The mysterious case of the drug-smuggling fishermen - BBC News

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8 жыл бұрын

In 2011, a group of men from the Isle of Wight were given a combined 104-year prison sentence for masterminding a £53m drug smuggling operation. Does new evidence suggest they were innocent? A new lawyer, Emily Bolton, is working on their case and believes that may be the case.
She founded the Innocence Project New Orleans in the US, which has so far freed 25 prisoners, and has recently set up a new charity in the UK - the Centre for Criminal Appeals - to specialise in miscarriage of justice investigations.
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@philip013
@philip013 6 жыл бұрын
So did they catch any fish?
@alienchaser636
@alienchaser636 5 жыл бұрын
It was huge.... but it gottaway
@nancyvazquez5048
@nancyvazquez5048 5 жыл бұрын
ALIEN CHASER that was a good one
@MrCol916
@MrCol916 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly....
@pamelaanderson6524
@pamelaanderson6524 3 жыл бұрын
fish scale
@smellyfinger684
@smellyfinger684 5 жыл бұрын
Pity the police weren't this diligent with Jimmy Saville, eh BBC?
@sbnqy
@sbnqy 5 жыл бұрын
They rarely investigate there own
@leeleelee0054
@leeleelee0054 4 жыл бұрын
Or Prince Andrew
@wendymcanena2421
@wendymcanena2421 4 жыл бұрын
Thats because they are freemason, and Jimmy Savile was a freemason.
@DavidSmith-yt7im
@DavidSmith-yt7im 4 жыл бұрын
Or any of the paedos that work for the bbc
@angelicupstart1977
@angelicupstart1977 4 жыл бұрын
Next time you need help call a hippy.
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 6 жыл бұрын
Only CIA and MI5 allowed to deal drugs.
@EmceeIntricacy
@EmceeIntricacy 6 жыл бұрын
John DeF haha you got it
@Abdulhamid-zi1xh
@Abdulhamid-zi1xh 5 жыл бұрын
Just like cia
@daniellovick2329
@daniellovick2329 5 жыл бұрын
So true 😆
@daniellovick2329
@daniellovick2329 5 жыл бұрын
The government CIA etc are the biggest gangsters in the country!
@bulletproofkam7931
@bulletproofkam7931 5 жыл бұрын
It’s Mi6 that’s more like the CIA, mi5 is like the fbi.
@dillanma
@dillanma 5 жыл бұрын
why didn't the cops wait until the drugs were picked up and catch smugglers red handed?Surely that's the whole point of surveillance
@Opalmizer
@Opalmizer 5 жыл бұрын
The cops only had a coracle for the chase.
@HciContractor
@HciContractor 5 жыл бұрын
Gale Sylvester I had to look that word up! Coracle.
@Opalmizer
@Opalmizer 5 жыл бұрын
@@HciContractor I hope there was a picture when you found the word and that you laughed heartily?
@frankday1234
@frankday1234 5 жыл бұрын
Because the austerity plan has started to have a negative effect on their Learned Worshipfulness's' budget. As pursuing the more successful miscreants, who can afford the services of competent council, is a long. expensive process, their Learned Worshipfulness's consider it uneconomical. It's all about priorities, and while Dollar remains Akbar, everything else is academic.
@Charlie1776_
@Charlie1776_ 5 жыл бұрын
I assume they were worried someone else would find it.
@daztaylor84live
@daztaylor84live 5 жыл бұрын
If I ever found packages floating in water I'd be diving straight in!! Without a second thought
@j.b.m4640
@j.b.m4640 5 жыл бұрын
You'd have to beat me ....well .. Let's just split it dogg
@yukimasaheppe1079
@yukimasaheppe1079 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t have to be drugs but just the mystery👍
@jasonmurphy6126
@jasonmurphy6126 5 жыл бұрын
Cocaine soup for everyone!!
@hedgehog1995
@hedgehog1995 5 жыл бұрын
me to, but if i found it was drugs i would burn the lot, and think how many children's life's would benefit.
@DubzCo
@DubzCo 5 жыл бұрын
Ilikemylandy and how many ravers nights you’ve messed up
@NorCalSaint
@NorCalSaint 5 жыл бұрын
How are you going to do a report like this & not tell us if they had any fish on board when they returned?? Seems like a key piece of data...
