The most positive traits tier list ever

[@LanEXHikari]

-"Angler is S tier, always pick it" -Okay, got it! *Starts in Rosewood*

[@Mattsi]

Looks like you gotta watch the Riverside video next 👀👀👀👀

[@markovukovic5614]

@@Mattsibest spawn place

[@CarlLoProduccions]

i fish on the lake nearby...

[@Murolas]

@@Mattsi doesnt riverside have like a bait shop where you can find a fishing rod?

[@mbatistas]

​@@Murolasyes. The fishing shop is at the west end of Riverside, west of the police station, a small building near the river.

[@blazikem]

34:00 you're actually sleeping on this trait (pun intended) its only -2 points AND it gives you so much more time in your day to do shit its amazing its basically fast reader but it affects you every day for the same amount of points. Only issue i can maybe see is it can mean you sleep so little it may still be night outside but you have to think as well it means you dont get the drowsy debuff as fast

[@LawlessNate]

Baseball player is a fantastic trait. For 4 points you get that gargantuan +75% experience boost for long blunt. You could not have any traits dedicated anything else combat wise, then take this trait for just 4 points and now you have a great setup for a long blunt build.

[@walletracer9882]

Yeah he undervalues the xp bonus for several of the best weapons yet values first aid in a game where a single scratch can kill you anyways. They don't deserve to be in the same category :(

[@crazylasagna3576]

It's way better than 75%; it's actually a +300% experience boost (or x4 xp of base). You heard me.

[@vincentchin6678]

Its actually 400% from what ppl have calculated, that is x4 xp for each zombie you kill! Its probably one the most underrated traits in the game. Any trait or profession that gives you +1 to +3 is 400% to 600% experience gain. The guy who rated these traits is an idiot doesnt know what he is talking about. After learning the basics of the game its quite possible to survive a week and that usually means you managed to kill about a 100 zombies. With the xp boost you basically get to +3 in long blunt, axe or +4 in short blunt if you took construction worker. At that level you can reasonably take on 3-4 zombies and survive which means getting loot, securing a base and basically setting yourself up for a long run.

[@crazylasagna3576]

@@vincentchin6678 By 300% boost I meant +300% so yeah, 400% of base.

[@jacobely6826]

"there is never a situation where you dont need fishing" i mean... im gonna say what nobody wants to hear but is one hundred percent true. every single town in the game has enough food to last you for at least a year. i farm for convenience, but at no point do i feel like i need to fish..

[@Mattsi]

Fish fear me, women fear me, men fear me, etc etc

[@Lynchblade]

@@Mattsi 1-man army type shit

[@CatacombD]

The fact that you often take sleepyhead instead of wakeful explains why you need fast reader to try to keep up with books. If you take wakeful instead, you not only are stronger on long loot runs (by avoiding the tired moodle) but you can also spend all those extra hours you gain each day to read. So basically, you are currently doing the equivalent of hacking off your own foot, replacing it with a peg leg, and telling people that it's better, because now you don't have to worry about losing your foot. Absolutely foolish, and there is a reason why this was a hot take.

[@Mattsi]

No, I'm roleplaying me. Burning the candle at all three ends :^)

[@lionllew6601]

Exactly! I had the 2 point choice between wakeful and fast reader in my cuyrrent build and I decided that the long term benifits of wakeful was far more worth it.

[@raulpalomino9472]

I wouldn't give Baseball a F, because the HUGE boost it gives to xp (x3 faster). Not amazing, but if you plan to use bats or crowbars as main weapon, you should take it. On the other hand, a no-brainer S for Angler is maybe too much, given you can also do long playthroughs without ever fishing (trapping, or nomad style). I don't think Angler is bad, or Baseball is wonderful, but, at least in my experience, they aren't "always take" and "foolish")

[@Mattsi]

I don't think the boost is gonna be the difference between living and not doing that, so the XP gain isn't a huge deal for me. And Angler was... Mostly a joke but I really like fishing in most games I play

[@dddmemaybe]

You can use the Fit trait (the +2 one) with the Fitness Instructor occupation for 10(9) fitness and use the shitty Nutritionist to min-max losing underweight(and hoard protein) and also be a god of running with the +2 sprinting bonus and infinite endurance. Pairs well with anti-trip stuff like graceful. This occupation also does any fitness and _strength_ exercises at a massive reduction of exercise fatigue that stacks with fitness level (of ~10 here).

[@Spurgu]

Picking runner when you're playing with sprinters is not foolish

[@Mattsi]

I only use sprinter in my meme builds or very specific cases like this, but it doesn't get a pass. Goofy looking trait, at least let me spawn with a pair of SOAP shoes 😎👉👉

[@liamaincraft7614]

@@Mattsi bro runner gives you like a 400% exp boost to sprinting

[@varpureiniaho9330]

Every trait video I've watched people say "don't pick Fast Reader because you can fast forward time" and I'm like, sure, you can, but the time itself still stays L I M I T E D in a game that's essentially a race against the passage of time! So, thank you for providing the correct opinion. I always pick Fast Reader and I feel vindicated =D

[@jimmyslimmy60]

Exactly! It takes TOO long with slow reader. Those 2 points that it cost are well worth it!

