The Most Dangerous Production Technique... BE CAREFUL!!!

[@Lucky777videos]

Banger vid, been dying for this video ever since I started producing. I love the comparisons that show the differences in methods and the emphasis on why not to necessarily always redline

[@OfficialAHEE]

Yo Thanks! Btw you’re the winner! Congrats!!! What’s ure email? I’ll send you the Magic Racks Vol 5.

[@KonJonnorMusic]

Dude, I've been using a Saturator AND Izotope Trash on the pre for about a year now. The harmonics of the distortion seem to just fill out the frequency range so much better. Love this .

[@BeatsByTor]

Even when running a 24-bit session, my understanding is that Live still operates with a 32-bit audio engine. That may be why the master bus offers more detailed dynamics when redlining, compared to a plug-in/audio effect.

[@hubpillz]

i think ableton does 64 bit at the faders when mixing signals and keeps it at 32 bit for the signal pre fader

[@bonebrew22]

man, its so funny. I remember YEARS ago, my brother was learning to mix his metal band and he was redlining the snare. and I told him not to do that because it broke the rules, and he was like "but I like the way it sounds better" now years later I'm the one eating my words. Been using clippers for a while now but I had no idea Abletons clipping was so unique like that. Thanks again for a great video!

[@christiantaylor1495]

Why assume it's unique to Live?

[@MrReeTart]

That makes so much sense!! Tracks can sound way punchier when clipping through master. I instinctively turn it down but I'll try to be more intentional next times. Thanks for the tips ❤️

[@danmedici]

Your tutorials have become something i really look forward to watching. By far the most accessible and easy to follow tutorials out right now!

[@rebirth4119]

I believe that the whole "don't clip its bad" statement is pretty outdated and based upon what mixing engineers would say due to how way different music was prior to 2016-2017. I think clipping can also bring back the agressive edge after limiting a song(which could soften transients). Virtual Riot's Pray For Riddim song breakdown actually made note that his kick/clap/snare layer actually makes the master rise into 14 db(no not negative). As a result you can get punchy drums while still having a glued song. It does help to have limiting going on in busses or you will get an inconsistent clipping sound that could destroy your track.

[@haphaz7ard]

In the cry some more vip breakdown he just straight up clips the song for the entire song +19dB. Also skrillex does this technique too for fuji opener

[@travisgodfrey-evans2182]

Not clipping is generally good advice for a LOT of genres, and I think writing off the advice as entirely outdated just because we're all talking about this in an EDM/Dubstep scenario. It's just the kind of thing where Dubstep and EDM, in general, have pretty much been clipping since 2010, even earlier in some examples, but that more old-school engineers would avoid this (even Ahee said, you don't want this on your downtempo tracks), even more so, most old school engineers were also recording engineers, not just mixing engineers like a lot of us here are. We aren't often recording in whole band setups live and riding the vocal, writing down our desk positions for each song, etc. We're just throwing in midi, resampling, lining up to the grid and quantizing, and because of that we can do stuff like bus mastering and mixing as we go because the workflow is so different. Ultimately it's a sound. Having the drum go into 14db and having it that punchy can be achieved without modern Dubstep limiting practices, but that overcompressed, squashed, a sound that you hear on EDM is just what we are used to hearing. I mixed a Dubstep song two different ways, one by gain staging to -18dB and then boosting volume to -0.1dB in the mastering stage, and another by using my own form of bus mastering. The lufs of the -18db gain staging was (if I remember correctly), somewhere around -14-13lufs, and the bus mastered one was -6lufs (it might've been louder). Ultimately though, once bounced and converted to whatever platform you'll listen on (whether it's a streaming platform, CD, vinyl, etc.) the "loudness" drops down to the limitation of that given platform, sometimes I've even noticed that the bus mastered track sounds better when bounced, but awful when uploaded to a streaming platform. These things need to be considered, we need to understand what form of mastering to do depending on what platform we'll be releasing on. For example, a bus-mastered CD is going to absolutely slap (and likely why Skrillex developed his style this way, because he released CDs with From First to Last before streaming became what it is), or perhaps if you're going to DJ and you want the raw file (like you have a USB of your tracks) then that'll sound sick too (again, another reason why Skrillex may have developed this unique style), but on Spotify your -6Lufs gets squashed into a flat, dead track, compared to a gain-staged track that has headroom for the punchiness to truly pierce through once it gets processed by the streaming platform. It's worth thinking about, but I agree that you don't have to worry about clipping as long as you don't hear it. There are a lot of contexts where it takes a seriously good ear to clip your music without realising that you're destroying certain aspects of your song though.

