The Modern Guitar Discussion w/ Tosin Abasi, Tim Henson & Misha Mansoor

[@dinomeneghin2987]

The fact that this video wasn't titled "The League of Extraordinary Djentlemen" is a loss for all humanity.

[@TheLebTM]

A few djent bands including periphery already did a tour under that name around 2011 or 2012 I think

[@sillykanji]

Legit laughed out loud.

[@FatesxofxthexDead]

@@maximummatt73 you should get your PMS checked out

[@FatesxofxthexDead]

@@maximummatt73 cool old meme, bro

[@FatesxofxthexDead]

@@maximummatt73 not remotely lmao

[@AbasiConcepts]

This was such a good hang☺️🤘🏿

[@Jayraymay13]

Hello sir, Thank you for your music!!! You are one of the reasons I started playing guitar again!!!

[@alexandrejoyal1284]

We need more deep talks like this with cool cats (such as yourself) about music, philosophy and creativity in general!

[@VegasLoungeAct]

Awesome to see all of you in one room talking guitar! 🤘

[@ph0kused]

Hey tosin you inspired me to make the jump into extended range guitars. Hope youre doing well in these crazy times, pumped for your new content!

[@JSaltyfabricator]

Mad love to you Tosin!! INAMORATA🤙

[@seventhflatfive]

"Boomer bends" is at 24:48. Just in case you were searching for it as well, fellow youtube traveller.

[@tenparsecs914]

Much appreciated

[@floressequoia1]

I read the guitar world article and it sounds like a number of people really came out of the woodwork to share their criticisms. Either way, really doesn't matter to me.

[@Ramkatral]

You the hero

[@aleksakocijasevic6613]

Greetings, friend. You know what I seek. Farewell!

[@indrawoody4382]

Thank you man, God bless you..

[@Aaronek5]

Let's all appreciate that we have Beato, Abasi, Hensen, and Mansoor along with their opinions in the palm of our hands for free.........

[@RickBeato]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@briankormos9949]

No, thank you!

[@wilhelm4481]

Damn your sentence reminds me of a song I listend times ago. King Stuff - Circuts in the Sand Give it a try, it’s a pretty cool song

[@TheLegenDacster]

@@wilhelm4481 King Tuff - Circuits in the sand.

[@JedNadin]

Buy that Beato Book, gang.

[@SomeBlackGuy]

So much talent in one room shouldn’t be possible to contain

[@MaddesG1]

Tim Henson is a Noodler.

[@danielc9606]

@@MaddesG1 I would do anything to eat his noodles

[@MaddesG1]

@@danielc9606 hmm would you...

[@siryeetsleyiii872]

You should have seen Band Aid in 86.... oh boy

[@GamePlayMetal]

Oh hey

[@MonarchsOfBrotherhood]

I love how Tim breaks the fourth wall by looking into the camera. Makes me feel included in the conversation.

[@ossiehalvorson7702]

Makes me uncomfortable lmao. I personally enjoy being the invisible observer in a group conversation though.

[@NIVO95]

So true

[@AmarothEng]

He seems to be doing that consistently in videos in general. Probably on purpose.

[@LilithianShades]

You can clearly tell he likes the camera.

[@zakm0n]

"The St. Anger snare, I love it!" Misha's reaction was GOLD.

[@yazdan7774]

wHaT?

[@MerrickGuitar]

Truthfully I love the St.Anger snare lol

[@Rxbandit421]

Merrick no...no you don’t...no one does... jk u do u

[@Nilsb-ue5qh]

I didnt notice because i was too busy flipping out myself

[@Materdaddy]

That's an album I love for the meaning and overall song writing. The sound isn't good. Shoot me again, I ain't dead yet.

[@ChandraKanth7]

Rick is like a cool uncle that everyone wants to hang out with!

[@himmy4251]

haha exactly he's awesome

[@tauronval1404]

Maestro….👌🏻

[@flakesinyershoe8137]

For sure. I had an uncle who was in the music industry in Seattle for like a half century, a person never knew if someone like the heart sisters or Steve Miller was in the room with him at any given moment, I kind of wish he would have recorded some of his stories.

[@sauravsarmah8005]

Sensei

[@TheGuitarman1968]

You must be young. More like an older brother or cousin for me, but I get what you are saying.🎸👍

[@BurstingVeins1]

I love Misha's take, "I don't think I'm a good musician". It's not up to the player to decide if they're a good musician or songwriter, that's up to the listener. The musician is just doing what they enjoy doing.

[@slavesforging5361]

hopefully. nothing worse than a musician doing what they think others think is cool.

[@Noone-ew2wk]

@@slavesforging5361 sounds kinda specific

[@keithpetersen9196]

That's a good take. I can't stand it when I tell people I play music and the first thing they ask is "are you good"?

[@iceWaterProductions1]

Modern Guitar?? I respect and love all this channel is about, but I just don’t know.

[@austinheyman]

But he literally has minimal theory knowledge. He’s extremely talented and a natural.

