The Minecraft Mods Exposed for MALICIOUS Code...

[@TheMisterEpic]

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[@Tntman24]

Hey! Hows it going?

[@GMC_K15]

epic

[@johanngamer7342]

I was here before 600k

[@bennyl9228]

Wow, you covered every popular mod. Congratulations.

[@itsbulletproofbrohereofficial9]

My bro forgot to mention here that it has censored content too.

[@raynmanshorts9275]

Mojang: "It's not your job to moderate servers!" Pixelmon Devs: "You know, you're right. We should leave that to the server owne-" Mojang: "It's _my_ job!"

[@bubbapie123]

Lol I wouldn't be surprised if this was an actual conversation

[@Jagamingvoid]

​@@bubbapie123same, that exactly what mojang doing 1.19.1

[@randomguyonyoutube5875]

lmao

[@tim9680]

​@@bubbapie123 it is essentially what mojang said with their most recent updates

[@Mr-bw7yi]

_*Microsoft laughing in the background_

[@fyremage3075]

To clarify, a lot of mods (Pixelmon, Better Questing, Tinkers' Construct, and about 300 not mentioned here were targeted by a hacker group in 2022. They injected mods with malware that was dormant until the player did certain things, such as join a server, install or launch a non-forge client, die in singleplayer, and a few other different triggers. They disguised the malware activation by replicating an older, known issue of a mod, and somehow this went undetected for almost a full year. As of current, the mods affected by that attack are all 100% scrubbed of all possible malware.

[@PhonyFox_A]

Oh thank god I actually wanna make a server with that mod

[@trickstertwister612]

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[@Man0War_Loki]

Good I'm glad. I have several of those mods

[@macanimation2793]

my pixelmon and tinkers construct are the 1.16.5 versions from way before then. my awful pc hasnt got a good enough graphics card to run later versions of minecraft

[@IAmGodHimself777]

Which version or Pixelmon had it?

[@Unfixingalloy1UA1]

Ok pixelmon issuing a DMCA is beyond funny and the definition of irony

[@lexa2310]

I wonder what Nintendo would like to say to that. 😂

[@ArneAirforce]

Apple doesnt fall far from the tree lol

[@TheTripleSpike]

@@lexa2310 the old pixelmon mod got taken down by nintendo...

[@lexa2310]

@@TheTripleSpike And the second one took itself out.

[@leocreator3006]

​@@TheTripleSpikenot really the devs of old pixelmon mod heard about Nintendo's new law that was effecting them so they decided shutdown and abandoned their mod. I heard it somewhere on KZbin.

[@lillyie]

i can't believe you didnt include just enough dungeons. it was the first malware skyblock mod and kickstarted the era where you have to be careful which mods to install

[@Wizjeremy]

Fr my friend lost like 50 million coins back in 2020😭

[@TheMisterEpic]

Damn I didn't hear about that

[@plutonicattic7995]

@@TheMisterEpic time to retroactively add it

[@xyssxy]

​@@TheMisterEpicits kinda niche being a hypixel skyblock mod

[@ESTrashfire13]

​@@xyssxy It's not necessarily niche, when you consider it's a mod for the most played game on the most played server. And within said game, is a large subset of the gameplay itself. Just because you're not interested doesn't mean it's niche

[@GraySlicerAnimations]

Banning someone from your train mod for having autism it's just hilarious. Like bro, who do you think your player base is?

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

It is indeed ironic for a mod about trains to be anti-autism.

[@broscolotos]

You can see it in the video(6:19), the person who's ban mentioned autism was the person who added their own name to the ban list, not one of the "legit" bans. The person who made the video said "other people" but proceeded to show a screenshot from the same person. We'll take the criticism for the ban code in general, but that person's case is not one of the valid ones. While I am associated with Traincraft, and thus have a bias towards it, I still feel we were justified with most of our bans. All of them until the point that people started harassing us about the bans were from people who were stealing assets, causing massive drama in the community(porn bot raids on our Discord - note this was before Discord overall had a compromised account issue where they'd just do that, stuff like that), and overall bad actors. Nevertheless its all been removed for the sake of staying on Curseforge.

[@jamiekamihachi3135]

As a train nerd I assure you most of us probably aren’t neurotypical.

[@GregJumpscare]

@@jamiekamihachi3135 probably on a non-sarcastic note, i am autistic and i do not find trains that interesting.

[@raohkenator6431]

Lol

[@jonasalmstrom4986]

The mod creator for a train mod, banning people for autism must be peak irony

[@broscolotos]

(note that the person "banned for autism" was the same person who added their own name to the ban list. If you look at the screenshots you can see the same username across both, despite TheMisterEpic saying it was someone else.)

[@Hypertextz]

@@broscolotos yes, the mod creator is using autism as an insult. they're calling them stupid, essentially

[@broscolotos]

@@Hypertextz I'm aware; I know the dev personally. Just stating that it's not a completely random ban out of nowhere like the video made it out to be; the guy quite literally asked for it.

[@julianrogers8608]

​@@Hypertextzwho cares tho

[@KaiSub]

​@@julianrogers8608 who cares? People with autism care.

[@eshleyyy]

Okay, I didn't expect so many EXCEPTIONALLY popular mods to be inolved in that kind of drama. One would think they'd think twice.

