The Multirole Fighter Britain and Sweden NEEDED! - JAS39C/A - War Thunder

[@24879067marshall]

Good to have a plane to aim for as I was starting to loose faith in the British tech tree. Currently suffering with a non spaded Squadron Harrier.

[@dangaming1563]

You can always aim to the future tornado and also the Indian stuff

[@bagofsunshine3916]

the Harrier GR.7 is pretty insane for CAS.

[@Juel92]

lose*

[@greystash1750]

The sea harrier is one of the best grinders in the game lol. No way you were suffering in that surely

[@forsakenshadow7655]

​@@dangaming1563the tornados are currently disappointing and I doubt the newer ones will change much

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

Justin the reason you hit that Roland outside of track range is the GBU-24 has inertial guidance. It will continue to track the last know location till impact. So as long as the target doesn’t move it will still hit. Whereas the GBU-10’s, 12’s and the 16’s will just lose it the moment you break track and assumes a dumb bomb trajectory. So typically when I use guided bombs I try to use the GBU-24’s for the anti air then use whatever I have left for tanks since you don’t have to evade tanks. (Unless it’s a 2S38 which you likely won’t know is shooting at you until it hits you)

[@BufferThunder]

The only difference between the two Gripens in game is that the Gripen A gets AGM-65As, and the Gripen C gets AGM-65Bs

[@TheSlovenlyTactician]

Yeah Gaijin was super lazy on the Gripen C. It has an expanded armory of PGMs and air to air missiles. I know AMRAAMs aren't in the game (yet) but the IRIS-T was operational before the JAS39C and it is compatible as a unique IR missile. It should also have something more than just the Skyflash. AIM-7M at least. I don't think South Africa ever even used Sparrows on their JAS39s since they were obsolete by the time they took delivery in 2006. Instead Gaijin just did another copy paste job.

[@TheSlovenlyTactician]

​@@dratsfoiledagain243 It's 25km* (citation needed) at altitude under ideal conditions against non maneuvering targets. On the deck where the game takes place 99% of the time it won't go much further than an AIM-9. And no the game isn't ready for missiles like that but that's what the specific SAAF Gripen C used until the A-Darter came out so if Gaijin doesn't want those weapons in the game they shouldn't be adding modern jets from 2008.

[@BufferThunder]

@@TheSlovenlyTactician The Gripen only used true BVR missiles, so not something like the aim-7s, more like the aim-120s

[@TheSlovenlyTactician]

Right that's what I assumed but I didn't know for sure if the specific SAAF Gripen C that's in the game used them as interim solutions between the R-Darter being retired and Martin BVR missiles entering service with the SAAF. I'm 99% sure they didn't tho since the Skyflash is just an AIM-7E2 which is ancient as far as missiles go.​@@BufferThunder

[@TheSlovenlyTactician]

Yes it'll perform better than an AIM-9 but low altitude it's not going that much farther especially because, and this is important, it's a video game and Gaijin can balance it. The Gripen C having the best IR missile wouldn't be abnormal since it is a 12.3 top tier jet from the newest patch.​@@dratsfoiledagain243

[@gavinbegamin4696]

To dodge the Aim-9M's, you have to spam the flare key and dodge while it's tracking because the seeker head turns off. The missile then predicts your future position while the seeker head is off, which is why a few flares do nothing against them

[@gonb3259]

Regarding the missile callouts/Fox codes: Fox 1 is used for SARH missiles, such as Aim-7. Radar missiles dependant on a direct radar lock from the jet firing them. Fox 2 is for IR guided missiles, such as Aim-9. Fox 3 is for entirely independent radar missiles, such as the Phoenix.

[@SussyImposter9856]

This is a great example of why you should play the Swedish Grippen, cus you'll actually have good teams and good tanks to back you up

[@PeterJ1851]

The sad part is, the Tornado was solely build for groundpounding and killing ships and GJ botched it. The tornado is able to fly 50m above ground and has a autopilot for it. I´m happy that UK got a good cas, but the tornado in real life should do the job aswell.

[@jacksonwarren]

The funnest and sneakiest way to turn off the radar in the Gripen is to put it in HMD mode then toggle the radar on or off from there. Also, if you’re not using your targeting pod to lock ground targets make sure you point it in any direction you want to spot enemies in. It will spot them up to 20km instead of the 8km spotting when you don’t use the pod

[@jonadolfsson7777]

FYI The figure on the fin is a Grip. Saab/Scania's logo animal. Where the name Gripen came from... "The Grip"

[@DR-pq6ki]

AFIK & FYI, 'Gripen' translates to 'The Gryphon'(or The Griffin/The Griffon) or if its a verb 'Arrested'/'caught' And 'Draken' -translates to the dragon or the kite. 'Viggen' translates to the bolt (thunderbolt) or the tufted duck. 'En Grip' ='one Gryphon'

[@amounifnd]

Probably one of the best planes in service at the moment. Lovely game play.

