The Monumental Tragedy of Mysta Rias' Graduation

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Depressed Nousagi

Depressed Nousagi

11 ай бұрын

Mysta Rias' graduation will send waves, and it's not even funny anymore. I hope him the best though.
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@jayoliver3568
@jayoliver3568 11 ай бұрын
It must hurt to think you flew so high, only to realize you just climbed out of a hole. I hope the guy can hold his head up with pride.
@ghetoknight7801
@ghetoknight7801 11 ай бұрын
?
@merx3guy
@merx3guy 11 ай бұрын
​@@ghetoknight7801he means being on top of the sinking ship that is Nijisanji
@ddwkc
@ddwkc 11 ай бұрын
@@merx3guy Sadly Anycolor isn't a sinking ship. Unfortunately exploiting talents till they are burned out is also quite lucrative in entertainment business.
@arifarrafi3302
@arifarrafi3302 11 ай бұрын
i didnt get why mysta leaving, can someone explain it in a short way?
@JulyYunico
@JulyYunico 11 ай бұрын
@@ddwkc Anycolor is a black company of vtubing
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo 11 ай бұрын
Imagine being so bad you make one of your stars decide to quit for good.
@arifarrafi3302
@arifarrafi3302 11 ай бұрын
i didnt get why mysta leaving, can someone explain it in a short way?
@chiq3531
@chiq3531 11 ай бұрын
@@arifarrafi3302 watch the video. But overall, Mysta is leaving because of accumulated stress from working under NijiEN's bad management + burnout. He was supposed to graduate way before Nina dis, but he decided to finish everything he was scheduled to do as a talent before so. Wll, now it's time, he'll graduate in the next month, for his best I hope.
@raccoonchild
@raccoonchild 11 ай бұрын
​@@chiq3531 To be frank he shouldn't have to watch this channel's 15-minute-long rambling. Just the short clip of Mysta explaining why he's leaving is enough.
@Incrediblycool
@Incrediblycool 11 ай бұрын
​@@chiq3531but i think he said that he just didn't really wanted to do it anymore, not anything abt the agency
@aorioncliffhearts8607
@aorioncliffhearts8607 11 ай бұрын
@@Incrediblycool i mean if you work for a shitty company. you would also think you wouldn't want to do it anymore either and quits
@baronsamedi5741
@baronsamedi5741 11 ай бұрын
I hope he doesn't lose his love for Vtubing. Leaving Nijisanji personally, to me sounds like a total win
@starburst98
@starburst98 11 ай бұрын
Join V-Shonen
@darkevilazn
@darkevilazn 11 ай бұрын
To be honest, anyone leaving the NijiEN/ID side sounds like win, given how bad the company is these days. I hope where ever else they go, they get treated as well as they deserve and as happy as they can be.
@redline841
@redline841 11 ай бұрын
We will see. If he doesn't, he better have good friends again because I might end up running into him again, quite literally :^)
@victoriazero8869
@victoriazero8869 11 ай бұрын
@@darkevilazn How is that people exclude JP when all Niji problem is behaving like average Japanese company?
@crestianomisse4613
@crestianomisse4613 11 ай бұрын
@@darkevilazn Is the JP side bad as well?
@vgc_ivan8391
@vgc_ivan8391 11 ай бұрын
Mysta isn't mentality weak. He grew a back bone that vox refuse to grow. He's done with parasocial weirdos. Its destroying his will to stream. Friendships are in stake because of them. He's actually speaking what Vtubers are doing. To stop these weirdos to have parasocial relationships with the streamer
@SenseiRaisen
@SenseiRaisen 11 ай бұрын
AND on top to be actually forced to cater to them too. HECK! i seen Altare literally make a guy stop to say weird stuffs in the middle of his Tears of the Kingdom endurance stream.
@Bam_Bizzler
@Bam_Bizzler 11 ай бұрын
I never watched his graduation video or know anyvof the issues but i thought it was just that niji is just the worst with how bad they raw dawg they're employees
@SenseiRaisen
@SenseiRaisen 11 ай бұрын
@@killerking2346 watch any K-pop stan and you will realize it isn't exclusive. AND THEY GOT A LOT OF FLAK BECAUSE OF THIS. Just watch Vox drama when he only got a friendly messenge from Reimu and how much she was attacked. I do believe he was burned not only from the people but from getting forced to deal with them without been blunt because Nijimanagement seems to don't care at all if they get flanked or had to deal with them. Mysta simple said: "SCREW THIS". And i won't blame him at all as i would feel the same too.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
i dunno bout not the parasocial shit, the channel still have bf crap but then again i never like a lot of members in nijisanji so i could be wrong
@araara6673
@araara6673 11 ай бұрын
Maybe it's the other way around, just from my lil knowledge about Vox's issue, think of it from a perspective of "fake it 'til u make it" type of situation, wherein Vox cultivate somehow, a shell for him to be' numb'? in a way that he could still withstand the issue, but as for Mysta, maybe he thought they could go on w/o him? per se, bec. he knows that they were kinda grew or can tolerate it (whatever the issue is),. this just imho, didn't see the gbye vod.
@AbsoluteCero
@AbsoluteCero 11 ай бұрын
Nijien management feels so unbalanced. On one hand, we have Ike and Elira having incredibly fond memories of their managers. On the other end, we have Zaion's case. It almost sounds like there's some real gatcha rolls for managers atm.
@chickenleg5359
@chickenleg5359 11 ай бұрын
Zaions case and all the freakin hate that has spawned from that has eaten away my mental health for many months. All I want is for things to return to normal and for ppl to stop crying that the management sucks and that talents SHOULD GRADUATE…. Honestly every time I hear people say they should all graduate I die inside
@Rar830
@Rar830 11 ай бұрын
@@chickenleg5359They should graduate though, it’s a trash company with cool people, they deserve better than Niji.
@shun-li8204
@shun-li8204 11 ай бұрын
Fuck better talent screenings. Anycolor needs better staff screening.
@rezafahlevi9659
@rezafahlevi9659 11 ай бұрын
@@chickenleg5359 Sadly it wouldn't stop
@chickenleg5359
@chickenleg5359 11 ай бұрын
@@Rar830 I mean yeah personally I don’t care if mysta graduates. Cus there’s no dumb dramas involved
@sae-
@sae- 11 ай бұрын
I have to disagree when you said he has the weakest mentally, he was so down to earth and he knew what he wanted and his how far his capabilities could take him. He was so outspoken and upfront about everything and when he was slapped in the face about the AR, the parasocial fans fucking his friends up, him getting stalked and his mom getting calls from strangers he said as much and complain about it without actually crumling. There’s always a point of how much you can take.
@awooga2577
@awooga2577 11 ай бұрын
what?? fans started calling his mom?? No wonder he left omg I hope he and his mom are safe…
@kiana1864
@kiana1864 11 ай бұрын
true. vox would always try to appease his fans from the beginning when the parasocial stuff was happening, but mysta was never afraid. but even if he was, he was brave enough to defend himself, be outspoken etc. he is not weak, he is really strong
@dearjosuke
@dearjosuke 11 ай бұрын
agreed. he’s very outspoken. when mika was getting harassed by people he immediately stepped up and defended her which was pretty goated of him to do
@kasupy_barrett85
@kasupy_barrett85 11 ай бұрын
​@@dearjosukei watched that Mika's stream and the clip to make sure i knew about his chadness. He is a true family guy (and mom's best son).
@kimnoir
@kimnoir 11 ай бұрын
Rather than weakest mentally, I feel like low tolerance is a better term.
@Pudding404
@Pudding404 11 ай бұрын
Mysta was so down to earth and didn't sugarcoat his words. Some of the stuff he said, i was skeptical he would breach his nda. It takes a level of self respect to leave after you made a name for yourself. I hope he made the right choice for himself, and from an outside perspective, it does seem like that.
@josueveguilla9069
@josueveguilla9069 11 ай бұрын
Mysta Rias should start his own travel channel, in my opinion.
@sotanghon9841
@sotanghon9841 11 ай бұрын
That would be a gamble tho
@arkanine8076
@arkanine8076 11 ай бұрын
@@Xochi_Mictlan6969 What's wrong with Aia, Aster, and Ver? I'm curious.
