The Mysteries Of Islam's Most Sacred Site | Absolute History

[@AbsoluteHistory]

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[@morneterblanche2228]

Thank you so much , May God bless you and all around you If the mosques faced Petra , the main city of Edom. It would make sense . Esau (Edom) married the daughter of Ishmael. The tabernacles of Edom . Ishmael was given a Egyptian to wife by Hagar his mother . Hagar was the Egyptian handsmaid of Saria called Sarah after she gave Hagar to Abram to wife . Now read Psalms 83.

[@MA-ct9ms]

Time to convert :)

[@morneterblanche2228]

@@MA-ct9ms convert to what

[@mozingerinc]

Seriously 😑

[@mohdfahmi8841]

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[@maculka999]

Every time I hear about books being destroyed in the past, it breaks my heart. So much knowledge gone forever.

[@jeanalice4732]

Yes it really shows who the really ignorant are.. pathetic cancel culture mentality. Ironically RCC Muslim Nazi CCP.. what do they have in common.

[@sunnydelight8383]

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[@marcedmonson]

There’s a reason

[@bawsack69]

You should look into what books the national socialists burned. There was no knowledge in them, only filth

[@humanbeing7624]

I also wonder what knowledge was lost, especially in the destruction of the library of alexandria by the christans

[@abhijeetkjaiswal]

Whether you are a Muslim or not, I think this scholarly research should be fascinating to anyone interested in history.

[@masimi3324]

The facts.

[@georgepapsukkal4392]

I wonder want Dan Gibson AGENDER is??? He should also do some research on those CAUCASIAN Jewish people Wailing Wall, that they pray to.

[@Moongod2500]

Agreed . I’m not religious. But I love learning cultures , races , religions and all around history of humanity .

[@62halee]

History is HIS STORY. And this is exactly what this man's hypothesis is. HIS STORY.

[@kayjay2588]

Raised Christian, I must learn the truth of the Jewish and Muslim, Islam faiths. Petra is beautiful and must be protected. I understand if faith groups would take the interest off true points, they were protecting their sacred places.

[@evelynguillen6634]

I absolutely love history. I'm a Christian. In order to understand the present you have to understand the past. Something that kids are sadly not taught.

[@QNEGRO1]

True. Something that world leaders in power aren't reminded of😂

[@Antiwar80]

You love something what your god hate , really interesting

[@isaczelda3066]

there is nothing to hide dear the the tombe of muhamed still existed until now he was buried on the place where its dead on his house on el medina with his wife aicha and abu bakr and omar ibn khatab

[@nithinchoudhari]

@@isaczelda3066 the first 15 minutes of video are the initial question you should answer or you dummy god must appear somewhere and tell. why there are no ancient ruins, city found while digging for construction in mecca. why there has no record of a big city called mecca with trees, water and details which are mentioned in holy text of quran only. the world historians are questioning quran, the prophet, the city. THE BOOK, THE MAN, THE PLACE.

[@jestep9]

@@isaczelda3066 Weird? Seems like I’ve heard that Quran says he went to Jerusalem, and ascended to heaven from there.

[@fingerboxes]

As someone who has ghost-written several books about the early history of Islam, this is actually a very well researched and thoughtful documentary. All too often you see widely popular theories about Islam by people who don't know even the most basic facts about Islam, Islamic history, Mohammad, or the Arabic language and those are extremely frustrating. Dan Gibson does actually know what he's talking about. Whether you agree or disagree with his conclusions about Islam it's obvious to me--as someone who has studied and written extensively on the topic--that he does know the subject matter and cares about it.

[@burningphoneix]

Dan Gibson literally knows nothing about Islam. Premier grifter.

[@baberoot1998]

​@burningphoneix Hate the Truth much? Lol...

[@iq-ride9329]

🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂You wrote books about Islam? You know Arabic? 🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂 If know Arabic you would have known that the translation is flawed, the "facts" are imaginary and he is not a historian. He's nothing but a fraud!.

[@fumezotp]

Ll 33:11 33:11 33:11

[@archiethejanitor6779]

Dan Gibson knows more about islam than most muslims

[@zappababe8577]

Even as a non-Muslim, a Christian, I am appalled by the burning of so many books. It seems to me to be a terrible act of vandalism and a complete destruction of many, many historical texts. How our modern historians would have loved to have pored over so many pieces of historical writings! To say it took many months to burn all those books shows that an absolutely enormous amount of irreplaceable historical texts, of immense importance, were burned - for fuel! All the work of the scribes, the many years it would have taken them to painstakingly write out those texts, which must have been precious to them - just gone up in smoke! This is truly very sad.

[@goldcic]

Check out the B Nag Hanmadi Library online especially The Gospel of Thomas Took many me many years to understand Jesus sayings LEFT OUT IN 325 AD.

[@joespartakos3586]

This books and papyrus and manuscripts in Egypt…man what a disaster…they say there was all the history and science of the old world.I really share a tear for that.

[@FrettiFrett]

the Vatican and the christians did exactly the same- burning and hiding ancient books to tell "their" story.

[@Xzerrez]

It also saddens me as well. There are so many mysteries throughout history that I wish to know about its origins.

[@Herc4ever]

Not sad, barbaric and incredibly ignorant.

[@nizaamkader3528]

This theory was proposed by Dan Gibson, a Canadian amateur archaeologist, who claimed that early mosques face the modern direction of Petra rather than the modern direction of Mecca⁴. He based his argument on his own measurements of mosque orientations and his interpretation of historical sources. However, his theory has been challenged and refuted by many scholars who have expertise in Islamic history, astronomy, geography, and architecture. Some of these scholars are: - David A. King, a professor of the history of science at Johann Wolfgang Goethe University in Frankfurt. He wrote a book called "The Petra Fallacy: Early Mosques do face the Sacred Kaaba in Mecca but Dan Gibson doesn't know how"¹², where he exposed the flaws and fallacies in Gibson's methodology and conclusions. He showed that Gibson ignored the historical and astronomical evidence that Muslims used different methods to determine the qibla (the sacred direction toward the Kaaba in Mecca) in different times and places, and that Gibson compared historical mosque orientations with modern directions of Petra and Mecca, which are not the same due to the curvature of the earth and the precession of the equinoxes. He also provided a comprehensive bibliography of works on historical qibla determinations by Muslim and Western scholars. - Patricia Crone, a historian of early Islam who taught at Princeton University. She cast doubt on the claim that Mecca was a major historical trading outpost, which was one of the premises of Gibson's theory³. However, she did not deny the existence or importance of Mecca as the birthplace of Islam and the location of the Kaaba. She also later on disregarded some of her theories and acknowledged that there was evidence for Mecca's role in the pre-Islamic and early Islamic periods. - Glen Bowersock, a professor emeritus of ancient history at Princeton University. He disagreed with Crone and asserted that Mecca was indeed a significant trading center in the Arabian Peninsula, and that there was archaeological and epigraphic evidence for its involvement in the spice trade and the pilgrimage to the Kaaba³. He also criticized Gibson's theory as a "fantasy" and a "conspiracy theory" that lacked any historical or scientific basis. (1) Dan Gibson (author) - Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Gibson_%28author%29. (2) The Petra Fallacy: Early Mosques do face the Sacred Kaaba in Mecca .... muslimheritage.com/the-petra-fallacy/. (3) THE PETRA FALLACY 01.12 - Muslim Heritage. muslimheritage.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/petra-fallacy.pdf. (4) Kaaba - Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba.

[@rushdin]

Thank you!!

[@寿司食べたいな]

I wonder if you actually read the research itself, including King's refutation, which, cursorily, sounds like a very labored attempt to defend a strawman. Also, irispublishers.com/oajaa/pdf/OAJAA.MS.ID.000555.pdf

[@shant-o]

Bless you.

[@yaarjanni]

Thanks

[@Jake-iw3tl]

No it has not. In fact, it's been proven even more solidly because he has kept searching for ancient qiblas and compiling them for researchers 😂 It comes with gps too lolz It's free: Search Qibla Tool

[@chupoohniji]

Hands down one of of the most insightful research and documentary ever done and seen. Spectacular work sir 🙏🏼

[@mohamide]

Hand down you do not know anything about history or insightful research

[@robertlambert4514]

@@mohamide you sound bitter and offended by truth not lining up with your fantasies.

[@sunnydelight8383]

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[@sunnydelight8383]

@@mohamide kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5K0Z6ulbtyBgrM

[@girloveraja]

@@robertlambert4514 We are offended by the lack of evidence and inadequate research. This documentary is an act filled with lies. If you want the truth just read Quran. Although he tried to discredit any viable sources that exposed his lies.

[@jeffreyweaver9729]

An amazing documentary. I am so grateful that there are people who dedicate their lives to unraveling such unanswered mysteries. It makes me realize that all throughout history there are those forces that try to rewrite history to inforce their agenda as well as those forces that work to uncover the truth.

[@georgepapsukkal4392]

I can guarantee that Dan Gibson will NEVER ever do any research on the Wailing Wall or who is the original people of Jerusalem?

[@lindsayschilling8707]

​@georgepapsukkal4392 Really!?! A thoughtful deep dive into the importance of Mecca, or more than likely Petra, seems to offend you. I thought it was a brilliant documentary regarding Islamic History, pure and simple. Why do you have to give it a political twist? I thought it was a brilliant breakdown on Petra being the true Islamic Mecca. It has nothing to do with the current state of political upheaval. Please, appreciate Mr. Gibson's hard work for what it is - a brilliant, thoughtful, well-explained, mind provoking possibilty of the original holy Islamic city - nothing more, nothing less. Have you viewed or traveled to the City of Petra? It is magnificent. For myself, as an Anthropologist (I drop all political ideas/thoughts), and simply appreciate the history and culture of an ancient, and most beautiful, city.

