The More You Know Gaming: Epoch Cassette Vision! The #1 Game Machine In Japan Before Nintendo

[@GTV-Japan]

Have you ever played a Cassette Vision (or Jr. or Super)? I had a few Epoch LCD games but never knew the full history until now! What do you think? Comment away!!

[@thedillestweed2644]

Yeah, I own one. Trying to get all 12 games. You forgot about Grand Champion, despite being unreleased.

[@GTV-Japan]

The Dillest Weed you’re right that i did not mention it, i was just talking about the released games. I guess I should have put that in there! How many games are you up to? Thanks for watching

[@thedillestweed2644]

You're welcome, it's a good video. So far, I have games 1 through 11, with the obvious exception of Grand Champion. I also fabricated the Grand Champion cover art from reference of a couple magazines and the Cassette Vision Jr. Box. Maybe one day, a prototype cart will appear on an auction site.

[@pidgeo5]

@Gaijillionaire During your research for this episode, did you come across the names of the actors that were in the commercials for the Cassette Vision? They seem like they may have been a popular comedy group at the time this came out. Just curious. :)

[@GTV-Japan]

No I didn’t sorry. Didn’t think of it and it was kind of blurry and couldn’t make out the faces well.

[@slopesgameroom]

This was a fantastic video. I didn't know much about this

[@GTV-Japan]

Hey thanks for seeing it on the first day. Glad to fill you in!

[@Larry]

Do you know what the system was called when it was released in the West at all?

[@GTV-Japan]

The first Cassette Vision was Japan only but the Super was still called Super Cassette Vision but under different labels in different regions. France was the most marketed and it was called Yeno Super Cassette Vision. Though there could be unlicensed clones I don’t know of. Thanks for coming by on day one! Appreciate it!

[@SuperMarioMaster91]

This is why this channel is awesome. Almost every video I learn something new and it's always interesting to watch all the way through. (Heh I rhymed)

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks! That made my day! But can you believe all this cool stuff is never talked about? Why not?? Well if you liked this it’s part 2 of 5 in a row about 1983. First one was Atari 2800. Cant spoil it yet but when I get to Nintendo’s 1983 video you’re going to die from shock!

[@donniemcclain8685]

Wow!! I never knew about this! Thanks for teaching me! I'd never know so much without this channel!!

[@GTV-Japan]

The more you know!

[@AnOfficialAndrewFloyd]

Heck, Atari cartridges used to be called "tapes," because people didn't understand how ROM chips worked and they plugged in like 8-tracks... Which were tapes.

[@GTV-Japan]

And 8 tracks were called cartridges too. At the ones my mom had in our 1974 Mercury Thanks for watching

[@Wyrdwad]

I've been SORELY TEMPTED to import a Super Cassette Vision at some point, as it seems like one of the few retro consoles I could theoretically acquire a 100% collection for without breaking the bank. But I'm too busy spending all my money on MSX to bother with anything else at the moment. ;) Really cool to see CV and SCV covered on this show, though! Not enough people know about these consoles.

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks! The games are pretty good for the SCV and like I said it had RGB so they will look great on any monitor. Just go for it!!

[@MrSloaneRanger]

Great video!! Never fully grasped this system’s position and importance.

[@GTV-Japan]

It’s like Cassette Vision is Oswald and the Family Computer is Mickey Mouse! Thanks for watching

[@pauljohnson7548]

I had that Epoch tabletop space game when I was a kid. I never even heard of the Cassette Vision until recently. Great video!

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks! I had it too that’s why I put it in there!

[@pauljohnson7548]

I'm in the middle of binge-watching all your stuff. You're probably tired of hearing people say this, but your channel really is criminally under-subscribed. You are doing a great job of finding and presenting stories people can't find anywhere else.

