The most textbook forehand ever!?

[@rahultarkar5164]

To play this shot, people should understand, it works because he has agile body and core strength for which he worked his whole life. People should build fitness as they are learning to play tennis. Playing tennis won’t make you fit, rather you need to be fit to play tennis.

[@antoinev9733]

bro, i stopped tennis i am not fit anymore ;)

[@joseh899]

So clean! No pat the dog, next generation forehand, etc. Nole very rarely shanks the ball, like many other forehands on the atp tour.

[@TomAllsopp]

Exactly. No nonsense!

[@hanslu9706]

Lol, if you want to generate power and have decent amount of top spin, you gotta “pet the dog” and use your legs.

[@joseh899]

@@hanslu9706 Definitely not for the club player. If it comes natural, great, but you can tell when it's not, and that ruins their forehand.

[@greenhammer1148]

It is a pat the dog but the dog is Big

[@hanslu9706]

@@greenhammer1148 😂😂

[@helloeveryone0123]

the loosest wrist to produce the most powerful tennis. hence why the big 3 are so amazing.

[@stefanopiccioli1620]

Perfect elegance ouverture power impact closing class foreshoot top 🔝 1️⃣

[@PabloPCSO]

So satisfying to watch.

[@Jimmy6547a]

I’ve watched him play live a couple of times. It’s like watching a video game, his balance, movement and ball striking is that good.

[@derekanaya]

Lol except when he plays Del potro in shanghai I guess.

[@user-be5qg7mr1s]

one of the best forehands ever! Its very efficient. IVe modeled mine after his motion

[@taxationistheft7]

Most consistent not one of the bests. There’s alot of better forehands than Novak’s, he just is above average-elite in everything

[@user-be5qg7mr1s]

its def one of the best. Notice I didnt say most powerful. He basically won 3 slams this year with it@@taxationistheft7

[@miguelbarahona6636]

​@@taxationistheft7Better forehands than Djokovic? (Please, just don't mention the over rated, unreliable Gonzalez's forehand.)

[@FredKirk-vi2rp]

@@miguelbarahona6636 Djokovic's forehand is really good. Career stats: forehand points won % vs unforced error %: Nole: 13% vs 7%, 1.85 ratio Fed: 19% vs 10%, 1.9 ratio Nadal: 13% vs 6%, 2.16 ratio Yes maybe Nadal and Federer have the best forehands of all time. But the ratios are all at close levels.

[@GhostruckerX]

Best ever in terms of precision? Federer.

[@johnbr59]

very good for players to model after. Both Rafa's (western loopy) and Roger's (eastern aggressive flat) are incredibly difficult and unique

[@kabob21]

Federer didn’t hit a flat forehand by default (still put a ton of spin on it) and used semi western grip aplenty.

[@johnbr59]

​@@kabob21relatively speaking

[@antoinev9733]

@@johnbr59 compared to Nadal ??? ;)

[@Jonathan-mp3ju]

I prefer Federer’s and model my forehand after his based on my style of play on hard court, but Nadal’s must be tough for opponents to handle on clay.

[@jorgeamador7253]

The GOAT...😊

[@Doty6String]

Most consistent and precise forehand on tour.

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

Now, yes.

[@antoinev9733]

it took time ;) but more surely, the ability to vary a lot, paces, volumes or effects. accuracy is the signature of his whole game :)

[@emymac8253]

Hypnotisant et apprenant. Merci😊

[@studfinderball]

Thanks! I subtracted the body coil, and using just the arm, I have a half swing, half push, pusher forehand! I've never been so steady!

[@coty38200]

The important is the body like a Unity... Flexión, rotation. And racket finish like a continuation. The stroke is from down to up

[@jisink]

I think it’s interesting that he’s never late with this style of trying to touch the back fence during his takeback. Can’t argue with his results!

[@VivaVictory]

Comment negatively when you're as good as he is!

[@antoinev9733]

yes and no :) nobody's perfect ;)

[@elwingy]

everything he does is textbook... its why he is the GOAT

[@TomAllsopp]

Not in my textbook

[@elwingy]

@@TomAllsopp no worries, some people might think Nalbadian is the GOAT. They are very few though. Facts are hard to deny for most though, even if it happens... eventually.