[@georgepapsukkal4392]

@@lindsayschilling8707 Highly decorated leading historian David A. King called David Gibson finding gibberish, and wrote Gibson is INADEDUATE to grasp mathematic. I honestly believe you have deliberately missunderstood me, I said nothing about today politics, I couldn't careless about any MUMBO JUMBO religions. I must of hit a raw nerve when I mention the original inhabitants of Israel. If you want to the the truth, neither of them who are fighting each other today are the original inhabitant of the land of Israel and it also seemed to me you have no care about hurting Muslims feeling. Can you imagine the uproar if anybody did a documentary about Jewish people WAILING to the wrong wall, they would be CRUCIFIED and called holocaust denial and anti-Semite. The original Wall was destroyed by your ancestors the Romans in 70 AD, the inhabitants then fled into Africa, and were captured by the Africans and then sold to the Europeans and Arabs, this was the start of the transatlantic slave trade. Not the English or America can put the original people back in Israel, ONLY almighty God can. The Holy Bible Jeremiah 30:3

[@iq-ride9329]

The translation is flawed, the "facts" are imaginary and he is not a historian. He's nothing but a fraud!.

[@doreenb.8928]

@@georgepapsukkal4392That might have something to do with the fact that there have already been many people who have studied and researched that area. The history of that area is, in fact, possibly the most studied region in the world. There’s already supporting archaeology and has been for for many years. You obviously just have an ace to grind that has nothing to do with historical fact.

[@panzlithium]

There are few flaws for this theory. First thing is Cave of Hira location where Muhammad SAW first met Jibril. And second is how the hell did they miss Zam zam well? Also what is this black rock? Do you mean Hajr Aswad? If that is the black rock, we don't pray at it. Ka'abah is just a direction we have to pray towards. If these simple things you can miss, please don't call yourself some 'hIsToRiAn'

[@Royal_enfield333]

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[@matthew-jy5jp]

The Black Rock was said to have fallen from heaven and the patriarch of the Jews, Abraham placed it in the Kaaba. I don't believe what this man is saying is that Muslims pray to the Rock but they felt that rock was special. I'm not Muslim I am just interested in the world's religions and history. It seems to me that this man knows exactly what he's talking about and can place what he says in historical terms

[@sidelladan3792]

His not a historian he is a qualified idiot ...hate to insult but the level of incompetence is incredible ...and then they posit it to the internet ....us should be ashamed and this channel too 7mar

[@sidelladan3792]

@@matthew-jy5jp it seems to me you have no idea what you're talking about ...would you go to a Muslim to learn about Sikhs?????

[@sidelladan3792]

@@matthew-jy5jp BTW who told you Ibrahim is the patriarch of the Jews??? There were no Jews in his time ....

[@CortinaATX]

What a incredible research documentary. As a non-Muslim, I still found it very interesting. I agree with others, the burning of the books is extremely sad.

[@Antiwar80]

Extremely sad ? Why

[@PathOfAvraham]

Paris 1240. But okay.

[@ain8nia]

Wow as a Muslim this is an eye opener

[@fouadfayaz]

Acha g ancient mecca was yathrib

[@SingleHandedProductions]

What a GREAT video! Great research! I am convinced Petra it where is started. Thanks DAN +

[@ShajuAhmed-RecitationOfQuran]

Absolute History, Muslims submit themselves to Allah and not to the religion of Islam, rather Islam is the religion they follow.

[@SamyAndAprilDelgado]

Agree

[@yahhyah5074]

Well said

[@rajarsi6438]

All fake religionists and all other atheists are completely under the control of God. About actual religion sectarian fools of course don't understand anything.

[@ia1530]

@@rajarsi6438 “Fake religionists?” What on earth does that mean? Aren’t religions supposed to be entertaining fantasies we use when we want to speak to God or any of his lieutenants, Mohammad, Jesus, Buddha, and the rest of them? That’s what I was told by a former Buddhist who had converted to Islam before he had been converted into Hinduism and communism. He said that God might be a communist. Do you know if that is true? ,

[@rajarsi6438]

@@ia1530 God provides unlimited stupidity to those who have worldly desires. Until they're fully done with it.

[@ultimatekp]

This information is just amazing, with ultimate micro detailing and connected data. Luckily the religion and incidents were not too old to track down. Thank you Mr Dan and team for the wonderful work of the masterpiece. Well appreciated.

[@zaharmohammed8859]

Another very important place is Medina(Madinah/Yathrib). Should try to relate this to Petra. Prophet Mohammad travelled several times between Mecca n Medina. Surely there will be records in term of directions.

[@kevinwright5081]

None

[@EmadAhmadAlSaudi]

8 They want to extinguish God’s Light with their mouths; but God will complete His Light, even though the disbelievers dislike it.9 It is He who sent His Messenger with the guidance and the true religion, to make it prevail over all religions, even though the idolaters dislike it.As-Saf

[@habibm.sesaydr.7220]

The narrative about the history of the Ka'bah and Islam is fastinàting and educative. The research has not only developed a new perspective, it has questioned the very foundation of Islam.

[@Hasnain1F]

Not really. Historians are notoriously known for dogmatism and assumptions. See Clovis First and you'd understand. I'm going to keep watching and questioning but I'm highly skeptical of this because the narration chains in Islam are second to non. See Marijn van Putten, a person given two million euros grant regarding studying Qur'an and he came to the same conclusions about Islam as we're taught in mosques.

[@azizkabli]

The meaning of haram is sacred in Arabic language Not forbidden

[@bunjijumper5345]

The internet has shown Islam is false, as a former Muslim it was hard to see the truth, but it’s very important.

[@AR-ng4gr]

Guys i know they seem like they know what they’re saying but.. masjid doesn’t really mean gathering at all and in any sense.. masjid in arabic translates to the place of sojood.. sojood is prostration so masjid is just place of prostration which translated to mosque.. place of prayer..

[@htxhallitronix1569]

Jama3a is gathering, lol he tries to lie about islam but he makes huge errors

[@Yanzdorloph]

In north africa they don't call a mosqe "masjid", they call it "jame3" and jame3 means gathering, hence the confusion I guess.

[@intothewildexplore]

they are talking about ancient meaning of the word...no language has ever been the same since its introduction!

[@charlestorruella8591]

@@htxhallitronix1569 does not chance the evidence or the facts this man has found no trace of an ancient city under mecca means they are lying

[@Yanzdorloph]

@Ilyass ELK jame3 comes from majma3 literally "the gathering"

[@NoorAsmahMdTaib]

We learn at school, twice a year, Sun will align directly above the kaabah known as Istiwa' A'dzam. We can determine the exact direction of the Kaabah by placing a wooden stick vertically in the ground; the direction of the Qiblat will be the exact opposite to the stick’s shadow. It's easier for us facing Makkah Al-Mukarramah, Alhamdulillah.

[@DeezNutzHot]

😂😂😂😂

[@mikeryan4055]

It would align twice a year to any other spot ????? Wtf does that prove you crank

[@opheliasarnyeneh6566]

So, you didn't understand anything this historian is saying, and you're still trying to locate the so-called Kabba with a wooden stick? What's wrong with you?! Your final destination has just been proven to be non-existent! He's saying that, based on history, everything about Islam is a big LIE ( summary)

[@ElderFreeman413]

This is not my faith but I love history. Thank you for the knowledge

[@jboomhauer]

Surely it's more important that all Muslims are facing the same way, since they don't pray for the Kaba, they pray for God. The direction is to unite. Also, if it's the wrong place why are the other holy sites (like the well and the mountains) all in the vicinity?

[@FuzBrain]

J Boomhauer Wells and mountains aren’t very rare, but at this point I doubt anyone would change their religious habits

[@drpk6514]

This is a baseless BS show. The place had and had constant living population. It had never been destroyed or depopulated to be lost. Quite opposite as every year since the time of prophete people go there to do the special rituals. So how could they had lost their most important part of the world.

[@risymian3374]

His claim is very weak. He is just a self-published author afterall. You can read David A. King critique on Dan's claim. www.researchgate.net/publication/330221815_King_The_Petra_fallacy_The_Petra_fallacy_-_Early_mosques_do_face_the_Sacred_Kaaba_in_Mecca_but_Dan_Gibson_doesn't_know_how_Comparing_historical_orientations_with_modern_directions_can_lead_to_false_re

[@educationinnovation2454]

Ridwan ᮯᮂ I read the King’s ‘Petra Fallacy’ and found that he is actually using the text of Abbasid time which are not presenting complete picture. King appeared to be more emotional rather than factual. King ‘s article appeared baseless and is not presenting wholistic pictures including archaeology, timeline and depiction in Muslims and contemporary literature. By the way Dan Gibson has responded to King’s article, go and watch you will be more enlightened.

[@baboucarrjitehbojang881]

Even THE PROPHET MUHAMMED (PBHM) has once talked about that Black Rock to his followers saying--Do not concentrated so much on this Black Rock that you think is God, it is just a symbol,

[@manojmsharma19]

This is my first experience to know about the history of Mecca and Petra. We’ll explain. Appreciate your hard work on research on untold story.

[@randamardini5330]

Don’t be misled !

[@manojmsharma19]

@@randamardini5330 you mean the contents are not valid or far from truth.

[@thenewshour3126]

Indian idol worshipers are the people who left arab during the rise of islam,thatz d reason you hv great enemity with islam. Islam is a perfect formulla to live a disciplined life, not like other religions which tell you to creat pullution everywhere on every occasion, which do not hv any specific formula for life. Whatever Islam is atleast it gives a way to live.

[@moon-ud8tq]

TheNewsHour, the way of life is great but does the Qu'ran state that all infidels (non-Muslim) must be killed? I'm still puzzled on this.

[@patelarfat3563]

@@moon-ud8tq no

[@syahrunnizam4596]

The video suggest we all muslim to research, study and show more fact in form of evidence rather than just telling story that easily could be another lie or false statement make by the elders or powerfull person. This video should encourage we, the muslim to study more and tell them the story with fact and studies, not just a word, speeches or writing form that easily make the muslim argue to each other and confiusing. We should change our ways to tell the people about the truth in islam more effective ways with fact and proves that will bring a big impact that no one can argue. Surely this video is a theory, but just look how some of the muslim react on this video. How big the effort it take to makes muslim unite into one if there is certain arguement which is not base on fact that all muslim will accept. If there is a strong prove or evidence we show, there is no arguement needed. Read, study, examinate the fact and prove it in more effective ways are needed to prevent any doubt in many claims we makes. Its hard, but surely someone should do that and spread the truth or the claims we make with fact and proves. Thats it for now. Sorry if there is any mistake from this comment, and also for my bad english. Im just taking the good moral value from the video, not to argue to anyone about anythings. Maybe im not the only person that want a clear explaination about certain things. The ways of we, the muslim telling, preaching or teaching need to be change to the better ways that more effective according to the new generation of thinking that have different mentality. Tq for reading, be good person and have a nice days everyone.

