The Mystery of Alberto Salazar

[@RunnerBoi]

Edit: I've had a couple people say they're having a hard time hearing 30:17. It seems to work fine with headphones listening back rn, but non-headphone users and others may have issues. Here's the (rough) transcription in case others are having trouble: "Do the people think if I cheat I don't get tested? I almost (went?) 6 months, or 5 weeks I'm running PB and world record in Monaco, amazing time in Eugene. You can test me every single day. *Every* single day. I believe in clean sport. I'm always clean. I will be clean. I believe in Oregon project also they work hard, just multi-talent(?) all the athletes. I believe Alberto had been... since I saw him Alberto, he work really hard and that is what I know."

[@nc8186]

They just arent used to accents 😭😭

[@TPJH850]

I started watching this on my TV and then switched to my phone after that part of the video and wondered why it sounded off 😂

[@sleepyjoe8908]

Stopped watching as soon as you started peddling that woke “women are innocent victims that I secretly want to grape” narrative. You are 100% vaxxed.

[@wvu05]

​@@nc8186 It just sounded like tape rewinding when I played it.

[@fishflake1209]

There is one specific incident that sticks out to me as the “dam starting to break” moment for Alberto Salazar; one that, since it isn’t directly related to the doping and abuse allegations around NOP, wasn’t touched on at all in this video. Gabriele Grunewald, who had only recently returned to competition after cancer treatment, finished first in the women’s 3000 meters at the 2014 U.S. indoor nationals. Shortly after the race, though, Grunewald was disqualified for contact between her and second-place finisher Jordan Hasay, an NOP athlete in her first championship meet as a professional. Judges failed to notice anything more than the usual jostling that comes with pack running on a tight track, and broadcast footage also didn’t reveal any foul worthy of Grunewald’s disqualification. Alberto Salazar simply bullied his way up the USATF hierarchy until he found someone willing to give the race to his new star - Nike’s new star - who was entitled to the hardware. The resulting outcry was so negative against the USATF, and Salazar in particular, that Grunewald was reinstated as the winner two days later. Alberto Salazar’s actions to rob Gabriele Grunewald of her rightful championship, simply because his athletes had to win at any cost, looks even more monstrous after Grunewald’s death in 2019 after her cancer returned. Prior to this incident, the attitude in the track community was essentially, “you can’t argue with the results;” after this, Salazar was no longer untouchable.

[@alexmorton6911]

Thats BS. I'm definitely not a Salazar fan but I remember the race at the time and there was definitely more than just "minor jostling"; it was pretty significant. There were a bunch of anti-Nike atheletes that protested after that and that's why it was reinstated, but there was definitely cause for the DQ. I have a feeling that the vast majority of the "thumbs up" on this baseless comment never even saw the race.

[@tundra77]

as a runner myself, I always knew about Salazar and his whole doping regime. However, this video goes into such a depth I never would have thought I could find in video format. So happy you make high quality content like this. Feels like it’s a televised documentary

[@bats1945]

Really appreciate the many hours you put into this channel, I imagine this one took quite a lot of work to put together. Your vids are so high quality and really entertaining, thank you.

[@kennethlandau5396]

Hours? Months

[@user-fp5co6qn7h]

I’ve literally been waiting for someone like this. I recently did a speech for my college communication class about the career of Alberto Salazar and I realized how little public information there is about him aside from his SA allegations and his running. He basically disappeared after all this. This video would have saved me so much research😭

[@AJT127]

Saw the length of the video and went "yeah I'm not watching that" then clicked on it anyway and ended up watching the entire thing. Nice vid lol

[@rumblerumble2276]

Same!

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

I used to run a lot on the Amazon sawdust trail in Eugene OR near 27th Ave and Amazon Parkway. A couple of times I saw Alberto running in my direction towards me and he was staring ahead of himself 10 yards at the ground. He appeared very focused. After he won his famous race, he opened a restaurant near 5th and Willamette which was a converted train car. He was then known as Alberto Salad Bar.

