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[@shinecomics]

GO BUY PUBLIC DOMAIN BY CHIP ZDARSKY!

[@LowellLucasJr.]

@@shinecomics I gotta buy this book!!!

[@blobfishman977]

Bro you gotta fix your mic I feel like you're standing right behind me

[@TheFunnyDictator]

​@@blobfishman977 Is that a bad thing or a good thing, bruh, dude?

[@TheFunnyDictator]

​​@@blobfishman977Also, what does that bio mean, bruh, dude?!

[@blobfishman977]

@@TheFunnyDictator not so good because your cutting in and out of both

[@YumeArtysie]

This why we get so happy when an actor confesses they're a fan of the character they're playing

[@WilyGryphon]

The sort of passion like Henry Cavill gushing about Superman stories, or the dedication of Jon Bernthal walking into a comic book store and going "I'm going to be playing The Punisher. What comics should I read to really understand and nail the character?"

[@crown4212]

​@@WilyGryphonI know Tom Hiddleston read up on his character in the comics and mythology so there's him as well

[@Perdix64]

@@YumeArtysie that’s why I was happy Channing Tatum and Ryan Reynolds were playing as Gambit and Deadpool respectively since they’re both fans of the two characters. Both were pushing for solo films of the two.

[@Allycat-VA182]

@@YumeArtysie I know Andrew Garfield did the same fanboying as all of them too.

[@theflyingkitty13]

@@YumeArtysie I think I read somewhere or head that Toby read 100+ issues of the OG Spider-Man comics too

[@nathanhernandez1126]

Bill finger and batman

[@KamenStreamer]

I was gonna say the same thing

[@skits2240]

Great example

[@Christian_H3rnand3z]

*YES!!!!!!* I heard that he died poor. Not a lot of people even know about him.

[@skits2240]

@@Christian_H3rnand3z it's good at least some people know now

[@alexvaldelamarbustamante3835]

who? :(

[@gp-1542]

Moral of the story Get a lawyer, a good lawyer

[@JoaoMarquinhoooooooos]

BETTER CALL SAUL!

[@vihuynhquang5204]

And a gun

[@jestyo0o]

@@JoaoMarquinhoooooooos I instantly knew there was gonna be reply like this lmao

[@Mysweetdoppio]

A Good(man) lawyer, I would say

[@TheSalemCrow]

A better idea would be to NOT work for any of the big companies who own anything you create (DC/Marvel). With Image you get to keep the rights, but you'd still need a good lawyer if you wanted it adapted into anything past comics.

[@miguelperez9906]

Didn’t the guy who made the Thor movies say he hadn’t even read Thor comics at all. So this really fits.

[@paladinluke37]

Which one? There's been three directiors

[@elmisfit09]

​@@paladinluke37 Taika, he said je tried to read one but full asleep, and that he doesn't care about Norse mythology nor culture

[@afro4640]

@@elmisfit09 It shows.

[@tacotuttle]

@@elmisfit09 Jesus, why would he ever even admit to that

[@shoopydoopy6062]

@@elmisfit09 that’s so based to admit that

[@alejandrogonzalez00]

This needs to be adapted into either a movie or a tv series so that it can be seen everywhere to how comic creators have been treated for the longest time

[@BalancedtheScales]

That the actors and director won’t care about and then botch the message to put themselves in a better light

[@alejandrogonzalez00]

@@BalancedtheScales then I guess they’d hav to find the right people who would actually care about making it

[@BalancedtheScales]

@@alejandrogonzalez00 I guess I just don’t have that much hope in film media right now

[@alejandrogonzalez00]

@@BalancedtheScales I know what you mean man

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Hollywood would do everything in their power to prevent production

[@isabellebread9773]

Jack Kirby, Steve ditko

[@Kind_of_Human]

Thank u I thought I wouldn't see Steve here he fr the goat

[@EEAEE616]

Until ditko read those ayn rand thingies

[@dolier2802]

@@EEAEE616 That's really irrelevant to his involvement in the creation of Spider-Man and Doctor Strange

[@YIOMMI-oo5yb]

didn't he plotted That protesters issue?

[@edgonlo17]

You mean the issue where he didn’t care about the protesters? Also Didn’t Romita SR era did almost the same?