[@rebirth4119]

@@travisgodfrey-evans2182 I wasn't saying that you have to clip your tracks. I was rather dispelling the argument that "clipping = bad". There are also times if you do clip its done rather on individual sounds with a soft/hardclipper. There are often times where pulling a limiter is more beneficial. Its depending on the situation.

[@travisgodfrey-evans2182]

@@rebirth4119 Oh yea I get that you weren't saying that, I was just having conversation

[@andy_the_kitten]

@@travisgodfrey-evans2182 good analysis, I learnt a lot

[@hellkeyproduction]

So basically I just confirmed that I screwed up my next release by doing proper mixing and bus mastering. I got the feeling that after doing the correct processing it was sounding much less "alive and vibing", but since I got rid of the +8dB clipping I told myself it was a worthy sacrifice... shame on me XD Thanks for sharing, at least now I know for next release :)

[@0x44Monad]

If it sounds good, it sounds good!

[@hellkeyproduction]

@@0x44Monad agree. I am now just testing if it is gonna get destroyed when played in clubs where they apply strong volume limits

[@eurometrixproductions7]

Thanks for being apart of newer producers journey to learning dubstep and edm production fundamentals! Appreciate you Ahee!!

[@rebirth4119]

I also recommend if you're clipping the master via your DAW then make sure to take the render and re render it with the volume down to -1db. This is just so your song doesn't clip when you upload it to a streaming site and the digital compression adds artifacts.

[@darkcharmrecords]

Very smart!!

[@Fritztafer]

I just checked Ahee's SC, mans uploaded this track at 0db...so yeah. Many other artists do the same.

[@rebirth4119]

@@TheJohnsofDoes I'm referring to the fact that when you upload its going add additional clipping to the audio which wasn't an intentional choice from your end.

[@rebirth4119]

@@Fritztafer its a choice of the producer to do that but you will have additional clipping distortion to what you chose to do with hardclippers in your daw.

[@andrewbarker66]

Coming from 10 years of house and just getting into bass music, You sir have helped me so much with your videos. Thank you!

[@kurokurokurokuro]

Sounds like it's worth the risk! I appreciate the waveform explanation, I knew some heavy edm clips on purpose but now I know why it's done

[@TheCamSnow]

Dude, thanks for being so willing to help others learn and gain knowledge from your experience! Truly a badass thing to do for the music scene!

[@potatosan4250]

I see what you did there.. Gain knowledge haha

[@SEEKERSOUND]

These videos never cease to amaze me, this man could be a physicist if he wanted

[@OfficialAHEE]

I do have a rant where I try to explain how ufos could work via resonating gravity waves.

[@thewizardtk]

Ahee I gotta say you’re one of the smartest and most underrated tutorial guys on KZbin

[@HowardCharlesUK]

If you ain't redlining, you ain't headlining

[@darkskinwhite]

I like it lol

[@EnzoCapun]

Ive heard this before lmfaoooo and it still gets me everytime 🤣

[@Kai_soze]

its true tho haha

[@Grinzler72]

🤣🤣😅💜

[@sleazylettuce8861]

I know this is a joke but I saw an opening DJ redline the entire 2nd half of their set… I had to hide in the green room my ears couldn’t handle it even with earplugs

[@88bsides]

This was brilliantly done. Easiest way to kind of put a leash on this effect is with resampling. The bit you found about redlining ableton vs limiting was totally new to me! Excellent tutorial.

