The Mysterious Submarine that Almost Caused WW3

[@RetiredSailor60]

Good morning from Ft Worth TX to everyone watching...

[@WvlfDarkfire]

Afternoon from Virginia!

[@RetiredSailor60]

@@WvlfDarkfire was stationed in Norfolk/Virginia Beach area from 1989-2003.

[@parkerottoackley6325]

Good afternoon from Gainesville Texas

[@scottmccloud9029]

Same to ya. From Brenham.

[@RetiredSailor60]

@@parkerottoackley6325 Pass through Gainesville on our way to Winstar.

[@vondahe]

Hearing the NK angry replies to being caught with their pants down brings back memories of Monty Python.

[@kriskrook8362]

"But Sir, You have no arms"

[@tjroelsma]

It also eerily echoes the protestations of many politicians, judges and civil servants who get caught doing illegal things. It's almost like they want to say "look, this is normal behaviour for us, so it's a disgrace you're exposing us." To loosely quote Jon Stewart: "What has happened to this country, when you can't commit white collar crimes anymore without being caught and held accountable."

[@FozzyZ28]

How you can relate this to Monty Python is beyond me???? I'm guessing that you're an American?! 🤷🤦

[@hobobobeatsturtles8458]

​@@FozzyZ28 Lighten up

[@STORMRIDER_OIF_06-07]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE all of your content. Very VERY Reminiscent to the History Channel of the Distant Past! 👏👏👏 Keep up the Great work.

[@drmarkintexas-400]

Thank you for sharing 🏆🏆🙏🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@martynjames5963]

I was in Korea throughout the 90's. There were several fascinating incidents.

[@davhot4107]

Man the 90's and early 2000's were like the "Rennisance era" of the modern world; The best of the old world hanging around the best of the new world.

[@MrSirwolf2001]

I got there the first time in 88 right before the Olympics and again in 94. The North has been sending covert subs south for decades. Being in Army Aviation MI and the QRF team (both times) I experienced several incidents and incursions.

[@jamesrecknor6752]

@@MrSirwolf2001 Suddenly, my missions as mall security seem less exciting.

[@GeneralBlorp]

North Korea trying to do anything sneaky usually involves 20lbs brick tap shoes and a pound of tnt 😂

[@denniscurtis3885]

I was in Pohang in 97. As part of the investigation into the sub that ran aground in 96 we found cans of food. On the cans in English was “donated to the people of North Korea by the Moran church, Salt Lake City, Utah”. They are Human and we need to remember “There is only one Korea, it just has two Governments”.

[@michaeldrummond7590]

I was in Camp Casey and our ROK liaison told us what happened. The infiltrators led the South Korean army on a merry chase. They lost a bunch of soldiers to the NK commandos before they were all finally killed or captured.

[@john_smithchiropractor3931]

Sure😅

[@mahbriggs]

Which points out the uselessness of sending aide to North Korea or attempting to B egotistical peace of them! You can't negotiate with evil!

[@deadbird3025]

I found a morale patch there that said “if you haven’t been to Pohang, STFU”.

[@bold810]

I prefer "HoeTang", myself. 🎉

[@henriyoung3895]

God bless America and Ukraine and Poland. Stay strong

[@jamesrecknor6752]

Yes, yes, and yes!

[@larryjohnson1966]

I had no idea North Korea was working that hard to get into South Korea. Thank You for the History lesson

[@jackmountain8503]

Served on the DMZ and we would every now and then catch infiltrators or find their attempts to get though the many many fences and defenses, before my time some made it to the Presidents grounds before being killed. The majority of spys would sneak in though china's contacts or by sea. Believe it or not my first time getting shot at before Iraq was when we spotted a north Korean team messing around in the actual DMZ. Just a few random rounds but was a wake up call.

