The Missing Mutant - Changing X-Men Dark Phoenix

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Nando v Movies

Nando v Movies

4 жыл бұрын

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I am a humongous X-Men fan. I love the shows, comics, movies, and games. I mean, as I write this description, I am reading the new X-Force 4 by Benjamin Percy. And, even thought it was fine, I found Dark Phoenix incredibly disappointing.
And I don't think this movie could necessarily be "fixed" since there are so many fundamental problems with these movie. So instead of changing the entire movie, I am going to simply ask a question. One that I thought about as I left the theater. And then I'm going to see if that answer could improve the movie.
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@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 4 жыл бұрын
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@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Nando v Movies I thought you heard of Jason Wyngrade aka Mastermind?
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Nando v Movies I also thought that the missing character was Olivia Munn
@thestarwarsguy1821
@thestarwarsguy1821 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Frost can cheat death like Charles did. Magneto went to prison in 64. Emma Frost died in 63 when JFK was shot before Magneto was arrested, X-Men Origins takes place in 85 (I'll explain why that is if you're interested), and Tanya Tahzi, the Origins Emma actress was 22 years old when she filmed origins. When Emma died in 63 she did a consciousness transfer into a braindead foetus inside Kayla Silverfox's mother becoming Emma Silverfox/ Frost. If you do the maths 1985-1963= 22 years, the age of the actress who played her in Origins. Enough time has passed in the real world for Tanya Tozzi to be the right age to play Emma in the 90s when Dark Phoenix is set.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
TheStarWars Guy well are some mutants are immortal I think
@GeneralBulldog54
@GeneralBulldog54 4 жыл бұрын
The 90’s X-Men cartoon was what got me into the comics growing up. It was also the reason why I got Disney+ (outside of Gargoyles and Avengers: EMH). As for X-Men movie, it’s tied between First Class, X2 and Logan. If Marvel Studios can top all of those, then they have my gratitude and no wrong. However, I doubt they’ll go as far as Logan smoking, even have half the inspiration of Archangel’s rebirth to Metallica’s Four Horsemen in Apocalypse or Nightcrawler’s White House attack in the tune of Mozart’s Dies Irae or the heart of Charles and Eric’s friendship in the First Class movies.
@noahbranston7242
@noahbranston7242 4 жыл бұрын
"It's a small change" Actually makes the movie 10X better like a boss
@alexwallar8608
@alexwallar8608 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the smallest change can make a big difference
@jtcob8486
@jtcob8486 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexwallar8608 I understood that reference
@huntermawn8344
@huntermawn8344 4 жыл бұрын
*patreon time*
@happyguy2k
@happyguy2k 4 жыл бұрын
Yes plus i like how he referenced the other films in their dialogue. He did great
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 4 жыл бұрын
6:40 Darwin didn't die, obviously his powers safely removed him from the story. It was the most certain way to escape whatever the writers were planning for him.
@Levyathyn
@Levyathyn 4 жыл бұрын
I would literally pay all of my money if and some kind of future, better story with a better role for Darwin, he just appears because instead of dying his powers teleported them into a story that wouldn't convolute his own death.
@marcusi.7740
@marcusi.7740 3 жыл бұрын
Darwin has some of most visually interesting powers that would make for creative fight scenes. I don’t really care if he didn’t actually die but I just wanted to see more of him. In the comics he has gone toe to toe with stronger beings than Sebastian Shaw
@claytongriffith8323
@claytongriffith8323 3 жыл бұрын
I would have been down for that if he came back later in the movie
@Dracosfire14
@Dracosfire14 3 жыл бұрын
Darwin was gonna fight Hulk in the comics once. Instead of that, he developed the ability to teleport. So this idea has a basis from the comics
@marcusi.7740
@marcusi.7740 3 жыл бұрын
Dracosfire14 yeah he would realize in a movie and say okay see you guys in a sequel
@artinkiani90
@artinkiani90 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Phoenix was a clustervuck
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 4 жыл бұрын
Gotem!
