The Monster Squad (Dead Meat Podcast #32)

[@DuchessRococoPuff]

The armadillos are a nod to the original Universal Dracula movie! They used them in that one because they were an animal that not a lot of people knew about at the time, so they seemed exotic and monstrous to audiences! Love your costumes, btw!

[@sydneybasinger1607]

Beat me to it ;) did you notice in Nosferatu that the way the portrayed wolves was with hyenas??

[@comingforya690]

Thanks for the awesome Tidbit.

[@princebloodgrave8097]

I think that the opossums were a nod to the original Dracula, too. Weren't they used as rats, in that movie, or another classic Universal Horror?

[@TV-Tony]

I think that was mentioned in the director's commentary as well.

[@Laruto722]

About the whole virgin thing, and your hangups regarding that, in the diary, the word "virgin" is probably translated from the German word "Jungfrau", literally "young woman". So it probably was more clear-cut than you thought. Though after all this time, you probably won't notice this comment. Love the podcast though :)

[@captain_hat6247]

Chelsea is the cutest werewolf I've ever seen. The makeup is awesome.

[@saltymisfit6566]

And just like that, you've wandered into the woods 😊

[@WolfmansGotNards]

48:08 - I'm so glad you get it now haha!! Thanks for the mention James.

[@DeadMeat]

Haha you the one!

[@trentthebeast1442]

OMG I love you two wwwwwoooooohooooo

[@WolfmansGotNards]

Trent the beast thank you dude.

[@trentthebeast1442]

No way he freaking replied OMG love you bru

[@trentthebeast1442]

I made a video for you dude it sucks but I tried😁

[@aim-to-misbehave5674]

Re armadillos - they were wandering around Dracula's castle in one of the super-early Dracula films (maybe the first one?) because the studio had got their hands on some and just...put them in the castle. People hadn't really seen them before so they were seen as super creepy. It's a great shout-out to very early horror.

[@aim-to-misbehave5674]

Yep, found it. Bela Lugosi, 1931. Armadillos in Transylvania. Because the director thought they looked creepy. There are also opossums for the same reason.

[@cissyiniguez]

58:58 When Dracula does that, there was a stand-in used when Dracula [Duncan Regehr] says "bitch" to Phoebe [Ashley Bank]. The filmmakers didn't want to "traumatize" the girl anymore than necessary cause she was already kinda afraid of the actor, so they used a double. The girl at the time didn't even know he said that until she saw the movie herself. 🙃

[@lightswitch8868]

Why does this remind me of that one Scooby-Doo movies where Fred, Daphne, and Velma get transformed into monsters and Shaggy and Scooby have to save them by going into the monster world. Pretty sure it was called the Goblin King or something Edit: It is called the Goblin King and Tim Curry played the Goblin King. The more you know

[@CatChaos369]

This sounds like fun film or is just me?! 😅

[@willhuey4891]

and it turned out that he was not really evil but the fairy was his daughter.

[@laylaruan]

27:05 Gillman actually is a name for the creature from the black lagoon, they didn’t try to change who he was

[@DeadMeat]

Oh shit really?

[@laylaruan]

Doesn’t sound as cool as the other name, but yep, same guy!

[@ronaldophillips7029]

Yeah they didn't even try the name oh well guess the can try it now

[@Marshall208]

The Monster Squad was honestly one of my favorite old time movies.

[@samwallace4088]

At 55:38 james ask a question and you can hear Lucy purr into the mic like she's responding.

[@antperez4605]

Only dude more qualified to take down the monsters than Van Helsing, is STAN HELSING

[@JMimsey]

James' face when he learns about the levels of purgatory and heaven makes me so happy!

[@SansMerci1013]

"Rock until you drop/dance until your heart stops/Rock until you drop/Dance until your feet fall off!" Love this movie!

[@dylanthomas1274]

This film actually has one of the coolest looking “wolf men” of all time. An updated look Lon Chaney Jr. had in the og film. I always liked that look over full blown werewolf’s for whatever reason, and practical makeup kicks ass over CG 9/10 times. Great podcast you 2! Hit me in the feels... Nards? Lol Happy October everybody!!!

[@willhuey4462]

ive always preferred full blown werewolf like the one show in american werewolf in london i mean the jaw dropping transformation.

[@alexnowak4921]

1.) Upload on my 18th birthday (hell yes) and 2.) IMDb says that 13 min were cut by executives. This film is a really solid homage to the 50’s, in the 80’s that I enjoy.