[@wheely_boi_6846]

Once again, ZA comes to the British tech tree’s rescue

[@MrEsphoenix]

To be fair, although they have only ever used a couple for training jet's, Britain is actually pretty involved in the development of the Gripen C and above, helping modernise it to NATO standard, providing armament and being an export partner, so it's worked out pretty well that they get one.

[@eQui253]

Not gonna lie... I love the looks of this beautiful aircraft

[@WhiskeyTuber]

It would be kind of cool if they made props harder to lock with IR missiles as they are inherently difficult due to their extremely low temp compared to a jet exhaust.

[@Jip.21]

I’m pretty sure they already are

[@angelofwar_7711]

They are very difficult to lock with non all aspect ir missile but all aspect missile like the AIM-9M in the video have no difficulties locking a prop from sub 3km which is normal because those kind of missile don't need much heat to lock on and sub 3km is still way closer than the distance they can lock a jet

[@jacksonwarren]

They are almost impossible to lock with IR missiles already. Do you even War Thunder bro?

[@prizrak-br3332]

The only thing mavericks are decent for now is taking out anti-air and even then they still fail some times, I actually got a non-penetration in a FlakRakRad a few days ago and it's not uncommon to get only critical hits in light vehicles. Also, I never use gears and I think it should give you a 1 minute repair time.

[@firestarteronyoutube5542]

18:08 AIM-9Ms are best dodged by flare dumping and changing course. the long and short is AIM-9Ms switch their IR seeker off if they detect flares and work off inertial guidance (unlike Magic 2s, and R-73s which reduce the Seeker FOV as it closes in on the target) - so actions on - *AIM-9M fired* are: *Disengage AB* -> *Deploy Flares* (as many as time allows, and ideally in a burst) -> *Manouevre to avoid*, so when the seeker switches back on, it doesn't find you, and the inertial guidance doesn't get it to slam into you. Beating Su-27s is a matter of not going high and getting close. They really, really, can't dogfight. With a meaningful weapons and fuel load anyway.

[@IngloriousMachines]

Bomb on Roland at 07:50 hit because the gbu24 has inertial guidance, it was gonna hit the point designated by the tgp.

[@xvphoenixvii5146]

with game departments, the art department 9/10 times always slap, Like with World of Warships or World of Tanks, their art and graphic teams absolutely go crazy, we all know who is getting paid the most..

[@amounifnd]

The Mig 23's were originally a variable wing fighter. They later got upgraded as fighter bombers but the radars weren't suited. They became the MIg 27 with modified nose code for ground based. So the original had decent maneuverability for its time.

[@theostrichbird9021]

23:18 I use gears when im not damaged, if you J out once you're stopped, you insta reload and can take off immediately without waiting for the timer

[@nenaddimitrov8182]

Introduction of most modern aircrafts demands the deployment of mid-long range aa systems who can be deployed behind the front(where tanks are battling with bigger tank maps).I think the systems like buk can move around the map while long range systems like patriot s300/400 should be deployed as stationary systems and is to player to choose where to put them

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

i think some AI SPAAs shoould spawn on ground RB maps outside the ground battlefield but close to it like on the PVE missions, a mix of guns and missiles AA depending on the BR, that way even if your team didn't spawn any AA yet, the enemy can't act as they want and shit on you, or at least they have to destroy the AA first which gives you another warning

[@kingkea3451]

Man I'm excited to use the Swedish one - just have the MiG-21 and JA37D to go before I can start grinding it too

[@villevejje]

i just noticed the giveaway was on my birthday which was the last time i played (before i started playing again for few days ago) just looking around on some plane videos and this one did look interesting so yes ima watch now

[@samuelrojasdominguez8535]

I'm in love with this plane , I never played top tier so much before , is so ez to get kills with and feels so much fun to fly 😁😎

[@neb1006]

Your afterburner looks wzy better than mine, are you using a mod?

[@tntfreddan3138]

Don't get why the Swedish gets the A-model and the Brits get the C-model

[@multimemer5317]

Btw Justin to dodge missiles R73: preflare or you just die Aim9m: flare and sharp turn Matra magic 2: preflare or you just die

[@AstralEmpyrean]

Justin. I know I asked on the last vid. But did you ever make the 8 page document on your research regarding the HSTV-L public. I'd love to read what you had compiled.

[@viper_xd4077]

nice video as always love to see some more air time in ground rb

[@shikikanaz4624]

for anybody wondering, yes, as justin said the free GE is legit however it does take a bit to get a large amount of GE

[@JustinPlaysTV]

I wouldnt be partnered with them if it wasn't xP

[@SovietBear4]

23:00 use ACM PD mode for the radar gunsight

[@user-qv6gp4ux1l]

i wonder how the typhoon (eurofighter ) would peform sins its nearly the same like the gripen but just got better engines that can accelerate in the supersonic range even without afterburner, and got to guidet bomb´s and aa missels .