[@achillesshui6888]

best running channel on yt

[@blastedpotato]

Yo what’s good Achilles

[@achillesshui6888]

yo my boi from strava

[@grantkoehnen2114]

great job on the documentary. It’s crazy to see that all of those athletes that took his side aren’t competing at the same level anymore.

[@igloozoo3771]

Agreed, but Sifan Hassan is still running well.

[@wvu05]

Well, if they suddenly fell off (Engels some seem to be an exception) after being forced to cut ties with a coach suspending for doping, it definitely doesn't make anyone involved look any more innocent, does it?

[@igloozoo3771]

@@wvu05 Sad that Jordan Hasay hasn't been able to run well if I am not mistaken.

[@harveydean7952]

Mo Farrah's relationship with Salazar goes pretty much unscrutinised here in the UK. Farrah's form dropped massively when he parted ways with Salazar which I dont think is a coincidence.

[@martynhanson]

That's why in the UK they ignore AS as you then have to mention MF. What I do believe is if NOP had been Russian the IAAF would have gone after them big time with all guns blazing. I don't watch sport anymore as I think doping is rife. Don't forget Lance Armstrong used to boast he was the most tested man. I think the testing in a lot of these sports is sub standard.

[@squiglemcsquigle8414]

​@martynhanson in atheltics yeah there isnt nearly enough testing. Cycling at world tour level thats pretty damn clean these days. People are getting suspended even for non banned substances

[@trevorwillis1729]

Ya, because he stopped coaching him. Simple. Lol.

[@wvu05]

Really? I remember following the creator of Special 1 TV, and "Jose" went after it pretty hard.

[@beatenbytheclown]

I started following cycling in the late 90s and after a honeymoon period where I was very innocent to what was actually going on I started to realize that the entire sport was rife with doping. By the time Armstrong came along I knew enough not to fall for the yellow wristbands and media fawning. Around the time he announced he was coming out of retirement a keen cyclist friend and I were out with a mutual friend who didn’t follow the sport much. He asked us if we thought Lance used PEDs, my friend replied instantly ‘I have no proof but I’d stake my life on the fact that he doped’. Why am I talking about this here? Because I pretty much feel the same way about Farah. Not with as high a conviction as with Armstrong but nonetheless if I was forced to stake my life on whether Farah was clean when he was winning Olympic and World Championship medals, I’d say we wasn’t. One of the biggest red flags in sports is when an athlete shows sudden and large improvements in performance past the early years in their career. I remember when Michelle Smith won 3 golds and a bronze in 1996 in her late twenties having been a mid tier European level swimmer never mind Olympic champion prior, it immediately raised suspicions. Yet Farah went from being eliminated in the 5000m heats in 2008 at the age of 25 to 7th at the worlds a year later followed by World Champion in 2011. Not a single UK commentator or pundit raised an eyebrow. You have the likes of Cram and Foster not containing their disbelief when commentating on Ayana destroying the 10,000m world record at the Rio Olympics, and their excoriating of Dwain Chambers after he admitted to doping, yet they pretty much bowed in worship to Farah. The double standards and level of hypocrisy when it comes to the UK athletics media made me lose interest in the sport. Farah claimed not to have known a Kenyan coach who was found guilty of blood doping his athletes yet mentioned him in his autobiography years previously. Known association with coaches who have been found guilty of doping, another red flag for you. I know none of this is proof but it starts to look very much like all the issues that dogged Armstrong for years before he actually fessed up. Not that I think that will happen with Farah. He’ll keep quiet, keep his knighthood and continue to have is ass kissed by the likes of Steve Cram.

[@davidtydeman1434]

This is the most comprehensive documentary on this topic 👏

[@ivanterrible7362]

He was an incredible athlete and an uncredible human being. I am glad to be a mid-pack runner with integrity.

