Anything I had to do for the next 15 minutes will have to wait now.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Haha... Thanks!
@lazaglider7 жыл бұрын
You could make an hour long documentary about watching paint dry and I would watch it twice. The presentation here, as always, is masterful. A friend and, if such a thing exists, legend within the air gun community here in the U.K has a very interesting take on shooting groups. As a hunter, he preferred not to shoot groups on card, beyond the occasional zero check. His theory was that, as a hunter, he needed his rifle to hit the target first time. If he had trust in his gear, and backed his own ability, that would suffice. He argued that, given the extra complications that air rifle marksmanship carries, it is quite possible to come to doubt your zero when shooting a group. Say, if the wind pushes a couple astray, you will begin to doubt. He kept things simple, and goodness it worked for him.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. For one shot applications, knowing where your first round is going, out of a cold barrel, with no fouling (obviously not a consideration in air rifle) is of paramount importance, for sure. As for the paint drying, you will be spared.... I am definitely not an interior decorator... nor am I any good at watercolours...
@evandaire14497 жыл бұрын
Ah, but have you not heard of the glories of the British land pattern 1895 "bleeding for England" colors and its use in the great boer war? 😂
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
I seem to have missed that one...... :-)
@lazaglider7 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders It is an interesting subject. I've seen shooters arrive at a competition and despite a vicious cross wind, insist on checking their zero. Without fail, they then do poorly in the comp, having completely screwed their zero, and having no means to address it as during their round, rules state no alteration of scope/sight settings. On a similar note, air rifles are far more hold-sensitive than other types. So no point zeroing off a rest and expecting things to go well when shooting off hand. The more I think about it, the old chap really did know what he was talking about! Anyway, I digress.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Checking zero in a crosswind?.... Mmmm.... isn't the point of zeroing your rifle to give you foundation from which to make changes? Especially in a wind? It shoots straight without wind, so with wind you can make changes from that zero. As for the rest, as I am sure you are aware, it minimizes the difference by using it to support your hand rather than the rifle. By keeping the hand in the same place on the forestock as you would if shooting unsupported, it also minimizes differences. I suppose that air rifle is quite popular over your way, is it?
@Timba1867 жыл бұрын
I love how the quality of your videos has gone up so much, it's lovely seeing a channel evolve and grow. Keep it up!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I am enjoying the learning process.
@Sheerwater9097 жыл бұрын
Another fascinating look into the world of Victorian military shooting. You continue, sir, to put many BBC presenters to shame with your narrative skills. I am putting down those two short-range misses to it being one of your many identical brothers (Rab, Reb, Rib, Rub or Ryb perhaps) being the shooter. :D
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, John. Yeah, he's not quite the shot I am.....ahem!..... :-)
@petermartini83467 жыл бұрын
That was a great video, cannot wait for part #2. I wish I had seen this 4 years ago when I was struggling with trying to come up with a accurate load for my Snider...oh well. There is I think some things that I should redo in light of this with my new Mk.III. It was interesting to see you repeat some things that I did. For example one session (& by mistake) I forgot to put in the card wad between the powder & filler. To my surprise the groups were all tighter in that session :) so that wad was for some reason a detriment in my rifle anyway. Great stuff, thanks Rob.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
It really is about trying all kinds of things. I have found (like you), in Snider shooting, the simpler the better. Cheers.
@MrRedbeard7627 жыл бұрын
An excellent thesis on reloading in general and a superior instruction on reloading for the Snider in specific. Thank you for the research and hard work.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome! Thank you.
@andygardner92197 жыл бұрын
Get in!!! He's back!!! Polish your bayonets ! ( that's not a euphemism !) FIIIRE!!! I don't own anything like this firearm,however I find this incredibly interesting . I seem to be a frustrated gun geek! 🔫🔫🔫. Piew piw piw!!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...
@andygardner92197 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders where is episode 2? You've had at least seven minutes! More than enough time to produce exceptional shooting footage & technical reloading theory & practice! Great channel mate! Twelvety out of ten.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Haha... it's coming.
@neilmoulden53237 жыл бұрын
Your making Victorian rifle aficionados out of us all. Cracking job.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
One at a time!... Cheers!