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks ! Yea I hear it a lot but if I’m the 120 Minutes of KZbin so be it! I’d rather have a small group who loves it rather than a million casual fans. Comment away I’ll be at work reading them 🍺

[@grinbrothers]

A fascinating video! I had heard of Epoch and the Cassette Vision line but didn't know much more about it other than it existed (and that the first Dragon Ball game was made for it). I certainly did not know about their rivalry with Nintendo, their establishment of 'game cassette' as a term or their handheld systems. I've got to say, I love the distinctive graphic style it has. Bulky and vivid; you can almost immediately tell what system the game is being played on from the style of art (the Super Mario Bros fan port being a great example; vastly different to it's NES counterpart but still looking superb). Terrific video!

[@GTV-Japan]

Hey thanks I’m glad you liked it! Epoch is still around these days making toys and they make a fair number of Nintendo board games and RC cars too

[@rwiseart2269]

Honestly, I love the word “cassette” for game cartridges just as much as the NES to N64’s “game pak”

[@GTV-Japan]

Yea it’s cool but I saw a kid once call a Wii game a cassette! I couldn’t stop laughing

[@cyberyogicowindler2448]

In Germany we also used the word "Kassette" for Atari and similar game cartridges. Later "Modul" became more common when there is no tape inside.

[@GTV-Japan]

And you spell it with a K, that’s cool! I mean, kool!

[@georgehenson2412]

It's Epoch! EH-PAW-KUH It's interesting to think that Namco was very closely tied with Epoch. They were testing all the markets before throwing their weight behind Nintendo entirely. While the Japanese market is fairly one-brand focused, I think that Epoch could maybe have become a viable competitor if they had just a little more behind them. They were better than the SG-1000 but seemed to be less successful for no easily found reason.

[@GTV-Japan]

I don’t know why Namco never made a TV game. They have so many games that are still remembered today. But it’s all very interesting studying the free for all that it was until Nintendo became a de facto monopoly. This video is part 2 of 5 about that. Atari was part 1. And Sega will be next! But Namco did have its games on as many machines as possible. Perhaps going to Nintendo helped tilt things their way

[@georgehenson2412]

Namco did, for a time, look into creating their own console around the time the Mega Drive was coming out. By that time it wasn't a crazy idea because the PC Engine had a decent amount of success in the late Famicom marketplace. Taito did as well and of course SNK actually went through with it with the Neo Geo. It was a brief flash of inspiration, but ultimately the arcade companies decided to redouble their efforts on existing platforms instead.

[@GTV-Japan]

I see eh pawk ku and think イーパク but it’s エポック anyway its for English speakers so as long as they hear clearly it’s fine

[@BalsticMaker12]

Will there be any video to elaborate more about the fate of Epoch?

[@GTV-Japan]

I’m sure I’ll revisit them. Just as a quick note I saw they made recent Nintendo toys.

[@flink1231]

Great video, I knew nothing about these machines, thanks!

[@GTV-Japan]

Hey no problem! The super CV games are actually pretty fun

[@snesfan8935]

Oh yes, Super Cassette Vision. For me this is the first "game console" that had RGB out of the box, which is super nice. I am thinking of buying one some day.

[@GTV-Japan]

Good choice! I hope you find a nice set.

[@mikelhch8909]

amazing, regards from Basque Country

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks! People are asking for more Epoch vids so I might make another one in a few months. 🍻

[@thanosgaming3547]

Really informative!

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks! I only do topics I know 100% inside and out a d fully lived in the time they happened even if it’s not so popular. Have a great day

[@MaidenHell1977]

I love that all my SFC games say Cassette. Very cool video as usual!! :)

[@GTV-Japan]

Yep! And of course we used to say tape!

[@ropersonline]

5:28: That's one incredibly Eighties looking jumper.

[@GTV-Japan]

The Eightiest!

[@johneygd]

Epoh was really ahead of it’s time😁

[@GTV-Japan]

They are the reverse Simpsons did it.

[@Sinn0100]

Wait a minute...you just blew my freaking mind! That video dropped so many things I didn't know...wow!!!

[@GTV-Japan]

Haha good! This was my plan all along. To make tons of videos like this that drop the knowledge and the. The viewer just goes crazy and wonders why it’s so off the radar. Of course I hoped a million people did it at the exact same time but hey...