@arkanine8076
@arkanine8076 11 ай бұрын
@@holographicwing I sometimes watch her streams, so I have to admit that she can be pretty dull at times, but if I may ask, what was Aia doing during her past life exactly for you to think that way? Or rather, what is her past life identity?
@jeffnewlin6920
@jeffnewlin6920 11 ай бұрын
@@Xochi_Mictlan6969 I don't think they can create a channel or something, and use their past as a vtuber to get fame. It's probably against the contract to mention online you're a vtuber that graduated. From the things mentioned here, the company seems pretty greedy, so they wouldn't want a past vtuber from their agency using the name to get back their fame.
@arkanine8076
@arkanine8076 11 ай бұрын
​@@jeffnewlin6920 While it's true that mentioning your identity as a graduated vtuber is a breach of contract, said identity can still boost you if you decided to go back to streaming/content creation. It's not uncommon for fans of a graduated vtubers to look for "reincarnations" of their oshis, after all.
@littleyamini
@littleyamini 11 ай бұрын
Mysta’s graduation will be a catalyst for many more NijiEN graduations because of how relatable his reasons are. He is a strong one for pushing through with giving up his vtubing life to have his peace and that can give the others the push they needed to do the same to have theirs.
@brian_Austin27
@brian_Austin27 11 ай бұрын
I think it was Nina's really they were all broken krisis just got in so they didn't know her very well but thwy seem a bit upset about it to mysta leaving will just be the domino effect of after shock and nina said that she told mysta that she was leaving before ethyria probably not to upset them( millie reimou and enna was upset/angry because they felt like they could taken on the world with their outfit update) Ethyria has the best personality out of all the groups but is the most underutilized, almost left alone by the comapny until people startedd liking them and most people saw it because lazulight got stuff then everyone else and ehtyria came right after lazulight and mysta already wanted to leave both felt burnt out and u can see it in their content
@shinryouzen
@shinryouzen 11 ай бұрын
@@brian_Austin27Mysta’s graduation he said was already decided 5-8 months ago and Nina’s decision was more recent than his which is probably why Nina told Mysta about it. So for the past few months, many of the Niji EN livers already knew about Mysta graduating. He was just waiting for the rest of his content/merch/etc to roll out.
@Sachicodao
@Sachicodao 11 ай бұрын
As someone who's watched Mysta a decent amount I've gotta disagree about Mysta being emotionally/mentally vulnerable. Man has a lot of emotional intelligence, he just might have seemed vulnerable because he always talked about his feelings without much filter. He was the one to set his boundaries the best out of Luxiem when they blew up (or, well, the fastest out of the more sussy members) and many times after. The fact that he was still a streamer entertaining enough to keep his numbers and engagement despite being burnt out for half a year, even when he constatly talked about how he's not motivated anymore, is because of that honesty. I'm not sure about other fans but Mysta has never stopped being a comfort streamer, or made me feel concerned for his mental health in a way that I thought "ah, he's not handling himself well', which is something that makes me avoid some streamers here and there. This graduation also feels like a very conscious and healthy decision on his part, and shows that he knows what he wants and isn't afraid to make a big decision like this. While it's a tragedy in many points of view, paradoxically as a Mysta fan, I feel like it's a very valuable and inspiring event to have happened... I think it's an admirable thing to be able to stop when you've had enough, before it becomes too much.
@NicoDoesLP
@NicoDoesLP 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I have never thought that he doesn't have his stuff together. He's moving on, and his way is his way. I hope I can catch him on the flip side if he decides he wants to do that, but if not, I wish him all the love and the best of luck.
@Pfish1000
@Pfish1000 11 ай бұрын
I think you are thinking of him being emotionally vulnerable as him being emotionally exploitable or weak. A part of being emotionally open, is being emotionally vulnerable. He doesn't walk off his emotions where they are protected and nobody can get to/see them.
@anshnanavati
@anshnanavati 10 ай бұрын
Well said. As a fellow mystake I agree, it's a bittersweet feeling.
@ejlyt9148
@ejlyt9148 7 ай бұрын
Hey idk if you know bc this was awhile ago and I probably shouldn’t be saying this bc it’s taboo but he’s back. I wont name drop but a quick search should find him.
@vencelfoldi8236
@vencelfoldi8236 11 ай бұрын
I'm at a point where, messed up as it sounds, I'm actively hoping that my favorite NijiEN talents graduate. Even if just a half of the things that surfaced about the company over the past half a year are true, that'd already be more than enough for me to say that they deserve better, be it within or outside the context of streaming. Luckily time has proven that a big corpo graduate can absolutely return and not lose their core fanbase. I hope we'll get to see Mysta again in a different form, but even if not, I'm just glad he's leaving that cesspool behind him.
@Afrochilla
@Afrochilla 11 ай бұрын
it’s so bad rn, they need to gtfo of that black corp
@tylerdoesstuff6834
@tylerdoesstuff6834 11 ай бұрын
Me too. I love Scarle and Kyo, but I kinda wish they weren't involved with that company anymore. I'd support them if they went indie in a heartbeat.
@RaisonLychi
@RaisonLychi 11 ай бұрын
They're all better off somewhere else. Nijisanji has been on a different mode since they went public in stocks. Their talents well being is secondary to increasing profit for shareholders now, especially if they aren't part of JP.
@vencelfoldi8236
@vencelfoldi8236 11 ай бұрын
@@RaisonLychi Yeaaah. With Hololive, they have their fair share of skeletons in the closet, but I feel inclined to believe that they do everything in their power to avoid throwing their talents under the bus, or at the very least learn all the lessons when they choose to do so. Nijisanji, the EN branch at least, just comes off as the vtubing equivalent of the type of company we all know where if you have a problem your boss tells you "if you don't like it the door is open, hundreds are waiting outside who could and would do your job". Which kinda leads to their downfall, since contrary to what people expected when vtubing first took off, the majority of fans are ultimately far more loyal to the talents than to their franchise, unlike in the actual idol industry.
@Bam_Bizzler
@Bam_Bizzler 11 ай бұрын
​@@RaisonLychiwho could have guessed public stocks were a terrible idea
@Evillious_Oracle
@Evillious_Oracle 11 ай бұрын
I...have this itching feeling that Mysta Rias may just be the talent's (the actual person behind the VTuber) last VTuber incarnation. I would like to hope not, but just judging from the words he said in his announcement stream it just seems like the case... He may well just end up pursuing a different career path after he graduates, I wouldn't be surprised if he did. He has mentioned before (I think on a Minecraft stream..?) that if he were to have a different job asides being a VTuber, he'd be a social media manager. And I can definitely see him using his experiences in NijiEN as a guide and lesson on what to and not to do. Regardless of it all, I sincerely wish him the best in his future endeavors.
@greed-1914
@greed-1914 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, the way he put it was different from Nina. She sounded like she still enjoys it, but felt too restricted by being in the company. Mysta sounded more like he was plain done.
@a.d.--.
@a.d.--. 10 ай бұрын
I agree, it sounded like he was done with vtubing. He has said he likes to entertain but I think he wants to do it in another way, a complete different kind of content. Also, Mysta said streaming was his dream job so I believe very much that he is gonna be a streamer, an irl one maybe which works fine for me. Or he could found a way where he puts out content but can also maintain his privacy to the max and that would be perfect (hes doing what he enjoys and he avoids all the parasocial shit)!! There is this existing probability that hes gonna be around and Imma be on the look out!
@nyazer
@nyazer 11 ай бұрын
"Mysta graduating is not funny" You are so right. I feel so bad for Mysta, I'm pretty sure that niji as a company played a big role in his decision, and I'm pretty sure we will see more graduation this year. This year has been nothing bad news for niji, I hope they crawl out of the hole they're currently in
@noe4354
@noe4354 11 ай бұрын
Its not funny but it aint that shocking either
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
i actually cracked. but finana quit would kill me ngl
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 11 ай бұрын
​@@akira8393 Finana is too deep in management's lap to graduate.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
@@DinnerForkTongue yeah so does any other big names there and yet they were still fired
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 11 ай бұрын
@@akira8393 Which ones?
