The Mystery of the Tatra Mountains

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On a summer morning in 1925, a Polish family set out on a planned hike through one of the country’s picturesque mountainous regions. Beset by uncharacteristically poor weather conditions, what happened to them next remains unexplained to this day. Join us this week, as we delve into, the mystery of the Tatra Mountains.
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[@diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754]

Wait what!? Is already Christmas!?

[@95kolman]

Wow. I didn't thought that there will be episode about my country's mountain. Good job. I hope that there will be more episode about my country's mysteries.

[@jasonswearingin1009]

Really enjoy these stories. Must also say I really like the charcoal style illustrations involved with these stories. Who ever does the artwork is incredible. Please don't change that illustration style it goes well with the story telling and helps to reinforce the mysterious sometimes other worldly mood.

[@historywatch-4U]

I love how you guys have been putting in small animated bits.

[@danhaigh732]

How do you know he had never felt more alive?

[@anon3336]

I was up in the Tatra Mountains with two friends this summer. It is a super beautiful area, but as with all such mountain areas one should be really careful not to be too ambitious with the route one chooses. The route we intended to go turned up to be closed for descend in the direction we were heading, so we had to choose an alternative route. This one turned out to be much much longer than we anticipated, and none of us, especially my female friend, were super good with traversing that kind of terrain. At the same time the weather changed suddenly, starting to rain and thunder, making it semi dangerous to climb on the mountain. We were all beyond exhausted when we finally made it back to the starting point, and I am just happy that nothing bad happened which it easily could have.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

no shit. nature's a bitch

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 nope, nature is a noble and beautiful Madam but for the love of your life... she deserves respect! those who do not respect her, who mess with her in an overconfident manner, ...die...

[@dvjfredmerc529]

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 I commend you on your choice of names…I actually LOL’d at the mental picture it instantly gave me! Well done 🤣

[@tamcon72]

I passed though those mountains many years ago, in the spring, but it was still like winter there. Though beautiful, they are eerie because they are surrounded by habitations and highways, which conceal a strangely inhospitable aspect from the tourist.

[@guaporeturns9472]

Always trek prepared , even when on small trips bring basic stuff. Water , warm , dry cloths , flashlight , fire starting stuff , knife , food. ALWAYS!!

[@5amH45lam]

Can we just stop, give a nod in the direction of, and props to, the man who over-hears a missing family's - and total stranger's - plight, in a tavern, only for him to mount his own rescue mission the next day? Brig. Gen. Zaruski, I salute you, sir.

[@stevieb6173]

couldn't agree more 👍👍

[@briansmith8749]

Absolutely. Not enough of those people around.

[@randyross5630]

Lame... Now Major General Robert Ross was the Stuff of Legends, with some real Swagger, like that time he defied the Kings Orders, marched to DC, like a Gentleman sat down to Dinner at the White House, than burnt that Mitch to the Ground! Like a Ross!

[@alexzed8510]

Bartender: A family has gone missing in the mountains! Polish General: So? Not my problem. Bartender: They’ve probably got alcohol. Polish General: I’m on my way! Note: I am myself of Polish ancestry and just joking around.

[@jackdare]

NO! Must. Listen. Now. * totally agree I'm just a mouthy arse ;P

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We have very similar subs fellow prepper!

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@@AlexT-md9df That's awesome!

[@Digidi4]

we used to visit the tatras when I was a kid with my parents and as an adult I went there a few times by myself, and I always had an ominous feeling while hiking there once I went to the "Great Hincovo Tarn" and the next day I heard on the news that a guy fell and died not far from where I was, it still gives me chills when I think about it

[@ontherims3284]

I went swimming at the holiday Inn once, only to find out hours later someone crapped in the pool.. I still get chills thinking about it.. Like, what if.. I was in the pool when it happened?!. Thank God I listened to my magic 8ball that day.

[@Digidi4]

@@ontherims3284 lol scary stuff indeed

[@cactuslietuva]

Been to Tatra mountains once. Was pretty fun time. Pretty easy hikes tbh.

[@andrewmckeown6786]

"On the rims"😂😂😂 Im dead

[@BENTLEYQUAMP]

Wait, if her husband died in her arms, how did he end up face up on top of the boulder??

[@BedtimeStoriesChannel]

I think the boulder was probably smaller in height than our artist drew, like a thick boulder field on the shore of a lake. There is sometimes some miscommunication between artwork and writing 😂

[@BENTLEYQUAMP]

Oh, ok. Thank you.

[@bloodyneptune]

But she said the other two were sitting next to each other but were found at separate boulders. Its a but suss that _all_ the body positions were wrong

[@Clemppu]

@@bloodyneptune According to Waleria's story she remained with the dead bodies for almost two days after the deaths. Little creepy when you think about it... but in theory she had lots of time to move the bodies to any position she wanted. Question is why would she do that? Very weird mystery indeed.