@pikeywyatt7 жыл бұрын
look foreword to next part's Thanks.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
It's in the editing room now... :-)
@sqike001ton7 жыл бұрын
an old finklock guy I know said that the volume measures were calibrated for ffff as that is most powder. and all lower f will be less its built in safety
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
For every shooter, there is a story. The bottom line is that a grain is a measure of weight. .... :-)
@sqike001ton7 жыл бұрын
true true i always figured the 4f thing made since tho i have not looked for any conformation but i guess it woulds be a good rule of thumb
@frankb88987 жыл бұрын
I am always amazed by the effort you place in the making of this videos. As usual an outstanding job and a well deserved "thank you" for such a show of knowledge and passion on what you do!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome. Cheers.
@shiftygoose72307 жыл бұрын
Good work again. Just wish someone as good as you would do all that for the Mauser family.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't own any Mausers... "Germanmuzzleloaders" does a similar series..... wouldn't that be great, eh?... :-)
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Say that five times quickly.... :-)
@jamie18thmo737 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another really informative and excellently presented video Rob. Having just got myself a Snider short rifle, this is going to be watched again and again, I'm sure. Looking forward to the next instalment.
@tw2038097 жыл бұрын
awesome!......as usual. you are, by far, my favorite channel on youtube
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
You are very kind, thank you.
@mrbikehunter7 жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed watching you put at least 1000 rounds through your Snider. When you need to refresh the rifling it would make for another great video but its 150 years old now I may not live that long ? Cheers
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Ooo,.. you know, I haven't counted, but the rifling is standing proud!
@TexasLeverGunner4 жыл бұрын
Living vicariously thru you until I can get to the range in the morning with my Mk2* to start fire-forming brass. I find 5 rounds is a nice compromise with load development in my trapdoor. It's hot here in SE Texas now, and I dread having to cast bullets anymore than I have to. Short and sweet load development!
@britishmuzzleloaders4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Having a great time!
@duncanandrews19407 жыл бұрын
Think I'm going to put you forward for an OSCAR my lad..............great job!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
An OSCAR - Meyer wiener is probably all it's worth. (North American joke) Thanks for the kind sentiment Duncan.
@arthurdukeofwellington3617 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoy these videos. Never would I guess that I would find myself so interested in a colonial talking about Victorian Rifles! You've certainly broadened my interests. Video quality is also noticeably better with each upload. Thank you so much
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them. Colonial?..... c'mon,......nobody likes labels,.... especially limeys... :-)
@sandstorm19347 жыл бұрын
On Sunday morning I said to my partner "Hmm, I haven't seen any youtube offerings from Rob lately" she laughed said "he must be busy with something". She was right. Thanks for putting together another informative and very well presented video.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome. Glad you enjoyed it! Took a bit longer to get things together this time... What with the holidays and all... Thanks for the interest, my friend!
@versal3397 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for another great presentation. Let me compliment you on something. Your speaking ability is really outstanding. No searching for words, no "eh, uh, hum" or any hesitation. Believe me folks this is nearly impossible to teach and even harder to perfect. It makes your videos very easy to watch and it allows you to concentrate on the subject matter. Great job.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hugh. It's not all off the cuff though,.... well the whole thing isn't off the cuff. I typically record sentences and phrases... as much as I can remember at one time. I often use a script for the longer bits,... intros and such so that things roll along cleanly. It's for the very reasons you give that I prefer to do it that way. Concise delivery,... detailed, but not rambling. That's what I aim for. Cheers.
@minutemanqvs7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should add a warning about "hard" or "blocking" fillers...they should never be used in bottleneck cartridges, only in straight wall ones like you are using.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion.
@jodiecourtland8717 жыл бұрын
Came here from forgotten weapons. Your channel IS GREATLY under rated! Very good video!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! And thanks to Ian for kindly including the Channel in his video!
@DNchap14176 жыл бұрын
If I got this right: 1f is for cannon and other artillery pieces: 2f is for rifles and shotguns, 3f is for handguns and 4f is for priming pans? I thought 3f has lower pressures than 1f and 2f...
@britishmuzzleloaders6 жыл бұрын
Nominally..... the more "F's" the finer the granulation and the faster the burn. Higher pressures with 3F, that's why you don't need as much... cleaner in my experience too..
