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[@goldmemberpb]

Regional forms are gamefreak actually looking at real world biological divergence. it just fits rally well with the series. There is a reason the regional forms continues past gen 7. As awesome as Megas are, they really put the artist in a creative corner because you are asking them to make an already complete pokemon with even crazier forms.

[@compatriot852]

Except this only works for certain regions. A place like galar doesn't make any sense to have regional forms considering it's not a very isolated island

[@theinternetsightseer2935]

@@compatriot852 Yet it still works like that in real life. Ever hear of the Galapagos?

[@compatriot852]

@@theinternetsightseer2935 yeah... That's why I said isolated, which Hawaii (Alola) 100% fits the description. I never said it couldn't happen in real life just that it requires a specific environment to occur in Please think before writing a nonsensical statement

[@cloudyej7535]

@@compatriot852 Galar is based off a literal Island bro…

[@obibraxton2232]

@@compatriot852 huh Britain 🇬🇧 is legit in island lmaooo what you talking about ?

[@vortex7794]

At this point everyone that has an opinion can be considered controversial

[@yourlocalraccoondealer8611]

Welcome to 2022 friend

[@ko-chanTHEBULLY]

And to gen z people canceling you for breathing the wrong way

[@FTChomp9980]

I blame my Generation a lot for this as a Zoomer I like hearing other people's opinions we need more nowadays my Generation just needs to grow up.

[@yourlocalraccoondealer8611]

@@ko-chanTHEBULLY mad facts

[@Smokey1419]

@@yourlocalraccoondealer8611 its always been like this, but now everyone has a way to voice their opinions, so its much more....in your face, i guess you could say

[@kirbybie]

“The anime RUINED pokemon. When I first played Pokémon blue-“ alright grandpa sit down, let’s get u back to the gen wunner room

[@legitlyspelunking]

People saying the anime is too childish should read the manga, I hear it's a lot more intense

[@clemente3966]

Tbh though, if that the person is a genwunner, I can see what they were meaning. Even the jolly music of Oak's lab, I can imagine it being representative of ignorance before the dark reality sinks in. Same with the music from the towns, Celadon hiding the team rocket hideout, saffron with the events of silph Co, etc. Though the concept would have mostly disappeared with gen2.

[@lumbersayshi4542]

@@legitlyspelunking Tbh, the manga isn't as dark as people say it is. Sure, the story is more intense and high stakes than the anime and i daresay the games, but it still has the friendly feel about it

[@RGC_animation]

@@lumbersayshi4542 Well Legitly didn't say it was dark, he said it was intense.

[@bewearstar9462]

The anime was going to get darker but porygon stoped that. Plus 4kids dubs suck

[@ShycoWar]

From what I can recall, the "falling out" among the community truly began with USUM's reveal. Beforehand, people were universally hyped with every trailer, and the only thing that could really be considered pretty negative was some people disliking the pace of new information for Sun & Moon. But then the Ultra games were teased, and there was a whole thing about how they felt like a scummy cash grab due to how recent the originals still were. The first _major_ outrage-again, as far as I can remember. Ever since then, literally EVERY new Pokémon game has brought at least one substantial controversy, and overall negative impressions became far more widespread, to the point where you simply cannot miss them anymore.

[@velvetvessel]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh i'd say it was a thing in gen 5 with the massive start of everyone saying "gamefreak is running out of ideas for pokemon"

[@k.d.2589]

Gen 3 was the first Dexit outrage, but back then the internet wasn't as popular for the majority of people, so it didn't seem as widespread.

[@trle964]

Ehh, I feel like it began when they cut the national dex. But even before that people kept calling game freak lazy because they introduced z moves and other stuff. the people who call game freak lazy are the ones that ruin the enjoyment of the games for me. you not liking something (and your probably still gonna buy it) doesnt equal game freak being lazy people 🙄

[@trle964]

@@velvetvessel that too

[@Calruxio]

@K. D. Yeah, I was about to say something about that. If you look hard enough, you can still find old forums and message boards talking about how "gen 3 is the end of pokemon as we know it " and stuff like that. On top of that, the first time I heard people bashing pokemon similarly to SwSh was during Black and White when social media was first super popular. You'd see a lot of people hating on those games.

[@LemonCait]

Banette has one of the most interesting backstories for a ghost type, a really cool design as well as a mega yet I don’t see this Pokemon anywhere being talked about. Also it only appeared like once in the anime. It’s not the most underrated Pokemon but it’s not relevant either. I just think it’s neat!

[@Minohorse]

Banette is peak ghost, surely in my top3 ghost Pokémon.

[@JPeticus]

Not really a controversial opinion but agreed

[@cadenphillips4235]

this pokémon is really underrated and needs more light

[@melio_ghost]

Banette was my first ever shiny so he always holds a special place in my heart

[@ko-chanTHEBULLY]

It's one of the few megas that got a mystery gift in XY/ORAS, in the US at least. Still doesn't make it a whole lot more popular but yeah. I also love It's design a lot. Even Shuppet was always really cool to me and I bred it in Ruby back in the day

[@GoinGreninja]

Regional forms being unoriginal or something like that has to be one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen and it's surprisingly popular for some reason. Of course it's not a common opinion, even among the minorities but still, the fact that there're more than a dozen people who think like this is weird to me. Regional forms give old Pokémon new life and could make them stronger depending on their type combo and/or abilities.

[@GoinGreninja]

@@thecod2345 Kinda but not really. Just because the pre-evo sometimes don't get the regional form doesn't mean it's lazy. It just means it has no reason to have it at this point since it's just fine as is right now but when it evolves, it has a reason to have it because of environmental pressure or what have you. Besides, thanks to regional forms, some Pokémon get the chance to have a regional evolution as well, making them both more memorable and more powerful. The obvious example being Hisuian Quilfish and Overquil.

[@GoinGreninja]

@@thecod2345 Fair enough. I understand wanting more significant looking regional forms and honestly, I like them too. But some of them being a bit conservative makes sense, especially Hisuian Goodra since he's literally a shy snail that doesn't wanna come out of his shell and he only does so when in other, less harsh regions. I hope they give us more significant ones this gen or if not, then make it like Hisuian Goodra where the minimal changes actually make sense.

[@Killua4100]

80% of regional variants are worse than the original form, and every regional is a damn first gen useless pokemon. And yes, they're here to make number for the pokedex (last Pokédex has like 70 Pokémon counting the regional forms, lol) The idea is fantastic but they can do much better than this.

[@GoinGreninja]

@@Killua4100 First gen were only deeply focused on the Alola games. Galar and Hisui had Pokémon from other gens having it too and a decent amount of them are stronger too. Besides, just because a regional form isn't in the higher tiers doesn't mean it's not doing great on the lower ones. Look at how amazing Alolan Muk in PU is, for example.

[@GumCow]

Depends on the mon. Most of these new forms are reskins that don't even make the original pokemon viable. I do like them because it's realistic to animals in real life, but it doesn't help the older mons at all

[@awesomeperson5150]

About Charizard, it’s not necessarily a bad design, and perhaps it is that I’ve seen it too much, but it’s not exactly the most unique design. Fire Breathing Dragons are something that are common in media

[@Minohorse]

But like he said, kids love dragons (and dinosaurs, so I'm surprised Tyrantrum line isn't more popular... or I guess it just came too late, should have been added back when Jurassic Park was still popular).

[@aoifeblack_4153]

yet it lookes like it lives in this world. it looks like its an animal that hunts, interacts with its pack and has a natural habitat. I will take a design like that over some weird wrestling tiger or a frog ninja that are more like characters than animals any day.

[@trle964]

@@aoifeblack_4153 greninja doesnt look humanoid at all! the ninja and frog part of him masks that completely. A pokemon that CAN stand on two legs doesnt mean it looks humanoid; otherwise we would be calling charizard humanoid all day by that logic. maybe its just me but i find a ninja frog way cooler than an overly promoted orange dragon. dragons arent as cool anymore in media and ive seen too much of them to be in complete awe with them.