[@nono-fb8tr]

@@Clemppu Not creepy at all. Dead people aren't creepy, they're just dead. Then the question why would she do that? It's her fucking child. Of course she wouldn't leave her baby until she absolutely had to. Secondly, the first thing you're taught in wilderness survival is STAY IN PLACE!! WAIT FOR RESCUE!! She didn't do anything wrong.

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[@jasonpratt5126]

I kept waiting for the narration to notice that the bodies were found in positions and conditions that didn't really match up with Waleria's account. Granted she still has no motive, ultimately, but that discrepancy would seem suspicious.

[@marhawkman303]

@@osakarose5612 Yeah this definitely has missing info. But, given the circumstances... It's workable that Waleria was simply inexact in what she said, and not necessarily incorrect. Perhaps she tried to help her husband become more comfortable? Thus while he was dying she helped him stagger to a rock that he laid out on when he finally died? What I'm really wondering though.... a possibility that, as someone with first aid training, I think of that she probably lacked the training to even consider... were they dead when she left them laying in the snow? Is it possible they might have recovered if she'd wrapped them in blankets? I dunno. :/

[@crazysilly2914]

@@osakarose5612 she probably moved them after their deaths as she was mourning them….

[@thebrocialist8300]

@@osakarose5612 Classic Polish investigation🤤

[@timothyhyena3106]

She does if she ain't human. An aspect we would never ever consider. They were human she wasn't. They live... (Gangstalking 101)

[@marhawkman303]

@@timothyhyena3106 interesting hypothesis. supporting evidence? :D

[@Sinistercabbage]

If you are discussing Poland you've got to cover the UFO crash in Gdynia or the Emilcin abduction. Would be great if you did

[@LatherScreamRinse]

Ooh, yes! Would love to hear this.

[@paulmcadam6825]

Yes please!

[@stopasking8139]

Wow! Those sound interesting as hell!

[@paulbegley1464]

Poland has its own Roswell ? Never heard of it. Sounds very interesting.

[@Sinistercabbage]

@@paulbegley1464 Its quite interesting. A lot of countries have such stories. But America has very strong pop culture so naturally their stories are far more popular.

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[@imyourcuzn1997]

Had a horrible day😔..i needed this. Thanks for the upload

[@mongojrttv]

Sorry CuZn I hope things get better for you soon

[@imyourcuzn1997]

@@mongojrttv thanks alot... Really appreciate

[@alexandriaocasio-smollett5078]

What a fascinating story. You guys did a great job with it as usual. But there is a part of this story that I am honestly rather surprised wasn’t explored at all, despite to me seeming like it is very deserving of some deeper exploration. I am referring to Wasserberger.. His role in the story was kind of glossed over despite being rather confusing about why he chose to do what he did. Why did he choose to leave his three companions in order to join the party of the husband and wife and child? What was it that made him feel compelled to do that despite not knowing them at all apparently? What is his background? Did he have any connections to any of the three members of that family? I’m not saying he did it. But I’m just stunned that it wasn’t mentioned or explored at all. Especially considering the fact that he wasn’t even with them. But then decided to leave the group he went with initially in order to “help“ people he’s never met before. Bizarre.

[@stephaniest.5336]

Instances like this story of people going up into the mountains only for members of a specific biological sex being affected are not rare. I had a friend who used to tell me of their travels in the Balkan Mountains. She said they began their hike to one of the mountain peaks - Botev. However, the more they climbed up higher the more something odd began to happen to her and her mother. Both began to feel tired and weak for no apparent reason (both are in peak physical condition and experienced hikers). Her father, displayed no such signs of weakness. Once they started making their ascend to the peak, during the last 10 metres it was as if something kept making them weaker and weaker. To the point that they could no longer move. The most bizarre part was that as soon as they decided to head back, the reverse effect happened.

[@christophermikiewicz7083]

I think that might just be high altitude acclimation, where your body needs to spend time to adjust to the lower levels of oxygen in higher atmospheres, it's fairly common for hikers and mountaineers to get much better in just a few hours after descending from where they were and staying there for a short while. It can be extremely dangerous though, as when you reach the point when your body can't take enough oxygen to move like your friend did, it can be extremely difficult to get back down without someone helping you which could potentially cause a chain reaction of them also getting tired and weakened, which could lead to you all just dying if the weather and temperature was too inhospitable. Her dad might've gone mountaineering before and was already used to it or is just physically fit or something I guess.

[@wolffweber7019]

Great job as usually, Bedtime Stories. BTW General Mariusz Zaruski was a great, extraordinary person. Sadly, he perished at the onset of WW2.

[@warhawkjah]

Not a doctor but I know booze can sometimes exacerbate hypothermia. The alcohol can make you feel warmer and prevent frostbite, but that same effect makes hypothermia worse.

