The Murder that inspired the movie, Looking for Mr Goodbar

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[@arkansaninva]

Let that be a lesson: don't name your sons after John Wayne

[@saracowgill2144]

I think the lesson is not to laugh at or humiliate a man who isn’t performing sexually up to snuff in the moment. The appropriate response is, it happens to everyone, right? And would you like a glass of water and a snack and maybe we can try again in an hour or another night if you’re busy. Or you could ask if he’d like to play some trust games or kundalini exercises. Never laugh at a fellow’s manhood. You have absolutely no idea how identity tied he might be to his performance.

[@arkansaninva]

@@saracowgill2144 or maybe don't kill people for laughing at you? Or kill people at all?

[@kameronjones7139]

​@@saracowgill2144 or you could simply not kill someone.....

[@cordongrouch9323]

​@@saracowgill2144Women do not laugh at failed sexual performance. That is a straight up lie.

[@joggingscissors632]

​@@saracowgill2144 I appreciate your empathy and good suggestions, but was that really the lesson we should learn from this story? That's akin to saying that the moral of 'Romeo and Juliet' is: don't buy medicine from a pharmacist (or apothecary!)

[@freddie6307]

i'm starting to think naming your kid "john wayne" has bad juju lmao

[@LKMNOP]

I hope they arrested the friend for obstruction of justice. And accessory after the fact as he helped him get out of town

[@AnarexicSumo]

Why would they? Without his confession there would have been no conviction.

[@i_am_bisexual_or_something3132]

The man probably only gave John money to not anger him because you know John just killed someone

[@1TakoyakiStore]

This is like the 3rd murderer I've seen with the name John Wayne...

[@psychcjs]

It was the ‘he gave him money’ part that made me want to throw my phone. I’m speechless

[@genericamerican7574]

🙌

[@ShellyCline]

Not the "murder" part?

[@psychcjs]

@@ShellyClineit’s a true crime channel, part of the deal. The enablers who help after the fact, like inept PDs, friends, and family, really blow my mind.

[@gardnerhill9073]

This is why men are not to be trusted - ever. I'd bet $100 that friend would swear on a stack of Bibles that he was a Good Guy who'd NEVER rape and kill a woman... but he had zero problem helping someone who had.

[@alyonaf1054]

Thing is, she most probably never laughed at him or anything like that. He just made up an excuse to provoke sympathy.

[@Iflie]

"I killed a woman for laughing at me" Oh here's some money to get away with it...ehm what?

[@npcharte]

A murderer who just killed someone for laughing at him asks you for money, what are you gonna do? “Nah fam, I know you kill people who don’t behave exactly how you want, but imma keep my money and call the cops on you.” 😂

[@pattyliedel6485]

Yeah! What?

[@SilverAlaunt]

Ah, another “John Wayne” combination.

[@jkyle1018]

The Limp Bizkit Killer.

[@cecelastname6362]

😂

[@rodolfoerdogan4983]

This is the case that the book and movie "Looking for Mr Goodbar" was based on

[@joshuarose5168]

January first is a national holiday in the US. Also, it is in the middle of the winter holiday break from school. I am confused as to how anyone would be suspicious of her not showing up to work on a day she wouldn’t have worked.

[@fcukugimmeausername]

John Wayne 🤠 John Wayne Gacy 🤡 John Wayne Wilson. 🔪

[@ASHl33164]

John Wayne Glover 👵 🔨🧤 Simon has a video about him as well: “The Mosman Granny Killer”

[@joggingscissors632]

I predict that in 10-15 years, there will be a sudden spate of killers named something like Clint Eastwood Johnson, Clint Eastwood McDermott, etc. Video- Middle-Aged Simon: "Clint, my dude! You're such small brain! The 14th rule is that you NEVER create a VR avatar that looks EXACTLY like your murder victim!"

[@Abby_Liu]

he's already middle aged. he will be a withering old man.

