The Misadventures of Halo Infinite's Development

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Craig

[@Butter_Warrior99]

I think somebody changed the channel name.

[@hawkevick9184]

See you using halo footage from time to time.

[@PepeCucumber]

agree

[@NamelessGamer29]

I’m just waiting in anticipation for the inevitable 300GB weekly patches for this game when it launches.

[@T.h.w.T]

God I hope not

[@RockTundra8515]

Oh, and the 500 gb day 1 patch

[@MrNuclearz]

That's gonna be rough on the Series S's base storage space.

[@FumoPliskin]

Funnily enough it's going to only require 50GB something of which Activision needs to learn with Call of Duty... I think Modern Warfare takes up 250gb on my Xbox lol.

[@ACLDead]

I think at that point I'll probably give up once and for all, once I reach that 20 year milestone of some great classic games and some faith I shouldnt of had for 8 years

[@haroldtchicken5871]

"Spiritual reboot" basically just means they want you to forget how badly the last one failed

[@RomeHam]

*last two

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@RomeHam last four* don’t forget MCC’s horrible launch and even CEA’s giant “meh.”

[@RomeHam]

@@Slender_Man_186 good point

[@CRISNCHIPS12398]

That and going free to play. The player base has dwindled so hard with Halo 4 and 5 that it has really come to this, actually sad. Get ready for just micro transactions out the ass, cheaters everywhere and “we’ll fix it next season!”

[@102allenwalker]

@@RomeHam nah halo 4 was fun

[@HaloFollower-Ron]

Wonderful video! You raised a lotta great points, and recaps of things that have been shadowed by the hype, understandably. 343 really is facing an uphill battle

[@elbarto6668]

*Why not just burn everything down and immediately develop from scratch with developers like **#MachineGames**?* ...

[@greasegod4818x]

is that a guy who follows halo?

[@letsoveranalyze2135]

With a budget of over $200 million, 6 years of development, and the help of multiple other studios, it was nothing but a downhill battle. And they’re still failing to meet the most basic of expectations.

[@bankaispirits]

@@letsoveranalyze2135 yeah, hopefully they just make 343 a regular dev with a new IP and take the halo franchise tf away from them 💀

[@ginopippofrebooter-ilrinne2881]

@@letsoveranalyze2135 Well, considering what Bungie by themselves as a single studio can do... Yeah...

[@DialE4Eggs]

If you start the game at 3AM and whisper “Captain K’nuckles” into your console Flapjack is unlocked as a playable character

[@LazyLoonz]

wtf lol

[@impendio]

I’ve never played a halo game nor owned an xbox yet still watched this whole thing just for you, Tyler.

[@suspecm6316]

Tyler is love, Tyler is life

[@TheSkypetube]

I still get emails to beta test even tough I only signed up the first time

[@Doc51499]

They’re all on steam, go pick them up

[@jackcolson4745]

Go get the mcc right now. Please. Help a dying franchise while you're at it. If halo gets revived, then you can officially say you were a fan before infinite got popular. If it sucks and it fails, well, sorry we dragged you with us. Mcc is $40 on steam and Xbox. It frequently goes on sale for half off. Pretty much worth it if you consider it's 5 major titles for the price of 2/3rds of one.

[@Abel-Alvarez]

You aren't missing much NOWADAYS. Back in 2001-2008 this title had weight to it, not anymore though. But it's still worth trying out the Master Chief Collection just for old times sake. I recommend it (especially Halo CE,2,3,ODST, and even Reach).

[@moloney0218]

Finally someone said what I've been thinking, if infinite is still gonna be released bare bones a whole year late, it really makes you wonder what pile of garbage they were planning on giving us...

[@gottaproxy8826]

yeah it's probably not gonna be a good game; and the non disclosure agreements, you have to sign those when you hook upt with a famous celebrity; because they can't let everyone know how terrible they are in bed, it would hurt their fame.

[@WhyDoYouExistX]

Yeah I really want to know, what the hell were they going to give us in 2020? Not to shit on them (They did the right thing and delayed it a whole year) but when the game comes out and we have seen the product, I hope an employee will come forward and tell us what the game was going to be like in Holiday 2020 had they shipped it then.

[@Abel-Alvarez]

@@WhyDoYouExistX Probably the same issue CDPR went through with Cyberpunk 2077 😬

[@Abel-Alvarez]

@re e I don't even like CP 2077 or am too fond of Halo infinite so idk what TF you're complaining about. I'm literally stating my own stance on this knowing that there's people that think the longer the game delays, the higher their expectations get which isn't a good thing. Next time take a deep breath and think twice before coming at me with that BS. 😴

[@moloney0218]

@re e thats completely wrong, they were releasing it holiday 2020, then they decided to delay it, not only that, but I never said I wanted an unfinished game, thats almost the opposite of what I said, all I said was what were they originally going to give us if they hadn't delayed it, all I know is it sure would have been even more bare bones than it already will be. Really thats optimism if you think about it, I'm glad they decided to make the tough decision to delay the game, maybe they should do that again.......

[@BOS_C.O.]

My expectations have been like a rollercoaster and I'm currently shifting between hyped as hell and prepared for the worst

[@Abel-Alvarez]

Just go for the latter, this might be a Cyberpunk 2077 moment when it does come out, so be modest.

[@NathanielBarlam]

Their only hope is to lean into the memes and let players play as Craig in the campaign

[@shaunjimbangan1166]

The meme would probably loose all it's charm if they do that.

[@CarrotConsumer]

Old mate Craig is a legend.

[@gmmg8734]

The devs are probably having halo 2 flashbacks with crunch right now. It’s always an uphill battle with publishers.