[@noelienoelie8425]

They give brandy to people but it's usually as they're being rescued. Ever noticed a Beethovin dog carry a little barrel of brandy around its neck.

[@marksark1119]

Interesting story as always due to the writing of Simon Andrews. A nod to the fantastic drawing by Mikey Turcanu which drew me in from the start. And of course Richard While the voice of the story. Well done, all of you in the production of "Bedtime Stories". I will say that while the other 2 men drank of the hip flask; the boy ate of a candy bar. So, that shoots that theory down right there.✌

[@cappadocius9379]

All of them dieing of the exact same thing and time seems like poison to me.

[@YaNevrNo]

What an obscure and enthralling tale. I cannot think of many other Podcasters that would even know to cover this. Thank you.

[@samuelfunket]

i am from slovakia so i must watch this

[@Nerwik]

I love hiking through Tatra mountains yet I never heard this story. Thanks for bringing this story up :)

[@saverns]

Why killed hey own son.? Heard and watched many Dateline stories of dad killing his sons and exwife, mom killed her husband and exhusbands, got caught trying to kill her own daughter. Mother killing their own children. All the time. And most of this is for money. Very sad, unfortunate and disgusting. This world we live in. Thanks for another awesome video!

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I love your videos keep it up...

[@missarose6159]

Haven't even heard the story and already popping in a like. LOVE YOU GUYS

[@Shaadd00]

We need more videos, guys...

[@moonchow666]

My first thought when watching this was maybe the three died from poisonous gas like hydrogen sulfide. It doesn’t take much of that to kill. It’s heavier than air so it’s possible that the three who died might’ve done something as simple as bend down while walking through it; the husband was already weak and stopping to clear his glasses and the child was probably shorter. Admittedly there’s a lot we don’t know and even that explanation raises questions but it was my immediate thought.

[@garyreid6165]

A truly challenging mystery. One worthy to be featured in an episode of C.S.I. Crime Scene Investigation or Criminal Minds. Or a stand alone motion picture. My first thought had to be altitude sickness or thin air. These would fall under ASM. The woman might have a physical condition that aided her in her survival since it is known that women have a high pain tolerance/threshold. She gave her son some chocolate. That can’t be tainted. Another theory is that they had breakfast before starting out. Could that meal have been poisoned? Not likely. Three male victims. One female survivor. One unsolved mystery. Great narration and artwork as always. Have a happy, healthy, safe, sane, prosperous and blessed holiday season. Looking forward to watching more Bedtime Stories episodes next year.

[@schnetzelschwester]

No mystery: The men and the boy just died of hypothermia. Women have more isolating fat beneath their skin and can stand lower temperatures than men or children. Furthermore, if one has hypothermia and drinks alcohol, the veins in his limbs widen out and he loses even more body warmth. That amount of lost warmth may just have been the difference between life and death. Never ever give alcohol to someone with hypothermia! If somebody with severe hypothermia is moved, the cold blood in his limbs flows into his heart, and he is instantly killed by shock. That were exactly the symptoms found at the autopsy. Mountain rescuers should know that.

[@userequaltoNull]

Yeah, that seems pretty likely. A lot of the "mysteries" on this channel have pretty mundane explanations.

[@noelienoelie8425]

Lol. Nobody said anything about hypothermia, and It's you can't fast heat someone with hypothermia. If you can't move someone with hypothermia how can you rescue them. And you shouldn't put any stock in a 50s east European autopsy. For all we actually know it was the stazi knocking off some bad apples. (not communists)

[@noelienoelie8425]

@@userequaltoNull Only the woman had hypothermia. And that was only because she sat with her dead son for 2 days. The autopsy (if you believe it) said they died of pulmonary adima caused by the altitude.

[@chaoticprime]

What the heck even was that? That was about nothing.

[@MoriShep]

I was just watching some of my fav viods and this poped up, finished my skinwalker rewatch and jumped right over always amazing content,

[@cassiecannon2676]

Here from Mr Ballen suggesting this channel. Awesome story

[@musical_pumpkin1123]

Much love, I adore your guy's content. Speaking as a writer of course. Keep it coming

[@rgonzalez1481]

Excellent narration! Thank you!

[@OmniOtaku]

Did the son get cognac as well as chocolate or just chocolate? Bc that pokes a hole in the theory of poisoning if the son didn’t get alcohol.

[@filmandfirearms]

A disappearance in 1925 Poland? Most likely the Soviets were involved. Wasn't exactly a peaceful time for Poland

[@JakubW.]

Tatras were almost as far west you could get in Poland from border with Soviets in 1925. And since Treaty of Riga (1921) Poland was at peace with Soviets and only really minor border skirmishes were fought. So for sure no Soviets involved. Even more - this all took place on the Czechoslovak side of Tatras.