[@TheDSasterX]

It is *SO* liberating to hear these virtuosos humble themselves. Knowing that only Tosin has ~some sort of idea~ of what he's doing after the fact, that Misha is terrified to jam because he can't improvise, and that even Tim's popularity was preceded by his originality stemming from not fitting in is really comforting. It's also crazy that Rick started producing at 37 and got his chops up and got through the industry so fast at that age that he can just call up these 3 and do a chat!

[@codymarkley8372]

Interestingly tosin for the longest time felt like he couldn't competently improvise over the blues.

[@krisd-c1372]

So fucking motivating if you ask me.

[@user-oy7gz5bf2h]

@@codymarkley8372 He's been going so far for so long in his own direction. Playing the blues well is really something else.

[@thehoodedvagabum7375]

If you think Tim is a virtuoso you should listen to more guitarists. Specially jazz ones. He´s very creative, a lot. But when it comes to improvise even the most simple thing, he just can´t.

[@user-oy7gz5bf2h]

@@thehoodedvagabum7375 Improvisation isn't a prerequisite for the term. Lot's of great musicians don't improvise. People usually refer to technical ability. Which is what I found in the definition after a quick search.

[@eswing2153]

Tim is practicing guitar out of nervous energy. Wonderful.

[@cecilkeebler4254]

Possibly. Kind of distracting actually.

[@polikato4813]

I've watched multiple videos of tim being interviewed/hanging out irl, i noticed that if he's holding a guitar he's always fiddling despite being in. He's one of those 24/7 guitar fiddlers

[@BeforeThisNovember]

@@polikato4813 that’s no coincidence that he’s one of the best young players in the world

[@T4llJak3]

hes just stoned

[@doobrikter2969]

@@T4llJak3 so was jesus

[@bored4428]

Dude, I fucking love Misha. He is so down to earth. "I hate jamming. I can't improvise and I can't improvise hanging with you guys" Lmao, this guy is the best.

[@jsteiner4621]

Haha “down to earth”. What earth are you referring to? He’s the Joe bonamassa of metal.

[@GregNoblin]

What Tosin was getting at is you can teach and learn technique, skill, fundamentals, and approaches. But you cannot really teach creativity and vision. You can kind of lead someone in the direction of vision and creativity, but the rest is for them to discover. Not being locked into a predefined rulebook of process, yet having the skill to master a process allows for the development of a unique process that can lead to a unique vision.

[@chrisbarnes22]

Yep. You can read the dictionary front to back and understand the meaning and context of every word, but it doesn't mean you could write a compelling or interesting story.

[@Veaseify]

Absolutely, I played in bands with guys who could play Vai/Satriani solos note for note but got lost after 2 minutes jamming over a 12 bar...

[@slavesforging5361]

I agree with Tim. i make music because i want to listen to something that doesn't exist. Always been like that. There's music going in my brain always and sometimes i want to hear what it would sound like in real life.

[@lalolanda3996]

I agree. in my mind, there's a really cool song but it hasn't been composed yet, so I've got to do it

[@danielwareking]

Tosin is seriously just the nicest, most humble, down to earth guy and he's a fucking guitar god. I just love that about him.

[@robertonome2448]

true that. him being an absolute beast on guitar just feels like the smallest detail to his personality

[@tecnica-de-voz]

31:39 I think this phenomena is called the 4 minute mile. In 1954 an athlete by the name Roger Bannister intended to run a mile in less than 4 minutes. He was told by his doctor not to try to do it otherwise his heart would literally explode. Ever since he broke that record it has been broken by over 1,400 athletes. When humans see other humans pushing the limits beyond and beyond it empowers them to see possibility and therefore like you guys are saying rise the bar higher and higher.

[@davidjairala69]

Maybe his doctor was just an idiot?

[@mmklassen]

Exactly. And now a sub 2 hour marathon. Amazing. Raising the bar produces results previously thought impossible.

[@jackjurphy5020]

In 1954 they knew nothing about diet and exercise compared to today.

[@seanmatthewking]

That would be a pretty clunky name for a phenomenon, even if breaking the 4 minute mile was a prominent example of the phenomenon.

[@cheekbone4554]

Check our "Morphic Resonance Theory'

[@rubenalb]

He shall now be called "Rick Fury", cause that guy has brought together the Avengers of prog!

[@jackbenson8228]

you obvs dont know what prog is lol

[@rubenalb]

@@jackbenson8228 Well excuuuuuse me princess, what should I call it then?

[@yodathehutt1557]

😂👍

[@yodathehutt1557]

@@jackbenson8228 shut up jack

[@RogerBarraud]

Captain Amearica... :-)

[@loudrumsforyou]

Tosin seems like the most chill person to hangout with, hes just happy to be there

[@RichardBatemanMusic]

Man those three guys must be so hyped to meet Rick beato

[@RickBeato]

Haha!! I’m going to tell them that :)

[@denissmith9772]

Give Band-Maid some love!

