The Most Underrated Tekken Character

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@WambwneD
@WambwneD 2 жыл бұрын
He's a fun character, and watching ImYourFather is a joy. But learning him is hell. Respect to all Lee mains.
@feb14loose
@feb14loose 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I use to just spam back 4, mist step, 1, 2, mist step 1,2
@whatwhy6349
@whatwhy6349 2 жыл бұрын
Imo lee is not hard as people claim him to be. Am a lee main in T.G rank and i think hiehachi is harder to win with in those rank based on my experience and knowledge about the game. Lee is incredibly strong character.
@WastePlace
@WastePlace 2 жыл бұрын
@@whatwhy6349 I just wish I was better at timing his 1,3,3,3 string because it’s super satisfying to punish with but I rarely have the confidence to go for it in real matches
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
@@whatwhy6349 agreed, he is definitely strong, like top 15 strong but not top 10 imo. I main Lee and Hei weirdly enough, I would say in beginner and intermediate Heihachi is definitely better but the higher you go the more fundamental the game becomes and at that level Lee is definitely better. I think when most people say he is hard they mean his execution and just frames, which is definitely a fair point imo lol
@Torrak.
@Torrak. 2 жыл бұрын
Love watching ImYourFather's videos. I just got Lee to Fujin the other day, so much fun to play. :)
@MusicAnonI
@MusicAnonI 2 жыл бұрын
As a total casual who's committed to Lee, it definitely helps that even in defeat you're styling on people. I may not be good, but I feel cool as hell playing him.
@YatiAcharya
@YatiAcharya 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyy 🙌🏻💯
@flyingfrogofdeath9616
@flyingfrogofdeath9616 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the exact same spot brother! Losing has never looked so cool.
@Torrak.
@Torrak. 2 жыл бұрын
I main Lee these days aswell. :)
@carloshernandez3177
@carloshernandez3177 2 жыл бұрын
the fact this game can make you feel that way and keep playing is what makes tekken so good
@scar-c1788
@scar-c1788 2 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it
@PhilippJacobius
@PhilippJacobius 2 жыл бұрын
TMM's top 10 is composed by like 25 characters
@ThraxxL0rd
@ThraxxL0rd 2 жыл бұрын
Watching ImYourFather play this character is some of the best tekken content. His KZbin is pure comedy
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
Hes the only Korean player I go out of my way to watch, very very entertaining
@flyingfrogofdeath9616
@flyingfrogofdeath9616 2 жыл бұрын
Father is great but check out FightingGM. Father is great with Lee and super entertaining and you can learn a lot from him but FightingGM's Lee is *excellent*
@fxlja
@fxlja 2 жыл бұрын
Play lee's df1 frame by frame and you'll see at the start of the animation he's actually considered to be in crouch state. TBS points that out on a video a few months ago where they compare all generic df1. Lars' and Noctis' are the most evasive, Lei's has the most tracking to both sides, Fahk's and Leroy's has the best hitbox, but Lee's actually put him in a *crouching state* for a frame or two.
@euvericetv755
@euvericetv755 Жыл бұрын
You can actually extend the window hes in crouch by about 4 frames if you hold DF then press one making it slower but even more evassive
@jaycha4983
@jaycha4983 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is hard to play, but he’s one of the most well rounded characters with most of the tools being above average to really good. Amazing keep out too.
@wildman7220
@wildman7220 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree.
@dougsmith5920
@dougsmith5920 2 жыл бұрын
I just got this game, and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE playing this character. I know it’s gonna be hell learning him, but I’m gonna main him.
@Abdirahman_Mohamed
@Abdirahman_Mohamed 2 жыл бұрын
Get ready to hear a lot of “Kam Oon!”
@LeiChaobruh
@LeiChaobruh 2 жыл бұрын
Lee actually has a great difficulty curve, there's always something you're improving at. Good luck hehe
@manaleek4800
@manaleek4800 2 жыл бұрын
as lee would say "EXCELLENT"
@sucinistro
@sucinistro 4 ай бұрын
You must be good at lee now, the work paid off
@milkpeach8091
@milkpeach8091 Жыл бұрын
The issue with Lee is it's difficult to have good pressure with him especially at high levels where players are so good at anticipating moves and are good at defense. An opponent with solid defense and who turtles a lot is a nightmare for Lee.
