"The Most SAVAGE Games I Ever Played In" - The CRAZY Nordiques vs Canadiens Rivalry

From 1979-1995, the Montreal Canadiens and Quebec Nordiques produced one of the greatest rivalries in NHL history. The Battle of Quebec peaked from 1982-1987 with four incredible playoff series, packed with comebacks, controversies, overtime goals, and bench-clearing brawls. From Guy LaFleur and Larry Robinson to the Stastny brothers and Dale Hunter, we'll explore the best years of what may have been the greatest rivalry of its time. What other topics throughout hockey history should I cover? Feel free to drop a suggestion in the Comments!
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Introduction
1:18 Background & Early Rivalry
3:48 1982 Series
7:19 1984 Series
12:14 1985 Series
14:35 1987 Series
17:47 Aftermath
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[@TwistedWristerHockey]

One correction at 17:48: Quebec did not sign the Canadian Constitution. The Meech Lake Accord, which was an agreement to change the Constitution and recognize Quebec as a "distinct society," was never enacted. I read something different in a New York Times article, hence the error. Anyway, thanks for watching! Let me know if you have any ideas for future video topics...I'm already working on the next one 😃

[@SirGalahadCtny]

What about significance of a single player on their team - Like Hašek on Buffalo for example, those extra ordinary stand ups over mediocre teams that actually anyone could feel.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

@@SirGalahadCtny Oh man, that's an awesome way to approach a "how good was this player" topic. Gonna save this in my ideas log, thank you!!

[@rileyholden-zc9ip]

The Nordqies need to come back

[@scorpioonthelow7783]

I agree, but it's not gonna happen.

[@mattvargashasyourback]

They started winning cups literally right when they left, would you come back?

[@rileyholden-zc9ip]

@@mattvargashasyourback if the jets can come back the nordqies can too

[@cringetingles]

big-time. I need to see these two go at it.

[@Reladan187]

Agreed, but I think the name needs a change. Hate it

[@mtlnascarfan]

We NEED to get a team back in Quebec City. We NEED this rivalry back again.❤

[@sdgakatbk]

👍

[@cjcollom]

Yes, and how about Joe Sakic as the first head coach of the re-born Nordiques?!!

[@mtlnascarfan]

@@cjcollom Perfect!😉👍

[@sportsfix6975]

Tor Det and Bos aren't enough?

[@mariaandmichael2680]

I was a Nordiques fan all my life, they broke my heart when they left. I just hope one day in my lifetime they return.

[@Mark-bu2ib]

I hope they do also. Always pulling for you in the 80s and I was a pens fan. It was rough for us back then.

[@SportsFan838]

This is why we need hockey back in Quebec ASAP. The Remparts isn't going to cut it.

[@mike196212]

I'm an old 62 year old guy who remembers the Nords driving one of my younger(one year) brothers nuts. He's a Habs fan. I'm a Leafs' fan but used to marvel at the palpable hatred on display between these two teams. All the fights!! All the fights in the league back then!! I don't miss the fighting but do miss the atmosphere of it all,one that seemed more genuine than it does today.

[@jpmzo]

In the early days of cable TV, we got the French version of Habs and Nords games in New England, was glorious!

[@SportsFan838]

WOAH that's actually sick!

[@jpmzo]

@@SportsFan838 We also got Rangers games on MSG with Sam Rosen and Phil Esposito!

[@SportsFan838]

@@jpmzo HOW TF IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?

[@jpmzo]

@@SportsFan838 Idk man, I was just a child. Original cable, like original internet was kinda a free-for-all. It was the first time the television networks had competition, so these new cable companies must’ve figured that if they had all these channels, people would flock to them. It didn’t last, but for a young hockey fan, it was heaven. On top of the Bruins, I could watch the Canadians the Nordiques and the Rangers, so there was virtually a hockey game on every night.

[@paganhorde4463]

Very good video, I was just old enough to watch the 1993 playoff live. Funny thing is Quebec city has a 19 000 nhl arena right now being sold out with minor hockey. While Arizona plays in an University rink with 4000 people

[@davidford3968]

Which, unfortunately says more about the lack of competent ownership in Arizona than anything else because I have family that lives down there and trust me when I tell you there are hockey fans in Arizona, But with that being said, there is absolutely no good reason that there is not an NHL team in Quebec city

[@quebecforce111]

the biggest rivality in history of NHL. I remember fight at school when i'm young

[@rebeltvr6046]

Habs-Bruins is the biggest rivalry in NHL history, but for a short time Habs-Nords was a good match.