[@Mattsi]

There's a huge difference between spending minimal IN GAME time on skill books and maximum time on ACTUALLY GAINING THE SKILL and spending TOO MUCH time on skill books and losing out on that time you could be gaining XP - JUST because it feels faster irl. I think that's a huge insight on how some folks handle time management, but you didn't hear that from me 👀

[@fishyfinthing8854]

Some people cheat the reading time with mod or with exp modifier. I did that when co-op with my brother for two reasons. I don’t want him to wait for me finish reading and he don’t have time and dedication to go skill building. He would rather go for the action.

[@trashmix2184]

If you're completely safe then it doesn't matter, in endgame it never impacts you because you have a bunch of fuel to keep the generator going and a bunch of food and water so it doesn't ever impact you

[@varpureiniaho9330]

@@trashmix2184 True, but the point is you need that extra time early on specifically to secure that safe place... That's when you need to balance time spent doing vs. studying.

[@thefallenone199]

The main thing I love is when he added boss music because he knew he was going against all other content creators

[@Mattsi]

I know who I am :^) The villain

[@AImpatientMan]

Not gonna lie as a player with 1100 hours within 8 months because I have no life, you should always take iron gut because the icon looks cute

[@Mattsi]

THIS IS THE MOST BASED TAKE, THANK YOU

[@thrakirlp4233]

My argument for baseballplayer is that multiplier on it. The baseballbat and crowbar are very good weapons. You should always go for at least one multiplier on one weapontype because you are in a god dam zombie game and youre forced to fight. You can kill a lot more zombies if you manage to level and it make the game a lot easier.

[@oIPsychotixIo]

Overall a good list honestly! A few hot takes but it was pretty good. Biggest hot take argument though was your statement/ranking of Fast Reader and Wakeful - If by what you've said taking Fast Reader to read through books quicker and thus have more in game time to better prepare yourself/gain a more advantageous survival situation, wouldn't Wakeful do the same thing since you require 30% less sleep, thus you have 30% more time in the day to use? I do agree with you on Fast Reader though for the same reasons I argue that Wakeful is S or probably even S+. Note on the Lucky trait, I never take this trait and actually always take Unlucky. A lot of newer people see this trait and see "Oh wow, 10% rare loot? Amazing this is great" The key is in the wording RARE loot. Only certain items in the game class as RARE loot. A sledgehammer is one, a katana is one or a spiked baseball bat as well and a few others. Those are the items that are effected by that 10% rarity among a few others. Outdoorsman is an insane trait for 2 points. I think it should cost 4. It's not as effective at the start of the game but once you get to Winter, my god does it shine. I actually take Outdoorsman 100% of the time with Prone to Illness as it brings down the negativity of Prone To Illness immensely. I REALLY wish there was a version of Fast Learner for Fitness and Strength. "Natural Athlete" for instance.

[@Mattsi]

I agree with p much everything here. I don't fully remember what I ranked Wakeful, but I'm likely going to walk back how I feel about it and put it in S as well. Thank you for the thorough comment, man, I really appreciate hearing your thoughts :D

[@burzslaw]

Yeah. I'm gonna argue. Fast reader, while being not bad, is very situational. Personally i never found myself needing to read books while being short on time. It's usually in a safe spot, where i can not worry about zombies moving around and trying to eat my brains. The only place, where this perks truly shines, is mp due to no time speeding

[@Mattsi]

I think any server worth it's salt bumps up reading speed, I did with my server when it was up :^) Def situational, but I'm not the authority for what folks take. I think that's Retanaru 🤔

[@MaximumPotato0102]

A question - you justify taking fast reader by quoting how much time it saves (which I fully agree with), but if that's the case, why would you rate wakeful at a C? 30% less sleep equates to about 2-3 hours of time saved per night, which leaves you more time for base building and organization during the nighttime hours. Admittedly its more of a pain to manage your sleep schedule, but I feel the sheer amount of time it saves over the course of a run more than makes up for it.

[@Mattsi]

That's a real good point, and I agree wholeheartedly with you. My C tier was mostly a filler tier. Not that the traits were bad, just that I don't prioritize them when building a character. And I definitely think my needs as a content creator for the game color my perception of night time in-game, so I don't really think to utilize the darker hours because I think it looks bad in videos and I don't love dealing with it in editing - which is where my love of Cat's Eyes comes in, but really just as a backup for when I can't be bothered to sleep or can't altogether. Hopefully that clears it up, especially without the overt jokes I always throw in the videos :D

[@aaronhelmsman]

Finally someone else said it. Books only matter early on, anyway.

[@themudpit621]

@@Mattsi wakeful and poor sleeper, try it.

[@imlivingunderyourbed7845]

​@@themudpit621 Restless Sleeper is unbearable to have even with Wakeful. A character may need less sleep with Wakeful, but Restless Sleeper will make them recover less energy and also wake up halfway through and not be able to go back to sleep.