[@gottaproxy8826]

@Jordanxkun yeah if those devs were still able to work in the industry we would have good games

[@gottaproxy8826]

get rushed into releasing game eaarly, then you get fired for making the product incomplete by the same management degree holder who forced you to shove the game out too fast

[@Dara-mm9ne]

@Jordanxkun some were

[@TheGoldNShadow]

@Jordanxkun Well besides Joe and maybe Sk3tch

[@e11-f2l]

This is a completely different studio to that

[@Bigjonmetal]

I feel like there's a lack of acknowledgement of those inside infinite things which shed a lot of light into the process and were refreshingly transparent

[@jktwice8235]

I thought this was gonna be ripping on the game. Nope, it's a "The Story So Far..." kind of deal and I loved it. Great video, concise and not too dramatic/cynical. And yes I am worried for this game's campaign but multiplayer has me sold for the most part.

[@lebendigesgespenst7669]

Honestly as someone me who sat through BoTW’s development cycle I’m disappointed they didn’t delay campaign mode and released the multiplayer “early” on halo’s anniversary. If you delayed it once already I can suffer through another delay because at this point I just want the end product to be good enough to have been worth the time. Don’t pull a CD Project Red

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

They want to release all the content that can be perfectly functional at launch. Forge and co-op ain't on that list

[@lebendigesgespenst7669]

@re e it was literally delayed though. They set the release time to 2020 and then shifted it to 2021.That is a delay. By your logic BoTW was also never delayed… for years

[@EpsilonXenos]

This aged well lmao

[@lebendigesgespenst7669]

@@EpsilonXenos lol

[@ComicalRealm]

I just can't wait to play the game already, it's been a long wait

[@hawkevick9184]

Amen!

[@PepeCucumber]

I mean, at least we know the multiplayer exists and is, actually, pretty good

[@user-uh7cb3vy4v]

I agree, i just want to play it already it has been so long

[@ogdababihh309]

And you people are the reason why this game was in the state it was.They know over half the fans will play this game in any condition.

[@SatanasExMachina]

You won't have time to play anyways. You'll be too busy making Trump and Biden dance for my amusement! Get Kamala in there too while you're at it. Thanks.

[@bioniclelegend7]

Yeah, all the leaving and outsourcing does scare me as I really want this game to be at least playable which the muliplayer flight has at least shown to maybe the case which gives me hope. What you have talked about with the campaign though, that pains me. I have 333 hours in the MCC anad I can tell you less than 50 hours of that is in the multiplayer. I love the halo campaigns and have done them all on legendary and LASO (except 4 for LASO becasue the campaignboring and I am lazy). Tbh though I still have some faith in that infinite may do well long term because as MCC has shown, at least with it being on PC and seasons, 343 does put in a lot of work and have added a lot of content to it so hopefully the launch isn't no man's sky levels of bad.

[@Paradoxxicity]

I'm also a campaign player, and don't worry, I just pretend Halo 4 doesn't exist.

[@dannywayne311]

I haven’t watched the video but honestly Halo Finite sounds like a great title just in case the game does go full cyber punk. praying that doesn’t happen but honestly I’ve liked what I’ve played and seen so far

[@rsoxboy]

The Infinite campaign was solid. I loved the story, the emotional ending, and the options for the future of the story. I get that people were getting impatient with the delays, but I'll gladly accept a delayed release to allow the studio to ensure the finished product is right. And spoiler alert: waiting a few months for co-op and forge won't drastically change your life.

[@rustyslug2943]

I come from the future, and those "few months" drastically changed the life of the game, all right.

[@CalistheNick01]

343: Halo Infinite is gonna be good guys, trust us Me, cosplaying as Cortana: “ Don’t make a girl a promise...”

[@unknownwill4th549]

Can i cosplay as grunt?

[@legateelizabeth]

I’m endlessly perplexed why literally anybody has high expectations of this game. I’m going to enjoy the mass “No it’s great!” On launch followed by “okay so it’s not that great” a few months after and then “Halo is saved!” When the new one is announced. Not looking forward to the apologists and renaissance of “was it REALLY that bad?” that the inevitably really that bad Infinite will have in a few years.

[@RomeHam]

No kidding

[@Bigjonmetal]

I mean I've liked what I've played and I like the direction of the campaign so while it's possible it'll be a disappointment, but it's also possible it'll end up being a really cool experience so anyone making up thier mind before playing or seeing the finished product is jumping to conclusions. Including yourself.

[@e11-f2l]

@@Bigjonmetal We already know exactly what the campaign's story is and its shit, at least in my opinion. So I dont think its jumping to a conclusion to say this wont be great

[@TheBatman39]

I couldn't agree more with you; though if Infinite ends up being a trainwreck catastrophe at launch, and everyone does damage control like with Cyberpunk 2077 it's going to be extremely sad and depressing that 343 would gonna have to rely on fanboys and loyalists to defend their cluttered game.

[@KnucklesWTD]

Desperation

[@BTeamOfficial]

Dont forget Halo 2 and CE's troubled development and how well those games came out

[@e11-f2l]

That is irrelevant because this is a completely different team

[@BTeamOfficial]

@@e11-f2l irrelevant how?

[@e11-f2l]

@@BTeamOfficial It's a completely different studio so what has halo ce and 2's development time got to with this? Bungie proved they could make great games under crunch whilst 343 haven't, just look at the abysmal launches of both 5 and MCC

[@lilbubz2803]

The point is a “troubled development” doesn’t determine the quality of a game. A game can be in development hell and still turn out great if the team making it are competent. If halo Infinite flops the excuse that “muh troubled development” is not going to fly, because there have been amazing games which have had worse development troubles with a fraction of the time and money.