@countdookie6987
@countdookie6987 3 ай бұрын
Lee is not that strong on Offense, he's a defensive Law. His best shits for offense are basic grabs and mid/low mixups from crouch and HMS
@willerik
@willerik 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout Miirio
@WambwneD
@WambwneD 2 жыл бұрын
And ImYourFather
@hewhobattles8869
@hewhobattles8869 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is one of my favorite non-Mishima characters, next to Dragunov and Hworang. Just wish i mastered him. Some of his mixups are great imo they're not that easy to read. Like his 4,3,4 can trick people into falling for his 4,3, down+4. And even if they choose to stay on the ground, his down+3 can do damage whilst creating some small distance and put him into Hitman stance.
@mrblueshark9111
@mrblueshark9111 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Leo is sick but drag is coolest in the game he is my main
@nickmichaelson5553
@nickmichaelson5553 2 жыл бұрын
Lee Chaobla
@pappico
@pappico 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have a "43d4" string. Is that a typo? What move are you talking about lol.
@dowzjohn4011
@dowzjohn4011 2 жыл бұрын
He is a mishima by blood, he even got a mist step who go forward and not side step like Kaz. Its more like Kazumi because he can even go back with the mist step
@ihateraison
@ihateraison 2 жыл бұрын
@@dowzjohn4011 He was adopted tho
@mikemumba2287
@mikemumba2287 Жыл бұрын
I just hope the Devs at namco really give lee a chance to shine in Tekken 8. I feel both gameplay and storywise he isnt potrayed as the serious threat he is. Let's not forget Lee was handpicked by Heihachi himself to rival his son Kazuya. Though he lost I think the fact that he was chosen as the one to take care of Kazuya should speak volumes about just how strong and skilled he is. Remember Heihachi was a man that was damn nearly unkillable himself and never needed anybody to fight for him. So for him to take lee in and raise him to be a foe for his strongest rival (Kaz) then that says something about the man. I feel lee is top 5 storywise in fact I'd him place 4th right after Jin, Kazuya and Heihachi. It's just that his charm and carefree attitude in the game makes him seem harmless not that threatening at all. But all in all this man is nothing short of EXCELLENT!!
@NaisanSama
@NaisanSama 6 ай бұрын
Care free attitude huh No wonder my older brother suggested I main him
@rcurl44
@rcurl44 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is one of those characters along with Kazuya Bryan and Steve that I never get mad or frustrated if I lose to them cause I have massive respect for anyone who can commit to them
@tripleb2385
@tripleb2385 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly
@makeomengreatagain
@makeomengreatagain 2 жыл бұрын
Kazuya, Lee yes. Bryan Steve no
@QuintessenceHD
@QuintessenceHD 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you can easily go red ranks with just hellsweep and df2 on kazuya.
@makeomengreatagain
@makeomengreatagain 2 жыл бұрын
@@QuintessenceHD And with 1000 counter hits on bryan. Not mentioning actually having pokes, mids that are not slow af or -9/-18
@miltakis12
@miltakis12 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for understanding us bro. We lost too many times before we started winning.
@giorgishubitidze1981
@giorgishubitidze1981 2 жыл бұрын
Lee sometimes struggles with inconsistency, his tools that are supposed to wallsplat like b1,1,2 or f2,1 don’t do that, even ff3. there are some issues with consistency during his combos as well. but he is definitely strong
@lxrd5238
@lxrd5238 2 жыл бұрын
some of his best combos on paper is locked behind tight execution combos and some of his best punishments are locked behind just frames too
@milkpeach8091
@milkpeach8091 Жыл бұрын
It sucks how the dev team doesn't even bother fixing those inconsistencies. It's clearly busted when obvious wallsplats/wallbreaks don't do shit.
@idontwant2beasoldiermama241
@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 Жыл бұрын
I've seen that imyourfather recognizes the situation and applies different working moves
@victorfranca85
@victorfranca85 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is def the coolest. You have to play with those keyboard keys on movement to cut down on execution strain. I can not play oscar with anything but the stick, it would take time to learn my cancels again. But def go with keys for certain characters, stick for most, and pad for others, like lil majin’s King. Biding top buttons on pad can help.