@Starrii_Skiies
@Starrii_Skiies 11 ай бұрын
I legit cried when I heard the announcement. I had a sneaking suspicion that he would graduate, but it pains me to say that he actually is. He’s one of my Oshis and I’ll miss him a lot. I was introduced to Niji because of him, so this is absolutely heartbreaking. I hope he finds success in whatever he does next though.
@smugIvy
@smugIvy 11 ай бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, how did you get the suspicion? Were there any signs?
@Lyres-Liar-In-The-Lair
@Lyres-Liar-In-The-Lair 11 ай бұрын
@@smugIvy Can't talk for op, but he just seemed so much more, and so much more dissatisfied everytime, his relationship with the company being dragged further and further down that I honestly felt like he would be the first
@victoriazero8869
@victoriazero8869 11 ай бұрын
What do you mean suspicion? He announced his graduation unofficially early in the year
@MahGray
@MahGray 11 ай бұрын
First time?
@Starrii_Skiies
@Starrii_Skiies 11 ай бұрын
@@MahGray I would say yeah, since he’s one of my Oshis
@KeebeThePlush
@KeebeThePlush 11 ай бұрын
Even niji isn’t safe from the July safe, and this month they’ve claimed 2 of the best members from there
@Limegreenedragon
@Limegreenedragon 11 ай бұрын
Mysta will be graduating next month
@MUGEN44
@MUGEN44 11 ай бұрын
@@Limegreenedragon "uH aKcHUaLly"
@valariechesire8891
@valariechesire8891 11 ай бұрын
Yes but it was announced this month.
@floofzykitty5072
@floofzykitty5072 11 ай бұрын
Mysta is also huge in Japan. When I went on exchange to Japan I saw Mysta’s birthday banner in the Tokyo underground and I even saw people with him as their wallpaper.
@user-vb4go8qi9x
@user-vb4go8qi9x 11 ай бұрын
Mysta was actually cool. Wish him the best in all his future plans
@yayamiki
@yayamiki 11 ай бұрын
It looks like yesterday that Yugo left, and Nijisanji EN is already on it's 4th graduation...
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC 11 ай бұрын
I would call it a loss. Companies calling it a graduation are simply hiding the truth. Nina graduated. Mysta will be graduating. They are leaving without an ill atmosphere. They were not fired liked Zaion and Gundou Mirei nor released without comment like Yugo. Niji EN has lost/will lose 4 but has had only 2 graduations. The distinction is important as it shows the situation there at the time of the loss.
@yayamiki
@yayamiki 11 ай бұрын
​@@MotoroidARFCNow to think about that, yeah, you're right
@aloelover6012
@aloelover6012 11 ай бұрын
​@@MotoroidARFCThing is, Mirei Gundou DID graduated... but it was marred thanks to the whole Baseball joke drama, compared to Nina's graduation and maybe Mysta's.
@MotoroidARFC
@MotoroidARFC 11 ай бұрын
@@aloelover6012 that's why I don't consider her departure as a graduation. Suspended for months and then the company announced she was leaving. That's not a graduation. That's a termination. That's being corn holed in public and being told to smile happily about it. Four years didn't mean a thing to them.
@ajyechani3399
@ajyechani3399 11 ай бұрын
I like how Mysta made the metaphor of a candle during his Announcement, and it made sense for me. Everyone of them are a candle, and the light of the candle defines the effort they give, the stress they face, and more... and since Mysta keeps lighting and lighting his own candle, recieving more stress, plus his existing troubles before even lighting his candle, eventually, the candle with melt itself out and die. I think I'll view it as... Mysta's candle is already cracked and small before he light it(which indicates that he joined the company), and since he grow brighter and brighter, he melts more faster. Now, he reached his end, a month worth of light till he's gone. I'll always cherish the memories.
@roxrequiem2935
@roxrequiem2935 11 ай бұрын
Watching these talents graduate one after another really got me jaded and afraid of getting attached to these characters. Every Oshi I had graduated in a big f*ckin bang some tragic some not. Kiryu Coco, Tsukumo Sana, Zaion Lanza, Nina Kosaka, now its Mysta Rias. Ofc some of the talents I like are still active but it hurts more when you took them for granted and then they go poof. No more asacoco to feed my addiction, no more bread to fill my hunger, no more genshit gremlin to tell me about the shota meta, or alcoholic boomer mom trying to control her chaotic children. Now, I can't believe I miss the detective that f*cked up rice.
@thunderwe_ryesiam
@thunderwe_ryesiam 11 ай бұрын
Although I'm mainly into Hololive, I'm also a big Niji fan and Mysta was the first Niji liver I watched and who got me into Nijisanji, seeing him graduating is very heartbreaking and I hope he doesn't just disappear from the Vtuber world Edit: So...uhhh...guess who got some good news
@YourTypicalMental
@YourTypicalMental 11 ай бұрын
In the same boat. Nina was my Niji oshi. I was/am pretty parasocial with her so I was inconsolable when her graduation was announced.
@Qizenchi
@Qizenchi 11 ай бұрын
same here. I watch nijisanji. Im happy that the good one is graduating since they will be free. but i hope that they do not stop their carrier.
@arien6882
@arien6882 11 ай бұрын
AR Live cancellation + Mysta wanting to graduate 5 months earlier really adds more context on why Luxiem was so vocal on being disappointed with niji. It was the very thing that could’ve solidified luxiem and ethyria as being complete groups. Wasted opportunities all around
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
it was already wasted with the bf crap. there was nothing more to be done for
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 11 ай бұрын
Now they're solidified, yea. As two cars missing one wheel each.
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys 11 ай бұрын
I'm gonna miss Mysta. I'm happy for him that he acomplished all of his goals. He just got burned out from streaming and his mental health is deteriorating so I can see why he's graduating.
@shanaya2797
@shanaya2797 11 ай бұрын
The fact that mystas personality and the way he was so honest about stuff got all of us so interested in him and so attached is crazy i hate how time went by so fast and how i got so attached to his character. its scares me as i havent even cried like this EVER over a content creator. its probably because with vtubers we never know how their really doing or if their ever going to actually return in any form and its scares me because of this feeling As if its sm1s actual funeral. its makes me now scraed of ever loosing anyone in my life suddenly like this i cant imagine it. his graduation really opened up my thought and i hope the best for mysta in life and for the people around him (this took me 10 whole minutes to write because i started crying again lol...) edit: And ik since yugo returned as an indie vtuber, some of us deep down might have this false hope that they might even return as indie vtubers but if your a mysta fan and know how he is, most of us know that he likely wont even return for the safety for him and his mother. we all know how close he is to his mom and how random strangers calling up his mom was probably where it hit him that he should stop or leave the company that clearly cant manage properly. and since he's reached his goal of 1M there was nothing stopping him from leaving since he was thinking about it for a long time and he was slowly losing interest we all know it deep down without actually thinking about it thats why its harder to take in wether he returns or not its a small possibility but we know its not gonna be anytinme soon at all... edit: FORGET ALL OF THAT HES BACKKKKKKKKKKKKK ALL HAIL KURO 🙏🙏🙏
@xcileter2063
@xcileter2063 11 ай бұрын
I soo agree with this
@astranix0198
@astranix0198 11 ай бұрын
What's yugo's new ch?
