THE MOST ANNOYING VILLAIN IN ANIME (Back & Forth)

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[@philzh7973]

“YOU DON’T HAVE TO YELL! I CAN HEAR YOU, ITADORI YUJI!!!!” Mahito is reaching Naraku levels of hate, the dude is just such a magnificent bastard that he lights up every scene he’s in

[@battousaix4263]

Nah him mimicking Itadori like that after what he jus did 😭 that mf an absolute menace

[@jovemister]

They said jjk ain’t as deep as the others which is true. But they really been tapping into the emotion , these new episodes fireee

[@yitlerxyeezus]

​@@jovemisterjjk has depth. it's just not as on the nose so the pseudo intellectuals don't see it. radman's video about gojo vs sukuna is a good example

[@fightingdreamer8681]

@@yitlerxyeezus this combined with the parallel character progression/evolution between Gojo and Geto (episode 1-5 of Season 2): how they started, changed over time and the characters they have currently become. Philosophical essays could be produced and written just from those two alone imo.

[@xavyy555]

walking spliff

[@1700coolguy]

Mahito is the exact equivalent to Kid Buu. Child like behavior, ridiculous powers and just evil. 😂😂

[@toastoftardiness]

Buu isn’t technically evil. He’s a force of nature.

[@eltniumgg974]

Buu would’ve ended the show already 😭😭

[@ryxga6392]

@@eltniumgg974 He is not talking about his strength lil bro, go outside

[@SerpentineWisdom]

​@@ryxga6392relax.

[@andromeda3028]

Nah, Mahito had the capability to think. Kid Buu was just “Life should die “

[@mr_0n10n5]

The real hate in JJK is cause Gege stay be killing somebody's favourite character. Gege looking at that Popularity list like a hit list. He even merced his own favourite character like it was nothing 😭

[@samwilson4597]

gave him the worst death

[@emmanuelobodozie713]

gojo is his least fav character

[@MandatoryFruit]

​@@emmanuelobodozie713He's talking about Nanami

[@ddl3718]

@@emmanuelobodozie713…

[@RayTheomo]

Gege is literally the biggest villain in jjk. He hates his own characters. And loves to spite his audience. That meme of gege over death note is so accurate😭

[@KingKuraii]

tbh curses like mahito are the jujutsu sorcerer of curses mahito would kill a human the same way sorcerers would exorcize a curse

[@pumasic1987]

but mahito is laughing and enjoying the pain of the humans, you hardly see stuff like that from even the meanest sorcerers...

[@flockaveli15]

Exactly I think they forgot he’s literally a baby. So just like a kid he’s careless and he doesn’t see right or wrong he just does what he wants I don’t think he’s meant to be super deep as a character.

[@mrphoenix4069]

@@pumasic1987 What about Gojo laughing and smiling while killing Hanami? Its not like every curse acts like Mahito, the same way not every sorcerer acts like Gojo

[@flockaveli15]

⁠@@pumasic1987sorcerers may not all be laughing but neither are all the curses. They simply don’t care mahito is laughing because that’s literally his character and demeanor but sorcerers also kill curses with no thought to it.

[@IAMvonte-2518]

@@flockaveli15That was well said. Jogo was about business and had set goals. He wasn’t like Mahito. Likewise Suguru was about business and had set goals. He wasn’t like Gojo who enjoyed flexing on curses.

[@tommymatt5]

Idk whoever said “how is Itadori a dog and don’t win the fights?” Nigga… Yuuji anime wise just started being a sorcerer. And I mean he’s probably still 4 months in timeline wise. Literally EVERYONE else knows their ability and how to effeciently use it. Itadori is still pushing those niggas to their limits. That’s how he’s a dog.

[@reeeeeeee-e2g]

So he's ichigo? Bro is boxing captains 2 weeks into the game 😂

[@IAMvonte-2518]

@@reeeeeeee-e2gIf he wasn’t special, we wouldn’t be following his story.

[@Unknown-tl7xk]

@@reeeeeeee-e2gwhat Ichigo got to do with anything? Plus the difference between Ichigo and Yuji is that Ichigo was born with godlike genetics. Yuji wasn’t.

[@Posi3donGam3s]

@@Unknown-tl7xkYuji is literally like superhuman compared to regular people

[@Unknown-tl7xk]

@@Posi3donGam3s sure but even that only takes him so far compared to Ichigo. And its not like he’s the only superhuman in his verse either.

[@xSkadush]

Love these live B&F's. Could listen for hours tbh

[@hennylouwop]

Gojo whooped Jogo ass so bad that I thought he was trash 😂😂😂

[@ghoulking1435]

In jujutsu kaisen curses are more of a natural disaster. Mahito actions are evil but that’s just him he was born out of human hatred. So he doesn’t view himself as evil

[@Carihimself]

I agree with this. He wouldn’t think of it as evil because its his nature as a curse .

[@crowofjudgement4718]

Mahito, Jogo, Dagon and Hanami(?) are all disaster curses. Things that humans fear. Jogo: fire hence him being the shape of a volcano Dagon: Sea, specifically the deep sea Hanami: the forest Mahito: Humans

[@roderickhebert845]

I can’t say who else is up there with Yuta without spoiling the boys 😢

[@evileyejozi]

@@Gaaang-iq9momr. can’t end on a loss

[@Official_NOM_]

A girl with glasses and a man who gambles 😂

[@roderickhebert845]

Low key my favorite character!!

[@MonkeyDJaden75]

Hakari is my favorite character since he got introduced

[@Wildheaven93]

@@Official_NOM_ Throw the Lawyer in that mix lowkey. He was ready to fight you know who, right off the craziest showing we've seen in the series, while being newer to this Jujutsu shit than Yuji.