[@Gabriel-pq2un]

@@e11-f2l Almost the entire bungie team is working at 343 industries...

[@londonjolly9174]

343 still has a problem with their focus: the world and ongoing story was simply witnessed by chief, the focus wasn't just on him. Halo 2 is (arguably) regarded by many as the best in the series, non-ending and serious development hell aside, and Arbiter went over fine as a playable character. The focus of the OG trilogy was on the war, or the Flood, or the rings... and not focused on the green man you played as. Infinite has the look of Halo (somewhat, the new human weapons look like bland modern weapons, aka very out of place for 25xx), but without the proper focus, it doesn't have the soul of Halo.

[@hounsdjentlow3074]

Dunno bro, this is a future where we still use forklifts

[@londonjolly9174]

@@hounsdjentlow3074 H Y D R O G E N FORKLIFTS!

[@hounsdjentlow3074]

@@londonjolly9174 so... forklifts?

[@londonjolly9174]

@@hounsdjentlow3074 The ultimate vehicle

[@ginopippofrebooter-ilrinne2881]

Long live Destiny 2.

[@Zack-pl9np]

I’m amazed 343 is still in business

[@bankaispirits]

Lol same, Microsoft needs to really take the IP away from them

[@nagger8216]

@@smugplush That's the thing, people really don't though, they actively hide how many players are online regularly and how many copies they sell, nevermind the nosedive in popularity since Halo 4. The only reason people are starting to give a shit about Halo again is because it's basically been 10 years since we've had a Halo game

[@CPU-to5es]

I’m curious to know if you’ve seen their development updates on halo waypoint?

[@thomasdavidson3533]

I always forget this is Tyler's channel so there's always a moment of excitement when I recognize his voice.

[@Franzinho_0802]

So Basically a hell development again? Not like halo 2, but still I trust that this game will be great, but no one can deny that this is hell development

[@Number0neSon]

But the problem is, despite the development hell, Bungie was still able to release amazing Halo 2 trailers, gameplay and cut-scenes before launch...and that was a game with a 3-year development cycle. Halo Infinite, on the other hand, has released only one "good" trailer (which was outsourced and looks better than actual gameplay) for a game that has been in development for 6 friggin' years. I want Infinite to be good, but if it turns out to be another disappointment like Halo 5 then I think Microsoft should take the Halo franchise away from 343 and give it to another, more capable studio.

[@vrubayka]

@@Number0neSon that amazing halo 2 trailer was not actual Halo 2, it got downgraded. 343 should definitely share more info bout the game but not with fake gameplay videos

[@lewatoaofair2522]

“Release is going to miss the 20th Anniversary.” I come fro the future, where the multiplayer DID drop that day!

[@JJAB91]

Fantastic video, really paints a nice timeline into the clusterfuck that has been Infinite's development. Only nitpick I have though is the MP trailer that was shown at GamesCom(the one you show at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="772">12:52</a>) while it goes break canon it doesn't in the way you say it does. The Covenant never invaded just Mombasa, they invaded in places across the planet, Chicago, Cleveland, Sydney, Havana, the Yucatan, even some landed in Antarctica. This has been in established lore since like 2006 so the Covenant also invading London is not exactly too much of a stretch. Rather the canon issues are the phantoms used(They're the Type-57 phantoms seen in Halo 5...which didn't exist until after the war ended and the Covenant would have considered them heretical) and the armor the Spartans use(Its GEN 3 armor at a time when GEN 2 didn't even exist yet). 343i said these aren't actual canon breaks, thats they're just representative and just to pretty much ignore them as I imagine those are just the models they could easily use for the trailer and didn't bother doing things the right way.

[@Nobody-zl3kk]

Tbh i can excuse the gen 3 armor as just gen 1 used by spartan III's and this might just be my stupidness speaking but tbh gen 3 does look a lot like a modernized and more advanced Halo Reach armor, i wish it was the case because that way at least we get a lil' more spartan III representation at the cost of a lot artistic license, the phantoms? Eh, can't find an excuse but its something too specific so it doesn't really bother me

[@PepeCucumber]

Hey Tyler, loving the video but Kolbe Payne himself said he was on a contract and his contract just expired. He is very vocal on twitter about how he is pretty stoked about Infinite, and pretty positive overall. He actually responded to that very same article talking about his departure. Also, he is a level designer, not a gameplay one. And only in campaign, iirc he said that in twitter. Idk about the other people tho lol

[@DJstarrfish]

Missed opportunity to title the video "Halo's Infinite Development"

[@BotBruh448]

What a phenomenal video that actually touched on specific points that a lot of the Halo community hasn't focused on for a while or seems to have completely forgotten about

[@Slender_Man_186]

I was called a hater and a doubter 6 years ago, I’ve already been called much more than that now, and while I want to be hyped, I’m not going to hold out some false hope that it’ll be good when I’ve seen the red flags everywhere.

[@uthergoodman401]

I'd hold out hope. Halo 2 had the worst development hell ever and still came through. If Halo 2 can make it, Infinite can as well.

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@uthergoodman401 Halo 2 was *crunched,* the whole game had to be remade in a year, and despite being an absolute mess under the hood, and having a few exploits, it was a complete product for the time. These guys have had 6 years, no Co-op, no Forge, who knows how many gamemodes finished, and we haven’t seen actual campaign gameplay in nearly two years. Oh but at least we know everything about the monetization scheme.

[@gtrblackhawk]

@@Slender_Man_186 been saying the same thing. Too bad the hype train literally blinds people. 343 hasn’t even stated what people are getting for $60. No word about firefight. No word on exactly the multiplayer is. BTB and some game types of 4v4 is what is assumed but that’s it.

