The Mind of Zackray: Landing from Disadvantage

[@waifoo4300]

The reason you lose retention at the examples is because you say “thank you for watching”, as if it’s already over. My brain wanted to react by moving on to something else even though I knew the video wasn’t over, because that’s a key phrase that tells the listener/viewer that things are coming to a close. I’d reccomend just stating “here are some more in game examples” and saving “thank you for watching” until afterwards. It’s a small thing, but giving your closing remarks too early sends the message that what follows isn’t worth watching. People will have to already understand the importance of the examples and really be invested in seeing them to stick around when their brain is kind of pointing them in another direction already. That said, you make some of the most helpful and informative videos on smash ultimate. You save me hours of sifting through pro games by analyzing their habits and breaking them down into their simplest forms. Anyone who really wants to improve should do that regardless, but very few people take the time out of their day to share their findings publicly. Thanks for doing what you do, and doing it well.

[@disappointedfather9394]

Using double jumps and playing overly defensive are my two worst habits. Great content as usual man

[@Ts1k0s]

Poppt1 I'm good with lucas and you are good with ness

[@dowbailey6033]

That’s my disadvantages as well

[@joegregory4382]

Dude I never really comment on videos but this series is just incredible, so much great analysis and loads of examples from professional games. Keep up the good work!

[@GenophefeElisabeth]

This is like ProGuide's videos, if their videos were good.

[@Poppt1]

LOL

[@nintendope8837]

@@Poppt1 when poppt gets a sponsor call from them and see this

[@literallydeadpool]

Their videos aren't all too bad, it's just that they kinda beat around the bush too much.

[@elliotbuera6891]

10:12 Zackray playing his twin brother who mains Palutena

[@Lagoa_real]

Jackray the Palu main

[@ayudrs]

I think you should wait till after the examples to say "thank you for watching" because when you said that before the examples. My mind automatically thought the video was over and thought about closing it. Nice video though.

[@noahvapor]

(Please dont take away the part at the end ever. I'm one of the few that sticks to the end and I know I benefit from it)

[@Poppt1]

I never will!

[@noahvapor]

@@Poppt1 thank you

[@KikeRes]

Such an amazing analysis, thank you Poppt!

[@rhyno6264]

Notification Squad, Keep up the great content dude. Love the videos

[@user-fu7no1xu5b]

Your videos are consistently high-quality and extremely insightful. I absolutely love your content and appreciate it so much. You're the best smash channel I've ever watched and I look forward to watching more in the future.

[@phoenix5029]

People don't stay for the examples? But that's how everything is shown in action! Great guide, though now I'm curious, are these typically going to be uploaded after every major tournament?

[@adamyohan]

Your tutorials and guides are honestly the best I've found on yt along with Izaw's. The lofi music makes it even better

[@Swashbucklebuckle]

Please don't put Izaw on the same level as him.

[@splaturials9156]

​@@Swashbucklebucklebruh both have extremly good insight in smash so why not

[@Swashbucklebuckle]

Excellent! A new video and even one that I have been waiting for. 👌 You should totally start a patreon since this content is so helpful, I feel like I owe you. Keep up the great work!

[@Poppt1]

Haha thank you but I have never even considered that, I'm happy just making youtube vids :) I'm doing full time work for prac for the next month so wont be able to post more than about one a week for the next month ;(

[@Swashbucklebuckle]

@@Poppt1 It's not that I have ever donated money on patreon but I would definitely consider it for your content is just so good. And dw, quality goes over quantity! ;)

[@r12365]

The examples are what make your videos so good, I don't get why people wouldn't watch them. They are showcasing everything you explain in practice.

[@pokemon_humor]

Hey it’s great that you pointed out the people that don’t stay for the examples at the end! Often times I am one of these people because I listen to your videos at work or in a situation where I can’t read or even watch, so I hope it makes sense that can’t read the text/visual only examples towards the end! Thanks for the content as always still

[@iridescence7554]

This video is honestly great. Everything makes sense, structured well, and is extremely informative. I know this will help out not only myself, but a lot of people as well. Keep up the great content!

[@itzcryptecz1261]

I don't really comment much but this video was actually really good and insightful. I loved the explanations and examples you gave, it really helped me out!

[@questioneverything680]

I think something important to note is how top players use a quick move when they can’t be punished to get out of tumble. It makes accessing ff neutral air dodge easier earlier because you can’t ff out of tumble.