[@titustaylor5545]

better to be a warrior in a garden then a gardener in a war

[@Mattsi]

Thank you, Sans Undertale

[@KrzychuYea]

First time I see someone who finally has a Based opinion about Fast Reader, based on facts and logic. All the other goofy ass content creators be like: "Yeah bro lemme just speed up time to read one book for the whole day while the helicopter is coming, electricity shuts off in few days and I waste Life and Living XP"

[@Mattsi]

TRUE, POP OFF

[@fishyfinthing8854]

If experience, one can rush a book store and combined with fast reading, TV. It’s sure a huge exp right from the first few days and fews more days to come. Sure you will get your base up and your production ahead of time which may snowball your progress.

[@rkit6707]

I never use books anyways

[@Nighty09]

so youve never played without electricity off or some months into the world huh? nice one, but now try not to depend half your skills on aa tv show 👍

[@rkit6707]

@@Nighty09 never use TVs and I have survived 6 months before getting bored and starting a new run

[@asdasdasd-fn2oq]

bro talks about how important is to get fast reader because of ingame time and at the end he just throws wakeful to c tier cuz he likes to take sleepyhead o.O

[@Mattsi]

I'm roleplaying myself

[@Fa151]

i only disagree with strong athletic cause they are the hardest skill to level up wakeful also spare you more time since you recover fast and sleep less and also dextrous cause really all you do all game is loot from zombies shelves boxes and anything else so doing it faster spare you a lot of time

[@Mattsi]

Based takes! I think even I agree with you here, but I can't admit that so don't tell anyone 👀

[@rex_felium]

the trauma center music as soon as fast healer is pulled up. probably not intentional but still you utter madman

[@rex_felium]

AND FIRST AIDER nevermind you're just based. god bless

[@Mattsi]

I know who I am :^) I'm glad you caught on! :D

[@Defended_Pie]

Baseball player gives you a +75% xp gained in long blunt trust me it is worth the 4 points.

[@marcomuller5985]

Yeah right? I always play long blunt weapon since it doesnt destroy the clothing. Combined with 30 xp boost u character is going to lvl up that fast and will be a fighter machine

[@coffeemate7541]

The Mechanic occupation costs a lot more than the armature mechanic trait because the alternative is plus 8 points.

[@Mattsi]

Give or take, depends on the occupation and what you want out of your character. I didn't spend a crazy amount of time doing math in my head tbh

[@delugesofgrandeur]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Unemployed + Amateur Mechanic is bonus points vs the Mechanic occupation.

[@jacobely6826]

may have been pointed out already but the clear descriptions mod was actually wrong, brave gives you -70 percent panic (its been fixed in the description now) the creator saw that it was multiplied by 0.3 and got some wires crossed and assumed that meant 30 percent decrease when it meant you only got 30 percent panic rather than 100 percent. which IMHO makes it MUCH better.

[@dylan7371]

I love the different music that you go through while talking about different traits, honestly makes it so intense. Grabbed my attention so hard 😂

[@Mattsi]

I'm glad you appreciated the music! One of my favorite parts of my videos, although I don't have time to do it much anymore :")

[@TheDhall]

As a long blunt main I am offended! jk dude everyone has there own build

[@Mattsi]

I'm extremely offended, how dare you let me be autonomous

[@TheDhall]

@@Mattsi haha

[@delugesofgrandeur]

Two things. 1) Eh, I think fast Reader should be situational and not just because you can skip time. To me it outlives its usefulness once the tv shows go off the air. Also, you need to find all of the books you need quickly to even maximize that. There are VHS tapes that you can get so you can level those skills after you've read the books meaning you can do it at your own pace so how quickly you can read a book doesn't matter. After you've survived for awhile you'll find yourself needing something to do and reading a book is a good time waster... but not if you have fast reader. 2) At best I think Thick-Skinned is situational. Your logic for why you like it is solid, however, the sandbox settings are such that if you struggle with combat you can absolutely tailor the game to your skill level. If you're playing with fast shamblers or sprinters, yeah, I could see this being a must-take, but with slow zombies? No way.

[@Blackcain]

Nope on Fast Reader. Yes on Slow Reader. Because the only time I get to eat, wash, sleep IRL is when my PZ character is reading

[@Mattsi]

Wait, what?

[@phineasgage8252]

First aid does absolutely nothing unfortunately. Would have liked if it was a good skill, but the only injury that matters (except instant death) is a broken leg, which is rare and requires you to do something really reckless or stupid.

[@phineasgage8252]

Wakeful is high S, 2 points for something that influences everything (both endurance and fatigue) is an absolute must-have.