[@123string4]

I don’t understand this. The clipper is clipping at 0 so you see a flat line (understandably). But rendering at 32bit means it won’t clip even if it’s +12dB. So the redlining isn’t adding any distortion to the RENDERED wave as long as you’re playing back at 32bit. But if you take your +12dB render and play it using a 24bit playback it WILL look like the clipped version. You can easily test this: take your +12dB track and render at 24bit, it’ll look like the clipped version. The distortion you hear when the master is redlining is from your DAC clipping. This means the distortion you hear is dependent on the playback system so it won’t be consistent across systems. The point I’m making is this: your +12dB render isn’t really clipping because it’s rendered at 32bit. There’s nothing special ableton is doing by redlining that can’t be achieved by compressing or saturating the master.

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

Does that apply on the masterchannel? I know that it applies on the individual channels, but I think that the masterchannel has a built in hardclipper!?

[@123string4]

@@SlayerDarkRaver if it was hard clipping the +12dB render would look clipped. The master channel can go over 0dB and not clip because Ableton uses 32bit playback. Rendering at 32bit also means that it’s not clipping when it goes above zero.

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

@@123string4 I'm still not convinced. Do you have a reference for that?

[@123string4]

@@SlayerDarkRaver try it yourself. Export something at +12dB at 32bit then drag the wav back into your DAW. You should be able to turn down the gain of the sample and recover everything above 0. If the master had a built in hard clipper everything above 0 would be lost

[@personsandro]

I’m pretty sure you’re right. Came in to say the same thing. I also suspect that after rendering to the specifications of, say, Spotify, redlining would be an issue; given that Spotify suggests delivering audio under certain levels that are most definitely under 0dBFS.

[@Akathanuge]

AH amazing stuff!! Just took at class with Kll BLL and they showed something similar with us: a way of master where they digital clip into a saturator and thats it. I think its worth adding that your mixdown gotta come correct! nothing will save a rough mixdown.

[@johnnystang41]

where'd you take a kll bill class?

[@2y570]

@@johnnystang41 yeah, I'd like to know too!

[@EQUAL2]

More people need to know this. I've seen, time and time again, especially in the subgenre of hardcore that I make in which drops are nearly always 0db, people try to make headroom for things, that simply don't need that much space. A master is only useful to make a song sound good on different soundsystems, and will not help a shit mixdown.

[@romyn8726]

Me 3 !

[@2y570]

Man I'm so grateful of your free content, I'll consider buying the pack!

[@NVUSROADHOUSE]

In all honesty it’s just easier to tell people don’t clip than explain fletcher munson curves , noise , frequency built up clashing frequencies . When the sequence is done right and the dynamics are sorted u should be pushing the levels because you have control of their dynamic ranges at this point , so as long as you keep the sounds to their pockets in regards to volume /dynamics relationships you can hit it hard . Wish someone had told me that ten years ago although You’d miss out on the educational engineering which makes it impossible to really be all you can be . I figured this out about 6 years ago , I showed my other staff engineers who were much older what I was doing and they looked at me like i was nuts . My take is that exciting harmonics and keeping their mix relationship cohesive will allow for this concept . But like you said you gain staged and I think once a producer gets his /her head around what we’re trying to achieve here they can begin to push the envelope of what’s “acceptable” “if it sounds good it is good “ ❤️

[@Oddly-Engaging]

Ahee thank you so much for all of your quality tutorials when you don’t really need to make them. I appreciate you and I know a lot of other producers do too

[@ccharkin]

such an insanely fire technique man, keep up the little things like this. not a whole lot of intermediate to advanced concepts out there like the ones you post. much love :)

[@riotrob1057]

For me a beginner, your channel is a power school for me. Thank you!

[@bradalex233]

I remember a VR tutorial a while back where he did this with drums to make them really punch, this is def the next level of that concept, amazing vid as usual

[@rileyevans6070]

Your videos have excelled my skills like crazy over the years man… so blessed

[@breaksjunkie100]

Hey, Chris, Purchased your LFO Pack's for Serum last night, Thank's for the work you across the music community.