[@MuNiqab]

Man please keep this up i am staying always till the end. These Videos are so good. Thank you

[@bachyas8888]

You're the goat Poppt! :') no one in yt since 'my smash corner' was this smart and insightful at sharing his knowledge, thank you bro. Keep the good work, I'll be rooting for ya'

[@zeke547]

Last 2 vids we're good and so was this, subbed

[@bobsmith93]

Awesome video. Super informative and really good examples that demonstrate what you're saying nicely. I think people don't stay till the end (ngl I didn't) is because trying to read and watch the clips at the same time is kinda hard to do. I suggest narrating the example section at the end. Or use freeze frames and text that's a bit easier to read. I find trying to read them and watch at the same time is a bit stressful because I either miss a bit of the gameplay I'm trying to analyze, or I miss the subtitle.

[@patrickhill4931]

This genuinely gave me a new perspective. This helps a ton!

[@bridger9957]

Great video as always but I love the summaries you usually end with!

[@despa2336]

Never seen you before but it's so in depth, love the content. Liked and subscribed

[@apoeclipse]

When he says Zackray,my ears tell me "Sakurai" lmao

[@sylverlune]

Really good insight! This will surely help people like me who are stuck with these bad habits.

[@nifereipcard]

Thank you for this! Great concept coverage and definitely helped raise my awareness on this subject

[@Braillionaire]

I so thoroughly enjoy these videos. I have 3 kids, and very little time to go to tournaments (I sort of run tournaments and funnel resources to the scene from behind the scenes where I’m from). It’s so hard to stay in shape and continue to improve, since I don’t get much practice in person, but these videos help me a LOT by talking and walking through these concepts! I have learned so much about maintaining advantage, playing aggressive and smart (Mango is my favorite melee player, so I especially enjoyed that video), and now I get to go online and practice landing! I don’t suck in this area, but I definitely don’t put myself in the best positions. The idea, that we should be returning to NEUTRAL as soon as possible, and not trying to get back into advantage is what I really needed to realize! I often fall for the bait of “I just got hit…I’m going to go towards them and hit them as quick as I can” instead of thinking “How do I get back to neutral, so that I can play my game and put myself in a good position.” An amazing Melee player to consider when thinking about positioning (even out of disad) is PPMD. He was one of the most position minded top players in the game for a long time.

[@raykois2727]

Amazing !!! I really think your guides are the best in the smash world! There is also bananaboy (who is funnier in his videos :p) but i really like the fact that you are giving examples! So good!

[@CloverSmash]

Hey poppt, your videos are helping me a lot to grow as a player! Please consider doing mkleos edgeguarding or avoid getting edgeguarded next, thanks a lot!

[@Poppt1]

Both great ideas! Thanks :)

[@doetube9]

Dude this is sick I feel like I learn a lot from your videos

[@aidenzorn8322]

wow, this is actually super helpful. i'm already starting to see improvements in my gameplay after watching this series

[@WillySounz]

Poppt1, I found this channel because of Little Z but I'm staying because I like your content. Keep going, you're doing great!

[@pav-el4047]

Yo, this video was actually super helpful! (Sorry, I wasn't expecting much) If you haven't, you should do a video on playing neutral.

[@TheNinjaPanda45]

so chill and so informative. TY!

[@David-sv7hl]

No one else is making content like this. Keep it up. I’d like to see edgeguarding.

[@spirunk63]

Here are some more vid ideas: Advantage state/juggling Getting off ledge Edgeguarding Tech chasing Movement/Neutral

[@No1tgffgh]

This was incredibly helpful! I tend to get get caught up attacking out of disadvantage. Cant wait to put this in to practice!

[@clearandsweet]

This video is so insanely helpful. Thank you.

[@thisistheglace]

Great video as usual

[@kojisama7004]

A video on empty hopping and baiting would be great, love the videos mane

[@BBSnape]

Amazing content. Thank you for all the detailed examples

[@benreid4662]

Such a great analysis!!

[@MiddleClasshole77]

Hey, the summary of all the points written out that I usually screenshot isnt in the video or the description. Do you have it in text form?

[@raykois2727]

I thought the same thing ^^`

[@Poppt1]

Oh damn I forgot! Thank you I've updated the description now haha :)

[@jonathanso3358]

Would you have some kind of compendium of these screenshots available?