[@jonadolfsson7777]

Depends on genereation as allways but they are close in performance thru the program. The Typhoon has more power but more drag. Basically the difference is payload...

[@jonadolfsson7777]

Brit's and Swedes always collaborated with technologies so the systems are quite similar.

[@daphydrake7899]

Jas39E can also go supersonic without using the afterburner due to an upgraded engine, think it's known as supercruse. But yes typhoon and gripen shares a lot of systems as well as missiles it can carry.

[@Runner357_TV]

All Gripens can super cruise on dry thrust, with 6 missiles on even.

[@lurtzy_]

thank you for not using a bomb fuse.

[@dragongod8481]

21:40 @JustinPlays since you dont know them let me educate you. There are three foxes. Fox 1, Fox 2 and Fox 3. Fox 1 means semi-active radar homing missle launched so for example the aim-7 and r-27(only radar versions) are both fox 1 missles. Fox 2 means heat seeker so aim-9(only ir guided versions) or r-73. Fox 3 means active radar homing missle so aim-54 or in the future aim-120. There is also a fox 4 used for guns but that is not used anymore in the modern era.

[@OllieRy321]

Gotta be more specific with the missiles as the R27ET is a heat seeker, the R27R and R27ER are indeed SARH missiles. Also not all AIM-9s are heat seekers, the AIM-9C on the F-8E is a radar guided AIM-9

[@dragongod8481]

@@OllieRy321 forgot abt that thanks, ill change it

[@derenzo9476]

why does your afterburner look different? do you have a graphics mod?

[@DecepticonBruticus]

'I don't know my foxes' Fox 1: Semi Active Radar Homing (Sparrows, R-27ERs, etc.) Fox 2: InfraRed (AIM-9s {except the C} and the like) Fox 3: Active Radar Homing (AIM-54, AIM-120, R-77, etc)

[@sinsley1]

18:03 R73/magic 2, you dont. you are dead. Aim9M keep popping flares and maneuver out of the ballistic flight path of the missile

[@monsterx7596]

Just asking if you know there is gun lead for aircraft in newer jets when you radar lock ? I'm asking that cuz you used balistic comp for ground when shoting at that SU-25 (around 22min of vid)

[@dropanukeonusaagain6606]

Britain has a tornado, a jaguar and a harrier

[@lahedlastname2122]

could you please do a video on the SU22M3 I’ve been to hell and back with it and still have no idea how to effectively use it 😂

[@Datboysickisboss]

I know how to use it… don’t…

[@omiotod]

Justin you need to get the apache mk1. Missing out pretty much the best helicopter in top tier

[@TEKI07]

Have you made a vid on the XP-50 yet? Absolute menace to bombers, double 20mm @ 600rpm

[@brendanharvey3583]

Wish they buffed the su 27 flight model

[@brianquinlan8891]

Gripen when 90’s fox 3 rb99 gets added will be so good

[@brickion]

Hey! I was wondering if you could play china top tier ground, and cas if you could! I hope to see this in a future video :)

[@TankboiDeng]

Everyone's talking about the, f15 when this jet is 10× better

[@wilhelmwolf7260]

Now it just needs an actual radar missile and I will be having a blast

[@derritter3873]

I’m about to grind Sweden just to get this. It’ll be a while until the Rafale is introduced, so might as well as grind another tree. Now when is it Japan’s turn though? Despite the fact I’ve been playing a lot of France lately, I main Japan and have completed the entire tree (except naval) and have played the game for quite a while, and yet, I have never used a single guided bomb in my life. That should tell how much the snail screwed Japan over in the CAS department. F-15J with JDAMs when. Or the GCS-1 modification for bombs on the T-2 and F-1.

[@DatFatThor]

Please play the Mirage 4000 next!

[@jacksonwarren]

The Mirage 4000 fucking slaps! Can drop bombs at any speed. Only major downside is no HMD which feels pretty rough at 12.3

[@yokoplayinggames7019]

3:00 Iirc, the British export variant gets worse missiles.

[@czerwony1420]

sweden and UK finally have a war heads on four heads dogfighter

[@pinkinpiark]

Im still at 7.0, gripen is my dream jet after

[@gameboosted007]

Idk whag it is but i never get the mach cloud when i go over mach 1

[@BJByochick]

Can we please get an SA tech tree

[@thomasm8130]

hey justin thanks for space bombing me at 20:49, i tried to fly by u later in that game but u shot me down...

[@DynamicOkami]

Gripen is such a smol plane

[@Happy-ok5qj]

good vid buddy, what is that decal under the cockpit? And where can i get it?