@dylanwicklund5129
@dylanwicklund5129 5 жыл бұрын
Are you dumb it takes a crew to run a ship like that
@omars5203
@omars5203 5 жыл бұрын
Come to papa
@irenedavo3768
@irenedavo3768 3 жыл бұрын
Hello
@donaldmacdonald2385
@donaldmacdonald2385 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@hurleycapetown8420
@hurleycapetown8420 2 жыл бұрын
Ye I also thought that when he left in his white van,was there any fish or lobster inside or had it been sold
@MrFeatheredSerpent
@MrFeatheredSerpent 8 жыл бұрын
Really fishy story.
@peaceLove1988
@peaceLove1988 7 жыл бұрын
DeanAdam The Illustrator Nice arse
@michaelumphlettee7054
@michaelumphlettee7054 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I love it
@KumaBean
@KumaBean 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Lord, I'll fetch your coat.
@karenevangelista3267
@karenevangelista3267 5 жыл бұрын
If only they HAD DOCKed with the drugs instead of leaving it all out at sea .
@KumaBean
@KumaBean 5 жыл бұрын
Karen Evangelista Ffs Karen 🤣
@Cypher791
@Cypher791 5 жыл бұрын
So they don’t actually know where the cocaine came from, the cargo ship was only a theory, and the fishermen were never in possession of the coke anyway...
@w3w3w3
@w3w3w3 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of stupid low IQ people do Jury service and convict people all the time when there is not enough evidence beyond "reasonable doubt". Sad really.
@Ed-kx7jl
@Ed-kx7jl 4 жыл бұрын
Yeh except this is in the Uk and we don’t acc have jury duty that’s American we have professional jurors who do it as a a job
@w3w3w3
@w3w3w3 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed-kx7jl What? We do have jury service in the Uk lol...
@veesmokez9847
@veesmokez9847 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed-kx7jl erm actually we have jury duty just like we have magistrates duty...
@garysinglewood6369
@garysinglewood6369 4 жыл бұрын
Google it there was a illegal immagrant on that fishing boat for the first time with a satellite phone he was there to make sure that the drop had been made and to pick up the coke
@matbroomfield
@matbroomfield 8 жыл бұрын
No idea if these men are guilty or innocent. Their behaviour DOES seem suspicious, but circumstantial evidence should NEVER be the sole basis for a conviction, let alone of this magnitude. But one indisputable fact DOES stand out, and that's the despicable practice of police doctoring statements retrospectively to strengthen their case. Police need to be reminded, in the strongest possible legal terms, that their duty is not to get convictions, but to ensure the safe, smooth running of society. Rewriting reality to "punish" those who have not yet been convicted of a crime is utterly unacceptable.
@mikemckelvey7144
@mikemckelvey7144 7 жыл бұрын
Best comment by far. Insufficient evidence.
@johnuk6924
@johnuk6924 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I don't like the Police or the CPS. They are only interested in getting a conviction and they twist statements and evidence to get you convicted whether you are innocent or not. If they were in possesion of the drugs then they are guilty but they were never found with any drugs so it should of been a not guilty case. The CPS prosecuter obviously persuaded the jury enough for them to find them guilty, poor blokes.
@grahamwillox
@grahamwillox 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever experienced a change in a police statement that favours the accused? I’d put money on this never having happened.
@radcow
@radcow 5 жыл бұрын
The police change statements most people would shocked what go's on
@jogrinz9355
@jogrinz9355 5 жыл бұрын
If they were guilty they would of just gone out and dropped it off and come back in straight away.
@RigidRecords69
@RigidRecords69 6 жыл бұрын
These guys stumbled on an intelligence agency's op
@markhigham6054
@markhigham6054 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed , they use ex SAS service men who work across the globe with all and every government agencies in each country and all rake in billions , that’s why it’s all illegal. The drugs were once available in many grocery stores until they realised just how much can be made if they made drugs Illegal and so they did just that .
@derekriddle5101
@derekriddle5101 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, and lives ruined because of it. Id be nice if these agencies would just be honest about it and let everyone go about their day.