[@Skiiiiiifreeeeeee]

He's the modern agassi. Just a great all around baseline package and he's twice the mover agassi was. Combine those two attributes with longevity, motivation and the ability to play big matches better than any of his competitors and you get 24 majors.

[@zlatkostevanovic5891]

@@TomAllsopp Of course he is the Goat. He has most grand slams, most master 1000's, most weeks at number one. He is the one and only goat.

[@TomAllsopp]

It doesn’t mean all of his shots are textbook. His serve certainly isn’t.

[@jwkim4806]

His forehand is frequently underestimated because his Backhand is too good, but I think his is one of the best, at least better than Del Potro.

[@petemikedennis]

His hips stay so perfectly level through the shot. This is where the shot starts but is often an overlooked point.

[@MidcourtCrisis]

He holds the throat for an extended period to guarantee the shoulder/unit turn. A subtle element that all can try.

[@sintonga]

Flawless technique

[@Jonathan-mp3ju]

I prefer Federer’s and model my forehand after his based on my style of play on hard court, but Nadal’s must be tough for opponents to handle on clay.

[@matthewmeade117]

May sound strange but other than the perfect fine tuning of motion, he has a certain body structure that gives me whip vibes.

[@jmasked5082]

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[@xemphim4833]

So clear😊

[@youen1821]

This is is a 60% forehand. In the heat of the moment he swings way faster and he never catches the racquet if u notice.

[@antoinev9733]

what is surprising me is that i am not sure Djokovic have "just" one forehand. as Alcaraz this guy can give many varaitions of volumes, paces or effets with this hot. more than many other even among the big 3.

[@amitkumar-mc1ie]

Thanks

[@brunogssouza1]

I have a problem in the ending part of the forehand, like... I hit in the contact point, but my hand doesnt flow to the back like Djokovic does, any tips for that?

[@TomAllsopp]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnikkJKnZ9Z_mdE

[@brunogssouza1]

@@TomAllsopp Thanks!

[@karadale5219]

Fognini forehand is the best in my opinion. Pure, simple, loose yet deadly.

[@reallypantik6283]

pure balance

[@exerciserider]

Yes for sure, exactly how I teach it

[@AZ-cj8du]

Similar to rafa and roger...These 3 all have the same swing rotation... Prove that it's the best technique possible on how to hit a forehand

[@agreen182]

His right shoulder is behind at contact 🧐

[@rahultarkar5164]

I have modeled my forehand after Federer and my error rate is also higher like him.

[@acadieux000]

Doesn’t get any better than this.

[@alvaromena7548]

Yes. And That’s why he suffer of something similar than spasms sometimes. The shot is so much difficult to make that sometimes he falls down. Yesterday in the final of the US Open he started doing the same with his backhand too

[@TomAllsopp]

What!?!?

[@robertpineda2858]

It is a consistent forehand. I will give him that. But in terms of power, generation and aesthetics, there’s a lot to be desired.

[@danielscotti9471]

For all of the new Gen coaches ,teaching short backswing forehands.....there you have the short backswing....... ignorance is free.

[@TomAllsopp]

Yeah. Short, fast whippy swings are overrated

[@tmaeda1972]

ポイントは、ラケットダウンしたときにラケットヘッドが手首よりも（ほぼ）垂れないことか

[@tesladiesel2420]

And, nobody’s yelling at him “bend your knees, load the legs, don’t take it back too far, get under the ball” etc. Did I miss anything else? Lol

[@ThetennisDr]

All in the wrist.

[@AdvancedTennisFoundation-ph9zo]

Actually no. I'm a big Novak fan, but his Fh still has a small by key flaw that has played a big part in this yr being off. His Fh is much better than it was early in his career, but he still hits slot entry late in his forward swing, which gives him issues for hitting a rising, fast incoming ball. This leads to a tendency to hit them long at the worst moments.

[@winaganis]

do you have something like this but for backhand?

[@blwm9206]

Actually, this is not the best example...his dominant shoulder isn't in front of the left...

[@TomAllsopp]

Why does it need to be?

[@c-manmusic8211]

Pretty good but the most textbook forehand I’ve ever seen came from RF

[@TomAllsopp]

@@c-manmusic8211 nah

[@tberry79]

Yes

[@golfergab]

One of the best forehands ? True, but textbook ? His grip is anything but textbook!