[@protean007]

@@trle964 That may be due to dragons being *VERY* popular in media, which is the same reason I love Greninja as well.

[@joshperkins5974]

I don’t not understand the hate for charizard. Wow a popular pol one gets attention? I could see maybe people hating on pikachu but charizard? Barely in the anime and he got one extra form then the other labor starters. I feel like it’s one of those situations we’re it’s cool to hate on something popular

[@maxxus2_]

oras are incredibly underrated games. gen 6 has really seemed to have gone through slander in recent years when all they used to get were love. oras did everything right besides not including the battle frontier which was a shame yeah but it really made up for it; new megas and integration to the story, better secret bases, better concerts, an expansive post-game that felt more like a fan-game with writing more reminiscent of bw/bw2 than xy, and while not necessarily a credit to the games themselves the peak of pokemon randomizers including your own and many many others, also gen 6 was the peak of shiny hunting too

[@zirc_]

I loved ORAS, and TTARs extreme randomizer definitely made that feeling more immanent

[@mash4487]

ORAS still gets love, XY are the garbage gen 6 games

[@luchotenks2310]

I'll never get tired of saying this: If they had given ORAS a battle frontier, hyper training and nature mints, I'd literally have no reason to move past gen 6 and play other pokemon games. Game Freak nearly grasped perfection with ORAS.

[@josephdibs3724]

I don't think ORAS has ever been underrated

[@auralucario7786]

ORAS was my first game so I don't know nostalgia wise it's great but it was a very loved game. It wasn't that underrated but it might be now, but it's definitely popular.

[@connerscott2687]

My only controversial take is that Mythical pokemon and Mystery Gifts in general are pretty bad. I loved the old games where they would distribute an item that would take you to a new part of the map where you could then battle and capture that mythical. More recent games have just been throwing them around like confetti. I do like how the Sword and Shield DLCs have done them, with Keldeo being available through normal gameplay, and the Delta Episode in ORAS with Deoxys being available through normal gameplay. And the Zeraora event in Sword and Shield, where everyone had to defeat a million Zeraoras. I hope that this is evidence of things to come in Scarlet and Violet.

[@lukrio99990]

I concur, as well as adding I think having events locked out of player interaction if you missed the time frame to participate in the event stinks. they never bring opportunities to try them back. I know for me as a kid I didn't even know half the events existed cause I lived in a small town and didn't have internet access back then. even if mythical pokemon aren't required for pokedex completion, i remember that zorua is for BW and the events required to unlock it are long gone now :(

[@Draezeth]

I don't think anyone actually disagrees with you.

[@InitialPC]

I actually think the reverse, I've been starting to get into Pokemon and since the mythics are gifts and event exclusive there is no way to legitimately get them in the older games you can only get them in confetti form later on.

[@chonky1364]

Unova’s regional pokedex is actually really nice and enjoyable

[@thepokemonqueen]

I definitely agree, I've been replaying all the unova games and I've had a lot of fun coming up with different teams for each game

[@whimsy5340]

yuh

[@thekeegster6278]

It’s definitely the best regional dex out of any game in the series. Nowadays though, it sucks that a lot of the Pokémon can’t be obtained in the original game due to not being able to trade

[@MudkipPog]

But trubbish😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@luchotenks2310]

Too bad the coolest ones take forever to evolve. Seriously, what's so broken about Bisharp, Braviary, Mandibuzz, Mienshao, Vanilluxe, Volcarona, Hydreigon, etc that they evolve so late? The last 2 I can understand because they are pseudo-legendaries and are obtained late game, but level 64 is just too much. Even Dragonite evolves at level 55. Meanwhile other strong pokemon like Haxorus, the last stage of a 3-stage evolutionary line and with the second highest attack stat among non-legendaries at the time, could be obtained at a more reasonable level (48). Maybe these levels work on gen 5 games given how the storyline and accessibility of pokemon are structured, but when you take these pokemon out of Unova and put them in other settings, it completely messes up the grinding experience.

[@hhjan594]

I always loved regional forms. As a biologist, this concept just makes so much sense to me, pokemon should grow differently in different regions. It's always fresh air to see that certain old pokemon can live into a brand new concept. I mean, who was using Corsola before Gen8? I never thought they would combine the concept of industrial pollution causing dead bleach coral into this pokemon, and it fucking smashes.

[@protean007]

I think that Gamefreak has been avoiding obvious candidates for potential good regional evolutions, like Dunsparce. TBH, I used to think that Dunsparce evolved into Drampa, but no matter how cool that would've been, it was not the case.

[@hhjan594]

@@protean007 I personally believe Dunsparce deserves a normal cross-gen evolution, just like Ursaluna and Wyrdeer.

[@tivednagol9127]

People _still_ aren't using Corsola; not the original one, anyway. What does Galarian Corsola do for regular Corsola? Nothing.

[@protean007]

@@hhjan594 I agree, but imo Ursaluna was kinda too much, like you could just buff Ursaring, because Ursaring is already fully evolved in my eyes.

[@protean007]

@@tivednagol9127 Idk why but Gamefreak seems to be somewhat "afraid" to change older pokemon and decide instead to make new versions of said old pokemon. However, there is no way other than adding another new evolution after the previous evolution that would make a fully evolved mon be viable again. Granted, it wouldn't make sense as something like Corsola turning into Cursola would be a type change out of no where.

[@misterzygarde6431]

You know how Unova only had Pokemon introduced be available with Pokemon from previous gens be post-game only in Black and White? I think a downplayed version that includes old Pokemon as long as they got a pre-evolutuon, evolution, regional variant, or a regional variant that evolves into a new Pokemon would work well. Also I think pre-evolutions/baby Pokemon could work as ways to get access to Pokemon earlier without making things too easy.

[@Missingno_Miner]

BW was the right way of doing dexit

[@tallmyster1323]

Okay, now this is the way to do a proper hot take, well thought!

[@BlazingKhioneus]

I do wonder why most baby Pokémon in the generations theyre introduced literally only act as Pokédex filler that you *need* to breed for then *in future games* they finally get placed in early areas to give access to the lines.

[@colepalmer4744]

My take: I would rather have a Mon like Garboder than Dunsparce or Spinda. At least they tried with the first one

[@conejitorosada2326]

They SERIOUSLY need to give these two an Evo or better stats

[@ill_luck]

It’s been pretty unanimous ever since they were introduced that the community has absolutely loved regional forms

[@GoinGreninja]

Yep. Except to a tiny tiny minority of smoothbrains who somehow think this ingenious concept is somehow very lazy even though in real life, stuff like this does actually happen. And it also gives them cooler design, type combo, abilities and some even have a chance to evolve when their previous form couldn't.

[@aoifeblack_4153]

@@GoinGreninja and it gives so much exposition about the regions and their real life counterparts, just think of ratata and yungoos (just to elaborate)

[@ImmortalXGaming]

@@GoinGreninja bro we get it regional variants are good. Why are you so rattled?

[@GoinGreninja]

@@ImmortalXGaming I'm not too rattled or anything like that. I guess I heard this opinion a tad too much this past week, keeping me a bit on edge when hearing it.

[@ImmortalXGaming]

@@GoinGreninja so you are rattled.

[@mentaluntildawn2412]

I genuinely think that the dual game release is so heavily anti-consumer, but also what has been so integral in the Pokemon company's success. In Japan it makes a little more sense to have two games because spaces are very dense with other players and it encourages interactivity, but outside of those zones and in the rest of the world, it gatekeeps people from being able to complete the game properly. Having the pokedex uncompletable in any version of the game without having at least 1 other game (or several) is just frustrating. I've never liked it even as a kid. No parent wants to buy their kid multiple consoles and games just so they can "complete" it, so you're left then just wandering around in an perpetualy unfinished game forever. For me personally, I remember being the only kid who had pokemon in a rural setting with no internet. In either leaf green, platinum, or black version I had close to 500 hours in one save because I kept trying to find the other pokemon. I didn't know I couldn't complete it without the other games. Same with mythical pokemon and special gifts. I think they gatekeep too.

