The Moment Hikaru Breaks Hans’ Ego When Hans’ Trash Talk Went Wrong

[@DvdStennis]

“Once my much older nemesis has finally retired I can win tournaments.” Funny how such a smart guy does not realize how stupid his statements are.

[@sinner2499]

whats stupid there thats genius statment hahahahaha

[@TheClosetPanda]

@@sinner2499 It implies that he thinks he's incapable of taking Hikaru on in his current state, and that he'd have to wait until Hikaru is no longer playing before he can stand a chance of winning. While he spoke so confidently, he was describing a situation in which he is currently too weak to outcompete Hikaru - right before their tournament. That's why it seems naive. It was almost prophetic, and the tournament result spoke for itself.

[@aCullenG]

​@@TheClosetPandathat maybe realistic, one of most common traits I've seen in chess players.

[@zxbc1]

@@aCullenG Realistic, sure, but most people keep that kind of realistic thinking inside. Admitting it openly and even touting it proudly is quite humiliating. He clearly has no self-respect or confidence, and feels like this kind of petty talk is needed to do whatever miniscule damage to Hikaru's reputation/ego. This is desperation on full display.

[@scrumpymanjack]

Except that he's clearly not that smart.

[@bibleredpill7225]

Hans is acts terribly immature. He doesn't have a bad boy image it's just childish. Other grandmasters improve the integrity of the game this Hans fellow reduces it

[@jarraddahl7527]

He is a child he is 21

[@98ore]

@@jarraddahl7527is it a western thing to consider 20 yr olds children ? That’s a young adult. Shit in my country that’s a full on man.

[@Fvneral_moon]

@@98ore No its not a western thing. We don't actually think 21 is a literal child. He's not meaning he is an actual child. He's just saying he's still really young. The child thing is an over exaggeration i guess to get his point across

[@jarraddahl7527]

@98ore no dude. I was in my early twenties once and you don't always act or care like a normal adult. Don't play dumb

[@gengraded]

@@98ore The brain isn't fully developed until 25. Hopefully the older he gets the more he will lose the foolish pride. That said he really is insufferable.

[@AxisofHonor25]

Soo he basically said that he can’t beat Hikaru, so he’s going to wait till Hikaru is way too old to compete and then try to win his way to the top. So basically admitting he’ll never beat him. 💀

[@amanuelyimer3739]

he's saying hikaru will get old and his chess skills will decline while he improves and gets better at chess

[@masonclark531]

@@amanuelyimer3739”I gaslight myself so that I always feel like I’m winning “

[@hejdingamleraev]

Funny how Hans copes by thinking that one day the guys beating him will age out of playing chess, as if there are not going to be new chess players that will beat him

[@MrRazzio]

it's also pretty stupid to think their chess game is going to decline that much with age. i'm assuming you can keep your chess game pretty sharp well into your 70s.

[@JohnProph]

Hans isnt too good at math

[@DiegoCowmey]

@@MrRazzio Thats actually not true, while top players will still be incredible players age drastically effects one's ability to compete just like any other sport

[@fronze1369]

1:04 hans eats a bogey

[@DoctorMooCow]

Tbf it is good for your immune system

[@JohnDoe-qh5xg]

​@@DoctorMooCow how? Maybe go check that fact up u might have got tricked...

[@justsayin8676]

Hans said that he would beat Magnus because he “had broken him before”. On the basis of winning a single game (under questionable circumstances) he thought he could beat Magnus in a match. Delusional.

[@anorangewithacapybaraunder2370]

Hans thought process: _"When I'm the last person on earth, I'll be #1 at everything"_

[@scrumpymanjack]

Love the way his own dumb argument becomes an open admission that he is going to have to wait for Hikaru to retire before he starts winning anything.....and Hikaru's not even the world's best player.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

Chess speaks for itself and yet he's speaking so much shit.

[@tom-qj6uw]

"My reign is gonna last so long ...." What reign? Hans - while certainly a very good chess player - is residing firmly in la-la-land and needs some professional help!

[@mathewfuller25]

He thinks old age is a disease he will never catch. He's too young to realize how quickly he will be old.

[@Rundvelt]

Hans saying "Hikaru will be old soon" is essentially him saying "I can't beat him at his prime". Which is pathetic.

[@rzxt]

The true revenge is letting your enemies see that you'll never beat them and you'll never be as good as they were

[@dantemarcos1410]

Don’t you wanna beat someone at his peak to show your true strength Hans? I mean as a chess player I don’t wanna beat an old man passed his prime 😅

[@samuelefront9901]

"Keeping the power" bro speaks like a cartoon's supervillain

[@scudder91]

Hes like the chess version of Syndrome out of the Incredibles.