[@Sinn0100]

@@GTV-Japan I really wish this damn Coronavirus nonsense wasn't happening right now. I mean, for obvious reasons but for the sake of this post, I'm referring to work. Unfortunately, I'm working at home and so is my fiancee. Yes, we are very fortunate to have steady income but... I moonlight in academia and my fiancee works full time at the same college I do (I frequent several). I also work in the field of criminal psychology (that's not very helpful). I did not discover your channel until everything went sideways. When I get back to normalcy (I hope real soon), I'm sharing your channel with everyone I know. I know a metric ton of college students that all love gaming. I'm not promising that I can get your numbers up but I'm damn sure going to try. I would like nothing more than to get your views into the stratosphere. There's not much that get's me too turn my head when it comes to retro gaming. I live, eat, and, breath gaming. I know so much about the subject that I have even attempted to break into the journalism side of gaming too no avail. You my friend, have absolutely blown my mind on several occasions. Your knowledge is so beyond what I know it's truly astounding. I tip my hat to you sir and thank you for teaching so much I did not know.

[@GTV-Japan]

Sinn0100 thanks! I work at a university too but here in japan. Tried a few times to get into a us uni but no luck. No PhD. Actually in Japan a masters is preferred. Anyway part of the creative process is to check the other videos that are big hits already on KZbin and if it’s been done, don’t do it again. So if something isn’t “known” on youtube then I go for it and deliver best I can.

[@Sinn0100]

@@GTV-Japan I don't have a PHD either my friend, I didn't see the point honestly. You don't really see a big return after your masters but those loans increase exponentially. Further, most colleges here now only hire adjunct. At any rate, your coverage is literally second to none. I have to believe that more people will come. Your work speaks for itself and rises to the top. Further, you make it look easy and I know that it's not. The research alone is truly great. For God's sake man you have been able to find Japanese commercials to follow up on things so obscure I can't imagine what you have had to do too get them.

[@GTV-Japan]

Well of course I fact check to confirm things but a lot of it comes from living in japan so long and seeing things noticing them and remembering them. Only a few videos were “researched” in the sense that I knew zero about the topic and decided to make a video about it. The goal has always been to make a channel that I’d enjoy watching and as long as I aim for that this is what it’ll be like! 🍺

[@Alex40DCZ]

Hey GTV I’m going to live stream every night so you better be there

[@GTV-Japan]

Let me know! If I’m not working or sleeping I’ll drop in

[@juancabeza5809]

1UP YOURS NINTENDO!!!... Thanks for the video... I always thought Nintendo was the greatest innovators from Japan. I can see now that's debatable!

[@GTV-Japan]

There’s really nothing they invented themselves, except for the d pad. Everything else was based of something else. Thanks for watching as always!!

[@moralesjourneyman]

Juan Cabeza It's sad, but, "History is written by the victors." -- Winston Churchill

[@CushionSapp]

Nothing really to say, but I enjoyed this video. Thanks for making and sharing it.

[@intel386DX]

wow very smooth scrolling for MARIO :) BTW how is possible to make those diagonals and shapes , and at the same time the pixels are so huge in the first console version 2:24 are they like ASCII characters ? Also It's look like that the screen on the portable system is much better then Game Boy's one, but do not have shades , or at least this game on the screen have not

[@GTV-Japan]

I’m not familiar with the machines tricks but many of the mid 80s machines had sprite power because they wanted to faithfully recreate one screen arcade games. Like the 7800. Of course Mario changed all that’ll

[@JoypadDivison]

Wow, wish the Famicom had RGB so you didn't have to mod the thing (I'm in Europe, no TV I know of handles NTSC through the RF). Also had no idea they still called them cassettes in Japan, was aware of the Cassette Vision and Famicom carts mimicking a cassette on the top of the cartridge + same size so it fits nicely in anything designed to hold music cassettes. We used to call them cassettes here in Sweden as well, or rather "spelkassetter" (game cassettes), we still call it "TV-spel" (TV Game), which I think the Japanese never say anymore, unless I'm misstaken. This is an awesome channel, so happy I found it, in every video there is a ton of info I never knew before.

