The MISSING Ingredient to your Livestream Audio Mix

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@marcelobustos5328 5 ай бұрын

Brother Ryland, don’t know how to thank you for making this video. I’m a worship leader at my congregation in Sweden and I came across your channel after taking the leap of faith into the digital world of mixing 😅, currently on a X32 and your videos have helped me tremendously. Thank you once again 🙏🏻

@BodenBoy81 5 ай бұрын

Side chaining the crowd mics to the drums is a stroke of brilliance. We don't have a second tech to run our stream mix, so I was trying to figure out how to have control over the crowd mic volume. Thank you for this elegant solution!

@crashingrhino 10 ай бұрын

Dude! Your videos keep getting more pro level. Thanks brother.

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

😎 Thanks!

@audiovisualcoordinator4365 10 ай бұрын

I used old choir mics, hung from our catwalk, about 14 ft off the floor. They're about 4 rows of seats back and aimed with the rejection point aimed toward the PA. They work great.

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Nice! How did you manage time alignment? Jealous of your catwalk!!

@audiovisualcoordinator4365 10 ай бұрын

@@RylandRussell I'm definitely spoiled with the catwalk! Our camera signal flow to the broadcast room, is close to 400ft from Camera to the switcher. (Camera -> FOH Videohub, FOH -> Amproom Videohub, Amp room down the hall to Broadcast Room Switcher) So to get our audio in sync with our video, we delay our broadcast mix (on an aux) by about 150ms. Audience mics are on their own aux delayed by about 110ms, to put them in correct timing relative to the house. Both auxes feed a matrix, which is sent to broadcast.

@collabworship 10 ай бұрын

Audience mics for the win! Great video.

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Dillon/Kade! :)

@TheElijahMarkins 10 ай бұрын

On point as always! Gotta have the crowd mic, what a difference that makes when capturing worship!

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Thanks a bunch and I completely agree. 👍

@OldBaldGeek 9 ай бұрын

We have some elderly or immune-compromised members who can only join worship on our livestream. Our crowd mic really helps make them feel part of the community. Before the service, we boost the crowd mic so they can hear the jumble of conversations in the space. Adjust up or down during readings/sermons/singing. Our space is small enough that people can offer prayers and prayer requests from their seats. We crank the crowd mic during these. The sound quality is lo-fi and reverberant, but on the stream you can HEAR what is being said - usually as well or better than people in the worship space. I wish we could do the same in the space without feedback, but ya canna violate the laws of physics.

@WorshipMinistryTraining 9 ай бұрын

Great job Ryland. You're crushing it!

@nathanbrown5131 10 ай бұрын

Majorly helpful. Thanks, man!

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Awesome to hear. Hope you are well Nathan!

@Palvader 9 ай бұрын

Ryland! This is so helpful! We lack a bit in the "Processing" department, and I learned from you!

@JackOwensMusic 10 ай бұрын

Would’ve loved to see the SE8 in the mic shootout!

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Wish I had some to test, that'd be cool.

@thomasfoster4091 10 ай бұрын

One point of advice: you’ll have a much easier time with the crowd mics if your room has been treated with sufficient sound absorption. If not, it may be very difficult, if not impossible to tame the drums or PA bleed from the room mic, even if it is a shotgun mic.

@marvinfedelino6070 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for very helpful information

@gbc6480 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for actually combining the audio sample with real-time video, easier to interpret while looking at where they're positioned. Was also struggling in applying sidechain comps a lot so thanks for the explanation!

@DbiPro 9 ай бұрын

C2 stereo pair sounds nice in the ceiling

@richardprigge124 9 ай бұрын

Totally agree with your side chaining technique. I've done this with our overhead drum mics as the source. I think I'll try doing the same with the pastor mics so I can really get those room mics up in those quieter worship moments. I might also try a rider to achieve something similar

@micahmuth4256 10 ай бұрын

What I’ve done in the past is mid side. It was a rode nt5 and a warm audio fet47jr in figure 8 pattern. The vet channel is duplicated panned and flip the polarity. Aimed at the pa and I mix that in with stage mics. I use the snare or smaart to align all the mics. Lately I’ve been running the crowd mics in a verb to add texture. Then I turn the whole thing up until it feels like an effect. Not overpowering but it’s there. I like to use the ones aimed at the pa to help fill in the information that was taken out in the board mix. It’s not amazing but it works for me.

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Cool tips! I’ll have to give em a try sometime. Thanks Micah.

@gerardobello1747 10 ай бұрын

This is awesome. Thanks!! Our church is very small so I just use 2 cameras in regular services and I just open the mics on the cameras to listen to the people.

@StephenWitheford 3 ай бұрын

I had thought about doing that myself as well because we are a small church and we have to set up and pack down each Sunday the only problem I was getting was the timing between the mics on stage and the mics on my camera were out of sync and I was having a hard job trying to get them nicely balanced inside of obs

@jefffuhr2393 10 ай бұрын

Really appreciated! God bless you.

@johnmatt5660 9 ай бұрын

My initial goal of ambient mics was to help the band keep their in-ears in their ears. What I get now using two ambient mics, is that any reverb or tap-delay isn’t helpful for the band. The stream sounds much better although until I heard your suggestion of gating I was riding the fader to pull ambient sound out of the mix. I will try the parallel compression to address the reverb/delay. Thank you for sharing your passion and excellence.

