that's because no one was crazy enough to pick a fight with the TOG!

[@gonewiththewind8072]

Brad Rolim 😁😁

[@pRahvi0]

A gentleman will walk but never run

[@killzxc3]

it never really could

[@obican]

Love how all the stories go downhill as soon as the words British Leyland are introduced.

[@martinhughes2549]

obican Except it wasn't British Leyland in the 1950s. It was a Leyland Motors design.

[@michaelmcneil4168]

BL was a committee of Unionistas and British manglement two things designed for the banksters to steal from

[@michaelmcneil4168]

The Battle of Frace was lost for about the same reason. A squad from REME needed to be issued with a refill every 300 miles. Pity the Germans didn't do the same, what?

[@scatton61]

If British Leyland were involved you knew you were going to be in trouble

[@1Wilful]

I wonder if Lucas did the electricals.

[@FieldMarshalFry]

more the fault of NATO for going "you need this type of engine that won't work properly" and then turning around and saying "actually, scratch that" after the engine had already been built...

[@randymagnum143]

@@1Wilful if lucas ran the world, wars wouldnt start.

[@qasimmir7117]

Wilful! Lucas did the electrics and computer systems for Concorde, and they were worked perfectly.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Remember Leyland buses. Lol

[@EVA-UNIT-13]

FINALLY JINGLES

[@chuckwin4971]

ikr?

[@doubleutubefan5]

did he really say fiance? 21:27

[@SldgeHammr]

doubleutubefan5 Yaaa he's engaged to Rita. He told everyone in Mingles With Jingles a couple weeks back.

[@doubleutubefan5]

SldgeHammr i must have missed that episode. what was the name of the episode?

[@julianpeng7147]

doubleutubefan5 I think it was number 71

[@meesguyy]

Noooo jingles! Rita will be mad as fuck you didn't put the tortwas on the list!

[@Skull-in-the-house]

I believe it is his favorites, not Rita's...

[@FragCJ]

if she's gonna be mad at anything, it's gonna be jingles cheating on her with the TOG II. Did you see that kiss? i think there's something going on there....

[@james.black981]

FragCJ do you remember the time jingles took flowers to the Tog for valentines day? He really has it going on for the Tog

[@kurth5597]

Yep. Bet there is a edible TOG atop Jingles and Rita's wedding cake.

[@daviddang9013]

Technically, the tortoise isn't a tank

[@darkner7769]

I know nothing about tanks, but I could listen to The Mighty Jingles talk about whatever for hours. The man is a legend

[@vermis8344]

15:07 The Jingles laugh! When you hear it, you know someone done messed up!

[@alexh6681]

When you hear that laugh you know Dave either messed up horribly somehow or did the most epic feat in WoT history.

[@VashGames]

Glad we got a look at the TOOOOOG tank, but disappointed that you didn't include a tour of the kitchen inside it.

[@haraldbald5964]

technically it's a "kitchenette"

[@m4ttyofficialchannel]

And the bathroom, 2 bedrooms, a private cinema and a elicopter landing zone on top

[@darklore9749]

THE pool was a nice addition...

[@vincentheartland2088]

Yeah Jingles, show us the washing machine!

[@KoeSeer]

Some TOG ehas reading room and bath tub

[@onesadtech]

That's almost definitely an unfinished oxy-acetylene cut at 7:25, not even touched with a grinder. 😂😂

[@nikolasvalentino8964]

The second I saw this was hosted by jingles, I knew #1 would be the TOG 2.

[@jansandman6983]

hahaha yeah me too

[@totallyaploy1824]

Why is that

[@evankimori]

Love your voice and the way you express your enthusiasm down to noticing the little details on the tank and talking about the structures themselves...yes. Yes. Doesn't help that you matched up close to my own personal list of favorite war machines too. :D Please keep bringing out new content. I'll def be subbing.

[@-NGC-6302-]

“With the armor upgrade, this tank was bulletproof from the front” Well, that’s a good thing... maybe an understatement tho

[@LateDude96]

Jingels: looks at the tiniest details such as chains on the side of a Panther Chieftain: heehee hoohoo T55 good tenku

[@jakreu]

Oh God, how did I miss that Jingles is now engaged ? Jesus Christ. All the best to you man.

[@tank9432]

guessimalivinglegend yeah rita

[@SantitariumHaze]

I remember when she first "moved in as a friend." I was like... Jingles, who you think you're foolin'? Glad they're moving forward with it.