[@_John_P]

The Quran says the Earth is flat, that's also why they tell you to face the Kaaba. You can only face the Kaaba if you can see it, from any other location in the world it's impossible to face the Kaaba because the Earth is round.

[@mohamedadam9936]

@@_John_P where in the Quran does it says that the earth is flat?

[@_John_P]

@@mohamedadam9936 In many places like 71:19, 15:19...

[@SAMZest]

@@_John_P which Ayah says Earth is flat?

[@_John_P]

@@SAMZest In a few places, such as 71:19 and 15:19

[@Random_user_8472]

A timeless documentary, amazing work.

[@alameenengineerspvt.ltd.7944]

The zamzam water is in mecca rightnow. Can't move that zam zam well to another location.

[@MDSOHELRANA-gi3yk]

This is the Point Lets Mr. Researcher take this ZAMZAM replica to Petra,,,, Since Long Ago without your Google and Pure Directional Tools can be differ the degree of the direction of the destination place . Even though ask this Man to Show the any skeleton DNA from the Petra once Abdullah Ibne Jubayer defeated at least some causality is there , Advice him to Show the existing grave yard where the Khadijatul Kubra , cause she was passed away before Hijrat. Advice him to dig and find out the Mujdalifa which is still diggable Where King Abra was defeated by Ababil. He can proved it.

[@tabassumsultana4279]

😂😂😂 that was a good one 👍👍

[@fw6346]

Does zam2 well is still exist and can supply infinite water? My friend said that the zam2 water that is sold in plastic containers are water mixed with a little bit of zam2 water and they sell it with high price...is it true?

[@pincheguey1325]

The original Zamzam well was in Jerusalem, then another one in Petra. So, easy to make another fake well.

[@davidlevi7537]

No pal, u are ignorant. It is in paran desert, in Sinai peninsula. 😂 Don't twist history and geography.

[@MoetVidz]

Be steadfast, Be steadfast {Muhammad}, Like those messenger of firm resolve. On the Day they see what they had been warned about, it will seem to them that they lingered no more than a single hour of a single day (in this life). This Is a Warning. Shall any be destroyed except the defiant? Qs. Al-Ahqaf 35. (46:35).

[@MoetVidz]

Has The Story of Moses Reach You? Qs. 20:9

[@powervibes]

so man wrote that, not god.... God doesn't write and nor did Muhammad - it's all BS

[@AZadeh-nd8vx]

I don't imagine this video is popular with the Meccan tourist industry!

[@dionnedonelson413]

LUCKILY WE MUSLIMS AREN'T TOURIST

[@AZadeh-nd8vx]

@@dionnedonelson413 lol no but trust me, there's a HUGE tourism industry for "packages" to Mecca worth billions. They arrange your flight, transport and accommodation for you, so it's effectively the same thing from.their perspective.

[@cillverbullet]

@@dionnedonelson413 not tourists but.....

[@DerHammerSpricht]

@@dionnedonelson413 LMAO yes you are. I've seen Muslim tourists in Europe and in Indonesia. The Indonesians say they always recognize a Muslim tourist by his conspicuous displays of flashy wealth, tipping Indonesian service staff very highly in a way where everyone around can see his money, and then being racist toward the local Indonesian staff. If you Muslims want to set yourselves apart as the True Religion to Help Humanity, please don't go down the Judaic/Christian path of insisting Muslims are all pure, simple people who are "persecuted" by the Big Bad World for daring to be Righteous. You're adding NOTHING new to the equation I would love for Islam to keep growing and I would support you to kick Christianity off its stolen throne, but if you guys are just gonna pull that same old "no one has suffered for their Righteousness as much as we have" crap that Christians and Jews have pulled on us already, count me out.

[@waldopresko8166]

An excellent in-depth content and analysis! Mabrook ya Dan Gibson, Mabrook!

[@GabriellaGracexo]

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[@richardwilmotph.d6747]

Every 6 minutes.

[@zongzoogly4549]

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[@johannaweichsel3602]

Still, if I was watching on TV the ads would be like twenty minutes

[@jesus644]

Prophet Mohammad was sent by Allah for all of us. Not, only for Arabs.

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

@@jesus644 Muhammad was a caravan raider who married a child and personally committed genocide on Jews in Arabia. He wasn't a prophet, he cribbed off of Jews to attempt to give his diabolical machinations an air of legitimacy.

[@MrCODEmaster999]

Makes you wonder what were those manuscripts burned.

[@sholaesho1007]

To conceal the truth...

[@MuhammadIdris-er2pd]

Ask paul

[@lindsayschilling8707]

Outstanding! I knew that the ancient City of Petra was far more important than most scholars would admit, or at least it warranted a deep dive investigation. I have always believed Petra is/was an incredibly important site for the Islamic Culture. You, Dan Gibson, have confirmed my long held belief that Petra is a very holy site (and still is) in Islamic History. Many thanks for your dedication and hard work. As a student of Anthropolgy, Fine Art, Geographical Information Systems and Geology, I was seriously struck with your findings. I've always been fascinated with Petra (I hope to see it someday); everytime I view the magnificent City, I have an overwhelming feeling that it is a site of massive importance. Many, many thanks. From, Sacramento, California.

[@AS-vq3wt]

I'm a devout Muslim and believe that indeed Petra is the true City of God. In that case, we must immediately ban foreigners from entering the holy city. In Mecca, non Muslims are not allowed to enter so this rule must immediately be put in place in Petra. I hope King Abdullah of Jordan will do so immediately.

[@iq-ride9329]

The translation is flawed, the "facts" are imaginary and he is not a historian. He's nothing but a fraud!.

[@spartan963300]

Petra predates Islam by a thousand years, wtf is this dumb documentary, straight up lying

[@simosandboifan989]

this theory was debunked.

[@AS-vq3wt]

@@simosandboifan989 nope

[@Phoenix67614]

Let me give you few clues that prove why you are WRONG BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT: - Zam Zam is in Mecca - The battle of Uhud took place BETWEEN Medina and Mecca - The sea migration of early prosecuted Muslims from Mecca to Habasha (Ethiopia) - The battle of BADR that took place only some kilometers from Mecca - The Prophet going to TAIF which very close to Mecca, he went walking, to seek support - The is a Hadeeth that tell us that when the Prophet migrated from Mecca to Medina, he passed by a place called Qudaid, which is NORTH of Mecca on the way to Medina to the East ! That on its own NAILS IT. Thank you for a good attempt to cause doubt and confusion..... but there is plenty RECORDED evidence in various Hadeeths that you have chosen to ignore, and started basing your theory on dodgy assumptions with no firm concrete evidence !

[@thesubzero61]

I just read your comment and thank you brother for that because I had written also what about zamzam water

[@andrewferg8737]

The "ka'ba" is the stone head of an Aphrodite statue. Aphrodite is directly translated as "morning star" which is the same name used for the fallen angel. That's what they worship there.

[@andrewferg8737]

Your false prophet had a dream--- and you believed him without any witnesses. "I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed!, I have dreamed! How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams" (Jeremiah 23) Why did you follow that false prophet into the desert? "So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ described by the prophet Daniel then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains....For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. See, I have told you in advance...So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the desert,’ do not go out" (Matthew 24) Why did these Muslims built their unholy Dome of the Rock directly on top of the altar in Jerusalem? "the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be" (Mark 13) Why do you follow a murderer and a liar? "Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not." (John 8)

[@thesubzero61]

@@andrewferg8737 so heard you follow the bible thats great so this means you follow paul,mark and the gang did you know this is a fact now that mark,paul and the gang where not there with jesus they came later like 300 years later they all say heard from hear say i can go on and on

[@andrewferg8737]

@@thesubzero61 From the historical record---- "Mark having become the interpreter of Peter, wrote down accurately whatsoever he remembered... he accompanied Peter, who accommodated his instructions to the necessities, but with no intention of giving a regular narrative of the Lord's sayings. Wherefore Mark made no mistake in thus writing... he took special care, not to omit anything he had heard, and not to put anything fictitious into the statements... Matthew put together the oracles in the Hebrew language" (Papias, Exposition of the Oracles of the Lord, c.110 AD) "Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect, while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome... After their deaths, Mark, the disciple and interpreter of Peter, did also hand down to us in writing what had been preached by Peter. Luke also, the companion of Paul, recorded in a book the Gospel preached by him. Afterwards, John, the disciple of the Lord, who also had leaned upon His breast, did himself publish a Gospel during his residence at Ephesus in Asia." (St. Irenaeus Against Heresies, 3.1, c.180 AD)

[@bputra90]

Why no explanation about nabawi mosque? It was build by prophet Muhammad himself

[@hope5428]

Its all a mith

[@smartbillionair6430]

They trying to mislead muslims with smartlooking assumptions of nonmuslim people!

[@whathell6t]

@@smartbillionair6430 Are you being serious or joking?

[@shueybosman2017]

@@whathell6t Shut up you hater.

[@whathell6t]

@@shueybosman2017 I wasn’t talking to you. I was talking to @smart billionair.

[@uyth336]

as we know Abraham (a.s) wife and son (ismaeel) were in desert and Ismaeel started crying because of starvation his mother was running from safaw to mrwah for water . ismaeel started crying and beating his feets on earth as a fountain formed in earth thats when it flowing alot so she started screaming "stop stop" which translates in arabic to "zam zam" ...

[@Jojo.255]

What book did you read that from?