[@nocturnalg7891]

good story 11/10, will recommend to people who like this kind of stuff

[@Nothingnessvibes]

It’s the tree’s, they somehow emit some type of contaminant that affects people like the movie the happen and my point slightly gets stronger as they were travelling all in a group. Substances known as Phytoncides and Terpines, these can be extremely common with spruces, Cedars and pine trees

[@lordbeerus4443]

I love 💘 Bedtime Stories. The more horrifiic or bizarre... The better I sleep. I really like the "Kentucky Goblin, and Skinwalker Ranch Stories." Thanks for all you do.

[@alecleeburn3619]

Ahh another awesome video please keep up the good work

[@theheretic6739]

This is a case of bad AMS gone wrong. That afternoon black cloud like thing that descends from icy mountains freezing streams and such is very bad. The wife was found in hypothermia and might have died if not have been discovered in time. The male members were over stressed which aggravated the AMS. The father and son had heart conditions - the seasoned mountaineer had to haul the son in that cold and dizzying low oxygen environment. Alcohol may keep warm but it dehydrates the body too which was already suffering loss of minerals due to icy and moist exterior - high osmotic region to low osmotic environment. Its never good to brave mountains without preparation and to keep alternatives if the usual route chokes up.

[@Ruda-n4h]

The worst thing you can do with a person that is suffering from cold is to give them alcohol especially if they haven't eaten for a while. It causes the blood vessels to rise up to the skin and expel heat that can then cause hyperthermia.

[@Jaker2123]

I thought I seen all of your episodes … not complaining … just excited

[@adzilabidin6136]

I was expecting monsters or mysteries but instead got an important info about AMS.... Thanks Bedtime Story 👍

[@hg1651]

Damn right it’s that time !

[@thedisabledwelshman9266]

brilliant as always.

[@marjorieallworth6172]

I wonder what if anything is beneath the pond ?

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

this really reminds me of the khamar daban incident. everyone except one person just rapidly died, shortly after someone started disturbing the ground. one theory is that chemical weapons tests might have been conducted in the area, that the soil absorbed volatile toxic chemicals and they were liberated when the hikers disturbed the ground. another theory is that there were just natural poisons present there. I find both theories a little silly, since there's no evidence of either of those things. but the way the story happens, it seems plausible. I feel like if something mundane like chemical weapons or poisonous mushrooms (or poisoned cognac) caused these incidents, there should be clear physical evidence to that effect. but we have to face the unbelievable, frustrating fact that police never bothered to even look for evidence that would prove or disprove these theories. so the lack of evidence can't be taken as evidence that something supernatural happened. it's right that they remain unsolved, and probably never will be solved unless something very similar happens in the future, and people actually have the will to demand an inquest. the lack of foul play really shouldn't matter. police are meant to investigate crime, sure, but if the police don't investigate these things, nobody else will. I mean, people will try, but they aren't qualified and don't have access to the evidence. police are the first on scene, and if they don't see evidence of foul play, they basically lift all the evidence from the scene and either destroy it or file it away. so even if independent investigators want to investigate it, they can't, because all the evidence is gone. nobody can test the soil and find out if it was contaminated. and if something like this happens again, the police will just blow it off again because whatever is causing it doesn't look enough like foul play. the sad part is that it could be something much more dangerous and urgent than ordinary foul play. it sounds silly, but given the total lack of physical evidence, who can say that it isn't some kind of interdimensional predator killing humans for sport?

[@noelienoelie8425]

All of them minus the surviver had eaten wild mushrooms in the hours proceeding the incident. I believe that this was the cause.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

@@noelienoelie8425 you got a source for that? i'm aware that people theorized that they may have eaten something poisonous but i don't recall any testimony or physical evidence to that effect.

[@AppalachianHistoryDetectives]

The Brandy was toxic and killed the three. The wife never drank it and was fine. Maybe the answer is too obvious.

[@noelienoelie8425]

He does say she only gave the boy chocolate but later says all 3 had drank. So she poisoned the brandy.

[@anonymoususer7240]

could you please include the year that these stories take place at the start of the video

[@cassandramorgana4707]

Just to say guys i already was in zakopane since my wife is polish and i can tell u it was the most beautifull thing i ever saw in my life and bedtime stories u are my favorite KZbin chanel...and im seeing u from portugal...big hugs keep your great work

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

For a minute there.. I really thought you said Tetras mountains.. which reminded me of the game 😆

[@Angel-fz8dr]

Just in time, guys. Thank you!

[@johnytwotimes4072]

It's Bedtime in South Georgia LET'S GO......to sleep 😂😴💤

[@joanhoffman3702]

I’m going to paraphrase a statement I read about the sea: Nature is not inherently cruel, but it is unkind. If you are unprepared for where you are going, bad things can happen. Be prepared, or you may end up the subject of a KZbin video, and nobody wants that. Seriously, enjoy the outdoors and stay safe while doing so.