[@idsdsdicsddjsicjk3932]

Naruto vs pain fight slander was crazy, especially after talking about how people complained about jjk's animation style lol. also how are cursed spirits not evil? 🤣😂 appreciate the convo

[@brodiethegoaty849]

A cursed spirit can be banished in sorrows, regret, and other things that are inherently evil.

[@flockaveli15]

@@brodiethegoaty849right I think people forget the curses are a mix of negative emotions that manifest itself. I feel like that’s why they showed geto who can control and absorb curses having a problem seeing much difference between curses and humans

[@SirStrugglesAlot]

Cursed spirits are a manifestation of humans' negative energy, so if cursed spirits are evil then everybody and their mother that you see in the show are evil

[@TRJ42]

No, I’m not gonna lie when I watch it as a kid I didn’t like it either cause they look too Looney Tunes and goofy in one of the frames pain looks like a donkey

[@leylaali1982]

@@TRJ42I like it even though I can agree at some very small points it is goofy. I like the uniqueness it adds instead of being a basic fight they swtitched the animation style

[@programme9363]

The best thing about this Back and Forth is it wasn't planned. They streamed for like 6 hours before this. This shows they need more back and forth

[@raaraa5058]

The thing is JJK really is that deep IF YOU WANT IT TO BE. A lot of themes and messaging just aren’t thrown in your face but it is there if you want to dive deep into those things. And if you don’t want to do that and focus strictly on the boxing, you can damn sure do that too. That’s why I love this series. Niggas that try and down play it instead of just saying “I don’t enjoy it” are deadass just hating.

[@Step43099]

Makes more sense when you notice how much Gege looks at Bleach for inspiration

[@jadenrobinson1561]

Further Explain

[@ianharrison5758]

⁠@@jadenrobinson1561JJK can be enjoyed as essentially just fire fights with a fast paced plot, or you can read into the subtext Gege gives us that underlines the themes, characterization and narrative of the story. One of the ideas spoken on in JJK is moral relativism. Is Mahito truly at fault for being what he is, especially considering how curses are made to begin with? Is Yuji a hero for recklessly eating a very dangerous cursed object that led to thousands of deaths bc of his will, intent and response or is he simply a person dealing with the consequences of his actions? Are sorcerers truly any better than curses when the higher ups send young teens to die from the comfort of an unspecified location, making decisions that cost lives they never see as more than tools to exploit? Another idea touched on is what does it mean to be the strongest, how does one achieve that status. How do you reach through the loneliness of absolute strength, and should you even choose to do so? Is it better to be selfish and care about nothing more than your own life and power? Or is it better to build up strong Ally’s to make changes 1 person never can, even the strongest person alive? Another idea touched on you can read into is Selfishness vs Selflessness. Not just between curses and sorcerers, but in sorcerer society itself. Being selfless led Nanami to a gruesome death, a kind man who sought to preserve the innocence of the children fighting beside him, and being selfish let Mei Mei escape shibuya and profit off of the coming chaos from the comfort of the very place nanami wanted to spend vacation at. I could go on but you get the idea, there’s a lot you can consider “that deep” if you wanna look into it

[@FirmlyGrasp_IT]

@@jadenrobinson1561 To add to what the other guy said. Death is a huge theme in JJK. JJK is about coming to terms with yourself and valuing yourself. Yuji's grandpa taught Yuji to respect others so that he can die surrounded by others on his deathbed. It is constantly said that no sorcerer dies without regrets in the series and that is because no sorcerer is able to take hold of their inner desires and accept themselves. The more you go through JJK the more you notice a fascinating trend. That trend is that the "selfish" people, which are often the villains, are constantly rewarded by the story. If you have a strong sense of self and understanding of what it is that makes you you, the world of JJK will reward you time and time again. You can do heinous shit like Sukuna, but if you have a strong sense of self, the narrative aligns with your ideals. On the flip side, the selfless are constantly punished over and over again. If you notice, the "good side" has almost never caught a real W and that maintains all the way through to where we are in the manga, barring one character. Perhaps the most interesting thing about JJK to me is that it is a postmodernist story, which means it has a ton and I mean a ton of meta themes all throughout the story. What Gege Akutami has managed to do with JJK is essentially blur the lines between fiction and reality. This may seem crazy and bullshit to some, but it absolutely holds validity within JJK. A postmodernist story is one that basically throws out the idea of fact or objective truth. The world of JJK seems simple, it's just japan and curses and sorcerers inhabit it right? Well the more you think about it and get to the root of what these characters represent, the more you realize that the world of JJK seems off, almost like it doesn't feel like a story, it almost feels real in a way, like you can't really imagine a human making something like this. Sukuna is the biggest example as to why JJK is a postmodernist story. Essentially, Gege has written Sukuna in a way that his character is completely immune to the readers perception or interpretation of him. When experiencing a story how you perceive a character is what that character becomes. Pretty much, the reader's mind defines the story and its world. Well, Sukuna is not under the control of the reader in this same way with how he's written. Your perception of Sukuna cannot define him in any way. Sure, you can have your thoughts about him, but it doesn't change who he is, similar to real person. Sukuna has an agency over himself and the world of JJK that I've never seen before and it goes beyond simply being strong. In a weird way Sukuna is above the story itself, the story bends the knee to Sukuna and serves him and does whatever Sukuna wants. The narrator herself doesn't even fully understand Sukuna. Sukuna is even above you, as the reader/watcher. Which is actually really weird, but also fascinating to think about. A really interesting idea that I've seen people discuss is that Sukuna isn't a fictional character made by Gege Akutami, moreso the Sukuna we see in JJK is the mythological legend "Ryomen Sukuna". This legend was grabbed and dropped within the pages of JJK and now that legend has free will to do whatever he wants with the characters and world Gege created. A video by Radman fully delves into this much better than I can in a youtube comment, but the video features HEAVY spoilers for the manga, so don't watch it if you not caught up. There's also the idea or theory that the narrator herself will play a role in the story because of the fact that the narrator within JJK is an unreliable narrator which is often seen with postmoderism.