@ThePonderer
@ThePonderer 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@backwardsbrain2255
@backwardsbrain2255 4 жыл бұрын
Ha
@alejandrocervantes3624
@alejandrocervantes3624 4 жыл бұрын
HAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!
@TF2Fan101
@TF2Fan101 4 жыл бұрын
*Rimshot*
@AlexDeMiro
@AlexDeMiro 4 жыл бұрын
"Vuk" is an old slavic name for "Wolf", so she was literally a "Wolf in sheep's clothing".
@Patrick-pc3vq
@Patrick-pc3vq 4 жыл бұрын
It's not old slavic, Vuk is still used as a word for Wolf in most slavic states.
@christopherwilliams242
@christopherwilliams242 4 жыл бұрын
Still lame
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherwilliams242 It'll be forever lame
@BroTastic23
@BroTastic23 4 жыл бұрын
So what you're essentially saying is that a Wolf is responsible for killing a Fox?
@ffejpsycho
@ffejpsycho 4 жыл бұрын
Booooooo!!!
@aussiewanderer6304
@aussiewanderer6304 4 жыл бұрын
Jean: "I thought you were dead" Emma: "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
@projectgraham414
@projectgraham414 4 жыл бұрын
This movie was a giant "Vuk you" to X-Men fans like myself. The score is probably the only redeeming thing about it
@EricGraham94
@EricGraham94 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Phoenix would’ve been a better movie if it had focused on just the drama WITHIN the X-Men. It’d be a nice deviation from the human/mutants conflict that’s permeated the series (maybe the only other tertiary villain could’ve been Mister Sinister; he could’ve been partially what triggered Jean to tap into the Phoenix Force in say a telepathic battle reminiscent of Scanners).
@AlessioAlessi
@AlessioAlessi 4 жыл бұрын
No way! It makes 0 sense to use a villain as Sinister in a movie that is supposed to have its own villain already (The Dark Phoenix).
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Alessio Alessi or what about Deadpool 2
@happyguy2k
@happyguy2k 4 жыл бұрын
It would have been better not made but another film entirely with Mr Sinister as villain especially since his name was teased in a previous film
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Guy yeah the post credit of X-men apocalypse with the Essex Corp
@obsidian8180
@obsidian8180 4 жыл бұрын
When they revealed Jessica's casting I immediately thought she was Emma, was convinced even seeing her in black (emma even started wearing black in the comics) and as you've pointed out, it makes complete sense for it to be Emma. Cant wait for part 2. Btw you may get started on that longer version lol. Im pretty interested in that one too.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Reckless Pixels actually she should was supposed to be Jason wyngrade
@AlessioAlessi
@AlessioAlessi 4 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 no! She was supposed to be the Skrull queen!
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Alessio Alessi but there is that element of the comics
@brycelennon9255
@brycelennon9255 4 жыл бұрын
They were better off going with Lady Mastermind at this point!
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Bryce Lennon yeah one of his daughters
@MechanicWolf85
@MechanicWolf85 4 жыл бұрын
This Ema Frost plan sounds very interesting Many villians are always about controlling the world, but very few are about keeping that control in check Seeing what is basically the 1% with a likeable yet questionable plan of keeping peace using manipulation opens a lot of ideas and arguments to talk about
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
That Guy Again and it is strange that Jason Wyngrade calls himself Mastermind is a bit odd because he is not a leader but a member
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 4 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 I was under the impression Mastermind was a solo act before the Dark Phoenix Saga; after Jean broke his mind, he joined the Hellfire Club in part because Emma helped pull him back together. "Impression" because all I have to go on is the page or so of backstory he gives during his reveal in the Saga.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Boo Bah well he is obscured
@davidj3841
@davidj3841 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that and also *TIDDIES*
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
David J what
@sterlingkart9562
@sterlingkart9562 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, youre rewrite is actually how i imagined Emma Frost. Man, I want an Inner Circle influenced storyline . The Gifted was the only one we got.