[@dr.trousers6101]

I like this

[@cir0plus]

So true. They are kinda stuck into the duel sales now though. A big reason I loved PLA is the fact it was only one game. But money rules, and people out there that will buy both.

[@darcidious99]

Yep, but if you even bring this issue up you're "not a real fan" and "its always been this way so there's 0 problems". Been saying it since x&y but people look at you like you're crazy😂.

[@Uiselmo]

I disagree even in America it’s help bring people together my friends would have the differnt version even today I see which version my friend wants to get so if we can trade we can. If not I go Pokémon forums and meet new people that way. It’s not really a cash grab. You don’t need it to complete the game it’s not truly keeping you from it. It’s the same thing as saying trade evolution are gate keeping

[@mentaluntildawn2412]

@@Uiselmo I understand how it encourages connectivity for sure. But, for the few people such as myself who did not have internet, friends who played the game, or knowledge on why I couldn't catch every pokemon, it was frustrating trying to engage in my favourite aspect of the game. That is; learning about each pokemon (pokedex entries) and having a complete collection. I think the answer to "how do I get a gengar?" shouldn't be "you can't." That's my point.

[@ledcads]

My unpopular take: I'm very fine with the exp. share always on. Actually, I want all my pokemon to reach lvl 100 as quickly as possible

[@Iyaz45]

i just want the option to turn on/off. so im not overlevelped during the main story, but it can help me train when my mons are lvl 60 in the postgame

[@sammydray5919]

People just want the option to turn it off. Why is that so hard for some people to understand I will never comprehend

[@JulianCaesaro]

Honestly I enjoy it too. What’s the point of grinding for like 10 hours a Pokémon when you can cut into sixths

[@bern9642]

@@A_Ali173 nah. They want the game to be more challenging. You don't need to grind without exp share.

[@bern9642]

@@JulianCaesaro you don't need to grind even without exp share. Pokemon are easy to raise.

[@jellomochas]

10:35 Leaf Blade's animation depicts a grass sword, and the Grass-Fighting-type Virizion, Hisuian Lilligant, and Hisuian Decidueye can learn the move.

[@zememerr2329]

3:23 With more and more Pokémon getting introduced, a phenomenon called “power creep” gets increasingly worse in competitive. Dexit was the single biggest push back against power creep in competitive, with strong Pokémon like Ash-Greninja not running around in OU anymore it lets other Pokémon work in its place. Many competitive players will also argue removal of moves like Hidden Power was healthy for the meta, as it gave Pokémon like Volcarona too many options to oppress other Pokémon (especially ones with 4X weakness.) I’m not the biggest fan of Dexit myself, but objectively I do think it helped combat some of the insanity Gen 6 and 7 had to face like the Primals and Megas

[@longbeing]

Unfortunately, the Galar legendaries also contribute pretty heavily to power creep. At least, some of them (especially Zacian) are insanely powerful

[@demonkid8284]

Regional forms are the best thing added, to me. It’s a fresh or even old spin on a Pokémon. Bringing up older concepts that got lost. Or adding a new element that we never thought of to a Pokémon. Or even just making it cooler. Legend really put a fun new spin on the concept of it all. I hope we get more ones like it.

[@haraldhey9210]

Depends on the regional form imo. If it is actually interesting like galarian Corsola, I am all for them. If they are literally just canon type swaps like the alolan Sandshrew line then I say throw them in the trash. I want regional forms to be interesting twists that make sense, I don't want them to just be another way to give extra attention to old pokemon, they already get tons of extra attention through every gimmick they throw out there, I don't need the literal new pokemon to actually just be old pokemon again if they will be nothing more than boring reskins.

[@compatriot852]

Legends felt like a unique twist on regional forms. It actually makes sense considering how much species can change/die out over centuries of human development

[@Ultimate23Dragon]

*Here's my Controversial Take:* Leon is the reason Charizard went from 'meh' somewhat favorite-ish to one of the most hated Pokemon today. If Leon's signature/ace Pokemon was literally anything else, Charizard wouldn't be as universally hated as it is today.

[@RohanJoshi910]

Eh the hate would still be fairly prevalent imo, the fact that Charizard got two mega evolutions and gmax form b4 the other Kanto starters already pissed off a lot of fans

[@MrTeamFoolish]

Definitely a controversial take because Charizard pandering has been happening way before Gen 8, and even outside the VG. The TCG is loaded with a bunch of Charizards. Even that community gets tired of it.

[@FrostGlader]

@@MrTeamFoolish The SwSh sets of the TCG have an over abundance of Charizard, more so than normal. Sure, in older sets we had a few Charizards, but they’ve absolutely put far more than is needed in recent sets. The “BDSP” set, Astral Radiance, had Charizard, for example. No reason, it’s just there.

[@jayyzee5708]

Charizard is hated regardless for being too popular among the community and the creators alike

[@oscarheller6310]

I do think it's stupid that the champions ace isn't from their home region.

[@irvingodinez5782]

Gen 5 felt like the start of a more mature take on pokemon plot and characters. While I'm not saying it wasn't meant for kids, as a teenager playing those games, I truly felt Nintendo and pokemon were moving towards progressing slightly more mature in terms of game cycles. But when gen 5 sold very little units, they went back to square one kids games in X and Y and took all the maturity pokemon earned last gen and threw it out the window.

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

Bruh this is not even controversial opinion this is legit fact.

[@waliedsalam2487]

Gen 5 has always been my favorite

[@emc448]

This is just a fact lol

[@bi-indigenous-baker5865]

Yeah, Black2 and White are my favourite Pokemon games. It felt like I was an actual person in an actual world because the vast majority of characters were three dimensional and had their own motivations. Unfortunately Game freak blamed the better story for being why it didn’t sell well and not the fact that people just weren’t interested in the new Pokemon themselves (which also sucks because I love a lot of the Unova Pokemon). Luckily they seem to be realising that we want a good story too since they went back to more mature with Legends Arceus. Hopefully it’s a sign of things to come!

[@waliedsalam2487]

@@bi-indigenous-baker5865 I never understood why gen 5 was so disliked when it was first conceived..

[@trle964]

i hate that gen 8 didnt focus on zacian and zamazenta as the other games have on their box legendaries. it makes them feel forgettable which isnt what you want your main focus in a game to be.

[@tinystar3010]

I hadn't really thought about that but that's true. Other than Sonia going over the lore, their capture and a couple cutscenes, there's little involving them. It was more about Eternitus it seems.

[@trle964]

@@tinystar3010 yea, it sucks 😢

[@dr.trousers6101]

but that probably would've called for more critiicism if it was vice versa. " why can't they do something different for once"

[@trle964]

@@dr.trousers6101 nah. the story already got major criticism for its lack of legendaries and it only focused on dynamax. its pokemon, people dont expect game freak to change the formula.

[@dr.trousers6101]

@@trle964 people were getting pretty bored of the same stuff 6 years ago. then sun and moon came out. I'm just saying that a lot of fans are old and get tired of it. Sure they don't have to stick around. it took me about a year to finish SWSH, the story was just boring and coming from playing BOTW to SWSH which tried to have an open area really made the game feel like ass. anyway, sorry my train of thought stops here

[@appleducky5234]

The Kalos legendaries were nothing more than power sources for the ultimate weapon. They had no build up and the themes/lore of life and death were only undertones to the main plot more focused on power and beauty.

[@quaxolotl6509]

At least their designes and origins Are cool

[@powerequinox]

My controversial opinion: BW making players play with completely new Pokémon for the entire game and not having their old reliable mons available until the post game was amazing and they should do this as standard for the Pokémon games moving forward. P.S I do like the games the way they are rn, just think this would make it more interesting and bring back the excitement of using new Pokémon

[@GoinGreninja]

Yep. Unova was the reason I still only use new Pokémon/Pokémon who will evolve into a new evolution/regional form every new gen. I love playing like this, not relying on the old ones too much because you know they're great, they're powerful but how're the new ones? Are they good? Are they useful? That's something you've to find for yourself.