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks for sharing that info! I like hearing things like that. It is a shame the fc has no rgb but I never knew anyone who had a monitor like that so I can understand not including it. Thanks for supporting the channel! 🍺

[@RabbitEarsCh]

I'm amazed they were able to get away with a lineup of unlicensed clone games for their console that sold over 300,000 units. To this day, the Yosaku cassette, developed unlicensed for Cassette Vision, is much easier to find than the original arcade machine from SNK! There is maybe one Yosaku machine known in all of Japan right now, which is pretty amazing all things considered.

[@GTV-Japan]

Where is the Yosaku arcade machine? People are trying to find that one and preserve the code

[@RabbitEarsCh]

@@GTV-Japan nobody knows! But this person on YT has had a video of a real machine's feed for years and every attempt to contact has failed. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKG1ZX1trrljhpY

[@Seafoamgaming]

Oh hey, wasn't this the system that had Yosaku from SNK on it as an unofficial port, but now it's the only version of the game that isn't lost? Or was that another similar system? It's the tree game right

[@GTV-Japan]

Yaeah that’s the game but I didn’t know all that!

[@pv8685]

damn - now i want the pink girl cassette vision.

[@GTV-Japan]

Not so expensive and they output in rgb!!

[@tomsuzyinfluencerinfj2712]

Didn't Nintendo import the original Magnavox Odyssey (1972) in the mid 70s? If not, evenso the Odyssey was available in Japan

[@GTV-Japan]

Yes. They did. It’s been cited as 1974. I’ve never seen one and if it’s like the Epoch Atari or Bandai INTV then there would just be a sticker or barely visible marking to tell us it was from Nintendo.

[@setadriftonfishandchips]

So basically you're saying that the console itself is a controller and a means to output the signal to TV. It's wild that the ram would be stored on the cartridge.

[@GTV-Japan]

Yeah. It’s kind of like Odyssey in that way. Maybe because it was easier and cheaper to do it that way then. A lot of NES games had extra chips as well to get them to do tricks the hardware can’t do. It’s a lost art these days. Thanks for watching!

[@setadriftonfishandchips]

Gaijillionaire yeah I'd imagine that chips (especially good chips) were still prohibitively expensive at the time. Awesome channel btw, just subscribed. Gonna watch the Atari video shortly. Cheers!

[@GTV-Japan]

Oh thanks! The Atari video is part one of a set all about 1983. This one is part 2 and I’ll bring doing one on Sega in 2 weeks and then Nintendo and how their releases went

[@setadriftonfishandchips]

Gaijillionaire deadly gear! I look forward to it!

[@jeppy4021]

Kasetto vishon de kasetto pon!

[@GTV-Japan]

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[@GoombaKiller171]

Ah yes, the Cassette Vision. I actually knew about the existence of this console *long* before this video was uploaded. How, you may ask? Well, in the early 2010's there was a user that used to upload a series of videos about games that were never released in America, and this system was featured in one episode. Also, that Dragon Ball title for the Super Cassette Vision has the honor of being the very first Dragon Ball videogame ever made!

[@GTV-Japan]

Yeah a good point to remember! Thanks for watching

[@fidgetslugsumo]

I've never even heard of this. You grow up hearing Nintendo did it all first and you dont question it bc they were and are king of the console who single handedly pulled the home console out of the gutter and saved it. Needless to say I'm shocked Epoch beat Nintendo to the finish line everytime lol Impressive!