[@solandri69]

Funny story about one of the NK spies who was caught while I was there (I think in the late '80s). During the interrogation, she kept spouting NK propaganda and refused to answer any questions. The interrogator eventually got fed up, took her outside, waved down a public taxi, handcuffed her inside, and told the driver to take her anywhere she wanted to go in the city for about an hour, then bring her back. Being able to travel around without escort and see Seoul with her own eyes was what convinced her that everything she had been taught about people's lives in SK had been lies. And she sang like a canary when she got back. There was an interview with her on KZbin about 10 years back on one of the Korean channels.

[@larryjohnson1966]

@@solandri69 Thank You for that bit of history. Yes, the truth will set you free.

[@MrSirwolf2001]

@@solandri69 Having been in a S Korean taxi in Seoul, I thought that you were going a whole other place with the story...lol

[@jamesrecknor6752]

@@solandri69 After the taxi tour she no longer had Party approved Correct Speech and Allowed Thinking. There is hope for China, Cuba, California.

[@oneshotme]

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

[@jimmungai1938]

You can never ever I don’t think not in my lifetime get a reasonable response from the Commies from North Korea. This is one of your best episodes, dark docs.

[@jedironin380]

That's because they're trained by the Chinese Gov't.

[@razbit]

as long as the "hermit king" is still alive there will be no progress in "the Korea's"

[@archjen]

Hermit King and his sister…

[@bobwilson2860]

Dude, you have a knack for storytelling and a great voice for narration. Keep up the great work. I love your content!

[@samhklm]

Dark Seas - I know you create the video for these incidents from unrelated clips and they do help tell the story. But at 3:35 I do question the snippet of the Trophy fishing boat with a dad and kids being stopped by Fish and Wildlife. This appears to be Florida and has no place in this video.

[@jimbarth9859]

Thank you Five Minutes of Nature. I enjoy the Dark documentaries. Inspite of the endless mispronunciations, bizarrely worded turns of phrase, strange or absent continuity, and clips like a Caucasian pilot in the cockpit of a plane attacking a British battleship on the 10th of December, 1941 off the coast of Muh-lī-uh (🤣 Malaya). You have the heart of a teacher, 5 minutes. I on the other hand occasionally harass the producer of these wonderful documentaries by suggesting that he find an editor over the age of 50 who has a passing familiarity with American. English. I'd do it as a volunteer when I'm not chasing kids off my lawn. 😏 However, he's got plenty of likes and subscribers. And I myself press play just about every time they pop up in my feed. Kids today! I swear 🤬! ❤️

[@xwhogafx815]

The amount of random B roll is ridiculous. Soo dumb

[@renardfranse]

Never feed your enemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@marvwatkins7029]

Such crafty criminals.

[@damienruzco]

What manner of creature did that diver see to give him a heart attack tho…

[@jedironin380]

SpongeBob!

[@shanehungerford1165]

Still didn’t really explain how it almost started WWIII, there were only a few countries involved

[@MARTINRIGGSS]

How else is OP gonna get people to click?

[@codymcguinness1464]

USA protects South Korea if North Korea attacked the south then we would defend them and if someone attacked usa for defending the south then all of usa allies would jump in to that's how

[@barrysrcdump3557]

Because it was another proxy war. America supported the south, USSR the north. It was either peace or an arms race.

[@nigelft]

