The Mother of Vampires? 🧛‍♀️ Instruments of Fear - Elder Scrolls Lore

[@YourWaywardDestiny]

Vaemina is benefitted by the fear and nightmares, Namira is benefitted by the decay and rot, Hercine is benefitted by the hunt, Nocturnal is benefitted by the strict shadow prowling... Wow, no wonder Molag Bal is considered chief among the Daedric princes, he really gave a nod to a lot of his fellow princes with this one monstrosity.

[@eyeballz5970]

i think peryite can be added to the list too, he benefits by having disease spread

[@johndanes2294]

@@eyeballz5970 I don't think so personally. Vampires fuck up the natural order that Peryite tries to maintain.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Facts man, truly a Monstrous Lord

[@Itsabl_r]

I'm sorry, I read chef, and assumed the thought process was him in a white chef hat and apron, 'kiss the cook', and he just takes all the ideals of other daedric princes and pulls a Power Puff Girls.

[@H.Liddell]

@@Itsabl_r lmao 🤣😂

[@booshmcfadden7638]

Dear Dawnguard DLC, You killed several of my favorite NPCs. Arcadia was the best alchemist. Adrianne was only a few doors down. I was going to marry Carlotta. All taken from this world by wretched vampires who seemed to teleport in. And Nazeem, friendly, cheerful Nazeem, met his end as well...after I decapitated him in a rage when he asked if I got to the cloud district while standing on Adrianne's corpse.

[@thrax-x]

Weren't vampire city attacks patched? Still F for your friends 🙏

[@shadowstrider5033]

On the plus side, it was entertaining to see the city get wrecked by vampires while i enjoyed the show. Dragons can never do that right. On the other hand birna got stuck outside due to ranmir dying due to a vampire attack before his talk script finished so I can't use her shop services.

[@pahema472]

@@shadowstrider5033 Ah, yes. And once again thank you, Bethesda. :/

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@thrax-x tbh I miss the Vampire attacks on cities. It wouldn't have been as annoying had they programmed every snowberry in clothes to run away from danger. Instead, they charge headfirst into battle, armed with nothing but an iron dagger, attempting to slay a daedra spawn that's overtly superior to them in stats. Its hilarious when I'm playing a morally gray, or outright evil character tho 🤣. Outside of bethesda's shortsightedness, gotta give the citizenry credit for having the balls to take on the sons of Molag with a glorified prison shank while in rags 😂.

[@Ellimist000]

@@shadowstrider5033 sounds like you need to download that black hole mod and activate it in whiterun and be done with it 😂

[@Vahmung]

In TES6 we should see a lot of different vampire clans in High Rock and potentially even involve ourselves into the potentially feuding clans and their political dilemmas. One thing is for certain though, turning into a vampire should be far more cinematic. They need to bring back the dreams like in TES2 and 3. Also the chance of being turned was always low except for in Skyrim where it seemed like a 50/50 chance. It should be more rare and something secretively sought out.

[@yaldabaoth2]

Here goes the hype. You will be disappointed if you don't lower the expectations. I would already be happy if we get a main quest that actually has impact on the game world.

[@Vahmung]

@@yaldabaoth2 I just want TES6 to be here already... I have a lot of expectations on more of a story sense and what can be done or who you can interact with. I don't care about graphics or dynamically changing world. I can do that with my mods at the end of the day.

[@swimmingtrunk8216]

Honestly, if they were to do vampire clans in a similar manner as to Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, then they may be able to redeem themselves as an actual RPG game making company.

[@BradPeirson]

I've heard the vampire genesis story more times than I can count. But just now a problem with it occurred to me: Molag was challenging Arkay. But Arkay didn't exist yet. Wasn't he an Alessian invention?

[@actualartist3082]

@@BradPeirson lmfao, youre clearly not an ES fan

[@delicathvrenitah4282]

Theoretical conjecture: Part of Vaermina's dealing with Bal in the creation of the vampires was that they experience Nightmares- as seen in older ES Games- thereby feeding her not just with the idea of them causing fear, but they being personal batteries to Vaermina as well. Just a thought. Good video 👍

[@thalmoragent9344]

Vaermina: *"Hey, um... you mind, Molag? Ive seen your Vampires and I uh, I got a request..."* 👀

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

I think fear and insecurity is implicit to Molag Bal's abusive personality motif, because fear and insecurity is how abusive personalities reproduce themselves. Vaermina would absolutely have a field day with the already paranoid dreams of vampires, exacerbating their torment to make them even more cruel in waking, but also would know the cure would be to break that cycle of fear - potentially even taking the form of a genuinely blissful sleep.