[@quebecforce111]

@@rebeltvr6046 nope, you dont understand the rivality Quebec Versus Montreal. Its a rivality not only on ice, its sponsors rivality , Labatt vs Molson, its tv rivality , Radio Canada vs TVA. I see fight at schools bacause of this rivality . Its a subject to not talk in Christmas becauses families are very devised. Sincerely its not comparable. But for the longer yes the rivality Boston vs Montreal are the second most intence rivality in the NHL history after Quebec vs Montreal. Thirst a say Edmonton vs Calgary.

[@rebeltvr6046]

@@quebecforce111 Mtl v Nords was too short to count. Habs-Bruins have been bitter rivals a lot longer than that, have faced each other 30 times in the playoffs, and it's been brutal. No way does a 10 yr rivalry even come close to this. Edm. v Cgy? Dude, Habs-Bruins are the biggest rivalry in N. American sports. 100 yrs of bitterness.

[@timothyflanigan1777]

Man, do i miss the Adams Division.

[@liquid9059]

I remember watching the nordiques as a kid, not as much as I’d wanted to since I was born in 86, however I always followed them, and the avs till today, and proud

[@sicfrynut]

never apologize for uploading sports history like this ! great job ! i loved 80's hockey.

[@nickfo707]

Great video, nice work! I love these throwback stories

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

Thank you! These are my favorite to produce 😃

[@SorenArouet]

You know the Côté's goal is still debated in 2024..? That wound never fully healed.

[@hankl1118]

And it's still NOT GOOD as it rightfully was!!

[@ibopwebop]

AMAZING VIDEO!!! I was in my 20's during that era and it was the most exciting hockey series to watch ever.

[@Dr_Do-Little]

Oh the kids were watching. Everybody and their shadow's were watching. Those couple years were absolutely nuts. As much as I think Québec deserve a team. I'm not sure with today's social media how it would turn out. Families have been broken. Friendship lost. You can still feel it on sports page. Great times but sad times.

[@goranknezevic9721]

I'm an Avs fan and I'd like to see Quebec back in NHL ASAP! Great video! 👌

[@my3dviews]

Maybe move the Avs back to Quebec. 😂

[@goranknezevic9721]

🤣@@my3dviews

[@blaynestaleypro]

If Panthers fold then its a possibility. And not that unlikely. Panthers barely make any money and have large debt.

[@mikepurdue7472]

Vegas should have been put in Quebec. Seattle should have been put in Hartford. And the Coyotes should be put in Hamilton. Honestly, the Coyotes should've never even existed. Then the Jets could've stayed cool. But yes. Nordiques should be the #1 priority of the NHL right now.

[@goranknezevic9721]

@@mikepurdue7472 NHL needs new commish! Until then there will be no luck for Canada based new teams.

[@johnshields6852]

Old Boston guy, I played in the 60's,70's, and out all-star team would have exchange tournaments, we'd stay with Canadian families that treated us like gold, great people, until we step on the ice, a different city every year. Best hockey memories of my life. Thank you to all the families who took care of us. Love Canadian people, love hockey, but when we play the Habs anything goes.lol Oh Canada 🇨🇦🏒🇺🇸

[@xxxxxx-ow2hp]

As the video states, there were some incredible playoff rivalries back in the day. But, I say this all the time.....Montreal vs Quebec was the most intense, vicious hockey I ever watched. It was 'can't miss' hockey, even if you didn't cheer for either team.

[@disengage5147]

Great documentary. Brings back memories. I didn't realize that there were so much politics involved and how unfair it was for the Quebec franchise. I can feel the vitriol between these two teams return that I felt at the time as I watch again. Of course I am a Habs fan. GHG!!!

[@jamesfranke4521]

I'm 29. I would have loved to have watched this era of hockey. Yeah, not as skilled as today but more exciting in my opinion

[@SorenArouet]

I'm 47. It was awesome. A mix of drama, hatred and intensity. But you're right, the players nowadays are insanely talented.