Depending on the level of tensions, it doesn't take much to set off WWIII ... A spy sub, on orders from Pyongyang, is sent into South Korean waters. Seoul takes this as a direct threat, and it sends a Frigate just out side of North Korean waters. What peace there is, is due to the repatriation of the remains of those whom died on the North Korean vessel ... although South Korea keeps that, despite protests from Pyongyang ... Kim Jong-un, now pissed off at the fact that South Korea has 'stolen his ship', makes two orders: one, that a submarine is put to sea to monitor what the South Korea ship is up to. But the other is to test launch it's longest, and heaviest, TEL (Transporter, Erector, Launcher) missile; whether due to a navigation error, or deliberately, the missile flies directly over the South Korean vessel, and splashes down, this time, much closer to the northern large island of Japan. Alarmed by that, both South Korea, and Japan each, via it Ambassador, asks America for assistance. The President be it Democrat, or Republican, sends a carrier fleet into the South China Sea. Quietly, Australia is involved, too, as their analysis estimates that such a missile would easy hit parts of Northen Australia; it notes that its splashdown near the costal waters of the Japanese archipelago was deliberate ... normally the aim point is much further out, but now with Japan taking on a more offensive approach, rather than its 'Self-defence' rôle, it is considered to be more hostile. At the same time, Beijing is pissed off, that a Carrier group is parked 'close to' what they consider as 'their' islands. Meanwhile, Russia is still bleeding from the continued offensive in Ukraine. Suddenly, almost the entire of South-East Asia is approaching sub-critical mass. To make matters worse, a navigstion error, plus an engineering one in the second test of the same missile, causes the rocket motor of either the second, or third, stage to explode, resulting in large fragments to land on outlying, but inhabited, islands of Japan. Speculation is rife about whether, in an act of self-sabotage, the North Korean Army made it so that particular stage to explode, causing the debris to crash as near to the coast as possible, but due to 1:12 a miscalculation ... Incensed, the Japanese Parliament demands the Prime Minister to.take action. So, for the first time since WWII, Japanese Naval vessels, leave territorial waters, and enters the South China Sea. Quietly. Royal Navy ships also enters the fray, due to upcoming Pacific exercises, inclusive of one nuclear powered, fast attack, submarine (SSN). Meanwhile there's another border clash between China and India, resulting in not just WIA, but KIA, of at least a dozen, each, on both sides. Things get heated between Bejing and New Delhi. All that escalation means it will only take a small spark to set the whole thing off ... ... which could be the detection of another North Korean spy submarine. But rather being caught in a fishing net, it is sunk. No-one takes responsibility for that action, but suspicions are based on relations between Bejing and Pyongyang, which have had been bad, has gone from tense, to chilly, and now is in the freezer. But that is not the main problem. Pyongyang is still pretty upset that its submarine was sunk, for which they.blame the Americans ... Another day, another missile test, except this time it's accompanied by a underground nuclear test. The ground wave produced is enough to cause minor structural damage in Seoul. Analysis is clear: North Korea is now a nuclear power. Granted, only atomic in nature, not thermonuclear. But the political 'ground wave' is global. The IAEA, alarmed by this development, warns North Korea that its continuing development of nuclear weapons is completely unacceptable, and not without consequences. Another USN Carrier group arrives, backed by a Royal Navy carrier. By all accounts, the North Korean Navy - or, to be more accurately, the Korean People's Army Navy Force - is a 'Brown Water' Navy, incapable of going beyond costal water, and major rivers. The confusing name comes from the fact it acts as a branch of the Korean People's Army, and, hence, is not its own service. But, from what I have read, it does have a not insignificant anti-ship mine laying capability, and capacity. With so many ships in the area, from the Americans, South Korea, Japan, and the UK, with possible some from Australia, in this scenario, it would be all too easy, in such a target rich environment, for North Korean to set a few mines adrift ... If any Navy vessel of those four, possibly five, nations where sunk because of those mines, that is likely to be seen as an Act of War. From there, it would be impossible to say, precisely, with rigour, in the scientific sense, what will happen next, if the above scenario plays out ... But, having studied particularly how Britian achieved being a thermonuclear power, and above all, why, is inbeded what would it take for the Prime Minister to order the use of our deterrence, which in many ways mirrors the American Presidential Order of Execution - or something very similar to that - which would cause the missile combat crews to turn their keys; the Air Force Bomber force to take off (notably the ALCM equipped B-52s) and the USN's SSBNs, to rise up to missile launch depth, and their Tridents to be launched. In the beginning it would be a war of words, but it is evident, especially the number of South Koreans, and Japanese, that Pyongyang has admitted to kidnapping, that clandestine operations, mostly by submarine, has been undertaken for the last several decades, possibly since the 1970's, or even the 60's. That in of itself wouldn't cause an escalation, but if North Korea ups its missile testing, especially increases in range, and size of payload capacity, and especially the test launches over Japan may cause a multilateral Navy presence in the South China Sea. Whether it is either China, or North Korea that takes the most offence, is a coin toss ... But certainly if North Korea does produce a underground nuclear test, that is far above anything they have tested before, will certainly cause serious consternation, and may itself cause the same level of Naval presence. From there, from sinking one of their spy subs, or a ship being hit by a mine, the result may well be a repeat of the Korean War: escalation of force, where, like chess, every move is met with a counter move, with increasing tempo. Once tactical nuclear weapons, in theatre, happens, beyond that, is the point of no return: full thermonuclear exchange, with no real way of 'switching it off' ... Such is the complete bonkers that is the Korean War, which, the best that could've be agreed upon is a ceasefire - which technically meas the two Koreans are still is a state of war with each other ... If you want an idea of how tense the border between them is, look up what happened when someone on the South Korean side, tried to chop down a tree with an axe ... ... in otherwords, the biggest threat to the nuclear entente cordial isn't Iran ... but North Korea, whom isn't above offending its few remaining friends, especially China. Given that Kim Jong-un rules not just by succession, but also authoritarian dictate, concerned only really with the survival of his family, and those with unwavering loyalty, it is a regional trip wire, of self preservation, that, through a strong enough tug, may be enough to set off WWIII ...