[@GTV-Japan]

Yea! But now they make toys and figures for Nintendo and others as well. Don’t believe the story that Nintendo saved the industry. A lot of that is PR spin and myth. I’ll get to that topic someday too. Thanks for watching

[@fidgetslugsumo]

@@GTV-Japan your videos are always very informative. Learning the history of games, systems, their creators, the rivalries as well as other retro things from my childhood is of a particular interest to me. Needless to say I'm a huge fan of your channel. I was just now watching your history of Kid Icarus and Phantasy Star videos lol

[@GTV-Japan]

Hey thanks! I’m so happy to hear that! No one knows but I do so much of the video making at 4 am before work and do the editing on the train everyday because I have no other free time. So it’s good to know it makes a lot of people happy and the time wasn’t for nothing. 🍻 thank you

[@fidgetslugsumo]

@@GTV-Japan really? Wow...that's dedication right there! Your work is definitely appreciated. Keep making them, I love it!

[@GTV-Japan]

Yea. It’s the only way I can do them ! But now I’m in a rhythm so I can keep going forever

[@SevenDeMagnus]

So cool. It's nice, they also have the soft fiberous Sylavanian Families figures.

[@GTV-Japan]

That’s very true!! Doraemon toys too and even some Nintendo stuff now

[@rclark777]

For anyone who was confused at 0:50, “antediluvian” is a term used by Bible scholars referring to the time-period between the fall of Adam & Eve to Noah’s Ark.

[@GTV-Japan]

That’s true. Used here as a metaphor for the world that existed before the Family Computer in japan and NES in America

[@MaryTownsendRyokansDomain]

I guess the Magnavox Odyssey isn't the first game console I beginning to only know now, Thank you for sharing this one

[@GTV-Japan]

You got it!!

[@fedup7496]

Oh man, thanks to all the famiclones and the asian console influence, in Latin America many people called, and still call cartridges "cassettes". Despite the constant education from the popular magazine "club Nintendo". Now, THEY always called it "cartridges"!.

[@GTV-Japan]

Ya it’s even worse in the US with people calling them TAPES! No tape inside!! At least Cassette meaning a small case is more accurate

[@fedup7496]

I think I've seen that once or twice, tapes! wah?

[@GTV-Japan]

That comes from the 70s when cassette tapes and 8 tracks were a competing format. Many times 8 tracks were called cartridges, sometimes tapes. There was tape inside after all but it was programmable like a cd. Anyway Atari games came out at the height of 8tracks and they looked very much the same so the same people who called 8 tracks “tapes” carried it over to Atari and it just stuck around.

[@ThexthSurvivor]

Nice video. Can you link to the community where the homebrew you mentioned for the SCV? I'd like to try out some of the Nes games on it. Thanks.

[@ChrisHilgenberg]

I think the barcode battler item displayed is similar to the device used in that one segment of Game Center CX.

[@GTV-Japan]

Which one? Oh yeah that one!! Yeah it kind of does!

[@soldatblague]

There was a piece of hardware before that that should get the credit as the first popular mainstream console : *-Cassette Vision-* => COLOR TV-GAME by Nintendo

[@GTV-Japan]

That is true it came before CV.

[@MikaylaSchultz]

Now you're talking pong systems, and in fact Epoch wins again, being the first with the release of their TV Tennis Electrotennis - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Tennis_Electrotennis

[@GTV-Japan]

Mikayla Schultz 🏆!!

[@bricethompson1922]

Is the super cassette vision backwards compatible with original cassette vision games?

[@GTV-Japan]

No. The first machine actually doesn’t have much working inside and everything is kept on the cartridge. So each game is actually very different and won’t work. Thanks for watching

[@bricethompson1922]

@@GTV-Japan bummer

[@GTV-Japan]

Yeah but there were only 11 games and they’re actually easy to find because it was popular then with low demand now

[@HiNRGboy]

The original Cassette Vision wasn't much of anything. Now the Super Cassette Vision was great! That's the one you want for some cool exclusive games that weren't found on anything else.

[@JolliAllGenGamer]

I just got a super cassettevision for cheap less than 20.00 usd it’s in rough shape cosmetically, but it works. Do you know how it works with rgb?