[@GumCow]

@@GoinGreninja I do the same, but I think restricting that play option is horrible

[@GoinGreninja]

@@GumCow I can agree with that. While I do this intentionally to have fun, I don't want it to be forced upon on people who were never interested in it. So there should be a decent selection of old Pokémon alongside the new Pokémon, I feel.

[@protean007]

I wouldn't implement that the entire game, as people might get upset if they have to use mons in later gens that they hate rather than those they love. After all, Pokemon is about having fun with your pokemon, so not liking the ones you have to use would cause discourse in the community.

[@zirc_]

if you play through a pokémon game for the first time and use pkmn from previous games you’re simply playing it wrong

[@Serperiority_]

Here's a really controversial one: Pokemon games are fun! Not to pretend the series is without its flaws- clearly it isn't. But you'd honestly think that there's never been a single good pokemon game in history the way some people go on...

[@howlbird07]

I had so much fun with Arceus, and all people could do before the game came out was complain about it - i ignored them and enjoyed the game anyways

[@Sp3ctralI]

EXACTLY! Every single game and spinoff game has its charm that makes it fun in its own way, the only reason people think one is garbage, is because it’s not their cup of tea, but that doesn’t make the game objectively bad, that’s just a personal opinion, that people try to make into an objective fact.

[@lovelyprincesssarah]

Why is this a controversial hot take!!!

[@velvetvessel]

whyyyyyyyyyy is this controversial it's just true

[@clemente3966]

Pokémon conquest . . . Nevermind, I remembered that it wasn't available in Europe so people here could complain. (not that emulators can't do the trick, it just would have been nice to be able to play it legally)

[@pea.shooter]

Mega evolution was a complete waste I liked mega evolution but it's original purpose was to give bad pokemon a fighting chance. But after a while they just started giving it to already really good pokemon (looking at you rayquaza). It just lost its original purpose + it was only available on select pokemon. One of the things I liked about z moves was that every pokemon could use them

[@melvondrewhite2674]

Mega Rayquaza Was Fan Service Bullshit , That Whole Post Game Was Annoying . & Zinnia Was The Worst Like Let Me Beat You Already So I Can Go And Stop Stealing Peoples Key Stones ! 😑

[@JulianCaesaro]

Honestly I think this too

[@Rajd_is]

No Mega Evo NEVER was meant to be given to bad pokemon It was supposed to refresh old liked pokemons, like Lucario, Charizard And Rayquaza doesn't actually count as mega, if we don't count primals as well I can bet, that if there would be Green Orb, this would be used to change Rayquaza into Primal Rayquaza, but there's not, so it got replaced by mega stone Btw. Making weak pokemon more useful by giving any gimmick makes no sense, because Pokemon Company makes a lot of pokemons and they said that only couple of them is made to be used, when others should be just weak, funny or annoying

[@IceBlueLugia]

“Mega Evolution’s original purpose was to give bad Pokemon a fighting chance” Source? The first mega revealed was literally Mega Mewtwo Y. Nowhere has Game Freak or anyone else ever stated or even implied Mega Evolution was meant to give bad Pokémon a fighting chance. People just saw Beedrill and Lopunny in ORAS and assumed that was the intention for all Megas for some reason

[@Rajd_is]

@@IceBlueLugia agree, it's purpose was to just refresh strong old pokemon

[@plushypanda3322]

It would be cool if each pokemon had a group of different idle animations, and every battle, the game randomly chooses one of the idle animations to use for that pokemon. For example, one battle has your Skarmory flying by flapping its wings. Then, the next battle, Skarmory is on its feet standing. I think having multiple idle animations that randomly are chosen for each pokemon would add a lot of variety visually (especially when considering that the same would apply to your opponents pokemon).

[@poopikins]

My take. It's terribly unbalanced. 1 Pokemon can steamroll an entire team if they get their buffs. I think buffs & debuffs should be limited to a certain number of turns. Too many duels are decided by 1 or 2 moves; Pokemon just faint far too quickly, moves do too much damage.

[@Mosesmw]

1. Legends arceus battle system fixed the buffs issue, if that change were to carry over going forward that would fix it. 2. If moves dealt less damage battles would take longer, not necessarily a bad thing but it would be a very controversial change, not everyone would like it and we know from experience controversies like that get blown way out of proportion.

[@Minohorse]

You want it to be like SMT, where buff/debuffs only last for 3 turns?

[@goldmemberpb]

That's kinda what legends did. They even made buffs and debuffs just a single tier, not 6. If you let it, then sweeps will happen. In game sweeps are a given since Ai don't really have ways to counter it. There are so many variable present that affects damage. I don't think moves are the problem. it is mostly how they are used. You can buff up defense and Hp but then the game will take too long with a turn based system.

[@aoifeblack_4153]

not controversial

[@V-Jes]

@@Minohorse you mean like Persona, as in most of the older SMT games buffs are permanent unless someone uses a spell/item that removes buffs.

[@jamesperrott1]

Thank you for having sanity in this community man is it rare

[@chompyferaligatr3753]

My Hot take: Sun and Moon/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon was a good game. It expands on the multiverse thing that the Pokémon had in its undertones. It opened up a lot of door and I think it helped open the past and future idea for Scarlet and Violet

[@Lokear]

This is exactly my take on gen 7 as well. They really broke down a lot of things about the formula; for example, throwing out tile-based maps so they could have more complicated layouts.

[@Kaitachimaru]

to me, most flying types being on the ground looks way better, them flying in place 24/7 looks really derpy to me, make em fly when they follow you in the overworld and in some attack animations tho

[@snakey1315]

What is your opinion on upsidedown pineapple cake

[@xedusk]

And give them a dodging animation for when ground types moves miss, since they’re immune to them. The Pokémon just jumps and flaps its wings, or whatever.

[@Kaitachimaru]

this, same for pokemon with levitate, they have the same animation as pokemon that do get hit atm, but then take no damage... (same if a move just misses, dont make the pokemon move as if it got hit then)

[@Kaitachimaru]

I had never heard of upside down pineapple cake before, it looks aight, I don't like cherries though

[@oscarvanzelm7768]

The Kalos starters are my favourite trio. I feel like many pokémon fans don't appreciate how they're based on the classical RPG classes: Warrior (Chesnaught), Wizard (Delphox), & Rogue (Greninja)

[@DaSheepKiller]

7:05 I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Charizard hate is more widespread than Charizard itself.

[@GoinGreninja]

Agreed. The only reason it gets hate is because Gamefreak loves them to death it seems. Blame them, not this guy just because he's marketable. Would you insult Pikachu for doing what he does as a mascot?

[@trle964]

its not that unique of a pokemon. it doesnt have the worst design or the best either. its boring.

[@DaSheepKiller]

@@trle964 still better than most modern starters in my opinion

[@DopeioThePhoneBoi]

@@trle964 Like Ttar says, its boring NOW, because it's 25 years old. Back in the day it was the coolest thing ever. A literal fire dragon. There's a reason it was the most chosen starter for Gen 1.

[@aoifeblack_4153]

@@DaSheepKiller exactly. atleast it feels like an animal you'd find in the wild instead of some stupid cat - wrestler.