@ShoddyDaisy
@ShoddyDaisy 4 жыл бұрын
I love Emma frost and the Hellfire club, this rewrite fits soooooooo much better into this x-universe than aliens
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Shoddy Daisy and what about Jason Wyngrade?
@ShoddyDaisy
@ShoddyDaisy 4 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 I'm always into characters like Mastermind, so long as they aren't used too much. He definitely could work in this rewrite as a way of subtly manipulating Jean once she meets with the Hellfire club
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Shoddy Daisy well he is the white bishop in this story and I always get confused with William Stryker’s son being Mastermind
@GeneralBolas
@GeneralBolas 3 жыл бұрын
"This is Selene, the Black Queen. Though you may be taking her place soon." That is *such* an Emma line.
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 4 жыл бұрын
Simon Kinberg: Tell me how to fix this, Fox! Tell me what to do! Fox: I don't know what to do!
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 4 жыл бұрын
IDONTKNOWWHATTODO!
@tweeks9896
@tweeks9896 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@acgeewhiz
@acgeewhiz 4 жыл бұрын
I know it’s not quite the same, but I’d just like to add: “Looooggann...”
@jonwatson7155
@jonwatson7155 4 жыл бұрын
We need to start a petition to get you writing for these movies. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!
@466chalk
@466chalk 4 жыл бұрын
Fox: I don't give a Vuk! Nando: That's the problem...
@Magnus1964
@Magnus1964 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the conspiracy/intrigue approach. I come back to this a lot in thinking about the “how to” of superhero movies. When you a character or team with amazing powers & skills, the answer isn’t always to pair them up with their villainous equivalent. For example: the JLU season dealing with The Cadmus Project. That super team was not prepared for a completely amoral covert government program. It forced them to think strategically, rather than in terms of straightforward battle. It’s why Winter Soldier worked so well as a Captain America movie. The X-Men’s most memorable battles are often against elements of society rather than ordinary supervillains. It adds to the drama that the X-Men just want to be accepted as part of that society...
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 4 жыл бұрын
Right! This Inner Circle mutant illuminati idea fills in so many plot holes that it almost makes the craziness of the live action Xmen universe make sense. I mean with so many large scale mutant-human relations crises accumulating through the series of films you'd think that instead of only having Charles winning humanitarian awards, you'd see him struggling to fight back against the anti-mutant rhetoric out there in the world, so he shuts it out (whereas Emma Frost doesn't, which sorta proves her point and fuels her agenda). I love it. Also i absolutely love the JLU Cadmus arc! I think that was really what first opened my eyes to the depth of superhero fiction. It's actually what i really wanted to be the multifilm background bad guys for the DCEU, sorta like Hydra was for MCU. Ugh now i just wanna talk about it but dont want this comment getting too long, lol
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the x men are also known for their space adventurers.
@eduardofranco8528
@eduardofranco8528 4 жыл бұрын
"It would be kinda like you just make Man of Steel, and then go straight to Batman v Superman" oh... wait...
@jonathanfranco8547
@jonathanfranco8547 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna make that same comparison. Also, nice last name.
@eduardofranco8528
@eduardofranco8528 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanfranco8547 thank you brother😉🤙🏾
@JohnSmith-xg9wx
@JohnSmith-xg9wx 4 жыл бұрын
Long story short: The main antagonist in X-Men: First Class should have been Mr. Sinister not Sebastian Shaw. If you've ever gone down the rabbit hole of what Bryan Singer's X-Men 3 would have been then you already know that he planned on using Emma Frost as the antagonist using empathy to manipulate The Phoenix. The story was very similar to what happens in Dark Phoenix so much so that it's easy to imagine Vuk and the D'bari as Emma and the Hellfire Club. I was thinking it in the theatre as I was watching as most X-Men fans were. They miscast Emma in First Class (January Jones was not the original actress cast in the role for the record), then killed her offscreen writing themselves into a hole. There definitely should have been one or two movies before Dark Phoenix establishing relationships and the team but it ultimately should have been the Hellfire Club vs. Lilandra (Jessica Chastain) and the Shi'ar vs. the X-Men fighting over Jean; the Hellfire Club wanting to harness the Phoenix Force, the Shi'ar wanting to destroy it and the X-Men trying to save Jean. Fox blew the story twice so I doubt we'll ever see another live action Dark Phoenix saga in our lifetime.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 жыл бұрын
They also killed off Nightcrawler's dad
@nyrotike8153
@nyrotike8153 4 жыл бұрын
4:41 Another reason why it doesn't matter that Magneto said Emma was dead, he also said Angel was dead in that scene but Angel was inexplicably alive in X-Men: Apocalypse.