[@awanjie5761]

Right that’s how zam zam came about and how they settled in mecca

[@muichirotokito4333]

When I searched it up on google translate it said qif quf

[@aneeshoommen72822]

@@awanjie5761 no, Zumzumiyans were group of people described in Bible,lived near the Levant around Sinai peninsula, not in present day Mecca in Saudi Arabia

[@hamisikitwana7313]

I don't believe what we are told here, time of outsiders to come and tell the truth about other countries is not popular, unless it'll be real truth

[@RustedPlastic11111]

Its quite a interesting theory' this is what he suggests by the facts he has discovered Its very interesting to have listened. Like always the victor writes history. Thats how history works destroy records and write your own history.

[@abdirevandio1687]

Hegra (Ancient Greek: Ἔγρα), also known as Mada’in Salih (Arabic: مَدَائِن صَالِح‎, romanized: madāʼin Ṣāliḥ, lit. 'Cities of Salih'), or Al-Ḥijr (ٱلْحِجْر) is located between Petra and Mecca, now in the territory of Saudi Arabia. The city of Hegra is usually called as second Petra because of its similar architecture style. Hegra is the southernmost and largest settlement of the Nabatean kingdom after Petra (its capital, modern-day Jordan), sometimes called as Nabatean's capital city for the souther region of the kingdom.

[@tueresdios3453]

Saturn is 7th Planet and 7th day which is Saturday, thats why they are spinning around the kaaba 7 times, I know about this from ancient vedic astrology called navagraha, the deity of saturn is shani which islam called him as allah, yes worshipping saturn is neutral (we worship them in hinduism also), but the abraham reLIEgion is not the good things. saturn is the god of justice and karma breaker (instead of shiva and other) thats why they worship saturn to get rid of their karma so they can push their agenda of fear.

[@mujtabaalam5907]

@@tueresdios3453 Saturn is the 6th planet. Uranus is the 7th.

[@moon-ud8tq]

OMG Saturn and the "spinning" (wonder if it's related to the Buddhists in Nepal (or was it Bhutan) where they twirl the miniature "bell" instead of the way larger bell to accomplish the twirl (long prayer?) faster).

[@yogi1kenobi]

Islam the biggest destroyer of books in history

[@gigigarza9871]

the 6 is the number of deception of incomplete of hacking, the number of the the enemy to counterfeit the Trinity God; worshipping planets, objects and perishables is pagan, demonic in disguise, Rome deceived the descendants of Abraham isaac and Jacob in the whole world under false religions and new age sharing same symbolism and absence of Jesus Christ as our redeemer. They hacked the sabbath 7 to worship on Sunday, hacked as well the rainbow symbol of God of his promise with 6 colors instead of 7. Sun and crescent moon the so called planets are luminaries, all recurring symbolism. They hacked the language the scripts the land the genders and our blood is next in order to reconstruct the totality of the tower of babel at ground level and counterfeit eternal life in spirit for eternal life on earth under trans humanism in the fallen place, using humans as carcasses for the disembodied fallen ones conquering humans by parasitism.

[@georgemello]

Fascinating. The scientific method and historiography are well done. Thank you.

@ George C Melo. Scientific method really? No factual refrences at all. It's farting from mouth and speaking from their asses. That's how it is- not even worth a contemptuous piss on it.

[@tamarabuxton2516]

I enjoyed this as much as the Simcha Jacobovici's, Naked Archyologist. 🕊️💙🇨🇦

[@versatile4444]

Scientific method??? I dont think choosing a conclusion first and then picking details from traditions and bending them to suit your narrative can be termed as scientific method.

[@Will-xf3qe]

Scientific method also includes peer review . There is much criticism of dan Gibson's works. There is no consensus on anything said here

[@GlennLC]

See also "Islam The Untold Story" and "Islam False Religion Exposed" Great documentaries as well.

[@noemi-z1l]

An absolutely great video. I learned a lot and tons made sense.

[@kalimaster0807]

Great job, Mr. Gibson! 👍 amazing discovery! God bless you for your work!

[@ornachia2489]

No one gonna mention the typo on the title?

[@ornachia2489]

@Willful Mystic Really? What its mean then?

[@ornachia2489]

@Willful Mystic Lies, gimme some proof.

[@ornachia2489]

@Willful Mystic LOL nothing came up after I search, thats why I asked for the evidence! Liar 🤡

[@eddygonzalez6018]

"The Sacrdt? City. What is a sacrdt? A misspelled Sacred!

[@melo7591]

Can’t believe I watched all of this and I’m a Catholic 😂❤

[@Chrisscappatore]

same here 😂

[@turtleneckferret]

I'm sorry

[@DerHammerSpricht]

Why wouldn't you watch the whole thing? If anything being raised Catholic is an even better reason to expose yourself to other.

[@melo7591]

@@DerHammerSpricht because my religion isn’t Islam and I’m not interested to learn but i respect them

[@khairulanwar7263]

@@melo7591 if u have free time try to read the translation of quran..nothing to lose, just try read some of the verses..

[@sparveen8817]

Proud to be a Muslim going Saudi Arabia for my 1st Ummrah in 10 days inshallah ☝🏻🕋

[@ProducedbyPDot]

you lucky as heck , AsalamuAlaikum-wa Ramatullahi Wabarakatuu

[@Jamestele1]

This is amazing and does not cause harm to "Big Religion". It is actually very respectful. Peace

[@alditoroe4103]

They’re trying to misguide this religion, but little that they know this religion is guarded by Allah. May Allah give them guidence.

[@princeofophir8353]

Probe them they are wrong....present an evidence so we will know who is really telling the truth I believe Islamic scholars will help us understand the truth...

[@ShimmeringIceCrystal626]

But no water , no trees, 10% or less precipitation, no soil that could have sustained life. No signs of any plant life inside soil samples taken from the area. No plant fossil's. 3 questions for you. How did Mohammed grow food to eat and have water to drink ? How did they survive the extreme temperatures climbing into the 100s with absolutely no water ? How did he build buildings with no binders such as water to make clay and sand to make bricks like the egyptians did with their pyramids? Also where is the river that connects the mountains like Muhammad said was in Mekkah? there is no river between the mountains However there is in Petra.

[@princeofophir8353]

@@ShimmeringIceCrystal626 you are so right....

[@alditoroe4103]

​@@ShimmeringIceCrystal626 Look, it's not my duty to proof this is false or not, for i'm already a believer of Qur'an and there are many other field that Qur'an has already proven that it is the true revelation,, because i'm not an archeologist or whatsoever, i can't answer your question.. in my understanding this research was adressed to muslim to proof that direction of qibla was wrong all this time, but as muslim i think this research was not legit enough and maybe i'll find some answer from muslim scollars to help me. Maybe other muslim brothers/ sister who studied on this field can answer your questions.

[@alditoroe4103]

@@ShimmeringIceCrystal626 btw, it's not like there's no water source in mecca, there's a well called zam-zam in there and you can still find it nowadays in mecca,, it's been there since the time of abraham..

[@prajnaparamita9299]

It is truly amazing that the Qibla of Guangzhou could direct to Petra thousands of km away at that time.

[@drgonzothe4th]

What does that mean, sounds interesting

[@Eskalante]

@@drgonzothe4th Probably old Nabatean holy city. Culture and religion of that place before islam. Mostly the basis from which some of islams customs were created.

[@mohdnazirismail2024]

The old time direction is not using technolgy that we have today. Its just approximately to Mecca. Not exactly by calculation. How do they know exact points to Mecca at that time??😇

[@prajnaparamita9299]

@@mohdnazirismail2024 Not saying this hypothesis is the truth. But I do believe there would be no requirement of qibla if they don't have the way to chart the exact direction in the first place. Besides, how do Arabic merchants navigate their way in the remote desert and oceans? They could lose their lives if they mis-calculate.

[@mohdnazirismail2024]

@@prajnaparamita9299 It is not suppose to be exactly. At least they know where Mecca is located. Weither its east,west,north or south. Just face the direction and pray. And please remember it is God order. Not human being. In fact before Mecca, prophet Muhammad PBUH facing Majid Al-Aqsa in palestin and the Jews always mocking the prophet regarding the Qibla of praying. The Jews also facing towadrs Majid Al-Aqsa. سَيَقُولُ السُّفَهَاءُ مِنَ النَّاسِ مَا وَلَّاهُمْ عَن قِبْلَتِهِمُ الَّتِي كَانُوا عَلَيْهَا قُل لِّلَّهِ الْمَشْرِقُ وَالْمَغْرِبُ يَهْدِي مَن يَشَاءُ إِلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ The fools among the people will say: "What hath turned them from the Qibla to which they were used?" Say: To Allah belong both east and West: He guideth whom He will to a Way that is straight. وَكَذَٰلِكَ جَعَلْنَاكُمْ أُمَّةً وَسَطًا لِّتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاءَ عَلَى النَّاسِ وَيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ عَلَيْكُمْ شَهِيدًا وَمَا جَعَلْنَا الْقِبْلَةَ الَّتِي كُنتَ عَلَيْهَا إِلَّا لِنَعْلَمَ مَن يَتَّبِعُ الرَّسُولَ مِمَّن يَنقَلِبُ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ وَإِن كَانَتْ لَكَبِيرَةً إِلَّا عَلَى الَّذِينَ هَدَى اللَّهُ وَمَا كَانَ اللَّهُ لِيُضِيعَ إِيمَانَكُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ بِالنَّاسِ لَرَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by Allah. And never would Allah Make your faith of no effect. For Allah is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful. قَدْ نَرَىٰ تَقَلُّبَ وَجْهِكَ فِي السَّمَاءِ فَلَنُوَلِّيَنَّكَ قِبْلَةً تَرْضَاهَا فَوَلِّ وَجْهَكَ شَطْرَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرَامِ وَحَيْثُ مَا كُنتُمْ فَوَلُّوا وُجُوهَكُمْ شَطْرَهُ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ لَيَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ وَمَا اللَّهُ بِغَافِلٍ عَمَّا يَعْمَلُونَ We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens: now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do.

[@dixonqwerty]

Wow, really interesting and thorough documentary!! I really enjoyed watching this!

[@litebkt]

No amount of evidence can change what people believe.

[@TheRonoTV2024]

Especially a death cult.