@ludaheracles7201
@ludaheracles7201 5 жыл бұрын
@@IOMdriving 100%
@idiocracyisnowadocumentary8834
@idiocracyisnowadocumentary8834 4 жыл бұрын
You may be right , who knows , they also could be guilty, you're communications are logged , if you come under suspicion for anything, they will be listening in and watching, trouble is they can't use any of this information they gathered clandestinely, so they have to construct a case using legal means , which usually means very ambiguous evidence being used,
@karlfulton4854
@karlfulton4854 4 жыл бұрын
Roped into one... They took the nearest boat... could have been anyone.. Only Paedophiles are worse than this scum who desecrate what it means to enforce LAW and just as bad are the complicite Judiciary... what goes around comes around... Its why their lives always collapse around them. Lorx Jesus give these fishermen and their Loved ones Justice.
@damann2925
@damann2925 7 жыл бұрын
its sad after watching a few dozen of these doc you get less time for murder than theft or drugs
@pauldooley756
@pauldooley756 6 жыл бұрын
Da mann I agree yet the authorities look at the money earnt illegally you, get me. Also theese guys are fishermen right, don't think they would use that sinuous rope.
@900108Chale
@900108Chale 6 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@allennixon850
@allennixon850 6 жыл бұрын
Its because of money ...
@robinbreeds9217
@robinbreeds9217 6 жыл бұрын
the ecstasy rising documentary is interesting it shows how it was fine when the drug was free until people made millions from the drugs and then it was war kzbin.info/www/bejne/en_Td6SAmK-WptU
@ImranHussain-rk9rl
@ImranHussain-rk9rl 6 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but think how many lives are ruined due to drugs the families being destroyed due to misery of of the drug dealing whilst the scum bag drug dealers are living a lavish lifestyle through the misery of others , it should be death by hanging and they shouldn’t even be given their funeral rites
@peaceLove1988
@peaceLove1988 7 жыл бұрын
Fish and chips and a line of charlie
@AaronfromEngland1989
@AaronfromEngland1989 7 жыл бұрын
DARREN DAY 😂
@justinbrew483
@justinbrew483 6 жыл бұрын
DARREN DAY lol
@thepvporg
@thepvporg 6 жыл бұрын
What a cretinous remark. Lest see you stitched up with evidence made to fit a crime you never committed and yes, I do speak from experience of having Thames Police trying to fit me up. When to police want you for something that they really fancy you for, they will make the evidence fit.
@topcat2942
@topcat2942 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@pablohorney
@pablohorney 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 smack and crack!
@K20rotrex
@K20rotrex 6 жыл бұрын
His dad basically grassed him. His work dried up so he did a one off fishing trip for some cash 🤔🤔
@jonog520
@jonog520 6 жыл бұрын
Jamesep3 my thoughts too
@MrCrpayne79
@MrCrpayne79 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you're gonna go from construction to world class drug smuggler overnight?
@Shadowboxe
@Shadowboxe 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, yup, I caught that too.
@finnparrott8172
@finnparrott8172 5 жыл бұрын
Your a gorp saying when the brick laying drys up he jumps on the fishing till the bricky work comes back you stink of a silver spoon
@Kamofy
@Kamofy 5 жыл бұрын
JD_k20 exactly what I was thinking! Btw I've never heard the term "grassed" him. Is that a UK slang?
@karlfulton4854
@karlfulton4854 4 жыл бұрын
24 years.. YET SAVILLES MATES ARE STILL WALKING AROUND.
@johnnyguitar108
@johnnyguitar108 7 жыл бұрын
No cocaine soup, no case. Loll
@maddestmandem7448
@maddestmandem7448 2 жыл бұрын
She’s clearly in denial that her husband just wanted the 💰
@TheCatz007
@TheCatz007 10 ай бұрын
I agree 👍💯
@straightreject2947
@straightreject2947 8 жыл бұрын
Way to long a sentence. For supplying people with a product that they want. Failed war on drugs will only open up the market for others to fill.
@matbroomfield
@matbroomfield 8 жыл бұрын
I agree. A consensual activity, whose PERSECUTION has cost hundreds of thousands of lives.
@ladymusiclover
@ladymusiclover 8 жыл бұрын
I swear some murderers have got shorter sentences.
@George-lh8ol
@George-lh8ol 7 жыл бұрын
dave setchell sounds like bullshit
@George-lh8ol
@George-lh8ol 7 жыл бұрын
dave setchell I know that diamophine is available but only in very limited circumstances and there are only a few hundred people actually prescribed it. As per cocaine I've never heard of that. I'll research those clinics though.