@dohavename6775
@dohavename6775 4 жыл бұрын
If this is a joke, then haha If not, those are different Angels
@nyrotike8153
@nyrotike8153 4 жыл бұрын
@@dohavename6775 Are they different? How? Wasn't there only ever just the one Angel, but the timeline changes caused him to be born way earlier than he was in the original series?
@dohavename6775
@dohavename6775 4 жыл бұрын
@@nyrotike8153 Angel from First class is a fire-spitting lady with dragon-fly wings. Her alternate name in comics is Tempest. The one you know is a blonde dude with bird wings. They just happen to share an alias, since the guy, who was born later, didn't know the lady, even tho name suits him better.
@nyrotike8153
@nyrotike8153 4 жыл бұрын
@@dohavename6775 Ah, I see. I completely forgot she existed, to be honest.
@alexanderweber6885
@alexanderweber6885 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Angel Dust in Deadpool...
@mattbins
@mattbins 4 жыл бұрын
Jessica Chastain as Emma Frost would be perfect casting imo
@Slimemanorsomething
@Slimemanorsomething 4 жыл бұрын
When are you going to rewrite Shrek 3?
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Yung CheeZy also when is he finishing the Defenders rewrite and a Spider-Verse rewrite
@toxicmailman
@toxicmailman 4 жыл бұрын
Just delete it and put a baby montage at the beginning of 4. Oh wait
@discipleofsakura
@discipleofsakura 4 жыл бұрын
@@srstriker6420 Spider-verse doesn't need any rewrite.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
discipleofsakura now I know he can do it
@unknow11321
@unknow11321 4 жыл бұрын
cant change perfection
@rbertorammers9593
@rbertorammers9593 4 жыл бұрын
YES! Agree! “Why isn’t this Emma Frost?” My EXACT thoughts!
@yb554
@yb554 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Frost is awesome. I even have the old comics of hers. She's been such a missed opportunity. Selene, happy to hear about her being mentioned.
@patrickmike2524
@patrickmike2524 4 жыл бұрын
It’s like going from Avengers to Civil War Or BVS to Justice League
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Mike huh
@Drdoomerang
@Drdoomerang 4 жыл бұрын
Or Man of Steel to BvS
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Doomerang some parts yeah
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 4 жыл бұрын
They might as well go from Avengers to Civil War because Captain America and Iron Man were already fighting each other even before we got to Civil War.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
loudboy317 yeah so?
@ScottKorin
@ScottKorin 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta admit, when I saw the trailers, I thought Vuk WAS Emma Frost
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Korin or Jason Wyngrade
@rodrigobertini8257
@rodrigobertini8257 4 жыл бұрын
I genuinely enjoyed Dark Phoenix, and I accepted I'm one of two people who did (the second being the friend who watched it with me in the theater), but this change really elevates the movie for me, and it's a pretty simple change. Can't wait for the second video.
@zainhaddad4797
@zainhaddad4797 4 жыл бұрын
you two aren't the only one fella
@RappingNinja
@RappingNinja 4 жыл бұрын
Emma is actually my favorite X-Man. Super interesting as a redeemed hero. As a villain she was kinda..... eh..... for me.
@shealupkes
@shealupkes 4 жыл бұрын
Her best form is as an antagonist though, thr villain schtik doesn't work for her
@bambasbas6752
@bambasbas6752 4 жыл бұрын
Your story makes more sense! Now I wish that was the movie instead of what we saw.