[@barr65]

In 1944, a man named Anthony Horak may or may not have discovered a derelict UFO in the Tatra Mountains.

[@ferror5985]

rip wasserberger who gave his life to help a struggling family

[@andrescientos]

This story reminds me of that snapchat developer that died along and his family and along with their dog on a trail somewhere in Cali.

[@BMazeing]

My first thought was digitalis poisoning, but I'm not certain that can cause adema

[@imightbeaz]

Perfect timing.

[@hyperstar1867]

It’s possible the three guys went off to try find food, found something poisonous and ate it, the woman may have not gone with them, it only takes a couple of minutes for something like that to happen. And some natural poisons only take a few hours to leave the system.

[@debbiehenri345]

Wasn't there a story about an (all male) crew of sailors whose ship sank, were picked up alive out of the freezing North Sea, wrapped in blankets, and seemed to be doing okay - until they were given an alcoholic drink (brandy or whiskey, something like that), whereupon the whole lot of them dropped dead? Seems to me that alcohol might do something really fast inside a body when it's below a critical temperature. Evidently, alcohol under such circumstances needs more research!

[@noelienoelie8425]

They've been giving brandy for hundreds of years. Even those mountain shepherd dogs carry brandy in a little bottle around they're necks.

[@JChris143]

yay!!!

[@PedanticGaming]

Believe it or not, this was not the first time Mariusz Zaruski had rescued a lone female survivor of a lost party in the Tatra mountains. In 1914 he led a rescue party that saved Maria Bandrowski, after she had lost her brother and his fiancee to a fall. I feel Wasserberger also deserves praise, his actions to help the family cost him his own life.

[@thebrocialist8300]

Sounds like foul play

[@DnBastard]

Bandrowska* Ski is male ska is female

[@malachisguides]

I'm starting to think he makes them go missing now

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

@@malachisguides Highly unlikely.

[@TatraScrambler]

You must be referring to the Drege Couloir tragedy in the Granaty massif.

[@necrophadian]

one thing i like about bedtime stories is that they treat the unfortune people caught in these events with a degree of respect and consolation.

[@LadyHeathersLair]

Amen

[@EphemeralProductions]

Indeed. ❤️❤️❤️

[@pollypockets508]

That's true

[@TimPerfetto]

Who cares

[@nathanpulliam4013]

So we should give respect too people who do something stupid

[@thegoldenorder1240]

If this show was on Netflix, it would absolutely explode. Nothing comes close to its originality or attention to detail. Bravo 👏

[@jameshoops10]

hold on im a let you finish but bob gymlan has the most original channel and attention to detail on youtube

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Both Bedtime Stories and Bob Gymlan are fantastic. I also love Beyond Creepy, Paranormal Junkie, Strange But True Stories, Top 5, Scary Mysteries, Destination Declassified, Missing Persons Mysteries and The Wisconsin Files.

[@AzizAziz-lc2qk]

@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 also Slapped ham is a good one.

[@thegoldenorder1240]

@@jameshoops10 Bob's channel is maybe a fifth of the quality and actually changed more to bedtime stories format a year after BDS launched.

[@BMazeing]

I gotta say tho, the quality of Bedtime Stories and Bob Gymlan is amazing, and the exact reason why Netflix should never have the opportunity to ruin it like they do everything else

[@ninavale.]

I have never, ever heard of this story in my life and I live in Poland...then again in a completely different region than Tatras are in. It's over 4 hours drive from my city(372km/231.15 miles). We have a different mountain chain closer tho and that's where people go for weekend trips. Tatras is more like Winter Break/Vacation place. It is picturesque tho...I've got to agree. Air is certainly a bit cleaner up top.

[@reiraghoul4696]

Tatry są piękne ale też zawsze mnie przerażają, pewnie przez tą pustkę i uczucie, że całe góry cię obserwują.

[@qdn7720]

Polecam film o tym na kanale szczytomaniak

[@P.K.Veiller]

I never did too even when I am interested in paranormal and weirdness since beeing a kid.

[@peger]

Na kryminatorium wcześniej o tym usłyszałem.

[@johnjephcote7636]

@@reiraghoul4696 'całe góry cię obserwują'...To szczera prawda, nieprawdaż? Są Śpiący Rycerze którzy pozostają pod Giemontem, od czasów Bolesława I.

[@mirandagoldstine8548]

I have a theory: could it be possible the three victims accidentally drank tainted water from a stream or brackish pond? If the Tatra mountains had mining going on at the time there could have been runoff from hypothetical mines that got into the water or else some kind of algae. The three victims, wanting to refill empty canteens might have refilled from what they thought was clean water only to have it laced with heavy metals or algae blooms which affected all three victims. Depending on how much water they drank the father and son could have been the first and second victims due to their heart conditions with the third hiker being the last to finally pass away. After all it was noted he was in good health. Of course it could also be possible they accidentally consumed a poisonous fungi or berry. I’m not at all familiar with the Tatra mountain region (I’m from America) nor do I know a lot about what can cause the body to go into the state the victims were found in so if a person familiar with heart conditions and the Tatra mountains (specifically if there was ever any mining and what type of flora can be found in that area) that would be great.

