The Mutt Lange Backwards Secret

The backwards trick that can escape you if you aren't paying attention. It's the little things that add up to make it HUGE! Doc.
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[@BobbyHuff]

Hey All…working on a video of a super cool and very elusive Mutt trick that will blow your mind…will be out in the next 2-4 weeks!! Thanks for watching and stay tuned! Doc

[@pulamea5564]

Hey Bobby, what are some Mutt Lange drum methods we can use with 808-based country music drum programming, similar to the 808-fueled chorus in Walker Hayes' "Fancy Like"? Some modern country is going in that direction, very interesting. Your comment is greatly appreciated, keep up the awesome work

[@BobbyHuff]

@@pulamea5564 hey Pula. Not a lot of Mutt drum instincts in this song and the whole 808 thing. There could possibly be some 808 stuff on Shanias “Up,” album but I’m not sure. The FGL type country direction is very Mutt-ish with big drums and claps. The Walker Hayes 808 type thing sound like some snappy compression, a good bit of top end, and some saturation with something like Decapitator by Sound Toys. The “Hick Hop,” thing has certainly infiltrated Nashville so study the good programming and tricks in Rap and RNB and you should be in good shape.

[@pulamea5564]

Thanks man, appreciate the response! Keep up the awesome videos!

[@HollywoodRecordingStudio]

Nice! The reverb tail part was critical. I tried adding backwards drums a few times before but never realized that adding reverb before bouncing was the secret sauce! Once again - thanks for posting this.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for watching Meghan!

[@user-ux1vj9vx7s]

Well, Yeah.. it would just be a reversed snare with reverb, and you’d need the long decay of the reverb to lead into the transient. It wouldn’t really make much sense otherwise

[@chrisbrowning6102]

I'm not "in the business" or even a hobbyist -- just a music appreciator -- and I really enjoy "seeing how the sausage is made". Great stuff. Thanks, Dr. Bob!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank You Chris!!

[@DavidDiMuzio]

Pour Some Sugar is always my go to reference song with new speakers/headphones. Probably my favorite drums ever “produced”.

[@BobbyHuff]

Totally agree man!!

[@BobbyHuff]

@unnamed because these drums were not played. He is saying that between the programming and architecture of the samples, and fx, these drums are his favorite drum production.

[@danielgabriel6112]

I am doing a recording project on Mutt Lange for my music and sound degree. I have to create 15 minutes worth of music in the style of a chosen producer, so obviously chose the Mutt! I can't tell you how useful your videos are!! Thank you, the Good Doctor has saved another life!

[@liquidsolids9415]

This sounds great with low piano notes too, like in “Roundabout” by Yes. Cool video. Thanks, Doc!

[@BobbyHuff]

Ageeed! Thanks for watching!

[@stingylizard]

Piping in a year late,really enjoyed this. Mutt has mad skills. If you carefully listen to AC/DC's Back In Black,he works real magic creating "sound clouds" for the drum cymbals/high end. No harshness. It all just floats in its own space,the mono imaging inside a great stereo mix. Damn amazing,close to impossible to re-create.

[@Sr.LaGGarto]

That Hysteria album was the Ph. D. degree in production for Mutt Lange, full of secrets for every instrument

[@BobbyHuff]

So agree!!!!!!

[@headwerkn]

The amount of craft and detail that went into Hysteria is off the show. Just imagine if Mutt ever decided to make a Masterclass series going through his best known tracks. Every engineer and producer on the planet would pony up the $ willingly.

[@marksilvino2083]

Appreciate you dropping these detailed production tips . Love the Lang-style, and I dig your channel. Keep on Rocking in the Free World!

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

I suspect that the snare reverse trick is how Dieter Dierks got that “sucking in” snare during the final verse of Rock You Like A Hurricane

[@BobbyHuff]

Yes Chris!!

[@SM-dh1zu]

bobby, keep doing what you are doing. you are the man!

[@normanperkel139]

Thanks for this Bobby!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Norman!

[@Crusaderrocks]

I watch your videos and immediately want to get creative, always inspiring Dr Bob!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank u Kyle!!

[@bengarland]

Stuff like this gives me 1000% more respect for the folks who did this back in the day by hacking their tape with a knife, figuring out how to use their equipment in inventive non-standard ways, and trying things over and over again until they discovered something new. We have it so easy now.

[@amonchhetri1053]

nice one again...great knowlledge no nonsense..thanks again..

[@bpazmuzic5021]

Being a huge Def Leppard fan I really appreciate all the insight into the Mutt Lange tricks...my mixes are sounding better all the time. Thank you!

[@BobbyHuff]

That’s great man about ur mixes!!! Thanks for watching and for the kindness! A Mutt trick coming up that will blow ur mind!

[@JaviBello]

I love that trick! I used to do it a lot time ago. Maybe time to bring it back? Thanks Bobby!!! You rock

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Javi!

[@saber2jumper]

Thanks Bobby!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for watching!

[@BrianFunkMusic]

This is the very first thing we hear on Heartbeat City, except with vocals! I think that is actually Mutt saying "Hello" as well lol. Awesome tip, sounds really cool on the kick.