[@nawtfouryew]

the amount of these crashes caused by petty disputes is crazy 😭

[@bitreaver7277]

lots of modding devs in minecraft have inflated egos, im barely surprised lmfao

[@audax117]

@@bitreaver7277 I mean, you gotta take into consideration that most Minecraft modders are, factually, autistic kids with anti-social behaviors. It's pretty common for those to throw temper tantrums over small things, I would see it all the time at school

[@XMysticHerox]

I really don't think your code you worked hard on being stolen is all that petty of a dispute. Modding is a lot of work and plagiarism is messed up in any case. Sure you can ask first. But I don't like how dismissive people are of plagiarism here either.

[@kanesaka]

Not surprising, this community is full of manchild & literal children

[@biogene9297]

@@XMysticHerox its a free product so it really shouldnt matter if its being plagiarized or not since the only thing being damaged is the ego of the devs.

[@Fafnir989]

The tinkers and Greg tech drama was the funniest thing ever

[@nikolaysitnikov796]

There's a lot of funny and interesting drama in Minecraft modding if you look. Forestry would have its beehives explode when another mod was present. The original developer of Forge made Forge because the previous standard mod loader author didn't want to work with him for no reason in particular. Said developer was then mutinied against 12-ish years later by all the other Forge developers (who then made NeoForge) because he wouldn't stop insulting optimization mods developers and acting immaturely. MCHeli included a way for server owners to take a screenshot of any player's screen. OreSpawn's developer's descent into conspiracy theory madness.

[@Dynamic_3000]

They must've had beef in their childhood because I would not be mad if a part of my mod had to be disabled

[@javiertorres1290]

Seriously like what made you the boss to be so petty at your dev and happy the boss got what he deserved

[@bannybruh]

anything to piss of the gregtech fanbase

[@x8c8r]

tech mod developers trying not to be egomaniacs challenge

[@codycallaway9057]

Fracturiser was the biggest Minecraft modding mishap that I've witnessed in real time. And yes I was extremely scared that I might of been effected

[@tobythedevil1874]

Might have*

[@fuseegelee]

Yeah, everyone was saying that you needed to run these programs to detect it, and that anyone who’s ever used mods was at risk, it was terrifying

[@arkura1812]

Meanwhile Lunar client when asked if they checked if they had been affected. jsut said Nah, we cant be affected at all. instead of just saying we checked if any of us were affected and none were. Lunar client is hella shifty.

[@drpro5762]

​@@arkura1812 lunar has fing ads on their launcher now

[@deerlyqueery]

​@@tobythedevil1874 *might've

[@ARDIZsq]

Mod Makers: "I'm gonna add something malicious to my mod(s) because I'm petty af." Players: "I'm upset about this and won't be playing your mods." Mod Makers: "I don't understand why people are mad and why my mods are being removed. >:( "

[@charlesm6819]

This basically isn't a virus video, it's a "mod devs having petty arguments" video

[@Nugget111uh1]

Malicious code ≠ virus. Malicious code does things the end user does not intend or want it to do, I.E. crash Minecraft or randomly show you images of the TF2 mercs but buff if your username is "Absolutely_Str8." It's called malicious code because it acts against the end user that installed it, rather than for. So yes, it's not so much a virus video as it is a devs have petty arguments video, but the point of the video is how the devs used their mods to attack and annoy players.

[@charlesm6819]

@@Nugget111uh1 I know, but usually when you think of malicious code you think of a virus. This is just a bunch of petty devs

[@Nugget111uh1]

@@charlesm6819 myeh, true. Still though, malicious code is malicious code (but when it randomly shows you images of the TF2 mercs if your username is "Absolutely_Str8" then it's just funny code).

[@sourkefir]

​@@Nugget111uh1WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MENTION THE MERCS

[@Nugget111uh1]

@@sourkefir there was another reply where I added to the joke but YT mods clearly do not have the funny™

[@Pr0fessorB1ble]

the gregtech and tinkers construct beef was so funny

[@owerpovered3330]

Yeah, TiC dev was salty and got what he deserved tbh

[@alespic]

@@owerpovered3330 while true, Gregorious is far from being a good person and has had his fair share of petty moments and other behaviours.

[@Nachiebree]

don't forget the leather boots oredictionary being turned into dear_greggy_greg_please_do_kindly_stuff_a_sock_in_it

[@ScareSans]

Petty and mildly inconvenient for players, but at least I don't think it ever became outright malicious. Both sides were annoying and kind of deserved it, but at least it just ended with some new config options and a "Pumpkin of Shame" gag.

[@Hexagonaldonut]

@@alespic I'm pretty sure this was not, in fact, the first or last time Gregorious had a spat with another modder like that. He never really had the greatest attitude when it came to the idea of GregTech coexisting with other mods besides IC2. A lot of his comments from the time are very telling of his attitude- namely that he felt HIS image of balance was the only correct one.

[@thecrimsoncreep]

Don't forget the time the Orespawn and Godzilla mods were hard-coded to despawn any mobs that fought each other due to online arguments.

[@TheAmazingHerosquad]

TL:DR about the pixelmon. Allowed the devs of the mod to blacklist servers and players. Claimed it was an attempt to prevent abuse and cheating. It's no longer in the mod.

[@SubtitleXD]

@@rickycool.it’s a tldr for a reason

[@dantepizza6310]

TL;DW*

[@minecraftexpertstudios7368]

Didn't Nintendo go after Pixelmon?