[@D3A7h518]

Steve Ditko comes to mind, being a vital part of the industry but in life he never really got what he deserved or even wanted until he went indie, but even that was more of an underground thing away from all the glitz and glamour of his former repute

[@freehamm]

he also had a thing for femdom and incorporated it into the comics

[@edgarsalazar5521]

To be fair Steve really didn’t speak much he just let his work speak for itself and even when offered money for the Spider-Man films he declined it now does have to do with anything no clue just wanted to add this

[@D3A7h518]

@@edgarsalazar5521 that’s true but there’s more to it. Him not taking money from the movies probably a byproduct of him not checking checks he got from spider-man back when he was writhing him, plus him not publicly speaking has to do with Objectivism’s view of art, that being that the artist shouldn’t have explain one’s art, let it speak for it self. And he carried that out further than even it’s own creator

[@14DANESSJ]

Atleast Stan Lee acknowledged him. Unlike Bob Kane

[@edgarsalazar5521]

@@14DANESSJ well kinda Stan still considers himself as sole creator because he had the idea but yeah bob kane is real way worse

[@living_migz]

Spiderman was not a good example we all cried when Stan Lee died

[@stephonmanny7555]

He had to sued marvel in 2002 because they weren’t paying his share from the movies.

[@AmphotericcMike]

It's not that people dislike/dont care about him, its about the fact that he among other writers often get shafted on their own creations, losing rights, profit or even acknowledgement from the big corporations outside of maybe a cameo or big event

[@hoodlum4511]

How about Steve ditko?

[@stephonmanny7555]

Apparently he was abused in his last years of life by his business partners according to his family.

[@That_Web_Guy1810]

The Irony that you didn’t mention Steve Ditko. 😔

[@marvellexikon8843]

RIP Bill Finger😢

[@Marksman_12]

May he be at peace.

[@RichardWilliams-zb4eo]

This is a pretty true comic. And here's a real view on the realistic aspects of this. When Hugh Jackman was asked to play Wolverine, he thought he was literally going to be an animal. He showed app and he didn't even know who Wolverine from the x men was yet. He continued to play the character, not knowing who this popular character was that was around way before his career and made his career. True story

[@andreimario5632]

@@RichardWilliams-zb4eo yes, except Hugh Jackman actually cares about Wolverine now, and has grown fond of him

[@ginogatash4030]

I really dont see the ussue with him not knowing Wolverine, like directors are there for a reason, you don't need to research and study decades of publication to get ready for the role, it certainly helps if you got that knowledge, but I don't agree with the notion that everyone on a production needs to be fan of the material adapted, being a fan doesn't mean you automatically know how to tell a good story, or even understand the character you're a fan of, Spiderman Lotus is painful proof of this. At the end of the day it's a creative process, and professionalism and creativity are the most important, a wikipedia knowledge of the source material for the sake of fan service alone is worthless, some of the best movies aren't that faithful of an adaptation but still rock, plus current superhero adaptations tend to suck because of all the money in the industry, every producer wants to ensure it sells and end up suffocating the project with bad decisions in serve of profit.

[@chimera9818]

@@RichardWilliams-zb4eo well in the end he is considered one of the best casting for a character

[@theGhostSteward]

​@ginogatash4030 yes and no... like... I don't have much formal study in theater but it's enough experience to know how much teather actors care about the characters. Maybe the reason is how many times they do the same character and expose themselves to it (you definitely see this in some works from Hugh Jackman such as les Miserables and the Greatest showman). But with hero movies it's seems like the show biss people tell: they just go to the gym, put a coolant and show up...

[@ginogatash4030]

@@theGhostSteward well I don't know what you expect, getting trained in theatre means you learn shit about theatre and famous plays meaning they're likely to be into theatre stuff more, though they still obviously can fall in love with superhero roles too, and if not for the series for the acting job at least. It's like being surprised at superhero comicbook writers and artists being absolute nerds of Marvel and DC stuff while knowing nothing about manga and anime, it's not impossible to be into both but most creatives are just more likely to enjoy stuff relative to their specialization than other stuff.

[@MichaelJEngelmann]

I’m a bigger DC guy than Marvel but I loved both since a kid. When Stan Lee died & his daughter said Disney didn’t treat him good, other fans said Disney did treat him good because they put him in their movies. They wouldn’t have those movies if it weren’t for him & others. And just bc they publicly loved him doesn’t mean he was always treated that way. A multi billion dollar company I can easily see them having a show pony but behind closed doors they treat them less than dirt. I can see that.