[@oliverranderson9292]

As a life long fan of the franchise I can say with great regret that for me it ended at Halo 3.. let it die, stop flogging the dead horse

[@Uknown76]

No the fans deserve better halo was the reason first person shooters became so popular giving up on halo can't happen

[@nagger8216]

Great regret? I don't know about that, Halo peaked and lived up to its fullest potential, just because some greedy assholes want to puppet around its corpse a decade later doesn't change any of that. All good things have to come to an end at some point, and I'd say Halo (real Halo, not 343's garbage) went out on a pretty high and fulfilling note

[@CooperSmithson]

watched the whole thing, it's golden

[@cipher0325]

I’m excited for halo infinite but I wouldn’t hold my breath be cautiously optimistic

[@tylerl3030]

Expectation and advertisement leads to dissapointment.

[@MrNuclearz]

Shitty games lead to disappointment my friend.

[@mani_9472]

Well, seems like they did it!

[@dudepool7530]

I love how the tie-in nerf blaster, that came with weapon skin codes, came out in like January. Imagine sitting on that skin code for this long?

[@imadrifter]

Imagine having patience

[@A-239]

#fireBonnieRoss Enough is enough. The mismanagement of the franchise has to end.

[@nagger8216]

Speaking of this chick, whatever the hell happened to Kiki Wolfkill? She just disappeared after Halo 4 and Bonnie Ross took over out of nowhere

[@vrubayka]

@@nagger8216 Ross was always the head of the Studio

[@YeahRightMCD]

Multi-player was so bad I didn't even buy the campaign... Especially because I wanted to play coop campaign with my buddy... Like we always did... But that wasn't out. Oof. Back to Apex.

[@JeremySharpSMSG]

Theres a good possibility this video aged like milk. Im actually hoping

[@imadrifter]

Cottage Cheese

[@JeremySharpSMSG]

@@imadrifter lol idk what that might mean lmao

[@imadrifter]

@@JeremySharpSMSG aged milk turns into cottage cheese. That's it. Nothing else.

[@zainchoudhry1459]

Like fine wine

[@haavikwood290]

The level designer leaving makes a ton of sense since the last parts of the game are really bland looking metallic halls

[@jaws8621]

You got another infinite vid in you?

[@jovialmonster757]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="777">12:57</a> that trailer doesn’t break canon, their are official sources of the covenant attacking multiple other locations in the battle of earth ranging from the USA to Australia it really isn’t much of a stretch to assume London could have been hit too.

[@Nobody-uj8qh]

But why mark 7 armor in halo 3 makes no sense

[@hungiie]

inb4 an ex 343i employee releases an unofficial halo infinite vidoc 3 years from now and behind the scenes development looks 10 times more hectic than halo 2, whiteboard and all

[@TheCMan_]

Well, this aged poorly

[@ORLY911]

I have faith that, while development is surely rocky, that the game will at the very least be quite well polished and designed. The unfortunate end is the lack of Forge and co op at launch. However, it does feel like they're releasing components in a similar way to how they revitalized the Master Chief Collection when it came to PC. They had a good grasp on content updates there. My main issue is how poor the multiplayer progressions system is going to work. They had MCC as a model and for some reason they ditched it.

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

Rocky development? Where have I heard that before??? Oh yea. One of the best games ever, Halo 2

[@PepeCucumber]

@@user-mx1fq6qm6i That's the exception, not the norm tho. Although I have hope in Infinite

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

@@PepeCucumber a hellish development is the norm for Halo, especially during the Bungie era.

[@PepeCucumber]

@@user-mx1fq6qm6i But what are you implying? That having bad development means the game is gonna be good? Just because Bungie pulled it off it doesn't mean 343i will

[@Mrflowerproductions]

@@user-mx1fq6qm6i bungie era halos would have been better off with more development time, and 343 is no bungie

[@carbodude5414]

They should delay Infinite by another 6 months with how 343 are only able to offer post-launch changes with the current release date

[@ananastudio]

Damn, I've just realised that the multiplayer cutscene isn't canon ffs

[@EvansKazooCovers]

Nah bro he was wrong in the video, the covenant landed in multiple places on earth, not just New Mombasa, Sydney Australia was another major target as that's where the UNSC headquarters are I believe. London could've just been as easily attacked and it would make sense if multiple major cities were hit

[@AstropoliX]

@@EvansKazooCovers what about the Mark 7 armour, pulse carbine and the Halo 5 phantom?

[@EvansKazooCovers]

@@AstropoliX I don't think the reuse of game assets in a cutscene is a really big deal, but I can see why it's an issue for other people. All three of those can be easily explained if an official explanation were to come out, such as the pulse carbine existing earlier in the series just not being in the sandbox, experimental Mark VII armor and just a different phantom design, but all in all I feel like these gripes are small and shouldn't necessarily be taken at face value. That's just how I feel though and I respect if you feel differently

[@thatoneguy2729]

@@AstropoliX Have you forgotten about H4’s opening cutscene? It’s the same thing as this, cannon story, wrong equipment due to art style.

[@ALLEN-kf7cb]

@@thatoneguy2729 they were just reusing assets and i do get that it could be annoying but it should not be taken at face value, even bungie broke the cannon multiple times like with Halo reach which breaks a lot of the preestablished lore of the fall of reach

[@Herrikias]

Flip a Chucky Cheese token, it always lands on poggers. Every year has been poggers because every second of our lives has been poggers. The only way to move beyond poggers is to normalize poggers to the point of becoming invisible. And that's when the Halo series will be worth playing again.

[@BannerMirror501]

Maybe this will revitalize the halo killer and Sony will give us another Killzone game.