@Jordacar
@Jordacar 4 жыл бұрын
I've been kicking around ideas to "fix" Dark Phoenix as well, and we definitely have some common ground there. My main thrust was similar, but I was going to replace Vuk with Selene, leading a revived Hellfire Club, and that's who Chastain would be playing. But the scenes you outlined were so perfect, I'm warming up to bringing back Emma. However, I would bring back January (I'm a softie and think she deserves another shot), while Chastain would still be Selene.
@liamwilson5670
@liamwilson5670 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of the inner circle, it should be called "the board" or something like a board of directors or something like that but it relates to chess.
@phredbookley183
@phredbookley183 4 жыл бұрын
"Emma Frost is awesome." Yes, yes she is. Would've loved to have seen her in the movie. Not to dump on Jessica Chastain, I like her in other stuff, but I absolutely did NOT like her in this.
@shealupkes
@shealupkes 4 жыл бұрын
If neither if the actors who played emma previously chastain would have been a fantastic choice, I'm so hurt that they wasted her
@igiveupfine
@igiveupfine 4 жыл бұрын
love the video as usual, but noice choice in music. i didnt even realize it was playing for so long. it just blended and worked with the video and your voiceover.
@master-of-many-fandoms2020
@master-of-many-fandoms2020 3 жыл бұрын
I love that he made us think he was going to end with just placing Emma but did a complete 180 and continued the video by telling the story of Dark Phoenix with Emma in it.
@Theraot
@Theraot 4 жыл бұрын
19:05 I think that is why they didn't use her. Why did they need a villain? Because movies have villains? Because Jean needed a place to go to after going to Erick? Because they wanted a big fight at the end? Yeah, Vuk has no Pathos, you can remove her and all the emotion of the movie is still there. She is there for the final fight.
@Glennstevenson822
@Glennstevenson822 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this and totally thought the same thing. Emma Frost would have made a lot more sense & could have motivated Jean a lot more organically. It would have been nice for January Jones to get a meatier role and it would make perfect sense that she could have faked her death - a lot more sense than her actually dying, tbh. Loved the conversation on telepathy, beautifully written.
@agentofchaos7456
@agentofchaos7456 3 жыл бұрын
That was the plan for this movie (and X3) but budget cuts happened.
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 жыл бұрын
Nah Jessica is a much better actor. Plus you could always say she changed her face to escape authorities
@nicholasallen5848
@nicholasallen5848 4 жыл бұрын
They really dropped the ball with emma especially in regards to scott and jean and that whole hoolabaloo. I adore jean grey, even have a tattoo of rachel greys phoenix symbol on my ribcage BUT emma is so so so badass
@Jose-se9pu
@Jose-se9pu 3 жыл бұрын
"The franchise ended with Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix" Logan: "am I a joke to you, bub?"
@user-vo2jo4vh4i
@user-vo2jo4vh4i 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@eniyodus3426
@eniyodus3426 4 жыл бұрын
this was phenomenal, i’ve been waiting for the video for so long 🥺
@FallenG0d
@FallenG0d 4 жыл бұрын
I was 100% more enthralled in your story in this video than I was in the movie. +1 subscriber ❤
@ChangedMyNameFinally69
@ChangedMyNameFinally69 2 жыл бұрын
Would've been cool if they revealed Azazel survived and had a child with Mystique: Kurt. Would've gave him a stake in the conflict too after learning his mother was killed by one of his best friends.
@digimaniacstudios5959
@digimaniacstudios5959 4 жыл бұрын
Great edit, during all the trailers I always assumed it was Emma Frost. Also it’s weird to me that Emma’s clothes seemingly disappear when she turns diamond in First Class
@infinitylantern2
@infinitylantern2 4 жыл бұрын
I am legitimately jealous of your writing ability and creativity. Keep it up, great vids.
@mdrglxix3699
@mdrglxix3699 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and awesome cliffhanger, can't wait for the second part
@nrnrn999
@nrnrn999 4 жыл бұрын
You had me 100% as soon as you put my girl Sage in. Most underrated X-Men character and I need more of her.