[@Mattsi]

It's aight, I wouldn't call it hard S, but I get why one would for sure

[@crazylasagna3576]

I'm going to respectfully disagree on like half this trait list. - Angler is good but hardly S tier - Fast Reader is really nice for multiplier but only decent/good in singleplayer. - Someone did the math and Thick Skinned basically just gives you about an 8% bonus dodge chance against zombies. IMO that's very little for a whopping 8 point cost. - Fast Healer really doesn't matter except for serious injuries that would last over a week. - The bonus to Foraging of Former Scout is nice but the First Aid bonus is very meh. For 6 points it's pretty weak. - Iron Gut is bad. Rotten food barely gives any nutrition and hunger anyway so it's hardly worth eating and (I've heard) you can still die from food poisoning with Iron Gut. There's just no point. - Brave actually means you receive only 30% of normal panic. Not actually disagreeing much with your placement, but just wanted to let you know. - Low Thirst is just so unimportant. Managing thirst is extremely easy as long as you carry 1-2 water bottles that it's not even a filler trait, it's just bad. - Wakeful is extremely good on multiple levels. Putting it in filler is a crime - Brawler gives you a significant bonus to your Axe and Long Blunt leveling. If you want to use both, it's pretty solid. - Strong is not amazing, but a solid trait. - Fit is pretty good, especially when combined with Underweight for a free level in fitness at the cost of starting below weight - Considering how bullshit long it takes to level tailoring (especially in multiplayer), Sewer can save you a lot of time and thread (so much thread) - Crowbar supremacists want to know your location after putting Baseball Player in F - Runner certainly isn't great but it's hardly F tier. Being able to run faster is both convenient and can save you in sticky situations. Of note, once reaching certain sprinting levels allows you to sprint/jog while under more negative effects such as being able to sprint while over encumbered.

[@farshot2713]

Alternate titles "The most foraged forage list ever foraged" or "I will sell my biological children for 0.2 search radius"

[@Mattsi]

You're not wrong, but those wouldn't bang in the algorithm :(

[@farshot2713]

@@Mattsi yeah, the second one might be a bit... illegal 🤔

[@anthonyontv]

This was a fun video; I like your style and giving unique opinions while showing us the data, it’s perfect. Easy sub.

[@Mattsi]

I appreciate that, thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :D

[@whereuwannabe7796]

Inconsistent tiers. Cat eyes is S when you can go in vanilla settings and just adjust the darkness but bravery is downgraded because there's a mod for it. Doesn't make sense.

[@Mattsi]

Are you beginning to get the joke?

[@Winasaurus]

"Take boy scout because it knocks a good chunk off of the darkness penalty (it's literally 3%) to help you find garbage bags for early game carryweight" Yeah if only there was some way to find garbage bags in the residential areas where you spawn. I'd recommend Lucky to maybe catch a glimpse of such a rare find... Lucky is pretty goated. In a game where one of the whole points is non-respawning good loot in cities, making that loot consistently 10% better (which includes weapon condition, ammo, building keys, amount of food in freezers, amount of drainable items like lighters), and considering that this even technically applies to the random weapons and items zombies can spawn with, making it's effect a permanent significant boost, it's pretty fantastic. Thick skinned is horrifically bad. Entirely because if you take it, you can't take the amazing counterpart thin-skinned. Thin-skinned is literally free points. So if you choose thick-skinned, you're not only paying it's cost, but losing on the points you can get for free with thin-skinned. It's part of why low thirst sucks. Sure it's kinda nice to not drink so much, but I prefer the points from high thirst. Wakeful is insanely good. How are you going to talk about not wasting precious minutes on books, but then waste literal hours by choosing sleepyhead and not wakeful? With wakeful you can take slow reader and enjoy those sweet free points. Fast reader would be good if there was a reason to read more than the skill books. As it is, once you've read them, it's a dead weight trait. Pick wakeful, grab a digital watch early, and enjoy the insane amount of time you have to do everything. If you're paranoid about going out at night, take keen hearing and get out there. Once you're used to it, the night is barely any more difficult. (Though if you pick cats eyes you are actually clinically wrong, just turn your gamma up bro)

[@joemarais7683]

Angler at S tier is such a big brain take. I hate it but I can’t disagree with anything about it.

[@Mattsi]

True

[@excavator_man]

If you take strong and lumberjack, you start with 10 strenght

[@Mattsi]

I feel like if Lumberjack wasn't as good as it is this would be a waste of an occupation. I don't think this combo is good because it gives you 10 strength, I think the difference between 9 and 10 is probably negligible. However, I think this combo is good because Lumberjack carries 100%

[@ripleysykes9142]

I personally love Maintenance, so in the absence of mods to add books for maintenance or other traits for it, Handy deserves recognition for being one the only ways to get a kickstart to Maintenance

[@the_hate_inside1085]

This tierlist is silly, you always pick fast reader to save time, but then you skimp out on -30% sleep time every night, for a bargain price of 2 points... What do you think is going to occur more in the game sleeping, or reading books? When you have read all the books, fast reading is useless, but you are still going to have to sleep...

[@Mattsi]

I'm rp'ing

[@elpatosad5757]

I usually take thin skin + slow healer because they give you so much points but now I don't know if I'm choosing right

[@Mattsi]

There really isn't a wrong way to choose anything, if you're looking to min/max that's valid, if you just wanna play around, that is too

[@phineasgage8252]

More than one point give diminishing returns for xp gain, so it is better to have +1 in several different skills (as long as they are useful) than +3 in one.