[@cygnus-x]

@@denissmith9772 lol

[@steven5054]

You fanboys make him out like he is Bob Rock and Steve Lukather put together... geez.

[@mitchweiner]

@@steven5054 He’s not?

[@jcwdesigns82]

Rick…hearing you say you started mixing at 37 just made me almost cry. I’ve been playing with daws for years, but really started learning when I was in my early 30s. Makes me feel like I’m not behind. ❤️❤️

[@JazerMedia]

I'm 28 and thought I was way behind too. Don't ever believe you're late to the party!

[@codybell371]

@ghost mall here’s what I meant right here: it’s never too late to start. @Josh Williams, you’re not alone in feeling the way you do, man! Keep doing what you do👍🏻👍🏻

[@heyborttheeditor1608]

@@JazerMedia 26 and same, its never to late to have a good time LOL

[@vlogoftea]

It's never too late to pick up something new or to acquire new skills. The way I see it, life is just one big journey of learning new things every day, whether that's on a personal or emotional level, obtaining more knowledge, or honing new skills. As they say, follow your bliss.

[@Sochi_Mochi]

45 and just picked up the drums…haven’t looked back 👀 ✌🏻🥁

[@erikrummel6277]

I gotta admit…… My expectations of this conversation were way low compared to what I got from it. I thought this was gonna be a whole bunch of heady mumbo jumbo, but this was a cool hang with a bunch of really cool dudes that just so happen to be top tier musicians. You guys should consider doing this more often. Pick a few topics to riff on and just capture the magic. Love all of you guys already, but this video leveled up the respect and admiration to another level. Thank you for doing this Rick

[@tanzer_j]

If Misha hasn't started a podcast yet he should, I could listen to him talk about anything for hours

[@alandoughty1]

Have you heard him when he was on Herman Li's Twitch channel? The guy speaks a LOT of sense about a LOT of things.

[@flynnedwards]

Check out his twitch stream! I'd actually like to see one with both Tosin and Misha, I feel like they oppose each other's statements in a way that offers two sides to an argument but still interact well nonetheless

[@Waterinmenbenen]

That dude has wisdom in spades.

[@therealfolkblues2526]

If you don't mind the subject matter, he's done at least two episodes of a podcast called the smoking tire. It's mostly about cars, with a little bit of guitars and wrist watches.

[@danherrick2310]

well thats good cause he talked about 60% of this lol

[@quincylarsonmusic]

"I just want to hear all the things I like in one thing." Tim so casually and so totally nails why I enjoy making music.

[@dan_ward]

It's quite affirming, as somebody who likes a lot of different music and thinking "man, this would be ridiculous to all combine together" but realising that judgement is perceived as coming from others, not myself. I am concerned others won't like what I make, because music makes me feel so many things, and I'd like to share that with others. But I'm also not in control of how other's feel. So I may as well do what I really want to do and enjoy the journey and result, even if I'm the only one.

[@ixLunacy]

@@dan_ward well said

[@JamesAngelo]

Thank you for creating Freecodecamp! 🙏🏾

[@alexweb9974]

Thank you for helping me change career and turn my life around. I will be forever grateful for what you do for the programming community. Cool to see you here too.

[@oddfellowfloyd]

@@dan_ward I had the great fortune of meeting Steve Vai, before his concert in NY, for the Passion & Warfare anniversary tour 5 years ago. He gave me a hug, and told me, "Play what you love."--those four, sincere words encouraged me more than I'll ever know. I happily tell my guitar students that all the time, and after reading your thoughtful post, I felt like I wanted to share them with you. Music should be encouraging, and cyclical--learn from those who know more than you, share what you learn with others, and just enjoy it. :)

[@Jamie_Wilson]

It's great the level of respect these guys have for each other. Next to those 3, you wouldn't put Rick in the same class guitar-wise, yet on a Jazz level, a theory level he's head and shoulders above them and they know it. When Rick talks, every one of them listens intently with 100% attention on his words. Love the respect they show one another!

[@asant90]

Of course

[@klickingkayasmr7585]

Yep! This is what I like about musicians as opposed to singers: singers have too much ego. Get three singers in a room 💥⚡️🌪️⛈️

[@matt_white_music]

Rick knew exactly when to speak and listen during this discussion. He’s immensely knowledgeable, but humble. Again, thank you, Mr. Breato. 👍🏻

[@ifoundthistoday]

I wish I had that talent ...

[@AverageArdvark]

I think Tim was just writing the next polyphia album on that guitar he's holding while everyone else talked.

[@renatofonte]

Hahaha i thought the same. The Kids is thinking on the next track

[@thomascorneliomusic]

I find this so rude tbh haha. People are having a convo just cool it for one second dude!