[@solandri69]

@@barrysrcdump3557 1997 was 6+ years after the USSR ceased to exist. The reformer Boris Yeltsin was president of Russia until 1999. The likely motivation for all the North Korean activity around that time was the end of Soviet financial aid which had helped prop up the NK government for 5 decades. And technically, the Korean War was a UN peace action authorized by the UN security council, not just the U.S. The USSR just happened to be boycotting the UN when they passed the resolution authorizing military force in Korea, and China's seat was held by Taiwan at the time. So it was the UN supporting the South, and the USSR and later China supporting the North. Troops from all the major UN countries fought for South Korea.

[@USSRBot]

I was at Top Site in 98-99 and I got a briefing about it. 293rd Signal Company

[@jeffblacky]

I can tell you about a certain Private First Class that fired shots over the wall at check point Charle in West Berlin - before he was tackled by two other soldiers he fired 10 shots at East German border guards

[@billotto602]

You ?

[@billy56081]

?

[@cranberrysmoothie1]

Sounds like a real jerk.

[@foxxy46213]

​@@billotto602 no me

[@JohnDoe-on6ru]

@damafia29 dude stop trying to start ww3 not cool

[@donQpublic]

“Relative Proximity” is not a unit of measurement.

[@kerrygibbs8198]

What is worse? Starving to death in North Korea or having to ride on a North Korean sub??

[@denniswhite166]

At least you get a bag of cookies on the subs.😆

[@jamesrecknor6752]

@@denniswhite166 A glorious, revolutionary, Strong Red Victory bag of cookies!

[@kaungkhantaye6318]

You guys know what I once read a book in Rangoon prison called Act of War which is about American intelligence ship being captured by North Korea and fate of its crews...I forgot the writer but it's nice one based on true story...

[@7thsealord888]

The USS Pueblo.

[@theelectricgamer9889]

Please do a video about Laffey (Benson class destroyer DD-459)

[@robertglasgow6538]

No dd878 would be better... Jk do both!

[@markgarin6355]

Never waste time feeding your enemy.

[@rupertdabear3148]

Thumbnail looking like that Megaladon had a bite out of it!

[@KingZE-V88]

Thats interesting 💫

[@auro1986]

you mean your small submarines are better than their small submarines

[@simon-oy6um]

I feel sorry for the people of NK brainwashed and hungry 😢

[@hades0572]

You're brainwashed too, literally no different.

[@SB-qm5wg]

It wasn't us...

[@edwhatshisname3562]

This would be hilarious, if it wasn't so sad.

[@jeremywells9019]

How exactly did they "decide" to go down or "take their own lives" when they were fleeing and were fired upon?