[@schwingedeshaehers]

thanks

[@zata4ul]

@SubtitleXD ok, but what's the point in one when it literally doesn't add nor really shortens anything when the segment is short already? I'd understand if the whole video was about Pixelmon only, but it's literally a segment shorter than 1,5 minutes

[@Gogettemblue]

And this is why cobblemon is the new peak Pokémon mod

[@lugiamastero13]

Agreed just waiting for them to update to 1.21.1 now lol

[@Puszek_KittyCat]

Boy do i have news for you​@@lugiamastero13

[@phommonteros]

​@@lugiamastero13 update is out and it's 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@zakridewood5719]

I got confused seeing tinkers construct in here but its just a argument between two mod devs

[@kennyholmes5196]

That's because it was Gregtech that added the malware specifically targeting Tinker's Construct's dev.

[@Lumis_The_Lucario]

​@@kennyholmes5196yeah saw some other pepole in a thread calling tinkers construct dev overreacting when im sorry bit this whole thing started cause he put in 1 WARNING to change a setting of the other players mod due to a bug, and also who was the one runnimg code to make sure itemes had the right naming scheme no matter what. Feels like to me gregtech dev was "YOU CHANGE FOR ME AND WHAT I WANT NO COMPROMISE ITS ME ME ME"

[@GeflGabe]

Funnily enough, mod blacklist wars like corails aren't the first time it's happened. Classic Doom mods had a similar incident between a map mod and project brutality. Sometimes, mod authors do be having some beef.

[@RationalFunction]

It's more of a "some mods ruin themselves if they detect brutal doom" thing.

[@MegaRazorback]

@@RationalFunction There's a Doom mod that basically makes Brutal Doom spawn a literal mob of Revenants to kill Doomguy if Brutal Doom sees it being used with it (not going to mention the mod in question though, if you know you know and if you don't then its for the best).

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Sometimes is more like everytime. This happened even with sex mods in Skyrim

[@betsyrocketram]

The revenant mod the person above me mentioned is Hdoom for those curious.

[@RationalFunction]

@guyrocketram9698 yes, other mods (btw HDoom is NSFW) do the same thing

[@gomba65]

As someone who was on the Traincraft team (just artist status on the side lines) when all of that went down, theres a lot more that had happened. Much of the information presented is only partial to the full scope of the actions taken those days. Yes, Eternals actions where not the best at all, but I will say the gentleman Paul that was always referenced in those screenshots is no saint. He was effectively banned himself from Curseforge and github after the investigations from the platforms. The mod was reinstated after a Curseforge representative had come to our aid. I do encourage viewers to look deeper if desired.

[@SmartGuy-Tech]

The fact that it is so hard to detect viruses in jar files, means that it’s so hard to differentiate the good from the bad!

[@DavisPetersen-k7u]

Use linux buddy.

[@ihavestds394]

​@@DavisPetersen-k7uhow would that change anything?

[@1.0]

​@@DavisPetersen-k7ulinux won't save you from java data grabbers etc.

[@TheSillyHaxor]

​@@DavisPetersen-k7uLinux user trying to not tell someone to use linux challenge impossible

[@LeKosmikKaktus]

@@DavisPetersen-k7u bruhh

[@Omega7321]

Please change the thumbnail to highlight the fact this that this was a past incident, it could harm the reputation of modern Pixelmon forks for people who don’t care to research and take things at face value 🙏

[@_Jotop]

Thats exactly what i thought It was, exposing Pixelmon as a vírus or something, Holy clickbait

[@suncat530]

current thumbnail says "11 years ago" on the comment

[@darkdest6664]

yeah i saw the thumbnail and got scared for a sec

[@FevilDraws]

thank you for clearing that up, had a heart attack thinkin it was recent at first but now ya pointed it out i can rest easy knowing im fine

[@internetwizard4922]

Is Pixelmon in the hands of other developers now? Short of a dev change I don't think I'd ever trust them to not try and implement it again

[@ForeverLaxx]

Nerds powerless in their personal lives going on a powertrip the moment they get an ounce of control/authority is a tale as old as time.

[@randomboy2004]

TBH im fine with petty crashed mods drama, i rather chose two dev making funny chat saying incompatible to x, harmless joke with "pumpkin of shame" than a mods that have complex system to steal more thousands of people personal information and expand it like a virus

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

Remember, the first one to get caught doing this was the Forestry mod. Though that was mostly because he wasn't hiding it

[@notactuallyphobic]

I remember Fractureiser. I was incredibly afraid of being hacked, but I never was, thankfully :)

[@plighting_engineerd]

Sameee

[@eliescobis9922]

the guy who made it got away with people money and accounts lmao

[@MinecraftJE25]

I hate being hacked

[@Thewaterspirit57]

I still have no idea if my system was affected by Fracturizer 💀 like…. Maybe it wasn’t? Cuz I’m sure I didn’t download or play any mods during that attack, since my system was only really good at playing older versions. 1.18 really tested the power of people’s machines with how big the worlds in game were. So I just kept to 1.16 mods for the time.