[@nro337]

Amazing work covering this one. What a ride to tell

[@brianbaker5757]

Death grips in the intro music? This video gonna be fire

[@gatomedia]

Excellent piece of journalism. Very well researched and put together! The best documentary on this topic I’ve seen. Keep up the great work.

[@Hammy1TV]

He was caught cheating as a coach for The Oregon Project and now I suspect he cheated when he was a runner too back in the 80s

[@trevorwillis1729]

false.

[@Formula1st]

@@trevorwillis1729Alberto, is that you?

[@alexmorton6911]

Convinced he cheated as a coach but not convinced he cheated as a runner. Honestly he only had about 3 good years as a pro, and no one can deny his will to win was greater than pretty much any runner ever.

[@grashoprsmith]

crazy good doc! I don't even follow track and field, but this was a great watch. THANKS!

[@Dillybean717]

Genuinely an amazing video and definitely one of my favorites and kept me engaged the whole time

[@merr___7579]

This channels content is mind blowing good.

[@marypagones6073]

A documentary I've been longing for dropping on Christmas! Your channel is one of the best, most informative channels on KZbin, full stop! You reference it in your video, but I would chime in to also check out the 2006 book Duel in the Sun, about Salazar's race with Dick Beardsley at the Boston Marathon. When he was read the last rites at the Falmouth Road race, his father (who kept a crapload of guns in the house and had anticommunist anti-Castro revolutionaries coming over at all house) actually used tongue depressors to make the sign of the cross. During the "duel" he only drank like 2 sips of water during the hot race, which some people think may have had a role in his mysterious fatigue and performance decline for years after. He even made a religious pilgrimage to get his running ability back. Even before all the drugging stuff in the video, he was just a batshit crazy character.

[@bentylecote9759]

you deserve a netflix documentary this was so well made

[@patricktflowers11317]

This is an incredible documentary, was a very enjoyable and interesting watch. Keep doing your thing bro!

[@abdeljadan553]

Kara Goucher’s book was surprisingly good. I recommend it if you haven’t read it.

[@videos-gl2qq]

imagine what more lucrative sports are doing w/ less testing? Futbol, Football, Basketball, Tennis, Baseball all of them. Seeing some star athletes go multiple generations w/ no drop off.

[@guppy719]

Baseball does some testing. But I doubt Lebron James would still be playing like he is if he wasn't massively doping.

[@nathanplant9893]

your videos are so well made bro. you're like the Jmxyhighroller (NBA videos) of the running world.

[@quackymacky]

This is is gonna be good

[@A.I_Adri]

already know this is gonna be good

[@billa8083]

Best vibes yet 🎉

[@kenhalal375]