@flyingcaro
@flyingcaro 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this series. I really really tried to like the dark phoenix because I do like the actors and setting. But it wasted a lot of potential, which you are now working on showing! 😍
@skeletshoo
@skeletshoo 4 жыл бұрын
Idk how you do it but whenever you propose some small changement like that it always sounds so amazing. Emma Frost as a villain sounds just so cool ? I wish the movie would have been like that !
@fortunatesoul12
@fortunatesoul12 4 жыл бұрын
I am surprised and glad to hear you like the X Men so much, cant wait to see pther rewrites. Cheers mate
@DarthRue17
@DarthRue17 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you made both this and Apocalypse way better by one small change
@eniyodus3426
@eniyodus3426 4 жыл бұрын
this was incredible but i NEED a full rewrite, thank you:)
@phoqueme
@phoqueme 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even halfway done with this video and you ALREADY perfected the movie for me 🤣 very well done mate
@sweeneagle16
@sweeneagle16 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought Vuk was Mr. Sinister in female form until the alien thing was revealed. Mr. Sinister is pretty cool, so I never understood why they slept on him. At least now Marvel can hopefully use him in the future whenever X-men stuff comes into play.
@milesparker557
@milesparker557 4 жыл бұрын
No one: Nando: not to nitpick... *Proceeds to nitpick...
@pavarottiaardvark3431
@pavarottiaardvark3431 4 жыл бұрын
Sophie Turner was potentially AMAZING casting for Jean Grey and it's a real pity she didn't get better movies.
@phoqueme
@phoqueme 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your reasoning for the secondary mutation is pretty awesome! Similar to how in Naruto, the Mangekyou Sharingan is different for each Uchiha because it's a manifestation of their inner pain and struggle
@thepoliticalstartrek
@thepoliticalstartrek 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing the Dark Phoenix movies are missing is The Dark Pheonix. Make the white haired alien the Dark Phoenix entity as a personality.
@robertkreutzer4107
@robertkreutzer4107 4 жыл бұрын
Have I told you that I really love your work? Yup. But I REALLY LOVE YOUR WORK! Great ideas - though I think we can do better than JC on the casting for Emma Frost. Can't wait for part II.
@varunnayak9502
@varunnayak9502 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Nando! Great Video. Just one suggestion, If a video is part of a 2 videos series, then please mention it in the title. It would be better to watch it together. Cheers!
@PanAndScanBuddy
@PanAndScanBuddy 4 жыл бұрын
I need to know more about that cable knit sweater you're sporting, Nando. I also loved Knives Out.
@Onioncapped
@Onioncapped 4 жыл бұрын
This video articulated everything I have been feeling since the movie came out. Some amazing concept art of the hellfire club was released today, suggesting that your theory is totally on point.
@jamall7003
@jamall7003 4 жыл бұрын
5:36 aww missed opportunity to say "Vuk gives no Vuks about having a personality"
@mr.moviemafia
@mr.moviemafia Жыл бұрын
I think we could easily imagine this as our head-cannon, except for the inclusion of Roberto DeCosta in the Hellfire Club. He’s a young man who ends up helping the future timeline in DOFP and gets locked up at Essex Corps. in The New Mutants
@smoogieboogie1694
@smoogieboogie1694 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely thought Poochy’s inclusion in Days of Future Past was the highlight of that movie. Thank you for acknowledging it.
@babyvision6924
@babyvision6924 4 жыл бұрын
“It hurt me that my favorite franchise ended with apocalypse and dark phoenix” Logan: am I a joke to you?
@suede2009
@suede2009 4 жыл бұрын
I can dig this change to the story... But where’s the last episode of the Defenders rewrite? You’re leaving me in suspense!
@hibiscusman
@hibiscusman 4 жыл бұрын
Man... I can't keep watching your videos. They just make me lament that your version won't ever exist, and it would be awesome if they could.