[@jadenrobinson1561]

@@FirmlyGrasp_IT I appreciate it but I’m not reading this, nor did I read the other person’s comment.

[@ShadyGainz]

The reason JJK has amazing explanation is because It's confirmed that the more your explain your Ability/domain or any technique it instantly becomes even stronger

[@Reed..]

Most of the time the good explanations come from the narrator or another person

[@jermanizer]

binding vows

[@PhantomCheddar]

tbh, more than anything that seemed like a shoehorned way to make the classic anime trope of explaining your powers less dumb

[@OldpeopleArguing]

Tony a W for not spoiling that mahito shit I read manga too 😂

[@kristopherwillis8075]

Me to 😂

[@mzwethu3805]

which part of the manga was it? was it the "'í'm you ' panel?

[@ThaRealOne436]

I’m glad that even if he can’t get into it, Mark acknowledges just how fucking good of a writer is Araki is with Jojo’s. Like even before Part 7(without a doubt his best written stuff), the man can cook Writers and directors like Araki, Fujimoto, Hideo Kojima, Yoko Taro, Sam Lake, etc. are really important because they’re guaranteed to shake some shit up and think outside the box EVERY TIME they decide to drop

[@PrinceLobo-es8kl]

he is a good writer but half of jojo is trash , first , third and fourth are dogshit. jospeh hard carries second . after that its good

[@ThaRealOne436]

@@PrinceLobo-es8kl while part 1 and 3 aren’t his best, a shit ton of people have part 4 as their favorite because of Yoshikage Kira and how he fits in with the rest of the part Even then I wouldn’t say part 3 is dogshit, its mid at best with how drawn out it gets but everything after they get to Egypt is pretty damn solid imo

[@saveyabreath680]

@@PrinceLobo-es8klthey are not that bad you are juicing it for no reason

[@saissins]

​@@PrinceLobo-es8klthis is part of why JOJOS is so good bc 3 and 4 are my favorite seasons and I barely liked 2. Arakis variety is top tier

[@KamenSoL]

@@PrinceLobo-es8kl4 is the 2nd best stop it

[@Akiraspin]

Mahito making fun of Junpei using a sockpuppet-like hand gotta be the most demontime shit I've ever seen a villain do in anime. Even Orochimaru wasn't that savage.

[@sethwilliams9744]

Mahito is definitely evil, it’s just the irony is that he’s made from the evil that is humans. Whether he believes he’s evil or not, curses may feel attacked but they’re killing innocent people and sorcerers remove those curses it’s just the way it is.

[@QuestsByDHAWK]

Factz Curses are made from humans but when mahito says him and yuji are the same they truly are cuz yuji is technically born from a curse while magito is the opposite

[@hinamatsuro1908]

Not really, evil for us not them. Mahito was right that itadori is just like him but they're just on opposite sides. They're only doing what's natural to them to fuel their instincts. Just like how people may hunt innocent animals for food to survive, curses do the same with people to fuel the hunger they have. What's evil for them isn't really evil but just different morals.

[@sethwilliams9744]

@@hinamatsuro1908 just because the nazis thought they were cleansing the world of evil doesn’t make them right, perspective doesn’t equal morally correct

[@Dickinthesenutzs27]

@@sethwilliams9744 ong

[@cuthisface]

@@sethwilliams9744its literally the same thing when sorcerers kill/remove innocent curses, same thing geto was doing b4 his death. Innocent curses getting killed - Innocent humans getting killed. There is no right or wrong

[@jeffyboyreloaded]

mahito's cursed technique is so fcking creepy it makes the character 10x more wicked

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Mahito popping Nobara's eyeball had me rolling 😂 Good on the author for not being scared to kill characters

[@jahworst]

gege killing off characters is like a double edged sword like yea its shocking but then its like there was zero emotion behind it and we dont even know if shes dead or not rlly

[@BAEHELPJAYDO]

​@@jahworstshe dead bro

[@VASLANGA122]

@@BAEHELPJAYDOmaybe maybe not.

[@flockaveli15]

@@BAEHELPJAYDObut is it confirmed? I know zenin leader death is confirmed and we saw nanami get wiped out. But I thought them leaving the body was kind of them not really confirming it. I thought even in manga they didn’t confirm it

[@paapa-kofiagyekum1814]

@@jahworstthat’s the whole point of jjk. There are no glorious deaths and no time to mourn

[@demonicstorm4057]

Tony is always welcome on the stream

[@RandomShowerThoughts]

Who is that?

[@Staticsenju]

@@RandomShowerThoughts Content Creator stuff on Twitter is hilarious

[@sxham04]

​@@RandomShowerThoughtshe got famous off of tiktok, he's funny asf

[@AlexSummary]

I like Tony, but after awhile the man just kept skipping from one topic to the other without any rest that I had to tune out for a min lol

[@brodiethegoaty849]

Bro just invited someone to another person's stream

[@luhkaiay]

tony is baked asf😂

[@omarredi]

I wish I enjoyed JJK like everyone else. As cold as the choreography for the fights are, I can't find myself to care or be emotionally invested in anyone.