I was at the UofO in 1980 and 1981 when Salazar was there doing some post graduate work and of course training. I was there when we won his first NYC marathon and I believe they gave him a new car (Volkswagon Rabbit?). I was a junior and was a walk-on to their cross country team in 1980. To this day I never understood why Eugene was the running mecca of the USA. The weather was deplorable and coach Dellinger was forever absent. 90% of our training was done in isolation. While I was never introduced to Alberto and I don't recall ever training with him I would quite often see him training on the roads all alone. At some point Carey Pinkowski arrived and Rudy Chapa was trying a comeback from an injury he suffered the prior year. During the track season of 1981 Salazar and Pinkowsi would do intervals sessions together. I couldn't help but wonder how they could turn sub 2 minute 800m intervals like it was nothing. A few times I saw Alberto running with strange headgear and a backpack. I will just say he was one strange dude to be around. He was clumsy and awkward. I was always wondering what separated them from the rest of us. Was it training, nutrition, genetics or did they have some secret they kept between themselves? I remember the blood doping from the '72 and '76 games suspected by Lasse Viren and just thought “Yeah, that must be the secret”. I felt so bad for Rudy Chapa though. He gained so much weight during his recovery from injury. It was good to just be able to hang with him on the interval sessions even though he was a former shadow of himself the year before. I don't believe TRT in itself is a huge performance enhancer for young male athletes. When used regularly your natural testosterone production will be reduced as your body trys to stay in homeostasis. Sure, maybe under heavy training loads and stress the natural T is reduced so maybe being on a regulated dose of TRT can smooth out those valleys. Recovery would definitely be improved. There are other ways to accomplish this more naturally with things like Enclomiphene/androxal. Obviously TRT would actually be more beneficial for women than men. The real advantage from PED's come in with the blood builders. Why sleep at altitude with the side effects when you can just take EPO and sleep in a normal bed at sea level? I've not read Kara Goucher's book and just maybe I'll add it to my list. I remember watching her compete, her pregnancy and a short bit about her after childbirth. I was more interested in her charisma and such than as an athlete. Her story of the massages just don't quite add up for me. Not to say that it could not have happened. First, I've never had a massage from my coaches. Especially one of the caliber of Alberto Salazar. This is what trained professional massage therapists are for. You are in the best and most expensive training program in the world where weekly massage by a professional masseuse aught to be the norm. If those sort of massages happened they were consensual. What athlete would not jump off the table horrified with what had just happened? And then to come back for more? I'm not quite buying those stories. But I do believe Kara was abused in other ways. I've done a bit of coaching in my life and it's fair enough to say female athletes are a breed of their own. You cannot treat them like the male athletes. It can be extremely challenging. But that's where perhaps sports psychologist are used? In summary, I agree with your assessment and summary of Alberto Salazar. Whenever there is huge amounts of money involved there will be those self serving individuals that will entertain the conflict of interest and cheat. But since none of his athletes ever tested positive you see just how scientific and exact the project was. Without Nike this would have been impossible. In sharp contrast whatever happened to the Nike/Chapa business relationship? Maybe Rudy Chapa had too much integrity and wouldn't play in their sandbox any further? After I left running behind I became a competitive amateur cyclist. You would not believe the number of masters athletes using PED's over the age of 40 and even 50. It's not like you're ever going to get a professional contract at the age. BTW: It's an entirely different story involving Carey Pinkowsi, Rudy Chapa, Tim Keogh and their coach Dan Candiano at the 1974 Indiana State Cross Country High School Meet. Rudy Chapa being the only one to apologize for that debacle.

[@insiderugbywithmark]

Interesting read, let me share, Masters athletes cheat because of EGO, not because of sponsorship dollars. The human species is flawed in so many ways, and this doesnt reseed just because you get older. In fact, it probably gets worse as you try to hang onto something that resembles your youth.

[@kenhalal375]

@@insiderugbywithmark I tend to agree. There was definitely a crossing point for me in late 40's or early 50's when I was searching for ways to continue to compete at a level I was accustomed to. Eventually though I had to just let it go. I'm currently reading Kara Goucher's book "The Longest Race". Brings back a lot of bitter/sweet memories. But it has motivated me to get more consistent with my workouts.

[@EightFrancs]

​@@kenhalal375thank you for writing all of that information. Genuinely interesting to read.

[@Boatyboatyyy]

This is a pretty disgusting comment and I hope you read more about Larry Nassar and sexual assault before assuming what a reaction would be and projecting your own experience onto someone else’s. You don’t actually even know this man, who has been accused of other impropriety, and yet your instinct is to imply Kara is a liar

[@kenhalal375]

@@Boatyboatyyy I think you will see a comment down further where I’ve corrected my position on this after reading Kara’s book.

[@Joshy-]

oh my god i was gonna hold off on commenting until i watched the whole video but the death grips intro duuude

[@Samuel-qi7ln]

Great content, as always.

[@thekestrel9290]

Excellent choice using the Pikmin 2 rest level music for a few sections! I approve 👍

[@yaboi3702]

so awesome for the deathgrips intro

[@statictech7]

Excellent breakdown. Very informative.

[@ryanprasad2090]

Badass documentary! Although I do kind of wish Alberto would chime in here.

[@bohodance]

Great vid. Almost two month post Olympics were the word "doping" was barely mentioned lol this puts a lot things into perspective. We see athletics as something so pure and beautiful but when it comes down to it, it's just a money making industry which sucks.