[@Joey-vs4fr]

I heard from a KZbinr called Charles Peralo that even his own daughter overworked him Did you mistype something

[@Inventorcoyote]

I wouldn’t trust the word of Stanley’s daughter she has done some pretty horrible things with her father’s fame and status while he was alive

[@Joey-vs4fr]

@@MichaelJEngelmann excuse me, I was just asking if you mistyped something, because that’s certainly not what I heard What makes you think we’re bots

[@Joey-vs4fr]

@@MichaelJEngelmann what’s with you calling us bots

[@Joey-vs4fr]

@@MichaelJEngelmann 🙄

[@jtjelani]

The sad reality of the relationship between comics and Hollywood makes me incredibly grateful for actors like Downey, Hamill, Boseman, and even those dudes who made Clone High and now work on Spider-verse because their projects would be NOTHING without them and others actually respecting and loving the stories they build on

[@SketchIsBored]

Superman is the best example of this

[@lukefortune8314]

how. i do wonder

[@dumbly-stupid]

@lukefortune8314 superman was bought for only $2,814 (that's counting for inflation since 1938) and the creators were reaped of royalties

[@FLAMEBERGE-LCB]

@@lukefortune8314 Kid named Injustice Superman:

[@GloriousSquizoKing.]

@@lukefortune8314 Just look at most of the popular series today. The Boys and Invencible, even Injustice Superman are main examples we have of people taking a "piece" of the idea of Superman and just making it dark and edgy.

[@adarshsridhar6051]

@@GloriousSquizoKing.That’s different, it’s taking the idea of Superman and twisting it and showing a different way to portray him. It’s not actually having him, in his original form, in that way. The injustice Superman is an AU of him. Invincible and boys aren’t even in the same continuity.

[@BeorOng]

Actors who actually loved comics and pushed back on producers made their characters more iconic and loved in the end - henry cavills superman, ryan reynolds deadpool, all 3 spidermen, and im gonna throw in inaki godoy as luffy as a manga adaption...when a character is actually treated the way it deserves those adaptions have done well cause it lives up to expectations

[@GuiltlessGear]

Thanks for shining a spotlight on this.

[@shinecomics]

No problem man!

[@darthazgorath9570]

I can't remember if it was Joe Schuster for Jerry Siegel that this story is referring to, but after selling the rights to Superman, one of them was found as a bellow minimum wage usher at a New York movie theater showing Richard Donner's Superman movie.

[@ExemAwkan]

@@darthazgorath9570 damn that's got to hurt

[@edgarsalazar5521]

No they were paid for the flocks by that time but yeah they were fucked over

[@DanyTV79]

@@darthazgorath9570 one worked in a dinner, the other in was almost blind living with his sister. Neal Adams told that story.

[@darthazgorath9570]

@DanyTV79 a truly sad stroy, it was too

[@salimstibbsstibbs9354]

Superman sitting in the corner like he wasn’t the first and most known hero ever

[@T_Dragon7777]

What about The Phantom? He was made before Superman.

[@TakeMinamoto]

@@T_Dragon7777 as much as I love that people call attention to The Phantom, as he was the progenitor of many tropes we now associate to comic book heroes (tight bodysuit with trunks, domino mask with white eyes), it was Superman the one that exploded in popularity and established the super hero genre as we know it

[@T_Dragon7777]

@@TakeMinamoto agreed. But we can’t forget The Phantom.

[@Another_Hibiki]

Golden Bat predates Superman by 8 years and Phantom by 6, making his debut on traveling shows... even if he is not as popular as Superman (outside of Japan).

[@noonerulesmeBLUD]

@@salimstibbsstibbs9354 what about golden bat? He was literally the first

[@popeye697]

Steve Ditko. Jack Kirby is a close second. Jack is the one who actually designed Spidermans costume

[@fadillah6014]

Artist really can't get rest didnt they

[@dr.ludvigmaxis2636]

What?

[@Til_I_Collapse]

@@dr.ludvigmaxis2636 Huh?!

[@fadillah6014]

@@dr.ludvigmaxis2636 I meant isn't that clear enough? From past till now they either had miserable life or straight up exploited.

