The Most Memorable MURDER SPREE in Oblivion

[@WizGallorado]

Haven’t watched the whole video yet. But from a lore perspective. This purification was kinda the start to a series of events that lead to the dark brotherhood having considerably less power by the time of skyrim.

[@Mortablunt]

And they didn't learn shit by then, either. Really poor quality control of recruits and a lack of any kind of internal security measures besdies kill anyone sus can really do a number on the ranks.

[@WizGallorado]

@@Mortablunt exactly. I always thought it was strange to do a purification. It would probably cost more resources to replace all the members of the sanctuary then to maybe increase security and investigate a little deeper.

[@nathanielgreco8851]

It was the will of Sithis

[@Mortablunt]

@@WizGallorado The real life Mob isn't much better, and they have a kill to join policy, and even they conduct pretty good investigations on potential recruits. NGL, watching this after going through a mafia movie binge, the sealed order and meet me alone things made me think "Yup, this is the part where I get whacked." Given you are the newest member, it makes a lot more sense to whack you than anyone else. For all they know, you could be recruited or directed by the infiltrator, as turns out happening. Anyway, they would have a rough timeframe of recruitments and when it began. More importantly, they would have to realize they must be Black Hand, as the Wrath of Sithis isn't coming to punish any of these killings. So that makes the investigative process extremely easy, compare members deaths to the purported travels and affairs of various Black Hand members. Even if they deny it, it's a simple logic puzzle and a little more investigating to realize whose story doesn't add up.

[@MLBeaton]

This was our intro to the destructive plot line... But it all starts with a boy under a bed, who kept his mothers head...

[@scoob1551]

It cracks me up that the Khajit becomes friendly with you finally when it comes time to wipe out the sanctuary lol

[@TheBallazan]

Almost as if he knew something?

[@sobdummie7118]

it always made me so sad that he was rude to me all the time,and then finally got nice when i had to kill him.like,couldn't you have been like this before??

[@sebastiaogaiolas9739]

And he sold magic arrows a big loss!

[@bigfudge2031]

That was the point, they wanted to make you feel guilty about it.

[@MusicalLoveAMV]

​@@sobdummie7118Same here, it would've been less heartbreaking if he had been like this before, but he wasn't. He was so nice towards you, he apologized for his behavior, was very supportive of your' new contract and even made funny jokes about it, and considered you as another family member he could "trust". It made me so sad to kill him...

[@justinnyugen7015]

Whodunit was basically a trial run for this, now that I think about it. Worst part is we didn't need to blend in because we were already a part of them.

[@jetroid]

This! This has always been my headcanon; Whodunit was just Lucien testing to see if you were good enough for the purification!!

[@theprofessional155]

The Dark Brotherhood in this game was so much better then Skyrim. All the dialogue choices and unique quests. The Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim felt more like a one man army questline and not an assassin one. Also the bonuses were unique objectives. This game had the better Dark Brotherhood where Skyrim had a better guild then the fighters guild the Companions. I am a big lore guy myself in alot of games and I appreciate the fact that you discuss Oblivion which was one of my favorite childhood games. Everyone just does Skyrim today.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thanks mate, 100% agree. It's a shame people skip Oblivions (imo) superior Dark Brotherhood questline. Hopefully Skyblivion fixes this!

[@CatchTheMarmosets]

Why is the gta grinder here

[@torinjones3221]

... this game is much better than skyrim

[@Dovah_Slayer]

​@@torinjones3221 I like both

[@HitsugiHime]

Not only was it an organization but it was basically a Religion. I wouldn’t call it a cult because Lucien gives you that chance to walk away if you choose not to accept his offer. You’re apart of a loyal group and even though they take joy in Murder, you almost feel a genuine connection with them. Like they’re a family. So the Purification ritual feels so heartbreaking especially when you hear them cry out: “Why brother/sister?!” Even worse… they never see it coming…

[@FedoraMask]

So the Dark Brotherhood promotes family bonds and loyalty, but is willing to rid themselves of a large portion of their group at the discretion of a higher-up? Who knew they would have that in common with big tech.

[@Makarosc]

They're literally a death cult

[@FedoraMask]

@@Makarosc Which one?

