The MOST Exciting MMOs for 2025

[@Redbeardflynn]

Correction: Archeage Chronicles has been delayed again to the first half of 2026

[@Trace153]

For the last decade the only fun thing around MMO’s are the list of MMO’s coming out “soon”.

[@Ashrots]

As a 38 year old I’m honestly thrilled I got to play in a MMO era that was truly legendary. I just don’t get any true excitement when it comes to new aged MMOs - Now that I’m the father of a 10 month old I have very limited time to play MMOs or even games in general but when I do I always go back to the classics. EverQuest, Asheron’s Call, City of Heroes, Dark Age of Camelot. I haven’t found a new MMO that makes me yearn to play it except maybe M&M.

[@shepardgEOD]

@Ashrots check out pantheon, I'm digging it.

[@chrisoneil2805]

@@Ashrots i think ashes will do it for u at launch

[@qqRCF]

@@chrisoneil2805 and when will be that again ?

[@leespiderpod]

I’m 52 so I appreciate anything better than pong

[@triunestudio]

Eternal Tombs, gonna be a big year, keep an eye on it.

[@Redbeardflynn]

Excited to see what you've been cooking

[@killval849]

monsters and memories is really what I'm itching to pull.

[@Tinfoiledhat]

Yep...gonna be the next big one IMO...I like it better than Pantheon. Evercraft might be good too

[@vannthybun2546]

@@Tinfoiledhat I like M&M and Evercraft both more than Pantheon, I think M&M will be the one that could really lock me down for a while, I love the vibe

[@Eden0nEarth]

Try Pantheon folks, it will be a great ride i think

[@ryuno2097]

i'll try when it goes on beta. right now it's still in development.

[@HonestObserver]

Gimme a free weekend please

[@petermoore-m6s]

Dont think open beta will be any time this year

[@vegaskidd555]

Naa tried it. The graphics suck and so does the crafting

[@EB-bl6cc]

it's definitely rough around the edges but does look promising. I'll probably jump in at some point, maybe when a bit more is done. Definitely rooting for them

[@RobinT.H-D.E.S]

You had a good run. Ashes of fakeation videos

[@OldManDan313]

thank you for something to look forward to

[@EB-bl6cc]

Some of these definitely aren't coming out or will even be playable in 2025

[@Redbeardflynn]

That's not the premise of the video.

[@dach829]

Im enjoying pantheon a week in. I enjoy the no map and the slow nature of the game.

[@yahootube90]

Redbeardflynn - Look forward to seeing you in Blue Protocol when it comes to the west!

[@Redbeardflynn]

Too soon! 💀

[@katsiraeh6959]

Optimism and hope is a good place to start the year.

[@andrewglackin3852]

AOC is going to be awesome and will go live, i will be playing it with friends locally and anyone who plays with me will have tons of fun, im great person to play games with.

[@anthonylowe8819]

Mm, pantheon and aion 2 look good we’ll have to see though. Ugh we sure could use a new kid on the block for sure.

[@Redbeardflynn]

There are new developers like fantastic pixel castle and jackalyptic games but they're largely being published by the same heavy handed publishers unfortunately. We'll see.

[@justinhammer3196]

Superhero MMO Ship of Heroes will be entering early access on Steam in 2025, and will probably stay in early access for years tbh. But hey superhero fans have slim pickings.

[@cragland94]

looking forward to the shenmue mmo

[@kuroihagane]

Archeage 2 is not a release for 2025.

[@Redbeardflynn]

Correction pinned.

[@tommyboy10291]

When I hear "always on pvp" that's an automatic no from me. Games like that I usually can't go 10 feet without getting ganged up on by high level players.

[@Redbeardflynn]

It's interesting because I've always thought of it as bring niche but a not insignificant number of games recent or in dev are always on pvp or very pvp reliant.

[@yahootube90]

The vast majority are definitely not in favor of 24/7 PVP. Most people don't want to be on guard every second they are playing. The PVP community is definitely passionate about creating more of them though. I guess with it being a niche segment of games made by people that are making the game for themselves, none of them really hit the mark for the general public.