[@triypie]

Fair bro I think it’s mostly coz of the troupes and similarities to other shounen makes people almost numb to new anime’s like jjk so it’s understandable to not really get into the characters like that if u ask me I would say just watch hunter x hunter now that’s a cult classic

[@itzcandy5896]

Same I’m like this show must be for meatheads cuz the fighting and deaths are great but the story and characters and are so bad to me. I don’t like any of them

[@Villain_of_Overhype]

Yeah, like even if I enjoyed the story, I wouldn’t know because I’ve been spoiled on like every big moment by manga readers, so at this point I sorta just watch it for the spectacle like Demon Slayer. It’s like the biggest reason I prefer CSM personally (the manga specifically). While the fights and action scenes aren’t as crazy or hype, the characters and the story the author wants to tell resonate a lot more with me and feel more special overall. JJK’s story and cast are solid, but the abilities and fights are like 85% of the appeal.

[@ShadowKryzis]

i thought i was the only person in the world to feel like this. I agree as well, the fights and character deaths are cool and all but I don't feel now way about them. They toss a background story last minute, right before the person dies to make us feel bad but it doesn't give as much impact if we already knew these characters story and watched them grow beforehand. Tbh, it's a bit overrated.

[@travisealy3512]

I think it’s because you haven’t seen or been around the characters long enough. I think it’s just moving a lil too fast. It needs to slow down and let us settle in a lil imo

[@FakeWeeb]

RDC finally talking about JJK?! Locked in 😤

[@bigdave9649]

You late they been talking about jjk

[@ninjaxshins7072]

@@bigdave9649yeah literally every back and forth is filled with talk about jjk they need a talk about sum else

[@gojomugen]

you are BEHIND

[@ucornyfr8690]

@@ninjaxshins7072better then Naruto lol every back and forth has Naruto for like 10 minutes

[@TRJ42]

@@ucornyfr8690 really I actually like the Naruto content Well, it’s probably cause I’m a big fan of the show I really wanna see them talk about one piece matchups as well too

[@vicc6790]

Bro the gap is so big it's like Gojo is from a whole different anime than everyone else

[@jomamatan]

Japan is always gonna be the primary target audience. Doesn't matter how well the anime/manga does anywhere else, it's all secondary on the list of priorities for them

[@JackAglet]

That’s true. I feel like a lot of people forget that sometimes since anime became more mainstream

[@salter149]

Right look at what happened with the chainsaw man director

[@dd-lv6ee]

I wouldn't even be surprise if Japan hates us. We leak everything before official release. Absolutely no respect lmao.

[@jjhaya]

Yeah, and I believe Studios doesn't care much about Anime fans abroad especially those who watch shows on illegal sites (guilty of this) . I believe in the JJK manga especially since there are references that are unknown outside of Japan .

[@zodd2fois888]

Has it should be

[@deshaunfortune912]

Im happy yall watched Blue Eye Samurai and giving it the attention it deserves. If people dont support this show it won't get a season 2.

[@realchaosfactory681]

I’ll have to check it out. I’m not a fan of that anime style but the description sounded interesting.

[@b0Okem]

Definitely was a hidden gem it reminded me of samurai champloo

[@LeelosAdventure]

These vids are legit straight good vibes. Y’all are such a w group bro

[@LucyLuci88]

Bro I can’t believe people are still saying Naruto vs pain was badly animated. Objectively speaking any animator will tell you that is incorrect. You can say you don’t like the style but the animation for that fight is some of the most incredibly ANIMATED moments in anime history. Saying shingo yamashita, norio Matsumoto and kenichi kutsuna can’t animate is what you’re saying when you say the fight was not well animated. It’s funny cause these people literally have given us some of the best animated things ever

[@WuntaykTimmy1]

It's nothing more entertaining than hearing people talk about shit they love

[@bernarda9244]

Can’t wait until Tony and TDC chemistry becomes perfect. Within the space of this video the synergy was improving like crazy 😂

[@WillGames215]

The person y’all talking about her death was instant the anime slowed it down for viewers and she had to be killed because not only was she a direct counter for mahito she was also a counter for geto since the ability attacks the soul similar to Yuji if you let them grow and get stronger they become a bigger problem for special grades

[@flockaveli15]

Actually they still debate in the manga if she’s actually dead. Something actual happens in manga to her and the characters never say she’s dead the same way they say nanami or zenin leader

[@Official_NOM_]

It was the exact same pace bruh lol what you talking bout

[@Aloneinthesn0w]

⁠​⁠@@flockaveli15she’s dead bro it’s been multiple arcs even if she wasn’t there wouldn’t really be any point keeping her alive

[@flockaveli15]

@@Aloneinthesn0w I mean I’m not arguing her importance but I’m just saying I thought there was a panel where a character mentions working on her. And maybe something changed but last time I checked everytime she’s bright up they never mention her actually being dead like they do everyone else. But hey I could be wrong and maybe they actually admitted it but I’m just saying even with them going chapters without her they never truly confirmed it but again I could be wrong

[@aaronfrantz25]

@flockaveli15 Dawg, Chapter 144 is when Gege confirms that's shit, whenter we like it or not. Anime is gonna add more depth to Yuji but that's how I always took her death confirmation

[@mauricemosley6520]

Saying Mahito isn't evil is crazy I'd say he's up there in at least top 3 most evil characters in show. Jogo and Yuji actually seem more alike cause they're fighting for a cause to better their species, but Mahito is deadass just playing with people's lives and making sure he hoes them as efficiently as possible. The "I'm you" scene is tough but at the end of the day Mahito and Sukuna are legit the only ones who actively play with lives just to do so, just evil to be evil

[@jayat0ms150]

RIP Toriyama 🙏🏽

[@dd-lv6ee]

This man Mark really said Araki is a good writer I just don't fuck with what he writes😂

[@GokuSolosFictionCope]

Back and forth literally the best series

[@Skywalkersview]

I hear y'all about the actual episode of G5. But the actual FEELING it brought watching it was crazy. I was smiling the whole time. Peak joy. But yeah the reuses animations took away from how dope the actual episode was.