[@talksintheclouds]

Howdy AHEE! KZbin algorithm payed off for me. Technical analysis of mixing noted. Getting back into producing for myself and been trying to dissect a sound I’ve heard on some mixes & I think one or a few of your racks will help me find my flavor of the sound. Checking gumroad now. Thanks!

[@thiketmusic]

The rules are made to be broken! Thanks for sharing Ahee!

[@NVUSROADHOUSE]

Also everyone should take note that ableton provides spectral processing and with that being said everyone should produce chains which include a sense of space and movement . Not just a pattern and an envelope , not just The dynamics between transients , but don’t think that your brain is going to be able to imagine fx and movement happening while building a sequence , instead program spectral enhancements as you would variations in a drum sequence. Spend time cooking up a full spectrum mix and then judge yourself , but not before giving your project a good sense of movement and dynamics that groove and or compliment the sequence . I left so many projects unfinished because I refused to think about the big picture . You’ll be surprised how good your work will start sounding when you’ve got filters and phasers and chorus and all those tools ready to apply alongside your tracks so that you’re constantly creating more cohesion and quickly finding what frequencies to remove or emphasize according to the needs of the “WHOLE TRACK” and not getting lost tweaking a sound that isn’t sitting right or doesn’t belong . The processing will help you make those choices easier than moving the gain on the eq band a few db or fiddling with your snare and clap levels . Instead spend your time making it a habit to find ways of meeting your spectral desires . I find it much easier to lock my compressions and textures and you won’t end up cutting away too much because it will be very noticeable and the solution becomes easily apparent because you’re hearing difference much easier . The only problem with this loudness strategy is ear fatigue , a lot of people won’t be able to dial those settings before fatiguing , so as i stressed make sure you’re hearing and visually checking results from the processing through printing the processing and looking at it .

[@derekberrill5722]

Right on bro, even now there are plugins that simulate clipping. 21st century art! Great show BTW

[@MattFlanc]

Great info Ahee! Lately I've been exploring the difference between said techniques (limiting, clipping) and I usually prefer the clipping over limiting. I've always found that limiting takes away some of the dynamics and adds this unnatural sound. But in the end it really comes down to personal preference. And just like you said... if it sounds good it is good!

[@samson4272]

Thanks Ahee! Excited to play around with these tips. 🙏🏼

[@julianbaker3903]

This is a very interesting way to think about your master. Mixing needs to be on point for this to work no question. Definitely need to try to do this at least once in my productions to see if I like it.

[@justinbarry4229]

Awesome technique for specific circumstances. Cant wait to see how you use this on tracks in the future!

[@AlexMiller-xh8nt]

Been waiting on this one! Dope stuff Ahee!

[@Ins_Verderben]

A lot of the things I have ended up finding sound better or have given me something cool to use have come from using something the 'wrong' way, never 'limit' (ha) yourself, experimentation can give some wonderful outcomes

[@OfficialAHEE]

Broooooooo the punnn!!!!🤣

[@oddsphere]

Been trying to wrap my head around clipping in the mix for awhile, thank you!

[@UTUBE1102]

Love your videos AhEE! Just bought your older ableton racks yesterday so if I had known (should have watched this sooner) I would have waited for the new guys haha keep up the good work

[@brettshrekington]

Love you Ahee! You’ve been providing so much great content for years! U a real one! 🙏🏼🌟

[@baigmusic]

This was so helpful, thanks so much for this trick! Just tried this stacking technique on Ableton and it really had some great results.

[@rcorrigan240]

Only informative video I've been able to find on this technique, you're a king

[@ra-sol4628]

Always love the obscure perspective man. Thank you :)

[@chrisdigby1]

Danger! Danger! I'm loving this technique! Thanks Ahee!

[@JacobLouis]

Cheers, great job covering that. Reminds me of parallel compression.