[@currykingwurst6393]

​@@Abby_Liu How old do you think Simon is?

[@deancauley5745]

​@@currykingwurst6393 I'd say somewhere between 34-42?

[@currykingwurst6393]

@@deancauley5745 Almost. He's 35. So way off being middle-aged.

[@susanryan3479]

That was a harsh movie. GOD rest her soul🙏🏻

[@Taluta394]

The movie was really hard to get over.. I think the killer was originally from shelbyville indiana. I read about it after the movie… really frightening

[@vonniedemers5683]

That book is very good, better than the movie.... I read it way back in the 70s.

[@rosie141]

So did I!, as a young teen. It was enthralling! I’ll have to check out the movie now.

[@CityKanin]

I have to like solely for the correct use of "than" 😅 Thank you sir/madam!

[@vonniedemers5683]

@@CityKanin I graduated in 83.. So I've been out of school 40 yrs now, so I'm bound to fuck up at times. Lol

[@alicosme8]

She had to show up to work on January 1st?!!

[@carolinemitchell5825]

Seems unlikely, doesn't it?

[@ramblinrose8]

I've worked many a NY's day...I've worked a lot of Christmases and Christmas Eve's as well as New Years Eves too...as a matter of fact I usually don't have holidays off. It's when I make the most money...so no, it's not that big of a deal. Signed missed every NYE for the last 10 years (one of my jobs I work concerts, what band doesn't have a NYE show?!! and as for Christmas? caterers always have clients who want dinner cooked and served - you know that person you don't notice as you reach for that canape, yeah, that's me on Christmas Eve)

[@alicosme8]

@@ramblinrose8 The subject in the video was a teacher though.

[@lornaginetteharrison7168]

Just wondering what the headline 'She Heard Pleas of the Deaf' was all about, on the same page of that newspaper.🤔

[@gardnerhill9073]

Probably students and family and friends talking about the murdered woman.

[@lisa_of_the_valleys]

The movie "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" is based on this I think. It stars Diane Keaton.

[@wyzolma99]

Authorities in prisons need to keep closer watch on those types of prisoners. Death is too easy an out.

[@ramblinrose8]

It's so wrong of me to say this...but his death has relieved the system of having to adjudicate him. The taxpayers don't have to pay for his court cases and we don't have to pay for his life if he was jailed for life and we don't have to pay for his death if he was supposed to be executed. It has also relieved the public of a release date. Her parents no longer have to worry he will get out and kill someone else and his loss has probably saved someone's life though we can never know. Being a killer - I can't imagine that many friends are feeling sad at his loss...it's not right for me to judge him. It's completely wrong and yet I am glad he is gone. Let's forget about John Wayne Wilson and remember Roseann Quinn.

[@nievaconsing3344]

RIP 💐 🙏 Roseann Quinn ❤ 🕊 🇵🇭

[@andreacraik9757]

John Wayne was supposed to be on suicide watch in the tombs, after being transferred from the mental hospital. He was put in a regular cell in Rikers, because the suicide watch cells were full. He got into a verbal confrontation with a guard, and the guard threw sheets at John, telling him to go ahead and hang himself. He did! The guard was cleared of all wrongdoing, claiming he didn’t really believe that John was suicidal.

[@orangewarm1]

That beard has become epic.

[@andiemorgan961]

The book/movie 'Looking for Mr Goodbar' was based on this case. Madonna's song 'Bad Girl', with video directed by David Fincher, was based on the movie.

[@KarenHawkins-hk1wr]

In the reality we live in you're right,that's sometimes a man's self worth but don't kill people for laughing at you is right also.

[@robanybody4064]

Is this what the bookWaiting For Mr Goodbar based on?

[@rosie141]

Yes but I believe it was “Looking for Mr. Goodbar.”