[@ORLY911]

Perfect timing since Free Radical Design reformed and are doing a new Timesplitters (TS2 was coined a Halo killer, despite not being like Halo lol)

[@FumoPliskin]

@@ORLY911 Man I would kill for a sequel to Killzone 3.

[@Gabriel-pq2un]

Who cares about kill zone? The most trash franchise that i have ever seen lol

[@pinstripecool34]

While Ill admit Halo Infinite has seem to have gone through development hell, Im still hyped and hopeful based on what weve seen so far from the multiplayer flight tests.

[@InterstellarStarSailor]

The writing's been on the wall for a while. The game has seen some serious hitches behind the scenes. I'm sorry but i can't see what all the hype is for. I'm going into Halo Infinite with *very* cautious expectations.

[@maux7767]

I think Halo might be going through its Sonic 3D phase. Where they know Fortnite and Live Services are the future, but neither Halo itself nor especially Halo's audience really translates well or wants that at all. And one day Halo 1-3 will be remembered as the classics, and people who didn't grow up with them will be out there asking if Halo was ever good at all.

[@JJAB91]

The problem is this has been an issue for a decade at this point. The last great Halo was Halo 3 and that was released in 2007. The start of Halo's problems can be traced back to Reach but then 343i in their infinite wisdom decided to not only continue that but accelerate it in Halo 4 by essentially taking everything people hated in Reach and doubling down on them. Then in Halo 5 they did so again and just gave the issues to every player by default. 343i just doesn't understand what made Halo good.

[@odeon6139]

Tech test 4 months before release, 2 hours for the pvp only at the end : all green across the board ! Don't expect a Halo revival, stay level headed and wait for the independent reviews.

[@Psyantic1196]

Exactly

[@austrakaiser4793]

All this flak concludes that 343 Industries has lost focus

[@darken2417]

I hope you eventually make a video about Tobey Maguire the only spooderman that has ever or will ever exist. Plenty of memes to work with too.

[@Greviator]

To add fuel to the fire, an article, from jason schrier i believe, went that made a statement there was indeed much in fighting at the studio. IIRC it said there was at one time 4 different teams working on there own builds. To me that seems the team was heavily split on the direction to go after 5, and i bet many were bitter that it wasn't embraced and a new direction was chosen; hence the many departures.

[@captainoftheneverdie21]

Doesn't matter if Halo Infinite turns out good or bad. Based on this video alone, it is destined to end up on Matt McMuscles' What Happened?

[@iyadmajdi]

I’m saving this vid for the future, if Infinite does indeed end up a whole lotta nothing here’s where I’ll comeback to

[@sentrysapper45]

I was a big Halo fan during the Bungie era, but I decided to quit while I was ahead when 343 Industries took over. Reach was such a high note and ended with such satisfying closure that I didn't want to sully it. I didn't want to experience the slow, agonizing decline of yet another series I used to love because it was deemed too lucrative by "The Suits" to die with dignity. Everything I've seen and heard of Halo since then has left me with the impression that I made the right choice.

[@Blazcowitz1943]

Infinite could redeem them, but I think that when 343 took over they should not have continued from Halo 3, but instead made spin off games about the other parts of the Human Covernant war. The war lasted nearly 30 years and we've only seen tiny parts of it. They could have shown Chiefs early career and made many stories about other heroes, like ODST and Reach did.

[@SilliestGoober999]

It's been ruined with multiplayer being free. They have no respect for the tradition of earning armor parts that Bungie had set, and no making you pay for Battlepass seasons just to have the right to earn those parts doesn't count. God knows what sort of other plans they'll have for microtransactions, as multiplayer being free is a justification for that.

[@neojenshi4055]

Halo Creative directors trying to stay for more than 2 minutes be like: 🥱🥱🥱 Glad i wasn't the only one who cringed at the season 1 announcement, it just doesn't feel..... Halo. Reach did a way better job in opinion if they were going to focus on civilian vs godly alien threat.

[@ElCapitan527]

great video, but I'm a little confused. Dose the game Launch with no Coop in any mode or no Coop campain but yes split screen Coop in multiplayer?

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

Splitscreen co-op and online co-op in MP only

[@SneedRemembrancer]

I think there is only split screen mp yeah No campaign co-op at all (online and split screen) until 3 months after launch

[@joshuasatterwhite9520]

That 2018 reboot thing is very eye brow raising

[@hawkevick9184]

H5 multiplayer is fire.

[@MrDgf97]

true, it was definitely a lot more fun that 4's. it just came out extremely lacking in content

[@iamnoahtg]

Agreed. It was a great FPS game, but a terrible Halo game

[@iamnoahtg]

@@RoachCutscenes Freaking VEHICLE FIESTA With H5's massive vehicle sandbox there's no other Halo game that could pull it off the way H5 could

[@tadark9847]

Yep environment feels worse than Halo 2 aniversary from 2014.

[@imadrifter]

Ok

[@greenkoopa]

The last Halo I played was 4 on the 360. That game made me sad because we got Reach on launch. Lol back when we had little babies

[@imadrifter]

@@greenkoopa reach babies

[@ericstratman9817]

It simply cannot be a great halo game without an awful development cycle

[@Slender_Man_186]

Eh, Halo 2’s dev cycle was filled with the blood sweat and tears of developers trying to make the best game possible in just 10 months, even if the end product was rushed, exploit ridden, horribly balanced, and was all wrapped up in some of the worst spaghetti code I’ve seen. This... just feels greed driven, like a shallow attempt to buy back the community’s faith with appearances that evoke a sense of nostalgia for the old day, only to flip the scrip and unload the s**t like CoD WW2 did.