[@Mattsi]

I've never seen any sort of data to back that up, but maybe I just gotta dig back in and find something I may have missed

[@phineasgage8252]

@@Mattsi Well one point gives 4x the experience while two points give 5x and three points 6x (I think?), thus diminishing returns.

[@amel888]

For long-term runs, I've noticed it's a LOT easier to level up strength than fitness, so in my runs I would prob be more likely to take fitness traits rather than strength just so I can focus on strength and not worry about fitness

[@Cerioth]

Finally! someone who agrees with me that fast reader is S tier even in single player!

[@aaronhelmsman]

I don't understand why you don't like wakeful but like fast reader. What happened to all the time you could save reading books? How about the permanent decrease to idle time, time that only gets more valuable in the long term? You can work out before bed, take your nice short nap for the night, then read in the morning while cooking. Min-max it or don't. I won't take this slander of Wakeful

[@Mattsi]

I explained it in another comment earlier, but basically I hate night time

[@topside774]

Baseball Player is only op when your looking at the death screen

[@Mattsi]

I can't tell if you're implying Baseball Player brought you to the death screen or there's more zed kills on the death screen... Either way, good comment, got a hearty chuckle

[@fishyfinthing8854]

It will be viable if you want to go all in on crowbar. And then at some point, you will master crowbar so well it hit just as hard as having a machete lv0

[@themudpit621]

@@Mattsi I think they mean to HIT the death screen WITH the baseball bat.

[@makato_yuki1523]

the one time I took Baseball Player was when I roleplayed as a former Baseball Player, only acceptable time to take that trait. The good news was that my starting house had a baseball bat in it so I could use the skill pretty fast.

[@Aerix47]

everything is wrong, watched it for 20 sec is enough for me

[@Mattsi]

NO ONE LISTEN TO HIM HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT

[@freakboy1984]

Lol, it's a spoof vid, man

[@Mattsi]

@@freakboy1984 Nah, I'm 100% serious. I'm just also incredibly funny and humble.

[@sayhitoyutub]

xdddd it is unanimous

[@MacMan1]

This was an amazing video! I thought you were a bigger channel. Keep up the content man!

[@Mattsi]

I appreciate that, Mac! Thank you :D

[@yeetmanthe2nd529]

I agree with everything hes saying about thick skinned. To everyone that just says "oh don't take damage." well no shit Sherlock I'm not taking thick skin to running at zombies and take damage. I'm taking it to have something to fall back on when I do find myself in that scenario.

[@Anonymous8547]

Not worth the opportunity cost. Take thin-skinned and use the 16 points into something that actually prevents you from taking damage in the first place, like strong/athletic.

[@yeetmanthe2nd529]

@@Anonymous8547 Might not be worth the opportunity cost for you but that does not mean it's not worth the opportunity cost for me.

[@judemarvel2137]

You should definitely make one of these with professions as well! Great video 👍🏼

[@Mattsi]

Thank you! I plan to do one with negative traits and professions as well! :D

[@ThatDogFromThatOneAnime]

ANGLER S TIER LET'S GO BAIT SHOP BOIS MOUNT UP

[@Mattsi]

LET'S GOOOOOO

[@claytheenemy]

Wakeful is the only must have, all my builds with it last

[@Mattsi]

Sleepyhead best trait

[@blu7384]

Wakeful fucks with my sleep scheduling way too much tbh. I always get the day & then half the night until I’m extremely tired and pretty much have to spend a day milling about my base until it’s time to go to bed

[@themudpit621]

dude, put it with poor sleeper. 4 free points, and the one solves the other. Hot tip for a wakeful appreciator.

[@themudpit621]

@@blu7384 with wakeful you only sleep three hours, you can have a zombie bashing the door down and be awake again before he gets through ;) I sleep anywhere, not at my base!

[@matthewjimbangan3432]

This is the most unhinged tierlist ive ever seens. I love it lmao

[@Mattsi]

I'm something of a hingeless fella I do plan on making more :^)

[@Nacalal]

Saying you shouldn't pick thick skinned because you shouldn't take damage is the zomboid equivalent to that moron that tells you not to buy armor in CS because you should kill them before they can shoot you.

[@Mattsi]

TRUE! SO TRUE, KING! POP OFF!

[@marcodayoub1920]

Thats not how you think it works thick skinned is a 30% extra depending on your block chance and stun lock will still kill you

[@TheGameMasterMecha]

Thanks to you I have ready to use Incesticide spray in every playthrough.