@lennartjakobs1213
@lennartjakobs1213 2 жыл бұрын
As a Lee main I agree that he was criminally underrated for a long time and would also put him around top 10. That being said, he can be so strong in certain matchups but he has flaws that pale him in comparison to "real" top tiers. He is really strong vs all Mishimas but absolutely crumbles vs Zafina for example. He just isn´t a good ft2/3 tournament character. Against good defense and spacing he really struggles to get in, combo wise he is too unreliable and what MainMan didn´t mention at all is that he is so so linear. Fighting GM dropped him as a tournament pick for good reason and started playing Geese in tournaments. Edit: After watching the video I had to come back to correct a couple things because MainMan tends to go a bit over the top when trying to make a point. Not trying to hate here. I just want the correct information out there: 1. d3 doesn´t evade mids. it just doesn´t. it might at a range where the mid would´ve missed anyways but I´m constantly getting df1´d out of d3. 2. b4 has fast recovery but can actually be whiff punished with i13-14 moves quite reliably. have you tried doing that to any of lydia´s moves? that´s the new standard for fast recovery and compared to that b4 recovers a lot slower. it is fast but kind of balanced by it having zero tracking whatsoever. if you go for the stance version of b4 it´s almost homing but has crazy long recovery. every of lee´s moves that go into stance have long recovery and good players know that and will use it against you very effectively. If it´s any move on block into stance or his d3 on hit into stance all his options lose to df1 except for the power crush. So either just block or check him with df1. If he starts throwing out powercrush a lot, duck and punish. the recovery is really bad for the power crush. 3. lee´s punishment is extremely strong but MainMan could´ve mentioned he doesn´t have a reliable i15 ws launcher. he has crouch cancel hop kick but online that mostly comes out as flip kick which is slow, will get blocked and you´ll eat a launch 4. the df1 SOMETIMES goes under jabs not most of the time. in my experience it mostly happens if i do df1 a little late so the animation starts when the jab is almost coming out. on top it tends to only work vs 1 jabs from the left not the 2 jabs from the right. MainMan could´ve noticed that when he tried to prove it in practice mode getting it only with this specific timing but he was busy proving a point. 5. ff3 is not hard to sidestep at all. it´s a ff move that re-alines which is why people get hit by it for trying to walk Lee at a range. If I notice that you want to sidewalk I can clip you with it because lee can use mist step to lengthen the range. if i do the normal ff3 it gets stepped quite often.
@IzNebula
@IzNebula 2 жыл бұрын
Completely disagree with him being Top 10, not even close. Not even top 15 in my opinion but that can be argued, the highest I would put him would be top 20 imo. Now, don't get me wrong, he is definitely not bad. I would go as to say he's above average for sure. That being said though, I pretty much agree with every point you made even with the edits you added.
@lennartjakobs1213
@lennartjakobs1213 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzNebula i think you could make a case for him being at least close to top 10 if he is played with absolute perfection. But I guess thats not realistic. He just crumbles too easily if the opponent knows the matchup very well. You would have to be so much more creative than other characters to get stuff going. The thing is he really suffers from online right now because his stuff often relies on exact frames and the game has developed a huge hunger for frames since late season 3. It eats my sidewalks:(
@MrDxfusion
@MrDxfusion 2 жыл бұрын
All of these comments are perfect, finally people that understand. He looks good on paper but no one will play him perfectly to precision 100% of the time and even when you do the game can fuck you with random hits not connecting, f 3 3 3 3 4 for example.
@voltreo
@voltreo 2 жыл бұрын
I would take FightingGM's opinion over anyone else's any day or any Lee main who is a Lee loyalist, they know the character like no other. And I completely agree everything you said, I was going to correct TMM on this. I've noticed TMM often exaggerates Lee's strengths which undermines his weaknesses. PS: Not sure about top 10, he's hardly top 20 imo.
@lennartjakobs1213
@lennartjakobs1213 2 жыл бұрын
@@voltreo Thats completely fine with me :) TMM always does this when making a character Video like this cause he knows how to debate. If you try to prove a point (lee is very strong) you will only offer points of discussion that serve your standpoint on the matter. He knows about Lee's weaknesses and actually made a whole video on that.
@NullifiedPerson
@NullifiedPerson 2 жыл бұрын
When I got Tekken 7 and started playing the Story mode and got to the part using Lee, I immediately knew he was my main and now I am learning and improving with him in Tekken 7
@sulyu765
@sulyu765 2 жыл бұрын
TMM's Top 10 inclusive to about 25 characters. Gotta love it
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
Lol for real though
@SkylarEmelio91
@SkylarEmelio91 2 жыл бұрын
I still miss his old CH ff4 :(
@sebastienhahn_tk5171
@sebastienhahn_tk5171 2 жыл бұрын
Great content to introduce Lee for players who wanna main him.I would hope you do 1 someday on the British Boxer.
@Potato-tra22
@Potato-tra22 2 жыл бұрын
This is an EXCELLENT Video
@MichaelSS
@MichaelSS 2 жыл бұрын
4:18 I may be wrong but I think they are called "magic" 4s from Julia in Tekken 3/ Tag 1. They could crush/evade moves with low hit boxes because she lifts one leg very high making her hitbox on her legs very small. It still happens today with other moves across the cast that do the same (someone lifting one leg high up and going through lows, like Fahk's b3, Alisa's f+3) But yes, adding that they were super fast CH launchers added to the name.
