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@garychartrand73784 ай бұрын
What nonsense. A strictly materialist explanation is all that is offered from the beginning and can only come from narrow minded materialists who obviously leave out a very important factor needed for an accurate view or theory - God and His/Her/It's Consciousness. I am one of the fortunate ones who KNOW, without a shadow of a doubt, that God exists. God has performed miracles through me with WITNESSES and many more without witnesses. A miracle just happened for me while I was writing this. I cannot help but Love God. In the 17 years since I've been of service to Him , He has shown me nothing but Love and Humor. Anyway, my point is that you will NEVER find consciousness emerging from the brain anymore than you can find radio waves in a radio. My proposition is that the physical Bain is actually a very sophisticated computer/transceiver. What scientists should be looking for is the circuitry in the brain that allows us to pick up the consciousness signals AND the circuitry that allows us to send signals (some people call it "asking the Universe for what you desire". Consciousness is immaterial and you cannot "prove" the immaterial using material means. Bless you all 🙏❤️
@tanejaakshay1992Ай бұрын
The unification between Einstein theory of relativity and the quantum mechanism lies in consciousness. As it only the consciousness associated with an observer that collapses the wave function and brings a wave pattern into materialistic form. Quantum -> Relativistic It is shocking that modern science has ignored consciousness and is trying to find the answers of existence in hypothetical multi dimensional universe (string theory) propelled by mathematical assumptions. Consciousness should be more thoroughly studied by modern science than it is currently studied.
@robgau25014 ай бұрын
I rather think that matter arises from consciousness, not the other way around.
@sociallypatterneddefect95804 ай бұрын
There is no matter
@baronvonrotten34 ай бұрын
I bet you'd also rather not think at all
@ChavisvonBradfordscience4 ай бұрын
Why do most people's ideas, thoughts, and beliefs masquerade hedonism and fear of death as anthropocentrism and Cartesian-Dualism? To understand how consciousness is emergent and temporary, consider what you remember before you were born or an unconscious dreamless state during a surgery in which time pauses and you can't even perceive stillness and darkness.
@cedarraine78294 ай бұрын
All phenomena manifests within Consciousness. The multiverses all exist within Consciousness
@baronvonrotten34 ай бұрын
@cedarraine7829 you say that with such certainty.. seems pretty ironic yeah?
@KingBritish4 ай бұрын
Another masterpiece from Disculogic? Today is a good day!.
@mabaker4 ай бұрын
I waited 84 years for your new video.
@TH3F4LC0Nx4 ай бұрын
I do sort of tend towards a panpsychic outlook. We know that there are levels of consciousness; a human is conscious of their world and their self which beholds the world, a dog is conscious of their world but not their self which beholds it, and even a plant has some dim awareness by which it moves towards the light which nourishes it. I think I.I.T. does provide a good solution to the problem. An emergent quality could only emerge from elements which already contain the potential for it.
@wilhelmvonn96194 ай бұрын
How do you know that a dog is not conscious of itself?
@TH3F4LC0Nx4 ай бұрын
@@wilhelmvonn9619 It is conscious of itself insofar as it feels pain and pleasure and understands instinctively that these things are bad or good to/for it, but it does not have a conception of its "self", as it does not comprehend the fact that it comprehends. Self-consciousness is the highest form of consciousness, the recognition of the thinking entity that one is as an individual. A dog does not recognize itself in a mirror, unlike apes and elephants and dolphins, which have higher degrees of consciousness, or "self-consciousness".
@sajithsomaratna14934 ай бұрын
@@wilhelmvonn9619 Dog is conscious but thinking pattern is different to us may be like a toddler or developmentally challenged (only in language, customs, and learning subject which changes its behaviour but fully intelligent and fully independent
@sajithsomaratna14934 ай бұрын
And self aware too care for itself (Not by mirror test )
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
"We know that there are levels of consciousness" On the contrary, we know that there are not levels of consciousness. Aside from the fact that there is no such thing as consciousness, a self is either conscious of something or not conscious of something, there is no in between. Only human beings are conscious of something . They must be else they could not function in civilization. Every other organism is either reactive or instinct driven or both. Unlike us they have *no need* to be conscious since they fit perfectly into their *extremely simple* ecosystems thanks to the evolutionary process. (Extremely simple in comparison to our extremely complex one. Just compare 'negotiating a mortgage with a banker you just met at a PTA meeting in a room on the 30th floor of a skyscraper in a city stretching beyond the horizon' with 'finding food, eating, pooping, sleeping and mating', to see the truly vast difference). Every human lived in the garden of Eden before the concept of the self created self interest out of which flowered the ability to lie and cheat and murder. And even human beings are only conscious of the world ~60% of the time.
@coldflu28 күн бұрын
it’s consciousness and awareness that give meaning and reality to existence. Without a perceiver, the universe would be like a silent, unobserved performance. Consciousness acts as the bridge between the intangible and tangible, transforming light, energy, and form into experience and understanding. This perspective resonates with many spiritual and philosophical traditions where consciousness is seen as the root of all existence. It’s as though the Great Light, as a representation of both the origin and the perceiving awareness, illuminates not just the cosmos but the very idea of “being.” Reality, in this sense, relies on consciousness to both create and perceive, weaving an intricate connection between existence itself and the act of awareness.