[@Nephelangelo]

Fun fact: Paul Morphy has never defeated me. Not once.

[@meltdown6165]

"I will beat Hikaru when he no longer competes."

[@deddywijayalim]

So it's like me saying i can beat mike tyson in a fight when he's literally can't walk anymore lol how is he so proud of that, he's just proving the point that him in his peak got beaten by hikaru that's close to retiring

[@zepeterinma]

Tyson trained back into pretty great shape this year. I wouldnt say he can't walk anymore.

[@Richard0503]

@@zepeterinma IMHO, the first poster wasn’t literally saying Tyson can’t walk now; they were drawing a comparison. It would be like bragging about beating Tyson in a fight only when he’s so far past his prime that he physically can’t compete anymore, like when he can’t walk. The point is that it’s not impressive to make claims about beating a legendary figure when they’re no longer at their best. This fits perfectly with Hans Niemann’s comments about Hikaru-he’s suggesting that bragging about beating Hikaru when he’s close to retirement doesn’t hold much weight, just like beating an out-of-prime Tyson wouldn’t. I will be super interested to see how Tyson gets on - he's such a legend and, like you said, he has done an awesome job of getting into shape. Do you think he will beat Jake?

[@zepeterinma]

​@@Richard0503 I think theres about a 70% chance he will beat Jake. Boxing is a strange sport and upsets can happen so we cant discount anything. I do think that his experience and current condition should be enough to give him an edge over Jakes size advantage. I do see your point though and sort of feel the same way with Hans and Hikaru, like I beat a national master in USCF rated chess but I cant really brag that I beat a national master because hes now in his 70s and is no longer at a master rating, only between 2000-2100. down from his 2350 peak. Another good parallel is when Kasparov came back to play a tournament and got last place I think 2 years ago. Just because hes the second best chess player of all time, people cant really be that proud that they beat him in his current state. I do wonder if he could get into semi-competitive state again with enough effort. I know Anand for example is retired but can still have absolutely monstrous performances even these days. Maybe the fall off depends on the person.

[@kiritahikiwi4403]

@@zepeterinmaI think he meant if Tyson couldn’t walk more, but even then I’d still bet my paycheck on Tyson 😂

[@sinjoy13]

man, hes a good example to show that to be good at chess doesn't necessarily mean you are also intelligent

[@barryispuzzled]

Hans is so unlikeable. It's his arrogance that one day everyone will recognise him as better than them. It wouldn't be so bad if he could back it up but his results don't support his opinion of himself. The only conclusion is that he's a fantasist.

[@aximute]

He is full of it, if he will gain some wisdom he will be embarrassed by his stupidity.

[@elephantheart9988]

Sheesh, I mean I haven't followed Hans or seen his content much but after those comments: absolutely zero respect for this kid. He's got a lot of growing up to do. A LOT.

[@deputyvillageidiot]

So this guy Hans just accidentally admitted he’d rather not play to beat Hikaru, but to just let him age out-and this guy thinks he’s very smart.

[@jamescrenshaw5097]

Hans is delusional

[@coooolibri]

honestly, why is this guy even respected/ invited to a tournament, or is even allowed to attend? if you do this smacktalk without a backbone in any branche of the real word you will be sidelined. ridiculous how people can think he is smart, and anybody who is smart wouldnt try to go the psychological way towards a person like hikaru. you have to know it doesnt bother him in any way, way too much experience for decades. so why would anybody with the right mind try to trashtalk, when you know it will never affect your opponent, and you have nothing to back it up. hikaru stating he doesnt think he is playing crazy good chess at all.

[@seeker.8785]

Dear fellow KZbinr, why did you format your comment in this way, with all of these strange paragraph breaks? Are these supposed to be rap lyrics? :P

[@coooolibri]

@@seeker.8785 i type it on the pc, and it come out like that. i dont think im affecting it in any way^^

[@hawkslayers1]

He sadly has mental illness I don’t believe he’s childish he truly can’t be helped he’s gone past the point of saving

[@allphornunn]

In future videos I'd suggest priorizing the native aspect ratio for the overlay of the players instead of the prefect square of the board. You can still follow the moves on a stretched board but having the players distorted really tempers the fun of watching their reactions 😊

[@Nulrom]

"there will be a time when Magnus Carlsen will be at an ospice and I will go there and force him to watch me win vs Martin" me, 2024

[@Pedrenhique]

''The thing with Hikaru is I dont have to beat him today'' = im going to wait his prime to pass, imma out live Hikaru haha old man what a great human being Hans is

[@Nicodepico]

Litterally his whole argument its so stupid 😂

[@jenkem4464]

He's a petty and immature child.