[@finnmcginn9931]

Biggest fight I saw at a Nordiques/Habs game in Quebec City was in the stands. That rivalry was out of hand.

[@iblockpuncheswithmyface1490]

Check out Montreal, Boston "Brawl In The Hall" CRAZY!!

[@dextrosebizarre]

Less skilled, but hockey was more exciting.

[@remybeauchamp]

Awesome video. Brought back many childhood memories.

[@Handyandy747]

Great analysis and production! Thanks

[@type4647]

Bro---you are the best and most passionate hockey commentator Ive come across on KZbin. Keep it up.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

^ That's one of the best things anyone can tell me on here. Thank you very much, it's very meaningful!

[@tonymo6986]

Excellent video. Great memories.

[@metalfan245]

Great vid ! Very good research on the subject .

[@mathieuboivin1135]

Great content ! Thank you for saying the french names like they should sound. You prononced every name perfectly especially Alain Coté. You've done your homework for sure.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

Thank you! It was a little challenging, but when it comes to languages, I'm always up for a challenge 😃

[@jeanjacques9365]

perfectly is a stretch (there is room for improvement as he knows) but a vaillant and appreciated effort for sure !

[@charlesalvarez7660]

Very informative....some things I didnt know. Excellent video!

[@danielpodjun715]

Nick this is without question some of you best work! Job VERY well done my friend! ❤

[@spleenx1236]

That was an amazing video man! Took me back. Im a Rangers fan but, remember all that stuff. Thx for that trip down memory lane.

[@toddmazzitelli3159]

Nicely done!

[@sdgakatbk]

I must admit, I miss the rivalries that not just the NHL but sports used to have.

[@BillyJoeMcallister]

Very well done!

[@fredericbouchardwong4596]

Fantastic piece, some stuff that frankly seems forgotten

[@dextrosebizarre]

WoW! You are an amazing storyteller . Such good memories. And as a kid at the time, losing in OT against Nordiques hurt much more than any other losses like Calgary in 89 or Flyers and Islanders

[@cbinet123]

I was sitting at the junior ranks at Base Valcartier that night . The place was packed we were all watching the game on a projection TV. Some cheering for Montreal and some for Québec. I remember when the brawl started at the end of the period the same happened in the Junior ranks, fans of each teams were fighting, chairs were flying beers were spilled.......Things cooled down some after the players got off the ice. Soldiers apologizing to one another. Got some fresh beers and sat back down......Then It started again when the players got back on the ice, of course same thing happened at the ranks again. The MP`s had to called, some people were removed and the rest of us finished watching the game peacefully. Good times.

[@mikecho8008]

As a Bruins fan , I gotta say I enjoyed watching them beat the snot out of each other !👊🏼👊🏼🎸

[@DanielGagne]

As a Habs fan through those battles, it was insane growing up in Quebec... That OT goal by Stastny in Game 7... I remember CRYING!! It was crazy!! NOTHING compares to this in today's hockey, that's for sure.

[@ucumari77]

Excellent video Nick. Brought back some sore memories (Lol). I remember how brutal those games & series were. No love lost here when they moved to Colorado. The ultimate slap in the face for me was seeing Guy in a Quebec jersey. Maybe the Patrick Roy curse ends this year? BTW, love the Cortana icon!

[@djyanno]

As a habs fan, I don't know if it was because I was a kid or because of the rivalry but hockey has never been the same since the Nordiques left. We were circling our calender in advances for the games against Quebec. Half the people were for Quebec the other for Montreal. They used to play each year on new years eve (Or Christmas? One was against the Nordiques, the other against the Flames) and that created much dramas in families. In school, we were merciless. If you happen to wear the colors of a team in a class filled with opposing fans, you were taunted until you were crying. When I purchased hockey cards, I tore up and threw away every Nordiques players cards. Hated Hunter and Bergeron like they were the devil!

[@cjcollom]

T-Wrister, this is one of the BEST KZbin hockey "documentaries" going! Thank you for an excellent piece of tight work.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

I couldn't resist mentioning your comment to someone today; that's how awesome it was to read 😎 Thank you!