[@thelifeanddimension]

It is always still a conflict when building a masjid so minor variations takes place in direction or qibla.mostly in old days

[@farmag]

How come? The GPS on their phones are acting up?

[@humeraq]

These ppl seem to have an agenda ....to mislead , to create disinformation. What a waste of effort.

[@Sagemaze]

@@humeraqdid you not watch the video

[@TheBogardman]

His explation about 3 different directions of every mosques built is to me is acceptable. I find this video story is something 90% right. Am sure before the mosque is guoing to finished Muslim leaders during those time are consulted about the exact direction because that is Muhammad instructions where to face direction in time of praying.

[@anitailmaniati4604]

Title: The Sacred City - Kaaba In Mecca Content: only opinions that the holy city isn't in Mecca, by forgetting some facts from Islamic history Such a waste 🙄

[@princeofophir8353]

Haven't you seen the facts thats been presented? Was it not enough? If is not then the burden of proof to discredit the research is already in your side..probe them wrong....I believe this research is open for discussion make your stand then.....

[@larethaa495]

@Ilyass ELK The black stones (Hajr e Aswad) is not inside Kaaba. It's on one corner of outer wall surface of Kaaba 🙂

[@danielfisher7016]

Cope harder.

[@msafwan3010]

also inconsistency with Zam-zam water, since Petra is said to have a river then how to fit Zam-zam spring water into Petra as Mecca story? how to fit Medina which is 1000km away from Petra into the Petra as Mecca story? also the Tomb & the houses, if Petra is Mecca then why is the Tomb in Saudi Arabia, Mecca not in Petra?

[@nziom]

@Commentator he is talking about the inconsistency of this shit propaganda video

[@wanrazul]

Maybe Ibn Zubair moved the Tomb as well? As for Zamzam, the river *is* Zamzam....maybe...

[@nziom]

@@wanrazul zamzam is a well not a river also his entire family (Prophet Muhammad) lived in mecca in Saudi Arabia for centuries and there is evidence of that this so called documentary is full on conspiracy theorie BS

[@wanrazul]

@@nziom Becca, not Mecca. Becca is Petra. Next umrah will be in Jordan instead of Saudi Arabia.

[@nziom]

@@wanrazul excuse me what? Bekkah is the old name of Mecca the only other place that is thought to be named bekka is the vally of baca in Palastaine located in Jerusalem not Petra or any place in Jordan also Petra is a city that is part of the nabatean kingdom they are Abnanite Arabs while pre-islamic Mecca belonged to Qahtanian Arabs not to mention Ismail and hajar are both buried in the kabah in Saudi Arabia as well as so many important Islamic figures and no one can or is allowed to change that also Jordan was under the rule of the Roman Empire at that time if islam started there ,there would a war with the Roman Empire right away just like in Christianity with Jesus this document claim's are to crazy to be true

[@TheRickardo]

Very interesting documentary. As a paleontologist, I really hope people think about it more deeply instead of condemning it.

[@Guljan_cuisine_zv6bw]

No body is condemning but telling the reality

[@najafinam2062]

Zam zam is in Mecca, please

[@zouhshaf9019]

when they have nothing to prove wrong Islam so now they turn to manipulate with lies and more lies .

[@danielfisher7016]

@@zouhshaf9019 Enjoy sticking your head in the ground and not looking at evidence that does not hurt your religion, and in fact fixes a historical wrong, and hating him for trying to pull you out of ignorance.

[@wtwrva]

your theory makes sense to me. Great research!

[@c5quared626]

nah it's pathetic, he doesnt understand ancient religion. in the area. many buildings were originally facing jerusalem, others were simply estimated to be mecca. the data shows that he has fudged much of this to back his agenda.

[@worfoz]

@@c5quared626 seems like he conpromised YOUR hidden agenda lol and indeed, your commenty is most pathetic, lol level

[@c5quared626]

@@worfoz yup he compromised my truth in science and history agenda. scholarly opinion still means something outside racist jerk circles

[@worfoz]

@@c5quared626 islam is an arab, gay jerk cicle, in everyone´s opinion.Sumerians invented the creation myth, Great Flood and the idea of a god-ruler we all must obey. what is your `truth in science`? science does not need you, your trust or your beliefs, I hope you understand

[@c5quared626]

@@worfoz you are making assumptions, im not religious, from your language you are hateful and spiteful, even athiests and dogs would find this repulsive. science tells me ancient people used religion to not be like you.

[@DeBellorumSimulationibus]

To be honest, this is a very low quality video. I was left disappointed. I found this video: The Original Kaaba & The Other Kaabas: The Houses of Gods Made of Stone Above Wells | [Documentary] by Vlad Racovita much more complete and better researched, if you want to give it a check.

[@wasiulogun3435]

Bilal was the first person ever to call to prayer. He called to prayer in presence of the prophet of Muhammad (S.A.W) in Mecca not Becca or Petra.

[@Ufor332]

Becca is Mecca's other name and it's in the Quran. Ridiculous documentary lol.

[@DerHammerSpricht]

@@Ufor332 Did you look at any evidence to back this up other than "in the Quran"?

[@BigreeMom]

@@DerHammerSprichtdo u know harum n haraam are two different words

[@notescreators2308]

In my place, Indonesia, Java, the mosque does not actually face the Qibla, but faces west, but when praying, of course it is slightly tilted by a few degrees and facing the Qibla, maybe when building a mosque there are many aspects that must be considered, such as location, road access , gps technology that did not exist in the past, not everyone can know the accurate direction using stars

[@shahidachoudhury6925]

In the past Arabian Muslims were master about using star to find accurate directions.

[@notescreators2308]

@@shahidachoudhury6925 I think the stars only show the direction of north or south, not the perfect location of a place, I mean look at the maps of ancient people. it looks really weird, so it's not that simple to finding directions from a certain location, and do you know when the most accurate map was found???

[@AKumar528]

@@shahidachoudhury6925 haha, no they were not.

[@windwind6755]

Watch Christian Prince Debates

[@alieftmd]

@@shahidachoudhury6925 even they're master, there's a high possibility they show the wrong qibla

[@sippndipp]

Considering that Mekka is the one major site of Saudi Arabia, I can't help but think of what happened to that other journalist who pissed off a royal family member of the country surrounding this city.

[@isatousarr7044]

Islam's most sacred site, the Kaaba in Mecca, holds profound spiritual and historical significance for Muslims worldwide. As the focal point of the Hajj pilgrimage and daily prayers, it embodies a deep connection to the faith's origins and the Prophet Abraham's legacy. The Kaaba's rich history, including its reconstruction and the rituals performed around it, continues to inspire and unite millions of believers, fostering a sense of global Islamic identity and devotion. Its mysteries and enduring reverence underscore the spiritual depth and cultural heritage of Islam.

[@alessioleporati1478]

How can you misplace an entire city? Is that even possible?

[@nziom]

It's pure propaganda don't worry KZbin is full of these false videos

[@drpk6514]

This is a joke. Mecca has never been destroyed to be lost.

[@mukkaar]

It's not about misplacement, if an country can claim mecca for itself they would gain quite a bit of political and religious power. Religion has always been tool for power, religion now due to powerful secular governments is actually much more tame. That said, in Islamic world you can still clearly see how religion is used as very powerful tool for power. Winners write the history books, and same goes for Religious books. Religion is something that evolves and molded to suit one's needs like pretty much everything in this world.

[@risymian3374]

Dan Gibson is just a self-published author. Many scholar discredited his claims. One of such scholars is David A. King, a british orientalist & historian, who has published a solid critiques on Dan's claim about the Qibla & the position of the city of Mecca. Assuming that you have watched this 1 hour-long video. I suggest that you read David's critique on this link : www.researchgate.net/publication/330221815_King_The_Petra_fallacy_The_Petra_fallacy_-_Early_mosques_do_face_the_Sacred_Kaaba_in_Mecca_but_Dan_Gibson_doesn't_know_how_Comparing_historical_orientations_with_modern_directions_can_lead_to_false_re

[@pigeonlady3525]

The winners write history? Same thing happens with all religions/beliefs.

[@jadez.p.4719]

really interesting and serious work here, it's always good to question what the History wrote, depending on who wrote it indeed, to see the original truth. And this is not only a question for Islam but for all religious and even Human's History and origins in general

[@derekflegg2510]

*handshakes*

[@c5quared626]

maybe he should now go and see how true the gospels are, and who actually wrote them in greek?

[@versatile4444]

Im afraid this is not a serious work. And rather has all the telltale signs of a poorly constructed, imaginative conspiracy theory

[@cathygillis7083]

@@versatile4444 have you evidence for your statement? I believe it is quite possibly true. We are finding that most of our recorded history is inaccurate to some degree if not totally false. I would be interested in your reply.

[@xyzcr3w]

@@versatile4444 Cognitive Dissonance. It’s a very WELL constructed theory, with compelling evidence to support it. Sorry you don’t like it.

[@mazilramzeen1984]

Dear sir, we muslims are teached, how to find the kibla the direction for prayers. It Is very simple that's by looking at the our shadow with the sun only. Early morning from 6.00am to 12.00 noon we have to face alone the direction of our shadow. And after 12.00 noon till night ,we have face opposite to the direction of our shadow. This shadow of ours should be only with the help of the sun. Which gives only one direction. Due to time passes or earthquakes if the direction changes. this is the only way to identify the true direction. If iam wrong pls correct me.thank you❤

[@pakkarim]

Seeing the continuous reverts to Islam, they fear the power of the religion and the failure of theirs.

[@Kamille-Blanc13]

Absolutely fascinating ❤

[@izharfatima5295]

Petra was there during Romans period the Roman accounts doesn't support that it was inhabited by Qureish.

[@hans471]

Recently writings have been found from the time of Mohammed in Petra which support that people there spoke arabic (in the arabic quarter of the city)

[@Qthetar]

Petra is for Arabs but it wasn’t a Muslim nation, it was ruled by Roman

[@khaldrogo4460]

​@@hans471nonsense

[@annaskov5723]

As soon as I heard the premise of this documentary about 3 minutes in, I was like, "hang on, who is this" so I looked him up. He's self published. Never published any actual academic papers. I can't even find info on where he went to school. If you're going to make a documentary and heavily feature an "expert," you should really disclose his credentials

[@blue_diamond_gem]

I would like to see his theory academically debunked with facts and not emotion.