@CuriousNeon
@CuriousNeon 11 ай бұрын
@@astranix0198 unnämed
@astranix0198
@astranix0198 11 ай бұрын
@@CuriousNeon Thank you
@kaeyasboobwindow5330
@kaeyasboobwindow5330 11 ай бұрын
Highly disagree with the comment of him having the weakest mentality. He doesn't tolerate BS and knew what was good for him, that's all, and recognizing that and taking action on it especially in an industry with a lot of weird and toxic people takes a strong mind.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
nope
@orangejuice8881
@orangejuice8881 11 ай бұрын
​@@akira8393wdym
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
@@orangejuice8881 him being the strong mind? yeah i dont think so
@Dxguwu
@Dxguwu 11 ай бұрын
@@akira8393stfu, you literally told Mysta to stop breathing in a video before💀. Do you think you have any human rights to say something? Nah
@SpoiltLittlePrincess
@SpoiltLittlePrincess 10 ай бұрын
Setting boundaries and walking away from shitty people and situations is one of the hardest but best thing you can ever do for yourself. I imagine people do this to you all the time to gain peace. You see it as running away, but they're achieving peace and freedom. It's good and healthy and right. @@akira8393
@IronRoseMaiden
@IronRoseMaiden 11 ай бұрын
The day Mysta anounced his graduation started just like the day Nina anounced hers, I woke up and decided to doomscroll Twitter to check out fanart and what my oshis are up to and I was smacked in the face with a graduation announcement. Only difference was that my denial lasted only a second
@billybased64
@billybased64 11 ай бұрын
For me, what was the initial catalyst of yabs and bad news was when their discord convos were leaked. Kind of pulled back the veil and made Fulgur and Vox look like tools. Mysta was talking about really personal stuff. And alot of talents had their own individual yabs. Finana had her lil drama when she censored some words in her chat. Yugo was just the first casualty and proof that they expanded too fast after Luxiem when five out of the last six waves have had a termination or graduation. EN Management must have been overwhelmed with how many waves they put out so quickly. And then things got really parasocial when the boys came into town. Mysta seems like the most mentally sound seeing as how he doesn't want to cater to his most toxic fans anymore. I'm sure he got tired of being the Nijis court jester. That shit with Reimu and Vox really turned me off of him in general.
@waifudestroyer2120
@waifudestroyer2120 11 ай бұрын
This. That whole incident set off some pretty bad red flags for me. People made it seem like not that big of a deal, but I wasnt having any of it. It completely turned me away from niji en content and I can confidently say that I dodged a bullet there
@waifudestroyer2120
@waifudestroyer2120 11 ай бұрын
I do still listen to the music their talents put out though. It's not everyday that a vtuber releases a super high quality cover of exec phantasmagoria from ar tonelico
@AceArata
@AceArata 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, seeing the discord leaks kinda disenfranchised me from Niji early on and made it hard for me to like them to begin with. Sure I'd watch Lazulight clips occasionally, but never really watched streams. Then Finana's bullshit kinda just made me go "Eh. Nah. Im not gonna be talked down to. Hololive never treated us like this." Then HoloTEMPUS debuted mere weeks later, securing the fact that I had no reason to go back to Niji anymore.
@cemanz
@cemanz 11 ай бұрын
"Family" Right?
@frey439
@frey439 11 ай бұрын
@@AceArata may i know whats with the finana bullshit one about?
@PseudoWounds
@PseudoWounds 11 ай бұрын
Mysta graduating is absolutely massive. One of the biggest EN vtubers, also the biggest L in a series of Ls from Niji EN.
@moadesuka
@moadesuka 11 ай бұрын
I really started to cry because I’m not honestly over Nina’s but I’m glad he’s stepping away from something that’s draining him and I hope he’s gonna do well when he’s gone
@Kikker861
@Kikker861 11 ай бұрын
Mysta was my pick for best Luxiem vtuber. I guess I will have to find his reincarnation like a buddhist monk.
@Patches887
@Patches887 11 ай бұрын
I will never forget Selen’s art contest stream and how management fucked her up. She was FURIOUS and had to hold back the words she wanted to say cuz u know (under contract). In my eyes Selen is the most loyal and hardest working Niji en member.
@kadarak1
@kadarak1 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder what will be the final straw that will make Selen just snap and decide to graduate also.
@oomay1925
@oomay1925 11 ай бұрын
Not denying that the conditions of Nijisanji needs a lot of improvement, but I think the BIGGEST reason Mysta is leaving is because of all the wrong attention he got while being a Niji liver. Obssessive fans, and dedicated haters. He and even his family were stalked, doxxed, and harrassed often. I think when he said that it's the "people that make Nijisanji, not the company" along those lines, he was trying to remind viewers that the people behind the livers are still people. I think he felt like he wasn't being treated as a person anymore that pushed his mental to no longer want to be in the company. If you pay attention to the things he's been saying around the graduation, then it's obvious the main reason he's leaving is because of the unattractive part of the community and people you attract being a big corpo vtuber. I think Vox also pretty much confirmed this recently when he talked about Mysta's decision. There's also a fan who got to interact with Mysta in game (a recent collab with Luca) that mentioned after stream ended, Mysta stayed for a while to thank everyone for their support and also mentioned "please don't forget we're also people"- this was a day before he announced his graduation.
@ajinkyatarodekar9099
@ajinkyatarodekar9099 11 ай бұрын
Wait, his family got doxxed?
@skyisthelimit5078
@skyisthelimit5078 10 ай бұрын
​@@ajinkyatarodekar9099please dont forget we're also people - clearly directing at nijisanji because of how they operate. They dont care about their talents. Wake up
@edenromanov
@edenromanov 11 ай бұрын
Mysta was always a little unhinged I can see why he's graduating and im pretty sad about it but I'm also not surprised, bro was always so honest maybe too honest, wishing him success in whatever he does from here.
@tomface55
@tomface55 9 ай бұрын
Good news, nerds. Hes back.
@sonaflour
@sonaflour 11 ай бұрын
i was never really a mysta-watcher, but he was one of the reasons i even found out about niji in the first place. i remember thinking after nina’s graduation “thats so sad.. but as long as shes happy with her choice. hopefully no one else graduates soon” and BOOM the next day i wake up to the text from my friend “MYSTA RIAS IS GRADUATING???”
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
and i hope you're ready for more
@AlejandroMartinez-ji1xe
@AlejandroMartinez-ji1xe 11 ай бұрын
The Zaion drama left me perplexed. Just seeing fans messages of how she fucking deserved it and other members of Niji throwing shade at her. It just makes me wonder what kind of culture the company has, in extension the fans.
@definitelynotanAIchatbot
@definitelynotanAIchatbot 11 ай бұрын
Nijisanji has always had a culture of bullying. Just look at Sasaki Saku and Yorozu Roa. They literally forced other members to quit. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
that's just vtuber fans really... even on the indie side you have people going nux vshojo stuff
@Spartan-sz7km
@Spartan-sz7km 10 ай бұрын
​@@definitelynotanAIchatbotelaborate
@definitelynotanAIchatbot
@definitelynotanAIchatbot 10 ай бұрын
@@Spartan-sz7km Elaborate how? The clique culture of Nijisanji hasn't exactly been documented in a Wikipedia article, if that's what you're expecting. It is, however, well-known among the JP fanbase. Forgive me for not scouring and translating ancient 2ch threads for your convenience.
@vanveleca
@vanveleca 11 ай бұрын
Really hope he comes back as an indie someday
@Daddy137
@Daddy137 11 ай бұрын
He already has lol
@thealphasystem_
@thealphasystem_ 11 ай бұрын
​@@Daddy137what?? What's his new channel? Isn't jt like... Forbidden by their contract?
@Daddy137
@Daddy137 11 ай бұрын
@@thealphasystem_ afaik it's his og account. Blu Baku
@vanveleca
@vanveleca 11 ай бұрын
@@Daddy137 WHAT
@BlaZay
@BlaZay 11 ай бұрын
​@@Daddy137 👀
@syaasy4416
@syaasy4416 11 ай бұрын
aww man i cant imagine how it would feel like when its time for Selen. i like that toxic dragon
@definitelynotanAIchatbot
@definitelynotanAIchatbot 11 ай бұрын
Selen and Pomu are confirmed to be the next to leave.
@aloelover6012
@aloelover6012 11 ай бұрын
​@@definitelynotanAIchatbotWhere's the proof, seriously, stop spreading lies and misinformation, that comment of yours of Finana was a total lie, so shut up already.
@wuxian1
@wuxian1 11 ай бұрын
​@@definitelynotanAIchatbotby who? why? when?
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 11 ай бұрын
Everytime I see a NijiGraduation, I rush to tita Millie's channel, biting my nails. (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠) I don't really watch Mysta, but him leaving might be an omen; he's one of their biggest stars. (⁠๑⁠•⁠﹏⁠•⁠)
@definitelynotanAIchatbot
@definitelynotanAIchatbot 11 ай бұрын
Millie was part of the mean girl clique that bullied Nina out of Nijisanji. Enna was the main culprit, but Millie and Reimu were active participants.