[@TomAllsopp]

@@golfergab what’s wrong with the book. It seems pretty textbook to me

[@golfergab]

@@TomAllsopp His grip is too turned , Federer has a classic textbook forehand! Djoko has a very agressive newstyle grip, very effective and good but not textbook!

[@haljam8828]

Better to bend arm or straight arm for forehand? Pros and cons?

[@judgeprime3730]

Its not a heavy topspin forehand, he hits pretty flat or at least looks like it here

[@AnyaForger-q7r]

Interesting...

[@phatvu3811]

While I like Nole forehand, I still think Federer has the textbook example of the modern forehand.

[@tombuddy100]

The grip is different though. Novak uses Eastern, almost Western grip, so arm is slightly bend at point of contact. Roger uses Continental, where the arm is stretched at the point of contact.

[@TomAllsopp]

@tombuddy100 none of that is correct

[@erikbergson6471]

@@tombuddy100Dude, Roger has a eastern grip and Novak semi-western!

[@tombuddy100]

@@erikbergson6471 Still, Roger stretches his arm before hitting the ball, whereas Novak doesn't.

[@jonwj8622]

@@tombuddy100novak's is bent but he straightens his arm a lot more than the typical "bent arm" FH. And like others have stated, Roger uses a strong Eastern and Novak a strong SW, almost closer to Western at times

[@IWTACoaching]

There are better forehands out there. It’s very good, very solid but generally requires a weaker shot from an opponent to be a real threat. It is not the model that would use when building a high level mens forehand that has to be a consistent threat. Obviously that is easier said than done.

[@yxd00181]

It seems not compact swing , isn't it?

[@jaansa86]

Djoko is the best in history. But Roger Federer Forehand its "The shot". A master piece for the text books 😁

[@TomAllsopp]

Not my text book

[@Al-ji4gd]

@@TomAllsopp Your textbook is irrelevant. Federer has a much better forehand.

[@TomAllsopp]

Nope. Players should not copy Federer’s forehand

[@Al-ji4gd]

@@TomAllsopp Yesh, they should.

[@TomAllsopp]

@@Al-ji4gd he’s ruined so many forehands. Alcaraz to ruin the next gen of players

[@cneve08]

Amazing yes. Text book maybe not. But who cares he's a stud

[@김광숙-j1o]

나의영웅 조코비치여 영원하라

[@bniceace]

IF ANY OF YOU CAN MASTER HIS FOREHAND! YOU WILL HAVE A WORLDNRANKING

[@adelmomandia5216]

Looks like his body rotation start first and the hip follow . Always confuse what start the forehand??

[@taiwanbound5771]

It's not the most text book forehand. But it's right after Fed's.

[@EXCEDRIN10]

Depends on who’s text book

[@TomAllsopp]

Mine

[@EXCEDRIN10]

@@TomAllsopp 🙄

[@andriip1221]

Federer

[@alfredobanuelos4730]

No. Federer is textbook.

[@KhanMunazAhmad]

Rogers FH was not that bad eithet tbh

[@TomAllsopp]

I think Djokovic’s forehand is a better stroke to learn from for most players

[@KhanMunazAhmad]

@@TomAllsopp Yes i agree. Easy to learn text book technique by djoko.. Hardly any shank. It's just fed's forehand was a delight to watch

[@ArthurVerhulst]

@@KhanMunazAhmad Yes, I think Fed's FH was a little more natural than Djokovic's FH. I also feel that Djokovic's BH is more natural than his fH.

[@EugeneK]

@@TomAllsopp depends what you want. If you like to grind far behind the line where ball is high - sure. If you want take the ball early and low like Agassi or Fed - this chicken wing grip would not work well. You wont be able slap the ball as you palm is not aligned with raquet face.

[@dg2973]

​@@TomAllsopp when Federer change his grip and backswing...his forehand wasnt good as it was in first 5 years of his careera. Dont know why he was done that but it wasnt something that gives him more benefits. More mistakes sometime in crucial moments, not to mention worse play on clay. Lack of spin and power. His forehand was similar to Djoković nowdays and then he changed that. I m sure if he didnt do that he would won couple of big wins more.

[@cnesloc8575]

where's the snap everyone is talking about

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

The snap is quick and happens just before contact, its almost closer to a golf swing than a whippy wristy tennis FH.