[@NMJCEO]

Gr8 video man...I stayed till the end :)

[@sonof41]

Here’s a quick tip that I didn’t know for a while and some people might not be aware of. If you get hit into the air and are in hit stun, you can’t fast fall until you use an aerial or a jump. So if your character has a fast aerial you can use right after hit stun ends to have all your options when landing. This can get punished if you use it a lot and your opponent is near you, but if you are a safe distance away from your opponent it is a good option. Zachray does this a few times in the video, 3:26 - as wolf he uses fair while he is a safe distance from wario 5:37 - When hit stun ends he immediately uses fair at the top of the blast zone 12:03 - He uses aerials to have faster landing options Hope this helps someone!

[@shieldlesscap6124]

To be fair, in your example at 2:10, the Corrin can’t react to the Roy if he decides to go for DJ Up Air, and if he does nothing, Corrin falls fast enough that a DJ Up Air will connect. Since the Corrin does not want to burn their airdodge out of fear that Roy will just catch them with a Smash Attack, a jump is the safest option there since it’s the only option without risk of an immediate threat that will kill. At 2:28, the Corrin is actually in a better position than before, since now the Roy is on the ground and the Corrin has more time to react to a possible jump up air. He fails and gets hit, but this is a shorthop up Air rather than a fullhop/DJ up Air so it doesn’t kill, and either way he was significantly more capable of airdodging this time.

[@siennas254]

I love your content, keep it up

[@slendewgaming5888]

Very useful! I appreciate your work, thanks

[@colinriley5034]

These videos need more love

[@ChiefBeef999]

Great video, super instructional and very easy to understand

[@neo1947]

Great video. Please do more 👍👍

[@birby3803]

thanks a lot dude I have been struggling to land with lucina at very high level play Ill keep these in mind your vids help me out sooo much

[@XxILikePie03]

Extremely insightful video, much appreciated! Zackray is my favorite Ultimate player!

[@martincheung6776]

Your content is the best smash content for mid level players ive ever seen

[@jackbauer7849]

Great vid man, very helpful! Btw I'd love to see a video about good all-around fundamentals to have because mine need some work!

[@freshyeska9875]

Amazing video, just subbed this really helped me.

[@yabasta13]

What a video! Should be a must watch for smash players!

[@mms7328]

9:59 LOOL double zackray(was that intentional?)

[@PrestonDLuffy]

I joked about Void in the comments in a recent video too, but for real a few weeks ago some pros were talking on twitter about one of Void's strengths being how well he switches between defensive and offensive play. And how his timing always works out well but also throws off his opponent in the moment. Another player too who's been commended on their unpredictable options is Marss, how he'll pick the most seemingly random option and yet it's always the right one.

[@KingOfStrapFanboy922]

Amazing content as usual

[@protoasha]

Hey I just wanted to say, I love how analytic you are! I like this series a lot. Some of my two cents as someone who doesn't always watch the end is that it's nice to have you talking and explaining things as it happens. In your example segments at the end however, you just have text and force us to read while also trying to watch what's going on. I'm personally not a big fan of that, but I love everything else you do. Just wanted to give some feedback that maybe can help out tho :)

[@SmeeGuitar]

good content, keep it up bro!

[@ratchet6470]

This really is an amazing video.

[@JDankMemes]

I think the biggest problem I have with trying to learn is getting overwhelmed. Watching this is very helpful but I always doubt that I’ll ever be able to properly implement this as it’s a lot to take in. Ik, it all comes with putting in the work, practice and time, again I just can’t help but feel overwhelmed just a bit. Still a great vid though and I’ll try my best to remember this stuff.

[@rickyvo9451]

Bruh what’s that bg music in the video? That stuff slaps

[@maiitoVA]

I personally didn't want to watch the examples because the video went from hearing you talking about the interactions to me having to read descriptions while also trying to watch what's happening. I think you'd get more retention for the examples if you talked over them instead of using text, and also if you scattered them throughout your video, maybe leaving a couple good ones at the end. This was a fantastic video though, and helped me out a lot. Great stuff!

[@-smudge-5209]

9:57 Your greatest enemy is yourself Great video btw

[@9fresh252]

A lot if smash tutorials are on advantage state, and that's why mine is so good, thank you so much for this I needed it

[@dcxxx403]

I'd like a video on frame advantage/frame disadvantage and the concept of safe shield pressure outside of just spacing disjointed attacks. Like how Roy is able to use the sweet spot of his sword while remaining safe

[@pendalink]

please keep the examples at the end! I love them

[@TheRealLiamHugh]

Best disadvantage guide I’ve ever seen

[@michaela.9360]

New subscriber here and I love your videos! They show things that I have never considered and I have been playing every smash game since it came out as a franchise. I always have trouble attacking shield and my opponents destroy me. It's a bad habit that I have from melee as I think my muscle memory takes over and I think I have safer options in this game.