[@Mattsi]

:')

[@adhvayisstupid8]

incesticide? you might wanna fix that

[@WestinsChannel]

"Incesticide." XD

[@OrrinSalton]

May we get a version for the Profession Overhaul as it rebalances a bunch of the traits/professions? Otherwise really amazing video. (Unsure what makes baseball player bad but im new so idk)

[@Mattsi]

There was a profession overhaul? I've been out of the game for like a month or two with life stuff taking my attention :')

[@trashmix2184]

Angler isn't a very good s tier, If you have enough time to fish chances are you've already set down a base and are set pretty well off, I would put angler in c tier since its pretty useful in some scenarios but most times it isnt

[@Mattsi]

Nah, fishing is S tier in everything

[@jct0064]

@@Mattsishut the front door

[@Mattsi]

@@jct0064 Only every time I go fishing 🎣

[@catabel5375]

I find this list fairly inconsistent, although not bad. I particularly like the placement of Fit and Stout, the all or nothing approach is how I feel about those traits as well. There are two ways to look at traits, short term and long term, both are 100% valid ways of playing the game, simply have different goals. Fast Learner + Fast Reader in S tier leads me to think this list is from a short term perspective. . however Brave which is arguably shines the brightest early game, is excluded from a high or even middling tier. Gardener is fairly high even though that skill truly doesn't do anything for a player -- even one hell bent on focusing farming, the skill levels so fast on its own and even level 10 farming gives practically nothing, you're paying 4 points for a magazine basically. And one of the most egregious Baseball Player in F??? Long blunt is one of the best weapon types, starting stronger + leveling 400% faster lets you crush all zombies in your starting area. The only thing you mention about it is 'there are better traits' yet you put all the other 4 cost traits in C tier basically? Other then graceful and lucky, which like, sure ok those are definitely better--but both take TIME to acrew their bonus, where baseball player is instant--for a short term mindset baseball player. . . k. . knocks it outa the park!! As a whole, it was immensely entertaining to watch, but please use more blunt weapons you silly gremlin friend :D

[@Mattsi]

Respectfully, I will never use a blunt weapon 🔫🔪

[@allegedapprentice]

my crowbar maining ass did NOT need to get called out for baseball player 😭

[@Mattsi]

Baseball Player bad, Crowbar good, no need to mix the two

[@dragon1011dk]

"Incesticide spray, to be fair some states need it" Sweeet home Alabama!

[@randylahey4575]

I think Thick skinned is F tier simply because you take thin skinned for the 8 points. I think Gymnast has to be S tier as well because the nimble skill is so cancer to level up. Dextrous should go up. Fast healer should also be F tier because its more points your losing out on from slow healer you should just be in your base taking the time to read books or do some other shit while this is healing. (Think we can all agree first aid in this game is a joke) Iron gut is also F tier that weak stomach is unironically a free perk. Alot of this list comes down to the fact u almost always take the other so it makes it impossible to get some of these higher rated traits. (Another thing is that Fit becomes really good because it allows you to go very underweight for minus 10 cant do this with athletic) Can take the minus two gain two fitness and fix ur weight in a week for a straight up plus 4 points.

[@Mattsi]

You may disagree with me here, but there's generally no reason to pile on negative traits JUST to stack up points. Yeah, I said it

[@randylahey4575]

@@Mattsi Have to get all the good perks.

[@Toshidochi]

@@Mattsi negative perks like smoker, thin skinned, weak stomach, pacifist, underweight, hearty appetite, high thrist, hell even conspicious, and clumsy are super easy to manage for the amount of cons they provide giving you points for +traits that counterbalace some of the -traits (-2 for outdoorsman to counteract +8 thinskinned which still gives you 6 points to spend) and also give you enough points to take the more important traits like athletic and strong because passive traits are a bitch to level up. especially since u dont have XP books for them.

[@Mattsi]

@@Toshidochi why do all this brain power when little brain power required to not do all this

[@blahblah8770]

I take Nutritionist every time. Fight me.

[@Mattsi]

I will and I'll win

[@Ice-dy6fi]

damn I thought this was an april fools joke XD

[@Universalaud]

*Base-ball player + Brawler* for long blunt build 🥺 Im level 6 long blunt with 4 strength and I 3 hit kill zombies 🥺🥺🥺🥺 1 months in Although I agree with fisher 💪

[@Universalaud]

I died 💀 in the mall, now I know i should have taken strong and athletic since long blunt takes far less longer to level up than strength or fitness and like, youd be level ten long blunt and level nine-ten strength (which makes you a one shot only Killing machine contrary to level 10 long blunt but level 5-6-7 strength ) faster if you pick strong right off the start rather than being feeble and having brawler and baseball player like I did

[@phineasgage8252]

Fishing was probably a troll pick, but fast healer? Who even cares, just dont break your legs and it doesnt matter at all. Wounds and infections doesnt matter one bit, you dont even have to change your bandages at all (as retanaru showed in a vid). Cook? You level it easily, especially with fast reader and life and living and VHS (you can watch the same show twice if you both watch it on TV and VHS) and you even said food is abundant anyway, no matter the playstyle really. Any weapon skill is good, maintenance included, so dont know why you are putting actual useful traits in D and F.

[@Mattsi]

Not a troll pick, I just like fishing :'( I don't remember where I ranked most of these, but fair points tbh This list isn't law or nothin', for now

[@STAIR_WAY14]

Wait is it possible to lose fitness levels??? Pls someone tell me since I am still a new player

[@Mattsi]

I have no idea, but I think... Possibly???