[@3X0T1CTheSphealEnjoyer]

Regional forms were the best concepts the Pokémon company composed. For example, compare the brown bear to the black bear. The turtles on land versus sea turtles. The arctic fox and the red fox. Vulpix vs Alolan Vulpix. Regional Variants have done a great job teaching children that there are the same animals that have evolved to work well in differing climates

[@johnax4124]

Pokemon does need to be "harder", but they dont need to fangame kick your ass to do it. The reason the games feel easy is the perception of fariness. Barely any trainers besides you have a full team of 6, in gen 6 like 2 people had megas, in gen 7 all the bosses had Z-moves but no random trainers did, gen 8 you can only dynamax when your opponent can so that's fixed, but like maybe the team's just need to change more, like the more mons you have the more they have, maybe the first like 4 gyms still have less then you like if you bring 6 mons to the third leader they have like 4, but the problem is just every trainer has like a half a team no held items etc, its not that they need to have stealth rocks and shit

[@aoifeblack_4153]

not really controversial

[@koga4242]

Been watching all of your Nuz vids. I’m new to your channel but enjoying the content. Always get excited to see a new upload!

[@4StarLoLo]

Diamond and pearl including remakes are not good and you should just play platinum.

[@sb6196]

Platinum isn't much better to be honest.

[@GoinGreninja]

@@sb6196 At least it's much better than them.

[@DToTheB]

..you think this is controversial? Like 90% of the Pokemon fans I've met agree that bdsp isn't good

[@sb6196]

@@GoinGreninja I wouldn't say much better I think diamond and pearl are only okay and platinum doesn't change that for me.

[@53pichu]

@@sb6196 platinum itself is better than both remakes

[@conriozpin4556]

While my favorite typing, Dark types are frail and deserve more move versatility for Dark moves in general, though special attacks need more emphasis since only three to four moves are actually Special attacks and of those only one can be learned by the average Mon. The rest are signature moves.

[@protean007]

I mean, I don't recall Snarl being a signature move, but whatever, I still agree with what you said, as a fellow Dark type lover myself. There are a solid amount of special dark types but only Dark Pulse and Snarl are usable for those everyday, and Snarl is a generally weak move that only acts as damage on top of lowering the enemies' special attack.

[@RohanJoshi910]

@@protean007 snarl is more useful in doubles bcuz it hits both opponents, so a lot of support mons use it

[@protean007]

@@RohanJoshi910 Yeah but in singles it sucks ass as your opponent (assuming they're a player) can just switch out their mon. I love the move tho, wish it had 60 or 65 base power.

[@melvondrewhite2674]

@@protean007 You Forgot Crunch , Which Is The Best Dark Type Move !

[@protean007]

@@melvondrewhite2674 Not special tho, which is what we're talkin about

[@TEAMKYR]

seeing them in different poses is part of what makes legends arceus so special. pokemon have poses to ready for an attack, they pose in the wild, they have different poses when you throw them out of their pokeball.

[@TEAMKYR]

Also pokemon snap. Literally built around poses and interactions

[@MrDipz158]

Like in Silver and Gold how amazing would it be if you could travel to different regions in the post game/second half. Imagine post game of BDSP going to the Hoenn region or back again to Kanto and seeing it develop over time making it seem that each game is in a different time period and all the big events happen in a certain order.

[@averageidiot6645]

Gonna expand on the gen 2 being bad idea. Yes, it is. After being morty you could go straight to Pryce. You can do Pryce, Jasmine and Chuck in any order you want to. But they did a terrible job of balancing it. In my original playthrough, I evolved my quilava right after beating pryce. EDIT: Pryce was the last of the three I took on. "Just grind then!" Some people may say. Sure, I would if the wild encounters weren't 10 levels below me. The whole rematch mechanic is also a terrible way to train because of the number limit (Fixed in HgSs) and that it's entirely based on luck if the person challenges you or not. Also, all of the cooler gen 2 pokemon you can't even get until post-game. You want houndoom on your team? Beat Lance's cheat dragonites and catch an underleved houndour. Want a Tyranitar? Beat the kanto gym leaders and defeat lance again! It's a gen 2 mon, let me catch them in Johto ffs. Pretty sure HgSs safari zone fixes this problem, but it shouldn't have been a problem to begin with. Don't even get me started on how freaking annoying grinding for Red is. His pokemon are about 20 levels higher than anything you'll find there, and the wild encounters there are the highest level wild pokemon in the game, so have fun spending 5 hours to get 6 levels on anything. Bag limit was also annoying, but that was also fixed in the remakes. While HgSs fixed a ton of the issues I have with Gen 2, the balancing is still really wack. I have plenty of nostalgia for gen 2, but that does not excuse it's many shortcomings.

[@howlbird07]

this is the best comment

[@averageidiot6645]

@@howlbird07 let's not forget that most of the gen 2 pokemon that are relevant nowadays are only relevant because they got evolutions or good abilities. Even more appalling is that the entire Cyndaquil line LITERALLY HAS THE SAME BST AS THE CHARMANDER LINE! THE EXACT! SAME! STATS!

[@bunyo514]

I just recently finished my playthrough of all of the games that I hadn't done, which included playing the original gen 2 games, and I agree with almost every point you bring up. The only one I have a personal disagreement with is the grinding for Red. My team spread was whack with a level 40-something Sudowoodo to my highest which was like a level 60-70 something (it's been awhile). After a lot of grinding, I had decided to just do grinding by straight-up fighting Red. It was a challenging battle, but I just barely managed to pull through by getting off a Dynamic Punch from the Sudowoodo to take out Snorlax before I could get my Feraligatr to start building up to sweep everything else. It personally really nice to have executed successful strategy to pull through against Red with a severely underleveled team, and it wouldn't have been the same if I was just able to grind easily. All that said, your view isn't wrong. For players who do want to grind, they should be able to without sinking hours fighting Ursarings and what-not. And I also recall feeling frustrated training post-blackthorn because of the low levels. I just wanted to share my experience with it.

[@jamesperrott1]

The number 1 thing I want from Pokémon is to simply buff the literal hundreds of utter garbage Pokémon for ranked, there’s too many that are straight up unusable and fully outclassed And they seriously need to nerf the broken ones to make people actually use different Pokémon

[@tivednagol9127]

Buffing bad Pokemon is the thing to do for them, not giving them regional forms.

[@jamesperrott1]

@@tivednagol9127 literally, giving a bad pokenon a regional form does nothing, the original one gets left behind still useless, and the new one is just about as useless Look at raticate

[@juulsoda1935]

Gen 6 style is unmatched its the pure simple pokemon vibe, like an 3d gen 1 with megas, But if you didn't play back in the day with wifi and trading you're missing out. Also I see the pokemon gens like an 5 game loop, like Gen 1 and 6 have the same role, same idea with gen 2 and 7 and now were on gen 4 and 9 both look to improve the graphics and adding to the gameplay gen 4 physical special split and the open world idea of gen 9

[@vampante]

my hot take: galarian yamask has an actually unique and original evolutionary method, we need more evos that arent just using an item on a pokemon or levelling it up

[@quaxolotl6509]

People dont hate the concept, they hate how annoying it is to actually do.

[@vampante]

@@quaxolotl6509 i found it fun

[@lucarax8468]

BW and BW2 were the best in the story department and that X and Y brought together a lot of people but I wish that the rest games need what BW and X and Y had.

[@ohnaww]

Yeah, if Game Freak approached Pokemon like a game as a service (buffs and nerfs for Pokemon each mainline game, as new ones are introduced), we'd have a different conversation about balance. Regional variants is taking the long way about it. Dexit made sense for competitive, but they still forgot the buffs and nerfs for underpowered mons they kept around.