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@thalmoragent9344 for all we know, Molag and Vaermina may have had a spicy history together 😂

[@leobaron9417]

@@lazilycatharticone4191 do you have any source for this? I'm interested

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@leobaron9417 lol nah its just speculation, seeing as Molag wasn't above smashing Vivec's head for an hour.

[@DMarkond]

I've always had this theory that all the Princes had a hand in their creation. Meridia gave them the weakness to the sun and its pure light, Azura made them sleep between her times of dusk and dawn to give mortals a fighting chance, Sheogorath gave them the madness they experience when starved, Hircine made them hunter that is hunted like his werebeasts, Vile gave them their ability to pass for mortal(which is mentioned in Oblivion for its unnamed clan), Dagon gave them their destructive urges, Namira made them revolting and corpse like to look upon when starved, Boethia their scheming nature, Mephala the seductive charm, Sanguine the sensual pleasure of feeding, Peryite that spread of the curse by disease, Nocturnal is their ability to see in the dark as easily as the day, Malacath their nature as outsiders, Vaermina is their nightmares as you said, and Bal is the one who brought all those aspects together.

[@DMarkond]

@@feitme I could see Molag Bal in his arrogance inviting them all to take part, even the ones against their creation. Azura and Meridia did what they could but could only give a single gift.

[@Dinoenthusiastguy]

Drew: describes the violent and horrifying violation of an innocent woman followed by a bloodbath Jeremy Soule: 🎵🎶🌙🌕🎵

[@thalmoragent9344]

Lmao, welp, Soule's gotta touch your Soul, eh?

[@oiytd5wugho]

I mean, allegedly that is kinda up Soule's alley

[@Dinoenthusiastguy]

@@oiytd5wugho 😬

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@oiytd5wugho Wait, what do you mean?

[@oiytd5wugho]

​@@thalmoragent9344 just a distasteful joke. If you don't know the context, Soule got accused of multiple sexual crimes, from groping all the way to the R word

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

I'm pretty sure the cruelty of vampires is more just implicit to Molag Bal's personality, and a natural psychological result of how they're made. Molag Bal is an abusive personality motif, which reproduces itself through the fear and insecurity it instills. Abusive personalities often spawn abusive traits in their victims, and that's what's happens to most vampires.

[@Ellimist000]

In my head Cannon, all vampire's souls are replaced with a vestige that is a part of Molag Bal/Cold harbor. It also makes the idea of a black soul gem being needed for the cure make sense

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@Ellimist000 Honestly the black soul gem as a means of "removing a part of yourself you don't want" or basically personality changing is kind of cool.

[@fatty1040]

Well he did say they become corrupted. Its most likely all the meanings. Body, mind, and soul. A whole transformation.

[@Draco-pv8ie]

As someone who's played Oblivion numerous times, I have experienced both becoming a vampire by choice, and being infected by accident. I was the righteous hero, accidentally killed a fellow mages guild member, got infected trying to get vampire dust. Didn't even know until it was too late. The Idea of a good vampire living a normal life in daylight hadn't crossed my mind until I was doing it. I saw it as a blessing in disguise. I wouldn't feed for days, then charge into an oblivion gate. This was before I downloaded any mods, years ago now. Couldn't feed on blood bottles, so sure, I would break into a person's house in town, and feed, but I figured the blood (or lack rather) was helping me close oblivion gates. Small price to pay. "Be not overcome with Evil, but overcome Evil with Good." and all that. Martin Septim said himself, "The Gods can transmute anything to Good." Next time you think about killing bloodsuckers for the Gods, remember, some of them didn't have a choice. And some of them might be The Divine Crusader and Champion of Cyrodiil. Food for thought.

[@birdiepitchfeather63]

Sometimes the best parts of a playthrough are the things you never planned for

[@cidkronic]

You would appreciate ravenwatch from eso.

[@ReaverofSouls7]

In tes6 I hope we meet Lamae like we did in eso. Maybe we get different types of vampires, that'd be awesome

[@MartianMothman]

Valenwood would be the best place for that cause as far as I know it’s the only province with multiple types of Vampires

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@MartianMothman the Iliac bay is host to several different vampire clans, each with their own special abilities: the Anthotis, Garlythi, Haarvenu, Khulari, Lyrezi, Montalion, Selenu, Thrafey, and the Vraseth. These clans inhabit their own regions of Highrock/Hammerfell and strong rivalries are present. With TES:VI seemingly being either of these two provinces, there's plenty of room for multiple variations. Although I suspect that Bethesda may water down the clans for convenience, so some will probably be weeded out or incorporated into other clans.