[@gera_germanov]

В ТЕЧЕНИИ ПЯТИ ЛЕТ ОТШЛЕФОВАЛ И СПРАВО И СЛЕВО УДАРЫ ДО ИСКЛЮЗИВА!!! 😎

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

Plus Rogers strike zone was an inch off the court to two feet over his head with very little loss of anything: spin, pace and or trajectory. Novak's technique hates the high slow ball. Many of his errors are drawn off of that ball.

[@TomAllsopp]

It’s a better model for people to copy though.

[@javils6178]

Hi class.

[@chiloandchepo]

Supposed he is not perfect n he forehand. I think he won out of been a tennis genius

[@francoissg]

A couple of days ago I commented that Djokovic will never be the GOAT even if he wins 10 more majors...and added why, however my comment has been removed!...why?

[@TomAllsopp]

I don’t know. Wasn’t me.

[@gsa155]

thats why he's ...

[@AnhBui-zp1ee]

Decent form can’t beat Federer Nadal or djvokkc

[@serveyourname5565]

Well, if you're a real novice and over 50 of age, don't try this on court

[@TomAllsopp]

That would be the case for every pro. But Djokovic is one of the better ones

[@bogdanadzic9305]

​@@TomAllsoppbetter once xd salty

[@daviesfed]

Better ones. Are you brain-dead?

[@creativestudio101]

I don't like his forehand, doesn't look too bad there, but when in real matches the stroke guess all the way around almost wrapping his neck at the end of the swing... Weird shit.

[@TomAllsopp]

I agree, in matches he does things that look awkward and weird. Never saw Federer doing that

[@Charmander009]

All the people that think Novak hits wit a bent elbow , look carefully , when he takes it back he fully extends his arm . He bends it on the way back . Totally different than Naomi Osaka who keeps arm bent the entire way . Even swiastek straights arm on way back

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

Nole absolutely makes contact w the elbow bent. He even says he does. This debate is so assinine as it is evident on every strike the elbow is bent. The higer the ball sits in his strike zone the bend gets more pronounced.

[@van-munozfamilyadventurest5021]

Best forehand is from Roger Federer.

[@TomAllsopp]

Nah. Definitely not to copy. Maybe to look at

[@gabrielalcocer8051]

Answer, yes, and I’ll tell you why if you’d like. 😂

[@emjay2045]

Y ❓❓

[@TomAllsopp]

Go on then…

[@gabrielalcocer8051]

@@TomAllsopp His chain is perfect similar to ‘Fedal’, but something I think bent arm forehands allow for is better and prolonged shoulder abduction to contact, then, much like a serve, the arm ‘snaps’ from supination to pronation in a more violent manner. Now, how can this be achieved? If you pin press both elbows back (both abducting each shoulder) as the shoulders turn, you get to contact without having to internally rotate the shoulder (probate) as early. This makes Novak’s off shoulder and arm more integral to his striking and if you notice this difference in comparison to others, he’s different there. I hope that makes sense.

[@gabrielalcocer8051]

Of course, not all bent arm forehands, if any, are like Novak’s, he’s perfected the stroke IMO.

[@operation2096]

Federer did it better

[@TomAllsopp]

Maybe, but he ruined a million players forehands who tried to copy him

[@ariannacapogrosso2201]

Mine is better

[@johnsuttoniiijs]

Not even hardly. Nole has a very good semi western. Roger Federer had the cleanest FH tennis has ever seen. Esthetically, kinetically and technically.

[@TomAllsopp]

No he didn’t

[@aswinsrikanth408]

casual bro He has a great forehand , but not the textbook fh

[@drbookie2169]

roger federer has the most textbook

[@TomAllsopp]

I disagree

[@drbookie2169]

@@TomAllsopp It is beautiful. And in 2005 it would destroy any pther forehand

[@EugeneK]

Roger with his grip can take ball early and close to baseline. Joko with his grip can back off and take high ball and camp behind baseline for hours. To each his own. I prefer Roger.