[@themuchdingdong]

Happy birthday

[@alexnowak4921]

Thanks my dude lol

[@vexllo]

I’m 18 too 😭🙌🏼

[@themuchdingdong]

@@vexllo happy birthday

[@vexllo]

Nathaniel Goritski thank you 😊 my birthday is August 13 tho

[@SansMerci1013]

Frankenstein actor, Tom Noonan, same actor who played the killer in Manhunter, and the axe-murderer in Last Action Hero with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[@frebu5379]

I really like the tattoo scene because it ties in how important balance of good and evil to him personally. He isn't just "somebody" he is a person who has personally felt what happens when good vs evil tips towards evil.

[@thatashgirl83]

Gonna bust out some Christian mythology. Limbo is on the edge of hell and is basically a place of waiting. People that hadn't necessarily sinned but who couldn't get into heaven....think unbaptized babies and people who didn't receive last rights. They are basically waiting. No punishment just hanging around. Purgatory on the other hand is like hell lite. In Latin Purgatory literally translates to place of cleansing. So it's a place where depending on the gravity of your sins you can do your penance and then move on to heaven. So it's temporary. Limbo is scarier because there isn't an end. You're basically just waiting for the end of times and for God to deal with you at that point. Which is why it's bullshit babies are stuck there.

[@gageronipizza1520]

You sinned you said bull s word

[@tianarhastings8372]

Babies being there depends on the depiction Other depictions does not have babies going there they go straight to heaven because they don’t have the ability to choose or not choose if they believe in the son of God and are innocent till they are able to sin. Even factoring in the sin of Eve they are innocent because of the son of God

[@comingforya690]

Lost Boys for life!!!!!!

[@cacho2112]

I love that movie

[@saltymisfit6566]

My parents lived 4 blocks from the bridge where the train scene was filmed when they were early in their marriage. My brother and I walked on it, it was so meta actually being on there 😁

[@a.a.g.h.1679]

I love that movie so much!!!

[@Clutterlicious]

"That's like finding out deserts get really cold!" 🤣. Had me rolling.

[@marcilenerose7488]

Armadillos were actually used because they were an uncommon animal at the time, so they were often put in horror movies because they were viewed as strange and unusual. I don't know if that is true, but there you go.

[@LittleAlternativeGirl]

Also they were in the original Dracula because apparently no one really knew what an armadillo was back in the day so that's probably why they used them as a homage to it.

[@18t32]

@@LittleAlternativeGirl oh

[@KhalbraeReal]

The "Police think it's a prank" trope was in The Blob (1959) too.

[@mrmusickhimself]

I still cry when Frankenstein's Monster gets sucked into the vortex and Phoebe tosses her bear to him. I'm 36, and I'm unashamed, this movie rules.

[@CatChaos369]

Watching this after cats came out and Chelsea’s make up looks better than those weird special effects 😂

[@wbrownshadow]

the podcast ive been waitin for I love Monster Squad

[@mikeparez]

Was born in 91 and love the lost boys lol

[@rustykuntz94]

Back in the day when this first aired (yes this played on over the air network TV) on TV they dubbed in Dracula saying to Phoebe “Give me the amulet....NOWWWW!” Had us kids rolling, what a great ride down memory lane.

[@leviphipps2462]

"Don't @ me about planes." - Chelsea Rebecca, 2018

[@TildaM1994]

This has to be my favourite movie as a kid, my sister owned it on VHS and sure I watched it in the 90’s and 2000’s but I still loved it. It is dumb but so so so fun, I still love to watch it when feeling down, been planning to get it on DVD lol

[@charliem9831]

I just spit out my drink when you said none of the boys realized they were virgins that is doesn’t say it needs to be a girl. I never thought of that until now.

[@paulwilson514]

Ruddy shooting the werewolf "Bang" and the man thanking him for death was my favourite bit 🐺

[@landontheicon4591]

This podcast is always something I look forward to!!! Thank you for all the hard work that you put into this!.

[@thegamercritic8967]

The Monster Squad kill count

[@darkflamemaster5207]

I seen it really funny

[@reaperyoufool8857]

agreed

[@secretraptor1064]

YAS

[@adamantpeterman8926]

Cool character background mortal kombat is the only kung-fu movie that has the greatest cgi and weird but cool fighting man

[@monsterterrence9503]

I would argue going to Limbo does not count as a kill. As we see Van Helsing again at the end. Should making the counting easier and increase the likelihood of you doing a Kill Count for this childhood favorite.