[@DerAva]

35 minutes seems like a lot of time for a meme tier list, but I can respect the commitment

[@Mattsi]

It's not a meme, I'm just funny :^)

[@asdowo111]

Gotta pump those KZbin ad revenues

[@Mattsi]

@@asdowo111 If I was doing that I'd have made a Zomboid Iceberg video :^)

[@SgtEmissary]

I agree with you on a few things here, especially when it comes to Slow and Fast Reader. People forget that your character is still gonna read slower in terms of the in-game time. 30% is a big deal considering it already takes enough time to read a book as it is. It takes like half a day to do that and they think Slow Reader is a good idea? No it's not. For that you are based. If you got the points left-over to grab Fast Reader then just do it. It's not a trait I would pick all the time but if I got enough for it then sure. Otherwise I prefer picking Cat's Eyes, Wakeful, Outdoorsman for those two points. Slow Reader is absolute trash tier and for 2 points it's not a worthy trade off. I could see a case being made for it if the percent was a little lower and gave you more points for taking it because time is a precious commodity. Thick Skin yeah, I know what you mean by those guys. Saying 'Git gud' isn't constructive advice so this is how I would word it: in a game where you still have a 25% chance of getting infected makes Thick Skin pretty redundant and not worth the 8 points. So I don't take it. It's a trap.

[@marcodayoub1920]

Thick skinned is trash oh cool i avoided dmg wait why cant i move? Then i just get bite again

[@MaytayMaya]

"I play Pokemmo on my off-time" Listen to him guys, fishing is the best way to fucking GRIND levels on your Pokémon.

[@Mattsi]

I'M DIGGING FOR A SHINY DRATINI IM LOSING MY MIND

[@catkook543]

4:07 just becuse of that, kinda tempted to grab baseball player

[@Josukegaming]

Not very informed opinions, not really that helpful. Retanaru clearly puts way more effort into his traits analysis. Doing actual tests in game would show that a lot of traits don't actually do what they say would make this a lot better of a video.

[@whitecraft1012]

Bro graduated from Spiffo's restaurant. Aaaaand you probably won't have the energy to respond this one, because you should have taken the wakeful trait instead, lmao

[@Mattsi]

I may be sleepy, but I'm also tired

[@lazerpie101]

The trick to passive skill traits (fit, stout, etc.) is to get a bunch of food and painkillers, run to some secluded 2 story building and grind. Start with obese, as you will be losing weigh doing this.

[@WestinsChannel]

Nutritionalist will also tell you what berries/ mushrooms, etc are posionus.

[@ishavsethi9347]

alternate title: how to squeeze 35 minutes out of 10 minutes worth of content

[@830Video]

"That's not very Christian of me" Based Subscribed

[@Mattsi]

Ayo, thank you for watching that far into the video, goodness 🤣

[@Oroberus]

Mhmm okay yeah but ... what traits should I take?

[@Mattsi]

Whichever ones you think sound neat, man. I've not played the game in a long time though :')

[@themudpit621]

With Fast reader I can read ALL THREE skill books in a day BEFORE the tv shows. 2 points. I'm always a graceful gymnast stout very skinny park ranger with keeeeen hearing. In sneakers. I take inconspicuous too, seems to work for me unless I put army boots on. stomp stomp stomp.

[@Conflictedhots]

It blows my mind that you undervalue the weapon boosting traits so much. Those extra points can absolutely be the difference between living and dying, especially early. Plus the xp boost keeps getting value the whole playthrough. Cook in B tier is really dumb. Your take on thick skinned is also really flawed. I don't think you understand how the numbers work on that trait lol

[@DetectiveSmilez]

Bro goes against himself ☠️ says first 30 days are important and gets fast reader but gets sleepyhead and not wakeful. cuttin your days short that you could be spending reading other than that pretty good

[@Mattsi]

I'm a sleepy guy

[@EagerPlanes341]

Thanks for the video I found the best trait ever, baseball player!

[@Mattsi]

I'm so glad you found a trait for you! :D

[@sonofsomerset1695]

You dont gain the fitness buff unless you take it from the start, you will get the icon but not the buff when you level to 9, same with the strong trait and buff.

[@left4ban]

why the eagel doin a bro fist

[@Mattsi]

He's just so based

[@DiamondKingVideos]

Why do you have to fish? Arent there like 5 or 6 ways to collect food? I dont get it... why is angler a must???

[@Mattsi]

Love me some fishing

[@DiamondKingVideos]

@@Mattsi alright man, can't argue with that I guess

[@lolguy9941]

4:28 I did take this trait when me and my friend were doing a challenge to try to survive as either our classmates or ourselves cause it fit one of my classmates

[@chupetaparamahboy]

i love runner

[@Mattsi]

I love Edgerunners

[@spaziotempomagico71]

Herbalist missing😢 how would you rate it?