[@GTV-Japan]

Yes!! I have heard it is rgb compatible. But sorry I dont know much else as I’ve never actually owned one

[@DW3010]

What game is that music from? I know I’ve heard it before. Is it The Magic of Scheherazade?

[@GTV-Japan]

Actually this is from KZbin audio library. If it’s based on a game, I didn’t know that. It’s possible though!

[@skins4thewin]

Lol now I really want a Super Cassette Vision & a flash cart to go along with it! Will have to check to see how expensive they are to import.

[@GTV-Japan]

Here’s a tip. The few SCV that weee sold in France have rgb outs

[@skins4thewin]

@@GTV-Japan Ah, good to know. If they were so few over there though I bet those are even tougher to acquire than the Japanese ones which also have RGB it sounds like.

[@GTV-Japan]

@skins4thewin I’m not sure. Just heard French ones are the better ones.

[@skins4thewin]

@@GTV-Japan Ah I gotcha. Its something I would do a lot more digging into before I buy anyways, but I appreciate the tip! I'll keep it in mind.

[@leroyvisiongames2294]

“Galaxian” “Pac-Pac Monster” “Astro Command” “Elevator Panic”? God, there not even trying with those titles. They may as well have made a game called “fuck you copyright laws: the game”.

[@GTV-Japan]

the filter caught this one!

[@TheWorldDBZ]

細かいことを指摘させて頂くと、最後の提供のナレーションは「お送りしました」の方がいいですね。

[@GTV-Japan]

そうなんだ、 ありがとうね！さ、「した」の方がしたいだけど、きれいなの声、音がない、音楽がないの 「した」は見つからなかった。TT

[@sa3270]

You talk like Nintendo wasn't on the scene until 1983. Why no mention of the Nintendo TV Game 6, which was released before the Atari 2600 and well before the Epoch Cassette Vision?

[@GTV-Japan]

Its true I didn't in this video. But this is one of a 4 part series where I gave Epoch, Sega, Atari and Nintendo a video about their hardware launch in 1983. In the Nintendo video I did mention all of those things

[@Nestalgba92023]

Umm…Epoch did released TV Tennis domestically, in 1975.

[@BENULTIMAN2000]

Has Epoch developed any games for Nintendo Switch ???

[@GTV-Japan]

I don’t know. I think they don’t produce any software now and just make toys

[@BENULTIMAN2000]

Gaijillionaire Oh

[@Marc_Araujo]

The Japanese Intellivision/Colecovision?

[@GTV-Japan]

Kinda sorta yeah

[@SevenDeMagnus]

New subscriber here.

[@GTV-Japan]

Thanks! Check out all 83 videos if you have time

[@FerintoshFarmsPhotography]

You know you want the pink one

[@GTV-Japan]

The F series!

[@BENULTIMAN2000]

Are any of the Super Cassette Vision Games easy to buy since it was a Japan Exclusive ????

[@GTV-Japan]

The super cassette vision was sold in France and half of those games were available there. A quick look online shows the hardware can be had for about $100 and games range from 5-50 mostly. So if that’s not a lot of money to you then yea it’s pretty easy

[@johneygd]

Respect to epoh for not only importing the atari 2600 to japan and releasing the cassette vision and super cassette vision,but also the game pocket computer, Not only did the cassete vision cought interest by nintendo but i bet that nintendo also took inspiration from the game pocket computer to create the gameboy because it does have alot of resamblence to it, BTW the magnovox offysey was released in japan before the cassette vision and being distributed that’s right by nintendo😁🙏

[@GTV-Japan]

True. I have always had the idea for a video of pre-FC era imported games in Japan. Because there are a lot. The only issue is there’s nothing visual about them so what is there to show on screen? The channel F sold in japan for 128,000¥ in 1977! Holy cow!

[@Sinn0100]

Whoa...you just dropped some pretty heavy truth bombs on me. That's great!

[@GTV-Japan]

All right!