[@stevenkicinski9619]

Regarding the administration of L-Carnitine, please don’t use the terms infusion and injection interchangeably. These are different modes of administration.

[@brinka7918]

can u explain?

[@stevenkicinski9619]

Infusions are typically a continuous supply administered through an IV directly into a vascular structure. An injection is more typically intramuscular or subcutaneous. Kinda semantics, but it confused me.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Rupp clearly _has_ worked hard and most definitely _has_ incredible talent. I was running in college and I was in a race that Rupp won, and had set a very fast (for me) personal best. As I was cooling down we passed by the track that was on the outermost edge of the race course and there was Salazar putting Rupp, who had just demolished the pretty competitive field, through some repeats. As I said, I was in the running scene of the Portland Metro from 2006 to 2010 and even back then there was always serious speculation about Salazar and the team, especially with the very unorthodox relationship between Salazar and Rupp. On top of that I heard from multiple first hand sources that Salazar is a real jerk. So it came as no surprise when the female athletes started lodging serious allegations of abuse and misconduct.

[@chasewade6482]

You and I ran in the same era. Everything you are saying is 100% accurate. I saw Alberto at the 2008 trials. Just walked by. I said “hi” and he kind of just glared at me… like dude… Galen was a nice guy. And I do believe that’s genuine. It’s just super foggy how his coach is a busted cheater but such a decorated NCAA guy and an Olympic medalist didn’t get busted… weird…

[@alexmorton6911]

Well most people would say that the drugs allow one to train harder and recover faster. It doesn't just give you a performance buff without increasing the training (whether quantity or quality or both). You still have to be uber dedicated.

[@ScotMctominay-ro1cf]

Brilliant and I love you that you call out all the cheats and Paul Kemp’s BS documentary .

[@thomasollinger7922]

Terrific presentation, but as in cycling, anytime you have a scandalous coach you don't have to look very far to find others just as scandalous. Reference: Dr Ferrari in cycling. I pro cycling almost every team had a mad scientist behind them.

[@makeniek3853]

I’ve never seen such report. Thank you…

[@tizioincognito.3330]

Thank you for this video as a gift for Christmas.❤ You are the best.

[@DurkeyTheJellicleCat]

Excellent use of Death grips! Makes for such an engaging buildup

[@jeffreycarman2185]

1:00:47 my collegiate coach was in the professional running scene at the height of Salazar’s career and back then, many people thought that Salazar was doping.

[@bryanryder7196]

What’s crazy is there is probably still a laundry list of stuff we still don’t know about this entire saga

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

The Sifan audio is corrupted... Just a heads up. @ 30:00 ish ...

[@williamadkins6894]

RunnerBoi, I took the asthma medication that Rupp started taking when he was 16 (my asthma was extreme at the time), although I don't know if it would help performance wise but I will say that it was very strong when I took it and my body could hardly handle it (though I was younger when I took it temporarily). Because it is very strong, if your body can handle the side effects, I cannot even imagine the benefits. Makes sense since it is literally a steroid.

[@KamiaTwin012]

It’s a corticosteroid, not an anabolic steroid. Very different.

[@williamadkins6894]

@@KamiaTwin012 It doesn't have to be an anabolic steroid to still benefit you. Obviously I wouldn't take an anabolic to help with asthma.

[@ak8990]

I feel for asthma patients it’s different. Asthmatics are running with less access to lung capacity due to their asthma. An inhaler just helps open their lungs back to normal standards. If there is any benefit, anti inflammatory and increased glucose in blood stream, it’s minimal to the overall just evening the playing field for asthmatics and normal athletes. Having said that, I’m not talking about those taking it who doesn’t really need it.

[@harveydean7952]

The boxer Billy Joe Saunders was sanctioned for using asthma medication too.