[@Makarosc]

@@FedoraMask wdym which one the one that kills people for a dark God

[@shiruotakuno28]

Cartels and gangs too

[@Elyseon]

​@@MakaroscApple? Japanese corporations?

[@stebbenwolfe]

Imagine being Teinaava and coming back to the sanctuary from your spying activities only to find everyone dead. Only to then stick around and have casual conversation with the PC.

[@napatora]

"spill some blood for me, dear brother" welp, if you insist...

[@TheStrangr]

Played through the DB questline twice. Any other time, this right here is where my assassin story ends, thank you very much. Vicente's final words of "Why, Brother?" cut deeper than the knife I carve him up with.

[@GoatGodBaal]

literally! i love vicente and lucien equally and they hurt the most. i cant get thru the purification or the rest of the questline without shedding a few tears. meanwhile ive 0 issues killing astrid and crew in skyrim 😂

[@keyanklupacs6333]

​@@GoatGodBaalI've always liked Antoinetta the Breton girl quite a bit I was always bummed out when I had to kill her and the Wood Elf.

[@danguillou713]

My impression is that this is a typical trajectory for a Dark Brotherhood organization. They recruit from their own victimized survivors and their only real vetting procedure is to make sure that the recruits are either psychopaths or axe-crazy. Or both. Then they tell the members "You're a family now, be loyal and take good care of each other." The ensuing murderous implosions (where I as a player am so far two for two) are pretty unsurprising, actually. And the Night Mother ... she seems to be against it only in principle. In the particular instances, she's all for it.

[@iriswinter]

This quest was devastating the first time I played and had no idea it was going to happen - and it was all for nothing in the end :(

[@rustyjones7908]

Devastating, but also enticing that I get to show everyone my skills first-hand

[@harrymasonsm]

Omg spoilers for this exceptionally old game many have played through hundreds of times! Lol

[@rustyjones7908]

@@harrymasonsm I got an official warning on Gamefaqs because I spoiled The Bible. Turns out they didn't know he comes back at the end.

[@iriswinter]

@@harrymasonsm have you found Cheryl yet, Harry? :o

[@harrymasonsm]

@@iriswinter look im just a tourist. I'm in town on vacation and I've been separated from my daughter. Have you seen her? She's about 7 dark brown hair.

[@XShaneX19]

The buildup to this quest they managed to achieve is amazing. It's not easy to make a player attached enough to side-characters and then drop a situation like this. It truly reminded me that the Dark Brotherhood is a true neutral evil in this universe.

[@jb111082]

More lawful evil, I'd say

[@XShaneX19]

@@jb111082 Yeah when I wrote this I. thought lawful evil means being evil while adhering to THE law. Yet it refers to being evil while following your own or groups set of strict laws. Basically being organized in evilness. The DB definitely falls into this category.

[@jb111082]

@@XShaneX19 Exactly, it's a fun type of evil because they don't see themselves as evil or opportunistic, many lawful evil things are either A. Religious, like the DB or B. Think they're doing the right thing, those are the most common in my experience at least

[@Ezekiel_0121]

"There's been some terrible trouble at the Chapel in Anvil. All of Dibella's priests and priestesses murdered!"

[@KoongYe]

Antoinetta Marie: Let them eat apple.

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

Next level comment work, right there!

[@asomelord]

"The most memorable murder spree? Must be the Draconis Family, i didn't think you were this far in the questline." *Watches first few seconds* "OH, OH NO!"

[@goose8313]

This quest makes me so sad First of all, obviously, because you have to kill your family members who have been nothing but supportive to you (except for M'raaj-Dar) And secondly (and most importantly) because it's the beginning of the end for the Dark Brotherhood, culminating in Lucien's death, which is also a very sad situation because he's been nothing but loyal to the Brotherhood and Sithis, and probably had an enormous amount of pressure on his shoulders trying to find the traitor - he was alone, and overtaken by the events

[@Makarosc]

He also ordered an entire sanctuary to be wiped out to find one traitor instead of actually investigating

[@floppymcflop5427]

@Dillon Leaf virgin listener vs. Chad dark brotherhood leader

[@gamingforever9121]

@@floppymcflop5427cringe comment!

