The Mk3 DISSENT - A Closer Look w/8.6 BLK

[@killersp1974]

Glad to see they kept the 1:3 Twist rate Not mentioned on VID; I had to see it listed on the website and about 2K$$$

[@TheBlacksmith5]

Which, to be fair, is a lot cheaper than other 8.6blk guns on the market

[@soonerfrac4611]

While I tend to agree, let’s look at the entire spectrum of the Dissent lineup. Virtually all are over 1800, and all the adult sized frames are 20-21. Should it be better for what you’re paying? Probably. But it’s in the same ballpark as the rest of them.

[@TheBlacksmith5]

@soonerfrac4611 most 8.6 guns available are in the 3k-3200+, so 33% off is great. Plus having more companies invested in the caliber will incentivise more companies to jump in. So I'll cheer everytime a company joins in, especially larger companies. Because I want this round, and the technology in it, to succeed and become plentiful.

[@soonerfrac4611]

@TheBlacksmith5 Same here. IMO there’s zero reason why it should be as expensive as it has been. Nothing has changed except the diameter and the twist rate. I guess in theory it would require a rifling machine dedicated to it, or possibly a delay every time you make a batch of barrels. But even that seems trivial. Unfortunately, as good as this round could be, I just don’t see it taking off without some major purchase by a department or big name manufacturers start really pushing it.

[@TheBlacksmith5]

@soonerfrac4611 I think the main reason it's been so expensive is due to the fact it's *technically* a wildcat without SAAMI approval. So only boutique brands have hopped in so far. Q is always expensive, Faxon is on the higher end as well, GQ Armory is as high as Q, and basically everything else is custom work. CMMG is by no means an affordable brand either, but they're the first prominent company to take up the caliber.

[@mgriffin12]

Just went ahead and submitted this to the Maryland "Handgun" roster. Will grab one as soon as its approved! Been waiting on a good 8.6 to hit the market (didn't want to barrel swap something else) and of course CMMG gets it done. Will compliment my 10mm Banshee nicely

[@mikefix1584]

That sucks you life in a communist state bro.

[@mgriffin12]

@@mikefix1584 weird thing to say

[@JD-do8dw]

wow absolutely love it, def gonna go on my CMMG wishlist

[@Just_a_guy093]

i want this so bad....i will be getting this 12.5 inch 8.6... yes please

[@e.l.robbins5614]

I’ve been waiting on the Q Boombox in 8.6, but idk when it’s gonna get to market. It’s a couple lbs lighter, but that could be a problem. I’ve got 3 CMMG dissents guns. 9mm, 300 blackout, 6arc. I’m definitely a fan, so I believe I’ll check this out.

[@IsaiahEstep]

YESSSS!!! Now just make a 8.5” barrel version

[@z3ntropy]

was waitin for this :)

[@TroyMRooni]

@CMMG do you guys plan to do an 8” barrel 8.6BLK Dissent?

[@LTTUSA]

She’s definitely a beauty!

[@johnturrill1345]

Any design upgrades to prevent shroud separation a few KZbinrs saw on the MK47?

[@CMMG]

There was only one that happened to, and he followed up stating that we replaced his handguard. His was a one off early prototype that was accidentally installed instead of the production units. There have been none other than that one.

[@johnturrill1345]

@@CMMG thanks for the reply. Yeah just wanted your take since that one vid had popped up in my research. I bought a Dissent last week and cant wait to take it to the range. Grand Thumb did a test on one that seemed recent and went to 6k rounds with no notable issues.

[@timb8970]

Happy to see it doesn’t cost $3k and up.

[@stevis182]

⁠what if you want to run supersonic ammo one day and subsonic the next? Don’t have to readjust the gas block using a tool every time? A tool less gas block would have been clutch here like the scar, Tavor 7, etc use

[@spacecoastmed]

I have a Banshee 300 Mk 10 that has been an absolute wonder to shoot, several thousand rounds through it with zero problems. I'm sure this Dissent will be the same quality. I want an 8.6 soon just not sure which I really want to buy other than it will be a CMMG.

[@lees907]

I got a few of your products, I’m waiting to see if you come out with a 300 win mag. I’d love to put one under the tree next Christmas for myself.

[@grimly105]

I want one of these so bad.

[@bairrfhionndalcassian5181]

Looks great 👍🏻 are the different calibres just a barrel swap, or is there more to that?

[@jakefalcons]

When I move from Washington this is going to be at the top of the buy list!