[@TonRoller]

Tony has to remember that Yujis strength isn’t random his genetics stem from kenjaku and a blood line relative to sakunas. Hence why he has a similar facial structure and pink hair as well. he’s only a year 1 sorcerer. a Y1 with a body durable enough and raw strength great enough to keep up with a perfect HR user

[@jermanizer]

where u get the info for the blood line relative? I've been read up on the manga, and I guess that it makes sense, regarding the pink hair thing, but still

[@nuhwannnun]

@@jermanizerSPOILERS kenjaku had taken control of yuji's mom, making him a cursed womb: death painting for an experiment he wanted to run, along with choso and the other two because kenjaku was in her body and birthed yuji, he is his son

[@ominousmist960]

These live back and forth videos are carrying my 2023 frrrrrrr. Im so excited for the next one.

[@FirmlyGrasp_IT]

For anyone saying JJK is just fights read this if you have time. JJK is actually a very complex story that can actually be difficult to wrap your head around sometimes. The reader does have to actually dig in order to understand what the hell a lot of stuff means or why its relevant for the themes of JJK. To start with the most simple and obvious theme, yet often forgot about by some and that is death. Death is a huge theme in JJK. JJK is about coming to terms with yourself and valuing yourself. Yuji's grandpa taught Yuji to respect others so that he can die surrounded by others on his deathbed. It is constantly said that no sorcerer dies without regrets in the series and that is because no sorcerer is able to take hold of their inner desires and accept themselves. Death is a huge theme within JJK not because Gege Akutumi wanted to write a story with an abundance of stakes and consequences (which actually is a plus for the series as these consequences drive the characters to destinations that give a certain richness to the series' themes), but the reason for why death is such a prominent theme within JJK is because Gege wishes to highlight life and how precious it is. JJK is one of the most gut wrenching, yet beautiful stories I've ever read. The more you go through JJK the more you notice a fascinating trend. That trend is that the "selfish" people, which are often the villains, are constantly rewarded by the story. If you have a strong sense of self and understanding of what it is that makes you you, the world of JJK will reward you time and time again. You can do heinous shit like Sukuna, but if you have a strong sense of self, the narrative aligns with your ideals. On the flip side, the selfless are constantly punished over and over again. If you notice, the "good side" has almost never caught a real W and that maintains all the way through to where we are in the manga, barring one character. Perhaps the most interesting thing about JJK to me is that it is a postmodernist story, which means it has a ton and I mean a ton of meta themes all throughout the story. What Gege Akutami has managed to do with JJK is essentially blur the lines between fiction and reality. This may seem crazy and bullshit to some, but it absolutely holds validity within JJK. A postmodernist story is one that basically throws out the idea of fact or objective truth. The world of JJK seems simple, it's just japan and curses and sorcerers inhabit it right? Well the more you think about it and get to the root of what these characters represent, the more you realize that the world of JJK seems off, almost like it doesn't feel like a story, it almost feels real in a way, like you can't really imagine a human making something like this. Sukuna is the biggest example as to why JJK is a postmodernist story. Essentially, Gege has written Sukuna in a way that his character is completely immune to the readers perception or interpretation of him. When experiencing a story how you perceive a character is what that character becomes. Pretty much, the reader's mind defines the story and its world. Well, Sukuna is not under the control of the reader in this same way with how he's written. Your perception of Sukuna cannot define him in any way. Sure, you can have your thoughts about him, but it doesn't change who he is, similar to real person. Sukuna has an agency over himself and the world of JJK that I've never seen before and it goes beyond simply being strong. In a weird way Sukuna is above the story itself, the story bends the knee to Sukuna and serves him and does whatever Sukuna wants. The narrator herself doesn't even fully understand Sukuna. Sukuna is even above you, as the reader/watcher. Which is actually really weird, but also fascinating to think about. A really interesting idea that I've seen people discuss is that Sukuna isn't a fictional character made by Gege Akutami, moreso the Sukuna we see in JJK is the mythological legend "Ryomen Sukuna". This legend was grabbed and dropped within the pages of JJK and now that legend has free will to do whatever he wants with the characters and world Gege created. A video by Radman fully delves into this much better than I can in a youtube comment, but the video features HEAVY spoilers for the manga, so don't watch it if you not caught up. There's also the idea or theory that the narrator herself will play a role in the story because of the fact that the narrator within JJK is an unreliable narrator which is often seen with postmoderism. JJK is a thematic masterpiece, that presents itself as a battle shonen.

[@sydn2698]

Nah. JJK not that deep. Sukana ain’t all that. Honestly don’t care for the characters as well- for a theme that should highlight the value of life, the story really should make the viewers more attached to the characters. Hell, I’m sure watchers are 90% more attached to Gojo than the ML

[@FirmlyGrasp_IT]

@@sydn2698 buffoon

[@LilShiro05]

@@sydn2698for real his ass was just yappin😭

[@golden_gaming2137]

Tht man type a book. But just bc it’s about jjk ima read it

[@Dell-ol6hb]

😂 stop the cap, I’ve been reading this series weekly for years and it gets more apparent every week that this shit is only about the fights, there’s barely any fucking character interactions or development outside of fights. The last time this series had any kind of serious emotional weight throughout a whole arc was Shiubya

[@IDoThisNoCAP]

Jjk is setting the tone for anime that is about to be amazing. One just came out with a manga that is amazing and Sakamoto Days is up next.