[@agame5998]

Great work once again 👏👏👏

[@BurnerZiegler]

Death Grips for the intro is sick

[@FergusHodgson]

The time drops shared here, especially those of Rupp, are not absurd. With the right training, nutrition, and broader support, athletes can make serious improvements. In that case it was about 30 seconds over 5,000 meters. I suspect those commenting here will agree that such a drop is little evidence of doping, although that does not rule it out.

[@amircastilla07]

Imagine all those persons that are clean and never get the respect, recognition and money they deserve while other persons and corporations get all the benefits and almost no blow back. Just pains my heart.

[@runkaiserrun7435]

These just get better and better man! Keep it up!

[@ElmerLin]

"It's a logical fallacy to conclude any of them were clean in the end" By extension of this logic, their competitors must also not be clean given how close the performances are? Unnatural vs natural has a grey overlapping area for sure, but at the absolute elite level, i'm not so sure.

[@Bigern2998]

Great point!

[@alexmorton6911]

Yea I think that's pretty obvious.

[@Price_Drawz5k]

I always wondered why it has seemed like Galen hasn’t done nearly as well since his early career but it’s much more understandable if he took testosterone as a high schooler. His body likely doesn’t produce as much testosterone naturally anymore.

[@cjcurtis8944]

Galen has always been injury prone. I think age plus the stack of injuries could explain it. Also because of how young Galen was, I somehow think it plausible that Galen never knew what was really happening. His religious nature and naive personality seem like Alberto could have easily manipulated the whole thing and Galen might not have fully understood.

[@MONROE711]

Epic video, keep up the great work!

[@FinnyFinnFinn96]

I highly recommend Kara Goucher’s book The Longest Race mentioned in this video. Lots of super interesting background information. For example, the Gouchers knew Dr Jeffrey Brown before he came to NOP - an intriguing wrinkle in the story. Additionally there’s just a ton of circumstantial evidence - eg Kara hearing Mo talk about how he usually got an injection instead of a cream. It’s a real page turner and at times reads like a political thriller. It definitely makes you reconsider your relationship with Nike as a brand, and as somebody who thinks they still make some of the best high performance gear around, it’s hard to wrap your brain around it at times.

[@KTVH12]

@DO-he8geI’m pretty sure that Goucher wasn’t the “innocent fawn in the headlights”.

[@bigjohn2811]

Henry Rono was an unbelievable runner, but he was quite a bit older like many of the African runners going US colleges in the 1970s. Henry was about 5 and 1/2 years older than Salazar, so it's no surprise a 27 year old beating a 20 year old in the 1979 10k NCAA championship.

[@brendanward9923]

Great work!

[@brinka7918]

couldn’t care less about running but i love stuff like this

[@chasewade6482]

I was in Eugene for the full two weeks of the 2008 Olympic Trials. It’s amazing how small that community was with the pros out and about. I remember this underlying rumor going on the entire time of “Alberto and his team cheats”. None of this was shocking when it came out. What’s shocking is no runner was ever busted. Thank god for Steve Magness blowing the whistle.

[@MadisonClark765]

1:06:40 In Karas book The Longest Race on page 61 she claims that it was her and Adam that introduced Dr Brown to Alberto. She claimed it was after mentioning Brown as a reputable person, Alberto then reached out to him and visited him in Houston in early 2005.

[@akiranova8641]

Thank you!

[@JackFlash771]

Really appreciate this video, but the speculation about athletes improving "too quickly" and therefore probably doping seems unfair. Athletes progress at different rates, with runners often hitting plateaus and then breaking through.

[@davidlynch9049]

That was really great. Much appreciated for your hardwork. I also hope they don't sue you.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

1:18:29 you seem to have forgotten the case of Shelby Houlihan in 2021, but to be fair I’m not sure she was coached by Salazar but Jerry Schumacher (Salazar’s assistant) was then, and is now the BTC coach. Houlihan’s very absurd excuse and the circling of the wagons that ensued among her NOP/BTC teammates also clearly spells out a persistent systemic problem among Nike athletes.