[@sirgreenomilla3321]

I thought he was saying that he hi self is not in his prime yet

[@Pedrenhique]

@@sirgreenomilla3321 Well it could be that, but in the end he did say that he can beat Hikaru. I just think the whole argument its so petty and small, Hans sounds so immature here.

[@susbedo9258]

In the same interview, Hans also bizzarely said that he himself is the kindest, nicest and most humble GM there is 😂😅

[@richardfeynman2960]

Hans needs a psychologist or something.

[@nikolayiliev8985]

He now has Vlad the Implier as a mentor. Imagine what kind of shitshow is going on there...

[@herculesmwp7983]

Hans has convinced people he's somehow smart? XD

[@kylebroussard5952]

*I think Hans reached a point in his career where he accepted he will never be world champion, but he wants to remain a chess player for a living.* His solution: do everything possible to bait the world into watching him and mentioning his name. This theory helps explain a lot of his shitty behavior, childish antics, and overall see-through, faux emotions constantly on display. He talks like a fkn anime character in his videos. Half the time you expect the Pokémon song to come on in the background while he's talking... "I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST, LIKE NO ONE EVER WAS..." 😂🤡

[@jimeberlin1406]

Hans is just embarrassing himself. I thought he was supposed to be letting his chess do the talking?

[@Ketroc]

Why would they stretch the webcams. So amateur

[@masonclark531]

It was Hans ego distorting the camera quality

[@alternatefallacy9474]

Hans is a cheater. Confirmed.

[@carlnikolov]

Hans blunders during blitz but trash talk aside he is a good classical player. Magnus is the king of endgames, kramnik plays excellent positional chess, and hikaru speed chess is god mode

[@masterbeethoven8209]

Hans looks like he's been on the sulphate

[@kingsolo6241]

Hans should retire.

[@rudyflores4914]

Hans Neimanns favorite piece is the drama queen 😂🎉❤

[@bobscuttled3579]

Hikaru is a wizard

[@jamie1234591]

Sure “the ultimate” would be to beat Hikaru while he's still very strong! What a strange thing to say!

[@caseyhurlburt3561]

The funny thing about hand is there are a dozen gms younger then him that will crush him too.. so this idea where there is gonna come a day where he is just gonna be the best is insane.

[@ballisticcranberrypeat7777]

I’m sure plenty of people have already noticed and mentioned this, but Hans’ playing expression looks like a caricature of someone taking a painful shit.

[@asystat]

Hans is just full of himself, a crybaby, and for some reason full of resentment. What he says about hikaru being too old only shows that he is not capable of beating him in his prime. I hope he realizes this someday.

[@rudyflores4914]

Hans looks 45 and acts 12.. i thought he was European with his name and embarrassed when i found out he is a typical arrogant American thinking he can demolish Magnus😂😅🎉

[@NERDCoGaming]

Hans trying to be the new Jake Paul and go after players after their prime.

[@MckaiserDragon]

so hans wants to live in the shadows of the great players till they dont put their shadow onto him XD dont think thats going to work out

[@MohammedSamkari]

He's trying to emulate Bobby Fischer's persona to stir controversy, even going so far as to mimic the arrogance of geniuses. But in reality, his level barely reaches 2400 to 2500 at best

[@alexandrefreitas9295]

After the last words now I think above ALL Hans is very stupid and immature.

[@juliandiaz9367]

Once a cheater always a cheater, the fact that a fraudster is allowed to play with the players who follow the rules is a big mistake. If there's no punishment for cheating, the risk/reward shifts and it encourages more people to try and do the same. Magnus was right not to play against him, the rest of the players should do the same.

[@Chiungalla79]

I really don't understand why there haven't been a one or two years ban after he admitted to have cheated a couple of times.

[@PrometheanRising]

The punishment is getting put in a position where you have to play your betters in tournaments where they make it well nigh on impossible for you to cheat. My own theory is that Hans spent the time when he still had sufficient neuroplasticity to perform the work required to become the best cheating instead. Now he will have to live with that for the rest of his life.

[@someoneelse293]

If we don't allow him to play he'll always be able to say he wasn't allowed to play because he was too good.... there would also be the chance (however slim) that he could actually become the best and we'll miss it...