[@badluck5647]

@@MartianMothman The Morrowind game has three different vampire clans. Cyrodil is also the the only province that claims to having only one vampire clan.

[@otterbaby7769]

@Nathan Arsenault what mod is this?

[@badluck5647]

@@bonda3rd150 No. All the rogue vampires you kill around Skyrim aren't part of the Volkihar line. Meanwhile, all rogue vampires in Cyrodil have been killed off by the Order.

[@shun2240]

This guy is the reason I always replay skyrim goddammit

[@VerdantJedi]

Go play it now...

[@shun2240]

@@VerdantJedi already am

[@VerdantJedi]

@@shun2240 Good... Make sure it's 9000 hours...

[@shun2240]

@@VerdantJedi i think its already more than that... been playing since 2015

[@VerdantJedi]

@@shun2240 VERY Good......

[@grayson243]

As someone that enjoys playing as a vampire i often remember a wise dragon once said "What is better - To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature though great effort?"

[@placeholdername3818]

Except in the case of Skyrim you choose to become a evil creature for selfish reasons. Ofc regular vampirism is a different story. But most players never choose regular vampirism over being a vampire lord.

[@grayson243]

@@placeholdername3818 half true. Being a vampire in Skyrim can be a choice. Merely being a vampire is not evil. Vampires drink mortal blood, does not have to kill prey and uses blood magic to kill enemies. Mortals have a choice to eat meat that they had to kill an animal for (something most mortals do). They also use weapons and magic to kill enemies. Difference?

[@shadowstrider5033]

@@placeholdername3818 Meh. We all all evil from someone else's perspective. If I can become an immortal creature who is immune to poisons, diseases and have superior physical, sensory and magical capabilities at the cost of drinking blood once in a while, I could care less about the opinion of close minded mortals. That is the worldview I'll use in any games where I play as a vampire.

[@placeholdername3818]

@@shadowstrider5033 I was more talking about the Vampire Lord where you sell your soul to a factually evil Deadric Prince. Ofc regular vampires are a grey area.

[@shadowstrider5033]

@@placeholdername3818 Technically it's your soul to sell so is it really evil? It's stupid to sell out your soul to an obviously evil daedra but it's not really evil. I think you mean pure bloods since blood scions can access vampire lord as well. Even then, only Harkon had done something as evil as sacrificing a thousand 'innocents' as far as we know. Other pure bloods probably did their own thing to get their vampirism from bal.

[@Piemonster48]

Morvarth the vampire hunters has the same name as an ancient vampire in Morthal

[@anthonym840]

Well that's because, it is him. The old priest turned him. Read "immortal blood" that is where u will find the story of Movarth.

[@thepunisher4507]

Always found his story rather tragic.

[@ErnestoCifer]

Vampirism in the Elder Scrolls universe is really interesting lore-wise I'm think there can be an interesting storyline where the MC is caught between morally right Vampires and black and white mentality monster hunters, similar to the Silver Hand

[@albertmilton9424]

So Dawnguard.

[@pelinalwhitestrake4196]

@@albertmilton9424 Except the Volkihar are in no way right.

[@albertmilton9424]

@@pelinalwhitestrake4196 no, but Serana and Valerica are. When you take over you can easily say you are a "good" vampire.

[@pelinalwhitestrake4196]

@@albertmilton9424 You cant be a good vampire unless you don't feed on anyone but the willing. Serena's mom probably isn't good AT ALL. Her love for her daughter, or her spitefulness towards her husband doesn't make her moral. She deals withe the Ideal Masters, shes evil. Serana is more of a victim than a good guy, shes only a hero in the sense that she helps TLD, and she could help TLD be a pos.

[@hoodedone8547]

Vampires are really monsters in vanilla Skyrim. You don't remember the caves? It was just as bad as walking into a daedric gate in Oblivion. Corpses littered everywhere. I remember being utterly disgusted by what vampires would do to their victims. I used to kill them asap until I found out about the fortify alchemy glitch.