[@nick4819]

Also, Gaijin nerfs every western equipment. The stormer for example. Also, Ive seen multiple Pantsirs(basically a fucking normal truck) eat Mavericks like they were M80's. Its such bs.

[@u_nuub339]

What's the custom skin your using? That afterburner looks very nice!

[@fire_drake12.arc.24]

Really wish the Paveways on the A-6E worked like these but theyre still broken/bugged and i doubt they'll ever be fixed.

[@-Shadow__Rider-]

They need to seriously buff top tier AA!

[@hazegrayunderway8695]

lol I was the AH-1Z in the first match!

[@Nman924]

2400 lets goo ty

[@f22tempest20]

How was your Christmas Justin?

[@nightyouth3923]

Honestly i get more air kills in grb than arb! Arb is so boring specially the first part flying to the enemies aaaaaaargh! Btw great video❤

[@patrickwelch365]

This is so needed for Britain but ngl I prefer my f16c at CAS

[@sinsley1]

while i agree with you, it is so hard to play top USA right now

[@rcheek207]

nice looking guns if they ain’t plastic

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Nah they're prop guns used to scare away birds. (My lawyer informed me to write this)

[@rcheek207]

@@JustinPlaysTV pesky squirrels

[@Bombert54]

C gripen has hmd i think

[@serphil270]

bro 235 million SL 💀

[@DFDNDBY]

Saw you in mozdok

[@sherifshady9715]

Mirage 4000 plz

[@steventon7451]

What postfx do you use to get that wep fire effect?

[@zy7056]

Bro thought we cant see his sks ak and m4 in the background💀💀

[@thatoneguy1741]

Video on the VT4?

[@Wolffjaeger]

Hey justin what's that anime decal on the side of your plane

[@LarsMellema]

I use the code Al while ago does it stink count for the give away?

[@aaronho1914]

Love the plane

[@hernes0071]

i wonder how annoyed ground players are to those deaths.

[@user-sj8if1ry9m-IRAN]

in love JAS 39❤❤

[@HornetCinematics]

Nice video :)

[@Nico_o7]

lately i was lossing alot games like 8 games in a row idk but that seems like gaijin hates us bc teams are not even a little balanced to just happend this.

[@savoysnuffin-mo2ji]

I played with him playing the vt-4 I was roguephantom

[@smithmikel80]

How do you get that anime decal ive noticed it in a couple of vids?

[@raginghippo]

Justin while I was making YT video about the SEP you killed me while making YT video about the Grippen, what are the odds?

[@JustinPlaysTV]

CC Ception!

[@Marcel-ne1ew]

It is actually sad that our country South Africa has like 26 gripens and only 2 of them are operational if I'm not mistaken. Our military is an embarrassment. We have some of the best equipment compared to other African countries and most of it is in storage or not operational.

[@justified_wrath_21]

Common African W

[@itsmegianluca]

what game mode is this ? bc it doesnt look like air rb or air arcade

[@M.e.o.w.d.y]

Ir- fox 2 radar- fox 3

[@apossessedbagel]

I renamed myself in game to Gripen_Deez_Nutz because of how much I want this plane (also I know if I waited someone would take it before me).

[@tastysashimi]

what decal is that blond anime girl?

[@_crescentmoon_wt]

16:44 i know you dont play air but bruh, youre in a gripen

[@nick4819]

I absolutely hate the incoming missile sounds now. They sound like jet engines which is stupid af.

[@magicmudkip3938]

What's that decal next to yours Justin??

[@JustinPlaysTV]

Yes.

[@magicmudkip3938]

@@JustinPlaysTV the anime one

[@sigurdlauten4431]

will this app come to ios?

[@Panzershrek]

Sweden needed the cas more

[@sn0wi4everpc42]

Nice video just like your streams and i wanna ask do you wanna do a video with me xP?

[@GreysonRussell-tl7mn]

can u play m1a1 i heard it get downranks more often

[@tomasparal3912]

JAS39C gets HMD and JAS39A is slightly lihter

[@MrAcuta73]

"I dirt!" Completely stealing that. lol Only cuz I need to.....sadly Edit: nope, never use landing gear...ARB/GRB...straight disadvantage. Feels better tho?

[@sasukesthirdeye4378]

Ï honestly miss playing warthunder but the grind just was such a turn off for me

[@mantori762]

Why is it even in the British tree.. only Sweden ,south Africa,Hungary ,Brazil and czech use them..

[@JustinPlaysTV]

South Africa is part of the British TT..

[@MrEsphoenix]

Britain actually had a hand in the development of the C and above providing a lot of the NATO standard avionics and weapons systems as well as the weaponry. They're also an export partner. The fact that SA actually use the Gripen and is part of the tech tree works out nicely, as they really needed it.