@mattarmstrong92057 жыл бұрын
Great video! Your channel must be one of the more comprehensive studies of this particular topic by now. Keep up the good work your doing a great historical service here
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt. Victorian Historical Shooting is a bit of a niche topic... :-).... fun, though it is.
@matthewoconnell26297 жыл бұрын
I just about flew out of my chair when I saw you had just uploaded another video on the Snider-Enfield! Another great video!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
"STEADY THE BUFFS"...
@davidtodd58387 жыл бұрын
I use your videos while i am doing my illustrations, I don't mean this to be offensive but they are great background music ..... I do also watch them haha
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Please use them any way you see fit, David! Cheers.
@notarokescientist30033 жыл бұрын
you are nothing if not methodical
@Gunnut357mag7 жыл бұрын
have you ever tried goex's Olde eynesford powder? I load 41 Swiss, 10.4 italian, 11mm beaumont, 11mm gras, and 45-70 with it with fantastic results. almost no fouling what so ever. No added graphite so it matches what was used and considered top shelf powder in the mid to late 1800's. I have converted many people who swore by swiss to it. I will shoot an entire silhouette match with it and never clean the gun and not have any accuracy degradation.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
I have not. I'll ask my supplier about his ability to get some. I have heard of it but never tried it. Thanks for the suggestion!
@Gunnut357mag7 жыл бұрын
well worth the little extra money. I notice much more consistent velocities to. Also clean up is a breeze. 4 sets of wet/dry patches then oil and clean! can't beat it
@davidseale76017 жыл бұрын
I find these videos so interesting. Thank you so much. Out of interest what is your newest historical weapon?
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Glad they agree with you. It's this one! I realized that I had never documented the work up of a rifle before and, as I find it an interesting (if exhaustive) process, I thought that this would be a good opportunity to show how I do things. Cheers.
@kaidog95287 жыл бұрын
you videos are so much more than you shooting your wad and combustible fillers. well done. shall we dispense with glasses.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Yes, bin the glasses, chuck the wad and light that filler on fire.
@ahmedexmor7 жыл бұрын
if only you were my teacher! i have no interest in guns and I've watched it all, nicely presented..
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
That is a wonderful compliment. Thank you.
@EldarKinSlayer7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, presenting the beginning of a systematic shooting system.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gregorywernke83237 жыл бұрын
Another superb video. Just saw part one and part two together. Lots of great info presented - as usual.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@blueband81147 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, been looking forward to you posting. Roll on part 2.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
It's coming!
@chriswhite30357 жыл бұрын
Although it has been said i will repeat. Great video. Love the info. I started my love of black powder shooting with my flintlock. I am now looking at purchasing a black powder cartridge gun. This is how i found your channel. What would be your recommendation for my first Black powder cartridge gun. I would like to make my own ammo. I was thinking the Martini Henry. Any advice would be welcomed
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
I would say that the Snider is easier to load for. If you have the time, you might watch both reloading series, the three part Martini and the two part Snider. It might give you some insight into what is involved in the reloading for both rifles. That said, it really doesn't matter as you will end up with both anyway... :-)
@chriswhite30357 жыл бұрын
Thanks I will be going to some local gun shows soon. I will be on the lookout for either. I saw a martini shotgun and almost picked it up. It was such a good looking gun but i want to hold out for a rifle. Thanks again
@stephansnider29827 жыл бұрын
Only one word comes to my mind....Huzzah!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@pmjn09437 жыл бұрын
yet another very interesting video, looking forward to part 2.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Cheers.
@ukusagent7 жыл бұрын
Hi I didn't see it But do you Drop tube your powder , I found it advantageous when loading for my 45-70 Sharps
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
HI there. Although the powder drops through a tube, it's not what you would call "drop tubing"... The main purpose of doing that is to get it all into the case (in your case, the 45-70). If you didn't, it would be exceptionally difficult, if not impossible to get all the powder into the case. With the Snider, (and the Martini) the opposite is the case. Too much room, hence the fillers.