[@Sreven199]

guessimalivinglegend not anymore

[@Norb_]

*feelsbadman*

[@chickenwing2453]

Hey mate, can you please not use God's name in vain.

[@hey....]

the mighty jingles is the type of person that could talk about something for 4 hours straight, and no matter what it was about you’d listen to every word.

[@pixelbucket8884]

Never thought I'd hear Jingles telling me about how good German chains are.

[@shuggiehamster]

probably something rita introduced him to on a saturday night. ;o)

[@watersight689]

shuggiehamster W

[@noupperlobemanify]

Of course. What a hack

[@Bullet4MyEnemy]

He stole the story from one of the tank museum tour guides, you can hear the guy telling the exact same story in one of his Bovington visit videos.

[@StumpyDaPaladin]

Its a good story. Of course it gets stolen.

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

Am I the only one who actually likes the way the T-34-85 looks?

[@nielsgebruers980]

No I also like it very much

[@kerotomas1]

yes :D

[@spodula]

Oh its Glorious. Its a testament to the skill of the engineers that they could design a tank that tens of thousands could be knocked off my mostly semi-skilled laborers. That's top class engineering, not a tank that needed skilled machinists to make a chain!

[@zafranorbian757]

While I will take a Panther over it every day, I admit that the T34 is a verry nice looking tank. Though I prefer the 1942 version or even better the Pz. T34 version with a german cupola.

[@fraserdavidson6900]

spodula My engineering design prof would always say, the best engineer is the one that could assign the loosest tolerances, while still achieving perfect reliability.

[@mvo5720]

Interesting video especially as I was involved in the production of the tracks for the Chieftain and the Centurion. It was also me who got the set of Tiger pins for the Tank Museum a few years ago.

[@pieterreynders5607]

Then sir...I must forward my thanks for being part of the development of the centurion! We have been using the centurion tank (modified of course!) for many years in the South African armed forces, and I would take it into battle against the rest of the world! Thank you!

[@siva4wotblitzhero531]

@@pieterreynders5607 The Centurion 1,if crewed by an Exceptional Crew could knock-out an Abrams,and it would beat the crud out of most Tanks throughout WW2

[@thomaswilliams2253]

I rather doubt it could beat an Abrams. Even the initial M1s (105s) could engage with precision at 3000 meters. Combining the range with the Abrams incredible fire on the move gun stabilization, computerized fire control, laser range finding, APFSDS ammunition, high speed, thermal sights and composite armor, the Centurion would have a difficult time acquiring the Abrams, much less destroying it. Once you move to the M1A1 with the 120 smoothbore, the Centurion (and the initial M1) becomes an A7V. The Centurion was a very good tank for its time, but time marches on and technology makes things obsolete one day that were just fine the day before (iPhones and iPads are a good example) I will say that as with everything involving tanks, it depends on where you get hit to determine a kill or not.

[@stevenbreach2561]

@@siva4wotblitzhero531 Really?Cent is my favourite tank,but to say it could take down an M1 is farcical

[@CandelaZ]

Looks like jingles took the curator's chain speech to heart lol...

[@kenhanson1819]

Great video and wonderful sense of humor! If not for this video, I would probably never have heard of the TOG 2. I hope one day to visit Bovington to see this and the other ones on your list. Especially my favorite, the Panther!

[@Mr._A685]

Great video, love the Centurion. It saved a lot of Australian lives thanks to its implementation during the Vietnam war. Tanks fighting with infantry changed our chances of a decisive victory from 50% without to 95% with tanks.

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

Err, actually jingles, you can use shaped charge in rifled guns. There is a special fitting for a HEAT round that fits around it in a metal sleeve, and it fits into the rifling of the gun and spins whilst the main body of the ammunition does not rotate. The rifled sleeve comes off in flight, similar to the sabot of APDS. However, whilst this allows it to fire shaped charge, it also looses the stability of a spinning projectile, defeating the purpose of the rifling. But it was a good trade off for still having rifling for the other ammunition.

[@mactheknife4786]

He knows less about tanks than most men know about theatre makeup.

[@rodbowes5309]

It also reduces the diameter of the hollow charge, which reduces its penetration. So far as I recall only the French 105 used this technology, so not used in the L7.

[@liviuganea4108]

That's only the french. The rest use HEAT-FS, Fin Stabilised.

[@scottboyer8450]

That was wonderful! Thank you Jingles! Thanks Bovington Tank Museum!