[@8ballmoe]

Can i have a slice of that Garlic Pizza? I wanna make sure im not a vampire

[@saltymisfit6566]

Even at 45 I tear up when Frank goes......scary and again when he gets sucked into the portal?? I so love Frank

[@TheWoodEyeLyes]

50:05 Aww Lucy licks the microphone! 🎤👅 It sounds so cute! Their reactions to it are also very cute! ❤️

[@Hevvvyyy]

Respect the costumes , well played

[@ItsAndrewLOL]

A few years late, but thanks for covering this! I made sure to watch it before the podcast :) Really put me in the Halloween month mood ~ and your costumes are great, too.

[@omdoxus]

Who else Owns the Monster squad!🎃💕

[@vinsmoketravvy]

Of course!

[@omdoxus]

Ikr A CLASSIC!

[@TildaM1994]

My sister has it on VHS, my favourite movie as a kid, i watched it so damn often lol

[@WolfmansGotNards]

Never heard of it.

[@omdoxus]

@@WolfmansGotNards 😂

[@AMonitorDarkly]

That Alucard reference might sound hokey but it’s actually pretty embedded in Dracula history. It goes back to a 1943 film called Son of Dracula.

[@18t32]

Interesting

[@michaelbucher9001]

Yes and lon Chaney jr. who plays the Wolfman plays him

[@theeLonelyRedPanda]

I loved van helsing... Also I never noticed the german guy's holocaust tattoo. That's so interesting. And also if they remake this, and make it darker, that dracula dad shooting scene y'all said would be amazing.

[@harmonlanager2670]

Hell, just have him graze her so she still lives.

[@Femaiden]

8:36 "Dante is metal as f---" . .yeah, that's why Iced Earth wrote a 16 1/2 minutes song about it .

[@55bueller]

After a really hard day this is exactly what I needed! Thanks guys❤️

[@cissyiniguez]

I was one of the few that saw this movie in the theater when I came out and it's slowly starting to creep up in ranking on my all-time list. You also mentioned another that I highly recommend- _Night of Creeps_ a great 80s cheesefest with Tom Atkins. And if you're still looking into more 80s kinda in that same vein then _Night of the Comet_ is another go-to of mine.

[@MrBoyYankee]

One of the Most Underrated horror movie of the 80's. Chris Romero Cynthia Cronenberg Ray Cameron J.C.Hooper If you don't know about those references your a poser.

[@cissyiniguez]

@@MrBoyYankee If you haven't heard about it you should check out a channel named _Minty Comedic Arts_ he does a "10 things you didn't know about [insert movie]". If I remember correctly, he's done all 3 of these movies mentioned. And you forgot something⋯ Chris, Cynthia, and JC all attend Corman University.

[@crossiscool]

Night of the Demons is pretty rad too.

[@talesfromthehoodtv503]

Man i was born in 84 so in 89 and the Early 90s this movie was on all the time on cable and this is a classic, I've watched it so many times as a kid and its one of my favorites,wolfmans got nards

[@rose72545]

Trivia: the actor who plays Van Helsing in this was in the British Navy for 20 years, served in World War II, and was invalided out with the rank of Commander. He became a Shakespearean actor at the age of 42, performing first at the Shakespeare Memorial Theater in Stratford, and later at the Old Vic in London. He moved to the USA in 1969, and continued to appear in many theater productions, with the occasional tv or movie role thrown in. He would have been about 78 years old here in Monster Squad.

[@krystaleverdeen]

This was such an awesome podcast, I had a blast! Also, your costumes look amazing & I appreciate the extra effort you put into dressing up, it made this that much more fun :D

[@adamtherock2008]

One of the pilots is played by David Proval, who was in Mean Streets but also Richie Aprile in the second season of The Sopranos.

[@jessepayne7591]

I was born in 84 and the permanent record thing followed YOU from elementary through high school and college depending on pull. All it means is future educators and authority gets a heads up on us kiddos that are hard headed 😆

[@kevinhine9605]

I need a Texas Chainsaw Massacre series kill count

[@Bingoyamaguchi4]

Ikr

[@BryceDD]

He was #1 oml same I adore that series

[@thegourmetgorilla9739]

IKR

[@bat-seal6293]

Yes I'm in Texas I need it

[@erowid17]

👏 don't👏 request👏 kill👏 counts👏

[@bhgemini]

Loving Carebecc's werewolf makeup. I come back to watch this twice a year for the giggles.