[@nagger8216]

Halo 3 and Reach had relatively fine development cycles, and Halo 2's hellish development is all on Bungie, 343 is just garbage

[@CocoHutzpah]

Oh, I get it. Infinite is a synonym of Forever.

[@cakestealer5983]

Holy shit I could tell something has been up with this game but I didn’t know it was quite THIS BAD

[@Themurderin]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="431">7:11</a> - Okay am I the only one that instinctively thought I was getting the start of an incoming phone call from the weird sound effect he used?

[@tonysee9170]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="18">0:18</a> i shit u not the front armor on the multiplayer poster (left) looks shockingly similar to my armor loadout in reach from the 360 days. CQB helmet with attachment, asymmetric shoulders with a fat plate on one side even the silver/rust color scheme. woah dude.

[@milkapeismilky5464]

I used to routinely buy $60-$70 games based on the box art.

[@SoughtAnarchy]

I played Halo 5, deleted it, came back to it after a couple years thinking I was halfway through. Booted it up, started playing and apparently I beat the game and don't remember anything about it (except I think Cortana is now evil?)

[@InterstellarStarSailor]

That's pretty much the story. Locke's team goes on a wild goose chase for Chief's team, who's on a wild goose chase for Cortana. As soon as they discover she's evil both teams are suddenly friends. The fact that they're addressing the cliffhanger in a cutscene is baffling

[@user-xn3kt6bn5r]

What's the song he uses for the patron screen?

[@TCMACK]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="179">2:59</a> Well that didn’t age well, did it😂

[@Anonymous-Digits]

First, let's shed some light on what you may have not been told. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="227">3:47</a> Halo Online; This was the next 'project' in Halo. It took the criticism of 'not being Halo 3' to direct heart, and added aspects of the title from Halo Reach & 4. Halo ONLINE was inherently 'what' the title was going to end up being, but in a slightly updated variation. Eventually this was scrapped. By 2017-2018, 343 Industries went through MASSIVE lead and management shakeups. Between the convoluted system of command structure at 343 for 'anything' on their titles, to the development studio outright not listening to fan feedback or hiring employees to give feedback to simply not take it, 343 Industries went through lead changes to remove this arbitrary structure that lead to, if you will, Halo 4 & Halo 5. Outsourcing happens in nearly every studio; For example, just to be that person, Nuare Studios is one of the places they outsource to, which also works with plenty of PlayStation exclusive development studios. Most of the art assets in Halo have traditionally been outsourced for polish to other studios so that the quality is 'up to par' with a higher quality production. 343, unlike studios try to compare them to, are a group of 'regular' game developers and lovers of the series who have skills in the trade, but are by no means 'the best in the industry'. That inherently is the point of why they work on this game...they have a passion for it. A lot of confusion across the board and I think I'm just going to skip a bit here. Halo Infinite started it's actual development in 2018. 2015 - 2018 was conceptual ideas for where to go, what to do with it, ideas and concepts. The game engine that was designed wasn't 'just' for ease of use for a live service model; It was a design to bring in a far less buggy game engine (compared to the previous one rehashed since Halo 2, 3, reach, 4, 2a, all the way till Halo 5). This game engine also featured a vastly revamped physics engine based off Havok, with a revamped game entire entirely for easily updatable visuals, lighting and performance. Original 'lies' that were 'squashed' by the Community team at 343 before the delay are as follows: - "The Xbox One version will be dropped" - False, created as a clickbait narrative - "The game engine was buggy spaghetti code" - False, that was Halo Masterchief Collection, specifically Halo CE & Halo 2 Classic, which were Gearbox ports from early 00s - "The multiplayer will ship separate from the campaign" - False, the original intended release date was November 30th 2020, with Multiplayer & Campaign releasing at the same time. - "The game was outsourced" - False, it was no more outsourced than The Last of Us Part II or Call of Duty - "The leads are leaving because the games a dumpster fire" - False; Many were leaving because they were only onboard up until their contract expired. Many of which, specifically Longo and various creative leads before 2019, were never renewed back to 343 Industries, as they (343) did not want to renew their contracts. After delay: - "The delay was due to graphics" - Although yes, very relevant, the delay itself was due to the state of the title as far as bugs are concerned. They had numerous bugs after September 2020 and they had two options; Massive crunch, leading to Jason Schreier to post multiple articles attempting to destroy their studio...or delay the game. Additionally, they took the added time to outsource back to Nuare to update each texture to be more 'next gen', as what was described, specifically so people stopped belittling the work. They also took the time to properly adjust and fix the multitude of bugs that made the title look weird as shown within the July 2020 preview build. - "The game is missing content" - In order to miss content, the content would have to be traditionally there. There was only 1 singular title with 'all' of the requirements added, which would be Halo 4. I'd have to stop and question if people really want to pretend that Halo 4 was the 'best Halo ever', since this is the extent which would and can be argued by this extreme (as far as content being there or not at launch). - "The game is filled with microtransactions" - Although important to consider, the transactions are not a requirement and there's millions of things you can unlock without spending an ounce of real money. It's there for an option. - "The game is going through development hell, they didn't even show it at E3 and they didn't even announce a date until August!" - Although important to some strange people, that's the thing. Campaign in a shooter has always been niche, and the reason why it's not displayed now is for extra silence. The PS5, for example, made splashes by just not showing anything (or saying anything major) on it until a few months before it's conceptual launch. In the realm of gaming, shadow drops are far more viable for higher player counts and sales verses a planned release date. As per Campaign, they already announced they'll show off campaign footage later on toward the end of October area. But for why not any real campaign footage at E3, with the focus at Forza: That one was simple. Mystery and the focus. Multiplayer, by it's nature, is going to be far more popular and far more accessible for most of the people interested in this game, and sure the campaign would be fantastic to have shown off, there is a fundamental point here as to what is and isn't good marketing. Showing the multiplayer, the 'bread and butter of halo', is far more of an attention grabber than having a spartan walk a distance to shoot a few AI's and do slides or drive a warthog. This isn't the plot line of a revenge story, this is 'Halo'. You can only make campaign as powerful as the story itself, and without completely spoiling the story, there's only so much 'action' you can truly show off for it to be enjoyable...but in the multiplayer, you can just throw on one of your pro players and off you go. Why wasn't it at Gamescom Xbox? Because their announcement was mostly the release date, not footage. Was the multiplayer trailer outsourced? Yes and no. Mostly no, but yes at the same time. Was it 'cannon'? There is no such thing as cannon in Halo, let alone Halo multiplayer. Anyone who tells you different either has no idea what they're talking about, or speculates too heavily on 'what happens between each game' instead of the surface level. The battle rifle has no place in halo ce yet it exists in halo 2, 3, reach, 4 and 5. Each weapon completely changes functions in each title. In Halo CE elites were bad guys, in Halo 2 they were friends, in Halo 3 some were friends some were enemies. Etc etc etc. "Canon" doesn't exist for Halo outside of the main plot point...and even that contradicts itself between Halo CE, 2 and 3. Welcome to Halo. Anyone who says otherwise delve too far into 'the books'...which have almost no relevance to the games...aside from Halo 5 (the worst campaign in the series). How about the release date being in December? Well that's a clearly obvious reason. BF2042 October, CoD November. Why put your game so close to one of the other two niche titles when it'll just get swallowed by one or the other. Spread it out; Same with titles for Xbox exclusives. Forza releases in November, why release Halo around the same time as Forza, spread it out to give distance between purchase and playtime, so that people have the opportunity to try out that game upon launch instead of 'later on'. The only people who speculated November 15th were dumb enough to truthfully think that they would launch Halo on the 20th year Anniversary of Xbox. No, they would launch another Xbox console on the 20th anniversary LMAO. Halo would just be around that region of time. The original pushback release was September - December 2021, and that moved further back the more buggier messes they went. Debugging was something that was both put off till the end, and something that had to wait until after all art assets were finalized. Needless to say, this is why Forge isn't releasing with the game. Same purpose; finalized art assets = debugging. Forge, being a massive world editor and game engine within the game engine, basically needs to be fully debugged as well. I was never given 'why co-op won't ship', but if I had to guess there's probably a game breaking bug within that too that they just are waiting until after the go-live patch for that one...for flighting/'testing' purposes.