[@micahchaplin536]

@@Til_I_Collapse I think they are referring to the terrible grammar.

[@fadillah6014]

@@micahchaplin536 is my grammar really that bad? How should I typed it to make it better?

[@skits2240]

Bill Finger

[@Batvengence66]

I was going to say the same thing

[@skits2240]

@@Batvengence66 I'm glad people know his name now

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Kid named Finger:

[@Slicey1]

ahh good ol’ chip zdarsky always makin the best comics

[@MoroccanRose85]

And this is why Image comics was created. Shoutout to Wildstorm.

[@shinecomics]

FULL VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL!

[@Deimosviva]

Now imagine some talentless hacks make a raceswaped knock off of said character and morons like you eat it up 🤡

[@miekwavesoundlab]

Which video tit le?

[@SkipHooper]

Thats why Todd is smart he keeps every rights to Spawn.

[@Deimosviva]

Now imagine they make a diverse knock off and an overweight moron glazes them constantly.

[@Nord_Meadly]

@@shinecomics where would I find this I don’t live near a comic store anymore so do you have any online suggestions?

[@Noobnormality]

Heroes really had it rough these days, even the people i know would favor ridiculously comical characters for the sake of shock value over those that actually inspire.

[@kamenrideruniter4503]

Marvel to stan lee in a nutshell:

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

@@kamenrideruniter4503 more Like Marvel And DC To Jake Kirby

[@ginogatash4030]

What the fuck are you talking about? They've had the man cameo in near every film and he got mega rich, if anything this describes gis collaborators who got shafted like Jack Kirbi or Steve Ditko.

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

@@ginogatash4030 yes

[@reynaldolima5171]

Stan Lee to dikto and kirby

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

@@reynaldolima5171 true Ture

[@silverbane266]

This is pretty much accurate which does saddens me.

[@ShatteredQvartz]

Funnily enough, it's IP retention and hoarding, and not entering the Public Domain what is doing this to characters

[@reddytoplay9188]

yeah idk if the author named it public domain because it is more catchy or he just doesn't understand the problem and thinks selling your IP to a business is public domain

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

Most fans don’t even care about the creators or the people who do the work. It’s the nature of consumerism.

[@joserobertosolismerlin5527]

@@AzathothTheTrueGod I care

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

@@joserobertosolismerlin5527 Good. My point remains though. People claim ownership of things they’re fans of and then get mad when it’s not specifically for them.

[@Another_Hibiki]

​@@AzathothTheTrueGodExcept for some of Star Wars and Indiana Jones, i generally only see it happening as you described when there is a new writter trashing on the creator's original vision that so many fans became fond (something that is one of the points of the comic from this shorts), specially if it is politically motivated.

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

@@Another_Hibiki I disagree because people get mad that X-Men is “woke” when the original vision was ALWAYS an allegory for discriminated people. Not a great one because the X-Men have powers that could easily kill large groups of people but still. Punisher always hated seeing cops with his logo because as he says “that’s not for people who are supposed to be good”. Yet people still get mad when you mention that even though it’s the writers vision. He’s aware of who he is and that he’s not a “good guy”. If Superman came out today he’d be called woke because he was made by two Jewish immigrants who wished for a hero that would stop all the bigotry and inspire people to be the best of humanity. He even for a time renounced his citizenship when there were some Luthor shenanigans. People got mad when Captain America said he sees all Americans as equal and wasn’t a warmonger with an “ends justify the means” mentality”. When Falcon became his sidekick people said it was pandering. When he didn’t want illegals to be harmed people got upset even though he mentioned why the immigration process is at times sluggish. When he changed his costume people said he was “siding with illegals” because it looked kinda like Puerto Rican flag with the chevrons. And when he was killed during Civil War people said it was to insult the US. Comics in general go through constant changes, retcons, reboots, revivals, deaths etc and fans today get too angry about it. A lot of the edgy extreme 90s redesigns from when I was a kid were hated. Punisher died twice, was an Angel, a magic wielder, and when he was killed by Wolverines son was put back together as “Frank-N-Castle”. People forget that some folks had issues with Storm and Colossus when they came out. Because Storm was black, and Colossus was a Russian who everyone thought would make the XMen commies. People had an issue with Miles Morales for being black and Hispanic. It’s why people say “this isn’t MY Marvel/DC” because they demand ownership and don’t want anyone else to do the same. People take it way too seriously and think any change or disagreement is a personal attack. When it comes to the movies those are made ENTIRELY to cater to younger people and make money. People pretend like they’re the comics and are meant for those in their 30s-40s. Same with Star Wars. We liked them as kids. Hell people are upset that POKÉMON is “too easy now” and not that they played them as literal CHILDREN with child brains. They aren’t meant for adults but they can play them if they want. That’s what I’m getting at. I understand when things are market tested to hit the quadrants and have to have a checklist of ethnicity, sexuality, body type, sex. But that’s been around since Captain Planet. It’s just much more blatant to an insulting degree.