[@jarodmhenderson]

@@thomascorneliomusic I've seen another video where he explains that he does that to help with his anxiety and help him think and focus. It's almost like a safety blanket. he did the same thing in his video with the DragonForce guy (I'm bad with names, don't flame me)

[@complexdevice]

Nah he was playing riffs from 'So Strange'

[@athmaid]

@@thomascorneliomusic yeah it's seems a bit rude but if you read his body language he is pretty fidgety and as others have said anxious. And the others obviously don't mind so who cares

[@dougcronkhite2113]

I would pay money to hear these guys talk to each other once a month. Just love this entire discussion.

[@sauerkrautoneverything7807]

If Tosin was holding his guitar, Misha wouldn't be in the camera's frame.

[@ClassicShotMK3]

Too true

[@Gary_W]

either Misha or Rick 😂

[@ahsnsnszazushhsus2487]

Not doubt that dude is insane..8stings 9 strings..and not like a 12 with drones but a 6. 🙊

[@antonlasy7501]

hahah cracked me up hard

[@remmile]

haha just pause at 6:26 he looks like he is holding his air guitar upwards so i think it would have been cool lol

[@theax40]

Tim: I've never heard the Black Album Me: that's not unreasonable Also Tim: my favorite Metallica song is Some Kind of Monster Also me: this is unacceptable. Absolute travesty.

[@samsonslmpson1986]

He's trolling

[@tripxez8478]

Yea forsure trolling

[@cd0u50c9]

The kid is a joke, let's be honest.

[@mitchgarcia4455]

hes only like 1 year older than me and i also never heard most metallica songs. ive heard like sandman, one, and the "be careful what you knoooooow" song. not sure he's trolling

[@samsonslmpson1986]

@@mitchgarcia4455 get your life together son

[@pierrebernard7665]

25:20 "Originality is a byproduct". Wow...this hit me hard. Also, I just realized how much time I wasted obsessing about music theory instead of just playing. This is one the great advantages of modern media, it has plenty of bad sides but it also allows podcasts like these to spread the wisdom. Thank you :)

[@MegaTuang]

True

[@SuperXD44]

28:26 Its fun that Tim says that where Tosin has been talking about Porsche. Because the founder of Porsche was motivated to build cars because he couldnt found the one he liked. "If i cant find the car I want, I'll build it myself - Ferdinand Porsche Pretty ironic lmao

[@filippredin2063]

I wish this was a Podcast! Literally the only one I’d listen to.

[@ianrivera2523]

I've always been, and heck, probably always will be a bedroom artist - but - this video (for me) emphasized one thing; knowledge doesn't always trump creativity. I think I've gone down a rabbit hole, these past few years, being obsessed with all 3 of these artists and my presumption that they're all Rick Beato equals in terms of music theory. This has forced me to try and obsess with the textbook rather than my feelings. It's refreshing to hear that its okay to not understand what you're doing and just accept that it sounds good no matter how simple or complex it may be. I think the majority of us normal people have been missing that reaffirmation.. Loved this Rick. Thank you Tosin, Tim and Misha

[@BMR86]

I absolutely love your comment!

[@Geoffgeff]

First we get an extended Pat Metheny interview THEN this line-up! Rick you are the absolute best!

[@dulla8469]

the most important part i took from this, is that most of us dont know what we're doing but its ok cause some of the best dont aswell... made me feel at peace with my lack of knowledge, and also thinking about the random stuff that i come up with from time to time that amaze me yet i dont know how i came up with it

[@TacoCrisma]

Being in the age range of Tosin and Misha, I totally understand the "getting old" bit. Especially discussing influential music with younger guys. ESPECIALLY the downloading bit hahaha. Oh the Kazaa days. I also enjoyed how Rick and Tosin kept pulling Tim into the conversation - hes clearly very introverted but had a lot to offer when directly engaged. Good stuff.

[@thebirdsareback]

My Limewire and Frostwire feel left out lmfao and Bear Share wow....wow

[@curtisunit]

“ I feel like if there’s no gray area there is no discovery.” Tosin Abasi. Wonderful thought.

[@danielhoskins4690]

It was so reassuring to hear that opinion from someone so technically accomplished.

[@stagecoachrobbery]

Glad you are giving a platform to these kinds of guitar players. Too many people are stuck in the past. I love classic rock and old school metal as much as anyone, but I can only heart Eddie Van Halen and Megadeth stories for so long.

[@jrusovich]

I don't know whether Henson is bored or nervous, but I don't think he heard a word of what anyone was saying as the practiced his riffs. Perhaps he isn't comfortable in the company of other master guitarists, and there are LOTS of them these days. Misha rocked this interview, and hats off to Rick for hosting.

[@papapetad]

This was a great gathering. Tosin is an awesome nerd. His thing about humans tapping into what others have experienced ties into a concept coined as morphogenetic field, with ideas like our brains are not so much generators of consciousness as they are receptors of consciousness, taking straight from the source (where creativity originates and things like instinct come from, where experience is recorded). Rupert Sheldrake and Bruce Lipton are excellent spokesmen for this concept.

[@turingmachine7905]

That’s why I do crossword puzzles in the evening.