[@l.toni7615]

Great Video! Keep going!

[@danielgagne1846]

Great jersey ! ;) This rivalry was so fratricidal among us, especially during the 31th of December games and of course the series, that family members would stop to talk to each others for a while.

[@scorpioonthelow7783]

Great video!

[@RyanVentura604]

What a time. Thank you for your amazing content! It's so important to the history of this great sport to be able to share these stories with the modern generation.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

There have been heaps of great comments this week, but this is my favorite. Thank you 😃

[@RyanVentura604]

@@TwistedWristerHockey honoured my friend! Keep up the great work!

[@pellelindbergh4455]

great video !!!

[@qualityman1965]

I remember all of this. The brawl to end all brawls. When hockey was worth watching.

[@jpcad7954]

I remember watching the original 6 on Saturday nights, 8pm start in black and white. Only 3 channels. That is why we spent most of our time outside year round. Every school had a rink and the town also had outdoor rinks plus one arena. Great times, they were. Still spend as much time outside year round.

[@chrisbelos2834]

my father moved from montreal to quebec for work in 88 and i was in tears. i had to cheer for the nords. and the bad ones too. thank god we moved back to montreal in 91 and was able to cheer them to their last stanley cup in 93

[@JPBelanger]

Well done. I think you could have gon a bit into the 1993 meeting of the two teams. There are some fun stories in there too, although I agree it wasn't the 80's type rivalry.

[@mrmoose6619]

I remember reading that a few years back there was an Old-Timers (Alumni) Game between old Habs and Nords players and it was on TV in the province... 1 million viewers. Why the NHL is not in Quebec City is beyond my comprehension.

[@qaradigm]

Throw back story videos are my favorite

[@daved1535]

I loved 80s hockey. I loved the fact that you had a select few really good organizations. Only 6 teams won the Stanley Cup in a 23-year span from 1968-1991 Canadiens, Bruins, Flyers, Islanders, Oilers and Flames. Parity in sports is fine, but I loved having powerhouse organizations that battle each other for the Cup

[@devonmacdonald4893]

I have the good Friday massacre game on disc as part of my 10 greatest games in Montreal history collection. Love watching that game.

[@guardianangel138]

great stuff.

[@derricklafrance9440]

The old Adams division. Six points separated first from last usually.

[@poopsebeb]

I remember these games ! They were amazing

[@memorycardgaming1148]

My uncle's used to tell me stories about going to these games; That they would wear some of their hockey equipment under their jackets like shoulder/elbow pads expecting to get into a fight at some point in the night... Entertaining stories, but I won't deny my uncle's were fucking savages lol.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

Now that is something we'd never see happen today, as players would probably have an entourage with their own security.

[@patrickmartin2989]

I usually hate non-traditional hockey sweaters and logos: but the Nordiques nailed it. Absolute top five uniforms and timeless. Quebec should have a team just for the fleurs alone!

[@davidford3968]

My favorite Playoff rivalry is Pittsburgh vs Philadelphia. As a lifelong Pens fan there is just something about when the black and gold get it on with the orange and black that just makes the hair on my neck stand up

[@dougdillon1271]

The way the NHL schedule is now, I don't know if we'll ever see a great rivalry again.

[@therapist6328]

When I played in the world pee-wee hockey tournament, our team went to a nordiques-jets game. It was hard to believe, when both city's lost their NHL franchise.

[@zakwan10]

Excellent video Nick for one of the most intense rivalries in NHL history. Just a couple of add ons, the Parti Quebecois advocates Quebec's separation from Canada, they just dress it up in "sovereignty' terms in that they would keep the Canadian dollar and possibly 2 passports. Also yes there is a rift between Montreal and Quebec City in support for separation, the former has a huge recent immigrant community whose loyalty remains to Canada while the latter is made up mostly of those descendants of French Canadian settlers, starting in the 1600's until Quebec's fall to the British in 1759. The current day descendants are more likely to advocate for separation, add on the image of the 2 cities, Quebec City is referred to as the "old lady" as it is more subdued than wild, brash Montreal, finally I as many in Canada would love to see this rivalry come back, I have friends currently in Quebec City and their hatred of the Canadiens stems so hard, that to this day they refuse to support the Habs even though their Nordiques left for Denver 3 decades ago, keep up the great work.