[@floppymcflop5427]

@@gamingforever9121 maybe if you're addicted to the internet

[@gamingforever9121]

@@floppymcflop5427 maybe if you have shit tastes which you do.

[@destinygalearies7382]

Besides the fact that you're murdering your found family members, I think part of what made this quest so painful was the dramatic irony of the Sanctuary members being so happy and encouraging of your "secret contract"... when Vicente says "you must follow [Lucien's] word to the letter" and Ocheeva says "I know whatever task he has for you will be carried out with skill" it's just SO PAINFUL because they're inadvertently cheering on their own murders.... Or it could maybe make you wonder, would your family members understand if they knew this was an order from the Black Hand? Would they understand your duty to follow orders over preserving your own Sanctuary dwellers? There's just so much to think about in this quest

[@DarkLOREDash]

I agree. It was deliciously evil when first executing them but in retrospect, feels slightly hollow.

[@dakhosfate1654]

LET'S GOOO!!! I hope you do every guilds like this. It's so fun to watch

[@rustyjones7908]

There are a lot of weird things in Oblivion. Like, what's the deal with that weirdo in Bravil that keeps staring at the old lady statue? It's like he's trying to Listen for something...

[@Gravelgratious]

When I killed Ocheeva she said, “Brother why?” Had to pause and cry a little.

[@tzvikrasner6073]

With Skyblivion's release on the horizon, I'm going to be taking another shot at this after so long.

[@theredwhirlwin]

I'm so excited for it

[@humanish1]

Remind me, but Skyblivion won't be just revisiting Cyrodiil on Skyrim's era? At least on the videos i seen some time ago it was. If that's the case, then it has been about 400 years since the events of Oblivion

[@CatchTheMarmosets]

⁠​⁠@@humanish1 nah thats Beyond Cyrodil, skyblivion is recreating Oblivion in skyrim, and Beyond Cyrodil is the one making Cyrodil in skyrim era

[@jacoboddie5364]

It's only now that I realise that whodunnit is kind of like training for the purification, I wonder if there is any lore that affirms this

[@SmoothCode]

Purification sounds just like sithis and the night mother. You are at the disposal at the whims and fancy of the daedra. I wished there was a Destroy the Dark brotherhood quest line in Oblivion.

[@atlanderwrites]

Sithis isn’t even a daedra…it’s something older, darker and _much_ worse.

[@DarkVideogamer]

This is both my fave and most hated quest all at once. I got real attached to everyone and it hurt to do the cleansing. and then for the final result of everything turning out the way it did just made it hollow... kinda like a life of nothing but murder can be lol

[@AbysmalSeasoning]

I found it funny that the seven times Ive played this misson The bosmer is in the sanctuary everytime. I never knew she travels out. I guess I was fortunate.

[@Tgernos]

damn i love this series!!!!! after all these years i never heard that you can cheese the quest with garlic

[@DarkLOREDash]

Apologies, I missed Gogrons card during the final edit & it should be in place of Antoinettas! (I stayed up til 1 am on the render & of course went to bed thinking... 'I missed something' )Also - thank you for watching!!

[@Trigger99X]

My first play through I joined to destroy the brotherhood so when I got this quest I was like “oh no how would I ever do this”

[@WinterFaery84]

My favorite quest. It's so incredibly satisfying, especially if you've had low deposition with everyone.

[@DarkLOREDash]

How did you get a low disposition? I find it tedious without console commands

[@WinterFaery84]

@@DarkLOREDash Not me, but a friend of mine did. Had me cracking up. Never did figure out how.

[@magicamadeye]

as someone else already pointed out you reused antoinetta's portrait for the orc by accident

[@fawnieee]

Yay! I've been sick a bit recently again (thanks chronic condition) and been binging your videos as well as The Cantinas to get through it. Thank you so much for more content 💖

[@toonieven]

The quality of these vids is really excellent. Such a joy to watch. Such love for the franchise. They make me so nostalgic...

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thank you kindly, Brian!

[@ollie_last]

M‘raaj-Dar deciding this is the moment to start being nice to you and say sorry, sleazy or not. They couldn’t make even one of those kills easy on us, could they?

