The Mind of MKLeo: Ledgetrapping

[@BlubberMaker]

When a small youtuber with less than 3000 subs makes a 15 min ultimate guide that teaches incomparably more than a 30 min guide from a former top player in the world

[@Poppt1]

loooooool

[@davidliu4608]

Poppt1 nekminnit 80k subs

[@dinnerboons1504]

That was 11 months ago.

[@davidliu4608]

Dinnerboons 🙉

[@nonghole4870]

91k now

[@icantgetthenameiwant5848]

Phenomenal video, you’re raising the skill level of the community. You break a complex, high-level skill down in a way that shows that anyone can attain that level just by fixing their habits and practicing. The slow motion breakdowns with the captions are especially helpful. Keep it up!

[@Poppt1]

Thank you so much, making things simple is definitely key :)

[@Tibovl]

@@Poppt1 The content is actually excellent but you could use a little work on the delivery. Your voice sounds very monotone throughout this entire video. If you could work to improve this, I'm sure you'll make it far!

[@93krstn]

What a great video, I learned more from watching your video than watching a match from MKleo. The pauses, slomos and text were very helpful.

[@Poppt1]

Thank you! Yeah it's pretty crazy that you can watch a match and not realize how much is actually going on since smash bros is quite in depth at top level

[@93krstn]

So true.

[@Ganonballer]

Breaking down 15+ examples with the play by play instructions really helps people actually grasp the concepts in action, thank you. Great video!

[@Poppt1]

Yeah I love getting real examples when learning stuff so I'm glad it helps others too :)

[@jem7316]

A video on shielding effectively in neutral would be helpful. I bet that using shields is deeper than “I’m scared to get hit because I whiffed”. Anyway thanks for the tips.

[@kyle88740]

Second this. I often feel stuck in shield because I shield too early or at an inappropriate time.

[@Poppt1]

That is a great idea and the likes back you up! I'll see what I can do :)

[@cowless]

Yeah a video on that would be cool because yes there is more than just shielding to not get hit after a whiff (which should still be mixed up with other options). You can also bait shield pressure for an out of shield option (really good at kill %s) and using shield near ledge can limit your opponents recovery to stage. Mixing it all together gives you a really consistent and effective shielding method that doesn't get punished easily.

[@OrionSeas]

This is incredible. I've never seen a breakdown like this before. You not only discussed the options, but broke down the thought process behind exact movements. Thank you so much!

[@AiZm8]

The editing is underrated. Even on the nairo and samsora clips, it’s cut in a way that the commentator finishes their sentence so it doesn’t sound weird to us

[@Poppt1]

yeah I love it when the commentator points out the point in the video as well I make sure to leave it in and subtitle it sometimes haha

[@AiZm8]

Poppt1 The reason why it stands out so much to me is because back when I watched league highlights, they would always cut the commentators off in the edit and it was always extremely dissatisfying to my ear

[@thedean9282]

The born of LEDGETRAPPING!!!!

[@DanielGonzalez-qf5de]

This is just... incredible. I never realized just how effective always moving around roll distance really is. Honestly one of the best tutorial videos yet. Bravo!

[@bobbill4257]

How is this the first time I'm hearing about your channel? This alone is one of the most informative videos I have ever watched

[@Poppt1]

Sorry for the audio level rising after a bit, I recorded audio on 2 different days and didn't match the levels D; I'm going to put the summary of the video in the description just in case people want to copy and paste it somewhere or whatever!

[@Pal0maSama]

Could you do a video on edgeguarding? Your videos are fantastic, by the way.

[@AiZm8]

you should mention to give credit

[@KingOfStrapFanboy922]

Dude this is the best ledge trapping video ive seen. Ive tried to study Leos ledge trapping for so long but you broke it down so well. I definitely improved a shit ton after watching this

[@errrcc]

These into the mind vids are for reals best smash vids I’ve seen! There are tons of combo vids out there but they don’t teach you HOW to apply them. These into the mind vids have made me much better and improve. Thanks!

[@phoenix5029]

the hell, why did I find this video sooner!? the way everything is broken down makes it so easy to understand... now I gotta check out your other videos!

[@tgt566]

Oooooh, I‘ve been looking forward to this. Honestly, your continuous quality is amazing. It’s always a pleasure watching a new video from you and I always feel like I’m becoming a better player because if it. Thank you!