[@S-Jin-Wooo]

Whenever I see vampire videos on fudgemuppet I just get so excited, vampires and werewolves from TES are my favorite love all your videos

[@winwinstead4335]

There is also lore out there in ESO where the Khajiit credit Sanguine for vampirism, I think. Makes me wonder if maybe Molag Bal work with Sanguine on a strain of vampirism in Elsweyr too. Or perhaps he had multiple collaborations with other Daedric Princes to make different forms of vampirism.

[@trashynecromancer1155]

Perfect timing while I start my new Vampire build

[@kronksdiablo3742]

What Race do you think would make the most powerful Vampire? I’m thinking Brettons.

[@trashynecromancer1155]

@@kronksdiablo3742 Orc. The already formiddable strength and durability of the Orsimir combined with the greater power that comes form a Vampire? Brutal.

[@lauriobaptista7210]

@@trashynecromancer1155 don't forget vampires are magical creatures

[@MrKroogur]

@@kronksdiablo3742 Defensive build: Dunmer due to fire resistance and Offense build: Orc or Nord due to high strength/endurance as Jhalyn mentioned. And Khajit for hybrid build with a good balance of natural stealth ability and unarmed attacks due to claws ,further boosted by vampirism is a devastating build.

[@abattlecatfromakavir]

Movarth was such an accomplished Vampire Hunter and so skilled a fighter that he killed dozens of the most dangerous Vampires with his bare hands. Yet when the Dragonborn fights him in Morthal, he's total fodder. He should have been nearly as powerful as Harkon.

[@nazgul195]

I have to agree with you there. They did Movarth dirty making him fodder.

[@SirAshford]

I always enjoy a vampire video in Elder Scrolls. Thanks Drew!

[@Italiangentleman2394]

Literally everybody: no Malag bal: we're off to a great start

[@fyraltari1889]

Vaermina and Bal having sex is not an image I was expecting to receive today. I'm also not sure where you got sex from the word "discussion". I think Bal just had to buy the cure, either in trapped souls or with whatever else he has Vaernima could want.

[@WHITEDIRTProductions]

It feels like It’s been so long since I’ve heard a real Drew lore video. Drew’s lore videos are what first pulled me in.

[@IrishIronArmalite]

Dang, awesome video my good Daedrologist! Keep up the work, stay warm at the College, and happy Yuletide season to you Fudgemuppet boys!

[@Itsabl_r]

Would love to hear more stories by you guys on Vampires, unfortunately there's only so much to tell as of now. Looking forward to the next podcast!

[@crazychicSHENA]

As a nord player I've killed Lots of vamps in Skyrim and now I have just a little more respect for vampires in the lore 😔😭😆

[@anthonym840]

I play a lone Dawnguard who worships arkay. I usually kill them on a regular. I've heard their lore and love the lore. But it dosen't change the fact that those, blood eaters kill my venders every single time i play. Lol they get the silver. No exceptions.

[@alter6243]

I play as vampire a lot. Usually I tend to make my vampire character act a specific way depending on the backstory I made for my character and when I become a vampire. In my current playthrough I'm playing as a morally grey Witch who had to flee her home because they tried to kill her in fear. Now she desires power so she can never be uprooted again which is why she wants to become a vampire. She still joins the Dawnguard however as she knows most vampires are evil and could be a potential threat to her.

[@anthonym840]

@@alter6243 hey as long as you don't kill my venders, or my homeboys and homegirls in whiterun . your okay with me. Lol

[@alter6243]

@@anthonym840 Don't worry they're safe. Only reason I'm a vampire is for the immortality. Sven is my cattle.

[@anthonym840]

@@alter6243 I'm not protecting Nazeem lol I'll lock him in the Dawnguard dungeons so u can also cattlize him if u want. 👍

[@MrDelferi123]

So when daddy Bal and mommy Vaermina hate each other very much, they engage in violent, vigorous discussion, and that's how vampires are made. Gotcha

[@pahema472]

Well done, young man. A breathtaking example that the English language can be beautiful not only in the written form, but to listen to when read well, and treated with respect. Thank you. And cheers, from the land Downundah. ;=

[@Sleepingwillow2006]

Now i cant stop picturing ball and vermina plaining up vampires over a cup of tea

[@xydian4282]

Please make all of your videos with the same tone an narration in the beginning of this video, with the music, and the nice calm narration, I could watch forever. PLEASE KEEP THIS NARRATION UP! PLEASE!

[@rudolphantler6309]

So wait, Movarth just approached a vampirologist priest and offered to test his theories against the kinds of vampires of the land? :D Real nice dude!