[@Braven-j7m]

monsters and memories looks interesting but I lost most of my faith in mmos after wildstar, I will always have that little bit of hope though.

[@jjstevenz]

Ashes is still early in development? lol

[@Redbeardflynn]

Yes. It's in alpha 2

[@ryuno2097]

yes. A lot of biomes aren't even finished yet. The game is still in alpha aka in development.

[@EB-bl6cc]

I'd say so. At best midway through development, but that might be generous. We've got at least 3 years to go

[@leespiderpod]

I bet "that guy" lost a lot of followers bitching about Ashes of Creation and the lack of desert 😂

[@xorphz]

Don't worry, Ashes of Creation will be out by 2040. By then they will have sold their alpha to their players dozens of times.

[@kermidiu4390]

When you said "Project L" did you mean "Project LLL"??

[@Redbeardflynn]

Yep

[@kermidiu4390]

@@Redbeardflynn That I would like to learn about too.

[@SillyOne90]

Hey Red. Aion 2 MUST be on this list. Its a AAA game with a majority history and has already been announced for 2025. It is also going to be PVE focused this go round.

[@Redbeardflynn]

Aion 2 is probably the biggest one on this list i should have included but didnt. I covered it in another video and if this was just new mmos it'd be in here. Will be interesting to see what happened with it this year

[@SillyOne90]

@@Redbeardflynn I'm super hopeful. If they bring any version of raiding to the game...while also still having wings and flying, take my money. But EQ3 will always pull me away. Also a True Marvel MMO would also do it.

[@F8isRIPPIN]

Aion 2 will sadly be p2w garbage like the first one. It's NCSoft, abandon hope.

[@joeylogan9887]

Evercraft?

[@Redbeardflynn]

I mention it at the end and why it's not

[@mujinn_]

Wait, back up. Did you say Star Citizen is laying people off? The mmo that raised around 700 million dollars is running out of money? How is that possible? This is sending up many red flags if this is the case. I am hoping I misheard you.

[@Redbeardflynn]

they've laid off over 100 people in 2024 including ending the year by laying off several executives: massivelyop.com/2025/01/07/star-citizen-chief-sustainability-officer-publicly-resigns-from-his-post-at-cig/

[@EB-bl6cc]

Star Citizen hadn't already raised red flags for you years ago?

[@rooster1012]

Meh Star Citizen doom and gloom we hear it every year and yet they raised another 116 million dollars less than 1% off their record from last year, and as far as layoffs those where mostly people that refused to move to other studios as they shut down the LA studio and then there are the people who refused to work in person which is now required as they are pushing for release. And just to be clear they are still hiring as they have over 50 positions open, I would love to see KZbinrs do a little research before posting videos as it really is not that difficult.

[@Redbeardflynn]

Dismissing layoffs because they wouldn't return to office is silly. Return to office mandates since 2020 have been used to make clean layoffs that reduce severance. Hire someone on la and then 3 years later say move to Toronto or you're laid off. They also culled several executive positions to end the year and they just had their chief of strategy resign. 50 open positions is less than half of the layoffs as is. Listen, i totally understand wanting to defend a game you're personally invested in emotionally. And I'm fairly charitable to star citizen but layoffs are *never* a good sign. It shows a failure at the company to adequately prepare and it costs real people their jobs and livelihoods. They're always bad.

[@imaantagonist6322]

I realize games take a lot of people and a long time to make but 70 million over 4 years, or 700 million over 12 years, that's way too much and too long. These companies need to change the way the do business and develop or they need to move on and we the consumers should not be waiting or helping with little to nothing to show.

[@Redbeardflynn]

70 million over 4 years would be an outlier at this point. World.of warcraft adjusted for inflation wasn't even remotely that cheap. Games are profit driven now, like movies. With thst investment had gone up and costs have increased. Call or duty costing 700 million should be a bigger wakeup call than star citizen costing 700 mil to ostensibly make two games tho imo.

[@imaantagonist6322]

@@Redbeardflynn The price isn't so much the issue, it's the price over time. I've got nothing against making a profit. Profit is required. 4 years, 12 years and a game is still in Alpha, sorta, that's way too long knowing many wonderful, great, profitable games that have lasted a long time didn't take anywhere near that long to release.