@ikeekieeki
@ikeekieeki 3 жыл бұрын
i subscribed to your channel halfway through this video. thank you for this idea
@I_Am_Nique
@I_Am_Nique 4 жыл бұрын
Funny I ran across this video because I saw on comicbookmovie.com a new version of the Hellfire Club was going to be in this film. The members included Emma, Shinobi Shaw, Leland, Red Lotus Gang and I think someone else. However I like your fixes what I would add is they go with the ultimate storyline and that Jean is the host for the Phoenix god that has risen over the millennia in a certain telepath. Thus they could’ve introduced the Church of Shi’ar, Lilandra and a few members of the Imperial Guard.
@adamkramer18
@adamkramer18 4 жыл бұрын
This is a really fun movie pitch! love it Nando!
@robertmckinnon7003
@robertmckinnon7003 4 жыл бұрын
Emma didn't have her secondary mutation during the time of The Phoenix Saga (the first story). Or, even if you keep her into the Dark Phoenix Saga. Also, her powers weren't (at the time) on the level of the Professor or Jean. Neither were Masterminds. But, he was using a device to boost them. And space is very important to both stories. Space is where we encounter the Phoenix Force for the first time. It's in space that Phoenix commits her great crime of murdering an entire planet. The real problem of these two tellings of these two Sagas; is the fact that they are Sagas; and they're trying to force these two epics into a singular movies that tells one story.
@michaelwilliamson7590
@michaelwilliamson7590 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly done!
@c3r6s9
@c3r6s9 4 жыл бұрын
they showed bits of the bar scene in the trailers and i was so excited, despite myself, to see emma frost. i also had this idea that they might personify the phoenix force and have it talk to jean through that actress. neither of those things panned out and instead they made it boring aliens! lol
@nokiahmotorz01
@nokiahmotorz01 4 жыл бұрын
In the comics, the D'bari are one of the many races whose planet was destroyed by the Phoenix Force but other than that, they seem really different to what we saw in the movie. I mean Vuk's claim to fame seems to be that one time he(yes, he) turned most of the Avengers to stone. So...why use them in the first place? If they're going to be so significantly changed, why not any of the other hordes of alien races that have closer ties to the X-Men if they wanted to go the whole alien route?
@BeastlyHaxorz
@BeastlyHaxorz 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized Dark Phoenix is pretty much the only super hero movie I haven't seen in like 10 years. And I'm content with that.
@agentofchaos7456
@agentofchaos7456 3 жыл бұрын
Just because the villains were different from the original story.
@harrissyed1417
@harrissyed1417 4 жыл бұрын
To be quite frank, there was actually concept art released by someone on Instagram that showed the Hellfire Club a very comic accurate version to be precise were going to show up in X-Men: Dark Phoenix. Plus if I were writing X-Men: Dark Phoenix I would have added the Hellfire Club and the Shi'ar Empire respectively as part of the film in the same roles they occupy in the comics that would make for a far better adaptation that we actually got.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Harris Syed and make Jason Wyngrade the main antagonist?
@jamesdouglas6776
@jamesdouglas6776 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing man!!! Your mind is sick!!!
@Maggoz777
@Maggoz777 4 жыл бұрын
One minute into the video and i'm already like, "Dark Phoenix was so bad that even Nando says he can't fix it all the way through, geez".
@Maggoz777
@Maggoz777 4 жыл бұрын
Well, as expected You delivered already,so part two is going to be only more improvement. Noice
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Manuel González well I would asked the same for spider Verse and the 2015 fantastic four movie
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 4 жыл бұрын
Hes being modest, he could totally fix it
@abn3r507
@abn3r507 3 жыл бұрын
I need to take a tequila shot everytime Nandos says Vuk in this video🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@yaloolah42
@yaloolah42 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the alien headquarters in NY the first time I saw the movie, I audibly gasped because I automatically thought it WAS the Hellfire Club and things were about to get awesome.... then I remembered that they'd already died
@robertangus616
@robertangus616 4 жыл бұрын
Emma Frost is definitely the arch-nemesis of Jean Grey
@ekx5120
@ekx5120 4 жыл бұрын
Agree, she could even be proVUKative with Scott to trigger Jean, but it'd be more believable if she was closer to her age I suppose.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Angus but what about Mr Sinister?