[@grantdaily9662]

to be fair, they do give Stat buffs and debuffs. most recent example I can think of is the taking a 20 base stat total sending it's two 150 base stats to 140. a buff they gave last Gen was Dodrio going from 100 base speed to 110 base speed. I just wish they'd give more in-depth move pool

[@PKshockwave]

"He can fight Freiza!" I'm dead 💀🤣

[@compatriot852]

I actually agree a lot with the tweet in the thumbnail. Regional forms were interesting back then as it was something new and actually made sense with the region. Alola was based on Hawaii. Isolated islands in general usually greatly affect evolution. Same goes for Ancient Sinnoh as a lot of species used to exist before going extinct. They honestly can't keep this feature for much longer given most places don't fit these specificities

[@m1sterch3f7]

You convinced me with that. Yeah, when they were first made they made sense, like, they become more Hawaii theme. I'm gen 8 they just were different with no theme. I think legends Arceus did this right though

[@gabeskai]

Here's my contraversial take. The community is partially to blame for USUM and SWSH coming out the way they did. All the promotional material was pitching that we would be exploring an alternate timeline and implying huge differences in the story. Teasing Lillie being more active, teasing Hau being a much more serious trainer, etc. But the communtiy ignored all that and would not stop whining for the Switch game because they were actively upset that a fake leak that was never confirmed wasn't real (a leak that made NO sense to be anywhere close to real). I suspect they cut development for usum short in favor of rushing the switch game out the door and giving us the worst of both. Playing through USUM felt so much like they were working on something really ambitious.... and then just stopped. Like, not even a "we gotta wrap things up early" but just an abrupt no warning stop. Surely I wasn't the only one who felt there were changes and/or bits of story that were straight up missing right? Am I crazy?

[@hannahfbr]

I like regional forms because with the amount of pokemon left of the spotlight it gives them a second chance - like cursola and vulpix

[@migo1559]

While I don't agree with the dexit, I think having a format that limits online battles to about 300 pokemon would make for some refreshing new metas. It'd be as simple as changing the pool of pokemon every 3 or 6 months until new games come out.

[@DJTileTurnip]

2:49 *Stares are Mega Flygon*

[@dustiiyork3907]

My biggest gripe with 3d Pokemon is the loss of personality in the battles with them , but we also gained a lot of personality with certain pokemon through Pokemon amie when x and y came out. There's fair trade offs for before and after. scarlet and violet look Soo hype can't wait for them to come out

[@touku3631]

The only I guess unpopular take is, XY was the last time Gamefreak had to try hard with a game, it did not do too well in the long run which led to them not trying as hard

[@UltraBall23]

That’s just when Masuda stopped being in charge.

[@patrash4343]

omg those mega oras leaks are so nostalgic… i cant believe how much time has passed since each pokemon game yet i still feel the same each time a new one comes out

[@awesomeperson5150]

6:53 Ribombee is a good set up tho :( 🐝

[@carkol3227]

Gen 8's biggest problem isn't as obvious as it seems. It's biggest problem is how stream lined it is. You are constantly holding forward and rarley feel like you are truly exploring galar, until the dlc. The reason the game feels so easy is also cause you never once struggled to think of where to go or found a hidden area or route or completed a side quest that felt super rewarding. Had they made the routes more interconnected and made it so that the galarian forms and dynamax holes were rare to find and could be found through side quests instead of just a low encounter rate on a route it would have felt much more rewarding. Also the difficulty, the trainers needed to be level boosted, have stronger moves, especially considering how easy it was to obtain high level or rare pokemon in the wild area. The thing I would have liked to see most is the gym leaders dynamaxing early on in the battle similiar to how often in vgc battles players dynamax turn 1-4. Because you would always save your dynamax for their last pokemon knowing thats when the gym leader would dynamax all sense of strategy is destroyed. Imagine if milo had just lead with his eldegoss dynamaxed turn 1 and killed like 3 of your pokemon in the first 3 turns, how cool would that be. I want my team to get wiped sometimes more like the ultra necrozma fight.

[@henrymalin6651]

This. I agree with this so much. Good route design is so important for a pokemon game and I always love exploring the routes

[@Chronoflation]

Dexit actually did help with the power level of competitive Pokemon. I mean, Incineroar took over the game when he was reintroduced and single handedly made my Sir'Fetched team go from niche but still able to tangle with Meta to zero viability. Regieleki and grassy glide Rillaboom were even worse though. When the power level average gets too high, only top level power levels can compete, it feels like. I had masterball tier teams that couldn't get into Ultraball by with each DLC release. That said, Gamefreak could just make limited dex metas, though I prefer they just put a battle simulator into Pokemon Home, so 100% of national dex can still battle through PH.

[@aerialdive]

i think ORAS and SUMO had really unique and interesting ways of shiny farming and legendary hunting. ORAS' rendition on flying, and SUMO's interdimensional travel, were so daunting / overwhelming but FUN, i ENJOYED trying to get all of the legendary pokemon available in both the games. SUMO's chain system was such a fun idea and i'm kind of sad it never really was used outside of that.

[@_DrPotato]

I agree with the nat dex being bad for competitive. If we look at early swsh pre dlc, there were so many cool and unique strategies that could work because they weren’t competing against some of the strongest legendaries of all time, they were competing against other, weaker strategies. As soon as DLC came out, people then start having to run legendaries because they instantly lose to people who are using full teams of legendaries. Even though you have more options, you have less options because of opportunity cost.

[@kkdraws9052]

Unpopular Opinion: X and Y had the potential to be some of the best games in the series if they actually had the time to finish the game. I mean if you look up all the missing content there was a lot more potential. I also loved the art style, skates, customization, and setting of the game. It was also the first 3d game so they actually had to make the models for all the pokemon so I know X and Y weren't a result of a lazy team it was the result of them trying to push another game out too fast.

[@Edujs23]

The National Dex cut actually did make teams more diverse but right now Monsters like regieleki and landorus make a vast majority of mons unusable or outclassed, adding more pokémon wouldnt change that

[@ovenfullofbread6512]

Facts. Having all the Pokémon won’t make competitive more diverse, to do that they would need to balance or remove Pokémon that are to strong

[@dharmamuthalagappan5157]

Great video as always. Where’s the outro from? Who made it?

[@Billythekid73192]

at 3:20 I believe wolfie made a video explaining why and how. In the beginning of sw/sh the competitive scene was more diverse until they added the more op pokemon in dlc later.

[@CraftingMenace]

I've heard some serious bad takes before. An honorable mention goes to someone who said all legendaries should gain a "legendary" type, which could be weak to things such as normal and bug type to "balance them." But even that doesn't compare to the two objectively worst take I've ever seen from actual people: One: That certain pokemon need to be "retired." That Game Freak should come out, look at about, I think the guy said a quarter of the current pokemon, and come out and expressly say "These pokemon will never be in another pokemon game ever again." He said it would be a way to cut down on the pokemon no one likes (which is flawed logic in general, because every pokemon is at least one persons favorite,) and make future games easier. He wasn't saying Dexit in the way of make it where each game only has 400 ish pokemon no, he was saying to axe them from the series as a whole. Forever. Two: That legendaries should be so difficult to obtain, they should be locked behind a 100+ hour quest line, and you should only be able to obtain 2-3 per game file, even if the game had as many legendaries as black and white. The guy cited a few reasons, namely two: that nowindays 5 year olds can just wonder trade and get shiny legendaries and they mean nothing (which is a problem that making them rarer would not solve because they're all hacked in anyway) and that it would make them basically bragging rights, being able to say "oh i went through everything and finally got mewtwo" (which is something that would still not exist due to the hacking issue, and in fact turn more people to hacking.) I found these both in a thread a long time ago and they both stuck to me, and constantly remind me "Well at least I'm not that guy."

[@USSFFRU]

Ah yes, make legendaries more difficult to get so that it's rarer and ignore the fact people hack them in anyway. This man should definitely make pokemon games

[@omegaalpha0144]

On the competitive note, that kind of happens anyway. Having every Pokémon available will make every Gen have the exact same teams across years

[@RGC_animation]

Yeah but the battles can still vary a lot with the same exact Pokemon.

[@omegaalpha0144]

@@RGC_animation Even so

[@justinpenascosa]

I enjoy these chill videos with TTar. I hope you do moee of these. More Reddit videos, memes, anything that's layed-back and enjoyable to binge watch.