@DanSung2021
@DanSung2021 2 жыл бұрын
Just got the game lost a week ago. Playing Kazumi like you said, getting better and moving onto lee just to have some fun with him and learn some stuff. I don’t play much games but I think If I keep trying with him one day I will be good and that’s fine with me. I recommend him, he is good. And with me playing just sometimes I won’t get bored and will be able to stay consistent and therefore be able to keep getting better and better at him over “Time” Edit: love your vids man and have a good new year (it’s 1st jan as I’m typing this)
@HumbleHurricane
@HumbleHurricane 2 жыл бұрын
I've already known about everything prior, but THIS blew my mind. 7:50 Crazy
@yeah5874
@yeah5874 2 жыл бұрын
He's so incredibly fun and satisfying to play
@sooya1329
@sooya1329 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is very fundamental based character, he's hard to master man but if you mastered his tool and you got insane fundamentals you can succeed with him. That's how I see with Fighting GM and Imyourfather
@JaimeAGB-pt4xl
@JaimeAGB-pt4xl 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't go as far as top10 but its probably top15 (I would rate him as such) and def top20 (upper tier) ... One of the things that brings him down its in fact the character difficulty, which gives him he's identity, the swag is cherry on top
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
Yah he is very strong, I also agree top 15 and definitely top 20 but not top 10, too many strong characters that don't have the insane execution requirements, very few people can play lee consistently in tournament
@cocojumbo90210
@cocojumbo90210 2 жыл бұрын
Im so glad that trick kick command grab is hard to do because he would be zo toxic
@Impetratus
@Impetratus 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed top 10 in the current dlc climate is a stretch.
@flyingfrogofdeath9616
@flyingfrogofdeath9616 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss! My favourite character and new main. Still can't do a single combo but I've never had so much fun losing!! If you're gonna lose, lose in style.
@mikeg4490
@mikeg4490 2 жыл бұрын
His keep out is nasty
@Dopey_909
@Dopey_909 2 жыл бұрын
I play Tekken with my friends at work, during our breaks in our lounge room, and as a Jin main, I struggle the most against my friend that has a strong Lee because he’s so good at spacing. We’ll play a first to 10 and I’ll probably win 3 games if I’m lucky. When I play a first to 10 against his armor king, I’ve won 4 out of our 5 first to 10 sets
@HumbleHurricane
@HumbleHurricane 2 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome breakdown. Very nice
@AMK316
@AMK316 2 жыл бұрын
Mainman one other thing to mention is with magic 4 the second hit can be delay considerably after the first 4
@friendlykoala
@friendlykoala 2 жыл бұрын
Great one ! I'd also like to mention a reason why he is underrated which is really good for him. Most people like to be wary of Lee from mid range due to his keep out tools, and then tend to press more in close range thinking they can now afford to. But some of his most unimpressive moves have actually great frames, like db3. Little low pokes usually are negative on hit (Bryan's db3, Jin's d4 etc), but Lee's db3 actually leaves him at plus, which makes it a great tool for a magic 4 setup (people will respect the db3+4 due to the wobble animation, but won't respect the little db3 as much). Also, a lot of psychological pressure about finishing a string or not, for more magic 4 setups... well he used to be a Law clone after all.
@IzNebula
@IzNebula 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with db3 having great frames, sure it's plus but the move is so slow to come out, you'll get CH before even hits the opponent a lot of the times. Look at Jin's db4, i20 but it gives him +4 and CH knockdown then we look at Lee's db3 and it's +2, nothing on CH and it's the same speed. IMO, the risk outweighs the reward, unfortunately it's still his best low poke, cause db3+4 is even worse if you can believe that, in terms of start-up and you still have to use it for safety. The best thing about db3 imo, is the frames on block, it being -12 means it can't be launched by characters like kazuya that launch -13 reliably.
@memebump7612
@memebump7612 2 жыл бұрын
Got any funny clips to show us in the future? I've always enjoyed your Tekken videos.
@friendlykoala
@friendlykoala 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzNebula let me rephrase it : db3 has great frames for an unimpressive low that would usually be negative on hit. Bigger lows with a spark or a wobbling animation get respected because the frame advantage is noticeable, you precisely don't want db3 to be respected to get a CH. It just doesn't have the same function as Jin's db4 (Lee's db3+4 does, then I'd agree that it's not as good) Also the risk/reward ratio doesn't say much about how good a move actually is, if it did the optimal Kazuya would never use a hellsweep. That ratio is only thought about for creating mind games.