[@parcival3016]

Ik it's too late for this but I do wanna clear up some things about Daima. Its only 2.5 original arcs in the manga after 5 years and it's not really that good. The amount of content that is out in the manga is about enough for 24 episodes or 6months of weekly content (JJK S2 for perspective) before they have to do another break for who knows how long. Daima exists to have something in between Super Hero and the next film. It's a web series and not a TV series meaning they have a little more freedom, behind the scenes the production staff is some of the best at Toei and the reasoning for them being kids is so they cant go crazy with the powers and have to actually fight with their hands. This show is going to be an animation flex full of fight scenes and new places we've never seen before. Toriyama was already a multi millionaire before he ever drew the first chapter of Dragon Ball, so he's definitely not doing it for the bag and moreso because he wants to tell a new story. so far everything he has worked closely on has been really good. Ik it's still gonna be people that aren't tryna hear all this and still gonna hate but it's gonna be live and dare I say better than the first season of super. Also Toriyama not writing the Super manga. He gives notes and Toyotaro takes them and makes his story based off it. That's why there was so many differences from the anime. Even in the Super Hero recap

[@kourtneyr.scruggs0988]

14:40 Nah, I know what big bro Tony is talking about. The semi toon force art style of the Pain fight was crazy looking. And it made literally no sense narratively as well as according to the rules of the universe. Gear Five Luffy channeling Toon Force as a power and a fighting style makes sense narratively AND according to the rules of the universe. It wasn’t a mistake, it was a choice and a decision that the creative crew made, implemented and executed. But even as I say that I feel like you can interpret the art style as a symbolic representation of the tonal shift in power scaling from that point forward in the series. Because it goes from magic wielding ninjas to magical giant chakra mech wearing super people with the power to throw meteors at each other that also sometimes use ninja tactics. It’s like watching a cartoon while living in a cartoon. Absolute insanity.

[@kenDoggg]

I think what killed gear 5 is that everyone compared it to super saiyan 1 so the expectation was at an all time high and it didn’t hit the way I think it should’ve

[@astrocade9541]

And they spoiled the hell out if it. Most ppl first time seeing super saiyan was on the anime

[@kenDoggg]

@@astrocade9541 this as well 💯

[@TRJ42]

@@kenDoggg that, and I think another reason is because the one piece fans pissed off the other anime fandoms with the shit talk

[@leylaali1982]

Also why people think super Saipan is like the best transformation in anime. I get it’s iconic but I got Bankai, and sage mode, and low key even gear 2nd better

[@TRJ42]

Gear second that’s kind of disrespectful at least super Saiyan was foreshadow gear 2. It was an asspull

[@1Haley]

Mahito is straight 🔥 always on demon time

[@kalm5408]

43:02 To sum it up, Promised Neverland season 2 was basically promotion to the manga. That's how I saw it and decided to read the manga. They went through over 100 manga chapters in a 2 minute slideshow in the last episode.

[@deshaunfortune912]

Cursed Spirits are for sure evil lol

[@daniic5175]

they arent evil in their minds thats the point cause thats what they do

[@dmetriusmarch]

@@daniic5175im sure hitler aint think he was evil to. Ion think that matters

[@nelschnyder]

Best back and forth, Tony got valid points and we need more of him on these mfs

[@Falco-Lombardi]

The next two episodes of jjk are going to be amazing

[@mimi_j]

I’m trying to get to it gyatdamn 😂😂 Lee kills me. He speaks so gently when he raises his voice

[@bra_willy]

Mahito is a child, not just mentally but he came into existence around the same time the series started lol

[@BWizard1]

16:30 I can't believe Tony would say some dumb shit like that after making some pretty solid points. Jojo might have more chapters than One Piece, but that says nothing about the "pacing" of either show. The chapter density isn't even comparable. One Piece has so much more information and world building it needs to fit in to properly tell the story. Jojo has had fights where a singular move takes up 7 pages. That is almost half a chapter for 1 attack and we are saying one piece has horrible pacing? Not to mention Jojo is written in parts that are pretty much separate stories. One piece is one continuous story. The shit people will pull out of their asses to make their anime better than another one is actually sad. Why can't 2 different things still be good anymore? It's always a contest of what show is better than another show.

[@ayubmohamed8450]

I agree it’s kinda like American are obsessed with sword fights cause people never use to see them

[@daylight_gfg]

Yuji is on straight rock lee timing. “Meet me on the street with these 👊🏾”

[@bigchune6306]

two blue actually has me feeling like how shippuden had me feeling back in the day that shit fire

[@y2j830]

I’ve been looking for this comment. People sleeping on Two Blue Vortex

[@bigchune6306]

thank you fr shits crazy@@y2j830

[@dreux_]

Tony really just be saying shit like it’s his own thoughts when he actually just read the manga.

[@mariodude247]

Y’all do know DAIMA is written by Toriyama himself right? In super he did just provide like cliff notes for the story and wasn’t as involved so no argument there but it still has enjoyable moments, it’s more fanservice for OG dragon ball viewers in the first half.

[@tyratooOP]

That whole conversation pissed me off. I normally don't get heated on B&Fs even when they are SUPER wrong but the level of ignorance and disrespect genuinely made me upset. Like they saw them being turned into kids and nothing else and that's it. And had the gull to shit on new gen fans and say DB fans eat up everything. Hell when Super came out the ratings across the board weren't amazing after a while because people saw the series how it was and stopped watching. If they eat up everything, the ratings for the whole series woukd have been way bigger AND Super would already be back

[@donovanpitts6907]

Envy, Perospero, Pitou, Gin Ichimaru, and Zancrow are a few that come to mind.