@rewind12354
@rewind12354 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Loveridge exactly, supply and demand these men are business men really.
@TBrl8
@TBrl8 3 жыл бұрын
Why the f didn’t the police wait for someone to pick the bags up?
@mcfcguvnors
@mcfcguvnors 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the most unasked question but most relevant
@PsyHoS0ciaL
@PsyHoS0ciaL 7 жыл бұрын
how did they get convicted if there was virtually no evidence?
@yourmaid8385
@yourmaid8385 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Anderson what are you talking about, there's no evidence needed when your convicted in America. You can sit in jail for years before trials over. And if your innocent they will "be doing you a favor".
@BennysUnhinged
@BennysUnhinged 6 жыл бұрын
your maid exactly. Especially if you're genuinely innocent and want to fight it and not plead guilty or take a deal. Cases can last year's and you have to stay in jail. Pretty fucked system, most end up just pleading guilty or taking a deal cause that's the only way to get over with
@shonuff7538
@shonuff7538 6 жыл бұрын
GooglePlusIsShit Conspiracy needs little to no evidence. the charge in federal prison is referred to as ghost dope. pure allegations and bullshit can sustain a conspiracy charge.
@rodneyfosdick4380
@rodneyfosdick4380 6 жыл бұрын
GooglePlusIsShit in the us they say we are innocent until proven guilty but really your guilty until you prove your innocence!
@jordanbelfort6391
@jordanbelfort6391 6 жыл бұрын
Because people are bibbins. And believe everything the authorities tell them
@jonog520
@jonog520 6 жыл бұрын
3.59 she scratches her nose. It was her.
@CHRIS198490
@CHRIS198490 7 жыл бұрын
fuck me 24 years but for killing someone you only get 3 years
@boogiewookie77
@boogiewookie77 7 жыл бұрын
People serve less time for killing, ridiculous sentence. When are politicians going to acknowledge the war on drugs was lost a long time ago. A new approach is desperately needed.
@chrismartin4607
@chrismartin4607 5 жыл бұрын
A brilliant sentence. A good deterrent for any drug dealing scumbags who are happy to profit off other peoples harm and possibly death. Fuck off tosser
@smellyfinger684
@smellyfinger684 5 жыл бұрын
The U.S. And UK government are the biggest drug peddlers in the world. That's why one of the first things secured in Afghanistan were the poppy fields, opiate use has exploded since the invasion
@williammc3183
@williammc3183 5 жыл бұрын
it's not a War on Drugs. It is merely about controlling the supply. there are a lot of government agencies that are fueled by import of narcotics..no drugs, no jobs. Therefore they have to keep the supply lines open so they have a reason to exist
@khalilrazak6486
@khalilrazak6486 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrismartin4607 What deterrent, there are more drugs then ever before and much more stronger so it seems that the BULLSHIT war on drugs has failed Long ago.
@illumination101
@illumination101 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like theres a rat, somewhere
@Alex-kk8is
@Alex-kk8is 5 жыл бұрын
'it was just a one off fishing trip just to get some money' ONYA DAD
@artyfacts_one7215
@artyfacts_one7215 5 жыл бұрын
Government looking for scapegoats for their own crimes!
@artyfacts_one7215
@artyfacts_one7215 5 жыл бұрын
@1223 1223 When fake news media and the censorship is gone.. Leftist are praised for promoting violence against independent media, while conservatives are censored and shutdown for speaking the truth!
@jonog520
@jonog520 6 жыл бұрын
My opinion, is is very likely they did do it, to be convicted on this evidence alone is a bit much tho. To the member of the public who called the police. What a dope. I'd have grabbed it for myself 😂
@michealgill7582
@michealgill7582 5 жыл бұрын
flash flash with the yaoo
@jimmyj9609
@jimmyj9609 5 жыл бұрын
One of the parcel would have lasted ages!!!
@joeennis2571
@joeennis2571 5 жыл бұрын
why would they need to be tipped off , they said they saw them dropping them off if the cops were on the cliff in the first place
@irenedavo3768
@irenedavo3768 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@nocoiner3236
@nocoiner3236 5 жыл бұрын
Looool his dad said “a one off fishing trip to get some money” 🤣🤣
@ben_jamin160
@ben_jamin160 5 жыл бұрын
ive done it before. made 7 grand. NOT WORTH IT. i was shitting my self. i spent the money on bog roll.