[@pauldavis9303]

Enjoyed the list and especially the humor in the presentation. Thanks.

[@lordofdunvegan6924]

As usual....Jingles you are very informative AND entertaining. Thank you for the video.

[@monkofmayhem1373]

07:34 Those look like thermal cutting marks to me. The type of thing you would expect to see with the very cheap and fast method of oxy-acetelyne cutting.

[@faisal3398]

Yeah at that time angle grinders were not really a thing especially not in factory environment, oxy cutting would be the most used as it's very quick and accurate enough, beyond that you could use a air die grinder but only in high precision production, for the time at least.

[@jacktheaviator4938]

VERY badly done oxy-fuel. But the Russians weren't using acetylene, they were using liquid fueled torches in their plants. I use an oxy-fuel torch at work every day, and I would fire an apprentice if they made a cut come out that rough.

[@knoll9812]

The worker was able to cut the metal. Not very good but goic be joined to the other part.

[@TheNigelrojo]

I served in units equipped with both Centurion & Chieftain variants. The Cents were far more popular with crews. The Chieftains soon had crews covered in diesel & oil, and put out little engine heat so were cold in winter. The Cents were much more reliable & cleaner; and that flat, hot engine deck was the perfect place to sleep on a cold winter's night in Germany. That Chieftain L60 engine produced so much smoke, and howled like a banshee. You could see & hear the Chieftains from a long way off - not exactly tactical. One thing both tanks lacked were 2-pin tracks (like the Yanks & Germans had), making track-bashing a regular and quite physical job. The Cent took a bit of muscle & skill to drive it properly, but all in all it was a great tank.

[@KevTheImpaler]

The thing about the Chieftain's dodgy engine sounds a bit like the SA80 assault gun debacle. Design change enforced by NATO screws up the product, which then stayed screwed because the MOD wouldn't spend the money to put it right. Also, British Leyland, no need to say more.

[@PieAndChips]

The engine was fine. The tank was originally designed to be around 40 tonnes and worked well. The design evolved until it weighed in at around 55 tonnes and the extra weight put strain on the engine. The SA80 was a flawed design from the start. It was based upon the AR18, which was a poor design anyway, and the weapons were hastily put together using left overs from the Sterling factory in order for Thatcher to be able to sell Enfield to Heckler and Koch. Heckler and Koch would only buy the factory if the order books were full.

[@MrSourceMan]

@mandellorian what in gods name are you talking about. The M4 is a terrific service rifle by any measure. Infinitely better than the SA80. For one thing, the M4 can be used by left handed shooters. Since the upper has the A2 brass deflector, casings are kicked away from the shooter effectively. Meanwhile, the SA80 knocks teeth out with its charging handle if you try to shoot it left handed. This issue is still present in the improved A2 and further versions, because the design itself is bad. The Famas, F2000 and AUG all don't have this issue. Second, the optic made for the SA80 is at best mediocre. The SUSAT looks fine and is tough, but its far too heavy for what it is. It makes the SA80 effectively weigh as much as the rifle it was designed to replace, the L1A1. (FAL) Third, it was terribly unreliable. Like, fiasco levels. The first M16s also had reliability issues, but these were due to both a different powder being used in the supplied ammunition as well as the fact they were sent into the jungle of Vietnam without cleaning kits. These issues were fixed fairly quickly and the M16/M4 has served quite well since. Whereas the SA80s issues were just due to it being a bad design, and the MoD kept denying the issue until finally having to accept that the rifle needed to be redesigned. Finally, if this rifle is so good, how come your soecial operations force never used it? How come they used either American M16s, M4s, Canadian C8s or German/American HK416s? Really makes you think if the M4 was so terriblr as you say, why would your greatest warriors ditch the improved SA80 for it? Really makes you think.

[@diegrinder6851]

@@MrSourceMan Dude, he's talking about tanks not rifles. Stay on topic.

[@Slaktrax]

@@PieAndChips The engine was far from fine. It was a disaster and nothing to do with the weight of the tank. The L60 kept cracking cylinder liners and coolant leaked into the combustion space. This and other problems like the fan drives on the rear gear case cracking were absolutely everything to do with poor design and development of the engine. It started off at 650hp with the L60 Mk4A, went to 720, then 750 (with exhaust tuning. It's a two-stroke, so it needs a carefully designed exhaust system) better cylinder liner sealing, strengthening of the fan drive mountings and eventually at Mk 13A gave a reliable 840hp.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

The SA80 is a rifle, not a gun.