[@papapetad]

@@turingmachine7905 😂

[@vashusan1984]

I really appreciate all the praise that Misha puts on Matt. I truly love watching and listening to Matt crush drum parts. Truly exceptional drummer and really makes that trio.

[@mattjoe1982]

He swings.

[@punked75]

Around 21 minutes, Tosin correcting his joke under his breath saying "major third" is the most musically nerdy thing, and I love it 🤣

[@SamB..1995]

18:37

[@tavarish]

I am freaking out right now

[@budaroddy]

What you doing here? 😂 Misha Mansoor looks like you

[@ryanjetton]

Tavarish letting his music taste out in the open on the tube!

[@ethanschafer4684]

I was gonna say tavarish and misha look and sound similar too

[@ColdFusion]

Same, what a great conversation!

[@danteedee8204]

Some of my favorite KZbin un one place.

[@stevecoscia]

From an older musician like me (67 years old) this video is fun and informative. Enlightening dialogue among generations. More videos like this please.

[@relaxingsounds1386]

Tosin is beyond an articulate thinker and speaker. Next level.

[@KerryKugelman]

Another home run. Rick, you are influencing the music world in so many great ways just by opening up all these spaces for discussion of things that have nowhere else to happen - but are *hugely* important for musicians and fans. Thank you for what you are doing.

[@WhyTheHorseface]

The saddest I’ve ever been to hear Rick say “That’s all for now” 😢

[@WforWrath]

"i learned protools on my own, at 37 years old" - rick beato giving us 30 year olds hope

[@KenSpassione]

52 year olds too! 😂

[@andrewwhite1335]

Misha: You have a really strong ear. Rick: Huh? Such a really cool and relaxed conversation with a good Dad Joke thrown in to keep it down to earth.

[@zzzaaannnn]

it always impress me how tosin is so well spoken and eloquent, like, he's got such a unique vocabulary

[@mathewreed818]

And then there’s Tim, whose vocabulary consists of “like” and “fuckin”

[@Waterinmenbenen]

😂 I mean, like, he talks like a 17 year old valley girl, like, you know?

[@chrisking6695]

He talks like a normal person IMO. Maybe you're hanging around with the wrong people lol

[@michaelshepherd7572]

@@chrisking6695 exactly. He’s well spoken in a world where the “younger” generation can’t put together a complete sentence.

[@Waterinmenbenen]

@@chrisking6695 You don’t hear Misha or Rick talk like an adolescent now do you? But to be fair, Tosin isn’t that bad. Apart from his ‘likes’ and intonation he’s pretty well spoken indeed. Henson is way worse.

[@aidenferry23]

Grateful to live in an era where the world’s great guitarists seem like smart cool guys and not total dicks!!!

[@nate_ock]

queue Yngwie Malmsteen

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

And look where it got them, they don't have that relentless douchebag energy it takes to really succeed

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

@Michelle Louise Davis exactly

[@seanlheeger]

@Michelle Louise Davis He was one of the first of a kind.

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

@@seanlheeger bruh if you think that then listen to necrophagist and cynic and death and all those 90s death metal bands. Especially like cannibal corpse

[@suprchickn7745]

I love hearing these guys say they don't realize what they're doing when it comes to theory. Very reassuring to those of us musicians that construct things by ear.

[@corail53]

Don't let them fool you into that. They know more about theory then a majority of players out there - they have all studied it to a degree as stated in many other interviews and their backgrounds.

[@josephharvey1762]

What's amazing is when someone like Misha, who doesn't use tons of theory in writing, can come up many different things that sound novel. I find music theory really helpful when trying to come up with new, interesting chord progressions, etc.

[@dragonfx310]

Shout-out to Misha for the Carpenter Brut shirt and Tim for never ceasing to play his guitar during the whole talk.

[@Shibestrike]

Yeah i saw carpenter brut and clicked haha

[@codybell371]

Tim admitting to have never heard Metallica’s black album validates my frustration from the many years friends and family have ridiculed me for never have listened to what they consider to be “great music”. On the same note, Rick stating that he learned how to produce on pro tools at 37 proves that it’s never too late learn new skills and achieve success. That’s some serious motivation right there!

[@brigwood7658]

but it is weird not hearing the black album when you're a leading guitarist in the field. Not dissing it, is just shows how things have changed.

[@Novenae_CCG]

@@brigwood7658 Yeah, it's interesting, and there's so much stuff out there now. While I've heard some of Metallica's stuff, I definitely haven't hear most of it, as they're not like my favorite band. I'm not inspired by Metallica, but I'm certainly inspired by bands who were inspired by Metallica.

[@codybell371]

@@brigwood7658 I definitely see your point! Do you think that has to do with the difference in music that helped him developed his/Polyphia’s unique style? Tim could EASILY break out enter sandman if he wanted to, but maybe thrash wasn’t the focus of what he listened to when he learned how to play

[@seanmatthewking]

@ghost mall You most be close to 37 or older. I just want to say, even though you’re almost dead, it’s never too late to learn a new skill.