[@stefanschleps8758]

Curiosity and intellect go hand in hand. I like the way you think.

[@mirandagoldstine8548]

@@stefanschleps8758 Thanks. I have a bit of knowledge on poisonous plants and fungi from my time in girl scots and where I lived in Connecticut my house was bordered by a park so I used to go hiking with my family through the nearby forest so I know a bit about fungi and berries. Unfortunately I don’t know if there were any tests developed around that time to pinpoint traces of heavy metals in the body because if it happened today in a forest that’s one of the first tests I would conduct. Depending on how much water they consumed (it was described as a summer day which means high heat so that means they probably consumed a ton of water which necessitated the refill of canteens) the heavy metals could have built up poisoning them and lead the three victims to their deaths. Of course this can also apply with the consumption of poisonous plants and fungi. There is a problem however: the third victim was an experienced hiker so he should have had knowledge of the local flora and fungi if he had hiked through that area a ton of times. I just think it was something in the water.

[@Midnight1138]

Yes, miners used a lot of quicksilver (mercury) back in the day. Poisoning could very well at least have contributed to their demise.

[@P.K.Veiller]

Well authopsy said there were no signs of poison and algae dont really bloom in Poland, especially at this altitude. The mining one could be more plausible but the problem with this theory is the fact how often the trail is and was taken by people, there would more than one case like this for sure, over the years. Mercury also dont usually give immidietly response.

[@mirandagoldstine8548]

@@Midnight1138 Interesting…the poisoning was the first theory that popped into my head. If Waleria didn’t drink as much or even any water from the refilled canteens then she was very fortunate.

[@Forsak3nBreed1982]

Reminds me of a 411 case where father and son got lost while hunting and the son became very weak for no reason then disappeared while his father was moving towards what he thought were headlights

[@crazysilly2914]

they should do a video about that

[@timothyhyena3106]

Yeah, very creepy.

[@MsKatjie]

I watched that piece. scary, murderously so. Lights, orbs' are NO good. Don't follow them; Min Min lights in the Boulia region, of Western Qld, Australia; is famed for these glowing orbs. People follow them and become lost easily, almost walk off creek banks and other potential misadventure. Crop circle formation and other high weirdness! So, so much out there. We are clearly not the dominant species on this planet! My one cent. Interesting story, very scary!

[@herluka]

I used to go to the Tatra mountains as a kid with my family and school. And back then, there were no mysteries as everything could be explained by tourists being ill-equipped or wearing flip-flops on a mountain hike 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@sparkspl]

słynne klapki:)

[@thefisherking78]

Hahaha

[@Matuss101]

and they are doing the same irresponsible things until to this very day

[@dan-iy5rs]

I saw the same in Tatra, sandals, flip flop.

[@las10plagas]

I would NEVER go there in flip flips or sandals... I go there barefoot 💪 and the sight of torn up, smelly feet, chased off all evil up there. TATRAs cleansed!

[@highdesert50]

Alcohol is a vasodilator. So, given they were likely dealing with hypothermia, the body restricts blood flow to the extremities to keep the core warmer. The alcohol reverses this process. She did not ingest the alcohol and it likely saved her life.

[@johnjephcote7636]

I remember reading with some disbelief the account in the book 'A Night to Remember'(by Walter Lord), in which the Titanic's baker, Johin(?), thoroughly "insulated" himself with spirits before calmly dropping into the freezing seawater. Apparently, he survived tho' my naval training taught me just how short a time one can last in water of that temperature combined with the deleterious effect of spirits!

[@TomSkinner]

This seems to me to be most likely. Missing a lot of details but the family was most likely ill-prepared, and not too fit. It has hypothermia written all over it.

[@marhawkman303]

@@johnjephcote7636 yeah, vasodilation can do weird shit. Your fingers feel warmer... because they are, but your core body temp is dropping.

[@MrThickDick]

Your mom is a vasodilator...

[@jpslayermayor9293]

This is most likely reason. The alcohol is the main variable between the male deaths and mother living. No mention of BMI and if the Mother were heavier with more insulating fat which is a characteristic of females compared to men, it may have reduced the hypothermia severity in her.

[@Rukasu.2603]

I'm from Poland and I were many times in Tatra with my parents and brothers. And I seriously never heard of this story. This gives me a little chill to my spine

[@slipstreamxr3763]

I'm American but my Maternal Grandfather's side of the family came from the Krakow/Tatras area.

[@AwSam14]

My thoughts also went to poison. One that can cause pulmonary edema, and isn’t easily traceable, is ricin. It can be faster acting if inhaled. There may have been some on their clothing, and also in the brandy. I’m not sure how to explain why the wife wasn’t affected, though.