@lucasiglesias1894
@lucasiglesias1894 4 жыл бұрын
This "small" change already makes the movie 100 times better. I would've gone for Psylocke as one of the knights instead of Spitfire though
@constructivecriticism2568
@constructivecriticism2568 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I’ve only been saying this for years!!
@doublefeatures6312
@doublefeatures6312 4 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see the original final battle before it underwent heavy reshoots
@jaystargaming172
@jaystargaming172 4 жыл бұрын
16:49 u could have them playing chess and her noding to her queen chess piece saying its a higher power because of well its power{kinda like that}u could say she invites her to play chess to almost clear her mind or get her mind off of wat happend making her focus on their conversation more intensly
@ScottKorin
@ScottKorin 4 жыл бұрын
Nando rocking the Knives Out sweater
@shaliquemartin2802
@shaliquemartin2802 4 жыл бұрын
Your Thor run through is awesome.
4 жыл бұрын
Your Inner Circle pitch reminds me a lot of the Second Foundation from Asimov's Foundation series
@thwipkid
@thwipkid 4 жыл бұрын
Nando what weapon would you choose for the zombie apocalypse?
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 4 жыл бұрын
Shotgun-axe
@thwipkid
@thwipkid 4 жыл бұрын
Nando v Movies full on Mac enthusiast I guess.
@Isiah61
@Isiah61 4 жыл бұрын
I know a lot people didn’t like Jones as this role but I actually loved her!
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 4 жыл бұрын
Same i thought she was great, looked great too
@calirhoades6126
@calirhoades6126 4 жыл бұрын
what frustrates me is we were SO close to getting the hellfire club and emma frost in dark phoenix but the fox/disney deal ruined it.
@agentofchaos7456
@agentofchaos7456 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t really the deal that ruined it. That happened long before Disney even knew Fox wanted to sell the studio.
@walmartclothes0142
@walmartclothes0142 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos a lot
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@nonspiderweb
@nonspiderweb 4 жыл бұрын
@NandovMovies you should do a pitch for bringing the x men into the MCU like your ant man 3 pitch. I'm curious to see what you'd come up with. Would Mutants have always been a thing that no ones talked about yet? would they be more secretive and unheard of? or would they only now start showing up? I'd love to hear you thoughts.
@andrewgilbertson5672
@andrewgilbertson5672 4 жыл бұрын
"It would be as if you went straight from Avengers to Civil War; there are no relationships built up, and it would feel rushed." *coughBatmanVSupermanandJusticeLeaguecough*
@agentofchaos7456
@agentofchaos7456 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t really think that is a valid complaint since this movie is mostly based on issues before Jean became the Dark Phoenix.
@davidhuey3815
@davidhuey3815 4 жыл бұрын
One question. Where did you get that music for the scene between Emma and Jean?
@buzzbuzz20xx
@buzzbuzz20xx 4 жыл бұрын
What's the song that starts at 12:09 I couldn't find it on epedemic sound
@mikegould6590
@mikegould6590 3 жыл бұрын
Not using the White Queen angle is a complete loss on the part of Fox.
@astonbean
@astonbean 4 жыл бұрын
"Luckily this is a two part series" Nooooo... I want the answer now :'(
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Mossy Wolf I know right
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 4 жыл бұрын
He could've made this a 45min-1hr long video and i bet i'd still want more after it ended
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
houzcat yeah and I got some request for him to do
@andrewi.crocker8675
@andrewi.crocker8675 4 жыл бұрын
Another easy way to explain Emma Frost not aging is to do what they did in Old Man Logan. In that she did age, but since she could make illusions she still appears young
@MrDman21
@MrDman21 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, there's NO fixing the Dark Phoenix. XD
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
MrDman21 maybe it was never work in films
@The_Notorious_N.O.E.
@The_Notorious_N.O.E. 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone help me identify the piano music playing in the background at 13:36 ? What is the name of the piece?
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