[@jeanjacques9365]

Most fans in Québec sided with Boston rather than ever siding with Montréal.

[@rawfootagetoday6766]

My family used to get into fist-fights.... during Christmas. Nothing like it.

[@davidlarsen-tj4tn]

This was really great. Well done dude. Quebecs last season my Rangers beat them in the playoffs in the strike year and if I’m not mistaken the Nordiques were the 1 seed.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

Thank you! Comments like this really fuel my subsequent productions.

[@Wolfpack_Howe]

Awesome 👍

[@Topshelf87]

14:50, holy two hand CHOP

[@playinragz8183]

That was hockey! Man o man if that was today it be the highest rated tv program in sports. Fight for HONOR. There’s no goons on that ice sweethearts!

[@KaraMarisa]

Got my Nordiques jersey ready for a comeback!

[@LeJokerduRoi]

Your pronunciation of " le massacre du vendredi saint " was good enough. Don't be too hard to ursel :) Also, great video :)

[@estellegrignon]

As a francophone don't worry, your pronunciation was pretty much spot on each time ⚜️

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

Merci! I just wanted to strike a good balance between a sincere effort vs trying to sound like someone I'm not 😆 I hope to visit the province one day!

[@joshdrumheller4920]

Being a Caps fan, I love the Pens-Caps rivalry. It's always been gritty and scruffy. Also loved the Canes-Caps stuff when they were in the old Southeast Division.

[@iprey4surf]

Chris Nilan still plays inline hockey with us on the Big Island, Hawai'i.

[@TheAxeGrinder]

16:12 You just had to make Leafs fans cry. Good.

[@my3dviews]

I knew the rivalry being crazy, but not that crazy. 😂 Can't remember the year, but there was one regular season game, where the Nordiques were ahead by two goals. Montreal pulled the goalie and scored twice to tie it.

[@milieu675]

The Avs/Nords franchise has been one side of the 2 best and bloodiest rivalries in NHL history

[@patrickkeenan8109]

Would love to see you put together a Habs/ Bruins rivalry.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

Heck, that could be a multi-part series - with each video pertaining to a different era. Thanks for suggesting that!

[@dream_up_tomorrow]

Thanks for that. Your last comment could use this fact: Since Bettman's first full year as commissioner of the NHL in 1993-1994, no Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup…in more than thirty years. As a comparison, between expansion from the original six in 1967 and 1992 meaning pre-Bettman, Canadian teams won 17 of 27 Stanley Cups. That's 63% of Stanley Cups were won by Canadian teams with expansion and without Bettman. A whole 0% have won with Bettman. Coincidence?

[@Vinny_Gambini]

I was at the Forum for the Good Friday massacre game. I couldn't believe what I saw that night. I didn't see another game like this until the Canadian and Russian juniors brawl in Russia.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

That brawl must've left an image of your mind that you'll never lose. Reminds me of the phrase, "I went to a fight, and a hockey game broke out."

[@Vinny_Gambini]

@@TwistedWristerHockey good one 😂. Well the number of fights going on at the same time left an image. As for the brutalness of it all, I was an italian kid raised in a french canadian neighborhood and school, so I fought most of my youth, it was nothing new for me. But, I saw younger fellows crying in the crowd all around me. You don't think about this when you're on the ice.

[@TheH8redd]

I watched the good friday game, it was isnane and I was insane, jumping on my couch and starting a brawl with my brother(he was a nordique's fan) where police had to come home to get us separated. That's how crazy it was back then.

[@TwistedWristerHockey]

Not only did the rivalry divide provinces, it even divided households!