[@BobbyHuff]

Yes Brian!! I love that! You’re such a Cars fan! Hahaha

[@collinjamesguitar]

One of my absolute desert island albums. Mutt is my hero and that record is pop perfection

[@bryancolevox]

Love it! Thanks for posting! Would love to see you do this with a lead voc or BGV stacks! I still can’t get that happening too well

[@BobbyHuff]

Good idea !

[@ryKirwan1]

Thanks Bobby. I’ve actually been wondering the exact process of how they do this. Thanks for the info. ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for watching Ryan!

[@saltyapostle44]

Cool trick - and love the scrub shorts in the beginning as well. Never seen that in the O.R.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Salt!

[@powerpopaholic876]

You're a Saint. Thanks !

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha!! Well not quite but thanks anyway!! Haha

[@gregoryharper886]

“Sounds expensive” 😂 great content!! Keep them coming! ❤️

[@justinprizant1980]

Thank You Bobby MD >>>>>

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Justin!

[@SJR_Media_Group]

Amazing tricks that define the Def Leppard 'Sound'. Just subscribed.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Steven!

[@SJR_Media_Group]

@@BobbyHuff Back at you

[@swettyspaghtti]

I love using it on cymbals and making the tail before the beginning of the song. Sounds really cool on vocals too.

[@BobbyHuff]

Agreed Swetty!

[@DAVIDJCARON]

Nice trick Bobby.. thanks..

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank u David

[@chrisfarquhar9032]

Sounds like "The March of the Dreaded Zultrons" was foreshadowing some of this effect!

[@steveanimatrix3887]

works awesome for vocals too, which Lange also does quite a bit of

[@BobbyHuff]

Yes he does!

[@AzaleaMusic]

Impressively easy to do with Cubase, and clearly explained. Thanks! 👍

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Azalea!

[@regardinghenry2145]

When you present a trick it´s always kinda beefier, more pro than others. Thanks again for your tips and tricks!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks so much Henry! I appreciate that!

[@ianharris8706]

Nice Dr.!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thank u Ian!

[@ianharris8706]

@@BobbyHuff tips and tricks are always appreciated!

[@billribas]

Too much fun, thanks doc!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Bill!

[@nos4me]

This trick sounds awesome with a cymbal as well

[@BobbyHuff]

Agreed!

[@meteorheartofficial]

Gold.

[@Dgarig665]

Damn. Nice. Thank you.

[@DeanWThomas]

Awesome surgery as always!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Dean!

[@tyjuarez]

one can also bounce and reverse just the wet reverb channel, if the reverb is running in parallel. That way, the forward snare's transient is snappier

[@BobbyHuff]

True!

[@Joshhotchilipepper]

I do this for vocals, but first you start with the start of a word or phrase, reverse it, add reverb, render it, reverse it and done!

[@SilvermainMusic]

"Sounds fancy. Sounds expensive." LOL

[@BobbyHuff]

HAHAHA

[@atlantaguitar9689]

Great channel... gotta say though that your opening back screen makes me think you are in a Neil Breen movie! ha ha

[@BobbyHuff]

Haha!! Thanks for watching!

[@joshs.6608]

Sounds very cool, didn't know that even the Beatles use this trick, don't know which song though.

[@joeyanson8620]

He also did that on the end of Billy’s Got A Gun, the final song on Def Leppard’s Pyromania. Awesome tip! Thanks!

[@BobbyHuff]

Very cool!

[@PickettMusic]

Never tried this with a kick. Genius!

[@BobbyHuff]

Do it!!

[@OliverAmberg]

I often use deep, single piano notes in reverse to spice up the mix. That was like travelling back in time. Nice!!

[@lachijames6213]

Its a great ramping effect. You hear it alot in thriller film scores. Also the intro to "Rio"!

[@BobbyHuff]

Great Oliver!

[@scottnorlyn6479]

Learn something every day

[@BobbyHuff]

Me too Scott!

[@glenesis]

We call it "Preverb". Pleased to meet ya! I'm Glenn. Subbed ya. Have a great day!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks for the sub Glenesis!

[@VivaToddVegas]

Ah, the old manual reverse reverb trick. I was using a similar trick to make some "ghostly" voices in a podcast the other day.

[@DarkSideofSynth]

Reversed snare, gated reverb and massive compression. Oh yeah, '80s drums weren't just fat, they were OBESE! ;) And i love them.

[@ronnierogers]

I've added some reverb to the reverse reverb sometimes for another great effect. Sounds huge.

[@BobbyHuff]

Great idea Ronnie!

[@8MinuteAxe]

That trick gave Rick Allen a second career. Very interesting video! Thanks doc.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Mark!!

[@birdcagestudios5584]

hell yea!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks!

[@sissiroxie]

Putting the reverse snare after the first snare can make a cool woosh sound. Like the pryda snare

[@BobbyHuff]

Agreed

[@freez092also]

"Sounds fancy... sounds expensive" ❤

[@BobbyHuff]

Haha

[@lodewicus1]

I done this sine 1997 in Cubase vst Old trick

[@BobbyHuff]

Great! Still works!