[@TheManInTheMirrorVT]

In regards to the Gregtech story: Why would you even care how people play your modpack? If they really dont want people using exploits or cheating then why not disable Creative mode since it seems to bug them so much. Weird how someone can get that ticked off by how people on the internet play their games

[@lukemini9021]

it affects multiplayer servers

[@TheManInTheMirrorVT]

@ yeah so? Its up to the people if they want to use the exploit or not right? Just straight up being petty like that doesn't sound right to me, but then again, I've never played gregtech

[@lcdignited]

@@TheManInTheMirrorVTprobably prestige, gregtech is known to be a hard mod, and has the hardest modpack centered around it an exploit which caused duping would probably be harming to its rep

[@gdmango783]

@@lcdignited I mean, this was before GTNH even existed and it's just really petty :D

[@godminnette2]

​@@TheManInTheMirrorVTlarge servers probably don't want their players to have infinite duplication.

[@Pringles1]

As a mod dev, i expected this video to have a lot of misinformation but it is surprisingly accurate

[@Wolf_Knight62]

Fun fact... the same stuff is happening rn with Half Life 2 modding community.

[@user-ow2rh3is1j]

The sun is leaking

[@durpanda123]

Imagine thinking one guy stealing a buit of code from your mod justifies breaking your mod with malicious code for your entire userbase, what a lunatic that Corail guy is. Oh well, always hated that mod anyway.

[@venomx7264]

oh yeah he’s crazy for that like who the fuck dose something like that he destroyed he’s mod for a stupid reason 😂

[@minecraftexpertstudios7368]

Yea, It's so common in packs. I sometimes wish it had a way to make the other random stuff not be available, and just have the tombstone.

[@artemis.nnnnnbbbbb]

while it is illegal (if it's closed source which seems to be the case), this just too much drama, just send the dev a note to remove it and only if the other dev refuses then u can sue them(u can just start by suing them but that's still a d*CK move)

[@Parciwal_Gaming]

I mean, if you know anything about coding, you know that copying code isn't really a rarity, and if it is on github (which it sounded like) for everyone to look at, you don't really have grounds to object.

[@LezChap]

@@Parciwal_Gaming You DO have grounds to object...just because you post something doesn't mean you lose the rights to how it's used. But he decided to ignore the proper, socially acceptable methods of dealing with it, and go unibomber with his code instead.

[@testerwulf3357]

I remember that curseforge attack!! I joined the server upon hearing about it and there was SO MANY in chat freaking out..the mods were extremely unprofessional 😒 they kept trying to gaslight everyone into thinking there was no breach, no malware, that nothing was happening. One in particular was making the most fuss trying to pretend it wasn’t happening but I don’t remember their username. The curseforge team was asleep, yes ALL of them, they didn’t help at ALL; by the time they came on the community already made like documentation on how to test your computer for it, what time to be wary of (if you used this list of mods or modpacks in _ days you should check your computer), and how to get rid of it. We literally had ALL the information including where it likely started (the info you gave) and photos of what the malwear code looked like! Gotta give the community a hand for how they dealt with it and at a decent speed 👏

[@BetaDude40]

Speaking as a moderator for a different service, moderators in any big community are more about damage control rather than helping people. It's easy to get into the mindset of complacency when you don't expect malware of such a frightening degree to affect your service. Hopefully that was a big wakeup call for them

[@lazyshadow5027]

Crashing the game just because someone used your particle system and then deleting it after you get called out for it is some next level gatekeeping

[@tehbeard]

Oh god, i remember gregs asshattery towards the rest of the community and his "my way or the highway approach." Glad to see he seems to have stepped back, and someone else is handling gregtech now how it shouldve been, as a total conversion mod rather than one you slap into a modpack

[@gdmango783]

Greg is still developing GT6, but other forks like GT5 Unofficial (GTNH) and GTCEu are the most popular

[@MegaO2Jammer]

you forgot sbom_xela who made Alex Mobs and Ice and Fire, they made their library mod (Citadel) constantly download the loud rickroll video on startup on one April Fools Day and told someone to off themselves when they complained about it on their github

[@changsiah2]

okay that's a little funny

[@minecraftexpertstudios7368]

Interesting. The only April fools thing I saw with citadel was one that had you play Tetris, but the Tetrominos were made of random blocks

[@drpro5762]

Wait what?

[@eastpast7743]

but thats funny

[@Lascarys]

lmao

[@toasty9670]

holy shit as soon as you said corail tombstone i got nervous that it had like information-stealing code and that i was just cooked

[@nullieee]

i thought this video was gonna be full of zero day exploits and whatnot then i click on it and its a bunch of "Developer X banned a couple of players from using their mod because of a power trip"

[@RabidRango]

@@nullieee the last 3 are about actual malware

[@BlueShadow7777]

Yeah, I have it because of the Rougelike Adventures and Dungeons modpack and I was like ????????????

[@huysuh]

@@nullieeeyeah this video ngl is just a waste of time

[@thefalloutlord]

All of them are malware and are dangerous

[@theepicslayer7sss101]

i thought Forestery was the only time it happened where if it detected it was in a modpack, it would spam the map with bees...

[@lourila]

Lmao this sound way more funny then crash 😂😂😂

[@drpro5762]

That's hilarious, which mods would cause that

[@LibraritheWizardOfficial]

You forgot the part where the Forestry beehives exploded so massively that it would kill save files/servers with dropped blocks

[@earxnim]

the gregtech and tinkersconstruct one was actually quite funny ngl, kinda like siblings fighting if yk what I mean

[@platinumaether8198]

6:31 THAT explains why never updated to 1.12.2 currently or even 5 years ago… you don’t understand how much I wanted this mod

[@Nobody_is_here_right_now]

These devs are so petty with such small beefs

[@huysuh]

Go code a extensive high quality mod and tell me how happy you’d be if some kid took ur code without credit.