[@TheNecroFisherman]

Yea he met with a researcher/expert in the book and would test himself. One of the best books in the game. He’d use the researchers knowledge to hunt them. Wish there was more dialogue or a larger story from him tho

[@michael.waddell]

Man, you guys have THE best job and DO the best job when doing it. Keep it coming!

[@muslimcrusader5987]

Become a vampire and enthral the Elves. Scare them out of Skyrim GG

[@familyguygaming_]

genius playthrough idea

[@Ammovampire]

Similar to ESO I would love a vampire skill tree in Elder Scrolls 6.

[@Mary_Beth_Reimer]

Yay - thank you Drew & Fudgemuppet! ❤️💙💜

[@imperialcityguard1756]

Can we get a series where you guys read the ingame books and journals, everytime you do you bring them to life and would he great to see more of it :)

[@vadersgirlfriend17]

Can you guys do a podcast on in depth vampires with vaermina? I love this so much I'd love to see a podcast or longer video on it and theories on vampires and vaermina. Thank you Drew! You're kinda my favorite. I love all of you guys though! Keep the content coming.

[@kallofkthuluz5922]

Nice timing, I am right in the middle of a Vampire play through! 👍🍺

[@georgenip5315]

Ahh it’s drew, the key to keeping balance between the fudgemuppet tribunal of lore scholars. Your voice is so calming, or are you just an imperial 🤨

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

He's kind of the Sotha Sil to Michael's Almalexia and Scott's Vivek lmao Drew's the quiet and mysterious one! Michael is the loud and straightforward one, and Scott is the loud and mysterious one!

[@nocturnal2284]

Serana: "Thank you for your kindness. I'll remember it the next time I'm feeling hungry."

[@prasselboll]

Your voice gave me goosebumps the whole video through!

[@aeternumcadens1777]

This might be TMI but when you described the collaboration between Vaermina and Molag Bal in the creation of abominations, I could help but to think of the nasty alien sex scene from "Species 2". Classic film btw highly recommend

[@jerichohill487]

Great video, always loved that book. Y'all should do a short on Palla.

[@Reaper1008]

This is almost word for word of the book ... Imortal Blood in game.... My favorite book in game.

[@starwarzfan49]

Fudgemuppet authored the unknowable Elder Scrolls. They are the reason why the moth priest loses his sight and why septimus loses his mind. Their combined lore beards are unfathomable and cannot be comprehended my mere mortal minds. Change my mind

[@cookiestamps101]

Wow man you are amazing at what you do when I first clicked in this video I did not think that I would like it but ive been hypnotized by ur videos great content yo🤟👍

[@badluck5647]

Vampires as tragic figures is always more interesting than stories that treat them like people blessed with superpowers.

[@avatariroh0543]

since we're on the topic of the Prince of Nightmares, I'm going to suggest the song Vaermina by Sheogorath. Found the band pretty recently when looking for Elder Scrolls themed metal.

[@lethalz9]

Thanks for the bedtime stories

[@blackwulf4396]

Amazing video entertaining and insightful if even speculative. I appreciate all the hard work you guys put into your videos keep it up and thanks

[@skay1992]

I have a soft spot for vamps after Serana. Always found it weird that there is -soooo- much tension between your character and her that the ending is kind of underwhelming. I wasn't expecting them to get down with eachother or anything, but if you're going to make romantic tension part of your story, at least plan on (pardon the pun) fleshing that narrative out

[@badluck5647]

Does every main character with a female companion have to end with romance?

[@starwarzfan49]

@@badluck5647 no but it's very common. It's also natural that two people spending time together and fighting side by side would develop a friendship or fondness for each other. Procreation is one of our most primal instincts. It's nature buddy

[@77wolfblade]

@@badluck5647 no.

[@badluck5647]

@@starwarzfan49 My point is that it is a predictable (& therefore boring) trope.

[@Merilirem]

@@badluck5647 No. But its not just female characters that give that option or assume romance.

[@lordrumble7028]

Absolutely love your ES lore videos

[@dylanbiggs3997]

Good timing since I started an evil vampire playthrough sometime back

[@Nova-jw6ju]

Tldw: Drew thinks that maybe Molag Bal and Vaermina did a cosmic bang and discussed the creation of vampires over some wine. Man now i want a drama show about the affairs of the Daedra.