@aloelover6012
@aloelover6012 11 ай бұрын
​@@definitelynotanAIchatbotOkay, seeing your other comments, now you're just spreading misinformation... fucking stop.
@MichaelKing015
@MichaelKing015 11 ай бұрын
​​@@definitelynotanAIchatbothis guy LMAO het a life dude
@araara6673
@araara6673 11 ай бұрын
Ok lang yan, but truly sorry to hear that, Millie is also one of my oshi, but grew up first in the Holo scene, alam naman natin kung ano nangyayari behind, and as a swagapino, be stronk. Pabayaan mo lng nagkoment na tulad nito, tas ikatok mo yan sa kahoy brader, wc to speculate peo dinamay pa yung iba, ina nya, umay
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 11 ай бұрын
@@araara6673 I've been griping about this because Millie had a ticket to Hololive via Moona during her 'scammer' days. I understand & respected her decision, but yea, as they say: _buset na Lotto yan._ (⁠ノ⁠ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ⁠)⁠ノ⁠彡⁠┻⁠━⁠┻
@ratpoison347
@ratpoison347 11 ай бұрын
I heard about the graduations, but felt like it would never reach the stars I really cared about. Even Nina didn’t hit that hard. But Mysta and Luxiem is literally my favorite wave and it’s devastating that he’s leaving. I hope he can keep his model and secretly hope they still do colabs
@Subukuru
@Subukuru 11 ай бұрын
Mysta was one of the first vtubers I was interested in. I quickly drifted once I found my oshis but I have been following him either way. I’m sad to see him go but to be honest I expected him to leave like a year ago. I’m really glad he’s been able to make a decision that’s right for him
@marikuborlado
@marikuborlado 11 ай бұрын
1:10 he really did. Actually Vox said that Mysta taught him a lot about vtubing and he looks up to him. I will say that he isn't mentally weak. If you watch his Zatsu he had High EQ and the fact that he is leaving is the proof of it. He is always straight forward and always pushing the limit.
@CookieTheFemboy
@CookieTheFemboy 11 ай бұрын
Man im gonna miss mysta 😭
@spicy1615
@spicy1615 11 ай бұрын
It took til his graduation for me to understand the pun in his name
@emmanon6664
@emmanon6664 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's really tough. I think everyone i watched from niji graduated, yugo was my oshi and that was hard to recover from, and now that I'm finally open to vtubing again nina and mysta are gone. And somehow it's streamers perfect for my timezone that suffer.
@MrKgn1994
@MrKgn1994 11 ай бұрын
Im wondering what deals were being made around AR live in order for the cancelation to take such a big toll on everyone
@altair5072
@altair5072 11 ай бұрын
i believe it hurt everyone because of how much hard work and effort they were putting into it. each and every one of the talents was working their asses off to make sure AR live was a success. for it to be cancelled for such a bullshit, coverup reason would be enough to burn anyone out.
@BlaZay
@BlaZay 11 ай бұрын
It's probably got to do with the efforts leading up to the event and that got wasted because of cOvId. We can never truly know how much they prepare in advance for those, but I sure as hell would've been just as salty if months of offline work got discarded because of that.
@sweetmeloday5935
@sweetmeloday5935 11 ай бұрын
​@@holographicwing They were doing rehearsals and flew to Japan just for it. 5 waves of EN were preparing for it, and it was probably quite a hassle to go through. I''m not particularly sure of the procedure they went throught though. They might have planned on creating a live stream or just probably a recording of their performance. And if it was a recording, and they were halfway through the practice and suddenly thought "nah we will scrap it" after you came back home to your own country then bruh. If it was the live stream, and they already have made progress on the practice then the event was stopped then what was exactly the purpose of flying to Japan? It probs felt like a waste of time and efforts being thrown into the trash kind of thing. And if Mysta said his been having talks with his friends about graduating 8 months ago, and knowing so that Nina would have planned as well. They would have probably wanted for all of them to be together to do the AR Live. These are just baseless speculations, take it with a grain of salt. From what I remember, the AR live was supposedly the 5 waves, Lazulight althrough Noctyx, were getting their 3Ds all together in 1 live. Though the people who could only see it are the ones who bought tickets for it.
@Axesjackson
@Axesjackson 11 ай бұрын
​@@holographicwinga
@mimoyfalcon2153
@mimoyfalcon2153 11 ай бұрын
​@@sweetmeloday5935it was a recording
@oniitto5584
@oniitto5584 11 ай бұрын
2:00 True i was introduced to nijisanji en thanks to luxium
@okzzzzz
@okzzzzz 11 ай бұрын
Mysta used to be my oshi but it personally for me started getting hard for me to watch his streams because he was clearly not enjoying his job anymore hes not hiding it. When i stopped calling him my oshi a week later his graduation was announced and i cant help but feel bad like i dont enjoy his streams anymore but i never lost my respect for him as a person especially knowing all his dreams and expectations about being in a big vtuber corporation were crushed. I just hope him and his family enjoys the rest if their lives that would bring me more joy than seeing him locked up in nijisanji
@altair5072
@altair5072 11 ай бұрын
this is a really hard thing to deal with. I want to see nijisanji succeed, i truly do. but the fact is the company is doing nothing to change. if you follow both EN and JP you can see just how differently the two branches are treated even within the company. it feels like nowadays the EN talents have to fight so hard to do literally anything. they're all so stressed out all the time over various things and it hurts to watch. I don't blame mysta for being sick of it. i didn't even really watch him and i could feel just how fed up he was with everything and it breaks my heart knowing there may be others inside who feel the same. I'm terrified to think about if my oshi is next. EN as a whole has not been able to recover fully since AR live, and things just keep getting worse and worse despite anyone's best efforts to boost morale (like pomu's massive cover project) i agree with you that mysta's graduation is monumentally fucking historic. Luxiem felt unshakeable to me, and to a lot of us. Untouchable. the fact that one of the biggest members of the biggest wave in EN is leaving will not go over smoothly. his reasons are incredibly valid and i support him completely for his decisions, but i really hope this sends a message to anycolor that they need to do better.
@side7oldtype298
@side7oldtype298 11 ай бұрын
Nijisanji EN's graduation chopping block can be sum up into two words: "Crew Expendable"
@Rar830
@Rar830 11 ай бұрын
Suicide squad The first one
@TheDarkestPhoenix
@TheDarkestPhoenix 11 ай бұрын
I've always had an issue with Nijisanji, mainly because I disagree with their approach of shotgunning talents out and then not properly supporting them afterwards unless they magically hit it big. Not sure I could call that "tribalism" though. Seeing them collapse is cathartic, though I do feel for the talents.
@ausgod538
@ausgod538 11 ай бұрын
You have to be delusional if you think they are collapsing. They have 178 members and making a ton of money. There's 0 chance of this happening
@NagaManga
@NagaManga 11 ай бұрын
This domino effect honestly makes me wonder when NijiEN’s management lost its mind. It must of been sometime late last year because I highly doubt the current management would’ve tardrangled Finana when the “educate yourself” crap happened. Makes me wonder if Xsoleil debuted earlier in NijiEN’s history then Zaion wouldn’t’ve been shitcanned. Pure speculation on my part, but I do wonder what staff changes were made that gave way to a management that would list a poorly done dark joke as a reason for termination.
@Rar830
@Rar830 11 ай бұрын
Didn’t Gundou get kicked for making a baseball joke?
@NagaManga
@NagaManga 11 ай бұрын
@@Rar830 Yes but that was JP management, not EN. I guess one possibility is that EN management slowly became more independent as time went on and by the time of Xsoleil had stopped having JP management check in on them, allowing them to make their own rules. Could be talking out of my ass though, but I feel like one day we might find out.
@NagaManga
@NagaManga 11 ай бұрын
@@Rar830 Also keep in mind that both managements have their own biases and what is deemed to be appropriate. NijiJP couldn’t let the baseball joke slide due to sponsors and the online backlash. NijiEN wouldn’t let the r*pe joke slide due to being snowflakes, Twitter freaks, and in general NijiEN’s fanbase being more… ya know… filled with the kind of people that would seal clap and go “YASS KWEEN” when Finana decided to be an uptight lil’ activist.