[@Samael16661]

When you're a teen you think nothing much of this quest. As an adult you pity these poor outcasts that their cult actually values them as much as their victims. They found a place where they could be a part of a community, but outside that sanctuary the Brotherhood is just a name. I really hate carrying out this quest because of that, but the message is clear: sects and cults will eventually have you killed, no matter what connections you make with individuals along the way. Sad, but real.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Agree. The more I hear their back stories, the more I believe they were targeted misfits.

[@kahnu893]

I can't get enough of your videos! Freaking love this channel!

[@CorvoFG]

Ive played this game since it's UK release. Along this series, youve shown me ways i could have handled these quests that i'd honestly never thought of. I think (after play 50), doing it any other way than just "whacking everyone until they all stop breathing", doesn't even occur to you. Keep it up, Dash. I'm enjoying the re-education!

[@DarkLOREDash]

I do it too,when not focusing (plus Oblivion combat is pretty meh sometimes)

[@finlay9616]

I truly wish there was a mod out there to save like... EVEN JUST ONE of the Cheydinhal Dark Brotherhood

[@nicolashugli9661]

Gogron. It couldn't have been him.

[@KimberlyKjellberg]

There is, it lets you save Vicente Valtieri. I have it installed but haven’t reached that part in the quest line.

[@KimberlyKjellberg]

@@nicolashugli9661 We do know how it is. Well not at that point but later.

[@finlay9616]

@@KimberlyKjellberg REALLY?!? Tbh, he's the only one I'd pass on saving 😹

[@KimberlyKjellberg]

@@finlay9616 That’s fine. I pass on that rude khajiit any day. Trying to be sweet in the end after being needlessly rude every time I even walked near him, isn’t convincing to me. I care as much for him as I do for the annoying robbers that demand I pay them 100 gold for walking on the road. In other words not at all!

[@DetectiveJones]

THIS was the episode I was most excited for! The murder mansion is an absolute blast of a mission but for more fun reasons where as the purification carries so much weight and character behind it...He probably showed all the negative reputation dialogue throughout this series just so he doesnt feel so bad killing the family

[@mattiasandersson1276]

I am staying home being sick and was a bit bored, especially since I can't exercise and so on. Then I saw this, Dark Lore Dash releasing a new Oblivion Video contiuing the Dark Brotherhood Questline and now the sick time doesn't seem bad. Life is good. :)

[@MLBeaton]

Lachance is my favorite character in ES... Even more than my own character! When I first discovered the summon in Skyrim... I could finally let Oblivion go .... Still play it though...

[@MoonspiritX]

🗡 *Dark Brotherhood | The Purification* 🗡 • 13:43 Vicente Valtieri - Death by Garlic 🧄 • 19:07 M'raaj Dar - The Kiss-Ass Punching Bag 💰 • 23:08 Ocheeva & Teinaava - Ghostbusted 👻 • 27:37 Telaendril - The Long Shot 🏹 • 32:52 Antoinetta Marie - Kitchen Nightmare 🍳 • 35:08 Gogron gro-Bolmog - Hacked 🪓

[@JohnDoe-yo5nd]

I would kill to feel the feelings this quest gave me the first time

[@DarkLOREDash]

This is me with most impactful gaming moments

[@TheSuperTroutMan]

Your killing has been observed by unseen forces

[@Great_White_Shork]

I never kill Schemer during this quest. He's my little buddy.

[@imonke5303]

Metal as fuck that he keeps scar tail's heart on his persons

[@shelbycoffey7441]

I’m about to start this one. Watching you go through the contracts has been awesome, I’ve learned about options and interactions I had no idea about after all these years. Good work!

[@DG9-q6f]

"This is evil" in the thumbnail is actually false - killing several serial murders in one go is definitely the LEAST evil thing you do in the Dark Brotherhood questline.

[@kinsmen8521]

Nice. I was wondering when this would come. It was a sad time when i first did this quest. Though I laugh when m'jaar apologized just when his death was signed.

[@mitchellshaw7739]

Love this content bro oblivion in late 2023 ❤️❤️

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thank you Mr Shaw

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

Yaaasssss new DLD content! I'm living for this!

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

The Hero of Kvatch after being told he's been systematically killing members of the Black Hand: 'Oops.'