[@xWUND3RWAFFL3x]

Interesting idea for sure. I think Ableton has a built in clipper low key so I guess they got a nice algorithm. I remember Virtual Riot automated his limiter off for Pray For Riddim similarly

[@haphaz7ard]

Yeah, he also said in a recent interview with Antares that he doesn't use a limiter for his songs because the distortion is nice. He also did this in the cry some more VIP breakdown on disciple's youtube channel

[@xWUND3RWAFFL3x]

@@haphaz7ard and its wild cause VR is known for having large, clean mixes

[@E-MOTION-MUSIC]

Really love your music first and foremost ! But the knowledge you drop is truly priceless. Great video my friend 🦾

[@nikku1166]

pretty slick man, every interesting outcome. dope tune btw.

[@splinter_mouth]

You've inspired me to create my own ableton racks, they're so fun to make ! Love your videos and keep it up!

[@elishelly119]

Absolutely love all of your tutorials! Super helpful and very in-depth! I love how you make everything easy to understand

[@Franknomoreify]

Dude so on to this. I've found the mix sounds better when the master bounces into the red by 2 db. Makes decisions so much easier than freaking eveytime the master meter flashes red periodically. Thanks bro.

[@exentrix4136]

Yo! Can’t wait for you to announce the winner🙏🏻

[@Stanl3yStu]

I usually make trip hop so I’m very excited to try this out for my bass sound design

[@nobiterz]

Been subscribed forever man! Even got my hoodie a couple a weeks ago! Love the content, keep it up

[@jaffetalfaro6475]

all knowledge aside, that remix you cooked up is HEAT

[@gmoneybioch]

Appreciate all of the insight AHEE. Always pure gems🙏🔥

[@shliggyb]

Great video man! Racks look so dope too! I can only imagine how much work you put into making those. Very impressive

[@brandoncordy7529]

Ahhh now i see why u considered this to be dangerous. Definitely not my go to for my sound personally but still hella cool and excited to try it out when i get home. Thanks again

[@brandoncordy7529]

Im using ableton but would the master have different effects on different DAWs or is it the same all around? Wondering if this could give a dif sound like how analog equipment all have different tones and warmth. Idk just a thought

[@brandoncordy7529]

Haha pecans

[@jobs7932]

awesome video as always bro! keeping my fingers crossed for winning the racks 👀

[@MasonLoyel]

Been watching your videos for the past year since I bought ableton and played my first song live last weekend! Such an inspiration to the scene and a great mentor even just watching your videos! Would love to have some type of competition style video where you give out a sample would be a dope idea IMO! much love!!!

[@WizKidRonneh]

Really appreciate your videos my G. I just about shit my pants when I saw that you were playing at Wakaan Festival this year. See you there.

[@ericredner6058]

mannn...I heard rickyxsan talk about this a bit ago but had forgotten. Legend level techniques

[@mattygalaxy]

Remix is sounding gnarly bro!!

[@faylmusic]

Btw thanks to you I really stepped up my game and your tutorials are definetly one of the best on KZbin!! If not the best

[@prodreams5594]

Dangerous but that's what makes dubstep, dubstep!

[@djaypj3598]

AMAZING! Definitely going to try out some of these techniques.

[@rileyevans6070]

That rack giveaway would be sickkk! Appreciate this tip though!

[@MumblesMedia]

Holy cow this has helped a ton with my current method of working in ableton

[@emurse7497]

thank you Ahee, copped the new magic racks as soon as i got the email

[@gulagwarlord]

Saturate AND clip to maximize this. Saturation fills the spectrum from the bottom, and clipping takes the peaks off the transients. Basically saturate and clip each sound just enough to degrade the signal, then back off. Do the same on the master. Profit.

[@BrokenStitch]

The reason you don't clip is that it will blow out the speakers. A lot of people don't seem to know this these days, but there's a reason you remove the clipping from audio and it's generally speaking because of this problem. It basically heats up the coil in the speakers beyond what most user systems are designed for. That said, there's a lot that goes into this. If your system has "Bass Boost" or settings akin to it, there's likely a good chance you wouldn't need to worry as much. You'll start to smell the problem if it's a problem because I'm not joking about it heating up the coils. This is more of an acoustical engineering and/or electrical engineering talk than what people call "production", as it doesn't really have that much to do with the mix so much as the systems in question. You don't know what the buyer is going to be playing your music on being the point.