@wuxian1
@wuxian1 11 ай бұрын
​@@NagaMangasaying that not letting a r*pe joke slide is snowflake behavior is fucking crazy and sick. disgusting.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 11 ай бұрын
Mysta is not mentally weak. He is INFLEXIBLE, and vehement. You can't even begin to compare him to the male!Rushia that is Vox.
@zaknotkyle
@zaknotkyle 11 ай бұрын
To be honest if another Lucien member or any of the Lazulight members graduate, that’s when we’ll finally see Niji change. If some other graduation leaks are true, Niji’s world is going to be ROCKED.
@BepsiZer09
@BepsiZer09 11 ай бұрын
The Parrot4chan video boutta be extra spicy
@BlaZay
@BlaZay 11 ай бұрын
AIEEEEEEE
@Aikomwn
@Aikomwn 11 ай бұрын
Ikr LMAO
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
i'll prep my popcorn
@dragoonssrbguilty4719
@dragoonssrbguilty4719 11 ай бұрын
Is Selen ever decides to leave I hope Mumei can put out a good word for her.
@nerdbased24
@nerdbased24 11 ай бұрын
And don't forget about Ren Zotto, just like Selen they were friends IRL before they were vtubers, and there are rumors that since Ren left a comment on Mumei's Twitter, everyone complained, and Ren clarified that they are close acquaintances IRL, and it is said that there was an occasion that they were about to be a couple, and form a musical duo for their singing talent between Mumei and and by saying that in Pixiv they released a +18 fanart of Ren and Mumei Seriously, they were going to be a couple but Mumei decided against it and they never formed a musical duo.
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys 11 ай бұрын
@@nerdbased24 To be fair, Ren irl had a girlfriend, but it's not Mumei. I'm not telling you the rest because you can look those up on your own.
@akiodemon
@akiodemon 11 ай бұрын
@@NinaMarieNPianoKeys Come to think of it, I did watch his past life (Ren), I can't believe I couldn't notice before lol.
@SenseiRaisen
@SenseiRaisen 11 ай бұрын
People ASSUME it was Shu. I was in the believe between Selen, Mysta or Vox ... The fact it was Mysta wasn't a surprise as you said not only because he was very vocal about all the problems Niji has, but also he seems really done in some of the clips i snipe after the 2% stuff come out. Edit after the video: Also i agree about tribalism is not good. I only laugh at Niji imploding since Anycolor is doing almost nothing to look better, at all and expousing some of the true shit problems. HECK!!! you said firing Gundou was a good thing for Niji ... YET it expouse even more problems within the agency because they let Gundou does worse shit than Zaion was accuse to but they didn't care, but the moment a joke about Beisbol was made... BAM!!! out. And we won't forget Roa still in hiatus for more than 2 years at this point. I would also bring cases like the person behind Himemori Luna and her reasons to quit Niji or also the same for Chitose who was the reason why Aloe was attacked, because she spoke against Anycolor when she was still Delta at the time. AGAIN the company, not the talents, since most of them deserves better like Pomu or Selen ... also Nina by extension and we seen that already. HECK even Mysta i been thinking the same for a long time. Anything right now make Cover and Holo seem to be the much more viable option and a very VERY VERY good reason why they took a lot for time now to hire new people. If they go rough diamond route, then we know why. And you can also argue why when you also think in the resume most of them had before join (like Sana and Ina been prominent artists on their own merits, Calli as well but she is a skilled musician too ... and so on). I mean look at the focus they did between 2022 and now day. A year ago we had Sana leaving for her own reasons (since you cover that up once and said "why" in a very logical and reasonable way anyone could understand) and the Tempus boys join. YET! after that there wasn't any other than another batch for the Tempus boys at the begin of the year and now EN3, compared with the last year when we had ID3 , Uproar and Tempus. What Holo did that Niji didn't was to focus on what they had already + some new ones and not pump new people without the ways to handle it, who was the error Niji committed after debut Noctix believe or not. Plus make events focus around them like 2022 was a year for Holostars since a lot of events were around them. Now 2023 seems to focus more on international events instead and to make sure to NOW has a focus on both EN and ID over the 1st half of this year as i notice and even ID has half a dozen of events line up for August too. If anything, they seems to be capitalizing from yabs Anycolors are doing in the past 8 MONTHS (who coincide with how much Mysta's mind was already set for a long time to do this already). If anything, it became rare people try to quit Holo (*touch wood*), without a very specific reason like Sana or unless a true Yab happen with Rushia, mainly because they are more than comfortable with everything they put on now.
@NettoAzure
@NettoAzure 11 ай бұрын
Man you streaming this while the Minecraft stream was on made me miss the perfect chance to ask you what you meant on how Mysta was really insightful pre-debut. Just wanted for you to go a little more indepth 😆 Anyway, the moment still brings tears to my eyes, but I will just pray and give him well wishes on future endeavors.
@Firefly_night
@Firefly_night 11 ай бұрын
I'm not even into Vtubers , just seeing stuff here and there. And from outside perspective, those beautiful characters? There's real people behind them. REAL. HUMANS. And no, not everyone can keep up the show with glitz and glitters for so long. Mysta said something really true. That he go million subs it means he made this amount of people laugh and have fun. But when you slowly becomes bitter, and losing your spark? It better leave when everyone still keeps you as a beautiful memory. So please respect him, and show love to the boys 😔 cause they are the ones that will have to deal with the aftermath
@shinyyglaceon
@shinyyglaceon 11 ай бұрын
The day pomu graduates is the day im pretty much done with niji last member i actually care about
@zafraan3038
@zafraan3038 11 ай бұрын
I haven't been watching as much, so this is really heartbreaking...
@LokiThePug
@LokiThePug 11 ай бұрын
Being on the top or a sinking boat, hope the guy behind mysta can recover, no people deserve anything even near what NijiSanji does to their talents
@Rar830
@Rar830 11 ай бұрын
Nobody deserves what happened to Zaion, regardless of whether she had some fault it was still a terrible situation.
@LeafYin
@LeafYin 11 ай бұрын
4 down, 28 left. Wonder how many more till niji sanji realizes they have a problem with en management
@imgorilla3668
@imgorilla3668 11 ай бұрын
The thing about Mystas graduation is that it was his choise. He got burned out from it and thats something we have to respect. Its sad to see Mysta leave But he did it for his own well being. He Even said that he was burned out for 7-8 months and thats a long time. I started watching Nijisanji en during ethyria debut and when luxiem joined i was so exited to see male vtubers. Watching videos and News of Mystas graduation genuinely makes me cry. I really wish that he could stay But as one of his fans, respecting Mystas option is something that we all have to accsept. From My thought Nijisanji is getting corrupt. From Yugos graduation i didnt understand Why because i hasnt seen yugo do anything bad. Nina was the best fox mom of niji But she graduated because of her own well being. Now that its Mystas turn he left also because of health. Nijisanji doesnt take good care of Their workers ngl. Lets just play to everyone who has graduated and hope that They are doing amazing and the path They choose is a memorable one
@lilykroatschannel4827
@lilykroatschannel4827 4 ай бұрын
6 months later... a bunch of tragedies happened...
@trevorweisberg8470
@trevorweisberg8470 11 ай бұрын
Why do I get this disturbing feeling we're going to be seeing a lot more video followups to suddenly graduations....
@manulittle
@manulittle 11 ай бұрын
magni and vesper are next
@luvmarii_2
@luvmarii_2 11 ай бұрын
Because nijisanji is a trash company and their talents deserve better we are going to start seeing nothing but graduations in the long run
@luvmarii_2
@luvmarii_2 11 ай бұрын
And I hope there talents can get away from their trashy company too I wish them all nothing but luck and happiness cuz clearly nijisanji doesn’t know how to take care of their talents at all this is just sad at this point 🥹
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
always been since yugo... i want to see if my guess is right it could be selen but personally i want finana
@akiodemon
@akiodemon 11 ай бұрын
Most likely the ones who don't stream as much than they did in 2022
@matheusps92
@matheusps92 11 ай бұрын
Nijisanji EN right now is kinda like Disney: reached it's peak and now is trying realy hard to destroy everything they build.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
and im all for it
@MichaelKing015
@MichaelKing015 11 ай бұрын
Peak? When?