[@galacticadminsarah]

Temporary evolution is “anti Pokémon “ Castform: bro I’m right here. That’s my gimmick

[@minifroXY21]

I love watching TTar poke holes in peoples opinions in a sarcastic light hearted way. GGs TTar 🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@kingjo824]

As someone who started with red and blue in the late 90's I can also agree (well probably cuz I was a kid) that the game had some creepy vibe to it, it kinda goes back to the controversy about the lavender town original audio causing kids to commit suicide (or something like that I don't know the whole story) something about red and blue and the music and the vibe playing it as a kid just gave off a really off put setting. Then again thats just some people's perspective and opinion on it, everyone is different But yes the anime was way more kid friendly and goofy lol

[@a_bear]

Yes I completely agree with you. When I first played through gen 1 it also gave me the weird creepy feeling. Despite seeming very cheery on the outside.

[@aoifeblack_4153]

I think it's because of the lack of graphics. pokemon origins does a good job showing that gen 1 does have a creepy undertone, but as a game in its entirety is wholesome. I mean, the kanto anime also has pretty creepy moments/undertones with sabrina's episodes for example.

[@_Yuputka_]

2 notes about the competitive one. 1: having the pokedex cut reduces the power creep which overall makes a larger perentage of the available pokemon potentially viable, although the crown tundra specifically undid that. 2: having a cut pokemon can remove some of the best or most notable pokemon of the previous generation and removing them from the competitive scene will give a different feel to the competitive scene between generations

[@bewearstar9462]

0:53 Pidgeot,swellow,skymoary and tropuis all look sick on land but now they are stuck flying with little movement

[@that-guy-pearce]

Man Gen 6 could have been so cool if we just got another Kalos game after X and Y. They're just so incomplete it hurts.

[@Cyrosin]

National dex is bad due to the exact thing you said, if the national dex is in use you'd want to take less risk and use the mons that have the most coverage overall. So the teams would be even more similar, Wolfy has a full video going over this.

[@CaptainObliviousV]

To back you up on that: No matter the Dex size (National or not), if Regieleki is available, you’re going to see it literally everywhere.

[@GoinGreninja]

@@CaptainObliviousV Yeeeep. That thing is a goddamn menace in VGC and is also a bitch in Smogon as well. Remove its access on Electroweb and this thing would be FAR less annoying.

[@mouthshovel]

I think the lack of national dex sucks but it had to happen at some point, and I think we'll get used to it in later gens because we'll see that those pokemon are going to come back in a later generation, so it's not like they're being cut out forever.

[@surfaceplague5120]

Honestly, I wish Leon ended up being shadier in gen 8. I felt like I could see rose being evil early on but since Leon kept us away from all the action I really thought he’d be a little but more corrupt.

[@ko-chanTHEBULLY]

You just have trust issues my guy. Not every hero has to turn out to be evil to make a story "good". It added a lot, for the man Leon looked up to, and worked with and was so close to, to be a bad guy and create that conflict. If Leon was evil too, I'd argue that would make the story that much worse. And no, Hop's brother being evil isn't the same, but I hope I shouldn't have to say that

[@averageidiot6645]

@@ko-chanTHEBULLY But they never explored that side of their relationship. The way it is it just seems really flat and uninspired. Hop and Leon are brothers, meaning they have a pre-established relationship, and the player sees throughout the game just how much Hop looks up to Leon and doesn't want to let him down. The only difference between these arguments is your point that Leon worked with Rose, but this holds no emotional weight behind it. They just work together, nothing more.

[@surfaceplague5120]

I didn’t really mean that I wanted him to be the “big bad” of the game. I mean more like he got caught up in something shady with Rose, and which adds some more tension to resolve with him and Hop. I don’t want him to really be evil lol.

[@sammydray5919]

Imagine wanting depth from a Pokemon game 😑 Obviously the series has no need for such silly thing like that 🙄

[@melvondrewhite2674]

@@averageidiot6645 That’s Game Freaks Fault For Doing That Tho , The Game Was Short & Rushed & That’s What Made It Bad . What Part Don’t You Get ?

[@jackpendragon6080]

Ive always thought one way to diversify the models is have different animations/models for genders. (I.E. female: charizard flying animation male: charizard sitting animation). Another way is to have nature effect the model.

[@appleducky5234]

Actually, this makes a lot of sense, gender personalities and lifestyles can be very different in certain species.

[@Beginnerss]

Personally speaking, Nature shouldn’t change anything visually. It would affect PvP unless GF forces neutral styles in PvP. However if they were to do a visual change depending on the nature of the Pokémon id rather have different animations.

[@BasedMamaJames617]

I support this.

[@azetka4029]

iirc, there already was a feature similar to that in gen IV I believe If you sent out a mon with +speed nature, it's entry animation would play out slightly faster from mons with neutral/-speed nature. Sure it's miniscule detail, but it's very interesting they implemented it whatsoever.

[@jackpendragon6080]

@@azetka4029 I did not know that! That makes me want it more.

[@windmill9998]

i really like the art style of Sword and Shield. as an artist and character designer myself (as well as a long-tim Pokémon fan), there's a lot of things i like with these games. the vibrant colors, the lighting, the shading, the atmosphere, the character designs (except Leon, he's ugly (quite hot, yes, but designwise, UGLY)), and the Pokémon - well, _most_ of them. Greedent is gross. literally the only visual problem with SwSh is terrain really seen from far away (which isn't really a problem, except for a few places like the view from the bridge on Route 5). i seriously don't get why people are complaining THIS MUCH. sure, the story kinda sucks, but that isnt even the focus of the game. the things it focuses on, i think it does great. and either way, nothing's perfect, NO MATTER how good something is there will always be something to complain about, especially for some people. just TRY, PLEASE, to just ENJOY THE GAMES, and STOP COMPLAINING so Froakie-ng much, thanks for coming to my TED talk or somethin i dunno lol

[@PhantomsnowAlexa]

I honestly like the regional forms. They tend to get my interest and I try them. Lilligant is possibly my best example. When it originally came out, I wasn’t really interested to try it on my team. With legends, Lilligant became my favorite and best Pokémon. She saved me so much in the well known post game boss fight.

[@zoa1-99.......]

Jade Cocoon 1 and 2 (Ps1/2) are a bit like pokémon, the village get's attacked and you have to go in the forest, its 3D, has voice acting and you can merge mons. And as for completing a pokedex for plot, the most we get is Legends Arceus' Hisuian Dex for Arceus, and The Galaxy Team.

[@Magical-N]

1. Ash is only in the Masters tournament because of buffs. Final lineup is too predictable and should've kept Flint. 2. Anime should've worked in Flint vs Volkner or at least shown them interacting in an episode if it was gonna bring both back. 3. Goh is over-hated, his catching of Suicune being a weak reason to hate him as the end of the episode implies he lets it roam free.

[@TheGentlemanDuelist]

I don’t know enough about the first two points, but I will say that’s it’s pretty cool that they’re (the writing staff) taking Goh’s quest seriously. He would logically catch legendaries eventually.

[@GumCow]

Flint doesn't deserve masters 8. A team of pretty much one type is lame, plus he was a boring character both in game and anime. Ash earned the masters 8. His pokemon train every day (as stated last episode), plus he's worked hard since Kanto I agree, Goh is over-hated

[@Magical-N]

​@@GumCow His Diamond and Pearl team is not all one type, and only his Infernape has been shown in the anime, which means he could have his Drifblim, Lopunny and Steelix as well. And I don’t think he’s boring. He’s bold enough to wear suspenders on a belt and he calls the player “hotshot” while doing everything he can to cheer up his buddy. Also in the anime he jumped onto the "fleeing" Sunyshore Tower before Volkner did despite Volkner bragging about building it throughout the episode. He gives me ska vibes.

[@coagulatedsalts4711]

Unpopular Opinion: Dynamaxing as it is sucks. Why make one pokémon beefy for a few seconds? Make it beefy for as long as it’s in the game and make it’s strong stats strong and it’s weak stats weak to try to make it more balanced (so like +6 or -3 on stats) but as soon as it gets out of the arena it loses its dynamax.