[@twitterpaited]

Running, refusing to surrender, opening fire on their pursuers after multiple warning shots, and when threatened with boarding, deciding to become a suicide bomber via grenade makes it fairly clear that they were planning to die rather than be captured. They are foreign armed forces on a covert mission in sovereign waters. Legally, their pursuers could have destroyed the vessel immediately on discovery instead of trying to capture it and prevent loss of life. Instead, the vessel runs and remains hostile until the end.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

@@twitterpaited Yup....They directly opened fire on a Pohang Class Corvette with small arms fire, not something you would do if you wanted to live especially considering how outgunned they were as the Pohang is very gun heavy with Twin Compact Bofors L70's and a 76mm Compact

[@justindunlap1235]

The crew of that craft forfeited their lives the moment they entered south Korean waters. The thing about espionage operations like this is that death is a definite possibility, and is preferred to being captured. I wouldn't be surprised if they were given suicide pills.

[@robertphillips6296]

Peace is not on somes Agenda?

[@GameplayTubeYT]

North Korea still can't move on, the failure of thier invasion against south during Korean War 😂😂😂

[@davidrivero7943]

Never underestimate Evil ie, comunismo .

[@JohnDoe-on6ru]

Someone should tell North Korea that anti radar coating doesn't work against eyes

[@WvlfDarkfire]

I think most South Koreans feel negatively towards the North now. Perhaps even seeing them as "less human". But i would beg you to see it like this. They have been made less human, if we treat them as children who need the basics of life and talk to them, then we may change their minds. As for the leaders of the North however...a KingSlayer comes for those who would enslave another...Un has little time left...

[@ostrich67]

Every Kim has been replaced with one that was even worse.

[@cletusvandamme6262]

Dark Seas, would you please depict only RELEVANT video footage when reporting on North and South Korean conflicts? The footage of American and other foreign submarines, and U.S. warships, as well as a Trophy fishing boat tend to push the boundaries of credibility. I enjoy your videos but this problem seems to be getting worse. Please be open to this constructive criticism. Thank you.

[@Djinnthehuman]

At this point I just assume the titles are all lies 😂

[@AWCY]

At this point the south is just gona tell the north FAAFO

[@oceanhome2023]

Who are the Idiots who decided that it was OK To place their entire Capital city within Artillery range of North Korea ???!!

[@불루재이]

Seoul has been the symbolic capital for Koreans since ancient times...

[@marvwatkins7029]

The "Sunshine Policy" sunk years ago.

[@trailingrails9953]

Sad that so many go to their deaths for the ego and paranoia of a mental dictator, to defend against an invisible enemy who exists only in the mind of that man.

[@notyouraveragegoldenpotato]

NK 'special forces'😂 definitely special. Just not like they wanted. God bless em😂😂😂

[@raymondclark1785]

They get to ride to their short sub in the short bus.

[@dritzzdarkwood4727]

"This is nothing but a lie. A lie told by a servant of the imperialistic USA!" - *slams a submarine wreck on the table*

[@ronaldtreitner1460]

if your enemy pushes a wooden horse to your front gate it doesn't make him your friend, in soth korea just look underneath the dmz to see their true intentions.

[@earlshaner4441]

Nobody should be surprised

[@Mwahaha105]

The incident in the thumbnail is the 1996 Gangneung submarine infiltration incident.

[@1337fraggzb00N]

Without the red arrow in the thumbnail, I almost would not have seen the red arrow in the thumbnail.

[@kendisdai23]

One Jin Woo as opposed to two or three?

[@mjack1935]

one does not know, how many there are, but there are more than one for sure

[@Tomcatntbird]

I was a US Navy veteran of a years 97-05. This is just stupid.

[@roguespearsf]

It was NK SF who killed the crew and then the sailors

[@vondahe]

I would expect most were “helped” kill themselves. The prospect of reaching freedom with a short swim must have been tempting for the poor souls.

[@johnnyT428]

Watch 'the ghosts of Jeju'

[@TomPrickVixen]

Can we even call a vessel a "submarine" that while it can dive, but it can not move when submerged?