[@TongueOfCrow]

I started watching and heard the guitar track in the background and thought to myself, “there’s no way this is Beware right now…” hahaha

[@aroundandround]

The past tense of seek is sought, not “seeked”.

[@bombfog1]

Great video. Wanted to note though: the past tense of “seek” is “sought” not “seeked.” Now that I’ve finished the video, there are many polysyllabic words that you don’t know the definition to; it’s great that you seem to be attempting to improve your video with these words, but you ought to check the definitions of those you don’t know with absolute certainty.

[@anthonylarson7919]

colon and semi colon in the same sentence....run on.

[@esportsfan2118]

The Michele Ferrari of running. Cycling fans will know.

[@seb16x2110]

it's incredible that Mo and Rupp still got to compete throughout their entire careers. Dirty as can be.

[@Sal.mohamed0]

Realize Mo Farah never doped, he was one of the most tested athletes in the world at the time. Yes he did take L Carnitine which isn’t against doping rules if taken in the right quantities.

[@gregoryluna535]

@@Sal.mohamed0 most tested athlete ever doesn’t mean much. Armstrong was probably the most tested athlete of his era and didn’t test positive despite big time doping. Many champion dopers retired with no positives. Not accusing Mo, just saying the no positive argument is meaningless.

[@joshuaolayanju9658]

@@gregoryluna535The thing about Lance Armstrong is said a lot even though it is technically not true. I am pretty sure he tested positive at one point but forged medical documents to dodge repercussions.

[@gregoryluna535]

@@joshuaolayanju9658 yeah, besides that after fact saddle sore prescription and the tour looking the other way.

[@seamusweber8298]

Muhammed Farah. Up to his eyeballs in the stuff

[@mackiechang]

Nick Bester was second behind Salazar in the comrades ultra? He must have been only a child!

[@sergelu]

So, Mo Farah, the very best runner coached by Salazar, he did nothing wrong… makes you wonder

[@tizioincognito.3330]

Looking forward for the video where you explain why all top athletes are doping.

[@EightFrancs]

Do you have information to share? Genuine question, not trolling.

[@stevestarr9769]

When I was 22, he was my hero. Now that I'm 62, he's a zero.

[@kenhalal375]

I just want to correct something I mispoke about in my initial comment in regards to Kara Goucher and the stories about the massages she had with Alberto. After reading her book now and getting a better understanding of her personality and the struggles she had on and off the track I believe in her claims. If you've not read her book I would highly recommend it. It brought back a lot of bitter sweet memories and challenges for me as a runner. Her book has motivated me to get more consistent in my workouts and to never give up. She certainly had more than her fair share of injuries, illness and setbacks which may have been influenced by the demeaning enviroment she was in under Salazar. As a cyclist in my later years now I can see the link between Salazar and Armstrong. Both very similar personalities. Even if you take the PED's out of the NOP equation Salazar is still a loser as a coach and human being in my book.

[@sroycze9284]

You should add this to the original comment.

[@AllyourBase3]

Crazy how all these athletes that have arguably the most documented and important medical documents and history can have so many mistakes!

[@michaeldouma5401]

Why does the narrator raise his voice at the end of every sentence?

[@ricardo1000821]

great work, who is the athlete at 1:23:00 ?

[@martydobbins5071]

Jessica Hull

[@tabstabs1204]

We can't hear anything at 30'15 with Sifan Hassan.

[@GottaLoveKat]

Love your vids on cheating scandals keep em coming

[@fasseupaula]

Please do a video on Tobias Wolfson

[@absurdist5134]

Eh I'm pretty sure we can condemn PED's just fine.

[@brewpat]

This. Was. Awesome.

[@Far-cw2xy]

What’s the mystery? He doped his athletes and treated them like garbage.

[@randylawson3319]

How do you explain Billy Mills running the 1964 10k finals a minute faster than his fastest 10k. Was he doping in 1964? Or is it possible to have exceptional improvements that are just that, IMPROVEMENTS.