@friendlykoala
@friendlykoala 2 жыл бұрын
@@memebump7612 hi there :D Well I have a lot of ideas but not enough time to create the content, I'm working on a mixup analysis and compilation, but yeah... need time to record every idea (and find a good prey for each one lol) edit : also too much Jack-7 content, having had too much fun with him last time I played
@LeiChaobruh
@LeiChaobruh 2 жыл бұрын
@@friendlykoala most lows like that high crush and are much faster than Lee's db3, it absolutely should be thought of more like a pressure building low than a panic move, just like Kazuya,Jin,Kazumi db4
@Lezure2010
@Lezure2010 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourites since TT1. So hard to win with but feels excellent when you do lol.
@philipgunter3717
@philipgunter3717 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Techu
@CosmicVoid420
@CosmicVoid420 2 жыл бұрын
8:20 "Pretty fast" i21 start up: Are you sure about that?
@miltakis12
@miltakis12 2 жыл бұрын
the way to the Excerrent is hard, full of blood, sweat and tears.
@royjewell199
@royjewell199 2 жыл бұрын
TMM blesses me by making a video on my main (I'm very new to Tekken, only been playing since May, probably should've picked an easier main but idc)
@Blaze-ow8cc
@Blaze-ow8cc 2 жыл бұрын
I started with Lee too xd
@hanchellasik
@hanchellasik 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a movie where the villian was taunting the hero with five fingers but the hero taunted him back with only index finger. Lee hitman stance is that taunt and its super cool to me as a kid. Memories bring back.
@Pikachu-qr4yb
@Pikachu-qr4yb Жыл бұрын
Name?
@hanchellasik
@hanchellasik Жыл бұрын
@@Pikachu-qr4yb I don't remember the name.
@WambwneD
@WambwneD 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone who plans to main Lee or started, watch IamYourFather's very very essential video " how to use acid rain and mist trap" and be enlightened.
@ytuser0110
@ytuser0110 2 жыл бұрын
And you can make perfect Takumi Fujiwara cosplay with him.
@kyler1088
@kyler1088 2 жыл бұрын
17:31 iirc delaying the blazing kick does more dmg. vr nice
@crush7745
@crush7745 2 жыл бұрын
lei chaobla top 4
@WambwneD
@WambwneD 2 жыл бұрын
I HATE TEKKEN
@kastytheone2007
@kastytheone2007 2 жыл бұрын
NICE COMBO
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE FUCK IS DAT?!!
@bespoke555
@bespoke555 2 жыл бұрын
As a Lee player I wouldn’t say he’s top 10 more like top 15-20. He’s a character based all around controlling space, playing in the midrange and countering. His offense is not that great basically only 50/50 mixup with slide and WS 2,3. If you want to get the most out of him you need to master that slide mix up and Acid rain which helps reset the space between the opponent because his combos are actually weak. He has excellent counter hits but that means you need to know the matchup, know the frames, have great movement and have great defense otherwise you will get pummeled. You cannot mash buttons with him or have easy panic moves because he’s extremely fundamental. I recommend checking out fightinggm he’s better than imyourfather.
@FuryLima
@FuryLima 2 жыл бұрын
His combos aint that weak budd, he can get almost 80dmg + with walls on every launchers, thats decent and above average, his wall carry is good too, combined with all his ch And I would say that even if d3 is -15, it's a great panic tool because of the evasion, it doesnt work on side steps tho thanks for that Acid rain isnt even meant to be mastered since he has punishes for those who can't get the timing on it, it's obviously a gold one before -15 if you can do it, but not necessary needed 50/50 mix up is good but not that great at the same time, since it's kinda the same as Akuma's one, just backdash away and the only stuff that will happens is a whiff, it acts better as a keepout 50/50 like Akuma's one, if he run up to your face for crouch you have all the pleasure to get him with mids, it's better once he gets you to the wall, but again it's not that easy to set it up, unlike Kazuya's one But then he defo need some work to put this stuff in real match conditions, but as I always refer to, execution and difficulty is just something to forget because when you decide to main a difficult character you'll have to be good with that hardest stuff
@er7776
@er7776 2 жыл бұрын
Im getting tired of Lee players downplaying him. He is clearly top 10 because the opponent will not be focussed on fighting you because Lee is too stylish and enjoyable, if you do enough justframes they might even drop their controller and shake your hand.