[@billradloff1919]

Jingles in the TOG...now THAT puts a smile on my face this morning LOL

[@bisonxdvr]

I just got the TOG II yesterday in WoT Blitz and I’m consistently getting most destructions on the team and being able to take on multiple tanks alone. It’s been very fun so far. Amazing video as well love your work

[@jonttu050]

I would have liked if jingles talked about the maintenance problems Panher had, and how hard it was to fix if it was knocked out, to get it back in the fight as soon as possible. It was very complicated, even that made it hard to maintenance. Also, for example, if one of the inner road wheels was damaged, the first two wheels before it had to be removed, and then they could start working with the damaged wheel. Also mud build up quite easily, which was a problem. But good job Jingles!

[@bencejuhasz6459]

Well,he had 26 minutes to talk about not one,but five tanks,so I don't blame him.

[@jonttu050]

Yeah, I do agree 100%, but I find it very relevant info. But yeah, you're right.

[@martinvialle4569]

I seem to recall that the German Tactic was to hide the Pz IV's behind the Tigers and panthers until they broke down then come out to fight (while the recovery teams worked on the tigers and panthers - this last is a joke OK )

[@jancz357]

"Hans the transmission broke!" - most dreaded sentence for a Panther tanker :D

[@johnmccrossan9376]

"Zucove! The transmission broke my arm!" Most dreaded sentence for a soviet tanker

[@sabjiyom2893]

“Basil, We have lost the Rear steering Wheels!” -The most dreaded sentence for a Mark 1 tank driver

[@dillonpierce7599]

Ever heard tiger 131 stall out? 😣😳 cringeworthy.

[@siva4wotblitzhero531]

"Hans the Engine,Several Track Wheels,and the Frontal Armor Plate broke!"-One of the most terrifying sentences for a Panther Tanker who survived his Panther being Mortally Wounded and had to repair it

[@andrewwaterman9240]

Very fun and entertaining ranking! Your love of tanks is infectious.

[@0NodMan0]

*_TOG IS MIGHTY! TOG IS STRONG! TOG IS HEALTHY! TOG IS LONG!_*

[@NFDave1992]

> Panther. > Great to work at. > German maintenance crews: *Cries in broken transmission*

[@siva4wotblitzhero531]

You forgot having to remove the majority of Components in the Front if you had to repair/replace the Engine....

[@alchemist6819]

@@siva4wotblitzhero531 like Tiger and Maus oohhhhhh umm what

[@siva4wotblitzhero531]

@@alchemist6819 Panther too

[@alchemist6819]

@@siva4wotblitzhero531 true

[@jeffthompson9622]

I greatly enjoy your list and assessment of your favorite tanks. Emotions are largely immune to reason.

[@stephen9869]

That camo on the panther would be pretty ideal given the rubble and ruin of Germany at that point... P.S i know its technically not a tank, but my fave is the Jagdpather :-D

[@MrZenzio]

That is indeed another beautiful beast.

[@zettle2345]

That reddish-brown color is called tractor red, in my neck of the woods. I think everything big and made of metal has been that color at 1 time or another

[@bencejuhasz6459]

Anytinhing made out of steel :)

[@javierguillen3987]

YES!!! Totally agree with that!!! My number 2 would be the SU-100Y by the very same reasons Jingles loves his TOG. I mean, I really can not fathom what was going through soviet engineers' heads of the time; "Yes sure let's make big stronk big box tonk and put naval gun in it! It will be good enough." OR the KV-2 for that matter, not that the KV-2 is in my top 5 list.

[@stefenjohansen4854]

Javier Guillen the KV-2 was designed to blow up defenses. It was not at all meant for anti armor purposes with the exception of the KV-2 ZiS 6 with the 107. She's a bunker buster.

[@cleetrimber396]

Tog is love Tog is life

[@neildrumgold8629]

I enjoyed your description of the tanks and your impartial comments. Good work and keep up your enthusiastic hobby.

[@VioletGiraffe]

You spelled T-34 without the dash? * GASP *

[@Remmeeee]

VioletGiraffe well, it is T34 T-34 is used to destinglish it from the other T34 tanks from the other nations

[@commonce420]

VioletGiraffe That's because he's on friendly basis with her. ;)

[@Moggster23]

If they put in the dash it would slowed down production so wasn't allowed. 😉

[@M1peter1]

Moggy yes comrade

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

Well he did the whole presentation without pronouncing a single letter T other than the one in Tank.