@irenedavo3768
@irenedavo3768 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@reglard
@reglard 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't they have just switched their AIS transponder off and report main power failure if they were up to anything dodgy? No trace of drugs was found on the vessel.
@ps3shakes123
@ps3shakes123 6 жыл бұрын
Guilty or not those sentences are too long.
@azysheff
@azysheff 4 жыл бұрын
William Doubleu nah probably just normal thinking human
@davidneal576
@davidneal576 4 жыл бұрын
@William Doubleu ur mum's a crack dealer
@paulritchie5868
@paulritchie5868 4 жыл бұрын
Way to long..Wonder what time HRH Prince Andrew will get......
@chris425amp7
@chris425amp7 6 жыл бұрын
Isle of White😂
@jamalmula1633
@jamalmula1633 5 жыл бұрын
Isle of Black
@greatwhite7968
@greatwhite7968 5 жыл бұрын
Classic
@KumaBean
@KumaBean 5 жыл бұрын
Eel of Wigget
@leojosh200333
@leojosh200333 5 жыл бұрын
It's spelt wight
@fredgarvinMP
@fredgarvinMP 5 жыл бұрын
Isle of Lucy.
@Elmwood-ze3cr
@Elmwood-ze3cr 6 жыл бұрын
Why didnt they have the drugs picked up asap by someone in a smaller vessel that could of landed the drugs rather than let them stay in the water for any longer than need be ??? Why did it take a member of the public to report the bags floating when the police claim they actually seen them being thrown over board ??? It looks like a stitch up by the police to me ??
@irenedavo3768
@irenedavo3768 3 жыл бұрын
Elmwood 1965 strange
@OldFloatingSeaman
@OldFloatingSeaman 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the bags were floating as it was another local fishermen who found them. Perhaps he was the collector of the bags, but realised the Police were all over it. Who knows?
@GR-sg2lv
@GR-sg2lv 3 жыл бұрын
So when they arrived back into harbour, how long did it take to offload their catch ?
@radcow
@radcow 7 жыл бұрын
thr lawyer / barrister is real court room brawler
@AndrewAustin888
@AndrewAustin888 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see footage of the drugs being destroyed, what happened to the drugs ? MI 5-6 bonus day..
@breakit46
@breakit46 7 жыл бұрын
24 years, serial killers get parole at 25 years, that is too severe.
@MrStacey1983
@MrStacey1983 6 жыл бұрын
breakit46 you could say they were serial killers too
@spudhead1161
@spudhead1161 6 жыл бұрын
just Saoirse how?
@spudhead1161
@spudhead1161 6 жыл бұрын
breakit46 no
@spudhead1161
@spudhead1161 6 жыл бұрын
breakit46 no they dont
@spudhead1161
@spudhead1161 6 жыл бұрын
Marten Dekker drugs can get you life imprisonment, but no one has ever been sentenced to life in the UK.
@simoncorbett3003
@simoncorbett3003 7 жыл бұрын
what a police balls up. I'd like to hear from the member of public who spotted the bouy. What a botch job and unfair imprisonment.
@irenedavo3768
@irenedavo3768 3 жыл бұрын
Simon Corbett hello
@irenedavo3768
@irenedavo3768 3 жыл бұрын
Who was it?
@OldFloatingSeaman
@OldFloatingSeaman 2 жыл бұрын
@@irenedavo3768 A local fishermen found them after getting tangled in his Lobster Pots.
@RichardSmith-eo5xw
@RichardSmith-eo5xw 5 жыл бұрын
They convicted them because they wanted to No other reason
@Its_Me_see
@Its_Me_see 5 жыл бұрын
only the elite get a customs pass to import drugs. anyone tryna jump on their hussle gets spanked out the game init
@DavidSmith-yt7im
@DavidSmith-yt7im 4 жыл бұрын
Init bruv
@thehomelessbarber5584
@thehomelessbarber5584 4 жыл бұрын
Inni
@z.x.c.l.s.b.n3531
@z.x.c.l.s.b.n3531 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidSmith-yt7im you no what I mean init .
@harrickvharrick3957
@harrickvharrick3957 5 жыл бұрын
So they were convicted without any evidence!
5 жыл бұрын
Thats the thing about a witch hunt. You always find a witch no matter where you look.