[@AzathothTheTrueGod]

@@Another_Hibiki Sorry for the long message. But I thought you deserved a substantial answer with full context. I know that’s not everyone btw. Nor am I saying anyone with any issue is wrong. Many criticisms are valid just wrong when they feel personally hurt.

[@kevinruddock6837]

Soooooooo basically Disney

[@2024aamaandilnaanchozhan]

Cavill and Hiddleston are such a gem of comic movie actors.

[@asaknight321]

I need everyone at Warner bros and Disney especially at star wars and marvel to see this: You either pay respect to the thing you're working on, to the fans, to the OG creator, and for actors to do justice to the characters they're playing as or using or you get the hell out. Unfortunately warner bros and Disney have lost that golden rule

[@vihuynhquang5204]

Lost, or deliberately ignored?

[@tabaributler2225]

@@asaknight321 lately all the stories that I hear about how works get ruined by corporation greed have made me feel like the fans, original artists or someone should start a large boycott on corporations until they get it through their thick skulls that you can't just be in it for the money, you're also doing it for people who take an interest in your stuff.

[@tantheman4512]

Mostly Disney

[@orangeyellow-me1pz]

I dont know, ryan seems to be doing an amazing job as dead pool.

[@IMachineHeadI]

There’s always exceptions

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Ryan’s the exception

[@HectorPryorYT]

Ryan's great

[@martialedits4335]

Deadpool not the best example. Ryan's not truly playing the hollow, cheap knock off character Rob Liefeild created more so the Joe Kelly and later writer and artists interpretations of the character.

[@amphere9147]

There's Ryan and Henry cavil

[@HypedHazard456]

Meanwhile, the opposite is the case for mangas. Fans care a little too much for the creators

[@GottaBGlitches]

"Superhero movies are our modern mythology" could've sworn I heard that line before somewhere.

[@sandflame5811]

This is why I am grateful that Twitter exists, you can publish your work yourself, yes you may not have that many followers but you will have some and that is already a start

[@Groggle7141]

Why'd you use an AI Spider-Man at the beginning?

[@user-br4rx9vl4g]

which one?

[@miningfordiamonds7978]

Some superheroes/villains this has happened to/happening to The flash and most of his villains Green arrow Dr fate Green lantern Batman Hulk Jane foster Scarlet witch Ant-man She-hulk Thor Harley quinn Joker Black widow Fantastic four Iron fist Captain marvel QuickSilver Dr. Doom Luke cage Superman Deadshot Black Adam Killmonger Aquaman Suicide Squad Superheroes/villains that have remained their integrity (imo) Spiderman Dr strange- for now Darkseid Thanos Guardians of the galaxy Black Panther Captain America Xmen except for the apocalypse movie Mr. Freeze Poison ivy Deadpool Wolverine Huntress Question Ra’s’al ghul Doomsday Lex luthor Jason todd Nightwing Damian Iron man Daredevil Punisher Loki Odin Hel Gorr

[@bepisthescienceman4202]

Wdym?

[@miningfordiamonds7978]

@@bepisthescienceman4202 you want me to explain every character here? Pick a few and i’ll explain from there

[@bepisthescienceman4202]

@@miningfordiamonds7978 no I just mean what do you mean

[@miningfordiamonds7978]

@@bepisthescienceman4202the video speaks about other creators ruining a superhero’s/villain’s reputation by either a shit comic or movie based on those characters. Like Joker is overused in comics and in movies, there is no reason to force Joker in on everything batman. Jared leto Joker ruined the joker, the game ruined him, the comics ruined him and it’s a fucking meme now where he is the jonkler since no one takes him serious anymore as what was an originally good character. I listed those superheroes/villains the same shit has happened to as the joker where their reputation is ruined by something fucking stupid. The 2nd list are characters i believe to be to their original spirit and made with love for the characters.