[@bold810]

I prefer "Friends with out benefits" because they are always more grateful that those privileged Mill's College scholarshippers. 🎉

[@donaldlong9259]

A bunch of unrelated videos with dialog??

[@particles343]

Why do people decide: "Yeah this 1 crazy asshole is fit to lead all of us. Our lives are worth nothing."

[@AceIndiana]

Simple. That one person controls the military, finances, everything. And the people don’t have the guns or food to fight back

[@nigelft]

​@@AceIndiana Indeed ... In the words of Terry Pratchett, to paraphrase, the following can be said: "Kim Il-sung, Father of the Nation of the People's Republic of North Korea, believed in one man, one vote: he was the man, and he had the vote. Moreover, he believed that should be passed down to whom he considered the most capable son (possibly changed to sideways, to the most capable sibling), and so on, in perpetuity." The people have little to no say, not even the Korean People's Army, even though North Korea operates on a 'Military First' doctrine, even they are starving. Chronic malnutrition means the minimum height requirement for men to serve in the Army is about, last I heard, 145cm. For those who don't speak metric, that's ~4'6" ... ... no wonder the suits that some of the junior officers wear, which they can't afford to be tailored to fit, looks like two sizes too big ...

[@particles343]

@@AceIndiana Yeah, but how do we humans let that happen throughout our entire history? The more sophisticated we get, the less we should rely on a psychopathic "alpha." In the IT world the alpha is the buggy, glued together wind-up toy before the beta test. After feedback, and tweaking then you get the final product.

[@anderty4088]

@@particles343 IT sphere of development does not apply to economics and politics. Computing is the cold truth of systematic logic, which can't be disputed by individuals. Humanity is not an individual, hence the number of factors of opinions and vast human experience is equal to the number of people on the planet. It's not that humanity allows things to happen. It's the natural course of humanity to let things happen, even the worst of them since that's how humanity functions. Though, there's hope, that the more intelligent each individual in humanity becomes, the more responsible and adult humanity becomes and fewer terrible things happen.

[@Poniculus3357]

Whiskey class submarine video pls

[@ryanjosephatienza1201]

They missed the chance to escape under NorKor dictatorship

[@jimmybritt9537]

They chose death rather than torture 🤔🇺🇸

[@raymondclark1785]

Or they were facing death up north if they failed

[@mountainholler290]

Just let them starve , everyone would be better off without them .

[@anderty4088]

It speaks colours of how low you treat yourself by putting no value on human life.

[@mountainholler290]

@@anderty4088 Colour me unimpressed with your rapier like wit .

[@kennedy6971]

Nk should never be trusted. Nk is a perfect place for #45 to live.

[@KonradvonHotzendorf]

They take him😂

[@suncityheat]

The woman @1:32 is she talking on a cell phone??

[@rwnagel]

Did they all commit suicide or did the NK agents kill the crew and then escape into S. Korea to wreak as much havoc as they could? I was there shortly after and I was told by the locals that it was the latter.

[@eykstein]

artificialy voiceover is one of the worst in the market

[@madmav24]

This incident did rate a blip on NATO or anybody else’s radar. The WWIII comment is more of your B.S. click bait as usual

[@jackmountain8503]

New to the tube? Just enjoy videos or move on

[@miketran4289]

Why do you use IR video of drug fast boats and U.S coast guard video of ship inspections?

[@paulbarthol8372]

See, Wall don't work

[@leslie-up7qs]

Mornin frum Laurel Montana

[@warrenhall7060]

YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER NOT USING BS TITLES TO GET VIEWS AND NO ONE LIKES FAKE THIUMBNAILS EITHER...GOOD CHANNEL ALL IN ALL EXCEPT FOR THE DECEPTION...

[@KitsuneAdorable]

AND USING ALL CAPS TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS IS MORNIC, AND WON'T GET THE CHANNEL OWNER TO CHANGE THE THUMBNAIL AND TITLE. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ON KZbin HAD A HISSY FIT.

[@SilveniumTheDrifter]

BUT CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!