[@Poppt1]

Thanks it definitely helps me become a better player too cos I have to work out how to simplify things so much I get a better understanding, now I got a new mic the quality is staying up!

[@maxharrison3733]

Samsora has a really interesting play style. It would be awesome to see a video on his mixups (basically Peach’s entire meta) and/or option coverage. He also “fishes” really well in neutral for his d-tilts and low% nairs and bairs. Great video! Loved how you repeated stuff verbatim so many times to really drill it in and demonstrate how play-by-play the strategy can be while also annotated unique cases that weren’t significant enough to be covered in the main video. Keep it up!

[@user-jq1mt6yx1j]

Man, these video's really make things click. I always noticed that opponents would only ever seem to cover roll get-ups from ledge more often than not, and now it makes sense as to why. Really looking forward to practicing all the things I've learned in your tutorials. I had some experience and knew bits and pieces but you really put the big picture together. It's really great that you're sharing this knowledge freely.

[@nikog5902]

This is where the ledge-trapping legend's humble beginnings, great vid.

[@dragodadragon]

These videos are so great! Can you please do a video about how Light uses movement? I don't know how to describe it better than that at this point, but his Fox moves better than anyone else in this game and you can really see it during his Top 8 run at Glitch 7. I actually got the privilege of money matching him on Saturday after he finished doubles and it was a pretty amazing experience. The reason why I wanted to play him in particular is because I also main Fox but even though we were doing a Fox ditto he was literally running circles around me just outside my direct threat bubble and it was really fucking hard getting back on stage once he knocked me off. (That madman even footstooled me once as an edgeguard). I'd also like to add that I didn't get 3-stocked every game lmao After we played I asked for some feedback and he first thing he told me was that I needed to move more. I already knew that empty hopping and dashdancing is incredibly important as Fox in order to bait out options, but what other was does Light use movement to make my Fox feel more like my Incineroar?

[@Poppt1]

I have a video about light with his aggressive playstyle if you haven't seen that one yet, but I'll defs try and do more neutral based videos in the future :)

[@annabethchase2569]

@@Poppt1 Both Light and Marss about their movement. They both have super fast characters that can get from one end of the stage to another in the blink of an eye and require amazing movement.

[@cesarcx2]

I usually don't notice the good ledge trapping during a pro match. Very detailed vid, now I'll be able pay more attention and try to apply this in my games.

[@lududelubin3011]

8:57 the thing with Luci's fsmash is that it doesn't hit grounded opponents until frame 11

[@Poppt1]

I was thinking that was the case but didn't know for sure, thanks!

[@flowgix6427]

These guide from 2 years ago are still so relevant, been focusing on improving ledgetrapping, disadvantage state and advantage, I watch these on repeat as I play lmao ^^ ill download it in my brain

[@samstade5598]

This video is actually amazing. Thank you for all of your hard work!

[@CherubMeutrich]

Probably the best piece of media about ledgepressure I have ever seen. Respect!

[@Swashbucklebuckle]

They keep coming more regularly and I love it! Once again a well-done teaching video!

[@saigesmart4167]

God bless you, I've been trying to figure out ledge trapping recently and this video was perfect. Truly shows what I should be doing and why, before I just kinda held shield and tried to punish or thought I had to just cover as many options as possible

[@Poppt1]

Don't worry I was in the same boat pretty much since holding shield was OP in smash 4 haha

[@acerola_pekora]

very underrated smash channel, hope you get bigger and bigger even high level players can get some great insight from your videos

[@Lordlos9]

watching this two years later, great vids you illustrate things probably better than pros do and you show examples. Nice job.

[@orion5170]

Jordan Riddles you are phenomenal

[@JB_CY]

This is so awesome, I actually understand what higher level players think about, thanks so much!

[@Poppt1]

No worries!

[@Cobalt777]

Went and watched Zero's video after this one, and yours was honestly more helpful for me! Thanks for breaking down the shield frames and everything keep it up!

[@willkirsch6976]

This video is exactly what I needed. I'm consistently getting juicy edge guards as a Yoshi player, but when I'm in a matchup that requires me to ledge trap I'm completely lost.