[@bepisthescienceman4202]

@@miningfordiamonds7978 not really what the video is about the comic is more about the artist who made them and how they get shafted the movie could be the best in the world but it wouldn't matter cause what matters most if the original creator id given their time in the spotlight and the money

[@DahGabriel-gk2cr]

An example is Superman

[@kacpermazurek4563]

Also Dan Slott's Superior Spider-Man.

[@sitthefreakdownboi1873]

I mean we did get The Batman(2022) and we are soon getting Spider-man 4 in the MCU and on the plus side did you know that Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man is the closest we have on a live action comic accurate Spider-Man

[@marcussantos188]

Second time I’ve seen someone talk about this indie comic and maybe this will be the third one I give a shot.

[@shinecomics]

PLEASE READ IT!!! I have a full video on my channel that talks more about the plot and stuff. Its really good!

[@russellharrell2747]

Well, when the creators chose to go independent and formed Image all we got were edgy 90s super heroes. Even in the 80s we got dark and edgy Batman from Miller or the Charlton comics expys The Watchmen, but this and other examples were praised at the time and are now still held up as high art. The larger pattern is that Superheroes as a genre only seemed wholesome and sanitized during the Silver age when the Comics Code was first put into effect. Previously, Golden Age heroes were violent and dogmatic, only giving way in popularity to romance, horror, western and sci fi comics in the post war years. And as soon as the comics code was relaxed in the 70s we saw a return to the grittier side of super heroes, which continued throughout the dark 80s, the extreme 90s, and into the post 911 world that has permeated the 21st century. This video and the comic it presents has a grain of truth but seems to be ignorant of the overall history of comics and super heroes in general.

[@MOJUTMNT]

Then Ryan Reynolds came into the scene... though he did kill off Deadpool's girlfriend making her refrigerator girl.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

This is why Indie Entertainment is the Future.

[@thedarkpixel6087]

I don't think using AI in the video helps getting the respect for creators point across, seems contradictory, if you value artists and creators who put their soul on characters and Art don't use AI

[@RjGoombes]

Exactly what i was thinking.

[@diffish2701]

The Love and passion of art is not the desire and want for fame and wealth

[@Nosinnik]

Just so you know the blunder bus (or whatever it is called) projectiles spread so the closer you get to your target the more projectiles will hit it and the more damage you will do. each one of the projectiles do 10 damage so it can do up to 100 damage

[@kos2919]

The worst part these hero characters don't even go into public domain yet. It's still copyrighted but belong to the company and not creator. This is why manga is better. It's very rare to see them change the writers and artists.

[@jk7102]

Dragon Ball evolution... RIP Toriyama...the actor who played Goku apologized for messing it up😢

[@AstraFulminous]

Nah it wasn't Justin. He actually read up on the material. It was the script writer who apologized, because he had rushed the film ,and even then he had only gotten the job because Fox tried to maintain their rights for a film and didn't care how. And even then when he had turned in a better script closer to the original Fox kept turning them down. Leading to no one caring for Toriyama's view on set. And as a result a horrible film. Later the english voice actor for Zamasu, who had also read up on DB and also played Piccolo in Evolution it was explained by English Voice Cas for the Anime how he also apologized in his own way and took on the role of Zamasu for free because he wanted to make it back to the fans. The resulting poor treatment of Dragon Ball via Evolution is also what went on to motivate Toriyama into creating Dragon Ball Super citing that he had grown more attached to Dragon Ball than he thought and how he wanted to see it done right.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

​​@@AstraFulminousJustin Chatwin recently apologized after Toriyama died

[@mrlgreenthunder7138]

I get that a lot of actors and directors of the movies don’t care, but at least it’s not true for all of them. Some actors and directors are huge fans of the movies and series they create, and I think that shows.

[@YoSolo7]

That’s why I’m glad that things like deadpool are coming out now that stay faithful to the comics

[@Missingno_Fan]

That's why Deadpool 2016 is such a good movie translation, Ryan was trying to make a Deadpool movie for so long because it felt like he actually cares for the comic book character

[@daviddalton6094]

Sounds like Hollywood

[@chis-ee9eo]

This show comic are being run down by greedy people who are in charge how big company who make too much money well disrespected Creator and fan base just because they rich

[@Christian_H3rnand3z]

This is underrated.