[@Bweyg]

I mean one of my 5k races I ran 19:54 seconds breaking 20 minutes for the first time and barely at that, then the next 5k which just happened to be my final 5k race and a championship race at that I ran 19:21, improving by 33 seconds. So I think it's possible for him to run a minute faster in his 10k, which is double the 5k.

[@fishflake1209]

Metric distances weren’t the standard in American track and field until the late 1970s. Billy Mills bettered his 10,000-meter PR by over a minute at the 1964 Olympics because most of the races he ran were over six miles instead.

[@ragreenburg]

@@Bweyg Those aren't at all comparable though. No disrespect but the athletic level of someone who runs a 19:54 5k and an Olympic champion aren't comparable. So you can't take your experience and extrapolate that to someone of a much higher level. The fact is that the higher level you are, the smaller your improvements get. There's no doubt that when running 19:54 you weren't anywhere near the actual peak of what your body could perform but for an Olympic champion, they sure are pretty damn close.

[@Bweyg]

@nburg I'm not taking any disrespect as I know there is a difference between them and I, but what I'M saying is that it can happen up until the very VERY peak, and right now the WR for the 10k is 26:11, nearly sub 26 minutes, so nearly breaking 29 minutes to nearly breaking 28 minutes isn't that big of a stretch. Or I mean it IS a big stretch of an improvement, but it's not shaddy in anyway. Also I'm not sure if you are talking about Billy Mills and his 28:24 10k or some other 10k race but I'm going with the ladder.

[@KTVH12]

@@BweygAt what Championship race do you compete in with a 19 minute finish in the 5000 meters? Were you lapped twice?

[@ericjacobs6276]

Respected this guy until I read Kara Gouchers book

[@trevorwillis1729]

She needed some money :)

[@superuner73]

If you still believe in Santa Claus then you most likely believe these elite athletes are clean.

[@user-ro7ee7]

The Best Coach...

[@gregs3301]

Kind of amazing to what has been done to a coach obssesed with his job who wanted to dance on the line and push to the limits while the competition been give a green card to cross the line by miles. How do you think medals are won?

[@squiglemcsquigle8414]

I have never heard the comrades marathon being pronounced so badly

[@porthabalar5014]

Would have to be some insanely clear evidence to make me believe that Craig Engels is not clean

[@OtesOtesOtes]

The devil lol the death grips v accurate ok dying 3x is relatable

[@KTVH12]

Salazar was born in Cuba, eh? You know who else was born in Cuba? Rosie Ruiz.🤔🤔🤔

[@mbird01]

I didn't hear what sifan Hassan was saying 😞

[@KTVH12]

That’s ok. Nobody did.

[@theboybrand]

Doping is rife amongst all sports at elite level. I'm stating the obvious though, right?

[@princehal4500]

Not excusing Salazar bc he clearly tried to give his athletes an advantage with performance enhancing drugs. But isn’t everyone doping in track and fields? Let’s be serious. As a fan, I’m partly to blame. I love to see records broken and super-human achievements. The grueling training and continuous demand on the body are too much at the elite level.

[@adam_nathan]

I see Henrik Ingebigsten is listed as “likely doping” in that leak, I would be shocked if Jakob isn’t doping as well. (Also I think this video is great but the past tense of “seek” is “sought”, not “seeked”, you used the word “exploit” at one point when I’m 99% sure you meant something else, and you said the lawyers were “inefficient” when I think you meant “incompetent”, that stuff just bothered me a bunch and had to say something about it sorry! I think if you worked on fixing those minor errors it would really improve the professionalism of your videos since they’re so good otherwise!)

[@davidlard8490]

You need to read Kara Goucher's book "The Longest Race" . You will see what Salazar was about.

[@missaamane8580]

Honestly.... i think all of them knew and were cheating with exception of a few... Sucks but no way you play dumb when it all comes out.

[@nc8186]

They all played dumb and all got away with it. So idk what your comment means lmao

[@deaf2819]

Cuban needle crisis.