[@Redbeardflynn]

@imaantagonist6322 12 years is an outlier. Well...it seems like it is. Throne and liberty took 12 years as well. But 4 years is standard. 3-6 years probably for most big games. Mmos are generally more than that.

[@raeshalgoul8505]

👍✌

[@Sowa238]

Game from cipsoft? Game is gonna be dead at the start, they gonna flood it with p2w microtransactions

[@Redbeardflynn]

Tbh that's generally the question of every new game regardless of a games history or not. It's the default in mmos to be p2w

[@F8isRIPPIN]

T_T This genre is so cooked, dude. Half of these are scams that will never release. The other half will be same old p2w garbage.

[@Redbeardflynn]

You're supposed to wait until the end of the year for the pessimism. Atleast wait till february...💀

[@Nanan00]

PVP doesn't belong in MMO's as you can never balance the PVP and PVE.

[@EB-bl6cc]

disagree. I think you balance the PvP and then just let the PvE go wild. The beauty of PvE is.. it doesn't really need to be balanced. Especially if you make the roles unique enough that everyone brings something valuable to the table rather than homogenizing, then they will bring x dps even if y is doing more damage, because of the util

[@yerpyerp]

First! 😀

[@Redbeardflynn]

💜

[@Karasellers-jg3bp]

I didn't know piratesoftware did an interview with asmon......disappointing.

[@EB-bl6cc]

Just because you interview someone doesn't mean you agree with all their stances/endorse everything they've ever done

[@Karasellers-jg3bp]

@@EB-bl6cc Unless you're loudly denouncing them then it kind of means you are at least accepting those stances as not noteworthy. I haven't been able to find Thor saying anything of the sort, I would be happy to be proven wrong.

[@beatenbykarma]

I gave Pantheon a try, but it's just terrible. If this is what they have to show for 10 years of development, there's no chance of fixing everything that's broken, improving the things that suck, and finishing all the features needed to make an actual game, let along a living world MMO to immerse yourself in. Save your money. Another Brad McQuaid wet fart of a project. I knew better than to trust anything that dude led.

[@Redbeardflynn]

Alright 😅 don't go watch my 100 hour review then. I don't think you'll like it.

[@beatenbykarma]

@@Redbeardflynn I did, and it was one of the reasons I bought the game. And you totally undersold all the issues with this game. But I gave you pass on that. Until now. Funny how a lot of steam reviews talk about the insecure, smug, rude community. Perfect example right here. I'll go ahead and unsubscribe from your channel and not watch any more. My comment had nothing to do with you, and you get all butt hurt and defensive.

[@yerpyerp]

MM and Pantheon.. everything else is garbo to me

[@vander1521]

I have never backed AOC. ( Ashes of creation ). Don't really follow it all that much. However people that have followed that game and pledge to it started saying it looks like a scam. For GOOD reason. Steven Sharif from Intrepid Studios literally had a melt down over that. To me that shows a guilty conscience. I only followed Pantheon myself. At one point after many upsets and an insane amount of time waiting. I started feeling like it was a scam. I do NOT owe anybody an apology for that. These people that have backed AOC feel like MANY of us at one point felt about Pantheon. However nobody from VR came out and had a meltdown over it like Steven Sharif did from Intrepid Studios.

[@EB-bl6cc]

Idk, some of the "ashes is a scam" vids (especially Narc's) have been proven to be extremely disingenuous. I don't know if the game is 100% legit, but it appears to at least be 90%. There's content, they are making additions regularly to the game, a lot of youtubers that I trust that have played the alpha say it's legit. Of course it still could end up being a scam after all that. I won't be playing until it's released (or not) so my stance is simply.. if it turns into a good game, great I'll play it. If it's a scam.. oh well, there's 23983247 other things to do with my time

[@yahootube90]

I mean it's a playable game. I wouldn't call it a scam, per se. As to how far along it will progress, who knows? It's more real and legit than most of these in-dev MMOs. The main complaints I've heard are the FOMO alpha pledge sales or whatever. That does seem a little bit scummy.