[@nOne_Dubz]

Love all your production videos man! Seriously so much knowledge!

[@lukejones3548]

Yo Ahee, I've been using your racks on the regular, and tbh I probably can't wait the week to see if I win a free copy, I'll be copping them racks ASAP!

[@shaverred1030]

Michael Jackson was a massive fan of your work btw. He even used to you use your name in his songs all the time. Ahee Hee!

[@wacckkoo1]

Your vids are always so helpful. Appreciate the tips. Keep them coming.

[@EJxy]

great video! look forward to trying this technique out!

[@broeseph]

Wow this was really interesting to compare the waves! Thanks for this

[@2dy4music]

thank you for sharing this king i literally cannot wait to try this!!

[@attyg8668]

It definitely sounds more distorted..so I think it depends on if that's the sound you want. One concern I would have is that with DJs tending to push gain into the red tracks that are already clipped, it will end up sounding worse when played out by mediocre DJs.

[@xotixbass]

If your tracks are loud, there's no need to boost the trim or eq knobs when djing. I feel like having louder tunes actually makes it less likely that people will redline.

[@christiantaylor1495]

@@xotixbass You don't feel like it's less likely. You *think* it's less likely for good logical reasons. Feelings have nothing to do with it.

[@lecosmique]

Great video on this. You are right, there is little need to fear clipping in Ableton, as long as it is used diligently, whatever that means. Contest or not, you were getting a sub from this vid. Great peak ;-) into how clipping/limiting plays out.

[@OfficialAHEE]

Bruh, the peak of comedy! 🤣thank you for the sub👽🤘

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

I dont think I'll wrap my head around this technique. I'll stick to using the clip-2-zero technique that Baphometrix talks about. Has made my mixes go from Zero to 90 % (not hero yet 🤣), I feel my mixes are still punchy and heavy and dynamic at the same time and hitting ridiculous levels of loudness (-4.5 lufs short term and -6 lufs long term).

[@LennonJCihak]

I’ve been trying to apply Baphy’s method to my tracks but haven’t quite found the sweet spot or hit the crazy LUFS everyone else seems to hit. How’re you getting your tracks like that?

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

@@LennonJCihak Its about controlling the dynamics. Let the kick hit 0 db and mix everything around it. I sidechain alot, not only kick - sidechain but carving out frequencies for each sound using sidechain (like Trackspacer but I use Abletons stock stuff). To control dynamics I use saturation and clipping. I'm applying clipping to almost every sound in my tracks. It doesn't have to be much, remember every db counts. I do it on individual sounds and on every group. Ive found that it's important to try and control the dynamics with saturation before clipping. Don't know which DAW you use, I use ableton so saturator is my king for saturation, but you can definitely use camelcrusher which is free. My go to presets in that is British Clean and more beef. For clipping individual sounds I use GClip, which is also free. On the bigger summing busses like all drums and pre-master I use KClip 3. Don't know if I helped you or confused you more 🤷

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

@@LennonJCihak yeah and I forgot to mention. I make like 2-3 tracks per week, sometimes more. So I got plenty of time to practice this. Practice makes perfect 👌

[@LennonJCihak]

@@SlayerDarkRaver Thanks for that information! That's pretty much what I've been doing, except I haven't been saturating beforehand. I'm clipping every track and then clipping the busses. I'm wondering if I'm just pushing too much bass into everything. That could be eating up all of my dynamic range. I use FL Studio on Mac, so GClip, unfortunately, is a no-go for me. I have StandardCLIP, which I love, but I'd love to grab a copy of KClip since it's a bit more CPU friendly and apparently sounds better, according to Baphometrix.