[@BSProductionsO7]

oh I've been waiting for this.

[@hughbo52]

Delightfully comedic review, thoroughly enjoyed you commentary! Love the historical insight.

[@tijmen131]

21:29 I think that was the closest to admitting his shit with Rita hahaha

[@Matracokura]

I can clearly remember him admitting that they are an item.

[@PhilipKerry]

He said they were an item within two weeks of Rita moving in , which rock have you been hiding under ?

[@pdes_]

also, they're engaged...

[@TheWtfnonamez]

I think they are right for each other. Two of the nicest youtubers I know, both love tanks, II wish them the best.

[@winjgo12]

which episode is this btw? I have missed some as i am now currently living under a rock (wall) called The Great Firewall of China. cant barely catch up since sometimes VPN just.... plainly doesnt work

[@rogerpattube]

7:27 The T-34 armour might look as if someone just took an angle grinder to it. That would have been difficult seeing as the angle grinder wasn't invented until 1954 by German company Ackermann + Schmitt (FLEX-Elektrowerkzeuge GmbH).

[@guntherhuppertz1313]

Flame cut!

[@falloutbackgroundcharacter5912]

In Soviet Russia time isn’t relevant

[@pablosturm6640]

That just begs the question as to what they actually used to cut their armour plating into shape. If anyone has info on armour welding techniques in ww2 hit me up plz.

[@41tl]

@@pablosturm6640 oxy-acetylene torch cut.

[@afranca1825]

Thank you Mr.Jingles for this great informative video, I hope to one day go to Bovington and see all the amazing tanks there.

[@davidrendall2461]

There are only two top tanks: 2) The you're in. 1) The one you can't see.

[@SMC01ful]

Good God, Jingles has to be the most likeable guy on the planet. I love his comparisons between the Panther and T34 85.

[@dixinormous8539]

really enjoyed this, Jingles enthusiasm is as self evident as his knowledge, great video

[@Zwockel95]

V: Jagdpanzer 38 (t) = Because Hetzer. IV: T-34-85 = Won the war. Also: very special kind of charme. III: Tiger I & II = Neat suspension. Neat gun. Neat tank. II. Panther = On a tank-to-tank basis arguably best tank of WWII; sexy as hell. I. Leopard 2 = Best Panzer in the world.

[@jonny1yz]

He's a good guy....he loves all his jokes! He laughs at every one of them!!

[@nobody325]

I like the kind of humor. I had to lough several times. Thank you for this vital and inspiring presentation! Facts do not have to be told boring ....

[@Otokichi786]

5. Panzer V, Panther: mechanically unreliable, over-engineered T-34/76 killer. 4. T34/85: "good enough" design, runs forever, made by the thousands. 3. Chieftain: 120mm rifled cannon, heavy armor, so-so engine. 2. Centurion: the armor/gun/mobility balance achieved! 1. TOG2: World War I design, 17 Pounder gun, 8.5MPH, heavy armor.

[@Serkay64]

Nice how you are just trashing about the Panther

[@siva4wotblitzhero531]

@@Serkay64 Over-engineering is in most German Vehicles after a certain Year.....

[@alchemist6819]

@@Serkay64 Panthers were trash in terms practicality

[@ThePraetorianOfTerra]

I love the TOG, it's so bad ... That it's good

[@pdes_]

maryland point.

[@machaggis7521]

Actually it is just bad but it is fun to get pwned in it. Its afterall a party tank!

[@Chromodar]

If you're top tier and can force a series of short to medium range one on one fights, you can do pretty well in it. But yeah, DPM and HP pool is really all it has going for it.

[@CARUSO1944]

MJR _ Micsquisy , Tog platoons are lotsa fun, especially when top tiered.

[@marianmarkovic5881]

Its great, when u got Maliovka t7mm and still manages to do most dmg in team and win,.... :) Tog platoons ftfw

[@ThePedroski007]

The sound of a Chieftain engine was amazing. No other tank sounded like it. It screamed at you. Beautiful.

[@althesmith]

I can picture Olga and Lyudmilla in the T34 factory: "I have finished cutting these 35mm plates with torch! Who is doing finishing?" "Are all torch cuts done?" "Da!" "Okay, is finished!"