@PromisseD4 ай бұрын
Arbi, you made a video on consciousness around 2015-2017 that I watched over and over again. I love how your research and narration has evolved (I can digest this much better). Looking forward to Part II
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad you're enjoying my content. Good to hear from an old follower ;)
@JohnDerhammer3 ай бұрын
I must confess that mankind did change abruptly with the development of introspective contemplation. To go from hunter/gatherers to philosophical logicians was a quantum leap.
@elonever.2.0713 ай бұрын
There is a group of people who believe that jump was the result of ingesting psycho delic 'shrooms. If you look at the cave are in France the difference is stark. From stick figure men and animals to fully formed and shaded representations.
@mackroscopik3 ай бұрын
The oldest evidence of philosophy comes from ancient hunter-gatherer shamans, such as African and Australian Aboriginals who both see consciousness as the base of reality itself. Modern philosophy is based on a more materialist view than our ancient ancestors...
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
"mankind did change abruptly with the development of introspective contemplation" But before "introspective contemplation" could happen the concept of the self must first have become embedded in the human thinking process. Why? Because the self is the subject of introspective contemplation. Yes?
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Hunter-gatherers also always had contemplation and introspection
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
@@mackroscopik because materialism is supported by evidence. But yeah, implication that hunter-gatherers didn't have inteospection fro the original commenter reeks of racism
@Eraserhedd3 ай бұрын
Another phenomenal examination of a complex topic.
@Disculogic3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏
@bubble_nut50004 ай бұрын
Whoever made this video has created a true masterpiece in the digital world!!! Well made, great content with an awesome music choice. Thank you. This will be a repeat multiple watch.
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. My pleasure.
@micheldisclafani23433 ай бұрын
Consciousness is the tool that nature gives every living creature to be able to function in and with reality. I speak by personal experience, presently I am 86 but I remember clearly the instant when I woke up from the lethargic sleep of the baby and felt, in awakening, reality, beautiful and all there for me. I was then nine months old, my mother told me. Consciousness is created by nature in the conceived and growing creature. We must not make consciousness transcendental , it is, like the function all our organs, the function of all the body in order to be able to deal with reality, with life. Thank you for reading.
@johnmitchell89253 ай бұрын
Not all living creatures are conscious. Actually very few according to the research
@sabrinaszabo93553 ай бұрын
How do you account for acts of love and compassion, as well as creative and musical ability? This is divine. If we create our lives, and we are a reflection of the Macrocosm, surely, I say, we are pieces of God and people. Maybe your conception of what God is, is not actually correct. If the universe created itself than the universe is, indeed, God. And we should be in search of virtue and integrity, because that is the meaning of life.
@elonever.2.0713 ай бұрын
@@johnmitchell8925 I don't know about that. Years back my BBQ grill stopped working so I took it apart and *grasshopper(s)* had built a nest in the propane line at the end where it encapsulates the burner. There was also about a dozen small grasshoppers in that nest. It took more than several trips to build the nest as big as it was an it was made of tiny blades of grass 'bit' into pieces about 1 inch long. There was 40 or fifty of these pieces of grass in the end of the hose. You can call it instinct if you want to however it took many many generations of doing that until it became instinct.
@lubavukadinovic57523 ай бұрын
Interesting:" we MUST NOT MAKE CONSCIOUSNESS TRANSCENDENTAL"Thank you ❤
@NamelessAwarenessG3 ай бұрын
Tsk. Not the weak and depressing Materialistic thought.
@SuperLuminalElf3 ай бұрын
The (Human) Brain doesn’t generate Consciousness; it HOSTS it: the Brain is a uniquely powerful Biocomputer that MIND .. Consciousness .. utilzes whilst a Human Being inhabits a Body
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
No evidence for that. Plenty of evidence to the contrary. I like how the dualists still try to salvage their esoteric unrealistic idea
@Be2ruАй бұрын
Yes!🙌 thats just what I was saying to my partner as we are watching this!
@REDPUMPERNICKEL28 күн бұрын
By 'Consciousness' you mean what most people mean by 'ghost'.
@rockapedra11304 ай бұрын
Very thorough and well made. Plus a very soothing voice ;-)
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed the content. Appreciate your support.
@robertvann73494 ай бұрын
@@DisculogicVery very simple answer. Consciousness caused the effect of consciousness in the universe. p is non p law of contradiction 1>, non p, non consciousness caused the impossible contradiction effect of 2>, p, consciousness in the universe See how simple. A conscious being must have existed to avoid p is non p illogical impossible contradiction. Funny not many think straight. 🎉🎉🎉
@Will-m4e4 ай бұрын
These are so good, please keep making more
@BLSFL_HAZE4 ай бұрын
Evidently, the three primary modes of being are "reactivity" (i.e. non-living phenomena), "responsiveness" (i.e. flora), and "engagement" (i.e. fauna). The core of an engaged entity naturally enacts the "registration" of both public and private phenomena. The periphery of an engaged entity can simultaneously register with both the core of that same entity, and with core of any proximate engaged entities external to that periphery. All other public phenomena (i.e. responsiveness and reactivity) can register with multiple external cores at once, but cannot, itself, enact registration. Private phenomena can register only with the core of the engaged entity within which it occurs. This form of registration cannot, itself, be registered, as such an occurrence is analogous to the impossibility of light being illuminated by other light.