[@Mattsi]

Buhhhhhh herbalist, not bad. If it is what I think it is I use it for wilderness runs... I think it'd go in A or B, not a bad trait iirc

[@jacobely6826]

@@Mattsi wait wait wait. you put brave in C because a mod lets you earn it, but herbalist in A / B when there's a BOOK in the vanilla game that gives you the trait? i mean you can literally just go to the nearby school library and get it within the first week 9/10 times

[@YM-zf8mt]

in the best case scenario thick skinned gives you +5% chance of not getting injured or +12% chance compared to thin skinned it costs 8 points for a 5% chance of not getting injured in scenario where, you either are getting swarmed and you'll die OR you get ONE injury and will survive with or without it on the contrary i would argue that thin skinned by only reducing by 7% (in the absolute worst case, usually it's more 3-4%) your chance of not getting injured is an auto pick because you get +8 points for a ridiculously slim chance of saving yourself if you take thick skinned you can't take thin skinned, which is an autopick, which means it costs you 16 points for AT MAXIMUM +12% chance of not receiving a wound (and usualy more around 6%) in other terms : 16 POINTS for a 6% chance of avoiding ONE WOUND this is F tier foolish

[@Azorthis303]

"Always take it.. I'm not wrong" xD Had to sub after this hilarious video, lol. Really enjoyed it, plus always nice to learn a couple new things. Would love to see a similar video but for negative traits, maybe also with some occupation preferences too. Great job man!

[@Mattsi]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video, man! I'll likely work on a companion video soon ☺️

[@Spyro2292]

But I do avoid injury. very very well. I exclusively play with my friend, and whenever one of us gets bitten regardless of how far in we are? we reset. Me? I never get bitten. Hell I only get scratched MAYBE once a playthrough, which is usually on a tree or fence. So fight me I take thin skinned. No regrets.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

I'm with you on Fast Reader

[@Mattsi]

BASED

[@KwBeee]

I love your personality. I love Pokemmo too! Wish you the best luck on your channel, hopefully the algorithm picks you up soon. I just downloaded Zomboid so I'm ready to suffer

[@themaddoctor5304]

I know you said never to take baseball player....but...if I'm making a character in project zomboid based off a real life friend of mine AND he plays baseball....then can I take Baseball Player?

[@Mattsi]

Homie, you can take all the traits I put in F tier - I'm not making any laws or nothing 😂 Lemme know how the run goes!! :D

[@themaddoctor5304]

@@Mattsi Alright, because I really like roleplaying as different people. So I don't necessarily pick traits for the sole purpose of survival, because at the end of the day, I'm going to die regardless

[@Mattsi]

@@themaddoctor5304 absolutely, man. I'm not the final authority on the game, and if anyone rips on you for your traits they're mad goofy

[@themudpit621]

@@Mattsi you're not the final authority... yet....

[@Csaszarcsaba1]

-Talks about saving time with fast reader -Usually takes sleepyhead in negative traits, and puts wakeful in filler What? You save WAAAAAAAY more time with wakeful than with fast reader for the same amount of points. I'm sorry, but I'm gonna be mean this time, your view on that is self contradicting, and trash.

[@plebasusual6336]

Dude you nailed this. I was so dumbfounded at some of the other trait rate videos, but yours is spot on. Thanks so much for this!

[@Mattsi]

Glad it was helpful! Some of these are absolutely memes or specific to me, but it eez what it eez

[@gohstudio8012]

I'd put those traits like baseball player, brawler etc to filler. Once my 20 traits build is complete and i have 8 points overtop, why wouldnt i drop there some exp bonus to some weapon types? Honest opinion.

[@gohstudio8012]

Also about fast reader. Once you are experienced enough, the time management feels not really important. As I have half thousand hours, I just don't care about that I miss out electricity, does not affect me at all lmao. So I would myself still pick slow reader overthat anyway.

[@nile2566]

I am against half of what I just watched

[@Mattsi]

That's fair, what's important is how's your day going?

[@nile2566]

@@Mattsi been great thank you!

[@Mattsi]

I'm glad to hear that, hope it keeps on like that :D

[@nojustno334]

I take slow reader because I am a masochist that likes to be slow

[@Becher1]

bro puts angler S tier but athletic A tier...

[@Mattsi]

Yessir

[@NeosDany]

For me it is: Tier SSS (Broken): Wakeful, Cat's eyes Tier S (Best perks): Dextrous, Keen hearing, Light eater Tier A (Very strong): Brave, Low thirst, Lucky, Organized, Thick skinned Tier B (Usable): Eagle eyed, Fast reader, Graceful, Inconspicuous Tier C (Meh): Adrenaline junkie Tier D (Not good): Fast learner Tier F (Waste of points): Athletic, Fast healer, Fit, Iron gut, Outdoorsman, Resilient, Speed demon, Stout, Strong

[@Mattsi]

I can't really get behind where you put fast learner or most of your bottom tier, tbh, but that's not a problem. Thanks for sharing your list, man :D

[@sayarce69]

Opinion invalid low thirst is trash because you can stack waterbottles amd baseball player is good because you can kill zombies better and faster with argueably the best weapon type

[@Mattsi]

No u