[@Tutel0093]

My top5 5. Tiger 1 4. British Firefly 3. StuH42 2. 242 Puma 1. M18 GMC

[@drifterax7731]

Gotta love that Firefly although T-54 ltwt is my all time favourite tank

[@jrg7951]

Great video! Danville, Virginia in the US has a great Tank museum.

[@thorphinnskull-splitter7602]

I've seen a lot of Panther tanks in photos but I didn't realize just how big it is. It's not huge but it's a lot bigger than I thought. It has always been my favorite WW2 tank.

[@torpaninternational8351]

Mighty Gingles presentation was appreciated ---- no tie Agreed with most of his list , although one would expect a Newcastle on Tyne guy to appreciate a Centurion It was welcomed in Vietnam by us aussie's , which Mighty Giggles left out as a war it fought.

[@brianwolle2509]

always loved the grant tank ever since playing avalon hill's tobruk. they have one at aberdeen proving grounds near baltimore. great vid

[@aaronseet2738]

"Easy to repair" sometime so many designers and engineers don't even factor.

[@Sjef0194517]

I agree had a Skoda and my friend had a Nissan. We both at some time had to replace the alternator. With my Skoda it was a 10 min fix. With his Nissan of was done in 3 days. All because one bolt, yhea you read that right, ONE BOLT. Couldn't come out because the inner suspension bridge sat in the way. Had to remove the engine from it's bay to get the job done

[@Nightshade_Daylight]

Jingles... I can 100% agree with your number one tank.

[@joeviking61]

Outstanding piece...Thanks !!

[@rougepilot5513]

"The 105mm gun was so good..." *laughs in 152mm KV-2 gun*

[@Trillock-hy1cf]

Different era (just), so I doubt the KV-2 152mm gun would ever meet the 105mm gun. But, I did laugh a bit........:)

[@SYNtemp]

Well, in fact, russian end-WWII 152mm was kinda effective, but no way accurate or anything like long-range... bcse it was quite low speed shell Against it, the shell weight of 105 L7 was ofcourse lower, but it was a high-speed one... with it comes high penetration, and quite high accuracy, even on long range A difference of some 25 years of developing tank weapons. When we look at something like Tiger II, we often dont realise that later tanks (despite of usually being lighter) have an even higher level of protection, by its thickness, slope and often by ERA/composite parts too...

[@SYNtemp]

BTW, KV-2 had just 3in gun, the thing equipped with 152mm gun-howitzer was named SU-152/ISU-152

[@gabrielsistonamoca6963]

ho ho ho laughs in Jadgtiger 128 gun that can shoot anything it sees.

[@whitetiger4448]

You forgot the M-10T howitzer part

[@DanishWiking41]

Historical correction... The T34 was not the answer to the Panther menace...... It is the other way around... The panther is actually designed based on the T 34 with sloped sides and wide tracks without rollers... 😀🇩🇰

[@alterateawful6709]

DanishWiking41 panther sides are not sloped as t 34 and the hull ia not even close

[@profd65]

He said "Panzer menace," dummy.

[@carebear8762]

The correct phrasing is, "Well, actually Jingles..."

[@alterateawful6709]

George Bingham panzer means tank im german

[@i_kemp_bush9523]

he probably meant the panzer 3 or 4 when he said panzer (not panther)

[@murrayscott9546]

Damn near perfectly done ! Done with Love, warts an,all ! Respect to all who chose ( or were forced ) to serve in these monsters !

[@limelego]

TOG I should've seen that coming

[@Rhubba]

Everyone loves the Centurion

[@aaronleverton2400]

He missed one combat deployment on his list: South Vietnam.

[@nimkomanlol2425]

No everyone loves tog 2

[@tiaanbekker7703]

Yes.....the Olifant(elephant) originates from it. I would mention that tracked vehicles are beautifull to look at but a nightmare to repair or maintain. New gen vehicles Rooikat, Ratel are more reliable...its a pity.

[@virusumf]

Thank you for the awesome video Jingles !

[@lemongames268]

TOG 2 is underrated, just slap some ERA and it’s ready to serve modern battles 😂

[@Endyrym]

20:55 xD Left side

[@kennethconnors5316]

you made this video fun ,enjoyed your banter

[@Achatius1982]

Now we all now, which chains Rita gets

[@baastex]

Actually Jingles not anglegrinder, Blowtorch

[@bremnersghost948]

indeed, that had been done by and oxy_acetalene torch and never saw a grinder

[@Sreven199]

bastex I think he meant what shaped the hull.