@AndreiBogorodski3 ай бұрын
As someone who worked with alzheimer patients, I can say that consciousness is an illusion made by our brain to give us the feeling like we are in control, while we have no control at all. Everything we do in life, the simplest discissions we do, are made by our brain, and "consciousness" is the feeling we have of "us" while we do what our brain demands. Consciousness is what makes us take responsibility for our actions, while we just do whatever our brain want. You should really read about the world view of alzheimer patients, they are 100% conscious, and yet they do things that have zero logic to them, and they are 100% sure that what they do is correct
@Disculogic3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. My research on this topic hasn't finished yet, and I haven't even started on illusionism yet.
@AndreiBogorodski3 ай бұрын
@@Disculogic yeah, you should really check out the Alzheimer topic. From my experience, what I saw and witnessed I came to conclusion that all animals have consciousness, but just like we cant understand their view of reality, they cant understand ours, for them we are like apes with alzheimer. kzbin.infour3ygSrtjKo
@Disculogic3 ай бұрын
@@AndreiBogorodski The short was amazing ❤ thanks.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Certainly more realistic than what most commenters say. Plenty of blatant esoteric woo woo in the comments
@DisneyPlayhousetv4 ай бұрын
NO FUCKING WAY!!!! I AM SO SO EXCITED. THANK YOU. IM SO HAPPY.
@curthagenau78584 ай бұрын
Thanks for such a knowledgeable and balanced view of this challenging but rewarding field of consciousness
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@dmtdreamz77064 ай бұрын
If your consciousness becomes high enough, the present moment will be metaphysically recontextualized as outside of time, as you will realize that time is imaginary. When you become conscious that time is imaginary your present experience will become Eternal and Absolute. Motion will still happen, but motion will not be situated in the conceptual matrix of "time", it will be Eternal. You will realize that your Consciousness has always been Eternal. In other words, you have been Conscious forever. Believe it or not, Consciousness is so powerful that right now you are dreaming that you have not been conscious forever. Consciousness is powerful enough to dream its own finitude, its own beginning and end. When you realize that you have been dreaming the beginning and end of your consciousness, you will realize that actually you have been conscious forever, and that will be the moment you will know yourself as God. Human consciousness is just a tiny island within an infinite ocean of CONSCIOUSNESS. Beyond the human island there is an alien island, and more islands beyond that. Islands floating in INFINITY. Death is the transcendence of the human island to explore the larger ocean.
@neps4th3 ай бұрын
Potent Suff !
@elonever.2.0713 ай бұрын
Time is the flavor of experience. Time can seem to speed up or slowdown or be excruciatingly painful or exhilaratingly joyous depending on the flavor of that experience. I agree this is similar to a dream, like being in a long term virtual reality experience. Nothing is real here but the sensual filters we are given during this experience make it seem real. Anything that happens to this body or this mind during this experience has zero effect on our true self which is pure creative conscious energy. We take nothing with us when this experience ends except the lessons learned and sometimes the skills we acquired along the way. Death is the end of the virtual experience and we go back to SOURCE which is our true home.
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
"When you become conscious that time is imaginary your present experience will become Eternal" 'Time' is not so much imaginary as conceptual. "Eternal" is a temporal term (temporal: relating to time). Being conceptual means there is no past, present or future in the universe and no Eternity either. There is just stuff that exists and moves. There is no such thing as Consciousness for the same reason as there is no such thing as Time. Rather, there are selfs who are conscious. Selfs are abstract entities who began to exist in their abstract way when the evolution of culture introduced the self concept via language for the purpose of managing our exceedingly complex civilization, something that simply could not be handled by instinct driven apes.
@belightwithinus26 күн бұрын
Yep , individuated chunks of consciousness and the big consciousness complex, i read this view from Eliam Raell works. 4sphere Ontological Model
@REDPUMPERNICKEL26 күн бұрын
@@belightwithinus Why say "consciousness" when what you really mean is 'ghost'?
@AquariusGate4 ай бұрын
2:28 I'm only this far in and I have so many questions! Speaking of existence is d8fferent to existsne itself, the two can't be reconciled in the tense sense of one word. Existing, existed, exist. However long and short the term, there's a lot to life it misses. "....we all carry a universe in our own..." we are not truly aware of humanity, individually, or in some holistic sense. My cosmic view is one that forms and reforms around information others dug out of their oen time and effort. Making sense of meaning left by ancestors of a very long hereditary line. Maybe we build a picture for each other to delve deeper? Great food for thought thank you 🎉
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@greggc684 ай бұрын
Love the content!