[@jaspr1999]

The only thing I can think of that would prompt Molag Bal to agree to anything with any other Deadra Lord would be something that would benefit him for the rest of time. ... And the only thing I can see Molag Bal wanting is... Nothing. Unless it was something given to him that he wanted gone. Vermina would be fully capable of giving something akin to nightmares to another Daedric Lord and that is something that Molag Bal would very much want gone. Just a thought that goes along with what you're saying.

[@arwahsapi]

Secunda music fits the vampire lore so well

[@Krismac242]

I actually remember reading this book in one of the games. Back when I took the time to read instead of testing my new magic spells!

[@LovesCoffee]

Epic timeing guys!!! I was just watching dawnguard dlc vampire stuff. Epic lore.

[@fornax4676]

I love that story in the beginning

[@pelinalwhitestrake4196]

Have you heard of the dawnguard? vampire hunters or something

[@starwarzfan49]

In the old fort near riften

[@nowan6221]

Might consider joining up myself.

[@TheFlyWahine]

Nice video, i whould like more stories and content related to Mephala in ether ESO or other elder scrolls games. And tbh imo ESO whould be better to explore Mephala, her realm and what she does and so on.

[@LeonM4c]

So...audio books narrated by Fudgemuppet when??? Delicious voice, my guy(s)

[@exemplar7205]

There's a theory in ESO (where you can be the same bloodline as Malae) because of the way the bloodline works in terms of abilities (unaffected by the daylight but get stronger at night) the theory is that Hircine helped create the bloodline which is why its so unique and strong compared to the others, its always really interesting to me the thought of other princes effecting Vampire bloodlines.

[@Italiangentleman2394]

So this actually makes total sense vampires being predatory would be able to instill fear in others and also conquering their own fear would give them added benefits

[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

Volkihar vampires in lore: live underneath the ice in frozen lakes, rarely leaving them. Volkihar vampires in Skyrim: spend more than a minute underwater, start to drown.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Waterbreathing is a rare but cheap enchantment. Ironically, it's the cheapness that makes it rare because random drops for enchantments is level-dependent, so at higher levels, cheaper enchantments don't show up.

[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

@@DarkAdonisVyers Yes, but why do undead vampires need to breath? They should theoretically be able to survive underwater indefinitely without need of enchantments, which the lore seems to imply. Fortunately, with the proper mods or the PC console commands, this problem can be fixed.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@EyeOfMagnus4E201 It balances out that "vampires can't cross running water" thing because "running water" is really hard to tell from still water, especially in the context of a game.

[@EyeOfMagnus4E201]

@@DarkAdonisVyers I’d agree if these were “traditional” vampires (actually, there are so many different types of vampires in different nations folklore with different powers and vulnerabilities that perhaps “modern” vampire would be more appropriate) but Volkihar vampires aren’t modern vampires, and indeed, at least according to lore, “live” underwater. Being vulnerable to running water for water dwelling creatures seems counter-intuitive.

[@joshuamourning6650]

I hope Bethesda expands on vampires and keeps the vampire lords in the next game

[@monkiplatts9224]

lamae from vigilant will always be my headcannon

[@B1rdTheW0rd]

I love how we subtly shifted to a biology lesson. 😂

[@JCResDoc94]

*0:44** where was the priest's knowledge? o_0* -JC

[@TheNecroFisherman]

What I never understood after all these years was why does Movarth seem to be under the volkihar variant/distant bloodline? Sybille Stentor seems to have closer ties to the Cyrodilic Vampire Order (in appearance) than him.

[@tylerslick931]

I got a intersting What if theory. What if defiling Lamae was Molag's greatest mistake. Lamae along with worshipping Arkay she had always wanted a child. So Arkay gave her a special blessing and whispered in her ear "when your chastity is broken, your child will soon be born" Molag Bal defiled the women and before leaving Molag for Oblivion he felt this spark of a presence in the room. It was growing and emanating from her stomach. Molag had fathered a offspring. He shed the droplet upon her brow as a sign of defeat and ripped the growing fetus from her womb and left to Oblivion. It ended in a draw between Arkay and Molag.

[@gabr.7878]

If I was in elder scrolls is totally become a vampire, and try to figure out a way to get my soul sent somewhere else besides cold harbor

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

Your best bet would probably be soul trapping yourself in a Black soul gem, although you'd end up in the Soul Cairn. Not sure that's a preferable fate. Then again, you could always find and keep a cure on hand for when you finally want an exit. Although of immortality is your need, there are less soul damning ways to extend your life indefinitely through magical means within the Elder Scrolls universe.