[@PrestonDLuffy]

Two players that I think would be great to spotlight and see videos on are Shuton and Kameme, because the former recently has been EMBODYING the aggressive neutral philosophy and inventive improvisation like the legendary "Dairing the pikmin" and the latter is now known for his patient adaptation and taking sets off the most top players.

[@1jojorun]

Awesome video series, Poppt1! Keep coming back to your videos to learn more and refresh on my game knowledge

[@abrogaming5976]

This really gives so much more respect to how complicated this game really is, and how much pros have to keep in mind.

[@LumboDumbo]

This video is incredibly well done, ledge trapping is much easier for me to understand now

[@Realhuman111]

These videos are SUCH a W. It makes the complex pool that is competitive smash into something SO organized and easy to understand. The DUMBEST idiot could easily get something out of these. I can literally TELL you care duuude, I'm so grateful for these videos.

[@DragonWarrior7771]

Love your videos so much! Even by watching pro's replays, it can be hard to understand why they did something. Great job breaking it down for us

[@spinq1853]

I learned so much from this, thank you

[@SapoNinja9]

this video is excellent dude I got a basic idea of the concept with Zero's video, but now I feel like there's a lot to explore and practice

[@Super_Wooper]

Ledge Trapiiiiiiiiiiing!

[@Havoc_279]

Thanks a lot!! You deciphered what pro players are doing and showed it in a way anyone can do with enough practice

[@slyscoops6822]

I was really consistent in ledge trapping in 4 and suck in últ but this video gave me a different concept, thanks

[@kaichus4841]

You’re great I’m looking forward to more of these analysis and breakdowns

[@ElkkuPimpBiatch]

Absolutely the best videos

[@soulthesassyassassin3616]

I’m gonna keep this in mind. Thank you!

[@mauson5]

I love the series fam. Cant wait to see your take on the Mind of ESAM

[@jahzeelsalagubang7504]

Thank you for the video! You really breakdown concepts that is really hard to comprehend. I’m learning a lot from your videos and I’ve been playing for a while haha. I appreciate how you explain the video while showing great examples. Anyways you’ve earned yourself a sub :D keep up the great work!

[@Poppt1]

Thank you!

[@yukidraco4821]

6:12 😭

[@lonelymascot]

man im glad i found this channel, cheers little Z

[@thecentiskorchmaster8273]

thanks dude really appreciate it, I learned this from you and now i almost always succesfully ledgegaurd when playing with my friends. Keep up the tutorials

[@Dakpo]

Awesome video :)

[@javiermahana3475]

A really good and educative video! You earned a new sub :D

[@Poppt1]

:D

[@alfredogonzalez9420]

Same

[@mageferago]

These are literally amazing videos thank you so much for taking the time to make them

[@nakano281]

This is a really good video

[@XxILikePie03]

Ledgetrapping and Edgeguarding are one of the coolest things about watching smash.

[@auroricaura]

... huh, this is how I always ledgetrapped, even in smash 4. Probably because Palu in smash 4 didn't have good shield options, punishing roll was pivot grab, normal get up/get up attack was ftilt/dash attack and jump was uair.

[@hiimIan1872]

LEDGETRAPPIIIING!

[@amonferrell4452]

The litteral first change I noticed in ultimate is how they buffed ledge roll. Unless you were really far from ledge, they would always end up behind you and I feel like no one mentions this but this video clearly shows that ledge roll has to be compensated for more in this game

[@13wayz70]

LEDGE TRAPPING!!!!

[@sirTyperys]

I'm covering roll!

[@nahiku8521]

Thank you so much for these videos ❤❤❤

[@Poppt1]

No worries I hope they are continuing to help!

[@megamatt1915]

Yet another great video!

[@tasium5296]

Time to learn how to ledgetrap as wolf

[@peep9636]

This is why deedeedee is one of the best character at ledge trapping

[@joshdamighty]

Regular Roll Attack TOURNAMENT WINNER Drop off double jump Staying on ledge

[@yaboi6851]

stop trash talking ledge options regular getup is FAST ledge roll is UNPREDICTABLE ledge attack is AGGRESSIVE tournament winner drop off double jump is CAREFUL staying on ledge is PATIENT

[@joshdamighty]

@@yaboi6851 All I did was change ledge jump to tournament winner lol

[@joshbaack6098]

These videos are great

[@Mari-lg1wk]