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏
@bettusascaino55324 ай бұрын
As babies we don’t differentiate from the environment, our mother and everything else is one thing. It takes a long time to see ourselves different or individuals and see others as such. I think it takes experiencing others to be able to see ourselves and viceversa. It takes us a life to separate from the world to at the end realise we are nothing in isolation. Full circle
@yurkdawg3 ай бұрын
The problem with panpsychism is that it must explain why complex processes like the vast majority of our brain activity is not conscious (that which regulates glands, heartbeats, breathing, digestion, and even the Freudian/Jungian subconscious.) The same goes for complex computer programs/servers handling a TON of information processing and complexity. (Trust me, after 13 years as a professional software engineer, one thing I am absolutely sure about is that computers, as they exist now, even when mimicking consciousness via "AI" are nowhere near conscious.) On the other hand I'm positive my dog was conscious. I do believe the panpsychists are onto something in biology: I think even a fly has a tiny bit of consciousness. There are formal explanations for this, like "Girdle Incompleteness" but a simple example to demonstrate this is that a fancy "smart” Roomba auto vacuum can mess-up and get caught in an infinite loop bouncing against a wall over and over until it loses power. But something even a little conscious, like a spider, would never get stuck in an infinite loop like that.
@rockapedra11304 ай бұрын
Instant subscribe. Fantastic in all respects.
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
💥🙏
@pontussvensson74974 ай бұрын
Very good job making this videos!
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@zaggedout3 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you!
@Disculogic3 ай бұрын
Pleasure.
@markmaloney81544 ай бұрын
Memory is the source of consciousness. When babies are born, they appear to be conscious, but they are not; they're exhibiting autonomic responses to environmental stimuli. As they experience things in life, they start building memories, and the more conscious they become. It takes years to acquire enough memory to become fully conscious. Another term for consciousness is ‘awareness.’ Without memory, you wouldn't know (be aware of) what things are. Memory is the heart of consciousness…
@wolf55054 ай бұрын
Not quite. Memory is a feature of consciousness not the 'source' of consciousness. Self-awareness is a feature of consciousness as well. Babies are indeed conscious - the physical body is the limiter/inhibitor of consciousness while in the embodied state.
@markmaloney81544 ай бұрын
@@wolf5505 Actually, memory ‘is the core’ consciousness. Babies are not conscious when they are born. They appear to be conscious, but they don’t have any comprehension of the stimuli they are experiencing. Babies crying and moving when born are not a conscious reaction, they’re an autonomic response. They go from a dark warm womb to the shock of bright light, touch, sounds, smells, and pain. They are not conscious of suckling either, it too is an autonomic response. Their brain is a blank slate and doesn’t know how to process the stimuli they are experiencing. It takes them days to begin formulating a limited state of consciousness. As they experience the sensations of life, their brains start formulating memories and they start to develop awareness and consciousness. Consciousness is a process of comprehension. Memory defines what they’re experiencing. As I said in my original comment; the more memory - the more consciousness one develops. There are many conditions where a person can be awake but not conscious, such as people in catatonic or in vegetative states. Yes, being awake is clearly necessary for consciousness, but not sufficient to qualify as consciousness itself. Without memory, you couldn’t develop consciousness. Here's an example of how the brain works. Vision is not as it appears, it’s actually a neural hallucination. Light and colors don’t travel through the optic nerves, only invisible electrochemical impulses travel through the optic nerves. Light/colors hit photoreceptive molecules [known as cones and rods] in the retinas at the back of eyes and are transformed into millions of electrochemical impulses that travel to eight locations in the brain to be processed. It’s the primary visual cortex, known as the occipital lobe, that processes most of the visual impulses. The brain then takes those electrochemical impulses and formulates an image of the world outside. Vision is an internal mental map used to navigate the world outside. When a baby first experiences light/colors, it can’t define them into shapes or colors, that takes acquired memory to begin to formulate an image. For the first few days of a baby’s life, they cannot form neural images. Sound, touch, and taste must also go through the process of forming memories before the brain can process the stimuli. To better understand this process of neural hallucination; dreams are neural hallucinations formed from memory; without memory, you wouldn’t be able to dream. When you think about consciousness, it should be noted that it’s the most complex thing that exists in the universe…
@pspcoop4 ай бұрын
@@markmaloney8154wow, cool comment any suggestions on books to read on this themes? I think consciousness is process of writing memory. it's very easy to recall favorite car from 10 years ago, than remember what was your own thoughts, especially reasoning. And it is impossible to recall details of chain of thought on car from 10 years ago. Entire books of my thoughts are gone, so as yours.
@garychartrand73784 ай бұрын
Memory is the source of EGO. Consciousness makes it possible to be aware of the Ego. Duhh!
@jaredwolfe40424 ай бұрын
@@markmaloney8154memory is not consciousness. A baby is conscious the instant functioning sense organs contact external sense objects. Memory is a product of the mind coming into contact with sensory input and mental formations. You all seem to be conflating awareness with consciousness. “You” can be completely anesthetized and still have the consciousnesses persist. Your awareness of things is not required.
@DesignDesigns4 ай бұрын
Well made.....well explained.
@romeldiaz26143 ай бұрын
Mind boggling🎉🎉🎉
@hobonickel8403 ай бұрын
Wieman wrote in review on Alfred North Whitehead's "Process and Reality" c1930... "Not many people will read Whitehead's recent book in this generation; not many will read it in any generation. But its influence will radiate through concentric circles of popularization until the common man will think and work in the light of it, not knowing whence the light came. After a few decades of discussion and analysis, one will be able to understand it more readily than can now be done"
@NiteBoatMusic4 ай бұрын
Channel: a well narrated , wonderful and vast contribution towards videography of this nature, The "About" could still be more informative at least here on KZbin with out sacrificing anonymity, which is a possible explanation of why there is so little information as to who? But what inspired and what went in to the productions behind the scenes? Authors and pseudonyms can still preserve intent, and deliver biographical content which viewers additionally would be interested in.....