[@anthonym840]

@@lazilycatharticone4191 manimarco's route was probably the most successful. Considering he became a god. Of course before that he was a lich. But he was successfully immortal with a less damning concept for afterlife. Only thing that was damning about his situation was the choices he made to create pacts with the Daedra.

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

@@anthonym840 true, but I guess the question is whether or not another mortal could achieve such a feat without the essence of a god? The heart of Lorkhan is gone, the Mantella was blasted into Aetherius. Maybe the Eye of Magnus?

[@callmekrause4556]

Chim is obviously the way to go. Although you might zero sum. Better than torture tho.

[@callmekrause4556]

Also yes Ik you probably wouldn’t even know about the possibilty

[@jacktheripper3524]

I´m a simple man. I see vampires on the tittle, I immediately like the video.

[@richardfelixsantos8240]

It'd be cool to have a province in tamriel ruled by vampires by es6 or a growing nation of vampires.

[@JustSomebody5]

Given that Sanguine has some Vampiric followers wouldn't that make him a sort of a, cool, uncle... 🤔

[@SubZer0891]

You guys just blew my mind lol

[@jonathanbusche8093]

Maybe the old leaked "Redfall" title hints at hammerfell/high rock facing severe issues with the aftermath of the sky being darkened from the events of dawnguars

[@TricksterPrince]

Vaermina is my favorite Prince, and I want to see more about her. She’s so mysterious and interesting.

[@Mina-Diamandis]

I hope we get to see the Manifesto Cyrodiil Vampyrum in TES 6 they seem really interesting and smart

[@rushennair692]

15:26 damn, even more than Jyggalag?

[@Jamesfrf]

Impressive! Drew, resident Daedrilogist and …uhh…meat scholar. 👍

[@heathen_ix8910]

Hey would you guys consider making a Buoyant Armiger build?

[@jaxonspry9191]

Do you think the next elder scrolls game should have level requirements when progressing in the main quest. This would force players to explore other aspects of the game

[@pippinpadhalopsicopolis995]

I love fudge muppet

[@ferring1413]

Where is the thumbnail art taken from?

[@ericthered4123]

This is awe... Good job man...

[@joeygwood]

Video actually starts at 3:50

[@ethanarc]

Hmm...This Daedreologist does good work

[@mjag2834]

The Empress of Vampirism Camilla Valerius!!!

[@crsmith6226]

You should do a video on the only khajiit to achieve CHIM, Maiq the Liar

[@starwarzfan49]

This one does not know what you are talking about. This one is a simple traveler ;)

[@methylpalladium388]

M'aiq is Toddhead

[@crsmith6226]

@@methylpalladium388 all praise maiq

[@brosephstalin2805]

What is the intro song called?

[@Jun-Kyard]

Secunda by Jeremy Soule

[@10Mymymymy]

whats up with the minecraft music XD

[@ethandalton8306]

*sees Fudgemuppet uploads at work*…..*quits job to watch new episode*

[@Cykred]

Be wary talking of the vampyr of Tamriel! Ye may awaken the eldest, capitalist bloodsucker, Todd of the Bethesda clan; opening, yet again, the realm of Skyrim to even more exploitation. The cacophony of the muppet minions, and other cackling content ghouls, fuels the Bethesda clan’s yearning to siphon ever more capital from the unwary and undiscerning Skinner-box sycophants of the Elder Scrolls. If you listen closely, at the witching hour, you can hear the rasping, whispering echo of, “It works! Buy! Buy it again!”

[@krissh5886]

Wonder now if Namira also had something to do with it.

[@thalmoragent9344]

(7:11) *"Of course the Vanguard of Magic was lead by the Elven Wizards. The Direnni, Ayleids, Altmer, Falmer, Chimer... the Mystics of the Dawn Magics, always accessible by the Mer of Nirn"* 🥲

[@rogertexter1910]

Personally I think all 3 deadric princes had a hand in the creation of vampires as there love of the hunt and there fear powers and there abomination tords living things so yea. I think it was Mulach bal vermina and hercine and Mabey Nocturna.

[@UrzuaTroskenia0369]

I guess vampirism in E.S. makes sense now. Vaermina's temple quest for the reason of not having interest in that daedric staff I have never selected taking the staff as an option, even if I'm role playing a fantasy I don't want to be reminded of shyte dreams or nightmares let alone plague others with them in fantasy simulation...usually I offer the traitor from that quest as an offering for the daedric ebony armor quest considering I killed his sect family and tough orcs, plus I don't feel as bad for doing so as appose to someone whom has done me or others no wrong, Erandur paid for the consequences of being a turncoat and lack of honoring "blood in, blood out", I wad just the debt collector, I wouldn't that kind of person watching my back.