[@robanybody4064]

@@rosie141 Oh right!! Thnx

[@ronniebishop2496]

The title comes from the author who describes a bar with one wall shellacked with candy bar wrappers. It has nothing to do with Quinn looking for a good bar or good man, but could be a composite of all of them.

[@DeputyFish]

as an Illinoian, i love that every crime is based on us

[@emilywalker3352]

Please do a full CC episode on this case.

[@Ginjer_Supreme]

yts a wonder Depp hasn't played this character

[@jonathandemy-geroe4991]

"Hey honey, I thought of a name for bump. How do you feel about 'John Wayne'?"

[@SuzeQKnits4997]

The first time I saw this movie I was sixteen and it literally scared the hell outta me. I swear the ending traumatized me for years and it still scares the hell outta me. I've never had a one night stand in my life, let alone sex with a stranger. I dont know how people can do it, but to each his own, just be careful cause its still a jungle out there....😳

[@venom7774]

Is this the case the movie. LOOKING FOR MR GOODBAR was based on. Diane Keaton Richard gere n Tuesday weld I think

[@andreacraik9757]

John Wayne confessed to Guest, the next day… that he had killed Roseanne. Guest didn’t believe him… he thought that John was just trying to get money from him!

[@akteach9391]

Teachers don't work on New Years Day.

[@arrowtt3364]

John Wayne? Not a great combo of names.

[@harrymarsee2782]

Good! Saves the courts' time and the taxoayers' money.

[@albertgilmore5701]

Im a big fan an would love to see more 20 min clips

[@kit2130]

Didn’t know it was based on a true story. That was a movie I wish I hadn’t have seen. Hope I can get the last image out of my mind someday.

[@ella_cinder4361]

Last I checked, January 1 is during Christmas holidays for all schools continent wide (🇨🇦🇺🇸). Even in the 70s. Now I'm questioning your research/info

[@melaniegrech5110]

I think this was made into a movie if im correct RICHARD GERE was in it LOOKING FOR MR GOODBAR

[@ronniebishop2496]

Yes and it’s crazy

[@chrismorgan7494]

They found him in Indianapolis Indiana.

[@barbaravick8734]

Sounds like the plot from the Diane Keeton movie, with Richard Gere as the killer.

[@goodowner5000]

Tom Berenger..although Gere wasn't very nice either.

[@anwesha9794]

Fragile male ego

[@Sweetyhide]

I have this movie on my Want To See list forever. Is it banned or something? It doesn't stream anywhere.

[@MrBryan247]

Good book and movie. She walked with a limp.

[@TheJephiner]

I have a buddy named after John Wayne. Also, that's Johnny Depp. You can't fool me!

[@slaytanicsabbath]

They interviewed her students, but none of them had heard anything.

[@crazestyle83]

Talk about self conscious

[@ronniebishop2496]

It was Indiana not Illinois.

[@animelytical8354]

John Wayne is clearly a cursed name. Not literally. Just in the Internet sense. But the Guest guy giving Wilson money is...strange. But dang. I'd feel sorry for Wilson if he just ran away crying. Killing someone for laughing at you is pretty sad. I'd rather come up with another reason.

[@leviathan8215]

Oh men and their fragile egos

[@meeeka]

I wish someone would review Bernie Goetz and his shenanigans in the NYC trains.

[@ariellealexander1534]

I want to watch this episode if casual criminalist if it exists. I can't find a link.

[@panzerlehr2730]

Looking for mr. Goodbar?

[@ADAMSIXTIES]

OMG, it's Conan! ;-p

[@badbiker666]

The school was worried when the teacher failed to show up for class on January 1st? That school held classes on New Years Day? Did anyone ever go to school on New Years Day?

[@robertbarncord6341]

See, Viagra can save lives...

[@catasrophieGrrl]

damn, another John Wayne?!

[@NJards-zt4fp]

What teacher has to show up for work on the 1st of Jan??

[@beligerentlondoner]

Thought the same and that it might have been an error but the date on the paper checks out.