[@mesektet5776]

Your payment from Lucien Lachance, dear brother.

[@DarkLOREDash]

[Say nothing] I kid, you are too kind!

[@The_Sharktocrab]

Not only do you have to kill the people who have been like a family for you but it turns out to all be for nothing

[@wonkehcheetah1138]

Before starting Purification: "I hate M'raaj-Dar, all my homies hate M'raaj-Dar, If everyone in the world loved M'raaj-Dar, I'd be a one man army against the whole world just to end him." After starting purification: "M'raaj-Dar did nothing wrong! I'm sorry my dear brother, I cannot defy Sithis, but I will make your death painless, 'cuz you were the realest."

[@anotterwithaphone3077]

I know! I used console commands to respawn him when I did the quest.

[@whtwolfgames7983]

Thank you for the jump scare pictures of the targets, it's also a real shame the NPCs here don't comment on the dead ones, would have been interesting to see that just like in the whodunit quest

[@harrymasonsm]

Wow the ending of this video just kind of sneaks up on you. Like the guild its about. Well done. ;)

[@613aristocrat]

3:26 I would be thinking, sounds more like you want me to do some pest control.

[@allenlindsey1175]

Bro you narrate this better then VET Tv. dd Marines in their natural habitat....lolz so much dry witted Comedic gold

[@theviking1359]

I used the guards outside and the sunlight to take care of the vampire and I use the guards to take care of the work everyone else I did myself

[@Rainbow-Cobra89]

My first heartbreaking moment in video games; When this quest was given to me, I remember tearing up after killing Vicente & Argonian hatchmates. The dying words really hammered those feels home… Fast forward & after playing the Skyrim’s DB line, I was so disappointed. The conclusion just felt so hollow & sloppily written compared to Oblivion’s DB ending.💔

[@dmitritelvanni4068]

Seriously dude... Broke my heart on this quest... I havent been the same person since.

[@KimberlyKjellberg]

I make it easy, apples for everyone except Vicente that doesn’t eat such things. I go to Fort Farragut before even joining for those apples.

[@tatlxtael2303]

wait i think you accidentally reused Marie Antoinetta's portrait for the Orc but very good still ove all

[@landoncube769]

If you use scrolls for the dupe glitch use rufios summon scroll. Not only can you sell the copies for a lot of money but they're weightless since it's technically an item from a quest. So you can carry like 100 of them with no weight

[@kenny6920]

Been looking forward to this one

[@fuchsraeude1294]

Every time I've returned from Lucien Lachance's lair to the Cheydinhal Sanctuary to fulfill this contract, Telaendril was at the dining table enjoying a long meal. Merciful as I am I offered her one of my apples for dessert... just as Antoinette was always lying peacefully in her bed. Another mercy was making sure she never awoke from her dream.

[@harleyandhonda3153]

Why did the "Gray Fox" want Hieronymous Lex reassigned to Anvil? The end of the questline makes me wonder. Is he a friend or just a respected adversary of Corvus Umbranox?

[@vexile1239]

To protect his wife

[@SnaccHBG]

​@@vexile1239Wait that actually makes too much sense, two birds with one stone

[@AwareWolfOnWheels]

I have over 3k hours in onlivion and I never knew Vicente was weakened by garlic. First time a game facts video actually showed me something I didn't already know.

[@jamesdench9224]

I don't know if this has been raised yet but for Gogran's section the introducing graphic is for Antoinette not him :)

[@feuerzange4055]

The Vampire Afflicted by Garlic made me Laugh 😂😂😂

[@moggwa6071]

ngl you make me wanna play oblivion again

[@NordRageLevicus]

My heart broke when I first time I did this quest when M'raaj actually stopped being a jerk right before needing to off him.

[@smoothALOE]

I never have been nearly as creative as you were while dispatching of the other members in the order. I just snipe them one by one from a safe distance and save the Khajit until the end so I can sell as many of the items I take from the others as possible. It’s always been a fun task to me, except that there’s that one member who always seems to be away from the base and I have to travel elsewhere to hunt her down.