[@Marvel_Sheild-agent]

This is why I watch the older Marvel movies (also other superhero movies) because those creators and directors actually had some respect for the comics and hero’s. Of course some things had to be changed for filming purposes but they did it in a respectful way. (R.I.P. Stan Lee, you were the best)

[@silentshadowish]

everyone knew who stan lee was, at least the comic community

[@sergio1753]

What about Steve ditko?

[@HELLO_KORO]

Yet they don't know Chris Claremont who introduced everything that made the X men iconic and a bigotry allegory or Steve Ditko who introduced Spider-Mans iconic self loathing

[@Swerv0.]

But does everyone know all the other names that goes into making characters like that?

[@thegoldennoob108]

Moral of the story, be like Ryan Reynolds and actually care about the role you play

[@ergietalks]

sounds like he needs a really good lawyer.

[@user-nh1lp2td7c]

We needed this. Public domain is something that doesn't need to exist!

[@silentnight3192]

In other words, Modern Hollywood?

[@HovektheArtist]

People mention steve ditko and jack kirby, the men known as gods in the industry, but nobody is mentioning bill finger the true creative creator of batman that was shafted and forgotten due to the actions of the creative partner bob kane to the point that bill finger died destitute and unknown while kane was sitting on millions

[@ethandodson507]

Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster of Superman, Bill Finger of Batman, Steve Ditko of Spider-man, the list goes on and on and on.

[@Zminator1986]

Sounds like what Disney and Warner Bros are doing nowadays.

[@Ultras_450]

That's the difference between Manga and comic book authors

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

I mean we don't know if the people that direct the anime always read the manga, let alone the people that make the live action adaptations

[@Ultras_450]

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 most directors read the source material and keep in touch with the mangakq

[@ryanafriansyah7487]

​@@ChangedMyNameFinally69Plus, there's a lot of news about how mangaka and animators are treated badly too

[@TaddyDoMau]

there's not so much difference tbh both suffer by the industry

[@LaPtaVerdad]

Bro this is brutal!

[@midnight_dusk6574]

There are ppl like Mark Hamill ,who plays the Witcher , who care about their role and I understand that you're not putting those actors down ,your shorts come through my feed a lot and they're really informative most times

[@ethanharvey576]

The guy who played Punisher read a few comics after getting the role.

[@ashurarts7825]

that's why manga or solo running series are better most of the time from both writers perspective and consistency "not saying it's bad if someone else wrote it the story can be good af but i can assure you iver time it won't be consistent nor as visioned by the writer no matter what you do"

[@joshjo9405]

And then there's localization that pulls the same bullshit that comics go through.

[@The_Evening_Sun]

Though manga definitely has it's own issues with weekly manga having crazy deadlines that leave no room for personal life continuously and the fact that in many action magazines you aren't able to have proper slow moments and downtime for fear of your series dropping in popularity and getting axed. When it's just one writer and they can't take long breaks until they've hit it big big, that wears on a person and can drop the quality in its own way as opposed to multiple authors who only have to lock in for their run.

[@ashurarts7825]

@@The_Evening_Sun those aren't plot related issues if we count non plot related issues then there comes a lot more in comics with multiple writers and big franchisee such as producers and editors have major control on comics than manga and creative liberty is limited as it's not only your own comic but a work of others as well

[@The_Evening_Sun]

@@ashurarts7825 those are plot related issues. Many series had sudden drops in quality or had some really had storylines because the author was suffering burnout. It also impacts the flow of many series as many of them try and have constant action, and often struggle with slow moments with character development as they're afraid doing chapters like that will get them axed.

[@ashurarts7825]

@@The_Evening_Sun i guess you are judging from a similar type genre of manga the amount of manga that has this issue are usual shonen or seinen and even only some of em have this yes hiatus exist and i think it's for the better quality over quantity but you should read the vast majority of other genre as well there are more manga with none of such issue than the one that have this issue also this issue is face with comics too many comic issue are rushed because the editorial timeline and less no. page issue also many comics have the issue of writer vs artist biased as not everytime the artist is the same aa writer and can't completely convey his idea in comics directly

[@tootallforyou112]

It's very depressing but extremely realistic

[@Un039]

When I was younger my aunt's house had Spiderman curtains

[@sarmadhabibkhan3036]

Spiderman and Batman. They turned the friendly neighbourhood Spiderman into Sneako and they turned The Dark Knight, a symbol of justice, hope, humility and vengeance into an overpowered brooding emo rich guy who just beats up lowly criminals for fun, can't fix a single fucking city and gets PTSD everytime you say Martha.