@0MNIDaSher004 ай бұрын
its brilliant, thx 💫🌗💎
@nicolaparsons57033 ай бұрын
A true test of faith will teach you the art of mental creation you'll have no more questions after that . ❤
@clivejenkins40334 ай бұрын
Consciousness is fundamental
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as Consciousness but absolute nothing is the situation if one's self is not conscious of something
@clivejenkins40332 ай бұрын
You are wrong, consciousness IS FUNDAMENTAL
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
@@clivejenkins4033 Since there is no such thing as Consciousness, how can it be FUNDAMENTAL?
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Any evidence for that? All empirical evidence shows that it is not
@clivejenkins4033Ай бұрын
Either way, you cant prove it
@shars.5554 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Appreciate your support.
@Khashayarissi-ob4yj4 ай бұрын
With luck and more power to you. hoping for more videos
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@jeffmonje54522 ай бұрын
We are each individual stars 🤩
@mariandumitrascu17074 ай бұрын
Keep it up! Thanks!
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏 appreciate your support.
@karimallidina66333 ай бұрын
The universe supports emergent concepts like temperature, possibly time as well. I find it easier to assume consciousness emerges from sufficiently complex forms of organised "matter".
@Disculogic3 ай бұрын
Did you hear the entire IIT section? I can't see why someone would gravitate more towards "complex forms of organized matter" than something like Integrated Information Theory as the source of consciousness.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
@@Disculogic IIT doesn't contradict "complex forms of organised matter". Because the latter is what integrates the information
@karimallidina6633Ай бұрын
@@Disculogic Is IT a conjecture or a theory backed with experimental proof?
@kyran3334 ай бұрын
Physicist Tom cambell has worked this out, consciousness is an information system.
@HeavyMagic0013 ай бұрын
If you mind, it matters, If you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter.
@lubavukadinovic57523 ай бұрын
Consciousness is intention to live and connect with what is without exploiting
@alexd.alessandro54193 ай бұрын
😂Thanks for the Super Clear and Flowing overview of some of today's popular theories. ❤
@Disculogic3 ай бұрын
Didn't get the laughing emoji, but sure, my pleasure lol
@Zach-h9k3 ай бұрын
Perhaps the extra-physical properties are a product of how matter is arranged in the universe, like neurons in a brain?
@technatured21683 ай бұрын
I’d say there are levels to consciousness that build on themselves and integrate as do. Transcending and including previous states of consciousness as they move toward higher levels of sensing and actions. As awareness increases and builds, structures are put into place within that awareness to actually ignore previous kinds of awareness that are “tuned” to the kind of sensing and actions they’re aiming to achieve. Like breathing, heart rate, etc. There’s no need to have conscious awareness and control of those systems from a higher level, as the main focus of awareness at that higher state needs to be on the next “form” in progressing to understand what is now current sensed and actionable at this newer level of sensing and actionability. Top of the pyramid looking down and the action of consciousness, but I don’t know that it’s the cause of it. For that I’d say it’s a top down bottom up kind of feedback loop of an entire system. More of a whole makes the parts, and those parts can then change the whole.
@AquariusGate4 ай бұрын
23:19 do buildings and architecture convey ideas from a different consciousness? Ancient meaning we can translate in modern terms?
@DrIanRubenstein3 ай бұрын
My own feeling is that consciousness is primary and everything flows from that, including space, time and individual identity. The only problem with that though is that you have to try to explain why we sometimes become unconscious!
@mackroscopik3 ай бұрын
Unconsciousness is still consciousness without self awareness. Most consciousness is non self aware consciousness
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
@@mackroscopik "Unconsciousness is still consciousness" is a bold faced contradiction.
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
What is it like when one is not conscious? It's not like anything or, put another way, not being conscious is indistinguishable from *absolute* nothing. It is one's self who is conscious and when I say 'conscious' I mean 'conscious of'. I mean, there is no such thing as consciousness per se. It is one's self who exists but only because it is one's self who is conscious. When one's self is not conscious one's self is non existent. (Imagine one's body in a deep and dreamless slumber when along comes a monster who blasts one's head with a shotgun. One would not, could not, notice the transition from alive to dead because one's self, being unconscious, is already non existent (entirely aside from the fact that the dead cannot think)). ('Being dead' is an oxymoron, a kind of bumping into one of the limits of language, a bit like, 'I felt nothing'). Some may find this realization disturbing because it contrasts so sharply and unpleasantly with the desire to persist. (A desire evolution has implanted in us so that we don't immediately go extinct, anthropcentrically speaking). One will not exist if one is not conscious of anything. Being conscious is fundamental to one's being. Being and being conscious are identical *for* one. (I faintly recall some French philosopher emphasizing the importance of 'for' but I quit reading because the text was so dense and long and life is so short, for one). Cheers!
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
This is contradictory to empirical evidence. What mechanism would you propose to space and time to arise from consciousness? There are clear mechanisms for the opposite. And it sounds like another blatant attempt to anthropomorphise nature. Human arrogance knows no boundaries. We want to think that whole universe is like us, or is based on something similar to us and what we find important
@mackroscopikАй бұрын
@@KateeAngel WE are the evidence that nature is like us. Subjective experience is the only evidence of nature and it is only experienced by consciousness.