@edrooney9580
@edrooney9580 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows who brings in the big shipments
@angelicupstart1977
@angelicupstart1977 4 жыл бұрын
The voices in your head 🤔
@cmcauley26
@cmcauley26 4 жыл бұрын
.......Big Ships 🤔
@headmondronary2127
@headmondronary2127 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone but me... Who?
@polynikes9
@polynikes9 5 жыл бұрын
They're guilty as.
@timgoogle1658
@timgoogle1658 5 жыл бұрын
This is outrageous that you can be convicted on a possibility or assumption based that your boat was in the area when the drugs were in the water. Here is another assumption..The freighter saw the fishing boat coming on them and the crew got nervous thinking it was the police,they tossed the cocaine overboard. The fishing boat continued on its way while the drugs drifted in the water until found...possible ? yes
@tonyjones7372
@tonyjones7372 3 жыл бұрын
"he had no reason to do it, he had a job" ........right then, he must be innocent!
@thecommodoresmissingfuelca1603
@thecommodoresmissingfuelca1603 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel is the real MVP. He was offered his freedom to rat on his bro and instead chose to serve 18 years in prison, top bloke when he gets out I’ll have a beer waiting for him!
@kernow24
@kernow24 5 жыл бұрын
Because they already landed and sold their share of the coke....
@littletraveller5428
@littletraveller5428 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he could take up the offer he had nothing to give. For immunity, most people would have given it up.
@paulreed480
@paulreed480 3 жыл бұрын
Way it should be take the risk make the money, do the crime, do the time
@NB-91
@NB-91 5 жыл бұрын
Guilty! To go on a fishing trip then to get back to dock and just leave straight away, surely the fish would need processing and taking of the boat?
@Alec-ph8kh
@Alec-ph8kh 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@OldFloatingSeaman
@OldFloatingSeaman 2 жыл бұрын
Lobsters and Crab fisherman. Pots come up, you empty them, re-bait them and off you go. No gutting etc to be done.
@TrueCrimeReport
@TrueCrimeReport 5 жыл бұрын
How did the police know to arrested them before they found any drugs
@gmoney5947
@gmoney5947 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure how you can throw men in jail when there was no evidence other than eyewitness accounts.
@marknaughton3760
@marknaughton3760 6 жыл бұрын
Why did the fishing boat go all the way out into deep water, they never fished in this location , they only fished closer to the shore.
@brubeck1
@brubeck1 5 жыл бұрын
if you leave drugs dropped off to be collected later , prob gonna go wrong. if they had just taken it straight home ?
@torrace12
@torrace12 5 жыл бұрын
Justice departments must always treat people fairly. the price for not doing it is too high
@vladputin3664
@vladputin3664 4 жыл бұрын
I have heard that natives of the Isle of Wight have six toes on each foot.
@sammarchant454
@sammarchant454 5 жыл бұрын
Sue Beere defo had a few bags in her time 😂😂
@dirtyhotwaterbottle
@dirtyhotwaterbottle 7 жыл бұрын
3 up all the fisherman from prison
@mrtwollock9392
@mrtwollock9392 7 жыл бұрын
tell em smithy
@livinbytheocean2032
@livinbytheocean2032 5 жыл бұрын
Is there any follow up on this case?
@frankday1234
@frankday1234 5 жыл бұрын
"Operation Disorient" very apt. Those chaps on the operation certainly went off half-cocked. The functionaries and Dignitaries of the Justice Ministry seem to have been led astray too.
@MrCrpayne79
@MrCrpayne79 5 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why the fishing boat would be tossing g drugs off their boat instead of picking them up
@midnightrider4066
@midnightrider4066 7 жыл бұрын
funny how the rope looks about 100m lol,isn't that the distance the boats stayed apart
@novaturbkkk
@novaturbkkk 4 жыл бұрын
all the best lads hope you all get out soon
@DPK12
@DPK12 4 жыл бұрын
Any updates?