[@hasan3step570]

perospero is not annoying tbh. big mom herself way more annoying

[@BillKapri7]

peroin-LICK

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Pitou not annoying, just doing her job.

[@kristopherwillis8075]

​@@thelegacyofgaming2928his job

[@astatic2120]

to me the butterfly in hxh was more annoying that pitou

[@lee-cl8td]

Most of the jjk cast are dawgsss. Doesnt matter if they're outmatched indefinitely they are ready to throw hands. Yuuji, Nobara, Megumi, Panda, Maki, Todo, mechamaru literally all of them never backed down from a fight even if they were most likely going to lose. Thats not even the entire list.

[@1nonlybsamurai]

JJK have me waiting for the next episode every Thursday. Only Naruto made me feel that way.

[@HWHGunn]

* Possibly Spoilers Pretty sure Itadori's Divergent Fist is not his cursed technique. It is just putting cursed energy around his fists along with sukuna buff. Itadori doesn't truly have a technique yet, recently people started to think he could awaken them soon.

[@brandonscorner9184]

You’re correct, it’s not a cursed technique. It’s just an adaptation he made for a bad habit. Right now the theory is that he has some kind of soul manipulation power.

[@RegReg02]

there is no Sukuna buff. this isn't Naruto. Sukuna's soul being in Yuji's body doesn't give Yuji a powerup...he's just in his body, thats it.

[@Jay-lj4nv]

mark still coughing bruh?

[@Darkdirewulf]

He been coughing since the 80s

[@Jay-lj4nv]

@@Darkdirewulf real shit though 😭

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

He got lung problems

[@lordpookie]

his immune system is ass

[@Jay-lj4nv]

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 ……. Asthma 😭❓ Nigga I got that too and barley cough

[@kevinak-d1x]

Sukuna is legit my favorite villain ever.

[@laurencollins481]

Tony was about to get the good Ole RDC jumping because he likes Mahito

[@ImJustCam]

“He killed dragon ball after daima” RIP the goat

[@FrescoRahbo]

JJK doesn’t hit for me like that. I can’t make myself care about these characters

[@levikekman5979]

i only care bout megumi and yuta at thi point

[@swagman2001]

@@levikekman5979stupid comment

[@FrescoRahbo]

@@levikekman5979 They don’t develop these characters at all

[@levikekman5979]

@FrescoRahbo I thought they developed Yuta and megumi pretty well especially their past

[@mzwethu3805]

@@FrescoRahbo they do develop them well, they just don't spend hundreds of episodes doing it. Plus the themes of being killed off young and before your true potential shows have been established and talked about since episode 2

[@SlimeLane]

Naraku from Inuyasha is the MOST annoying villain. This man constantly talks shit behind some kind of force field or barrier and constantly gets away

[@itssullayman7591]

I love how this near hour long video starts with “Aye real quick..” 😂

[@Rj_mclean]

Jjk brings that naruto feeling back in terms of likeable characters great boxing and high stakes like season 1 of naruto you thought it was up for anybody besides naruto and sasuke fr jjk does the same thing any given time somebody stronger can pop out of nowhere and take a character out and you feel emotionally attached cuz you know somebody can die unlike a one piece where you see people go through struggles but you know none of the straw hats ever taking a true L fr

[@LaughterDash-i9t]

People be forgetting Mahito is a literal child he's roughly 7 months old right now that's why he's so goofy

[@dmetriusmarch]

7 months isnt a child for a curse. Dont put human standards on curses who grow mentally differently

[@dmetriusmarch]

@@LaughterDash-i9t nigga he isnt a litterally child brain curse he’s CHILDISHHHHH. What kid can go ok a rant about philosophy while beating up yuji? Be serious bro . Mereum was also a week old but are u gonna calm him a child? No cuz he had the brain of a 25 year old

[@davionbrown8302]

@@dmetriusmarchnanami himself called mahito a child

[@dmetriusmarch]

@@davionbrown8302 thatw not an argument. Mahito mentally is not a child. Idk why y’all dying on such a meaningless hill… dagonis more of a child than mahito but nobody gives a fuck to call dagon a child. Its just so stupid

[@davionbrown8302]

@@dmetriusmarch because no one knows dagons age? Hes most likely a child like mahito though since he was a cursed womb

[@Maes777]

JJK’s power system’s intricacy is second only to Hunter X Hunter

[@Reed..]

Nah

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

HxH on top

[@TaIIer]

It might be over HxH ngl

[@kexon2]

@@TaIIerdont even cap like that jjk glaze is crazy

[@duobrownies2979]

Stands?

[@BevinEG]

Anime fans are like gangs tbh.

[@LighttheCelestial]

This shit mean everything to me - Mark Phillips

[@joewall8210]

Alot of the power system is derived from HxH. Like the risk and binding vow stuff.

[@servandoherrera7550]

Mahito is definitely evil, the dude couldn’t care less about his own guys

[@kappachino335]

I don't know about yall, but the latest One Piece chapters are really justifying why One Piece continues to be as long as it as. Yall can't tell me you're disregarding that 👀👀

[@notcaleb9828]

22:04 lmfao this nigga hilarious, mark side eyeing was perfect too 😂

[@hasan3step570]

the main girl and mc from Future Diary. love that show but the main chars can got to HELL 😂

[@GDKF0238]

How good is the show that you hate the mains wtf??? 😭😭😭

[@codetheartisttv3880]

That show sound gay as shit tbh

[@quattromat8404]

Future Diary had me heated up foreal 😂😂

[@hasan3step570]

@@GDKF0238 i really fw the shows premise and characters but the mc is the defenition of a bitch and his girl is a demon (in the worst way)

[@treyc6988]

Definitely an underrated and under valued anime

[@Impkingj]

The reason Tengen’s fight had to come first is cus it shows how some hashira are on a different level. Like these two made light work of higher ranked kizuki cus they’re just like that

[@phreshmark]

Nah, its cause Yuji literally built different

[@emxwrld7277]

Note: it is stated that Gyutaro was only ranked upper moon 6 because of his sister who at best was the top ranked lower moon. Without her he’d been ranked 4.