[@milkcarton6654]

@ghost mall Frankly i'm 43 and can barely feed and bathe myself.................. though it's more a motivation problem.

[@KarzGuitar]

Dang, it's interesting to hear Tim's experiences. I resonate more with Misha and Tosin's experiences - the Metallica stuff, downloading songs that were purposefully mislabelled off Limewire etc and I'm two years younger than Henson.

[@greysonwagner]

Took me ages to realize that the version of "As I Am" by Dream Theater I downloaded on Limewire was *not* the actual "As I Am" by Dream Theater. I still don't know who that band was that mislabeled their song... but the song was killer.

[@KarzGuitar]

@@greysonwagner Yeah that happened a lot! There's a few songs I try and find every now and again by googling the few lyrics I remember, but alas, can't find the real ones. (And I know its not ACTUALLY Master of Puppets, thank you Limewire.)

[@krusher74]

I think Tim takes the road less traveled in most aspects of life.

[@TroublesomeOwl]

I'll just never forget the endless parody songs on Napster and Limewire mislabelled as Weird Al. He was horrified by how many "comedy" songs full of racist and homophobic and sexist content were attributed to him in those days lol

[@luryas626]

I'm like 10 years younger, yet mine is much more like his. Except it is HIS music I learn. Because this is what I wanna sound like

[@Soluscide]

Would love to see more of this style of content with you guys. It's cool to just listen to you guys sitting down and having a conversation with minimal editing.

[@MalyanDrum]

Love you all! This is such touching recognition especially from Misha who's programming inspired me to play this way. Love your channel Rick!

[@gwalt1985]

Rick, you're my personal music professor. I've learned more from you than anyone else. Thank you. 🙏

[@phuxmusic7538]

In fact, there IS a "law" (the "Rechtsfahrgebot"), that tells you to use the right lane, if it's free, so people can pass you on the left lane :)

[@Traumglanz]

Found the german :D

[@Isdale]

Yeah, the germans don't have "unwritten rules" haha

[@shayneswenson]

I met Tosin YEARS ago when he was in Reflux. Awesome person who talked technique with me for 45 minutes. Solid guy!

[@roryyerama5496]

Really enjoy Tosin and Misha's perspective on guitar and music.

[@vonbeaver99]

Misha is the noob in the room

[@workwithwegs4541]

I like how Tosin wants everyone to talk like he is always asking Tim a questions since Tim isn't talking much

[@Wi66pro]

I've never heard of these guys, just checked out Tim Henson, OMG! Goose just pissed off all my neighbours as I had it playing so loud 10pm UK time. I'm 65, thank you for opening me up to some amazing new music.

[@rew6184]

enjoy :) tim and polyphia are changing guitar music as we speak

[@ripit.3457]

@@juankplaysmusic it’s not pretentious, the way that guitars have been perceived in modern music is becoming different as more and more people have discovered that combining trap beats with guitar leads and melodies can creating an intoxicatingly great sound. Polyphia was one of the first bands to realize this and stick with it, thus they are most credited with furthering and evolving guitar music,

[@corail53]

@@ripit.3457 That isn't really evolving guitar playing - it's just playing another style from a music genre that already exists. If you ever look into the theory it all ends up close to the same anyway. Free Jazz guys have been doing this sort of stuff since the 70s nothing is all that new. If most people expanded their musical views outside one or two genres then they would see this but the masses mostly stick to generic nonsense so when something sounds new (still has to be melodic) people will latch on to it thinking its the best thing since sliced bread.

[@cosmogrammar]

@@corail53 there is no other band that sounds like polyphia... Nor that combines their level of technicality with pop style hooks. It's not saying that Tim is the greatest guitarist ever or that there isn't any precedent for some aspects of what they're doing, of course nothing is wholly original. But Polyphia *is* changing guitar music for gen z, them and Ichika Nito.

[@rise4097]

What a great convo! Can’t believe I’ve been listening to all these guys for over 10 years.

[@Rhamirezz85]

You know, I forgot how starved I am of some quality conversations, interesting characters and great musicians. Too much that surounds us on daily basis is mediocre at best and plain stupid. I love this!! How cool is that You brought together people that influenced me in my journey thorough music! Thank You very much for this video!!

[@elmotociclista9296]

same here lol

[@mrhandyhandssr7839]

Been listening to Misha the longest but holy crap Rick these 3 (and their bands) are my life’s playlist. Thank you so much for this content!! Wish Aaron Marshall and Plini were here lol

[@gabor.kovacs]

So many talents can’t stay in the same room at the same time for the safety of our musical needs. :) Like the president and the wp during a critical situation, you know. Sorry, this is the law. :P (these 5 guitarists are the best in modern guitar, no question, I'm with ya. Cheers from Vienna)

[@AAllinsonNN]

Plini is a great musician, but has no social contributions. Aaron Marshall is a different story. He can communicate all of it so well

[@thekramer1097]

@@AAllinsonNN Aaron is like the kid who studies three weeks ahead of the test. Knows a lot and knows how to comunicate it

[@harm9249]

Damn, Tosin is so knowledgeable. Absolutely brilliant video, so enjoyable.