@bespoke555
@bespoke555 2 жыл бұрын
@@FuryLima I would say other characters get better damage. That 80 damage wall combo would be 100 by other characters. The problem with Lee is that you have to play reactively with him to win, you have to play very fundamental Tekken with him and it’s hard to create pressure with him. I would say the top 10 characters in Tekken give you the option to play both aggressively and reactively but Lee limits you to mostly playing reactively/defensively.
@bespoke555
@bespoke555 2 жыл бұрын
@@er7776 haha if you put it that way I agree. Whenever I watch fightinggm play Lee it’s the most beautiful Tekken
@oreowithurea5018
@oreowithurea5018 2 жыл бұрын
His combos are not weak, it's the compete opposite if you have the execution to do them
@joseph7116
@joseph7116 2 жыл бұрын
Gmfizzle is the best Lee in the world and rates him as mid tier. It's interesting to see how non-Lee players rate him so high. I'd like to see a conversation with Lee enthusiasts and top players to see where the conversation would go.
@nguyendang5593
@nguyendang5593 2 жыл бұрын
Nope,Imyourfather is the best Lee in the world
@joseph7116
@joseph7116 2 жыл бұрын
@@nguyendang5593 and no one is telling you that you can't think that.
@MrDxfusion
@MrDxfusion 2 жыл бұрын
Because people that actually play the character understand the intricacies and difficulties of maining that char. On the other hand people tend to downgrade how good their main is. You'll find it's somewhere between the two, He's not top 10 and he's not mid tier, he's in between.
@GINeric_
@GINeric_ 2 жыл бұрын
Been a Lee main since Tekken 5. Thanks for giving him his credit
@feb14loose
@feb14loose 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips. I felt so stuck knowing only three combos and the ten hit combo. You didn't tell his secret technique to instantly do a down 3+4 which is just insane damage on good defense players
@robchowder5611
@robchowder5611 2 жыл бұрын
Did it on accidentent one time and I was like "bro..... what the fuck did I just do!?"
@hanchellasik
@hanchellasik 2 жыл бұрын
D+4 ~ 4~3+4 . Quick Inputs needed between D+4 ~ 4~ 3+4 and strict timing . But its an unblockble High and can be ducked.
@FuryLima
@FuryLima 2 жыл бұрын
You can also do crouch cancel b3,3 to pick up on 1+2, I'd rather not go to hitman since his movement is locked in hitman stance But yeah Lee is underated at all, I thought this after his d3 buff when the move became a ch launcher, he has alot of evasion on many of his key moves, and despite execution, that's bullshit to talk about execution because when you choose to main a difficult character, you'll have to be good on this particular stuff, people been sleepin' on Lee for alot of time But I also should add that Lee's 50/50 is way more dangerous to set up because it's a full crouch mix up, where Kazuya can throw you invisible hellsweeps, in most case you can just back dash away from Lee doing his dash when crouched, and suddenly it becomes a less effective 50/50, powerful at the wall only
@robchowder5611
@robchowder5611 2 жыл бұрын
Running 34 crouches on startup, and jumps over lows and rage drives. Running 34 also cancels into HMS for an almost guaranteed UF 4 followup or oki mixup, and leaves the opponent crouched on block. Great move you didn't mention.
@matthewtonna1
@matthewtonna1 2 жыл бұрын
You’re almost 200k subs, make sure you do a special video about it tmm 😛
@onikageTK
@onikageTK 2 жыл бұрын
I always get blown up by Lee his keep out tools are so strong
@seju8141
@seju8141 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite character
@elloitsjello3337
@elloitsjello3337 2 жыл бұрын
Always thought Lee was cool, but I never played him because of how hard he is
@z4twicks406
@z4twicks406 2 жыл бұрын
Due to the same reason I dropped him and picked steve. Steve compared to lee is way easier also lee was my first character to play and mained him cuz of his style.
@Torrak.
@Torrak. 2 жыл бұрын
I only play him because he is hard haha I love the challenge, if it comes easy I get bored. :)
@filiprafaelcichonski2948
@filiprafaelcichonski2948 Жыл бұрын
You can't really pressure him since he is so evasive and if you block one move, he can basically push you across the hole stage because almost every move is completely safe on block
@xyphale
@xyphale 2 жыл бұрын
Lee was my main character on tekken 6 but his max damage is so hard in tekken 7.
@cookiecutter6735
@cookiecutter6735 2 жыл бұрын
I believe about 30 characters are in the top 10.
@geese1717
@geese1717 2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Vanilla character for sure but closer to top 15 when entire cast is included. T7 nerfed his ws launcher which did suck and makes it hard to adapt from older tekken games imo but the ff and bb4 launchers and d3 ch launch are amazing buffs.