@ukusagent7 жыл бұрын
Thanks , Most excellent insight , Now you say it its obvious , I did see a video of someone drop tubing on large cases , saying he thought he possibly got a more consistent powder burn , But its possibly more in the mind than actual results , And when you I suppose hit the right worked up load , you pretty much don't want to change anything you did
@v220587 жыл бұрын
Ah the G D I missed the target at close range dance, I know it well
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Wait,.... that was prior to zeroing!.... no really, it was!
@albundy81397 жыл бұрын
Simply the best channel on the internet, fantastic content!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Oh come now..... :-).... Glad you enjoy things.
@DarthMercanto7 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the kind of sight profile we should aim for (pun intended ;P) when aiming at a target less then 100 yards away? :)
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Generally, say at 50yds, if you've zeroed at 100yds with a full sight, then a fine sight might do. Otherwise you'll have to aim off below your target.
@DarthMercanto7 жыл бұрын
Ah! That makes sense! I took my Springfield M1861 for some 25 yard target shooting for the first time this week. I was surprised to find that, unless I fired slightly bellow my target (a Confederate plastic bottle), I would overshoot. I was wondering if it was because the rifle is sited for 100 yards, your video (and response) seem to have confirmed that! Thanks! :)
@rollo88477 жыл бұрын
Rather depressing that making your own ammunition is a criminal offence here in the UK, the birthplace of this piece of history.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
So how do all my acquaintances who shoot these and Martinis in the UK get away with it?
@katharinetaylor49797 жыл бұрын
I doubt its an offense but some police put quota on ammounts kept nor can you fire it without a firearms certificate on approuved ranges . no back paddocks like in NZ Rudyard
@hildebrandtvongreunhagen76017 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, Nice as always. I can not await part two... Every time I enter KZbin I close my eyes and then look if you uploaded a new video. :-) Your Videos are like professional documentaries. Now to what I intended to ask: Your bullet grease seems so simple. What is the exact task of bullet grease and what brought you to choose only beeswax and cooking oil (if I'm right...) ? Thanks! Valentin
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Hi Valentin. Thank you for your very kind words. The lubricant keeps the fouling soft. By doing this, the rifle is able to maintain a certain degree of consistency in its shooting. Without lubricant, the fouling is very hard, and would coat the inside of the barrel, filling the rifling. It also has the task of lessening the resistance of the bullet as it travels down the barrel... After all, you are pushing a (soft) metal object down a metal tube.... metal on metal always works better with some sort of lubricant. As for the recipe, it is very common to use beeswax and some sort of grease (organic rather than petroleum). Vegetable shortening is what I typically use but I have used olive oil (more expensive) for the same purpose. You can always add all kins of other things (for black powder shooting most commonly organic stuff) like lanolin, other kinds of oils, tallow and such...
@hildebrandtvongreunhagen76017 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick response! All you said seems evident... I am very interested and may want to make some experiments to optimize the mixture and maybe replace the beeswax with a cheaper alternative like sheabutter. However I just do not know the criteria and the characteristic the beeswax or the potential replacement has (that makes it convenient for the task). What exactly is the substance that softens the fouling? In a forum I read that e.g. the moisture content in the Lube is important for this task. To sum up my problem in an example: I like to put lanolin into the Lube mixture - but I do not know why I should do so. What makes it suitable for the lube? Thanks!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for the chemical reason the lube works, I can't tell you. The grease and the wax work in tandem. The grease has better performance but is messy and will run in warmer weather.... Add wax to stiffen it.... However, they both have solvent qualities. For instance, pure beeswax was used on later Enfield cartridges after they reduced the diameter of the bullet. I have found that pure beeswax doesn't do the job either in the Enfield or others such as the Martini, in the way that grease, or a mixture, does. I use straight shortening (melted) as the lube for patches for my Baker rifle and can shoot all day with no problems.... This only work with the Baker as the patches hold the grease well.
@ilMaori7 жыл бұрын
About the Crimean war: british troops used enfield p1851 or p1853?
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Both.
@ilMaori7 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders thank you! great video!
@jamie18thmo737 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another really informative and excellently presented video Rob. Having just got myself a Snider short rifle, this is going to be watched again and again, I'm sure. Looking forward to the next instalment.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
That is great! If you haven't seen the reloading series for the Snider yet, you might want to give it a gander. Might be of some help. If you already have, .... thanks for watching!