[@CoachSet]

I literally just discovered Polyphia 12/30 and now listening to 4 of the coolest dudes ever. Can’t wait to check out the rest of Periphery and Animals. Great convo Beato!!

[@KStebleton]

Me too - had never heard of Polyphia or Tim Hensen until this week

[@luciussavagemusic]

This genuinely just seems like 4 friends together who love music, you'd never even know that they're some of the biggest rock musicians at the moment, it's so cool to listen to

[@stevofficialmusic]

I can’t believe you pulled these three guys into a room. This is so awesome, their talent plus yours is incalculable.

[@schecterdiamond177]

Misha and Tosin. Y’all my spirit animals. We like the same age and all grew up playing guitar and so much of what they talkin about is exactly my feelings and views. Then you hear Tim who’s younger and his perspective is so different , love this. Very cool guys.

[@BloodMagic_1]

Talented people being humble. So much insight into instinctive raw talent. I'm having goosebumps

[@Sunvaqud00]

I love seeing their mad respect for each other. We need more of that in the world.

[@kelrico1]

Really enjoyed those youngsters. God I'm so old.

[@XeromusPrime]

This is a fascinating conversation, I'd love to hear an even longer more in-depth version! Love it!

[@entropyembrace3844]

I can tell by the way he speaks that Tosin is basically brilliant. Vanguards of guitar playing all in one room

[@roogrey]

There are some gems in here, and unexpected ones too. When they talk about originality and Tim uses the analogy about shopping, light bulbs went off for me! A fascinating conversation.

[@vendeta9393]

Other outlets are probably screaming getting basically modern guitar in one room. Only Plini is missing. Great video!! 😤

[@Reaper7mk]

Plini, Manuel, and the chon dudes

[@MrScrofulous]

@@Reaper7mk and Ichicka Nito

[@TedByars]

I watched a video of the Polyphia guys playing with someone like Satriani at a NAMM thing I think. It was clear they were uncomfortable and didn’t really play well trying to improvise with him. I believe it because that was waaaay out of their wheelhouse. As an older guy it’s easy for me to look down my nose and “judge” with my arms closed that they can’t play like the old guys. These guys come from a different place musically. But at least they’re trying to create and make something that is unique to them and the place they come from. Great interview.

[@szchietzmane6436]

Tim talked about that performance on his Twitch. He said they (Him and Scott) couldn't hear what they play. He also said they don't watch their performance footage on NAMM because they are scared, they know it's bad. They just wanna remember about the awesome feeling sharing a stage with the legends.

[@ephemeralreborn]

This footage is GOLD 💎

[@keinname1896]

Just being a german guy here: Driving on the left lane an a german highway for too long without a reason like overtaking sb. and while doing that hhindering the traffic for the people behind you is actually a offense against the german street traffic regulations and fined with 60 bucks and an entry into the register of german traffic offenders which can lose you your license. Driving in the right lane whenever possible is actually a law here. :D

[@pikiwiki]

"offense against the german street traffic regulations and fined with 60 bucks and an entry into the register of german traffic offenders" this sounds like something you just don't want to do

[@DMminion101]

We do the same here in Denmark, as overtaking is only allowed overtaking cars that are on your right side. So if staying too long and being too slow being in the left lane, honks will be heard.

[@hititwithit]

Comparable to the The Netherlands. You can definitely get a fine for staying in the left lane unnecessarily long ("links plakken").

[@allenswanson2423]

in fact, there are parts of the US where the same thing will happen. I attended a memorial for a guy, held in his family's home state, Michigan. The woman with whom he'd co-habited came in from out of state to attend, and was ticketed en route by a Michigan state trooper, for cruising in the right-hand lane.

[@AllegoryofPatrick]

Loved hearing everyone's input. 28 years old and I can't believe Tim hasn't heard the black album. Top 10 Rick vid of the year

[@kirehj_sm]

well it´s not THAT hard actually

[@kirehj_sm]

@@Ottophil meh, there's some good stuff to start with too 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Lokidooki]

@@Ottophil Tim is the next evolution of guitar, he has no interest in how things used to be done. Kirk would have a hard time playing Tim's stuff, but not the other way around.

[@liquidsolids9415]

I get it if he hasn't heard the whole album, but surely he's heard "Enter Sandman"! Hasn't everybody heard that song?

[@Kaz999998]

@@Lokidooki I don't think Tim himself would subscribe to an opinion so douchey.

[@stashladki2594]

Still can't wrap my head around how insanely cool everything that you do is, gathering those masterminds in one spot just having a great time, what a joy to watch and listen to all of you talk

[@JordanAF808]

These guys are so chill, I felt like I was right there! Musicians are generally way more interesting people... fact!