[@erraticonteuse]

​@@beligerentlondoner Did it mention if the students had school that day? Sometimes teachers have to come in the day before students come back for meetings and admin stuff.

[@doop6769]

​@@erraticonteuse that's true, but it's still a national holiday, so she wouldn't have to go in regardless.

[@kevinfelton689]

Why were they expecting her to show up for work on a holiday?

[@honodle7219]

Hey, i can understand you better now!

[@cordongrouch9323]

Fake excuse: Women do not laugh at failed sexual performance. That is one thing they don't do.

[@PtolemyJones]

she was supposed to show up for work on New Years Day?

[@saggypaw]

Is this breaking news?

[@hanselmansell7555]

Oh know.. notifications tricking me on to another short.. zero tangents 😢

[@Dickbooster]

I'm noticing a trend here with these names...

[@metime4325]

People go to work on new years day?

[@antoinettegray355]

Do only serial killers have middle names?😊

[@ShellyCline]

I think quite often they used to include their middle names because it helps to distinguish them from everyday people who shared the same name. That way some poor schmuck walking around with the name John Wilson didn't have to get teased every time he told someone his name.

[@GrievousReborn]

She shouldn't have laughed at him for not performing sexually but he shouldn't have overreacted and murdered her.

[@alexwyatt2911]

You’re going to believe the word of a murderer?

[@doop6769]

​@@alexwyatt2911 why would he say that if it wasn't true? It only makes him look worse. Him denying that's why he did it seems far more likely.

[@melindoranightsilver9298]

Keep in mind, she had some wine at the bar and before she attempted to sleep with him, they both allegedly had some weed. If this is true (the drinking thing is), she may not have been thinking clearly. There are a few more theories of why however.

[@alexwyatt2911]

@@doop6769 How would he look _worse_ if he didn’t kill her for alleging laughing at him? Someone laughing-for *any* reason-at you isn’t a legal or moral reason to kill them. And it’s weird that he supposedly couldn’t get it up considering he raped her as well as killed her. So…could he not get hard until he was stabbing her to death? Or was he lying about her laughing at him? You seem so dialed in to his thought process; I thought you could answer that question for us.

[@alexwyatt2911]

@@melindoranightsilver9298 Wtf is up with y’all? First, you’re criticizing the victim for doing something that the murderer _claims_ she did. Second, even if she laughed at him, so what? That doesn’t justify anything he did, which includes raping her, beating her, stabbing her, and strangling her. If she laughed at him-which is extremely doubtful-the only justified response is him leaving the apartment without committing a single act of violence.

[@jacktaylor148]

So people became aware of her disappearance when they… didn’t hear from her?

[@FranklinWilson-ev9dq]

All Because, He Couldn't Get It,Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEEMS LIKE OVERKILL, TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Mrgolden1174]

Maybe he was gay.

[@Amberwood243]

I can’t stand these “shorts.”

[@Sweetyhide]

Best not to watch them

[@amongoose9325]

You can always scroll, and let KZbin "echo chamber" Do the work.

[@peterkavanagh64]

The crime mught fit a picture if truth h3 mught ve hingry the criminal axcused n3ed to fit the truth he sees a picture january degubes a hungry 22 years and dise he mistake in smell and cokur and thjnks the reqcher is sinetgjnf else . Hmm harsh

[@John-zt8fd]

See how ur ego and emotions control you? He killed her, coz she laughed at him coz he couldn't get it up? Think big picture people! Don't let emotions run a train on your ass

[@jameswalker4225]

An accent from “out west”? WTF. Maybe if yer world ends west of Hoboken, normal English might sound odd, but christ that’s pathetic. Of course it wasn’t that he couldn’t lick a roll of stamps to save her life, she was probably utterly unimpressed with his finger skills…

[@peanucklevantura1664]

Bet she ain’t laughing now eh 😂

[@jessicaivy487]

This is a fascinating true story!