[@SlayerDarkRaver]

@@LennonJCihak could be that. I set the bass to somewhere around -6 to -4 db. I use a pure sine as sub with NO processing except sidechain. You an try Free Clip from Venn Audio, I haven't used it but heard good things about it. You can also use the waveshaper in FL, or the free waveshaper from MElda productions :)

[@pistolpaul1989]

Your set at stilldream was so good. That track was banging

[@omnifreqz9251]

You’re right, it’s like the clipping part is serving as a semi limiter. But still holding in part of the dynamic

[@dudeononewheel]

You’re amazing! Can’t wait to see you at Wakaan fest 🙏

[@BosqueSound]

Thanks Chris! These new racks look epic!

[@Spinner2498MC]

wonderfully presented. this makes too much sense, simply put you're reiterating filling space within a freq spectrum

[@kennybeeper]

Love this, so many clever ways to apply it once you understand it. Cheers mate!

[@omnifreqz9251]

I was watching some videos on Reason, and there was another guy talking about this as well. But not on this level. This is full on

[@thelionzmusic]

We are already there with the distorted bass music being WAY too clipped! haha - this is visible, if you take basically any bass music into ableton, its always clipping at least +3db, I tried, but couldnt get it to work on my music, may give it another shot!

[@Foxx07]

Haven't got into bass , step music but it's very interesting how this genrea is mixed different ly .. to it's maxed ...

[@ArtemVrabec]

The first time I’ve seen someone actually use clipper to master their tracks was on Subtronics’s twitch stream, where he showed his master chain. He doesn’t actually do it this way, but it was so interesting to see his approach which was basically just the clipper and I think saturator on the master, he even showed a Virtual riot technique with and eq before and after the clipper. The ‘art’ part was supported by Subtronics as well, I mean if it sounds good it does, you should not always listen to prescriptivist views.

[@ItsMe-gv2ug]

Fascinating and well explained. Thank you for your passion.

[@dallaschance8548]

Congrats on the Wakaan lineup!!!!!! Bring all the deep dark wubz

[@johnpasini]

You're videos are absolutely phenomenal, I will always be back for more. If I dont win the racks, I'll probably just have to buy. LOL

[@walkernotte3019]

it's funny the moemnt i heard you talking about this saying aggressive dnb/dubstep reaper is the first name that popped into my mind

[@romyn8726]

You shouldn't actually HAVE to redline into the master though, just get some form of clipper/ limiter that has detail preservation so you can adjust how much dynamics/ clipping you want

[@christiantaylor1495]

I just us fruity soft clipper or a custom wabeshape for hardclipping

[@ezrabrownstein3237]

Thing is though, using a clipper before the master doesn't have the same effect because the clipping element and the other elements won't interact in the same way. When you have a full track and one element clips really hard at the master it has the effect of kind of pushing everything else out of the way. It can be done tastefully to great effect especially on drums.

[@hotzemusic]

​@@ezrabrownstein3237 This is a super popular technique in modern metal to get snares to cut through/crack in the mix. Can probably get similar effect clipping elsewhere in your session and arranging for it, but clipping the master with the snare is a pretty straight forward example. And yes, always should be done tastefully.

[@ezrabrownstein3237]

@@hotzemusic interesting! Metal and EDM seem to share a lot of similar philosophies when it comes to mixing it seems.

[@romyn8726]

@@ezrabrownstein3237 Could you explain the difference in which they're different? How do they clip differently?

[@dnksaus]

I think this is the thing that subtronics does, limiter turns off during drops

[@mthomas1091]

What about “clipping less” on the Clipper plugin? (to achieve the same ‘interactive’ waveform result as the Ableton version). I’ve often thought of recording the analog outputs after slamming an Ableton channel…yes it can sound cool. I’m just wondering (from your waveforms)….is one just clipping more/less because of input/output parameter levels?

[@dreamaera]

I am wondering the same thing

[@Guntherthefool]

That dnb track sounds dope 🔥

[@cliffgarrett11]

I didn’t even know that there were racks past the first 2 sets.. I’m a bad fan 😂 love the LFO files tho 👀