[@neztech.]

@@huysuh idk the gregtech thing was pretty stupid even in hindsight. I don't understand why greg thinks his balance should forcefully apply to other mods when the other simply generates a message warning about a bug he himself had created.

[@nikolaysitnikov796]

​@@neztech.Honestly, Tinker's Construct is probably to blame for that "bug". Tinker's Construct added a feature where a tool with Auto-Smelt and Fortune combined would apply the Fortune if the smelted item wasn't a block (allowing you to get more than one charcoal per log or more than one ingot per iron ore if you combined the two enchantments - a pretty nice and balanced feature, in my opinion.) GregTech added a recipe allowing a player to smelt an iron block into 9 ingots because it had a pattern where every item made out of a metal could be smelted to recycle it into ingots and metal blocks fell into that category. The result was that breaking an iron block with Auto-Smelt & Fortune would yield 9 *or more* iron ingots. The argument about who should change their feature and fix the "bug" is what caused the hostility.

[@myceliuh]

@@nikolaysitnikov796 imo those just sound like two mods that are incompatible on the conceptual level. and greg's sounds kind of busted to me. you dont even get 1:1 on items like logs into wood.

[@XMysticHerox]

Mod development takes a ton of work. I don't think people who aren't devs really get just how much. So no not really small beef imo. That said yes some people develop a very overinflated ego when their shit gets popular. But still this video seems a bit dismissive of people just stealing code. That is really not cool and even illegal. I still think you should ask for either credit or them removing it first but I certainly get being annoyed at plagiarism.

[@hamzamotara4304]

As a programmer, that thumbnail killed me. "malware.exe" XD

[@Platinum_XYZ]

hahaha. yeah ikr? both the fact that it'd be ".jar" for mods, rather than ".exe". and also the fact that real malware probably wouldn't pick such a telling title lol

[@TheSharkKing45]

As a member of one of the mods community, the stuff for traincraft happened years ago if memory serves and largely isn't a concern anymore

[@weirdbraxton3971]

Traincraft developer was a professional hater

[@minecraftexpertstudios7368]

I have never had the fortune (or misfortune) of trying that mod. Is it good?

[@fluffydoggo]

​@@minecraftexpertstudios7368 yeah it was pretty good from what I've played back in 1.7.10 and 1.12.2

[@davidmolin8944]

@@minecraftexpertstudios7368 i personally had a blast with it back in the 1.6 days when it was my main mod, since then i've moved onto immersive engineering and immersive railroading mainly due to the more realistic trains and the overall better animations, although not as nostalgic as throwing down a tier 1 table and crafting a shay for the first time thats for sure lol

[@moltenking2362]

I agree. I've never seen such a disrespectful person like them. I feel so sorry for Paul Taylor.

[@minecraftexpertstudios7368]

@davidmolin8944 Ah, I see. The only trains I've ever messed with are Create's trains, so I hadn't checked out any other trains ingame.

[@diamondmasterandwillythecat]

3 of my friends and I were playing on one of their worlds and the mods we were using contained windows borderless. Windows defender instantly caught the malware while my friends premium antivirals didn't. Those 3 friends had to change their passwords while I told them "i told you so"

[@labmasterx5599]

It may have been a false positive, any modern viruses would have been tested using the most popular AV, including Windows Defender

[@ChocoRainbowCorn]

@@labmasterx5599 People sometimes forget how to think. It's nothing new.

[@diamondmasterandwillythecat]

@labmasterx5599 the mod in question is literally in this video...

[@thesun5275]

Now and days windows defender is actually worthy to be someone's main anti-virus and most talk otherwise is typically just attempted advertisements. Windows puts a ton of money into their cyber security because of how massive they are.

[@labmasterx5599]

@@thesun5275 yup, and anyone can use it to test their own virus to see if gets found or not for free

[@Same_old_rory]

Can't blame corail really because his code was used without permission however the way it was handled is very childish and egotistical but im glad the situation was sorted out

[@STEVE_AhPiss]

6:10 is very "the sun is leaking" indeed

[@vidal9747]

1:11 It would be nice if flatpak sandboxing evolved further to prevent this type of stuff. I use flatpaks and just hope the userbase is small enough that malware developers don't care about us enough. The launcher supposedly can't access anything outside its directory.

[@noarcc]

There were multiple developers of Fractureiser. My friend being one of them. He explained it how it kinda worked and also showed me how easy it was to implement into any mod/plugin being only 10 lines long for the loader.

[@toomanydum4084]

y'all still friends? (and tbh i am curious about the why of it)

[@TD_Heather4TW]

Pixelmon's dramas should warrant its own video.

[@TheMisterEpic]

Maybe 👀

[@TD_Heather4TW]

@TheMisterEpic LET'S FREAKING GOOOOOOOO!

[@slightlyuncomfortable]

The popular reforged server i used via ATLauncher shit the bed a year or two ago bc the server owner went on an antivax mental break of some kind after his mod team quit after he demanded they give him their IRL IDENTIFICATION to prove they were 'trustworthy''

[@slightlyuncomfortable]

I just checked the website and its shut down. I don't even know if the server is online anymore or if they rebranded.