[@MoneyHoneyBunny]

Great video, I respect the notice for the names lol, Michelle Goulet cracked me up, hey even I've got some wrong over the years and I'm a legitimate NHL statistician. It's cool seeing how many future legends were on some of these teams. You see this and realize fuck, guys like Chris Chelios were playing in some of these series like wayyyy after this into the 2000s lmao. Guys like Dale Hunter, Guy Carbonneau were just babies into their career then! Quebec truly was the blocker to Montreal making more cup runs after their dynasty, regardless of if they'd have lost to the Islanders anyways.... we'll never know. I really wish Quebec would get a team back, not cause I'm a fan but, it would be great for hockey. That or Hamilton, Canada deserves another team but, we're at 32 now and that would cause the east to have 17 if Arizona moved. P.S. The fact that Detroit and Colorado have 7 cups combined since the Roy beatdown and Montreal has 0 is WILD..... Its like the Red Sox curse of the Bambino. Even with Carey Price, they couldn't quite win it vs Tampa.

[@SteveMcGuillicutty]

I know this video is true because when the video cuts to you in a Nords jersey and a Habs hat a bolt of lightning just streaked across the sky.

[@JLo-py9gt]

This rivalry was so good and the hockey it produced so interesting that Betman let the Nordics move to Colorado. Can't let hockey in Canada take the spotlight.

[@foley3737]

I remember I watched that game seems like yesterday

[@rubberneckinc.8937]

Ah yes, the old Adams division did have some epic playoff series. (Yes even Hartford) Buffalo, Boston, Quebec, Hartford, & Montreal all despised each other. (Yes much like the Patrick, Norris, & Smythe divisions but we're talking about the Adams) Because they're gone we forget how good some of the Nordiques players were.

[@botsharing1702]

The coach, managing the tickets so no habs fans could buy them, is hilarious stuff 😅

[@canucks255]

Thanks, nice collection of footage. But most of the players couldn’t have cared less about Quebec politics-that was a non-factor in the rivalry

[@ZOMb2010]

When HOCKEY was the best ..unlike today ...was fun watching bugs just before HNIC on CBC ...fun fun fun ...

[@Firearcher4]

Its like Quebec & Montreal met every ******* year in the playoffs!

[@michaeldipietro5010]

Is Montreal/Molson blocking Quebec from obtaining another franchise? This is pure speculation on my behalf. 2 more expansions in American cities is not exactly what I would have in mind. The sport is the Canadian pasttime. I understand that getting and maintaining a team is very hard work. All I need to do is look at the Coyotes situation. I really do want to see hockey return to Quebec. You are more than deserving of it. Some little factoids about some players from this video: -Langway was part of a deal to help the Caps be relevant later in the 80s. -Hunter was a thorn in everyone's side. His GWG in OT against the Flyers was considered the franchise's top play. That was until Ovi's insane goal in Arizona. -Clint Malarchuk would be a Cap before his viscious on ice accident that nearly left him post-mortem.

[@tomjacobs2032]

Quebec City is beautiful! That was a rocking rivalry. Bring back the Nords.

[@yogibearstie]

Those playoffs changed the linesmen from just calling offsides to needing to be bouncer sized. The fights were brutal and the small linesmen just made matters worse

[@jacksonsplace9754]

Going to be 40 years later after the Good Friday Massacre and people STILL talk about it.

[@finnmcginn9931]

Did they even sell Molson Canadian in Quebec back then? I thought it was Laurentide there.

[@mtlnascarfan]

They were both available here in Quebec. Laurentide is hard to find now.

[@kevinsabko7011]

well never liked the habs and always liked the Nords until they went to COL maybe because Im a Flames fan but my dad always talked about this rivalry

[@quasimoto7662]

The Nordiques are never coming back. And it’s no surprise why: too small, already consume hockey, players wouldn’t want to play there, etc. Sucks for the people there but that’s the business of things.

[@campion04]

Even if Quebec came back, you’ll never get hockey like this again. People have forgotten. Hockey has never been a pure skill sport. It was always physical. And sometimes brutal. But man those guys were tough. Now…….

[@jeanjacques9365]

The teams wouldn't be as involved as back when it was 50% native (québécois) players the rivalry between Montréal and Québec has always existed and still lives on to this day in any aspect of society.

[@gordieparenteau6555]

BTW, Forum PA Marcel Bergeron had to announce all those penalties TWICE! Once in French and again in English.

[@briandoucette4606]

Marcel Bélanger...was also a cop

[@eric7922]

who the hell’s the Nordiques player on the lead in image? Marylyn Manson?

[@OscarTheGrouch755]

I remember that one guy getting sucker punched and he never played another game of hockey again