[@retrospecative2454]

Cuz she killed them maybe

[@VetkinaOlga]

I'm sure it's mountains disease. This story has a carbon copy in the form of Hamar-Daban tragedy. It's eerily similair. Not very high mountains, shit weather, young and healthy men and women dying one by one in a span of minutes, the strongest and healthiest is the first to fall and die, only one woman is not affected and ends up being saved after a few days.

Snorting tobacco perhaps?

[@redeye4516]

This definitely lends credence to the idea that she killed them with poisoned cognac. If I'm not mistaken, this occured around the same time as the Hinterkaifek murders, and the police forensics on that were pretty appalling. I wouldn't be surprised if the Polish authorities just across the border and a mere 3 years later couldn't find traces of ricin that were present in the victim's bloodstream. The question is whether she knew or not. It could have been some kind of elaborate poisoning by a rival, but considering that it was her own flask, that she was the only one that didn't drink from it, and also shielded her rescuer from drinking from his canteen (it was his own, but in her confusion she may have mistaken it for her own cognac flask), it seems pretty likely that she knew what she was doing. Might have simply faked being depressed for a few years before she remarried.

[@amyrose2692]

You don’t have to poison alcohol in such icy conditions. Clearly people don’t understand you cannot drink alcohol in below freezing weather. It will absolutely kill you

[@Skullbee50cal]

it’s a tiredness that weighs heavy in the chest. It happened to me one time after losing my dirtbike in a valley and having to walk back to the road in full gear and misty wet conditions, with the sun going down . Near the top of the mountain ridge out of the valley I immediately became too tired to walk, then after sitting down in the mud I began to feel so tired I wanted to go to sleep. Every time I closed my eyes, mentally something was telling me it would only be a minute of rest, & I began to mentally freak out. kept Trying to wake up and keep my eyes open. It felt like I went from being okay, hiking steady to deathly intoxicated and wanting to blackout. After about what felt like an eternity of this struggle I crawled to my knees and then to my feet, and walking another 20 feet or so I felt normal again. Checked my phone & I had been there about 20 minutes. In another 100 feet I felt strong again and jogged the way down the other side of the mountain. I was a running athlete at the time this happened, I was well hydrated and I had been having healthy snacks all throughout the day. My gear wasn’t too heavy either about 30lbs total with boots, pack, helmet, clothing, water and snacks. You get so tired you can’t control yourself. I got my dirtbike back after a week, I double rode in with tools and fixed the problem. My bike is a 97 and it lost ignition from the conditions being too wet when the lighting coil wire got damaged and lost its water seal.

[@chemken4475]

I’ve heard multiple stories about strange tiredness coming over people

[@sticksnstonespatriot1728]

Very eloquently said.... I felt like i was there. You are a good story teller.

[@MrThickDick]

I thought you were gonna say when you looked down at your phone you felt like you had been walking for hours only to realize you had just ditched your dirt bike like five min earlier. Ha.

[@diskettejockey7829]

That’s crazy almost like something you can’t see trying to make you sleep

[@maximillian1109]

Heh, this is basically what depression feels like to me. I dunno how many times I have had to just lay down in the woods or on a small road while out and about with my dogs. Once I fell asleep in some tall grass while checking in on my horses. Luckily, I am much better now and not as exhausted nearly as often.

[@Armphid]

Interesting story. The injuries to the more experienced climber are the real thing that make it hard to just say hypothermia.

[@i.p.956]

This reminds me of that case in Russia where a group died after bleeding out suddenly, and only one member of the group survived.

[@steffipowell8950]

I immediately thought of that incident too. And the survivor was a female.

[@tsuss2205]

Can you give more info about it?

[@steffipowell8950]

@@tsuss2205 Its called the Korovina Incident or Kahmar Daban. Lots of videos YT

[@21macca21]

Khamar Daban

[@lillianbusch1710]

It sounds like the deaths may have been caused by high-altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE). Possibly, ascending to a high altitude, being exposed to severe weather, then descending again quickly while exerting themselves caused the rapid onset. Heart defects are also known to make individuals more susceptible to HAPE.

[@thecrepeofdeath]

I was going to say the experienced climber would know better, but then I remembered how many "expert" climbers die like this on everest. it's definitely possible

[@crazysilly2914]

I do not think that they were at high enough altitudes for that to happen, and since the family was traveling slowly, they were not ascending and descending fast enough for that to have happened anyway...

[@crazysilly2914]

Is HAPE similar to the Bends in that regard?

[@IamBlackToast]

Apparently, being male is also a factor in developing HAPE.