[@Str8murkufool17]

Academic "credentialing" just means you're willing to say what everyone else before you has said. Which is not scientific in nature but is authoritative in nature.

[@Str8murkufool17]

​​@@blue_diamond_gemcan't be done

[@sumiahaltalhi4767]

​@@blue_diamond_gemif you are seriously looking for evidence to debunk a will happily provide some

[@sumiahaltalhi4767]

​@@blue_diamond_gem Are you serious? He haven't intrduced one evidence! ... Or a book or a map he pulled a story out of his ass. I was laughing the whole time. He twisted every sentence he said to suit his narrative. I'm proudly from Hudhail tribe, we are from mecca and we extend to Taif, this is our territory and our land and historg. our poetry is the only well documented poetry in the arab history. And I have never read or heard or imagined that the place that I'm living in is not mecca. And mecca was concerned an oasis and big village of course! Have you visited saudi arabia. We use to drive around the looking for a tree's shadow on picnics. Mecca had couple of trees and a spring of water!! That's a huge thing for us. Another thing he is lying about is: there is no archaeological permits in hijaz at all. No one can move a rock, although they have been thinking about allowing certain efforts. Hijaz history is continuous history, we didn't parish or disappear or flee to another place. We still here we know our history and since Mohmmmad SWT is considered a cousin then we would proudly preserve this history.

[@oswaldomendez6790]

Always thank you for keeping us informed

[@izharfatima5295]

How did during abbasids period all the philosophical work which was translated from Greek to latin by Romans was translated in Arabic?

[@sousoumultigaminggz7227]

exactly sister ! he is lying, like for exemple when he said becca in arabic has been changed to mecca just with "b" to"m" but this "m" (mim) is not writting like this, it's upper normaly (i found his way of lying with this, he just forcing the things to result his way...anyway !)

[@ozaniqbal5629]

He forget about quran that marchan bring to other region like in asia

[@sarahlevine776]

Maybe it will help with the preservation of Petra as a holy site if they agree it is true. Maybe it would also help with any restoration efforts as well.

[@AS-vq3wt]

First thing we have to do is ban non Muslims from entering Petra. They're not allowed in Mecca and shouldn't be allowed in Petra either. I hope king Abdullah will watch this and immediately ban all non Muslims from entering our holy city.

[@h.j.peters.2891]

I liked this but the 15 adverts really didnt help.

[@XiamaraLaurensWifeyMu]

Did not see one. Ad Block Plus helps.

[@mx5701]

@@XiamaraLaurensWifeyMu AdBlock Plus is garbage. They get bribed by ad companies to whitelist some shit. Just use uBlock Origin.

[@mafioso77777]

(لِإِيلَافِ قُرَيْشٍ (1) إِيلَافِهِمْ رِحْلَةَ الشِّتَاءِ وَالصَّيْفِ (2) فَلْيَعْبُدُوا رَبَّ هَذَا الْبَيْتِ (3) الَّذِي أَطْعَمَهُمْ مِنْ جُوعٍ وَآمَنَهُمْ مِنْ خَوْفٍ (4)) Read well this is in the Quraan

[@yxmxxn]

The location of Masjid Al-Aqsa was the original qibla

[@Cypher-bo3pb]

Interesting. Where does it say Mohammed destroyed many other stone Gods?In which City?

[@imaditani]

In the city of Mecca.

[@azifazeez]

Since when did we start to pray towards the black rock. The heck? It's the whole structure.

[@NeverDieIsHarD]

i wont blame them to think so, since its only the hajr aswad that's been moved and not the whole kabah. from jerusalem (by abraham) to mecca/petra/becca (and if this movie is true then to the nowadays mecca). i even have conspiracy theory: - its stated that the original rock was not black - when theres no longer anyone pray that the time when dajjal ressurect/released and thats the mark when the time when then end of the world is near - a myth that when someone have too many sins they cant find their way to kabah then does that mean that dajjal was sealed in the rock? and our prayer was a way to purify it?kissing it to teach him about love (and try not to destroy the world)? so, dont forget your prayer no mater how busy you're. because one less prayer mean that time is nearer. and protect kabah with your life if you have to :D

[@iqbalpancanugraha2248]

@@NeverDieIsHarD agreed with your theory but i think there was a miss understanding when you said dajjal was sealed in kabah, there's Hadits which said "there was 3 places that dajjal cant even get in it was the holy city of mecca, Madinah and Masjidil aqsa because the 3 places was guarded by the angel". Then how come dajjal was sealed there when dajjal cant even get into that city? CMIIW

[@سبحاناللهعددخلقه-ث3ص]

actually not, if you outside the Almasjid Alharam you face your face to al masjid al haram if you inside al masjid alharam you face the Kaaba

[@NeverDieIsHarD]

@@iqbalpancanugraha2248 well... after the era of solomon angel/djin/demon seems to be ordered (or a truce?) to not affect human life directly, at best they can only give blessing/curse/the like (until the promised date when dajjal/satan was released where there will be battle of the two side). so, it probably mean that until he's released the angel wont direcrecly guard that place. or perhaps it mean that when the war begin that place was the last safe heaven and the capital of the alied troops who fight dajjal... well... im not a prophet and what i said is not a revelation either... so...who knows... hahaha....

[@azifazeez]

@Rihana Sultan immediately stopped watching.

[@veritas_sweden]

Thank you for your research and hope this information will reach every horn of the world.

[@anuppass]

Cheruman perumal mosque was completed in 629 AD. That is the oldest mosque in Asia. Not sure why this was not checked

[@manly19f6]

can we trust you to go check it?

[@noillsmatter9090]

There are plenty of terrorists inside, researchers cannot enter, sorry. 😅

[@dongjesspaltigerv8334]

Ka'aba was suppose to destroy by king abraha of yemen bcoz of jealousy who witnessed by prophet uncle before the prophet birth but ababel birds sent down by Allah to destroy the soldiers of king abraha.

[@luvcrim]

@VI's Very Own 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@sajshaikh2426]

VI's Very Own , you are a son of dajjal . Thats why u know where your dad lives

[@arafjan7488]

The mention of grapes was in Taif not Mecca. The Kaaba and Zamzam well were in Mecca.

[@excelsior31107]

If it is true what was said that the origin of the Kaaba is not in today’s Mecca but in Petra, why are Saudi Arabia and Jordan been decidedly muted on this issue? The Organization of the Islamic Cooperation also been noticeably quiet. Why aren’t they speaking out? And haven’t you wondered why over 98% of the Islamic historical sites in that Kingdom have been destroyed since 1985? Even the Prophet’s house in Mecca, signs in four languages warn visitors and say that there is no proof that the Prophet Muhammad was born there, so it is forbidden to make the place specific for praying, supplicating or get blessing. The house of the Prophet’s first wife, Khadijah has made way for public toilets. A Hilton hotel stands on the site of the house of Islam’s first caliph, Abu Bakr. It’s not just in Mecca either. Over a year ago, the split in Mount Uhud, north of Medina, where Muhammad was said to have been carried after being wounded in the famous Battle of Uhud was filled with concrete. A fence went up at the base of the mountain, warning visitors that it was just like any other mountains. Six small mosques in Medina where Muhammad is believed to have prayed have been locked. The seventh, belonging to Islam’s first caliph Abu Bakr, has been razed to make way for an ATM. Isn’t this odd to you? Only time will tell.

[@arafjan7488]

@@excelsior31107 I was outraged by the ignorant Ibn Saud dogs- destroying Khadijah's house where Jibreel AS would attend. They're helping Islam becoming a stranger destroying points of reference

[@excelsior31107]

@@arafjan7488 Maybe they want to cover up a history that never really happened over there. The proof is that the Saudi never included Mecca as one of the cities of history under UNITED Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (ENESCO).

[@newlearner8701]

is there a zamzam well in petra?

[@tomassankara5067]

I don’t know how a scholar that claims to be a professional could miss the glaring evidence of Zamzam in determining the location of Mecca and the Kaaba. The well has been there for about 5000 years and is still there today.

[@newlearner8701]

@@tomassankara5067 this guy is clearly not good at what is he doing Or he is trying so hard to debunk the only true religion.

[@The_Truth_of_Yeshua]

There is also no zemzem well in macca. The was no water 😂

[@timfoinc.6879]

In Korean words= Bu- Suh- Zy- Da/ Broken into pieces. Liquids, powders or sands are not but rocks or human skulls and bones can be broken down into paste and powders. Enemies try to brake them into powdery dust with angers and inferiority hearts and fists. And when Strom days, they gathered under the rocks. How bad groups are they.

[@MrChucke711]

@@casablanka208 Science thinks it's God but they ignore their tools keep going obsolete/fail so now Science is a Democracy of the cult and if you fail to vote correctly you are tossed aside as a heretic.

[@jibraani10]

Islam and Muslim has always been from the beginning of time of creation it means submitting yourself to the one and true creator who is Allah swt and it also means Peace Alhamdulilah proud to be a Muslim ❤️❤️❤️

[@windwind6755]

Watch Christian Prince Debates and don't be i-d-i-0-t

[@japaris75]

Fascinating. Where exactly in Petra would the original Kaaba have been?