@jinkazama7587
@jinkazama7587 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is a relic of Tekken, I'm surprised Harada he didn't gender swap him and named him Katarina.
@HumbleHurricane
@HumbleHurricane 2 жыл бұрын
14:02 Law tactics ✊🏿
@golayath137
@golayath137 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to those new players that tried to do Lee's sample combos but can't for the life of them (me)
@PSLchris90
@PSLchris90 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a lee main and i think his 1+2 is the most underrated homing move in the game. I spam it a lot and it works so many times. Finally someone who says he is probably top 10 character. He is hard as fuck in online matches if you don't play at 5 bars because you need to be an execution surgery...anyway, i think he is not harder than hei and yoshi for example when you play at high level. Very strong character and so underrated but so fucking cool and fun to play and watch!!!
@misterjersey5460
@misterjersey5460 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT
@Danyboyx
@Danyboyx 2 жыл бұрын
Well made video. Nicely explains his conceptional play style. ❤️♥️
@warangelcpgamebreak
@warangelcpgamebreak 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is cool. After I played Katarina, I picked this guy up. I stopped Tekken 7 and didn't lab this guy, but i liked the machine gun kick and realized he's great off of that, but now you showed me my hunch was right. Time to lab.
@pao2cute
@pao2cute 2 жыл бұрын
Iamyourfather is quite good in using him I also used since TK6 due to his swag 😎😎😎
@tapuziyt2825
@tapuziyt2825 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is one of the most fun characters in tekken 7.
@Rhyhmx
@Rhyhmx 2 жыл бұрын
I saw so many videos of Kwis and others facing really good Lee's I always had this information bias that he's actually a pretty popular character to "main" especially at a high level of play.
@WambwneD
@WambwneD 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that he's super technical, to the point tournament players won't play him if there's alternatives that let you execute stuff more stress free. Even ImYourFather, probably the best Lee in the world, drops combos more than he would if he played Fahk or Devil Jin.
@can1as
@can1as 2 жыл бұрын
excellent
@afipia7
@afipia7 2 жыл бұрын
for the longest time, I always thought he was ridiculously strong but at the same time, I expect lee players to either keep doing gimmicks or drop a lot of stuff.. unless they have 2k wins and is a blue rank lmao
@camsterdam_709
@camsterdam_709 2 жыл бұрын
I love Lee. Since t4 and 5. Just made it to eternal ruler today
@vince3532
@vince3532 2 жыл бұрын
Lee’s d2 also launches on CH, but strict timing on the pick up
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, so strict that even Father barely uses it
@guuji1876
@guuji1876 2 жыл бұрын
Lei Chaobla is vrvr fun to play
@pretzel_aksmash353
@pretzel_aksmash353 2 жыл бұрын
People definitely sleep on Lee but Idk about top 10 tbh. He can have a hard time opening especially defensive players up, he doesn't have many moves that leave him super plus and the lack of good command throws other than ff3+4 kinda hurts too
@Kwuivery
@Kwuivery 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, he doesn’t have anything to stop mashers really
@Adam7180
@Adam7180 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really care about his throw game, he has a punch parry that can switch sides if he is cornered into a wall, idk about Hwoarang, I usually duck the obvious highs and punish as hard as I can.
@jimdino77
@jimdino77 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree…. Great poking and lows definitely open up turtles….. deceptive pushback and Hitman setups,,, His only issue is combo execution
@yannaedc5934
@yannaedc5934 2 жыл бұрын
I can't juggle with him at all. But I find him the coolest character, followed by Steve and Hwoarang
@SpeedBleed
@SpeedBleed 2 жыл бұрын
Lee, Kazyuas proudest achievement
@simpleclonetrooper2740
@simpleclonetrooper2740 2 жыл бұрын
Lee and Law are my favorite characters.
@christophermarshall2362
@christophermarshall2362 2 жыл бұрын
Lee is my main because he's well rounded in everything!
@legend0945
@legend0945 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Tekken retrospectives
@ICEMAN-Z8
@ICEMAN-Z8 2 жыл бұрын
Hello adrian can u make a similar video about Hwoarang?