[@baastex]

that thickness of metal you do with a ecetalene torch of you try to cut that with a anglegrinder prepare for a couple of hours of grinding and a couple of boxes of disks

[@TomGS]

Actually Jingles....

[@baastex]

now that you say this

[@serhanorhunsun8773]

Thanks for showing yourself on the video. I was curious of mighty jingles real appereance. I was expecting a younger player without a beard : ) It is always fun to watch your playing and listening to your comments. I wish you were my father : ) TOG 2 comments are hilarious.

[@Howie262]

"Over engineering" is one common fallacy that comes up everywhere when regarding German equipment. The reality is that Germanys fatal flaw was fuel. That being said it makes perfect sense as to why you'd opt for quality vs. quantity. If you have limited fuel, you better make it count.

[@achowdhury47]

😮

[@hoodoo2001]

Not a fallacy at all. German tank production was slow, that is what happens when you overengineer a tank. It is said that the Panther could be built as quickly as a Mk IV which was true....but this was not a complement to the Panther, it was a comment on how slowly the Germans built the Mark IV. Germany was a maze of bureaucratic nonsense that was plagued by red tape and poorly coordinated manufacturing and they just not could keep it simple. Their fuel problem was another example of German short-sightedness.

[@GoingRampant92]

@@hoodoo2001 To add to what you've stated; Productions times, Cost, Man-hours, Materials, Training. All of this was higher for the Germans than anything that any of the allies built. There are so many stories of abandoned, and scuttled Germans tanks for a reason. The crews were easily the best trained in the world at the time, they literally had to be to even keep their vehicles operational. Consider any other Piece of notable German engineering, from any time really. The Mauser( Gewehr 98 ) , it's "safety" or bolt lock, was a toggle on the back end of the bolt. When flipped vertically the switch blocked the firer's sight picture, preventing proper aim. most rifles of this time, had no safety at all. Also, the lock was designed to be ambidextrous for some reason( or at-least seems to be, the switch cant be flipped both to the left and right).

[@petersouthernboy6327]

Germany’s fatal flaw was Adolf Hitler. Attacking the Soviet Union and declaring war on the Americans lost Germany the war. Prior to Barbarossa and Pearl Harbor the Reich was legitimately headed for a thousand year reign.

[@tucsonbandit]

its a fallacy IMO because lets say the Germans actually did build nothing but Long barrel Mk IV like many people suggest they should have and therefore built maybe 3-6 times as many tanks, who is going to crew all these tanks? If you consider each tank takes about 30-40 men to support (when you consider ammunition, supply, crew, crew training, teachers, medical etc..this is about what it takes) and if you need to support 6 times as many tanks you will need massive increase in trained crew and support. Germany was already short handed trying to crew and supply what already actually existed. The idea they could simply build many times more tanks than they did and then crew them and supply them was never an option. IMO its likely that the main reason germans tried to out engineer their opposition was born from necessity instead of some sort of cultural autism, although germans do tend to be neat and orderly. The russians built in quantity because they could. both sides strategies were the result of their reality. Germany may have never been able to win using their relied upon strategy, but I think it was likely their best option save not going to war at all...

[@Porkpickle]

Thats a hand cut with an oxy torch not a grinder on the t34 85 plates just so you know

[@paulh2486]

yep.. i was thinking, this guy doesnt know much about tools if he thinks thats an angle grinder.

[@TheTrudgingTech]

what's odd is there's a good foot of metal that was visibly cut by something besides a torch. someone put it together, realized it didn't quite fit, whacked it off with a torch, and sent it out.

[@diegrinder6851]

@@TheTrudgingTech No that was the initial rough cut for that bit of armor. They just were not gonna waste time and man power to dress up the cut with a grinder.

[@russwoodward8251]

Really great Mighty Jingles. Thanks!

[@AHDBification]

I love this man so much for being able to laugh at British Engineering. Most British presenters are so nationalistic they can't talk about or even admit to mistakes made.

[@mogz1485]

😂That's every presenter and politician ever

[@harryML9754]

What, he compaired a chain from someone who isn't trained to someone who makes chains everyday, it wasn't a mistake, one is clearly gonna be better than the other.

[@sksaddrakk5183]

@@harryML9754 I think AHD was referring to the TOG2's entire design, not the chain at the beginning of the clip

[@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751]

David Fletcher also enjoys giving British armor its fair "boos". He's hard on British more than nearly anything else he covers . It sure makes for some great laughs.