@mukeshdang31383 ай бұрын
reflexes getting better and better,with coordination that is called thought.And reflexes themselves are development of senses.So it all boils down to senses.
@sapoty3 ай бұрын
What's the difference between a TV that is not on an active channel and that is on an active channel. The latter has pixels that are structured in relation to each other and the picture has meaning. Similarly structure between neurons provides meaning and the more the structure and neurons the greater the meaning. The structure is created by 'machine learning'. The interaction between structures creates flow of information just like the flow of pictures on a TV screen. There are many screens in the brain: enough to fool us that consciousness is more than a trip to the cinema.
@JonathanSigwart4 ай бұрын
Is this saying that consciousness is a emergences of physical properties or that consciousness is some something separate from matter
@Zach-h9k3 ай бұрын
It's saying there r different schools of thought. Some think it's only a result of physical matter. Some say matter is a result of consciousness. Ect.
@JensTLarsen5 күн бұрын
What if a new kind of counciousness are emerging as we as a species are becomming increasingly complex and intertwined
@mrnoblemonkey84014 ай бұрын
It seems we are finally starting to understand the dao.
@mackroscopik3 ай бұрын
I don't think so. Our ancient ancestors seemed to understand it more than we currently do because they had less materialism as competition
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
@@mackroscopik 😂😂😂 no they didn't. They were trying to guess. We have evidence
@mackroscopikАй бұрын
@@KateeAngel they were experiencing dream walking, the dao,The Dreaming, Shunyata, Nibbana, Clear Light consciousness directly, which is the only way to subjectively verify it. They did this for thousands of years. It was the basis of shamanism, vipissana and shamatha...
@mackroscopikАй бұрын
@@KateeAngel Dzogchen is direct experience, not guessing. All traditions based on Lucid Dream and trance states are direct experience.
@dougmills33804 ай бұрын
If energy can carry information then why would we not think of that as possibly being conscious too
@Naidu-k8m4 ай бұрын
Our brains are the microbial version of our universe in microbial parts per brain. That's how the universe is using humans to recreate itself after it went KaBoom first, then Boom Bang a Bang.
@curthagenau78584 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@REDPUMPERNICKEL28 күн бұрын
15:38 How a self can be conscious of something... is not a physics problem. We have long been quite knowledgeable of the physical activity going on in brains but no one has come up with an interpretation of that physical activity that when explained to and understood by any interested listener, gives every listener the sure and certain belief that they understand everything worth knowing about the relationship between mind and matter and exactly how the self-being-conscious-process works. I wrote, "no one has come up with" but there may be an interpretation that I simply haven't found yet. I like the interpretation that says neural-discharge-timing-patterns in the brain are the means by which representations are encoded. Since every neuron in the brain maintains a neural-discharge-timing-pattern there exists a representation maintained by every neuron. Sooo... 86 billion representations! But so what? Where are the dynamics? Synapses are the means by which representations intermodulate. This intermodulation process is to what the word 'think' refers. Now one of those representations is kind of special for among all the representations, it is the only one that represents its self. That it represents its self is the reason we refer to it as 'the self'. When other representations modulate the self the label for what is going on is the self-being-conscious-process. Since both 'representation' and 'process' are abstract entities the self and its being-conscious-process must have abstract natures. Being abstract would certainly account for the immaterial seeming of our thoughts and selfs.
@joeolson608522 күн бұрын
Would there even be a universe without consciousness. I don’t think so !
@Disculogic22 күн бұрын
We don't know, obviously. My guess: Absolutely!
@keiwo_tritiyos_muketo3 ай бұрын
Found the word panpsychism a year or so ago after reaching that conclusion on my own using logic and rationale many many years ago... I get the small amount of experience in a particle.
@josephszot55453 ай бұрын
Consciousness is life force the Brain is how the consciousness functions in the physical, if the brain is damaged or unconscious, The consciousness is still aware it can't contact on the physical level the brain isn't useable. But conscious is perfectly fine. The conscious can depart the puppet, like exiting a car. The puppet brain is now dead and starting to decay back to atoms (nothingness) Reality is mental, thoughts, awareness, knowledge total SATIFACTION!!
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
No evidence that consciousness is separate from brain. Plenty evidence that it comes from the brain.
@josephszot5545Ай бұрын
@@KateeAngel Out of body experience is very informational,
@jaredwolfe40423 ай бұрын
The answers to your opening questions: consciousness originates from contact between sense organs and sense objects. There is the internal organ, external object and contact between the two. If you are born without eyes it will not be possible for eye consciousness to arise in your awareness. All beings that have a physical form experience the same consciousness as humans to the extent that their form contains sense organs.
@olwynnsay2372 ай бұрын
I find that quantum physics strongly points to consciousness as the driving force. The double slit experiment is very interesting.