@MJfp6lx
@MJfp6lx 2 жыл бұрын
TMM i may be a normie who left on Tekken 6 because Tekken got extremely greedy and it continues to this day. But i have to say your top 10 includes the entire roster. the actual tournament top 10 are actually mostly 3-4 characters at most. As much as you're trying to hard sell shit characters you have to put Lees in the context of Julia,Leroy,Fakhumram,Zafina,Geese,Akuma and Devil Jin and there's no doubt they just outclass the roster. It's pretty much a theme now for Tekken that the newer characters are a bit too well rounded and some of the older roster due to glaring weaknesses and one trick pony type gameplay just can't keep up anymore with the newer ones even at the hands of experts. When's the last time Knee won a tournament with Bryan ? exactly and he's counted amongst the stronger ones in T3 golden age roster
@disonreigns
@disonreigns 2 жыл бұрын
There will be many lee players on ranks in following couple of days (that wom't last long because as difficult he is)
@miltakis12
@miltakis12 2 жыл бұрын
well i'll wish them good luck ^^ not even mainman showed his optimal combos...
@disonreigns
@disonreigns 2 жыл бұрын
@@miltakis12 hahahaha Agreed I'm playing lee since season 3 i know lee is good but not against brain dead characters and mashers in rank
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
@@miltakis12 his lee combos are pretty trash tbh lol, love you Adrien!
@miltakis12
@miltakis12 2 жыл бұрын
@@disonreigns actually lee loves mashers(or me at least) i dont know what you mean he will counterhit the fuck out of you.
@disonreigns
@disonreigns 2 жыл бұрын
i don't know but i faced hard times using lee against leroy fahkumram zafina marduk alisa and many more cheap characters
@pfuze_5775
@pfuze_5775 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked this character up
@Hosein8569
@Hosein8569 7 ай бұрын
the reason he's underrated imo is that for alotta people having fun with him requires them to spend time learning him for a long while. which makes them rather invest in easier characters so they can have fun from the get go. either way i have respect for Lee mains
@Nkodtb
@Nkodtb 2 жыл бұрын
WOOAH
@ThaBlueNinja
@ThaBlueNinja 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, you say b4 is busted but what would you replace it with since that it is his best move?
@sooya1329
@sooya1329 2 жыл бұрын
I know b+4 is a good keep out, but for some reason, EWGF can beat that shit anytime if the distance isn't that great. Hell I ate lots of EWGF by trying to initiate keep out lol. I dunno but that's based on my damn experience playing against Mishimas
@jovannyahumada7867
@jovannyahumada7867 2 жыл бұрын
Every damn time 🥲
@temjin0014
@temjin0014 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if the 1 jab was actually +8 on block (15:09).
@rayzorduality2396
@rayzorduality2396 2 жыл бұрын
Finally my main gets the attention he deserves... Excellent!!!
@xxwhatevahxx
@xxwhatevahxx 9 ай бұрын
I dont know why he is underrated, except for the fact of hard he is to master he is i think the most stylish, coolest character + fighting style.
@themaplepony
@themaplepony 9 ай бұрын
Why is that down+3 counter hit launch so fucking hard, everything else about Lee is already hard enough
@thondush
@thondush 9 ай бұрын
that pickup is doable, the d2 pickup is hell compared to that
@juniorfanti3005
@juniorfanti3005 10 ай бұрын
Been playing Lee From earlier in the year and got the ruler tier and I must say he’s not as hard as people make him out to be. He’s execution is more rhythm based than speed. I must say he struggles with come backs but he’s EXCELLENT at punishing and whiff punishing easily top 10
@Eggroll3s
@Eggroll3s 2 жыл бұрын
The dead by daylight videos where you're just funny and chill, as well as character/game overviews, are some of the best videos you post. Super informing and entertaining, keep it up Adrian
@jesmarkmikesell1957
@jesmarkmikesell1957 2 жыл бұрын
His magic 4 is hilarious. Tried spamming this as a troll
@dowzjohn4011
@dowzjohn4011 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing, you can give him the replica costume of K' from KOF "EXCELLENTE"
@Kidame
@Kidame 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@backspacefixedit10
@backspacefixedit10 Жыл бұрын
My MAIN!
@pakistanitaly9229
@pakistanitaly9229 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, why u r avoiding reviewing CEO 2021 TEKKEN matches?
@yakisoba1816
@yakisoba1816 2 жыл бұрын
In yellow to red ranks i rarely fight lee but whenever i do those lee player are iamyourfather clones they are soo good!
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 2 жыл бұрын
That's cuz to make it anywhere with him in ranked you have to dedicate so much time that you are at least gonna be decent lol
@josetojoestar7533
@josetojoestar7533 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad that Lee is worth the time and effort put into him
@MasamuneIceDragon
@MasamuneIceDragon 2 жыл бұрын
This character gave me nightmares as a Lars main.
@jR0xas
@jR0xas 2 жыл бұрын
He used to be discount Shaheen in season 1.
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