[@Anonymous-Digits]

The other issue here is at 14:20 you say "No co-op split screen"; that isn't to state co-op split-screen. That's to state 'co-op campaign'. Split screen will be there for all Xbox platforms at launch in full form of 4 total players. Co-Op Campaign, the ability for you to join into someones campaign and play with them (being it online or split screen) is not going to be there until 2-3 months after launch. This, from my suspected belief since I was never told, is most likely due to a game breaking bug that they're waiting until after launch build to fix. Probably because the debug testing is a long process in a game that effectively is 50 games by now tied into 'two' experiences. Split screen was announced and is available at launch. Co-Op Campaign isn't available at launch. There's a difference between the two. The co-op campaign will be available within the first update of the game. "What was this game looking like in 2020" Well the exact same before the bug updates, except with lesser fidelity graphics and a bit wonky memory addressment issues. To be blunt; The major part of 'the delay' was waiting on art assets to be brought back to 343 Industries and then changing these all out. We're talking hundreds of thousands of textures being completely changed, addressed, modified and redesigned, assets being adjusted and modified slightly, and everything being updated and retested again for glitches. The only major difference would have been that the graphics don't look as 'next gen' as they do now. That's really is....besides the potentially wonky bugs. And by wonky bugs, i know of one that is literally a throwback to classic Halo. I'll leave you guessing on that one.

[@cheesegreater5739]

I think they should delay 4 months so the game at least has split screen and polish

[@SneedRemembrancer]

Haha y-yeah co-op in every game going forward Just not at launch, just like every other feature in infinite.

[@normiewhodrawsonpaper4580]

this is either going to end up like No man's sky or Fallout 76.

[@camygael]

How about now?

[@DJXelto1997]

I’m waiting in anticipation for the release of the end credits song.

[@jesusperez2694]

My son loves the idea of halo. Halo infinite will be his frist new title but thankfully his frist game is halo reach. I've never been more proud I've bought him halo toys where I could find then. I do wanna show him halo three but in do time.

[@gtrblackhawk]

Look if you want to absolutely play the campaign pay for a month of game pass for $5 beat it and move on with life. I still say don’t pay for it at all. But under no circumstances should anyone give $60 to this.

[@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan]

It's already begun. You haven't even seen the campaign yet so saying it's not worth $60 is idiotic. But I already called this. But people in the Halo community said it wouldn't happen.

[@URAWESOME94]

I haven’t cared about halo since halo 3. The ODST saga was okay, but the new designs and overall feel since then sucked. Halo 1 came out when I was in first grade. It was the flagship of Xbox. Halo 2 rocked my world. I was 10. Halo 3 was beautiful. I’ve been waiting for a reason to buy the latest Xbox. Halo infinite at first seemed like something I’d consider getting a new Xbox. The more that comes out, the less likely I will. I don’t think I will. Such a shame. This was a saga I grew up with. Super rich lore. Unique stories and enemies. Incredible subliminal commentary on human belief and militaristic quarrels. Scientific research colliding with morality. Religious fanaticism. Colonial conquest. Such a damn gem. Cortana has been a motherly voice to me for twenty goddamn years. Chief has been the rustic gravel voiced badass leading the charge for the same. Now more than ever I find myself no longer caring at all. This is a franchise I’d want my future children to fall in love with just as I did. What stands today is dog shit. No longer unique. Just a face in a sea of bland shooters. Halo used to be so different. So odd. So alien and yet so human. So familiar yet so abstract. Bleh. Fuck this.