[@ctt82]

​@@EugeneK Have you watched Novak last 2 years? He is taking the ball super early and is way more aggressive these days. His game has evolved more than any other player on tour

[@EugeneK]

@@ctt82 Please, provide sideview frame of Novak taking low ball off the bounce 2 feet behind the baseline. This may convince me. ;) The posted video demonstrates Joko's contact above waste level , the height where Western grip shines But , here is how low ball looks like for Westerners: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYjUo4mFjMRgiac Not exactly thing of beauty, even though Sock is awesome player.

[@stephanequiot50]

Definetly not

[@EugeneK]

Not fan of his grip. Had it, got golfer elbow. Besides, this chicken wing elbow bend is not very esteticaly pleasing. However, must admit , that it works for him, stats do not lie. Just not for everyone. Far from it.

[@TomAllsopp]

It’s a very efficient way to move the body and very pleasing on my eye.

[@EugeneK]

@@TomAllsopp Body moving and swinging nowadays are totally independent. Stepping into the ball is single of the past. You just don't needed putting body into strokes , as with ATP swing you have tons of power. The leg work is mostly only for lifting the ball, not for providing pace. As to pleasing - happy for you. Enjoy the view. ;)

[@goldencalf5144]

Not as pretty as Fed's.

[@vladraduandrei5227]

wasn t the point of the video ...are you fedtards actualy braindead ?

[@goldencalf5144]

@@vladraduandrei5227 Easy tiger, I was just having a bit of fun.

[@eiyp3]

U want pretty? Go watch ballet bruh Wtf u watching sports for

[@goldencalf5144]

@@eiyp3 To be entertained and thrilled. What do you watch it for?

[@eiyp3]

@@goldencalf5144 exactly to be entertained and thrilled,not to admire the beauty

[@꿈은이루어진다-z7o]

절대 가장 좋은 포핸드아님. 임팩트순간에 벌써 라켓이 많이 누워서 공이 힘이 많이 없어 뻗지를 못하는 스윙 또한 라켓을 길게 돌려빼면 볼이 정확히 원하는 방향으로 가지못함

[@zhichengzhao5907]

I have seen his forehand and backhand on court in person, that's even more impressive than on video !

[@francoissg]

It is quite disappointing that someone has deleted my comment on Djokovic!...So I am going to rewrite it again!

[@maxbet7221]

The most stable and versatile forehand ever.....for me the standard and best forehand ever.

[@FExpiate]

good joke :)

[@Smashbrothersgaming]

Djokovic is too famous

[@martianmatters]

Tom! Great. Your clips are the best! I Like two frames. Noticed important details. Confirming my reasoning. Plus an extra bonus!!!!! U NEVER, NEVER reveale greatest secrects, offer any online-7days-go to the moon- full proof-become a pro crap! So refreshing, so modest!!!!!

[@johncase2408]

I'll take his backhand any day. The Serbian Wall reigns Supreme 🙌

[@baldassarealessi1007]

Compliment Novak Djokovic

[@haljam8828]

He puts bodyweight into everyshot

[@francoissg]

In essence, Pete Sampras with his unparalleled serve & volley plus his running forehand, in my opinion, is the GOAT...At his peak, Roger Federer who has the most complete game, would have beaten Djokovic as well... It doesn't matter if Djokovic wins 5 or 10 more majors, he will never be the GOAT...remember, we are talking about at peak level...

[@francoissg]

Djokovic will never be the GOAT even he wins another 10 majors...yes, he dominated the last 10 years or so when he was at his pick...however, i will take Pete Sampras at his pick any day with his unparalleled serve and volley combination and his deadly running forehand...Roger Federer, the most complete player, at his pick would beat him too...

[@Qacc6]

Such a laborious and ugly stroke though.

[@Cooper407]

Where can I find the textbook? Can you tell me textbook name so that I can read it?

[@derekanaya]

The Tennis Biomechanical Manual.

[@antoinev9733]

@@derekanaya i am confusing smetimes about forehand: to make it clear, as a one handed backhander i manage it with the " back " ( shoulder) as the main spring. where is the spring here ?? abdominal belt ??

[@DevaArtha-b5s]

Western or semi?

[@khmaisjouini]

A réal artist

[@BepoLazaneo]

Prelipo...

[@FLIP238]

Federer has the best

[@TomAllsopp]

Nah. Almost everyone who copies it develops terrible technique

[@HuyTruong-je6lp]

No knees?

[@TomAllsopp]

Perfect knees