5:22 the read was so hard that the quality dropped to 144p

[@Poppt1]

loool yeah I've turned up my recording bitrate so future videos should be much better quality WOOPS

[@Mari-lg1wk]

@@Poppt1 Lol Besides that, the video was nice

[@Etienne3333]

Thanks for the get up attack punish I main lucina and it really helps

[@nesssniffyfan1987]

I absolutely love your videos. thank you

[@AverageHandle_]

Me: presses B as k.rol

[@Poppt1]

also good

[@AverageHandle_]

Poppt1 glad you think so

[@AiZm8]

Hi Pop, I have a question for neutral get up and get up attack. So let’s say I’m mkleo as fuck and going around roll distance, and then go for a grab when I see neutral get up. I looked up distances of get up attack and it seems kind of large, so how can I avoid get up attack ranges (I couldn’t find a roll distance chart to compare) while being around roll distance? I feel if I hang back too much then if I go for a dash grab on neutral get up I may be too far and they can spot dodge/roll or something and then I’ll be in disadvantage. I love your videos by the way and I definitely want to implement the concepts you went over in this video!

[@jillianmonks5030]

Really great, informative video. Thanks!

[@nabil2085]

ok. subscriped. can't believe i didn't know this channel existed.

[@dat6uy2]

Nabil ah yes welcome fellow subscriper

[@nabil2085]

@@dat6uy2LMAO whoops

[@something1558]

I think you should make some videos like this about doubles. There isn't nearly as much info about doubles compared to singles.

[@WIFIBoWsErChAd]

POPPT1

[@John_Smith_]

Ledgetrapping is really important in competitive, and really important (to not do) in fun games.

[@cubicalprobably]

Forgot to mention ledge snatching.

[@jynx7588]

I think you should do a video on defensive neutral and how to effectively use defensive options in neutral (Like shield)

[@HaramLobo]

You need to do more “mind of” videos, about plats, triplats, “mind of” specific characters like “Link: Mind of T”

[@fightinggold7674]

Phenomenal video. Thank you

[@benbevan3120]

Yo nice feature in yeet smash

[@justinchoy476]

Awesome content! subbed

[@danielschubkegel4959]

Thank you so much for making this!

[@ChillavaKirby]

Long live the king

[@dvaccaro96]

Fucking great video man. I wanted so bad to have more in-depth understanding of what a top player thinks while playing and this format is perfect for that. Would you consider doing character-specific ones? I'd love Little Mac (because he has such a different playstyle compared to the rest of the cast) and Bowser!

[@CaptainG-zero]

Great video. This is definitely helpful, can you do a video on Conditioning as well. I would love to see that thanks.

[@Nehji_Hann]

It's too early in the morning today for me to pay attention and learn stuff Saving this for later so I can become the next champion

[@Blyeth-go4wr]

i love ledgetrapping now lol u taught me so much thx

[@nougat7253]

still Mclovin that tune

[@atha5469]

That is so gooood

[@phdtrester.5728]

I'm glad You did this, still helpful:)

[@VeraxMVS]

Very informative video. Great work! Can you do The Mind Of Big D? Im an ice climbers main looking to improve

[@Yoker220]

*Ice climbers...*

[@annabethchase2569]

If you are going to continue making these, I'd suggest getting a proper mic. I'm sure the community would appreciate it. Your video content is phenomenal. Your should be a smash teacher XD

[@astral107]

Amazing video! How about a video on tech chasing?

[@Connortbot]

this goddamn song again

[@Apa-is2jz]

amazing vid really learned a lot

[@Erik-qu4xc]

I miss this stuff! Are you gonna be making more of these?

[@matthewpeck6964]

Just wondering, if the charcter has a tether grab, should they still grab a normal getup or do something else. Also, if they don't have a kill throw, what should they look for to safely get the kill (especially if they have tether grab)

[@Poppt1]

Honestly I've never played as a tether grab character so I haven't looked into how those players ledgetrap unfortunately! A lot of players also short hop to try and landing aerial to get the kill on getups, or even just f smash. I hope that helps a bit?

[@efrain-es7xn]

I mean your not wrong on saying that mkleo knows to do a smash attack on ledge baised on how the character moves. Its actually based on their habits and knowing what they might go for. Thats another reason besides watching what they're doing.

[@mayguo8947]

Can you make a video on how to stop getting grabbed or how to deal with projectiles?