[@DLAlucard]

Drive Thru is a pretty fun slasher by Brendan Cowles and Shane Kuhn. I think it would make for a good Kill Count episode because of some amusing, creative and/or brutal kills. Though even a podcasts would be fine. The summer of the movie is this; Horror gets Super Sized when Horny The Clown, the demonic mascot of "Hella-Burger," starts slashing Orange County teenagers with his meat cleaver from Hell. Personally I loved this movie when I saw it on the horror channel a while back. So I hope a horror fan like you will as well.

[@Nickyc997]

Drive thru you say

[@michaelscheer5032]

there are some great kills in drive thru

[@djriv2010]

Van Helsing (2004) is a schlock masterpiece

[@Horrorfreak106]

God this movie was THE SHIT when I was in 3rd grade. I remember watching a clip on youtube called "My name is Horace!" and I saw it and I was amazed by how cool the gillman looked in this movie, so I tracked it down on netflix and rented it, fell in love and eventually bought the DVD and watched it probably every other day. That was a great summer.

[@tootired775]

I binged all of your podcasts this past weekend! Finished up just as this was uploaded! Love this podcast and these awesome people ♥️

[@cruisematt8585]

Love you guys! Really enjoyed this. Multiple members of my family have been teachers, principals, administrators, and a superintendent; unfortunately permanent records are real lol. 💜

[@crossiscool]

I was born in 1990 and my parents recorded Monster Squad and Gremlins 2 off HBO. I wore that VHS out when I was a kid. I found Shaun/Shawn's Stephen King shirt on Amazon. Totally worth it. I'm so glad you guys liked the squad. Freaking classic.

[@kjl4983]

Please I need a Kill Count for this with all the lore and hidden details please James!

[@daerob1]

Great podcast. It’s the first one I’ve watched (usually stick to the kill count) and was laughing my ass off.I was fortunate enough to have enjoyed this masterpiece as a kid and still watch it to this day!

[@root-beer]

Can't wait for the Evil Dead kill counts

[@dylanthomas1274]

ᎰᎡᎬᎦᏁᎾ ᏔᎯᏓᏦᎥᏁᏣ ᎮᎯᏁᎿᎦ is that a thing? Like it’s been announced?

[@root-beer]

Dylan Thomas yes

[@D_Doyle]

Groovy

[@SansMerci1013]

Lucy is feeling those wolfman claws you're stuntin', Chelsea

[@sarahmemmott6282]

Chelsea's laugh at 15:08 is absolutely life-giving

[@urielt1504]

is it weird to say that James' white makeup hides his perfect chiseled cheekbones?

[@airs6793]

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[@airs6793]

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[@kazuyamiyuki7061]

Tbh.......I was thinking the same thing.............

[@Vampgurl202]

And here I thought Wolfman had nards... No, but she's kinda adorable as a werewolf

[@urielt1504]

permanent records are real. however teachers rarely acctually put stuff in them. more intimadation than anything.

[@marcilenerose7488]

Omg you makeup is fucking awesome!!!

[@nina__serafina]

Chelsea does cosplay and I think she did the makeup (based off her Instagram)

[@johnnyoutlaw6534]

Lol. Chelsea can’t stop moving her hands. Gurl is LOVING the glamour of long monster nails.

[@Diggum13]

This is seriously one of my favorite movies of all time, I wore out my taped copy of this when I was a kid and it’s probably responsible for the person I am today

[@urrutiap]

Monster Squad is one of those classic late 1980s horror movies i grew up watching when they were on HBO all the time. I love the movie because its a tribute to all the old Universal monster movies. The Gill Man creature was cool and they had to make it look different than the Creature from Black Lagoon. Monster Squad's Gill Man creature the head looks more scarier and vicious to look more like a pirahna

[@kimberlybeth]

Movies for kids were very different in the 80s/90s and before. Loved this podcast. Keep them coming.

[@thecourrrr]

First time I saw this movie was back in 2015 and probably would have loved it as a kid. I'm a little bit younger than the two of you so missed out on alot of late 80s kids movies--though I loved the Goonies when I was growing up. Monster Squad is like the Goonies but with horror elements. Awesome podcast... been catching up the last few weeks.

[@stepharoth]

The fact that you two didn't like Lost Boys,,,,,, I am genuinely crushed 😭💔

[@simonpenum]

Jon gries also played the wolf man in fright night 2. Which only came out a year later. He absolutely kills it in both films. Uncle Rico rules

[@kaialexander6806]

I have a lecturer called Judis and when Chelsea said there's a level of hell where Satan is eating Judas over and over again forever, I got so concerned for my Research Methods and Statistics lecturer.