@msquared6695
@msquared6695 7 жыл бұрын
defo guilty it all just fits too nicely
@t3rryfi3d60
@t3rryfi3d60 4 жыл бұрын
This is a case of someone having to be punished, and people on the island (Isle of Wight) have a little bit grudge against Jamie Green so a person has give information saying they could see Jamie's boat 2mile of the back chucking bags over the side of the boat... I actually no myself that Jamie's crab pots were no where near this area and to be able to say you can see the difference between black pots and black bags being pushed over the side of the boat is no real possible. Also I no myself that Jamie is the last person who is going to be near anyone or anything drug related, I have worked with Jamie and lived with him and from my time I can say he was the last person who would be involved with this, Jamie had only bought a new boat for his fishing business, so how would he manage to pay for 50mill for this.... I generally don't think its possible to see the pots from that far away and I am saying this because I have been on both the cliff top on the island and also fished at the back of the island. FREE THEM ALL!!!! R. I. P MRS GREEN Also Jamie's family does not deserve any of these problems. They are all the best of people 🙏
@1234phil12345
@1234phil12345 7 жыл бұрын
Just think this is but one example of thousands of operations that unfold every month... It's too difficult to track things out on the water.
@jasongarner5161
@jasongarner5161 5 жыл бұрын
Both vessels came far too close to each other to not be rendezvousing
@spacecase7566
@spacecase7566 5 жыл бұрын
“How do his kids wrap their heads around his sentence”.... they’ll get it by the time they’re 30.
@goutvols103
@goutvols103 5 жыл бұрын
At first I thought that the guys had a chance but then I heard that they have an US attorney. Game over. May your time pass quickly.
@Wild-Storm
@Wild-Storm 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds very fishy to get out of the boat and straight in the van forgetting to unload their fishing haul of the night if there was any.
@ChristianHirlemann
@ChristianHirlemann 4 жыл бұрын
The sound cutting in and out it too annoying. I'm going to have to bail. Shame I'm interested and want to hear what happened.
@charleslanier1992
@charleslanier1992 8 жыл бұрын
This is Fkd up man.
@fabiosunspot1112
@fabiosunspot1112 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize there was no evidence on the men's boat 🤔
@OldFloatingSeaman
@OldFloatingSeaman 2 жыл бұрын
With the bag’s leaking, you thought it would have been an easy thing to do.
@seeker7679
@seeker7679 5 жыл бұрын
Even if these men are guilty twentyfour years is a ridiculous sentence. You can kill someone and be out in a few years. Crazy priorities.
@Leon-xv1nh
@Leon-xv1nh 5 жыл бұрын
Might have done it but the police changing the written record after they found the evidence means case has to be thrown out
@ajdahun
@ajdahun 7 жыл бұрын
vessels cross vessels tracks all the time for no particular reason
@punksince1972
@punksince1972 5 жыл бұрын
So much denial in the family interviews lol.
@jamesp4521
@jamesp4521 6 жыл бұрын
How could you imprison people for a third of their lives over THIS EVIDENCE?!? This is so fucked up on so many levels
@risingroads
@risingroads 5 жыл бұрын
Why did they need it to be reported by a member of the public if the police were watching them dump the bags?
@beauyork7225
@beauyork7225 5 жыл бұрын
My step dad was a fisherman. He told me that his crew found 11 duct taped blocks of coke and h once. And it wasn't all that uncommon to find single blocks of various drugs. I'm not doubting they are innocent.
@debbie1060
@debbie1060 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@OldFloatingSeaman
@OldFloatingSeaman 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Living on the South Coast, numerous times Drugs have been washed up after being jettisoned from passing ships using the English Channel. Fact not Fiction
@bennyboy2079
@bennyboy2079 Жыл бұрын
​@@debbie1060???
@JamesTaylor-bn8qn
@JamesTaylor-bn8qn 5 жыл бұрын
"Just a one of fishing trip to get some money" says the father of the convicted.
@aminatakaba88
@aminatakaba88 5 жыл бұрын
Wish Britain would be this zealous in prosecuting child sexual abuse
@StepOneSurvival
@StepOneSurvival 5 жыл бұрын
Just crazy
@tommygunzz101price7
@tommygunzz101price7 7 жыл бұрын
the british goverment going to be high for years.
@cjr4666
@cjr4666 5 жыл бұрын
They HAVE been high for years
@jaysonprice459
@jaysonprice459 4 жыл бұрын
@@cjr4666 lol
@colmturtle
@colmturtle 6 жыл бұрын
a lot of comments referring to the length of sentence but it was a half a tonne of pure coke that hadn't even been cut down yet i could understand folks complaining if it was only few grams or ounces .