@Raymanuelmuzik 10 ай бұрын

I have the same setup, can’t beat the c2s for audience mics!! Ryland’s We need a video on your p16 setup!!

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Nice! Hmmmm I can't say we really have too much crazy going on with our p16's but it might be interesting to some.

@torranceanderson3879 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video Ryland! After your suggestion to add audience mics from reviewing our (Highland Park-Edmond) livestream awhile back we added the C-2s as well. I will have to try the side compression and ducking. Thanks again for your videos and God bless!

@StephenWitheford 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video that was very helpful I have a pair of those microphones so I will try to set up something within our congregation we are only a very small church here in New Zealand with about 50 people only on a good day I need the crowd mics mainly for the live stream that we have on Facebook so that those that are away sick can attend a service with our system we have to set up and pack down every Sunday because we are using our local school hall but thanks for your help and advice I will take that on board and try to achieve something better for our Facebook live stream

@markcrosby9212 10 ай бұрын

Good info Ry, thank you so very much.

@KairosVisuals 10 ай бұрын

This is great, thanks for comparing the different mics!

@nathansanda1483 9 ай бұрын

Great video.. Thanks brother. God bless you

@DbiPro 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing this!

@crashingrhino 10 ай бұрын

This is a great help. Thank you Ryland.

@RevJorgeDiaz 10 ай бұрын

Good stuff Ryland! We just added crowd mics to our stream mix. We’re a small church with a small stage so we had to place one of the mics in front of the drums, so we get some cymbal bleed. Your eq suggestion should help so thanks for the video!

@q127238 Ай бұрын

We have a small setup as well. love to see yours

@snapascrew 9 ай бұрын

I couldn't do my post show remixes without audience mics. I always use a snare hit for alignment.

@coder4liberty 9 ай бұрын

The way shotgun mics do their polar pattern they generally aren't good indoors. Reflections sort of defeat the way they do tight polar patterns. The pencil condensers are a much better choice for indoors. You could even try parabolic dishes to focus what you get.

@DbiPro 9 ай бұрын

I’m hoping I can come up with sound absorption ideas that work and look nice for other church’s soon

@bmaze35640 10 ай бұрын

I think I like the AT best, but the stereo pair sounds the best. Maybe it’s placement of where those for the stereo pair.

@_benedictus 10 ай бұрын

Hey Ryland! Love the content so much but I would like to ask about the floor design. what materials have been used to come up with the stage floor and the idea behind it

@djspecialpaul 10 ай бұрын

Nice video ... And you are right --> we use this too often for the IEMs - this give our artist a much better feeling. - The last thing why I like this --> special when you make prof music/live music. video for your bands.

@SpringsChurchSound 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information, very helpful. We have a church that is outdoors. Every Sunday we set up and take down in the City park. Any suggestions from anyone on which mics and/or locations for mics to pick up our crowd? I have tried 2 Shure 58s, just because I have them, they were not great. Any suggestions or comments would be great.

@joshuacaullenwoode 5 ай бұрын

Hi Rylan. Thank for the video especially your compression tip. We use the Presonus 64s so there’s no ducking feature with the gate just an expander. What do you recommend in order to pull that part off?

@erikness4128 10 ай бұрын

I feel like your mix with the crowd mics brough an already good mix to a great mix! What are some things you did to make your livestream mix to be good even without the crowd mics? We currently just switched to an sq5 looking to improve our livestream

@iengineer_247 10 ай бұрын

I never thought about audience mics for in ears so musicians/singers don't have to use one earphone side!!!! I record a lot of Jazz bands and sometimes worship bands I always make room mics. When I mix the session I wait to the band get people engaged to add in the real time feeling. I eq all low end out, play with midrange, be careful with highs then use compression to make it aggressive in a buss then parallel blend!!!

@seungeunha1797 9 ай бұрын

Hi! Could anyone explain to me why we need to put our mic’s on the mixing booth/FOH mixing station? Sorry if this has been explained before

@pcbeyer78 2 ай бұрын

Does anyone have any thoughts about using the Deity s mic 2 for crowd mics up high?

@jeremycf5122 10 ай бұрын

I like to have two sets of room mics. Two shotguns on stage facing out to get as much as the people, while minimizing the PA being picked up, and two cardioids on stands next to the sound console, basically to act as the FOH guys ears, that way if the FOH guy hears the congregation singing out, then the people at home will too

@soundxajay 10 ай бұрын

Cool ❤

@VCE-LTD 7 ай бұрын

Awesome

@Nathan_Lundstrom 10 ай бұрын

The ONLY thing I noticed about this video: I think you flubbed a word and called it ‘parallel compression’, when you meant to refer to ‘sidechain compression’ because you talked about the sidechain feature using that word. Parallel compression is a super useful tool and could be useful for this application, but a different tool. I’ll have to listen to some of your recent service replays. In isolation that EQ really sounds like you’re taking away the ‘room’ sound of the crowd mic, but in practice it’s blended in with sources that are fighting to be clear in the 200-400Hz range anyway haha.

@RylandRussell 10 ай бұрын

Yes sidechain 🤦‍♂️