@Disculogic2 ай бұрын
"Consciousness & quantum mechanics" will be a separate episode.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
No, it does NOT. Stop misinterpreting quantum mechanics. First of all, it is any interaction with larger object which counts as "observation" in quantum mechanics, it doesn't have to be a being with perceprion. A molecule can be a so called "observer". Second, there are multiple interpretations of quantum mechanics and almost no physicist thinks Copenhagen interpretation describes the reality, it is just easy to use for calculations
@olwynnsay237Ай бұрын
@@KateeAngel you should watch Dean Radin videos and read his books. He has done lots of experiments that shows the mind has an influence over double-slit outcomes and others. He was involved in the Stargate project.
@gregdewitt3284 ай бұрын
Both are arising from each other reverse ouroboros style, the arising isn’t important part the communication between physical and metaphysical. I’m thinking microtubles scale fractally downwards to a quantum scale and eventually meet the probability/actuality peripheral where they meet and crash into a space like a shoreline where part of the microtuble is riding the peripheral coming in and out of physical definite reality and hypothetical metaphysical both sides vibrating information infinitely subtly from the metaphysical side back and vice versa. So it’s chicken and egg mind brings rise to brain to bring rise to mind to bring rise to brain
@TabSmith-xl9fq4 ай бұрын
Am I the only one watching the visuals see double? I do this alot like the old pictures your look at to see the real picture
@SixTimesNine4 ай бұрын
We hallucinate consciousness. It is an evolutionary extension of imagination. Clearly an advantage. One step beyond ‘there might be a tiger in that bush’.
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
I haven't completed my research on illusionism yet. I'll cover that later.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Certainly more in line with evidence than most of ideas here in the comments from dualists and esoteric woo woo believers
@REDPUMPERNICKEL28 күн бұрын
13:47 Conscious beings began to exist only with the invention of the concept of the self. Once the concept of a self becomes implanted in a brain it sprouts into what we mean by 'a self' and since it is a self and only a self who is conscious, find out when the concept of self was first invented and you will discover when conscious beings began to exist. Wouldn't you agree that it is your self who is conscious of something?
@zeroonetime3 ай бұрын
All I.S. switching the 010 T.E.N. The Eternal Now dimensions, where everything begins and ends all at 01nce.
@Saa428084 ай бұрын
The man was sleeping and became immediately self aware when was told that he just got robbed.
@tubeyou86233 ай бұрын
Consciousness first and then we humans, not the other way around. We came to existence out of consciousness, we didn't create consciousness.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Yeah because consciousness evolved earlier. Many other animals are conscious too
@scottnorvell29553 ай бұрын
No mention of Analytic Idealism? It’s the most likely solution to consciousness and doesn’t get a mention. Strange. Tom Campbell, Donald Hoffman, Bernardo Kastrup and numerous other leaders in the field of consciousness study are proponents of Analytic Idealism and not one word of it. The production was excellent and it did a great job of explaining IIT and Panpsychism but what a big miss to skip over the most likely theory.
@DilekTuran-g9f2 ай бұрын
thankyou
@Disculogic2 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@ecelsozanato56034 ай бұрын
A drop of water knows how to behave like a drop of water 💧, it isn’t necessary for a human to teach it. A kitty that never saw an adult cat knows that it has to bury its poop. Who taught a knitting bird how to knit its nest?
@ckyung13123 ай бұрын
We are not a drop in an ocean. We are the ocean in a drop.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Meaningless phrases don't make you wise
@ChaseVotaw3 ай бұрын
Listen to it at 1.5x speed
@julenrojo46244 ай бұрын
Idealism non dualist us missed here.
@Nightscape_4 ай бұрын
Bummer you were forced to delete all your videos.
@Disculogic4 ай бұрын
They're not deleted, just unlisted.
@dougmills33804 ай бұрын
The day man starts incorporating metaphysics in their sciences mankind will progress in one decade more than all the other centuries combined.... Paraphrasing NIKOLA TESLA!!!!!
@simoneerceg71164 ай бұрын
We only percieve all that manifests within 3D and think thats All there is. Existence of All that is arises out of conciousness. Everything has an aspect of consciousness because it was created from within that.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
No evidence for that. Deny the physical reality, and sooner or later it will get to you
@elitezero2k4 ай бұрын
Farsi English accent hitting hard 😂
@AB-ee5tb3 ай бұрын
All your old videos are gone 😢
@Disculogic3 ай бұрын
They're unlisted, but no need to cry. I'm working on remakes. The next two videos will most likely be post-eternity episodes (if you can remember them), this time better visuals, and more comprehensive research 😎
@AB-ee5tb3 ай бұрын
@@Disculogic you just made my weekend sir 🙏🏼
@markmartin22924 ай бұрын
Consciousness is just awareness of location. If you put someone in a sensory deprivation tank eventually they go mad. Continuity is just a narrative that changes from day to day.
@JonathanSigwart4 ай бұрын
So is this saying that there is a consciousness universe
@terryrogers46388 күн бұрын
Physicalism-to them it's the only thing that matters! 😂
@petertremblay37253 ай бұрын
Searching for consciousness in the brain is like searching for fish in the desert...
@REDPUMPERNICKEL2 ай бұрын
Not at all. Fish can be found in the desert, especially in places like Japan. Fish can even be found in the dessert (but mostly in oases).