[@shadowyfauna9891]

Hell's Paradise is underrated as a bitch. I refuse to believe it's a "regular" anime/manga. It deserves to be in the dark trio and as an anime adaptation, its 10x better than chainsaw man. Mappa hoed CSM but they glorified the look of HP.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

I think the HP anime adaption kinda hoed it, it had mediocre animation and they ended it right before you really they locked in with the cast. The strongest point of HP is that the main cast is perfect, literally every character is unique, interesting and they have fun chemistry with each other. Easily one of the tightest casts I’ve ever seen in a manga

[@darkkpage2016]

People act like they weren’t locked in for the tournament of power

[@MelaninMage]

Ultra Instinct, Black Frieza, Goku Black, Ultra Ego, Broly. Mugs need to stop cappin for momentary clout

[@IonizedComa]

Mark has been coughing on streams for a while now 😂

[@sandilemlambogoblination420]

That pain episode has inspired so many young animators who's work we are watching in jjk today and many other anime shows, the hairy dude and anyone who thinks the animation in that Pain episode is bad are objectively wrong. The Sakuna vs Mohorage episode has very similar animation to the pain episode, where characters go out of model to show the chaotic insanity of the battle which happens a lot in the Sakuna v Mohorage episode as well. The Pain episode is the blueprint of this type of high scale destructive battles and how it should be done. It is simply artistic/stylistic animation that not all people can comprehend

[@OfficiallyWrexx]

Mark not liking Jojos shows his patience lmao that show is fkn GOATED you just gotta let it COOK

[@manbat4582]

How much time does it take to cook? For me, if it's 6 episodes in, around 2 hours spent, it's an indicator something is not for me

[@mzwethu3805]

if it takes more than 15 episodes to cook, then it simply isn't worth it

[@OfficiallyWrexx]

Personally I liked it from the jump cuz I’m an artist to my core so I could appreciate SO many aspects of JoJo’s. Mark is for sure a boxing first anime guy if you pay attention N look at his fav animes. That’s honestly why he couldn’t get into JoJos cuz it focuses on its artistry first, story/world/character building including power sets second N actual fighting after that. If you pay attention to the reviews by fans N nonfans you’ll notice it’s either boring/something they just couldn’t get into or it’s top tier lol. Maybe it’s an acquired taste but I truly think JoJos is one of the best manga series ever.

[@senorsavage8702]

Nothing about Jojos is goated

[@mzwethu3805]

@@OfficiallyWrexx i mean he has one piece in his favorites and that is not a boxing first anime. People just don't want to wait 20+ episodes watching a show before it gets good

[@datbo1jay1]

To the people that really believe neji was right y’all gotta watch the end of the show with ur eyes open. Neji said people are defined by their destiny and can’t change that, so if neji was right naruto was destined to continue the cycle of hatred being the reincarnation of ashura and sasuke being the reincarnation of Indra but he didn’t he broke his destiny and the cycle which was the whole point of the naruto Vs sasuke fight

[@reallyjustray]

Anime fans went from being made fun of to making fun of each other and I hate that

[@PhantomCheddar]

what dylan said about that naruto feeling not being attainable to older audiences anymore is actual facts

[@tylerjustyler]

I can’t wait for hakari to be introduced man

[@relentless_thoughts]

Don't sleep on Hell's Paradise

[@Bamsky-x8r]

Jjk is the new dbz same nostalgia level after every episode with less narrated Naruto got the coldest scripts

[@Bamsky-x8r]

Not many animes have you sitting on the edge of your seat waiting for the next drop especially if you’re older than 16

[@theechosenone4471]

Naruto vs pain animation type scenes just get me hype cuz I think of it as the fight being so crazy and characters moving so outlandish that it can’t be animated normally lol

[@Travisej2]

Rachael from tower of God. Seryu from Akame ga kill mahito from JJK envy from FMAB off the top

[@IISuzakuII]

I needed Rachael to get packed!

[@streetvybzswag1.067]

World trigger literally has the best power system of all time I'm not going to elaborate

[@Danesha_M_H]

Honestly I love Mahito. Such an amazing villain 🥰

[@jaysonjaime340]

I agree jjk does give me or remind me of the emotion I use to get when watching anime growing up, which is the reason I fell in love with anime. The scene when they shoot the vessel was so crazy I haven’t felt that way for a anime in so long!

[@Maes777]

Most annoying villain in all of anime? Naraku from Inuyasha lmao

[@rhondeboutte2983]

Let’s be real. Demon slayer season 3 isn’t bad at all. It’s not as lit as the first two but it would be insanely difficult to keep up that level of hype for that long. Most people’s main issue with it is Tanjiro mimicking Zenitsu’s Thunder breathing. Y’all gotta remember that Tanjiro uses Sun Breathing (Hinokami Kagura is a sunbreathing technique). All the other breathing techniques are derived from Sun Breathing. As a Sun Breathing Technique user, Tanjiro would be able to use whatever other technique if he can understand how it works. Granted, the way they introduced that concept was just for plot, but it makes sense.

[@davide4725]

That Pain fight was incredible at that time. People will say anything to tear down Naruto but that world, the story and the characters are iconic in anime.

[@playablecharacter3871]

This is a great friendship simulation fr I remember I used to talk to people like this