@jamie18thmo737 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders Yes, those videos are great. I love that you can do most of it by hand. I'll have to get an xring mould now.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Loading for the Snider is the hidden gem in the black power cartridge world..
@squidgypoppet7 жыл бұрын
where do you find these classic Rifles?
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Friends, antique dealers, other places online....
@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын
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@britishmuzzleloaders Жыл бұрын
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@mediocrefunkybeat7 жыл бұрын
From my work I can hear the gunfire from the Hythe rifle ranges. It's odd to think that these Snider rifles had exactly this testing performed on them within earshot of my workplace. Thanks as ever, Rob.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
I was just there in September. Had to get a shot of a Martello Tower on the beach!... That and the Musketry School,.... er,.... Sainsbury's
@mediocrefunkybeat7 жыл бұрын
Yes... shame about that Sainsbury's... My workplace has an old Martello Tower on site, sadly it's unsafe to enter... Hope you had a good time down there, it's full of odd little places.
@duncanandrews19407 жыл бұрын
Hythe ranges - memories oh memories!
@keithmoore73907 жыл бұрын
ever notice that alloy hardness had an effect? I had an old front stuffer once that for some reason just liked a softer slug? never could figure that out? I've seen a couple other guns like that as well. might be an area to consider as well?
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it is yet another variable. I tried a 20-1 lead-tin alloy and found that it did no better (or maybe a bit worse) than pure lead. For the extra effort and expense (tin is pricey) it was not worth it at all.
@453421abcdefg123457 жыл бұрын
Keith Moore: For a muzzle loader you can only use soft lead, this is because the projectile has to be able to go down the barrel when loading, if it were hard, it would not obturate enough to take the rifling, for a cartridge rifle this is not a problem as the projectiles are at groove diameter plus .001", this size projectile would be impossible to load into a muzzle loader for obvious reasons.
@keithmoore73907 жыл бұрын
Englishman French I've seen at lest 2 black powder cartridge rifles that were the same way, they preferred a softer alloy as well for some reason, 2 identical rifles on the range, but the one just liked a softer lead? I don't know I've got a couple of pistols that just hate Remington ammo to boot maybe when some old timer tells you that some guns have a soul they're right?
@jericho94167 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the 1837 Brunswick rifles? Been eyeing one recently. Bullets are pretty neat.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Careful if you are looking at the IMA versions. They are not Ordnance pattern (British manufactured) and were made in Nepal. They are typically poorly done with wonky rifling both in pitch and depth... If it is a British one in good condition, then go for it... they are very rare but will be made well. For bullets, contact Jeff Tanner in the UK. He does very reasonably priced moulds for them with the belting...
@jericho94167 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was looking at the IMA ones. Sigh...Thanks for the information. Guess I will just keep my eyes peeled for a proper made one for now.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
They are out there. Be prepared for the hunt.
@AlfJDale7 жыл бұрын
Ahhh,i like it! Thanks Rob!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@Wabaanimkii7 жыл бұрын
Awesome vidya as always.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thecanuckredcoat41427 жыл бұрын
Just in time, I was running out of coffee.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you didn't need any more after watching... :-)
@thecanuckredcoat41427 жыл бұрын
I think I'll be good for the next few days... probably :p
@M80Ball7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TwentythreePER7 жыл бұрын
Another quality video, sir. I'm looking forward to part two.
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@babalonkie7 жыл бұрын
I envy your life lol Good video :)
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! My life is pretty ordinary, really... Cheers.
@babalonkie7 жыл бұрын
To me, it's a dream lol Keep up the videos, We love them!
@stsk77 жыл бұрын
i thought you were talking like this as a joke at first...
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Yeah....
@stsk77 жыл бұрын
+britishmuzzleloaders just a tad bit nerdy maybe?
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
You are obviously a good judge of this quality in people.
@stsk77 жыл бұрын
britishmuzzleloaders really?
@DarthMercanto7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@britishmuzzleloaders7 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@katharinetaylor49797 жыл бұрын
Rob your a positive gem ,wonderful series of videos .Hope to see you at Richards shoot Rudyard