[@superpcengine]

Can you emulate the original cassette vision

[@GTV-Japan]

Yes. It’s possible on MESS but I’m not an expert on emulation. It might be available in launch box or browsers too. The Super CV emulator doesn’t play these 11 games I don’t think. But that one has a few sites dedicated to its emulation

[@holotape]

ビデオではそのミュージックは何ですか

[@GTV-Japan]

ええ？なぜ日本語喋っているあなた？名前が忘れてけどKZbinの音楽で取った。

[@holotape]

Gaijillionaire 日本語を練習したかった！Anyway, thanks :)

[@GTV-Japan]

ああそうなのいい学生でしょう〜！いつでも日本語で喋ってください

[@leroyvisiongames2294]

>Thats back when “1-UP” meant something else... So, what you’re trying to say is that they were constantly trying to “first player score” each other?.......lol.

[@GTV-Japan]

Yep! You got me there friend!

[@daisukegori2112]

I got a steam deck and all I play on it is old emulated games. Don't worry I the old consoles at home already as well as the japanese Dreamcast. But now I can play Rent a hero number 1 in english. Gonna buy a sega saturn next...because Segata will come to my house and judo flip me if I don't. Actually I study martial arts so I would find it awesome to learn from a master.

[@GTV-Japan]

That’s true! He’s very serious! I use open emu. And I dont own a single game anymore! Of course it wasn’t my fault. The earthquake took everything

[@ckfu8287]

リアルタイムで現物を一度も見たこと無い

[@JMFSpike]

It seems to me like the SCV could have been a big success if the hardware had been a little more powerful and the controller more modernized like the Famicom's. Kind of depressing to learn that a company that was ahead of the competition in some very important ways ultimately failed due to not quite going far enough.

[@GTV-Japan]

It did not "fail" the company is still around actually!

[@JMFSpike]

@@GTV-Japan I meant that they ultimately failed as a game console manufacturer.

[@GTV-Japan]

That seems to be how a lot of channels frame things but I don’t see things that way the games made people happy and the company contributed to the economy, even it it wasn’t as much as Nintendo so for those people at that time, they probably weren’t thinking this thing is bad.

[@JMFSpike]

@@GTV-Japan They could not compete with Nintendo or Sega so they got out of the console market. They failed. It's a fact and it's not subjective.

[@GTV-Japan]

I don’t frame things in that perspective but it’s true they no longer manufacture TV game hardware in that sense.

[@disposablebasterd]

I don’t think I ever called them a game pack, they were cartridges.

[@GTV-Japan]

In the nes days that’s what Nintendo called them. I always thought it was a way to control copyright but lots of people seem to think they did it to show the nes wasn’t a game machine like Atari was. It’s an “entertainment system” so if that’s the case why say GAME pak? Thanks for watching

[@Comrieion]

So Nintendo stoles Epoch's ideas

[@GTV-Japan]

Well. I would not say stole but. Yes.

[@afrolund80]

How is that background track not on a Tetris game? Now I wanna play tetris! Guess it's back to that Russian song.

[@GTV-Japan]

Just generic gamey sounding stuff

[@pferreira1983]

Looks like an interesting console. Too bad Epoch didn't have the resources or audience attention to properly compete with Nintendo.

[@GTV-Japan]

They hung in for a while. I found some games made by them in the 21st C and I’ll be bringing it next year

[@pferreira1983]

@@GTV-Japan Cool!

[@Jagerbomber]

Is he not pronouncing "Epoch" wrong?

[@GTV-Japan]

He is not.

[@kekeke8988]

Why did they bother to produce this inferior hardware when they had already published the Atari? Even the 2600 had way better games than this from the looks of it.

[@GTV-Japan]

The deal they had with Atari was only in 1977. It was not successful but from that they made their own games and maybe it was sub par but was popular and for most consumers at the time it was the best possible

[@coley2340]

God, that annoying background music!

[@GTV-Japan]

rock on!

[@Retroman8077]

So yokoi copied off the epochs legacy with his Gameboy. Saw a bored guy on the shinkansen playing eith his calculator my foot

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I suppose that legend led to game and watch but epoch was still there first