[@grimly105]

Can you not get this in Washington state?

[@SaikoW1]

​@@grimly105Lol

[@sieve5]

We need a 510 whisper now that the 8.6 has gotten so much attention.

[@ravissary79]

That doesn't fit in an ar10 or ar15. But I did notice that Q just made a prototype fix in 375 ruger. That might have a sufficient magwell to load 510 whisper (or a different competing design). At the very least it could load a double stack of 458 socom with long loaded bullets.

[@rayhradek3294]

What suppressor are you using?

[@CMMG]

You'll have to wait to see... 😉

[@stevis182]

Do you have to adjust the gas block between supers and subs? Without a quick change gas block that’s a dealbreaker for me if you have to adjust it everytime whereas 300 blk you adjust to cycle with subs supressed and it will shoot fine supers supressed or unsupressed

[@CMMG]

Just adjust it for your specific round, and you should be good for suppressed or non.

[@Steve-yo4ld]

I'd be happy to see this in 338 Federal!✌️

[@kenmorrison1725]

What's the accuracy like on the Diseent?

[@nathanwhite5602]

Cool video

[@0zmose]

I'm guessing everyone here swooning over the price of the gun, haven't bothered checking the price of ammo. It will set you back $50-$60 just to load up one mag.

[@lefunnyN1]

interesting to see a di system that is not just another ar15

[@ijsk7930]

How does it sound unsuppressed without any ear pro?

[@CMMG]

Don't know that any of us have tried that... intentionally. lol

[@ijsk7930]

@@CMMG that’s a legitimate question, we’re not allowed suppressors up here in Canada so I’m genuinely curious.

[@CMMG]

@@ijsk7930 Too many variables to give a good answer, and the sound is going to be subjective to different people. There are multiple loads and different barrel lengths for each of the calibers listed which all have differing effects on the sound. Regardless, we would not recommend not recommend shooting unsuppressed without ear pro.

[@savagefury69]

@@ijsk7930 without a suppressor, 8.6 blk isn't a good cartridge choice

[@ijsk7930]

@@savagefury69 I like the idea of a “quieter” round for hunting. I don’t always wear ear pro when hunting. I find a 9mm carbine (our carbines are 18”) but the shot isn’t too bad on my ears. Perhaps 300blk subs would be comparable to a 9mm rifle length gun.

[@40CaliberCowboy]

I gotta get me one of these…

[@etherealswordsman3214]

oh, 8.6 is alive after all, good

[@olternaut]

Chat....Dissent MK3 vs XCR-M in 8.6 blk? Thoughts?

[@shaunoliverii8961]

Ooh! I want one for a giveaway! Great looking rifle!🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲

[@cornbread206]

is the upper DPMS?? Or is it proprietary to the Dissent lower?

[@CMMG]

The DISSENT uppers themselves are proprietary since they house the compact action and utilize a forward side charger. They should fit on DPMS patterened lowers though. Unfortunately there is no set standard on the .308 sizes, so that's why we say "should". Some companies do slight variances.

[@Yanksfan0002]

Anyone know if the front charging handle is ambidextrous?

[@CMMG]

it is

[@troyelder56]

Believe you need to buy a right sided charging handle. At least year ago according to military arms channel. Unless they changed the design

[@CMMG]

@@troyelder56 The Mk3, Mk47, and radial delayed uppers are ambi. You need the additional handle for calibers like 5.56, 300blk that are DI.

[@AB1138-]

How decent do these uppers fit on M5 lowers?

[@CMMG]

Update, while very close dimensionally, there are some slight variations at the lower receiver tower (where the buffer tube threads in) which is not compatible with the DISSENT upper.

[@adamsaaron6776]

I’ve been looking for an excuse to buy the CMMG this is it

[@LTTUSA]

What does the term, Blackout refer to?

[@CMMG]

That's a good question. When the .300 AAC Blackout was designed, there's not much said on why the name was chosen. Kevin Brittingham was the founder of AAC that devolped that round. He is now the founder of Q that developed the 8.6 BLK.

[@DavidA20200]

I’m disappointed the shortest barrel you can get is 12.5.

[@cornbread206]

a FAXON 8" is inevitable.....

[@stevis182]

12.5 is the perfect length if switching between subs and supers

[@AusJackal]

Looks nice.. if you have a select fire version... 😂 I'll take one in 8.6 and 308..

[@bry2k]

Is it a Faxon barrel or is CMMG making their own?

[@CMMG]

We are making our own.