[@zirc_]

4:06 this is so true, obviously the games are going to change as technology in gaming gets more advanced, if you feel for nostalgic for older games, like me for the 3ds pkmn games that’s fine nobody is forcing you to play newer games, it’s just a part of growing up

[@sweptapostle2473]

@ 8:40, i can agree with this statement to be honest, i don't know why but i couldn't help but get slightly creeped out at times playing r/b/y as a kid. Maybe it was the limited sound bits or the discovery of missingno that did it for me.

[@B0BBYJ4CK]

Honestly, a lot of the comments you read don't make a lot of sense. I feel like they just kinda said it and didn't really think about it. some of my "controversial" opinions: -Charizard X's mega looks ridiculous. It looks a child came up with it. Y's makes more sense and fits Charizard way more -Charizard HAVING 2 megas never made sense to me. why don't the other two Kantos have 'em? (I can understand Metwo getting two, but why Charizard?? why not just leave it as a special thing only MewTwo has?) -I always thought it was odd how the main character we play as ALWAYS had to be a kid. I get it Pokemon was made for kids(when it came out), but it is's kinda crazy how Pokemon knows most of it's fans are adults, yet acts like it's a kids-only franchise. -⚠I think we have way more than enough Pokemon and don't need any more. ⚠

[@KratosAurionPlays]

Honestly I don't disagree with the regional variants thing. I feel like them adding regional variants gives them an excuse to add less pokemon but I don't know lol

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

5:30 As a 28 year old, I can back this take.

[@masturluck]

Not having a National Dex actually leads to more diverse competitive teams whether you want to accept it or not. Cause when you have access to every pokemon in existence everyone is gonna use pretty mucb the same ones. But in swsh you can use certain pokemon who would usually be out classed but are actually usuable cause of limited dex choices.

[@SmashtoonGamer]

3:23 yeah but if the national dex is in the next game then you’re going to see those same Pokémon ruling the meta game plus the few new Pokémon that are viable and that would keep happening game after game

[@sammydray5919]

Why not just make restricted dex metas? Why ruin single player experience for competitive?

[@animepsyclone]

my opinion: gen 6 postgame is one of the best postgames in the series by generation because we have two postgame stories, and in oras, contests, trainer rebattling, and not to mention catching deoxys as a part of the aformentioned postgame story

[@aoifeblack_4153]

nah. it's an annoying quest where you fly back and to the same places and battle the same type of easy trainers. It also completely breaks immersion by being highly unrealistic.

[@Pizaro008]

respect ur opinion, HOWEVER, i disagree. B2W2 is litteraly filled with post game content, for exemple you have a battle frontier tournament like where you battle all the previous gym leaders and champions of recent games, plus that tower where you have to fight difficult trainers in black city and get rewarded with a shiny dratini, not to mention capture all the legendaries, unlock difficulty modes…

[@animepsyclone]

@@Pizaro008 I said “one of” for a reason

[@supersilva2]

I always have thoughts about that Mega-max evolution concept TTar mentioned, except with Lucario not Charizard. How insane would it be if Lucario had Bond phenomenon/battle bond and you could Gigantmax, mega evolve, and Bond form all at once? Lucario was the first ever Pokémon to mega evolve according to lore, so over centuries it develops higher capability of forming bonds with trainers, especially with innate ability to read Auras. In the anime, you could have it that this form can only last for one move, and if you make that move a Z-move it would instantly break the Z-crystal after use.

[@DarkOrigin67]

by the end of 2022, the national Pokédex will have passed 1000 individual Pokémon. it only took them 28 years

[@serabi_]

They need to embrace a different type trio for a set of starters. I'm so tired of Water/Fire/Grass being the main 3 types for starters when there are a few more interesting type combos that can be used to switch up the experience. Imagine a where Fighting, Psychic and Dark were the main 3 for a pokemon game

[@Rot8erConeX]

They tend to use Fighting/Psychic/Dark or Fighting/Dark/Ghost as the secondary types a lot more now. Move them to primary.

[@oscarheller6310]

Fighting psychic dark falls apart when you think more carefully because it doesn't work with the resistances and dark starter would have an advantage because it has an immunity to the psychic starter

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

I don't think there's a single type trio that works better than those 3 tho. The only other trios that have a rock paper scissors relationship have one type that has an immunity to the other Like fighting, psychic, and dark with dark being immune to psychic and then there's ground, rock, flying with flying being immune to ground

[@darky1677]

it's sad that people critisize the pokemon community saying that it's toxic and then have terrible takes

[@Polaraid_the_Guy]

Honestly

[@PG24_YT]

The Pokémon community isn’t toxic really, but they are way too critical towards the mainline games in my opinion. Take SWSH for example. The game looked pretty good, but it only took the trees for people to start bitching about the “graphics being terrible” and it negatively impacted the outcome of the game as a whole. It just seems unfair bro 😭

[@darky1677]

@@PG24_YT outcome of the game wdym? the game is average at best in terms of story,characters,exploration and even pokemon designs imo. the graphics are also average but they're not bad,certainly multiple times better than the embarassment scarlet and violet are. people may sometimes be too harsh on it but it's understandable since as the first home console mainline pokemon game it's very disappointing

[@randomperson6418]

T tar: we need a fighting grass type Pokémon with a sword Verizion: ._.

[@kawaiidere1023]

I don’t mind a small number of towns/cities, but they should be rather large and diverse with plenty to do. I definitely like large numbers of towns/cities like in Unova though

[@Nellamin]

Honestly I prefer 3D way more than 2D sprites, it's just that a majority of pokemon have bland idol animations and some flying pokemon just float

[@GoinGreninja]

Exactly. Some 3D sprites genuinely look good. An obvious example would be Kyurem-Black for example. But because they either just weirdly float or have lame animations, a lot of Pokémon just lose a lot of oomph because of it.

[@Pizaro008]

i disagree, while there are some great 3D models like ludicolo and spinda, alot of the 3D models look soulless compared to the 2d, let me explain… in 2D sprites pokemon do dynamic poses that give them character like krokorok having its arms crossed or ninetales doing a majestic pose, while in 3d pokemon just stand there only moving when taking hits or attacking, this might not be an issue for alot of pokemon fans but i really want my pokemon to be alive in battles to get more attached with them.

[@V-Jes]

@@Pizaro008 you want Pokémon to feel alive yet you want them to act like no living animal would act like and pose around even tho they are supposed to be in a battle? 🤔

[@Pizaro008]

@@V-Jes Lmao are you serious, im talking about pokemon, not animals, also animals in battle DO have dynamic poses like wolves doing they’re poses before attacking or birds pecking on the ground like birds do.

[@V-Jes]

@@Pizaro008 Pokémon are just animals in Pokémon world and like you said they do a pose BEFORE they attack, they don't stay in a pose for no reason as the opponent is about to beat em up...

[@Justice272]

Heres mine: Sword and shield was my favorite Pokémon game. The theme of Pokémon battling being a sport that everyone watches and cheers for their favorite gym leader was what I imagined gym leaders would be like in real life. To me it felt like how a real life journey would play out. Except for the ending 🥴. I honestly was confused when people started hating on it I definitely ask myself if we played the same game. 🤣🤣 Ok now I’m bout to get hated on so bye 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Polaraid_the_Guy]

Hate!

[@zirc_]

sword and shield isn’t my cup of tea for a pokémon game but If someone likes it that’s fine, not everyone is going to have the same favorite game. just not a fan of the gigantimaxing

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

Sword was the first Pokemon game I've finished, so I'm biased, but yeah same lol The gym music and tournament music goes so hard especially when they're down to the last Pokémon and the crowd starts singing with the music Also i genuinely get mad at the rivals for wanting to also become champion and thinking they can beat me so that's another thing And the unique logo designs and just the logos themselves are amazing And ball guy best waifu 😍

[@lexruptor]

I don't play competitive, I shiny hunt and collect, the long term fallout of the natdex cut is that eventually I can't afford to keep going

[@GWTNess]

People saying pokemon had more personality before 3d are so high that I want whatever they're on