[@cannon9009]

Spoilers: Thumbnail references an incident in 2013. Do not worry about your current install of Pixelmon. However, do consider switching to Cobblemon instead for a more satisfying (and drama-less) experience 😉

[@flame7346]

10:10 until nintendo drew the legal sword on them at least

[@Mera_Naam_Totaa-g4m]

As a Tlauncher player I dont give a damn I'm already hacked XD

[@saiv46]

Get Legacy Launcher instead

[@JuanGamer0202]

​@@saiv46 frrrrrrrr

[@defintlynoob4263]

why do u want more people to sell ur information

[@bubbapie123]

Just spend the $30 on normal Minecraft

[@ag4p]

literally just use prismlauncher with the script that lets you play with no account wtf is wrong with you

[@Albatroszzz]

I got the last virus on my computer. The computer would not run like usual, and always open Minecraft and curse forge even when I first stopped them both as well as stopping them from running on startup. The mods worked, but over the course of about a week my computer started slowing down and updates stopped running. I logged onto my browser and was logged out of all of my accounts on discord, yt, twitch, and other socials, while I couldn’t log back in no matter how many times I tried. I let my computer just sit for a while and it seemed to be better, but after another week the computer wouldn’t even run, being stuck on the startup screen. I opened up the computer to check the hardware, and noticing that it had zero problem with the memory and all other components, just ended up taking it apart. I now have a new computer and am never using curseforge again.

sounds like it entered the kernel level. If so, this is more destructive than first imagined.

[@Albatroszzz]

Yes I would also like to add that I spend very little time on my computer browser and on the web in general, only visiting it to install curseforge and Minecraft mods

[@fawzanfawzi9993]

So all the drama happens because the devs have the maturity of a 12 years old and be a dick towards specific player or mod developer.

[@crimson3274]

Im with tinker on this one because greg escalated it to crashing the game. If any modder decides to crash your game for using other mods tham his he should be removed from curse forge because its literally harmful content.

[@therealyojames]

0:41 GREENPATH :D

[@branderst]

nice, hollow knight music

[@tibilore2]

Silksong comes out tomorrow trust fr.

[@maybenations]

Posting intentional malware should have no-strike policy. As in, the person gets banned from the modrepository, and the mod gets "freed" for anyone to fork and take over. (Towards anyone screeching about copyright issues, intentionally spreading malware is a criminal offence, no matter how many "We take no responsibility etc." lines are put in a ToS)

[@evrenisprettyuniversal]

They absolutely should be banned. But lol, the mod shouldn't get "taken over by anyone". It's still the creator's effort/work no matter how bad of a person they are... Just like how Notch is still the original creator of Minecraft despite turning out to be a racist douche. You know what a such proposal results in however? Making it hard to document the community or any events regarding to such mods, people getting falsely accused of "having worked on malware before" by petty competitors, etc. The bigger a community is, the less you can apply such ways. Also that's not even how copyright works lol

[@maybenations]

They absolutely *should* be taken over. It's the difference between keeping the id and address and switching the caretaker, or waiting for someone to reupload the mod while breaking all links and dependencies. Any framework that would prohibit modyfing the mods would also prohibit their existence without explicit personal allowance of the original work owner (not author). Copyright is cancer already, but if laws were made up to retards like you, mods wouldn't exist in the first place.

[@kabob0077]

Wanna know something funny? Almost the exact same thing in the first story happened in the Starsector community, some mod dev actually made their mod crash the game if they were run with certain mods because the devs didn't like them.

[@PressA2Die]

Do you still get banned on reddit if you even mention the existence of one of the mods in question?

[@SolstaceWinters]

That's a real shame regarding Tinker's Construct, my friends and I loved that mod to bits. Never heard of GregTech though. We were big on a "Mech and Magick" style of custom modpacks we'd curate ourselves. So a bit of Thermal Expansion, Thaumcraft, Tinkers, Applied Energistics, things like that. A few magic mods, dimension mods, and technical mods, and a few farming or building mods... just a little bit of everything for everyone. But one thing we *_ALL ALWAYS LOVED_* was Tinker's. It was fun to create custom tools that matched our aesthetics. Was a lot of fun. From the sound of things, Tinker's creator was largely being the better man - They initially made a harmless notification and provided a simple solution to a problem, whereas the Greg mod creator went and lashed out with a passive aggressive Wall-o'-Text. TiC ended up calling for a ceasefire, admitting they were being petty and harming both their communities and the mods' QoL... though he definitely slipped up by putting in the fixes again afterwards. However the Greg mod guy did lash out and make his mod unplayable for TiC's creator, whereas TiC's simply just made his changes optional. There's a lot going on that I wasn't present for, of course. So I don't have the broiling blood over the issue. I'm sure there's a lot of nuance that I don't understand that those in the trenches back then do. I just miss my cool forge and smithy mod. The current replacements that have taken up the mantle just don't.... scratch that itch the same way. Then again, since malicious mods have become a thing in recent years... I've just stuck to vanilla game. I think the most "modded" part of my game is Vanilla Tweaks resource packs. And hopefully they don't up and corrupt my game. Xisumavoid and the Hermitcraft wouldn't turn out to be bad eggs....right?