[@JamesHarris-l7c]

I’m changing my straight buffer tub for a adjustable tub do I use same buffer springs banshee 9mm

[@CMMG]

Please contact our customer service. There are more questions that will need to be asked and it will be easier there than in the comments here. Thank you!

[@nimo517]

Hmmm I want an X caliber…. CMMG site first

[@thalo215]

Sweet.

[@B7NZ]

Wish you could make the Mk 3 in 6.5 PRC that has less recoil than 308, and you would be the first.

[@PlazmaZ5]

Why not make a 12 Gauge Upper?

[@jameszadiva3311]

Can we get this in a 8” or even a 7” barrel

[@EYE50MM]

Can you do a video where a lefty reviews the MK3? Wondering if the gas is as bad out of the ejection port as the Sig line of piston rifles, or better. Lefties have rights too! Just wish they made more left ejecting rifles. Wish Stag Arms had a lefty piston lineup like the MK3.

[@wokndedfan413]

I was going to get a 9x39 AR upper for my MK47 lower. However, the ammo was insanely expensive.

[@GldenRetriever]

That's why you reload. I prefer 9x39 over 8.6blk as it uses smaller mags and lighter rifles.

[@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127]

@@GldenRetrieverReloading is also a barrier to entry. Also some people just don’t have space for that.

[@GldenRetriever]

@@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127 You really don't need a lot of room to reload. It can take up no more room than a chair does.

[@CMMG]

It's a different size upper too. The Mk47 is mid-sized, and most other manufacturers won't fit.

[@pineapple999100]

$2.1K for a low spec 4140 CMV barrel that only gets a nitrided finish. We’ll listen when you step your specs up for that price range. 😂

[@cornbread206]

any tested 10,000+ rounds?

[@TopShotDustin]

Oof that would cost over $20k in ammo

[@olternaut]

I wish he had worn a brightly colored shirt so the gun could be seen more clearly.

[@chitterlingsrtasty]

lack of expended gas is intriguing.

[@5fingerlovetouch]

Uppers , Dissent, .308.......blank page? 😥

[@CMMG]

Sorry about that. We'll get our ecommerce team on a fix. Thanks for the heads up! Should be soon.

[@5fingerlovetouch]

@@CMMG It's working now, thank you! Now I get to be poor in 308

[@heavyjmertes197]

I enjoy the fact that half my life, the gun industry told me, "speed kills," get rid of your .45 acp. Now, "big and slow is the way to go," even in our rifles. What's old is new again, just like every other industry. 45-70 suppressed anyone? Lol!

[@tjpcworks3777]

I wonder what the heaviest 45-70 load is?

[@griffinfaulkner3514]

Speed still definitely kills, but being quiet also forces you to go slow, so you may as well throw the biggest chunk of metal you can.

[@anti8.6]

If 8.6 wants to survive its going to have to get it's ammo price lowered by half.

[@TheBlacksmith5]

I mean, it's a brand new boutique round that's not even got SAAMI spec'd yet. At this point, everyone is making wildcat guns and ammo. Once it's been approved by SAAMI, more will dip their toes into it and it'll become more prevalent quickly

[@tweaxk2674]

Make a 8.5

[@phillipcraddock8248]

AND IM TWICE AS BROKE,

[@chriskamen2152]

Scar killer?!?!?!?

[@jonasauruz]

B11117D 🎉

[@artlife9563]

Did you guys fix the handguard separation problem?

[@CMMG]

It wasn't a problem. If you are referencing Tactical Considerations, that was a one off preproduction handguard that we swapped out for him.

[@artlife9563]

@@CMMG Glad to hear it. This is a very interesting product at a very good price.

[@newerest1]

😍🥲

[@Rubeless]

Nonsense caliber. What’s next, 9.2?

[@chitterlingsrtasty]

Why is it nonsense?

[@heirapparent333]

No dissent in 10mm with a 8 inch barrel. Why must i ask please.

[@rastavelli]

While 338 Spectre perfectly and comfortably sits in a smaller and lighter AR15 platform, and have been delivering smiles to its users for years ... way to re-invent the wheel you clowns

[@TheArchiecat]

don`t care to watch someone stand there and press a trigger when i can`t see what there shooting at or the distance

[@newerest1]

Cool buddy

[@BamsyTheSergal]

womp womp, this isnt a review video.

[@TheArchiecat]

@@BamsyTheSergal no it’s look at me my mama said I’m pretty

[@ColeWeaver-e2q]

No one cares