[@ThomasLoyd]

This was awesome hearing a younger generation's perspective too! I have to agree with them in regards to hip hop stars versus musicians. Everyone of them are awesome and glad to hear their perspectives! Rick crossing over generational lines too! Rick, this is why you're so damn cool! Everyone is comfortable with you and you keep it real!

[@AnestheticsForAna]

When Tim was talking around 28mins about how he’s trying to make something for him but may never achieve it despite people saying it’s so perfect… it reminded me of JRR Tolkien’s short story “Leaf by Niggle”

[@spotteddogmemphis]

Rick, have you ever heard the story of when Miles and Jimi jammed? Supposedly Miles started to explain the notes they were gonna play and Jimi was just blankly staring at him. Then Jimi said to just play the tune and he will play along. And Miles goes, oh, you’re that kind of cat, then they started jamming. Is there any truth to this? (Most of the story is paraphrased. Haha). Huge fan, best music interviews in the world, not just KZbin. ✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼

[@seanmadden6683]

I read this is Mile’s autobiography years ago. Something along the lines that Hendrix just got it, couldn’t explain it, but transcended most other contemporary educated players.

[@leerobbo92]

This is absolutely wild. Also, so sick to hear Some Kind of Monster getting some love. Such an underrated song.

[@kurtpafford2842]

Great conversations on music theory, practice, and audio production from a breadth of generational experience. I was 21 years old in 2000, studying music: audio technology. We had the old Tascam tape reels and analog board. Next year, the college purchased a Mackie HDR 24/96 with digital/automated fader board and software. We were discussing the changing evolution of music production and the concerns about future employment in the studio. It took 4-7 students to run a session. In 2006, I built my first home/virtual instrument's studio. I used a sample library, sound card, and midi keyboard from E-MU/Proteus. The virtual instruments weren't very polished, but for what I was doing, it was amazing. Now, my PC and equipment is far more powerful than what we had then, which is incredible. It's an entirely different world than it was 20 years ago. Today, I can produce excellent quality music with my home studio that costs less than $10,000 and I don't need other engineers. Such an amazing time to be a musician and producer.

[@franciscohartung4406]

interesting convo, sociologically, the amount of "likes" is surely a separation between generations, Rick almost never says "like", but Tim....., Misha and Tosin in a lesser amount.

[@ambush1242]

Met Tosin outside a show he was opening for Circa Survive in 2010. Such a humble, talented guy. Has been great to see him and AAL get recognition over the years.

[@mechaedward8003]

I remember animals opening for circa a couple years back and I was only about 15, so I was like eh I don’t know who animals are, now I live my life in regret lol

[@ConnorHammond]

Fantastic. Three of my all-time favourite guitarists in the same room, discussing incomprehensibly important assets to legends of our generation and those to come. I wish I was there to attribute and ask further questions. Aptitudinal!

[@kdavis63]

I think I remember a quote from Paul McCartney about money, "I would rather write a song on nice cushion" I also remember them (The Beatles) talking about writing a new song and thinking that they could now get a swimming pool. Basically we do not need to sludge for art.

[@hallowedmeadow4636]

Really appreciate tosins analogies. I feel like his...(aptitude?) with verbal communication translates to his musicality. Great discussion. Thank you.

[@hasherdaggimoto9964]

This was such an amazing video to watch. The way I see it, as an artist who has never had nor wanted any fame, money, recognition, or anything of the sort from the things that I create, it validated a lot of the concepts that I've always felt throughout my life. I'm 36, started playing guitar when i was 12, dropped it during my early 20's due to personal issues, and at 27 decided to start learning production techniques only because I could never be in a band or follow the traditional roadmap of being a musician. Spent years learning how to use Ableton Live just to get the ideas out of my head. I don't listen to radio, don't watch the news, and am minimally social, and still create when I have the time. I feel artists base their work on monetary or social success, and it's a real shame to feel that way. True success comes from within and I encourage everyone who has a creative spark in their soul to not stop doing what they do, because the world would be such an awful place if we all felt that we sucked, or noone ever validated or praised our work.

[@ezza88ster]

There is a theory for why complicated things actually get easier for newer generations to do. It's called 'Morphic Resonance'.

36:20 Links straight into what Adam Neely's mom was saying about singers who learn to sing by listening to autotuned music actually undergoing physical changes accordingly.

[@TheSeeking2know]

Yes. 👊

[@14AspenDrive]

What does that mean for future singers?

[@RobertoReyesChHC]

The implications to this are way bigger than just music. Then that would mean the way we interact with the world can change us physically. Crazy

[@TheSeeking2know]

@@RobertoReyesChHC Yes, exactly.

[@ZacharyDial]

It's so wild to see the different personality types. As a guitar player, this is one of the dopest videos ever. 😁

[@Jasonmakesvideo]

this looks to be one of your greatest videos yet. pioneers of "guitar music" i love these guys!