[@bobolobocus333]

Hermits have, but HC appears to throw them out before they can rot others.

[@gobliino]

if malware could be in a resource pack, color me impressed

[@thefalloutlord]

Have you SEEN the hermits? NONE OF THEM ARE GOOD

[@eliascastanon3892]

​@@thefalloutlordliterally only 2 of them where bad, iamsp00n from season 1 and 2 and iskall. And hermitcraft took it so professionaly and kicked them out inmediately. Hermitcraft is safe since their principles are having good people and if another one ends up being bad which i doubt could happen will just get kicked out

[@generalborks8986]

@@eliascastanon3892 what happened with iskall? I thought he just didn't have time for HC sense he was making that mod.

[@adullpencil]

God, this is like a horror story for anyone who plays modded Minecraft. I'm constantly checking my mods to see if I have any of those in my packs.

[@DivineJudgement.]

I'm probably not the only one to mention this but I'm surprised you haven't mentioned OreSpawn

[@johnmmmmmm]

6:47 this is also happened on one half life 2 mod called overcharged, supposed to make hl2 realistic, but in the 2.0 release, the developer banned noclick, red hazard, and the infamous guy because they were talking trash about them, when they didn’t hear “do not harass the devs” they used steam ids to ban them, which is against the mod rules. The mod quickly got wiped. You can still find it in moddb, but you can’t download it. THE SUN IS LEAKING.

[@ImFangzBro]

Honestly, I feel bad about Funwayguy. Dude didn't even get a CHANCE to defend himself.

[@TheSaltyApollo]

4:53 MrEpic did indeed agree with the but jokes.

[@Insatiable-saucy]

Things to never ask -a women her age -a male his salary -a war thunder player for proof -a minecraft dev to stop it

[@reneablackheart9563]

a while back i kind of wanted to write a nematode that would do the opposite of fracturizer and, while spreading itself to other jars, would overwrite any instance of fracturizer it found with itself. i was going to call it "fixturizer." i decided not to do it though because i am very lazy and if i messed up it would probably make the problem worse also i barely passed my computer science class in high school so im probably not the most qualified for that. Aside from overwriting fracturizer the program would do absolutely nothing

[@kennyholmes5196]

A budding white-hat in the making, you are. You may have a future in the pen-tester division of the security business.

[@reneablackheart9563]

@@kennyholmes5196 nah im too lazy for that. i made the worlds ugliest website one time though

[@kaironst2969]

​@@reneablackheart9563this attitude won't get you anywhere. Don't give up on things because "you're lazy" you can can do anything within reason if you put your mind to it

[@reneablackheart9563]

@@kaironst2969 fair. i dont know why im like this

[@BetaDude40]

While I appreciate the determination, you really have to be careful making counterworms and stuff like that, as like you said they do indeed have a habit of making the problem worse. The most widespread viruses today are actually pretty innocent and don't do anything but take up space on disk. In general it's not ethical to put stuff on someone's computer you don't want, but since multi-billion dollar tech firms get to do this all the time as "totally necessary feature bloat," maybe I'm just being a stick in the mid

[@FlareTheNon]

This really makes me wonder how many popular mods have that malware still, and how much longer it will be fighting to stick around

[@Niflheim_07]

A lot of people are probably gonna switch to Cobblemon, if not already.

[@alexblu9223]

Pixelmon is still bigger in every way, so nah

[@Kawaiitwo]

@@alexblu9223 I, for one, am glad I made the switch to Cobblemon. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Catwithpaintbrush]

​@@alexblu9223 And cobblemon is better in every single way outside popularity.

[@poppyseed799]

The pixelmon thing is old news. I mean I’ve already switched to cobblemon for unrelated reasons of which there are plenty, but it’s certainly NOT 11 year old code that made me do it lol.

[@Niflheim_07]

Even just *hearing* that Pixelmon *had* a virus will turn people away.

[@Davedave000]

It's crazy how many of these devs throw a hissy fit over some trivial shit and just turn their mods into viruses on a whim.

[@user-ud6mq6gz6v]

My fav thing since the last ~3 or so years is waking up on the weekend to a notif that you posted a video B]

[@ShneekeyTheLost]

I'm surprised you didn't touch on the Forestry drama with Technic. Basically, the author was pissed that Technic included the mod in their pack without asking him first, and when he asked them to remove it they declined to acquiesces to his request. His response was then to update code that the bee hives from his mod would explode with the force of a CASUC Reactor if it saw that the mod directory it was in was in a pack with Technic in the name. Needless to say, this was shortly removed, but yea... that happened.

[@sepiar7682]

Ayyy i remember seeing the Landmasters drama and the Fracturiser attack happening live, fun times :D

[@ConstantBit9]

It seems PlusTiC did the whole "ban users the Dev doesn't like" before Half-Life 2 Overcharged lmao

[@Tallion_of_Gondor]

9:45 ight this was mostly funny ngl, gregtech def in tbe wrong tho for crashing things

[@gdmango783]

Lil' bit of trolling

[@dunethewanderer8944]

Legitimately surprising this vid came out so close to a Half-Life 2 mod developer Steam ID-banning critics of the mod's previous version that got the mod taken down from all platforms, exactly like some of these mods. "The sun is leaking."

[@botherednickel5930]

I was just looking at Corail Tombstone for my modpack but didn't want it. Who knew the history!