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
@@MichaelKing015 since luxiem.
@fajartirta4934
@fajartirta4934 11 ай бұрын
niji en manegement need to get it together, I hope the talent make Niji En resistance to whistle blow. Also i will not accept that ID branch dissolve for EN and they cant even manage it properly
@wojakthecrusader1410
@wojakthecrusader1410 6 ай бұрын
Honestly the ID branch are better to be dissolve to be ENG since alot of ID talent are somewhat fluent in english and some even japanese aswell.
@ncp9095
@ncp9095 11 ай бұрын
I don’t have right to shit talk about the management since I don’t know what’s behind but one thing I always wonder: What happened to AR live??? Wasn’t it supposed to postpone or something? It seems ditching the EN branch to hold live events to me and frankly, that’s not a good looking Niji.
@nna_
@nna_ 11 ай бұрын
This is just my personal rrat but it seem that they underestimated the amount of things neede to do for the event because everything seems like it was done in short notice, it doesn't help that pandemic is still happening so they decided to use that as an excuse when it's not the main reason for the cancellation.
@HudaefCares
@HudaefCares 11 ай бұрын
​@@nna_The day after the AR live got cancelled, Covid restrictions were loosened to a point where people that attended Suisei's concert were able to cheer loudly again for the first time since the pandemic started. The timing made Niji management's Corvid excuse look all the more ridiculous.
@zbigbozbboy5245
@zbigbozbboy5245 11 ай бұрын
@@HudaefCares the timing 😅. I wonder if it's karma though.
@eoisvt
@eoisvt 11 ай бұрын
On a separate note I'm so happy to see this in my recommended, I was so sad that Depressed Nousagi also graduated from content creation months ago!
@Paul-bs5wl
@Paul-bs5wl 11 ай бұрын
I too would bail after collecting my fujo money. That's a lot of stress for the long term
@LailaSyaadah
@LailaSyaadah 11 ай бұрын
yep. not surprised at all. i'm not even watch mysta that much but it already gave that vibe like he's tired, to me at least.
@brian_Austin27
@brian_Austin27 11 ай бұрын
I feel like petra or selen is next i saw petra minecraft stream where she litterly broke down crying and she goes to university and how hard for people to do others things, and selen has said multiple times about graduating and after the AR concert everyone felt it ablan, pomu, were the most vocal about it and was destroyed where u saw it and it broke me and started thinking it their mental health are ok, after hearing yugo and zion, then Nina left for the same reasons like poor management positions and how they deal with the talents mental health, and they leave it up to the talents to take care of each other u can see that holostars talk about how they rely on each other but barely mentions it but nijisanji en talks about helping each out all the time with anything even personal stuff to the point where i wondering where are their therapist and any form of mental health help for the talents nijisanji_en is so talented and u can see them all bit by bit drying and its sad to watch the hype isnt there plus all the graduations and they will be replaced buy newer talents, Ethyria always cracks jokes about being held hostage by nijisanji sonny made a joke about it and many others in en too, and now they are collaborating with other members especially with krisis because their the babies of the group where u didn't see this with illuna xsooli they got time to settle themselves together then slowly collab bow with krisis it feels like they are all pitching in for each other than the brand nijisanji and this better be a wake up call to nijisanji corp to help the talents takami-san better do something Nina was the obvious sign something officially wrong cuz if the mom the biggest extrovert is leaving due to some of the same issues and mysta wanted to leave way before her the wth
@gurugurumawaru7869
@gurugurumawaru7869 11 ай бұрын
Takumi just didn’t care. They guy literally said that he’s in this to win fast. He basically saw vtubing as get-rich-quick scheme and is willing to suck the life of the talents down to the bone marrow. That’s why the he tried but failed to pull off Yagoo’s stunt. If you didn’t take care of your employees, they’re not gonna love you.
@josueveguilla9069
@josueveguilla9069 11 ай бұрын
Gone. But not forgotten.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
give em time, id say 2 years or so
@SleepyRue
@SleepyRue 11 ай бұрын
When mysta was on break he popped into many of the niji streamers live and talked with especially vox about how he is feeling it sounded like even before all of this happen it seemed he already made plans to graduate i think he was been burnt out and done.
@yunnnnnnn.
@yunnnnnnn. 11 ай бұрын
Six hours ago when I was sleeping?!? Wtf bro I clicked into this video thinking it was a joke… never thought he would graduate, he had the most potential in my opinion..
@SaoJun
@SaoJun 11 ай бұрын
Bye, Mysta. Taking care of your own health is commendable, especially when personal finances are involved. Not everyone has that strength. I wish him the best in his future endeavors. NijiJP "was" hardly better than NijiEN. Just ask Sasaki Saku. Idk if there will be similar negotiations.
@joshuaperez1999
@joshuaperez1999 9 ай бұрын
He is doing very well now
@LtShadowKitsune
@LtShadowKitsune 11 ай бұрын
I got the impression that some of Mysta's issue goes deeper than Anycolor having garbage management. I mean, the management being bad really doesn't help, but it sounds like some of his issues are things that I'm not even sure good agencies could prevent. Dude sounds like he is done with vtubing and streamer and that is going to be a shame if true, given that he has talent. Hopefully, his next endeavor will be something that he find fulfilling and doesn't do a number on his emotional health. Going to disagree with the Gura and Vesper & Magni thing. I'm not sure there was a better way to handle things with Gura. Fans need to remember that if someone wanted their fans to know every detail of their lives, they wouldn't be doing something like vtubing. I see vtubing as a means to be in entertainment, while also having the option to throw up a god damn wall between you and the crazier parts of your fandom, while also walling at the worst parts of society. If it's a personal matter, the talents aren't obligated to share it with their fandom and fans need to go over themselves and realize they aren't entitled to knowing every detail about their favorite entertainers. Magni & Vesper thing is still up in the air. I'm giving Cover the benefit of a doubt and assuming it's a matter that the two want to keep private either permanently or temporarily. I might adjust depending on what details surface. I will say though that all the agencies need to come up with a better way of dropping announcements. I hate how the whole "Notice" fills people with dread and then that dread is either confirmed or dispelled by the contents of the message. Maybe use "announcement" or "FYI" if a talent is going on hiatus and leave notice to be the dreaded "someone is being suspended, fired or graduating" sign. Granted, that also means agencies need to not abuse it to hide that they are disciplining a talent.
@anthonybarber3220
@anthonybarber3220 11 ай бұрын
This probably will be a sign for other members. If the EN members lose someone like Vox or Ike leave next, then it will probably lead to more of the EN members to see the issues.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
finana
@trippyzero8612
@trippyzero8612 11 ай бұрын
Hololive: Confronted with deep sixing two of their talents to appease the nutjobs in the HUGE Chinese market and stay in China VS just fire two talents and continue making money in one of the most populated places on Earth, which also has a massively larger number of men to women (you know what I mean). Chooses to pull out of one of the largest markets in the world, tells the talents to keep their avatars. Nijisanji: Gimme dat KZbin Play-button! ITS MINE!
@Detah_
@Detah_ 11 ай бұрын
Thank god I’m not into niji bc it feels like everyone graduates every five minutes. I can’t handle that much frequent heartbreak
@CookieTheFemboy
@CookieTheFemboy 11 ай бұрын
I've only just recently started getting into niji but its still hitting hard
@zishinnie
@zishinnie 11 ай бұрын
its hell nowadays 😭before in like summer of 2022, niji was pulling w's left and right but now everybody's leaving or getting in a scandal.. sad to see
@johndave117
@johndave117 11 ай бұрын
nijisisters it's over
@Sailor_Mercury45
@Sailor_Mercury45 11 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct. It hurts like hell :(
@Rar830
@Rar830 11 ай бұрын
As a Holo fan since before jp5, I’m immensely grateful that I’m not a Niji fan. There was a time in which I stopped watching Holo because of Ethyria Luxiem and just binged their videos, I dodged a bullet.