[@angrymoths]

I'm gonna call it: the entire campaign has been re-tooled and likely rewritten in the last year, and it's been a huge chunk of the new work.

[@Enderguy059]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="780">13:00</a> The Multiplayer Season 1 trailer never broke canon. The Prophet of Regret's Covenant fleet attacked multiple cities on Earth during the events of Halo 2. It was only when Truth arrived with the exact location of the Ark Portal on Earth did they converge on Mombasa.

[@JuanGomez-uh9on]

Jesus christ man does nobody get that most of the visuals that people rag on was on a much older build than we will ever get?! Other than that I think this video is definitely valid and brings up great points

[@frankieiv3637]

Me personally, I don’t care because I’m easily pleased when it comes to Halo. However, for everyone else, I think this game should be delayed to November 15, 2022. Just my opinion though.

[@SniperRed0092]

Maybe not that long, but yes, it needs a delay.

[@aaronstallings4996]

The multiplayer looks fun so I'll play that, I'll play the campaign on game pass and have my fun

[@turokrambo5617]

Microsoft has Money! Plenty of it to Delay it. Literally they need to leave 343 alone on the dead line and let them finish it. They can NOT be financially destroyed if it gets Delayed. If they were they would have to be well under 1billion. But there net worth is 2 Trillion. They are good

[@ALLEN-kf7cb]

Microsoft gave them 6 years, twice as much as the other games, gave them freedom to create an open world game, gave millions of dollars, got them help from other studios and even brought joseph Staten on board, delayed it by a yea if this game comes out in a shit state 343i has no one to blame but themselves

[@Thx4thefreekill]

I'll be honest tho. Would it be a halo game without some development hell.

[@shaggythewriter8185]

Alternate Title: *Tears of a Master Chief*

[@joseph2000117]

If this game fails, people will claims it is because of the "December curse" 1st Cyberpunk then Halo Infinite

[@DDRWakaLaka]

what is the song at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="488">8:08</a>

[@MK-ld6il]

It is bad but at the same time I am positive about this because Joe staten had to push through halo 2 (which if you don’t know had probably the worst Development luck ever) and still made possibly one of the best games of all time.

[@alexanderrobins7497]

Unfortunately Joseph Staten joined after the games was basically complete, whatever that means given the red flags after the delay. I have faith he can make another amazing Halo game if given full control from the beginning, but Bonnie Ross is still in charge and he joined five years in development. A large ship cannot turn or change velocity instantly, unfortunately.

[@max4750]

Jesus Christ. One of my childhood series is going down in flames.

[@mtzzero]

343 needs to be rebuilt from the top down. Totally incompetent management!

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

No, it's greedy investors

[@nagger8216]

Agreed, it's been proven over and over that 343 are filled with incompetent dipshits that need the boot

[@Vaporious2000]

Let's be real for a sec, this game's gonna launch even more barebones than Halo 5 and be as buggy as Cyberpunk. Here's what you'll get on Dec 8th: -4 hour story with 20 hours of copy paste busy work ripped straight outta Far Cry with yet another cliff hanger ending(read the leaks if you don't believe me). No Flood, No Prometheans, No Arbiter, No Blue Team, No Atriox, No Created, Maybe some Sentinels, and a whole lot of slightly better looking Craigs that won't be even half as cool as HW2 Banished aka the real Banished. -Multiplayer that's just Blops 4 with a Halo skin, a handful of generic maps and plenty of balance issues(343 wants Halo to be COD after all lol). BtB will be there too, on like three maps probably that'll run like crap on the last gen consoles. Customization will be Reach lite with half as many options(or twice as many in exchange for 90% of them being uglier than the crap from Halo 5) locked behind god knows how many battle passes and microtransactions. Gotta make sure that's there at launch lol Oh and maybe split screen will be there but it's 343 so who knows. They backtracked on coop already so their word means nothing. -Theater maybe, assuming it actually works this time but I'm not holding my breath. And that's it baby. Even 20 year old CE launched with more content than this game. It's easy to see why hype is nonexistent, this game is doomed.

[@KnucklesWTD]

And still 343 supporters are blind

[@Lanay_]

can you provide me with the link so I can check it out?

[@camygael]

This kinda sounds like you WANT this game to flop

[@edgarp66]

To hell with the pandemic.. there is no excuse to why this game is this hidden from people.. nothing on campaign. Nothing except barebones on MP.. delays in game modes.. 343 is milking it for microsoft and gamespass. Theyre gonna make this shit exactly like destiny. Live service… with a couple little differences.

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

Those couple little differences are that the game will release with a not shit story and actual content for the multiplayer

[@nagger8216]

I kinda agree, even with COVID this game had 6 years in the oven, get your shit together 343. Although we've been saying that for at least a decade now

[@user-mx1fq6qm6i]

@@nagger8216 3 of these years were spent on the engine

[@heyitsfranklynn168]

This sounds identical to the rollout of kanyes newest album Donda

[@egirlcafemanager7119]

Third strike and you are out, if this game fails, they must take it from 343 hands and give it to someone competent. Put Halo in cryosleep for 10 years

[@shaunjimbangan1166]

Why 3 though