[@groudonmario]

Newer versions are so bloated with annoying mechanics

[@neonowlgery]

Oh I definitely remember getting affected by Skyrage once... The whole server was ducked, and our Pterodactyl even got hacked.

[@LunarPurin]

Love the Hollow Knight music but I feel the audio mixing was a bit off. It's a bit hard to hear you at times ^^; Haven't noticed this being an issue before though

[@PerpetuusTenebris]

TheMisterEpic failing to properly pronounce the "Construct" in Tinker's Construct will never get old 😂😂

[@zalfredo325]

the hollowknight music caught me off guard, what a pleasant melody :)

[@insidiousindigoARCHIVE]

W game

[@Another_Creater_Oficial]

"The sun is leaking" incident ahh Mods💀💀💀

[@awildscrub]

These guys are making mods for the community for practically nothing in return, essentially charity... then how can they be so insufferable..?

[@gyroninjamodder]

The opposite can be true here. The community has unrealistic expectations over something they are being given for free. It would be one thing if they were paying customers but they make demands on how things should work despite contributing nothing.

[@marcel8974]

@@gyroninjamodder its sad how toxic the minecraft community can be.

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

@@gyroninjamodder Which drama here was the community fault? Just because something is free it can do anything they want? Free2play games included?

[@gyroninjamodder]

@@erichdegurechaff9515 For example the first one. People got mad at the developer for enforcing his copyright. People would rather pretend copyright doesn't exist and think that code can be used freely just because his mod was $0.

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

@@gyroninjamodder People got mad, but none of this is community fault. Another modder stole the code, the community got mad with the modder reaction to another modder.

[@darkwarrior03352]

The Tinker's Construct and GregTech one was hilarious! Just two coders stepping on each others' feet, and anime angry symbols and electricity flowing in between their eyes. And proceeding to write code in their mods that would mildly and passive-aggressively annoy the other - all while trying not to step too close to the sun in front of the CurseForge devs.

[@syberfang7890]

Can I mention LunaPixel and their petty LUNA mod? They claim it is integral for their packs to work, no it isn't, you can disable it and everything runs fine. What LUNA does is crash your instance if it has mod that LunaPixel disliked.

[@Jade_TheCat]

Kinda surprised you didn't mention the OG malicious mod code. Forestry back in the day added code to refuse to run when installed in a Technic modpack because Technicpack devs violated the license of the mod, distributing it without permission. This led to Tekkit removing it and a couple other mods.

[@ambassadorofbadtaste]

Traincraft really was a trainwreck of a silly

[@Udczinho]

6:43 LMFAO imagine downloading a train mod and getting hit by **YOU WILL PAY FOR ALL ETERNITY** when opening the game

[@michaelzoller5303]

8:30 Where's your source for a "10 hour argument" when the TiCon dev states in the very next screenshot that they had never talked to the other dev?

[@MooseShower]

That’s hearsay. People pretend they never talk to others all the time

[@jeshirekitenkatt1212]

surprised you didn't bring up the curseforge outbreak similar to skyrage targeting plugins. not that long ago there was a virus that would specifically targeting every .jar file on one's pc, meaning that when mod creators compiled and released their own jars, they would unknowingly be spreading the infection. heinous stuff.

[@premiercaj]

Every single hypixel Skyblock mod ever

[@moltenking2362]

Agreed. Those "mods" I see more that it is just a hack/cheat since it doesn't do much in adding new things. Yet most of that player base are blind sheep thinking it's safe when it clearly isn't.

[@Colamityyy]

@@moltenking2362are you braindead?

[@VixYW]

The irony of Mojang saying Pixelmon devs shouldn't have control over servers just to do the exact same thing years later. Someone should've spammed Mojangs' contact channels with a screenshot of the message.

[@jonathancampbell6776]

honestly, this just makes me realize how pathetically petty minecraft mod makers are💀 most of these stories genuinely gave me second hand embarrassment LOLLLL

[@gdmango783]

You simply don't get it it's important stuff man 🤦‍♀️

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Its not just Minecraft. You think this is pathetic, the same drama of blocking the game happened with sex mods in Skyrim...

[@rogankane6901]

If you think this is pathetic, Wait till you hear about Starsector

[@spazjackrabbit61]

​@@erichdegurechaff9515also recently with half-life 2 modding community

[@erie3936]

Let's not forget that time where Forestry Crashed on Technic launcher. Tgat one was hilarious

[@marshallhoyt]

Ah buddy, if you think any of these are bad, let me tell you the story of Better Than Wolves sometime...

[@MoGumbo_]

I swear, pettiness and large egos are the backbone to any modding scene lol

[@nil.11]

As always a basically perfect video.

[@thatoneoctopus7494]

Lmao the scrap between Tconstruct and Greg could be likened to a pissing contest

[@jhawkdx4000]

Oh man, I thought Phobos would've been on this list. Although, that was a hack client.

[@Chyguy]

8:17 what is that dragon from? looks very cool

[@PaxTheCat]

Banning someone because of a disorder is crazy. What has autism to the situation? I heard about cases of ruining mod code in other games. The Sims had a drama, where a patreon modder damaged their files so people wouldnt steal/repost the mods. It sadly affected the honest payers too. There were even slurs in the code or files

[@medom3710]

Mod developers beefing because of the compatibility between their mods is the funniest shit I've ever seen.