@LifeInStone
@LifeInStone 4 жыл бұрын
Miscarriages if justice are so common it’s frightening. Everyone should be aware of how a police person who believes first, will fit the evidence to prove anything. It’s scary simple to have wrong convictions of innocent people. Horrible for those families. I hope they get justice from crazy
@iconicautoclassicvehiclesp6099
@iconicautoclassicvehiclesp6099 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if these guys got to appeal and if so what was the outcome?
@OldFloatingSeaman
@OldFloatingSeaman 2 жыл бұрын
They lost their appeal even though the Judges admitted most of the evidence was circumstantial and the so called expert witnesses were ripped to bits.
@rrr5587
@rrr5587 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine finding that and reporting it that's the real crime.
@rainmayhem7043
@rainmayhem7043 6 жыл бұрын
this case would have never held up in a US court. and our system in the United States is crooked but not even thus bs would fly
@jrjohnryanjr
@jrjohnryanjr 4 жыл бұрын
Mackerel fishing ?
@bootlegger1974
@bootlegger1974 6 жыл бұрын
just decided to do some mackeral fishing,something dont add up but shocked they nailed a conviction of that magnitude with so little evidence-fingers crossed they can appeal
@normanjones3535
@normanjones3535 6 жыл бұрын
fooling no one there guilty
@StormCentre88
@StormCentre88 6 жыл бұрын
From my understanding of this (assuming none of the fisherman were found in possession) they were convicted entirely on circumstantial evidence; itself containing several defects. Even if they were in that area for a purpose related to the drugs, it's hard to see how there was enough evidence to convict them all..
@khanimran1238
@khanimran1238 5 жыл бұрын
Harsh sentences they were made examples of dam very harsh
@coolinism
@coolinism 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgraceful, no concrete evidence and they get sentences like that, gobsmacked
@jknewb6276
@jknewb6276 6 жыл бұрын
lol she acts like she didn't know
@sizex1966
@sizex1966 5 жыл бұрын
SU1 16 is moving westbound, throwing 6-7 items overboard at intervals! (18.42 hrs) the next day "totalling 10-12... The size of a holdall. They were tied together in a line... The last item was a red floating buoy." the police r allowed 2 change their official log? well! hello hello hello what have we here then! What the police oath... BBC b carefull
@indiana146
@indiana146 5 жыл бұрын
What is the state up to now
@chefkenburnem211
@chefkenburnem211 5 жыл бұрын
That is alot of gear for some random fishermen, that I assume have no previous investigation on, to get pinched for. Its a shame how much time they were hit with.
@johnbrooks3832
@johnbrooks3832 6 жыл бұрын
Once again a police fit up.It seems that these guys were in the wrong place at the wrong time.No matter what the police and customs were going to get a conviction
@900108Chale
@900108Chale 6 жыл бұрын
In a small town South of Cancun Mexico, locals when needing money go out for a "stroll" on the beach. Sometimes they find sealed bags full of powder on the beach or floating in the water. They pick them up and deliver to the local cartel. They get their needed cash and the cartel recovers what goes missing during the delivers...
@TimeWarp-pj4kz
@TimeWarp-pj4kz 5 жыл бұрын
Freddy Chale Many years ago it wasn't uncommon to find bails of marijuana floating in the ocean here in mid coast Maine. Usually some teenager became a dealer for the summer we always called it "sea weed" lol. Once my brother and myself were walking on an island in our county and found several kilos of pot sticking out of the mud at low tide. That wasn't bad. But never found any coke. We were always hoping to though
@KumaBean
@KumaBean 5 жыл бұрын
I live in the British Channel Islands, and used to fish frequently. For bait, I used to walk right out at high tide behind a medieval castle looking for bait, and every time I was clambering over those rocks I'd always be keeping a sharp eye out for a 'blue barrel'. I've heard stories of them being dumped in the sea full of hash. Some years back, bars of hash were found on the north coast, the theory was a younger dude on a jetski was trying a run from France and it went tits-up. It must have felt like a good day when you guys found that, living the dream man, living the dream 👌
@sammuddel7751
@sammuddel7751 6 жыл бұрын
I don't get why they didn't mention anything about tracing the bags. Surely youd be able to find out where they came from/who got them etc? Some sort of lead?
@bigjak7358
@bigjak7358 4 жыл бұрын
You dont need to be caught with any drugs on a Conspiracy. This is what many people don't understand.
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