[@meshlrd1047]

@Ilyass ELK or maybe you don't actually believe in historical facts 🤣

[@meshlrd1047]

@Based Haris let's face it wether or not there is a true evidence that Islam and is teaching is right or wrong no Muslim would believe it! No matter how strong the evidence is i was born in Saudi Arabia I'm Saudi so i know what I'm talking about. The fact that Arabic came from Syryani language debunks the whole belief that Islam came in a form of a new language. I'm sorry but there is too much evidence

[@ChangedNames]

@@meshlrd1047 Just because a "Scientist" did his "research" doesnt make it a fact. Did you forget doctors get paid to say nestle powder are the best for children and far superior than mother's milk, or how mercury was a miracle element and people have to use it in everything and eat and drink with it, or how the human soul was actually related to steam, Or how the spanish flu was because of spain, and many more "Well Researched and sources coming for Established professionals". In the end of the day these people were nothing more than liars all for the sake of Political or Material Gains. He said "straight facts" My man a minute in and the video was full of inaccurate explanation of islam and its tradition. These people where probably desperate to find something to pin on muslims to get famous. 30 years in the gulf he said

[@ChangedNames]

@@meshlrd1047 When was it mentioned that islam came in a new language? Arabic is an old well established language at the time and the quran came to the most befitting language arabic. No other language could compare to the sophistication of the arabic language. Also what about languages come from specific roots? Hebrew and Arabic have the same root, the entire region are semitic. Also Saudi as in an a half breed or something I bet

[@meshlrd1047]

@@ChangedNames nope 100000% Saudi but I guess it hurts when you find someone who opposes ur idea and beliefs shh don't snitch that I'm an ex-muslim u know it ain't cute getting stoned to death u say what a religion of peace ha? Yeah right 😊😅

[@alexander19681]

Professional approach.

[@sylvia7000]

very interesting material

[@dfwtransport2420]

​kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ3LhGipfM6hgLM

[@andrewferg8737]

The "ka'ba" is the stone head of an Aphrodite statue. Aphrodite is directly translated as "morning star" which is the same name used for the fallen angel. That's what they worship there. Your false prophet had a dream--- and you believed him without any witnesses. "I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed!, I have dreamed! How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams" (Jeremiah 23) Why did you follow that false prophet into the desert? "So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ described by the prophet Daniel then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains....For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. See, I have told you in advance...So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the desert,’ do not go out" (Matthew 24) Why did these Muslims built their unholy Dome of the Rock directly on top of the altar in Jerusalem? "the abomination of desolation standing where it should not be" (Mark 13) Why do you follow a murderer and a liar who promised you sex orgies in heaven? "Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not." (John 8)

[@karimahmad5425]

How about qiblat of Nabawi Mosque.?

[@coolfool147]

boy forgot to do that lol

[@excelsior31107]

Since Muhammad is acted like Allah himself, so it will male sense if you face the qibla in that direction.

[@coolfool147]

@@excelsior31107 where in the Quran Allah says he is Muhammad? This dude you cappin hard. Boy educate yourself before you post, cause it seems like your just a here to troll around. We worship the creator we dont worship any creation.

[@excelsior31107]

@@coolfool147 Dude, how would you know that the one you worship is your creator? The answer is that you don’t really know that. You should always make sure to stay rather critical towards religion in order not to believe in flawed arguments that may potentially lead to bad outcomes for your life.Throughout human history, there’s thousands of Gods and Goddessess with different kind of religions. You can't just relying on them blindly and believe without thinking about the good and bad with the religion you were born into and think that your religion is only the true religion. Even though the majority of believers have moderate attitudes and want to practice their religion in a peaceful manner, there are always a radical groups which try to use religion for their purposes in order to start radical movements and organizations, which in turn can lead to the death of many people all over the globe. Listen dude, nobody knows exactly what’s the right way to live and if religious movements claim to know this, believe me they are for sure not the thing you want to rely on. Since the Quran had been written for so many times thousands of years ago, it is quite hard for many of you to verify what had been written in those holy books and have to rely on interpretations and translations that may often be incorrect or misleading by the imams or by the fundamentalists Muslims which can lead to quite unpleasant outcomes with a major factor for conflict. The arguments that are made by religious people can often be disproved by scientists. Yet, those who are mentaly religious still often claim that Adam and Eve exists and that is much more believable than scientific research and should rather rely on it instead of science in order to understand where we all came from. This can lead to quite dangerous outcomes since many concepts of evolution had been proven right while many religious concepts don’t. Therefore, you should make important decisions based on your own thinking and not due to religious aspects since you might get in trouble otherwise for not using your brain wisely in the long run.

[@anaskpalmalaki8804]

His theory that the first kibla was facing Petra was already debunked by Prof David King,Johann Wolfgang Goethe University. You can google and download his paper. To say Islam started in Petra instead of Mecca, Dan Gibson need to find Hira Cave, Zam Zam well, Location where the first mosque was constructed, location for the Battle of Uhud, Badr etc and need to prove the reason the Petran abandoned Petra for Mecca. Unless he can proved this then his theory can never pull any traction.

[@ImCarolB]

I'd like to hear the debates on the final questions!

[@dfwtransport2420]

When Moses brought the Israelites out of Egypt he gave them a sign to wear indicating they would go on the Hajj to Mecca. However, due to their taking the calf as a god to worship they were punished and never allowed to go to the Kaaba. Mecca was far south of where the exodus and wandering in the wilderness took place. ---- The Kaaba was built by Abraham and Ishmael. Other Prophets including Jethro (father in law of Moses) went on the Hajj. Moses, JESUS and other Rabbis wear the TEFFELIN, a symbol of the Black Stone Bldg on their arm and forehead - -- The system of the cube is a blessing from GOD to take mankind out of the slavery of the system of the Pyramid (NWO). As true today as back then. ----- kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ3LhGipfM6hgLM

[@dorandacolbert5973]

@@dfwtransport2420 The Kaaba was dedicated to Paganism until the birth of Islam 2000 years later. Why would God punish them for worshiping one idol then send them to another?

[@tomolo2619]

***////////⚠️⚠️ Allah's prophets are named after another GOD⚠️⚠️ Has Allah forgotten his name or is he just an IDOL!⚠️⚠️//////////**** Why is it the unforgivable sin in Islam to confess " there is only one God and this is YHWH"" The Name Jesus means------------- ***"YHWH SAVES "** Elijah means------------- --------------***" MY GOD IS YHWH"*** John means ----------------------------***" YHWH has been gracious""*** Zakariya means -----------------------***""YHWH has remembered""*** ******are all prophets according to the Quran*********

[@MSSProductions1]

I'm 100% convinced by this

[@vik7540]

Isn't the picture of Kabaa or the Kabaa worshipping an IDOL.Its a stone that is worshipped.

[@nickim1085]

Love your videos ,thank you for the insight.

[@nicksantus5307]

Petra is the real place Unfortunately they have found evidence of The prophets family there which did give a big clue Amongst many other things that matched up with the stories Mecca was a one horse town in the middle of nowhere at the time way of of the silk road

[@otitigbeobadiahoghoeroreal461]

Petra was buitl buy the Geks centries befroe Christ. The Greeks populated all those areas up to Turkey and Lebanon. The images shown in Petra are very Greek. Maybe Mohammed had a Greek Ancestry if he was born in Petra.

[@shazminbahari32]

No way Petra is as holy as Mecca

[@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus]

Surah Al Iklas

[@magnarez]

I note, not many of any muslims commented on this… I watch this and it answers many long standing questions and makes perfect sense. I’d be interested to hear Muslims feelings on this…

[@nethansamuel96]

They deny it 😊

[@fafahaa]

جيد ان هجميل ان هناك من يهتم لرأي المسلمين ومشاعرهم ..! وهذا ما لم نتعوده عليه ممن يسمون (علماء) وبما انك سألت عن مشاعرنا فهي مليئة بالحزن على اناس لم يهتموا الا بمحاولة اظهار شيء يعتبر بالنسبه لنا كمسلمين بديهي ومن الامور المثبته ..! وصدقني كان تساؤولي طوال الفلم عن هذا الشخص مالذي دفعه لانتاج الفلم انه حتى غير مسلم ،؟ والاجابه :انه عمل غبي موجه للمسيحيين وهو مقدمه لعمل عدائي ض ضد العربيه

[@magnarez]

@@fafahaa no option to translate. Can you put in English by any chance?

[@fafahaa]

@@magnarez It is nice that there are those who care about the opinions and feelings of Muslims..! This is what we are not accustomed to from the so-called (scientists). This documentary is not a scientific discovery, but rather an intelligence service that plays on the convictions and constants of the people who are farthest from this region. Since you asked about our feelings, they are full of sadness for people who only cared about trying to show something that is considered self-evident to us as Muslims and among the things Installed..! And believe me, I was wondering throughout the film about this person: What prompted him to produce the film, that he is not even a Muslim? The answer: It is an action directed at Christians and it is a prelude to a hostile action against Saudi Arabia in favor of Greater Israel. Mecca has areas for Hajj arranged in time and place. What does a Muslim do here and do there? All of this came in texts that the Qur’an and the teachings of the Messenger, may God bless him and grant him peace, told us. As for trade routes, there were caravans in the summer heading to the Levant and in the winter they headed to Yemen. The Okaz market gathered people and poets. There was even a Saudi newspaper called Okaz. As for the farms, it is not true that they were devoid of farms, even if we assume that there is no greenery in it. The closest place to it is the city of Taif, which is 40 away from it. Mila is one of the cities that grows a variety of fruits and is described as a piece of the Levant due to the fertility of its land. As for the effects that he is searching for, they are the same effects that he is trying to keep us away from. Does he need more than the foundations raised by our master Abraham and the daughter of Ishmael, peace be upon them? The Kaaba, which is the first mosque built for people and the first building built by Adam, peace be upon him. If this information is not enough for you, tell me, and if I convince you, please share it again here 🪒

[@mszeal]

Muslim here. Makkah, our Qibla, is in Saudia Arabia because that is where Zam Zam well, Safa Marwa, Jabal al-Nour and the Hira Cave are also located.

[@Impalajungle2010]

Good try on getting to holywood, reading Islam 101 should help your journey, all the best

[@hans471]

How do you explain that all early qiblas point in direction of Petra?

[@meerhusain5155]

Presented his purposeful incorrect theory. .....

[@sampono1962]

why non-Muslim call the Kaaba the Black Rock? It s a cube covered with black cloth. The colour of the cube s not even black.

[@otitigbeobadiahoghoeroreal461]

Good to know that. Do they usually change the cloth. I even read that the Saudis captured the place from the Yemenites. The rock was said to be a shrine of the Yemenites. The part that interested me most was to know that Muslims burnt down the library of Alexandria as I had suspected and not the Europeans

[@medalaeeladlani5683]

@@otitigbeobadiahoghoeroreal461 huh?? Muslims didn't burn that library don't try to stick that to them

[@ezzovonachalm7534]

@@otitigbeobadiahoghoeroreal461 the first dude who accidentally burned down the bibliothek of Alexandria was Gnaeus Ivlivs Caesar ! (Bellum alexandrinum).