[@Chiungalla79]

@@someoneelse293 That reasoning would apply to other cheaters as well. So no punishment for cheaters, because the might use it for bragging and we might miss out on a genius. Does not seem like a conclusive argument to me. A better approach would be that we, in Hans' case would miss out on those wild loses after huge amounts of trashtalk. 😂

[@DudeWheresMyCardz]

​@@someoneelse293Who cares what he is able to say. We only care about facts

[@deezmuzts]

Bro, there are players that are both younger and ranked higher than you.

[@mightbefire]

he'll be in jail soon, no joke

[@chriswilson1968]

I always play c4 I just can't stop 😂

[@TheBossDroid]

Hikaru spoke for himself?

[@jimmy_iKoN]

I love watching Hans lose

[@rousseausp]

Hans is a child.

[@ThisSentenceIsFalse]

Toxic thinking.

[@big_normy]

Hans sounds like MGK😂

[@pauldow1648]

No sense of relativity..

[@jericosha2842]

The Hans Levy interview was just unbearable. I'm glad Hans got smacked in the tournament. I want him to play good chess, but that attitude deserves it.

[@oxndvvfkuhl7540]

isn t hans also around 30? he looks like it

[@jaylee6769]

Funny talk about egos. Hikaru has one of the biggest egos in chess aside from Magnus of course

[@randoprior4130]

Hikaru definitely has a massive ego. All of the best players of anything develop an ego. The difference I see is that Hans has his ego born from narcissism. Hikaru and Magnus have ego through being at the top long enough to expect themselves to do well. Hans is creating a reality for himself where he can never be or do wrong. Hans sounds like an edge lord reading his hyper-intelligent manifesto for nearly an hour speaking over anyone who dares to question his created reality during that interview.

[@SecretSauce8]

Hate to say this, but I'm starting to like Hans... 🤣

[@sergemerto256]

How is this guy even allowed into these tournaments? He should be banned tbh

[@RustCohleTX]

How embarrassing...

[@caseystrong9582]

What's up with Hans facial tics at the beginning of the match. Looks off as all hell.

[@concorde__]

He’s “calculating”

[@susbedo9258]

Something is buzzing down there 😅

[@masonstuart-hill4670]

Let your chess do the talking Hans. Oh wait.....He truly thinks everyone dislikes him because he is made out to be the bad guy or a cheater. Reality is he cant see past his own delusions and ego. He probably will be great, as there is a fine line between genius and insanity. But even if he broke every record, destroys Magnus every time they play, he will still not be fully respected as a person, because of how he treats and talks to others. He is 21 with a bigger ego than players that have dominated for years. He cant get through a conversation without saying "the truth/reality is" or insulting someone while bragging how great he is. Pre-match, he says he is in great form, eating players for lunch, post Hikaru, he is lacking experience, practice and form.

[@TheBossDroid]

oh dear. the Elon Musk of the chess world

[@seeker.8785]

Yeah... not very good trash talk.

[@matrix31003]

His concepts are insanely immature. Talking about height and age as a negative showcases a real fundamental misunderstanding how life works. When you are young, you are inexperienced. Experience and knowledge comes with age. Might be time to learn something Hans.

[@PerfectTimingProductions585]

“By then I’ll have 10,000,000 subs.” Lol

[@Abu_Hanifa99]

Kok orang gila berkompeten di catur

[@daidzamilija007]

big mouth nothing else

[@tiswa8108]

He is immature arrogant and a bit childish still his „betters“ sry but arrogance is a disease in chess I mean magnus is a great player but also arrogant like hikaru is and even Gotham can’t fully escape why do I think that ? Ignoring belittling and disrespect are not the tools of a humble person I don’t like him either but they are better ways to deal with a rude brat or a bitter old man (kramnik ) truly sad I got a bit back into chess after I dropped it in my teen years but the dismissive way critic (even if it is in part nonsensical) is handled is sad you take everything seriously even the dumb brat u don’t like and honestly hyping up a traitor who made part of his sport more or less irrelevant is still hard for me to believe I don’t care about his skill there were better players and there will be better ones still I mean he ,they made chess more popular again but that to the price of a legacy the current „best“ player seems to hold no respect towards but it’s working so far I guess still I hope classical gets a bit more recognition after the deathblow dealt to it but honestly not holding much hope still age humbles most in a sport where your mind is the most important we will see how those people will develop

[@knuckle-pie]

Karjakan gets banned for years over bad political opinions. Repeat cheater gets banned for 6 months.