[@Lutherstrode17492]

Actually, it’s the reverse for Batman. He started out as a brooding emo rich boy that kills people, and evolved into a symbol of hope that avoids taking lives.

[@EMBEEAY]

THIS is why I have a lot of faith in James Gunns DCU. Bro is the biggest comic nerd they could’ve chose at such a high level to direct the new era.

[@qoa-bandit]

This is why Todd McFarlane Spawn is so good. He's created and owned the character for the last 30 years

[@VITAS874]

Unfortunately comics very mess up with not make spawn god, also cartoon work with this better.

[@dylanhartley4074]

That’s why Deadpool is such an amazing movie with a great story behind it

[@timexyemerald6290]

Dude is practically raining on that mic

[@Sans-ns2ms]

Saitama most realistic hero

[@genesismultiverse4896]

How the snyderverse ruined superman and batman in a nutshell

[@filmpalace2426]

Nah

[@genesismultiverse4896]

@@filmpalace2426 keep crying

[@filmpalace2426]

@@genesismultiverse4896 nah

[@genesismultiverse4896]

@@filmpalace2426 no I didn't say keep saying nah I never mind to be fair I can instead watch something with color and less focused on masculinity

[@PACIFICBboy]

Creators losing control of their IP is one of the saddest things there is imo. It really is like losing a child in a way

[@chasethemaster3440]

1:06 hold tf up am i getting a Mandela effect!? I swear he put his hand up and slowly made a fist when he turns his head and says call me daaaad

[@ivanfrias2605]

Snyders Superman and Batman

[@unaxthorized8548]

bro you jumpscared me 💀

[@theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613]

Honestly, comic writers don’t even get anything as good as a courtesy invite to a movie premiere. The creator of the Winter Soldier showed up to the premiere of the film and was turned away.

[@Spuddyorange]

Yeah people was enjoying public domain a little TOO much with mickey 💀

[@Romualdocappelli]

@@Spuddyorange yeah, you are right.We have so many characters out of domain and all it's done are crappy horror movies😒

[@DoctorLazers]

I met Ed Greenwood recently. Creator of the Forgotten Realms, the setting for DnD featured in multi-million dollar projects like DnD: Honor Among Thieves and Baldur's Gate 3. He still works at the library in Toronto to make a living and wasn't even credited in the film or game.

[@GeekHero_Bubba]

Coming from Chip... That sounds like he's bragging.

[@EldritchMage3922]

It’s literally my dream to create something popular and still be unknown having people enjoy what I made and looking up to it while being a normal person

[@My6119]

Applies also to animators, graphic designers, song writers, all artists in general.

[@j13myoutube59]

Henry stein from bendy and the ink machine got treated the exact same way

[@gonzalofraguasbringas8617]

This is just Jack Kirby's life, lol

[@MSGSlayer1]

I grabbed Issue 1 off a local street stall to add some 'independent works' to my pile of comics.

[@babysinclairfan]

I like how they referenced that time Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) was turned into a villain because they wanted to replace him with the more modernized Kyle Rayner.

[@NAVEMAN3]

Sounds like DC in a nutshell with their live-action movies. At least Marvel gets it right...once in a blue moon

[@Fairy_Teeth]

I get so excited for comic adaptation, idk why they usually forget the characters

[@SmartKidOmkar]

we getting saul and mike for this one

[@bobatos2106]

Thats why i think ryan renolds was perfect as deadpool not only did he read the deadpool comics but he also fought for the movie to be filmed

[@fhartmart]

Definitely going to read this serious for sure, thanks for the recommendation

[@Angel-Otk]

This is what the guy that plays “the ghoul” said, but he’s so charismatic, everyone loves him for it💀

[@AszBlaster1802]

Ngl I had the spidey bedsheets as a kid

[@MekeninzoUG]

People only care about themselves in the end