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Funny cause there are fish in the deserts. Seems like zoology knowledge of dualists is as bad as your neurobiology knowledge
@domingosmsande9153Ай бұрын
Consciousness, which is life itself, which is existence itself, cannot be measured. Body and thought evidently have no life-conscoiusness of themselves. The infinite consciousness activates them. Creation can only be produced by something which is alive, that is, consciousness. We are essentially consciousness, which has no beginning and no end. It is timeless. All the creations of life-consciousness have their beginning and their end, like the waves in the ocean. Here and now we are the basis of all phenomena. "Turn your attention to consciousness" say the sages of India. Pay attention to "your" consciousness and from consciousness look at the whole creation. You are already doing that. Consciousness is the Truth. All phenomena is illusory, in the sense that phenomena depend on consciousness, whereas consciouness doesn't depend on its creation. The waves depend on the ocean, but the ocean doesn't depend on its waves. The waves are the "play" of the ocean. "Illusion" literally means "to play". The etymological meaning of the sanskrit word "maya" is "to measure". We are living in an illusion if we take our measurements as the beings and things in themselves. The concept I have about a bird doesn't fly and doesn't sing. The nature of the waves is the ocean. What you really are is the totality of life. You don't have to believe in this. You are consciousness. See it. Seeing it is being it.
@frialsharefabdo77152 ай бұрын
💚💚💚🙏🙏🙏
@ALavin-en1kr3 ай бұрын
The problem with materialism is that it posit one dimension only; the elemental or material one. The truth is there are three dimensions: Causal; (ideas); Astral (energy); physical; (elements). If materialists can get past their limited perspective consciousness would no longer be the hard problem. They would understand there are three dimensions not just one: Thee separate dimensions; Consciousness; Mind; Elemental.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
😂😂😂😂 all of that is blatantly anti-scientific. Even the use of the word "dimension". And yeah "astral". Tell me you believe esoteric bs instead of empirical evidence without telling me. "Energy" is a physical term. Energy can be thermal, chemical etc. It is not something separate from the physical. Any other use of the word "energy" is esoteric pseudo scientific woo woo
@ALavin-en1krАй бұрын
@@KateeAngel Explain consciousness ‘the hard problem’ for philosophy and explain mind, is it elemental emerging with quantum events and if so, why are the elements at different densities; mind at one, matter at another? And magnetism what exactly is it?
@bigpicture33 ай бұрын
If consciousness can exist independent of the physical body, then it can be inferred that it does not originate on the brain. (in biology) This line of reasoning would imply that the brain is only the electrical device by which the body is animated. Something like the fly by wire airplanes, or self driving cars, there is the "hardware" that takes the electrical signals, and sends out the commands to move physical things, and then there is the "software" behind that hardware that modulates the electricity. (that would equate to what is termed "consciousness") So to determine the "origin" and the "mechanisms" of consciousness, it is things like NDEs that need to be studied. And determined what exactly they are, and why does the "conscious experience" appear to be outside of the body?? And by the defination of "death", no heart pulse, and no brain electrical activity, is the body really dead during that experience??? None of this "speculation" crap about cells and oxygen deprivation and cell memory and crap. (1) Is the body really dead, by there own "scientific??" defination??? (2) Is there verifiable evidence that there was still an existing "consciousness"??? Like a dead person being able to relay conversations and events in the room where the body is, while supposedly dead??? And all such a study would do is to end the endless argument about "does consciousness need biology to be aware"??? YES or NO?? The debate cannot move forward without knowing that!!!!
@pravdaseed643 ай бұрын
💜☸️☯️☸️💜 💙 Thanks 💙
@PatrickHayes-j2p3 ай бұрын
😮
@RushikeshA1-xp5dk4 ай бұрын
#rushikeshasurlekar Very informative video , brain and system Like real universe but it's not real universe , real universe is huge and in infinite space .
@REDPUMPERNICKEL28 күн бұрын
13:17 As to how 'consciousness' comes into being is a bad assumption.
@felixvandriem15153 ай бұрын
Consciousness is all there is, ever was or ever will be. There is nothing physical and spacetime is an illusion.
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
😂😂😂 Blatant anti-scientific and anti-common sense bs
@joshwright22864 ай бұрын
Fuckin love it
@deianj23 күн бұрын
Keep the original voice naration please.
@Disculogic22 күн бұрын
I will.
@deianj22 күн бұрын
@@DisculogicYou must know Isac Arthur. The man embraced his way of speaking and improved on it. It adds personality.
@Disculogic22 күн бұрын
@@deianj I'm an old and loyal follower of his work. I was one of the followers who screamed in the comments "Please keep using your own voice" when he was thinking about not narrating anymore. Yes, it adds personality, and as a follower you want the creator/writer to narrate his own work. That's how I felt towards his channel.
@SeiroosFardipour-wf4bi4 ай бұрын
We do not know what matter IS all we experiences it is a subjective manifestation of matterthink of it this way imagine these tow forms of responed ( i do not MIND & it does not MATTER )
@kevinhardy89973 ай бұрын
My guess is you need a way to store and retrieve zeroes and ones. However the brain might use more numbers. Perhaps neurons store information in numbers of branches? Certain protiens? Ions?
@KateeAngelАй бұрын
Zeroes and ones? The information doesn't have to be digital. In fact information in the brain is almost certainly not only digital. Brains are not computers
@pravdaseed642 ай бұрын
👉 will you please Stop the Monsanto noise = music! @ the back ground