[@AshtonIsExisting]

As a Christian this is insanely cool! I love learning about the world, and especially religion. I think it is very interesting.

[@rimz100ify]

Mosque Al-Aqsa was the first Qiblah of Muslims. It is the second House of Allah built on earth. Al-Aqsa is the place where hundreds of messenger of Allah is buried. Lots of miracles happened there, it is also mentioned in the quran directly and indirectly 70 times in the Quran, where the angels have descended with Allahs messengers. AL-Aqsa mosque is the only place on earth where all the messengers prayed at the same time led by Mohammed (swa) Al-Aqsa mosque is the only mosque mentioned in the Quran apart from the Ka'bah. So this might explain a few things.

[@Syria_Free_Palestine_will_too]

your claim have a lot of problems: 1- We know that The First who built the Kaaba was Ibrahim and his son Ismael, because Allah ordered Abraham to Immigrate with his wife to a place which no water, no food, no crops, no trees which is Mecca not Petra (Petra have water, food, trees...) but when they reach to Mecca, he went back by Order of God leaving his wife and son in this place with small amount of food and water, after few weeks, the food and water end, so Hajar started going between Safa and Marwa 7 times searching for water and food, but she don't find anything until she heard Angel Gabriel hit the ground and then the Zamzam water that we know in Mecca appeared this water is special, even the science prove that this water is the most pure and blessed water in the earth, after that Abraham come back to Mecca to kill his Son (Ismael) but we know what happened, after that Allah ordered Ibrahim and Ismael to build The Kaaba, in certain position (Mecca) near to the place that he leave her wife and his son (Mecca) and they built it, two things also proves that that position located in Mecca, 1- because that place must be not inhabitants, but Petra is really old city older than Ibrahim himself (this proven historically) 2- that place must be in desert, without no source of living (Mecca not Petra) because after he finished the building of Kaaba, he demanded Allah to make this place full of blessings and crops so if he was in Petra why he will demand Allah to make the place agriculture if it already agriculture so even The sol of Mecca not good for growing, Allah make it possible. 2- The Prophet travelled to Ethiopia by the sea, which close to Mecca and very far from Petra 3- Petra was under the control of Romans during the first period of Islam and we know that Quraysh wasn't under the control of Romans but they was part of Arab tribes that lives individually (no country or civilization) 4- Also Petra during that time was Christian but Quraish are polytheism worshipping the idols. 5- Also Battle of Badr and Uhud occurred near to Mecca and Medina so if Quraysh was in Petra then why these battles occurred near to Mecca and above that one of reasons why Battle of Uhud occurred because Muslims stopped Quraish from going to Syria, now just imagine, Quraish in Petra and Islam in Medina, how Muslims can break the line between Syria and Quraish??? 6- Allah promised to Protect the Kaaba from the Disasters until the time of destruction which will be in future when Dhu'l-Suwayqatayn will destroy it, and he is from Ethiopia, that means that Ethiopia is close to Kaaba so Mecca not Petra also Allah mentioned Mecca in The Holy book which Allah promised to protect it from hands of corrupters so Mecca exist 7- Also the word Mecca means the place where people really want to go so it's not change from Becca to Mecca but it has a meaning 8- For The Qiblah: People before 14 centuries don't have much of knowledge where the Qibla located exactly they aren't machines or they have GPS that's why Allah says that Qibla must be toward *Chatr* Masjid Al Haram (I already proved is located in Mecca) please put 100 lines under *Chatr* , Chatr means around Masjid Al Haram not itself 100%, and even those in Africa and Europe who put their Qibla to South Africa they are following Chatr of Mecca! 9- Also Allah mentioned the place of Prophet Muhammad by saying we made you in middle nation, of course Mecca is in exactly in middle of Arabian peninsula not Petra. 10- Also in Sahih Hadith, Prophet Muhammad mentioned Mecca as his city. 11- Also Muhammad predicted that around Kaaba tall buildings will construct 12- Just Imagine Allah/God let this mistake occur it's impossible, especially when Allah promised Ibrahim that Kaaba that he built will be gathered by million of people, so if even Ibrahim built the original Kaaba in Petra, then we will see millions of Muslims there!

[@japanesus_]

Serious question.. Did you even watch the documentary? The navigational stars in the sky hold no bias, my friend. All the early mosques point to Petra for a specific reason.

[@davidlevi7537]

😂😂 their claim with historical evidence has problems. But your story hasn't. It is the problem of your belief.

[@Syria_Free_Palestine_will_too]

@@davidlevi7537 No, all he said three things: Mecca is not "Qiblah" and I explained that it's impossible before 13 centuries to build a mosque with 100% Qiblah because of limits of Technology and it's not important to do Qiblah 100% correct, only Shatr is what you need to do (East, West, North and South) and he said that Beccah = Petra and that's wrong! Becca is an Arabic word made by roots: B - K - K and it means gathered place or place that everyone go to! we say Mecca boccat with people and it means Mecca is a gather of people, and that's correct, Mecca from the beginning of Islam and even before, was a religious sight that every Arab go for Hajj and that's why it named Oum Qura and that's why it's not appeared in maps of traders, because it's religious city not trade city so what point of existence a religious city whom traders and caravans don't pass trough? and Thirdly he say that Muhammad (as) lived in a city of plants and trees not desert, and that's dumb, The Quran itself tells that Mecca is a burden desert where Masjid Al-Haram built in! The Problem of Gibson, is that he don't know nothing, he just want to prove a dumb idea, all his historical research is done as Masjid-Haram built in a city full of fruits and that's wrong! EVERY MAN WHO HAVE MIND AND SMALL RELIGIOUS STUDIES WILL KNOW THAT MASJID-HARAM *BUILT IN A DESERT* go play with kids better than challenging me, if you want to debate with me, contact me in this e-mail: [e-mail]

[@davidlevi7537]

@@Syria_Free_Palestine_will_too wait pal, it is precise that Muhammad changed the qibla. And the qibla of masjid al haram was not precisely came when islam originated. It started after some times. So it's clear that he changed the qibla. So which was the first qibla, and why did he change it??

[@davidlevi7537]

@@Syria_Free_Palestine_will_too so we can see that the qibla was changed from one to another, why can't we conclude that masjid al haram was not the true qibla?? There was something before it right??

[@rolandrama1872]

If this is the story then this explains how powerful was Muhammed to make it the most important place in the world.

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

Whatever the actual story is, the only thing demonstrated by the creation of such a religion and place is how Satan is indeed the 'prince of this world'.

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

@Asad Ahmad I'd love to hear it. Have a read of this if you'd like: www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Abualrub/magic1.htm

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

​@Asad Ahmad It's fine with me if you don't want to read it. The things I had in mind are there, and laid out more clearly than I could, anyway. If you still deny God's greatest expression of love for us (the crucifixion) after reading the information on that site (which quote Muslim sources, btw) then it might be good to consider why you're reading the information, yet refusing to believe it. Fear? Who knows. Maybe it's just so much a part of your culture that it's too difficult to let go of if God hasn't opened your eyes. After all, it's made pretty clear in the Bible that we're born in sin as descendants of Adam, literally incapable of seeking God (i.e. we put our own desires above God, and are blind to His truth unless He wills otherwise), and we would be wholly condemned without God's grace. Christ's birth, crucifixion and resurrection allowed the possibility of imperfect beings like us to be reconciled to our Creator. No normal human prophet is capable of doing that, since human beings are incapable of living a sinless life. I'm no debater, I'm simply called to spread the Gospel as a follower of Christ. That Gospel is that God entered His own creation as Jesus, son of Mary. Fully man and fully God. He lived a sinless life, setting the perfect example of what it looks like when one lives a life perfectly pleasing to God. Being free of sin, his death and resurrection means that those who belong to Christ accept what God has done for them, and likewise will no longer be under the power of sin and death, which Christ broke through His resurrection. It's essentially summed up in one of the most well-known verses, John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." I'm aware that you have difficulty in accepting that because Islam teaches that you can't associate partners and such with Allah, but Christ was rejected once before by the Jews (who didn't exactly have a good record of always obeying God, even though He had chosen them...). It's no different now. Just like how, during the Exodus, Aaron built a golden calf and declared that this was the god that brought them out of Egypt (Exodus 32:4), so did Muhammad appear and coerce people into what they thought was worship of the true God. However, God has only made two covenants with human beings: the first, from the Old Testament, in which human beings are shown to consistently fall short of God's standard and which points to the future Messiah, and the second covenant, which is that established by Christ in the New Testament. He states that he is the fulfillment of the law. The whole idea behind Muhammad as the final prophet etc is essentially to set things straight regarding what God truly wants from us, but that contradicts what God has already revealed. There are claims by Muslims that the Bible was 'corrupted', yet the Qur'an is the one that has changed. All that's happening is that there has been one more instance of deception. Anyway, everything you could ever want to know about why the God of Abraham did not create Islam is on that site. Like I said, other people are much better at summing things up clearly etc, but I've done what is expected of me. I don't care if it's not directly from what I've said, but I truly pray that in time, you'll see the dire situation you're in, and come to accept the love of the true God and what Christ did as a evidence of this love.

[@searchtruthsincerity5581]

Good reflection

[@angryyoungman66]

No one denyes that islam successeded to spread its message , but having power does not mean rightfullness.

[@khipksy1888]

This documentary seems really fishy. Nitpicking random pieces and drawing your line. Haram and haraam are two different words in arabic. حرم and حرام notice the whole missing letter in the word. Haram (حرم) means sanctuary, not forbidden. This alone destroys the authenticity of your research, specially when you say you spent over 30 years in arabian region.

[@danielfisher7016]

Cope harder.

[@vaqasnaeem]

The person who says he has researched so much about islam says that myslim pray to black rock actually shows how little he knows about islam

[@slackerman9758]

He said “pray towards” and not “pray to”. Do they not pray facing Mecca?