@user-wo5kl1kx2s
@user-wo5kl1kx2s 11 ай бұрын
Now I feel like I would celebrate graduations at that point, but if it would kill their passions for content creations, that is a giant L for Niji.
@darknebulas1167
@darknebulas1167 11 ай бұрын
the great popularity of luxiem got the better of mysta. if luxiem would have had popularity like obsydia it probably could have endured the expectations. i hope niji will manage a bit like hololive on new gen
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
i dunno if holo's new gen is gonna blew up like crazy. id say maybe around 3k maybe but still better than nijisanji if im being honest
@lins_z2
@lins_z2 11 ай бұрын
Think about this: Voltaction from JP, who were promoted similar to Luxiem and debuted only months later, already had their second outfits long ago and already had their 3D debuts. Luxiem only had them 3 months ago, and we’ll never get Mysta 3D (chibi doesn’t count). Like yeah, Voltaction lives in Japan, but we all know that all of Luxiem would’ve traveled to Japan if they had to, considering how just months ago a great part of EN did travel to Japan and vacationed together. Heck, we haven’t even had 3D for OBSYDIA yet, and they already celebrated their 2nd year. I don’t think it is much to ask, but why is there so much difference between EN and JP. The only thing they (company) seem to care about is merch. I don’t think they would even let the talents commission their own stuff like outfits. Even comparing them to HoloTempus, Magni and Vesper had 2.0’s, while for Niji, they have to wait to literally win a 3.0 brush up lottery. I feel like this sort of neglect is one of the reasons that has led to burnout in Luxiem and many in NijiEN. The company is literally holding them back, restricting them already, while also pumping out merch like there’s no tomorrow and pushing the livers into a parasocial image that many of them have explicitly said they don’t like. I think this is one of the reasons Axia Krone graduated, and potentially Mayuzumi. The company they wanted to join is no longer the one that exist now. I… still love Nijisanji. But it makes me sad that the livers a love there deserve better and there’s no sign it’ll get better.
@ausgod538
@ausgod538 11 ай бұрын
3.0 is a lottery for everyone and en members already got a lot of it. It began being a thing to en this year. As for the rest, things didn't change, it always has been like this, Jp always has and Will be the priority due to it being Nijisanji itself and its extreme popularity
@Dreded100
@Dreded100 11 ай бұрын
"A Zaionist who just wants to watch NijiEN burn"... yea that pretty much sums it up. I feel bad for the talents still stuck there, but that company needs to go.
@50ULL355
@50ULL355 11 ай бұрын
It's gotten to the point where the first thing I thought of - after my initial surprise at the announcement - was "I wonder who's next?"
@Exarch_Of_Justice
@Exarch_Of_Justice 11 ай бұрын
Hololive was my first vtubing compagny I only learned later there was a bunch of others so im not super into the Niji drama.. that said awhile back I stumbled on Nara Haramaung and really loved her streams and personality im really sad to see her go she is so wholesome and nice. Im glad she is leaving for things to get better and im hoping she's happy wherever she ends up.
@KaiseiKusamon
@KaiseiKusamon 11 ай бұрын
Dawg Mysta literally outright said in one of his streams that he didn't care about streaming anymore but I'm not sure if he meant it as a joke or not
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
as a cope really,
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 11 ай бұрын
0:42 You know...now that you mention Metal Health there was that One Clip where apparently all of Luxiem had Serious Head Trauma in common with all of them. Really coincidental too.
@seaweedbanana4663
@seaweedbanana4663 11 ай бұрын
I will miss mysta and mika’s unhinged collabs
@izumolee6714
@izumolee6714 11 ай бұрын
The troubling news about all of this is that this might not be the end of it. So many of the EN NIji gang has voiced their opinions & frustrations about the EN side of Niji. We all know how Nina felt about how things were handled, Selen on numerous occasions has voiced her displeasure about the EN side, and now Mysta graduating saying the exact same things that so many have been saying. So i fear that we may see more EN Niji talent just straight up walking away from it all. There is a point that each of these talents just say enough is enough & that it's not worth it anymore. 2023 has been an absolute disaster for Niji with so many talents leaving. I don't know if it will happen but Niji as a whole really need to stop & re-evaluate their business model especially the brands not associated with JP. Something is definitely wrong & they just can't keep ignoring that nothing is wrong.
@apolloisnotashirt
@apolloisnotashirt 11 ай бұрын
I got Rushia PTSD when the notification came.
@KurtCobainPlsLuvMe
@KurtCobainPlsLuvMe 11 ай бұрын
I really hope all of Luxime leaves. I DON'T MEAN IT IN A BAD WAY! I just feel so bad... Niji En is going down they deserve better Luxime's mental health is going down i feel so bad i can only wish the best for my main oshis... Luxime. And Mysta.. Oh Mysta.. He was my main ohsi. And all i can do is wish him the best!
@humh123
@humh123 11 ай бұрын
Uuh…can you like not say that. Yes we know that niji en management is shitty and that there’s a lot of graduations recently but we don’t know how the boys themselves feel about it and what their mental state is. Imagine working your ass off and trying to stay mentally strong to keep doing what you love just for some fans who are way too invested in overblown twitter drama to plead you to leave. I’m not saying that’s their mindset but it very well could be and I’m sure all of them are having a hard time dealing with the graduations, you inserting your own assumptions and opinions without even being in the company on what they should or shouldn’t do is incredibly insensitive and entitled imo.
@Polymathically
@Polymathically 11 ай бұрын
I wish I was surprised, but I'm not. It's important to know when to walk away. He's going to be all right.
@chickenleg5359
@chickenleg5359 11 ай бұрын
As a niji fan the Zaion drama has really fucked with me mentally seeing the community absolutely hate on nijisanji constantly after that happened
@darkevilazn
@darkevilazn 11 ай бұрын
Non-stop L's from nijisanji, especially with all the whistle blowing about how they "operate". They painted themselves as just another black company, and that's what most fans see them as. We may still love and support the Niji talent, but we can also hate and despise the company itself. I wouldn't be surprised if NijiEn management was given a prerogative to actively harass talent into following orders.
@chickenleg5359
@chickenleg5359 11 ай бұрын
@@darkevilazn you're an L
@TheAdminSlayer
@TheAdminSlayer 11 ай бұрын
Don't be a fan of the company, be a fan of the talents
@genstqte
@genstqte 11 ай бұрын
@@chickenleg5359Niji talent is suppressed by management. He’s speaking facts. How is this man an L💀
@chickenleg5359
@chickenleg5359 11 ай бұрын
@@TheAdminSlayer i am a fan of the talents. to me my brain sees all this nijisanji hate as some doom signal that is going to force every single one of their talents to be graduated
@phyrexian_dude4645
@phyrexian_dude4645 11 ай бұрын
Niji needs to clean shop on the managers and remodel their business strategy because at this pace they are going to keep losing talents outside of JP, shut down another branch and, worst case scenario, potencial talents start to avoid them all together, the later would be a death sentence.
@roguegen5536
@roguegen5536 11 ай бұрын
Niji can't stop taking hits. That's 2 pretty big vtubers they've lost recently.
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
and im hoping finana is gonna be next but sadly that feesh will never die
@wuxian1
@wuxian1 11 ай бұрын
​@@akira8393is that a hate comment
@akira8393
@akira8393 11 ай бұрын
@@wuxian1 yeah
@randomaccount3364
@randomaccount3364 11 ай бұрын
​@@wuxian1 I'm new to this channel and I'm not a huge VTuber fan(and don't watch Finana) so I'm out of the loop, but reading this comment section my impression is that a lot of fans here hate Finana. I don't have any opinions on her and I think hating other people is stupid, but considering the type of people here versus the type of person Finana is, I can see why.
@wuxian1
@wuxian1 11 ай бұрын
@@randomaccount3364 you can see what exactly?
@JameyJoeshuaOfficial
@JameyJoeshuaOfficial 11 ай бұрын
3:10 try not to be offensive challenge: *IMPOSSIBLE*
@mojin7470
@mojin7470 11 ай бұрын
"Where did NijiEN go wrong?" When they joined Nijisanji as their VTuber Corpo they went wrong...
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