[@speabody]

I know you’ll never seen this but around 15:40 Chelsea says she loves the 80s obsession with 50s nostalgia. Then you MUST see Night of the Creeps, also by Fred Dekker. There are SO many things to love about that movie and that is one of them.

[@splinter4161]

James should've been a werewolf. And Chelsea should've been a vampire..... I'll eat them shorts now.

[@lightswitch8868]

That Splinter whatcha talking about Chelsea looks hot as a werewolf (I respect her if you guys are going to yell at me, but I can express my opinion)

[@splinter4161]

@@lightswitch8868 I have to agree with you there...

[@vinsmoketravvy]

Ever since he said they watched it on twitter i’ve been excited

[@thedisguise3538]

The "you really know monsters part" hits so differently than the rest of the movie. That was honestly really well done

[@derekconnors4128]

The plane says Browning Cargo, a reference to Tod Browning, director of Dracula.

[@evee334]

growing up, Monster Squad was all i watch on Halloween night when i was younger and it is still one of my favourites

[@sirjimmysavile310]

Armadillos are in Dracula's crypt in the original Universal Lugosi movie. This is a reference to that.

[@YourHighwayInTheSky]

My gay ass didn't know I needed to see James as a vampire until now

[@johaku99]

56:21 Lucy common on the Mic stand so adorable

[@danielunger4119]

Oh man, i loved this Movie when i was younger, but totally forget about it until now 😲 Thank you for that 😍

[@rolotomasi99]

So glad to hear your thoughts on this film. You should definitely check out Night Of The Creeps. It has the same wicked humor as The Monster Squad, but with an R-rated edge. The gore is also good, and the monsters are skin crawling-ly gross. I think you two would love it.

[@bentbliley]

Why is Were-Chelsea literally the CUTEST thing I’ve seen all day?!?!

[@tommurphy2950]

I love Monster Squad

[@casmd2131]

I was born in 2001 but my mom made sure I watched this movie while growing up, so it ended up being one of my childhood favorite movies.

[@BradyBunch317]

Loved this movie as a kid in the 80s and still love it! I have it on Blu-ray just to make sure I always have it. 💙

[@christianrock1307]

started watching kill count about a month ago. today my teacher made a jeopardy review and some of the categories were about horror movies, Halloween, etc. THANKS SO MUCH BECAUSE I KNEW LIKE EVERYTHING AND GOT EXTRA CREDIT FOR MY GROUP LMFAOOOOOO

[@kyleketron6418]

this movie is awesome. cool monsters, amazing effects and wonderful story.

[@thetasigma412]

Ok, so idk if you guys are still reading comments on stuff as old as this, but in case you are, I just want to point out a few things: A) The whole Alucard-Dracula thing is (i think) a reference to Son of Dracula where the titular Son of Dracula goes by the alias of Count Alucard. B) I’m pretty sure that the Creature From the Black Lagoon was nicknamed the Gill Man back in the original trilogy of films. Also, I think that you guys saw a slightly different version of the film to me (at least when it comes to the end credits song) because my version, in stead of saying ‘The Gill Man swimming in the pool’ said ‘The Creature From the Black Lagoon.’ Idk, stuff’s just weird like that. I love this podcast, and this I literally listened to this immediately after watching the movie. Loved your take on it and I’m glad you both enjoyed it as much as i did.

[@danielgarciajr.6115]

Y’all are great. Lol two people with great chemistry reviewing one my favorite movies from when I was younger. Awesome. Lol

[@brockbuster]

I’m amazed neither of you had seen this before, I’m the same age as James and I remember seeing The Monster Squad as a kid waaay back in the 90s, all the way down in Australia.

[@ronerbman22]

Fun fact - armadillo can carry and pass on leprosy.

[@Laylabelle97]

4:57 a bunch of people have probably already said this, but that's a nod to the original Dracula where they had armadillos in Dracula's castle

[@ghosthomi3525]

I watched this when I was like 5 or 6 and I loved it and would watch it everyday but then I took it to my dads and lost it and I miss it everyday. Such a great movie

[@_crashleybeth]

Idk how I managed it, I was born in 90 as well, but I GREW UP with this movie!! I watched it SO many times!!!

[@jacksoneflin6006]

I always forget that movies don't cost $5 everywhere. The Midwest is great (in select ways)

[@heydog9177]

Yes

[@omdoxus]

Congrats Your first!

[@cttobadang2962]

Congrats