[@springheeljak145]

I think I've used the tree stump entrance every time

[@saber5821]

If this quest didn't break your heart after its completion you're a better assassin than I

[@macsays9689]

I remember first getting this quest I was like seriously. Dark brotherhood quests are the best

[@Blandy8521]

Given what happens in the next questline I wonder if the Lucian that gave us this quest was an imposter or not.

[@charlesvitanza8867]

I doubt it personally as later Lucian rips you a new one for doing similar when you are his silencer. This was clearly sanctioned by the night mother as you don't get a visit from the Wraith of Sithis for violating the tenets. Why you don't later is because you are acting under orders of a black hand member.

[@AntiKira20]

Execute Order 66.

[@richardnixon4991]

When you go to the section for Gogrun, Antoinette Marie’s title card appears instead of his.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Ah shit. Thank you!

[@richardnixon4991]

@@DarkLOREDash No problem citizen. Keep an eye out I heard there are commie spies- I mean, dark brotherhood assassins in these parts.

[@How_Do_I_Set_a_Username]

Congrats on catching the traitor! Who would have thought the Dark Brotherhood questline would end so soon? Gogron and his battle axe of deception, however, couldn't fool you. Now, it's time to retire, and maybe settle down on a farm to hang with your good old pal Lucien.

[@naime7638]

This quest broke my ❤️ 😢

[@good_old_johnny6661]

now this, is epic

[@jacobleflore2614]

This quest is the only one that hit me in my feels basically to sum it up is the do men even have feelings meme with this in , that's how I feel

[@bridgetbrennan6615]

Every time I play this quest, it causes emotional harm. I know it’s just a game and the NPCs aren’t real, but it still hurts.

[@spvcecase]

A Assassin among assassins who would’ve e guessed

[@brantnuttall]

1:41 after doing the guild a few times, I've just realised the stupidity of the last line! lol

[@ryanblood5375]

If your coworkers had a low disposition towards you before, its about to get a lot lower.....

[@capslocked2142]

Night mother have mercy!!!!

[@DarkLOREDash]

It's funny how they beg to the God of death to spare them 🤣

[@Asoeee]

good job Dash

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thank ye kindly, Asone 😁

[@jamesnurgle6368]

I defiantly ruined this quest for myself by duplicating hundreds of poison apple's. I can't even remember how that worked out for me.

[@taurus600]

It upsets me every time to have to kill Ocheeva and Teinaava. With me being argonian, they had 100 disposition to me the second i walked in, and were constantly incredibly nice to me

[@BlueVenom9]

The most painful quest in all of oblivion

[@TakaChan569]

I never liked the "purification" quest for the Dark Brotherhood, it has you killing off chars i really did come to like and are replaced with kinda boring ones.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Agree. Fun in theory

[@NOOBLETK]

34:48 whoo!

[@Hugh_Mongus_Chode]

Do this for every quest of every game, I don’t have time or energy to play games anymore

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thats why I make these 😁

[@angelasnow01]

Wolf Queen Potema approved™️

[@innerkaioken]

Pulling a CQ shift and this pops up yessir thank you muchly

[@maxwellhill4754]

It's just dumb that hand member wouldn't know paralyze or invisibility then start conversation with Lucien's silencer. Lucien is so sneaky he finds you after one murder... The rest of the hand can't stop you and talk to you in the same room?

[@TheMajinHermit]

Hardly counts as evil to kill a bunch of Assassins tbh

[@divulgedspirit]

It's all subjective

[@joshs3775]

This is good stuff

[@aqsa4561]

I actually hate this one. I know it’s technically just a game but I feel invested in the dark brotherhood family more than any other guild. Lol I think it’s time I get a life 😂

[@DarkLOREDash]

OR double down on the Oblivion love. I'm here to chat 😏😅

[@aqsa4561]

Oblivion has been my favourite game since I was like 13 so I think I’m way past the point of getting a life now anyway 😂 But honestly, your content makes your channel my favourite by far, I look forward to your videos more than I care to admit ❤️😅

[@ninjanyangaming2924]

I always use the “resurrect” console command on the family members I like after killing all of them in this quest

[@Dr.RatioSnail]

Wait did you pickpocket antoinettas' clothes 🤣

[@DarkLOREDash]

No! It's a reload bug but a funny one