[@JZLucas]

Love the Mutt tricks, thanks! *You're missing an "e" on the end of Lange in the title. Cheers.

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Zach I added the E!! Appreciate you watching!

[@JZLucas]

@@BobbyHuff you're welcome... If there's Mutt in the title, I'm watching!

[@whychromosomesmusic5766]

I make these electronic/chainsaw/motor sounds with my throat muscles while humming. Wonder how they might sound backwards. Thanks for giving me that idea.

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha! That sounds awesome!!

[@whychromosomesmusic5766]

@@BobbyHuff Thanks. Sometimes my throat gets crud in it and even singing is difficult then. So the other sounds are difficult. And it is not possible to always create "melodies" per se and sometimes it's more like an electronic drone sound as opposed to a melody. Like static. I think it could have applications in things like EDM or video game music. But for now it's just something weird that I can do! lol I do have some recorded if you want to hear it just let me know. If not that's okay too. Michael Brown of Amalgam Studios and I did use them in an instrumental composition recorded in his home studio in the Boro. I don't know what happened to the MP3. I lost it! lol He played flute and it sounded pretty cool like some kind of movie soundtrack.

[@AndyDion]

Def Leppard baby!

[@BobbyHuff]

Yea Andy!

[@officialWWM]

I do this with cymbals all the time.

[@BobbyHuff]

Agreed! Me too.

[@davidmaraisthecampfireguit2596]

Fucking brilliant!

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks David!

[@user-ux1vj9vx7s]

I knew engineers had delusions of grandeur.. But, Fuck. Really good shit, though, Doc.

[@mYgrionu]

Russ Ballard / King kobra - Dream On ;)

[@BobbyHuff]

Yes!!

[@pdxfun4888]

So is the reverb printed on the original track?

[@BobbyHuff]

There is reverb on the on the drums but it’s not printed..

[@harnesshouse]

How do you do it live?

[@BobbyHuff]

Tracks. Haha

[@krishenanthony]

this trick is used on the loop at the end of the pyromania album

[@BobbyHuff]

Agreed Krishen!

[@StupidEarthlings]

I knew I was hearing satans drumming when i played this backwards..

[@amberwoodstudio]

Sounds so 80’s ha ha

[@BobbyHuff]

Yes!!

[@themayor6836]

Hey Bobby is there anyway I can get in touch with you. I want you to producer a song for me but I don't know how to get in touch with you.

[@BobbyHuff]

Yes! [e-mail]

[@themayor6836]

@@BobbyHuff Thx will be in touch soon!

[@retro-dademusic6403]

Gnal Ttum

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahaha

[@WizardOfArc]

I use this trick to lead into choruses….

[@BobbyHuff]

Great!

[@michaeltablet8577]

uoY knahT !tnellecxE!

[@BobbyHuff]

Haha! Thanks for watching!

[@michaeltablet8577]

@@BobbyHuff thanks for making great videos and for the humor!

[@mistermusic140]

Questions of the day....What is Bob spelled backwards? How would it sound if you did that trick saying the word Bob?

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahahaha!!!!!

[@davelordy]

Bouncing to mp3 ? Yikes !

[@harnesshouse]

This reminds me too much of the snare sound on Billy Squier's "Stroke", which I hold accountable for every awful snare sound of the '80s

[@BobbyHuff]

Really? I love 80s snares and they’re back in pop music big time!

[@tyjuarez]

Become one with the reverb, Glen. It is inescapable.

[@switchmuso]

Actually I disagree with you!! Shock! Horror! This way works fine for a single hit, but if you want to do this with, say, a vocal line or bar or two of something, reverse the audio FIRST, then record the reverb with no dry signal, and then reverse the reverb and move it forward into place.. otherwise the order of swells will be backwards, see what I mean?

[@lewisticknor]

Sir, I love you bro, but at 32 seconds is the graphic of a machine that does not need to be turned over? Is it in fact an A827? Just being the meme police, nothing to see here, keep scrolling through the comments.

[@AimingWanderously]

Pour some reverse tricks on me.

[@BobbyHuff]

Hahahaha! More coming!

[@bp9884]

Mutt used this trick on the intro to "Photograph" with the first few snare hits then drops it for the rest of the song. Great way to literally pull you into the song - kzbin.info/www/bejne/emXHeaVumtunbM0

[@BobbyHuff]

Agreed Hank!

[@dreib9660]

When is Sumner getting canned? Im sick of how he keeps tricking you .....its mean.

[@BobbyHuff]

Sumner is a huge pain in the --. I can’t believe I haven’t fired him!!

[@vaughanband]

!!!gnizamA

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks Sam!

[@elzambra3510]

!taerG

[@BobbyHuff]

Thanks man!

[@elzambra3510]

@@BobbyHuff You´re a great person. Thanx for all your videos

[@BobbyHuff]

@@elzambra3510 awwww thanks so much!!🙏

[@TraxtasyMedia]

why so complicated? Every Daw has a function, that let's ya reverse each sample with all effects on it.

[@BobbyHuff]

It’s not complicated… just showing the best way to achieve this affect….

[@TheVinceb100]

1st?