[@lilbill2991]

Thematically it would make more sense for boethiah to be molag bal's ex although sometimes boethiah portrays itself as male, which might make it make even more sense actually lol

[@smithingbear7522]

Vampires in the Elder Scrolls universe are the best vampires.

[@demistr7435]

Wrong since Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines exists.

[@smithingbear7522]

@@demistr7435 VTM is a decent game with lore that's best when glossed over. Bloodlines was fun but it shares the same lore issues the rest of the world of darkness shares. The actual vampires of the game are just boring and not very powerful. I understand the purpose of the game is personal horror, body horror, and political horror but when your vampire is barely able to do the standard things like turn into mist without having a Story Teller that's willing to accept your "OP" character then it seems almost underwhelming. It works for what it does but it doesn't do the things that come standard with vampires in things like Elder Scrolls

[@thesepretzelssuckass247]

Castlevania>

[@smithingbear7522]

@@thesepretzelssuckass247 really? Seems kinda basic

[@clericofchaos1]

I think you could have cut the first 6 minutes from the video. The tale of morvarth doesn't really have anything to do with the origin of vampires or their reason for existence. I also think you're generalizing vampires a bit too much. Serana and the dragonborn seem like good enough people. there were a couple of vamps in oblivion that weren't entirely evil. Even the community of vampires in morrowind seemed like mostly good people who were just cursed. I'm sure there are more out there. Keeping to themselves and only feeding enough to survive or keep themselves disguised. In fact they may even make up the majority, but they go so far to keep their secrets that the bad ones are the most well known. From what i can tell, vamps are the exact same people after turning they were before turning. However, most people struggle to keep their darker impulses under control for fear of being killed or exiled, and vampires simply lose that fear. They feel empowered to do all the things they always wanted to do but were too afraid to try. Essentially, vampires in the elder scrolls are more like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in the original book than anything else. Not actually two different people, just one person with the freedom to be bad with little to no consequences.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Yeah, I think Drew is stretching this whole thing to make the Vaermina connection, and hoping to make Vaermina more popular and force Bethesda to flesh her out. But the reason not all vampires are equally as cruel is because their cruelty is a natural psychological consequence of how they're made. Abusive personalities instill fear and insecurity in their victims, which often inspires those victims to be abusive as well and continue the cycle. It's a perfect physical manifestation of what Molag Bal is! But since it's a psychological consequence, it's not a hard rule either - some vampires may process their transformation into monsters differently, and not necessarily exhibit those personality traits.

[@clericofchaos1]

@@monsieurdorgat6864 Yeah i mean, i wouldn't mind seeing her fleshed out a little more but trying to connect her back to vampires just doesn't fit. I'm still going with bad vamps were bad people though, that makes more sense to me.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@clericofchaos1 I guess that's a pretty typical religious perspective. I think it fleshes out things more when you start questioning WHY people do bad stuff. "Bad people do bad stuff" is kind of the easy but not very useful line of logic. The horror of Molag Bal is that the answers to why people do horrible things are very close to home, and can happen to anybody. Think about it - you've been attacked, brutalized, and turned into a monster against your will. Yet, society at large hates you - a genuine victim. Making things worse, the only way to even appear human on the outside to attempt normalcy is to give in to your hunger and become more of a monster on the inside. It's pretty natural most people would give up on the humanity that has already abandoned them, and quickly turn into a sadistic psychopath.

[@clericofchaos1]

@@monsieurdorgat6864 Ugh victim mentality is such a useless and pathetic way to look at things. Sometimes, bad things happen to good people, and there's nothing you can do to change that. So, why worry about it? Look evil is real and there are people out there who do bad things for no other reason than they enjoy being evil. Most serial killers fall into that line. Trying to find any deeper meaning is a waste of time.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

@@clericofchaos1 Honestly, only billionaires enjoy being evil. Unless your evil makes you rich, there's nothing to enjoy. The majority of people as mentally ill as you're thinking about (cartoon villains, honestly) are the way they are due to living a long, broken life. Turns out, compassion is actually a solution to real life problems, in the long run. I mean, violence is fun in video games and movies but it doesn't sound like you're talking about fiction anymore. Or maybe you have fiction and reality confused, and one authors lazy writing is your moral compass now lol

[@vasalbur]

I love vampires