[@grantmnelson]

i would appreciate a vid on maintaining advantage or getting off the ledge

[@jem7316]

@Faltroshish No he made a video on ledge trapping not getting off the ledge.

[@matthewpeck6964]

I believe the first 2 in the mind of was maintaining and escape from the corner

[@clovell3924]

Nice vid love the explanation

[@davidliu4608]

Really enjoyed this series. Would you ever make one about edge guarding?

[@Thomas-nz4si]

People leaving at the end of a video is extremely common, especially with commentated videos. Usually I can tell a video is getting close to the end because of the tone of the person talking as well as context before the person talking even references that the video is almost over, and I'm sure other viewers do this too. Its almost second nature for me to just move on to the next video the moment the person talking starts saying that its the end of the video.

[@themrbendewy]

These video’s are so good. These are even helping me, the worst smash player of all time

[@lrdalucardart]

I don't think u can beat my 1 year old worst Lucina, that couldn't get past 120.000GSP :D

[@kaloncpu57]

Coming from other fighting games has definitely made me hold shield any time I hit the ground out of disadvantage, and it has gotten me punished plenty of times, but I think the biggest reason has been that I do always JUST land. No amount of drifting helps me when my opponents can just push nothing and grab my landing (my biggest issue is definitely disadvantage vs Mario, Bowser, and sometimes Joker). The whole fast fall + nair thing sounds a lot like what I personally need to mix in

[@nurmanurmanurr2946]

Highly underrated stuff

[@subscribetopoppt1555]

I learned a lot by this video thanks, 👏

[@ProtoArc]

You make the best smash content imo man, this series has made me improve a lot! I still suck tho but not your fault haha

[@jbl271]

I think you should do a video where you talk about how to apply all the concepts in your previous videos to Lucina. It would be pretty cool since I main her and you seem to play her a lot.

[@pearshapedbrain]

Have you stopped making this series? D:

[@FerousFolly]

lol "nairdodge" that's basically what it's for against palu

[@BlackwingKakashi]

This is really great to know. Just wish it was easy to remember to do in the moment! Building habits in real games is hard!

[@Thelolzorbots]

One bit of advice: 4:36, when we just see a raw count of double jumps used we don't actually have a proper comparison to those numbers without knowing how many juggle situations there were. It is best to have the proportions displayed either instead or alongside the count. Because, you know, if the top level game only had 10 juggle situations total, and the mid level one had 32, then we'd actually find the top level players double jumped more, or if the top level game had 100 juggle situations then we could get a better gist of the shockingly low amount of double jumps, etc

[@splaturials9156]

Topnplayers know why they double jump not Just OH IM SCARED

[@saigesmart4167]

4:35 I get your point and I agree with it, but thought it should be pointed out that the dabuz match was on battlefield while the other match was on smashville. With the tri-plats id imagine that Heavily reduces the need for double jumps to get out of being juggled. Haven't watched the sets but I feel like this single comparison shouldnt prove that point

[@astra_plus377]

Hey Poppt1! Love your work on these videos, they're great! I have a question about one of your earlier videos. How do you know when it's the perfect situation in advantageous state to edge guard or to go for a ledge trap? I'm not sure if you would remember me, but I lost to your bumblebee skin Ness in the official Nintendo online Smash tournament they held earlier this year. I was named "Astra-"

[@squibl3s720]

I think this just solved all of my problems with Ultimate

[@shinobivice1800]

I keep directional dodging and getting punished for it. I never realized neutral dodge has sooooo much less recovery.

[@Crytt]

Awesome video! I feel like I learned a lot

[@UponRS]

Make a vid on adapting to non-familiar MUs or playing with or against projectiles please! Your stuff is really good.

[@jordanosburn5009]

Great video, taught me alot

[@devonmontes3143]

I'd be super interested in a comparing regions to each other. Like why Glutonny says Japan plays so patient, or why Socal plays so aggressive and what's the best playstyle.

[@elijahkarnouk7289]

Poppt1: mix up between aerials, airdodging, and double jumping Me: *stares at little mac* ahem yes great advice

[@trashpanda3172]

Dude practiced disadvantage ever since getting juggled by Leo's joker

[@marcrg529]

7:23 That explosion in the sky seems an attack

[@MrBreadisawesome]

Fantastic video