[@jpslayermayor9293]

@@crazysilly2914 High winds reduce ability of humans to absorb O2 and therefore increase the potential effects similar to HAPE

[@MedicMain9]

It looks awfully similar to that case in Russia, if I remember well, 3 out of 4 people died almost at the same time and in similar conditions. To this day no one knows exactly what happened, I used to think it was similar to the Diatlov Pass incident but now it looks like an exact copy of this polish tragedy.

[@Nyctophora]

I was thinking about that too. All three are very strange.

[@MedicMain9]

@@Nyctophora Some speculate that it was an experiment conducted by the Russian army and I think the same.

[@DanksterPaws]

What is the name of this incident?

[@oslo15]

@@DanksterPaws It was the Korovina Group, who died in near-identical circumstances in a place called Khamar Daban

[@AriAri-ko1ll]

Kasznica is actually pronouned 'cash-knee-tza', but other than that - another great episode

[@jdaniel3068]

I have gone thru BS library trying to find one I havent watched. Now I begin reruns. This content is part of my nightly falling-asleep routine.

[@zerocool5395]

I do the same thing, nothing creepy about going to sleep with this kind of stuff. I'm a regular Joe that would never do anything creepy to another human being.

[@quazink]

The story says he dropped to his knees by the frog pond and died and the other two guys died close by. Wasn't there a story about people and hundreds of sheep that died from co2 gas released from a nearby lake? They died within minutes. They have since found a way to place pipes into the lake and release the gas. Maybe the frog pond released co2 and the woman was just not close enough to be affected.

[@Xbob42]

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[@AnonYmous-np6jn]

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[@scottblack7182]

Ikr

[@glorbojibbins2485]

(when it's spooky content) Ah! Content! 👻

[@thedoruk6324]

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[@randyross5630]

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[@thedoruk6324]

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[@theshape3988]

Gotta like Mrballen too. He's a great story teller

[@randyross5630]

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[@randyross5630]

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[@tommargarites2811]

An interesting story, sadly, I doubt we will ever know what really happened, certainly the technics used in the autopsies of the time would be rather poor at best compared to modern forensic studies available today.

[@abdulqudz89]

bless this channel for the content it uploads.

[@glendanison3064]

Got called into work unexpectedly today but it was made ip for by a new BTS upload. Intriguing story I've never heard before and in a location that's unfamiliar to me. I couldn't help but draw immediate parallels to an incident in California just 3 or 4 months ago. A married couple, their infant daughter and their dog all were found dead on a hiking trail all close to each other. Much mystery as to the cause but the coroner concluded hyperthermia. Reasonable for temps. were about 105°F/40°C but their body masses varied significantly. Not the same conditions as the Tatra hikers but just as mysterious.

[@Dharzjinion]

*whispers* a witch...

[@MrAn0nym0us]

Was gonna make the same comment. Two completely different scenarios, but this video made me think of that recent incident as well.

[@YankeePendragon]

With all the stories of mysterious deaths in damn near every environment on this planet, one wonders if its safe for anyone to go anywhere anymore. Still, very good story here. Thanks for bringing these to light.

[@marhawkman303]

@@eyecomeinpeace2707 Well.. there's a Million Ways to Die.... at home and in the woods... the real trick is dealing with known dangers. it's the UNknown dangers that'll get you.

[@noelienoelie8425]

City's are still the most dangerous places on earth.

[@marhawkman303]

@@noelienoelie8425 ah yes, the hunting grounds of the most dangerous predator known to exist...

[@Nuinwing]

@@eyecomeinpeace2707 most people die in their homes. In any case, there is no "safe place" to protect one from death in this reality. In my personal opinion it is best to not worry about the possibility of death, it will come for all of us at some point and the only comforting thing about it is: when it happens, one does not have to worry about it anymore.

[@racookster]

I wondered if the Frog Pond might have belched something up, like methane. High concentrations of it can cause pulmonary edema. Could Waleria have been positioned so that she didn't get as much exposure to swamp gas? Just a thought.

[@marhawkman303]

at that altitude and low temperature? not likely.

[@noelienoelie8425]

They stopped at the pond because they were too weak to go on. They had been feeling sick for a while before they reached the pond.

[@ShitboxXx360]

Tatras are a really dangerous mountain range that is often underestimated by tourists.

[@piotrd.4850]

This is like weightlifting - no matter how fit & strong you are, mishandling a weight (however small) may result in injury. Mountains, water, nature generally and weight command respect.

[@Thehomelessathlete]

When people say it's hiking it's actually climbing

[@MekStark1980]

Love this one, native to southern Poland but never heard of it. Just a polite hiking reminder: Tatras might be not Alps indeed but those are 6000ft plus mountains none the less. Emilcin Abduction from 1978 case would make great obscure fringe case episode :)

[@Libbathegreat]

Since they were found near a lake, I wonder if there was something noxious in the thick fog arising from it. Some lakes can emit hydrogen sulfide from decaying plant matter. H2S usually just gives off a bad smell, but in high enough concentrations causes *pulmonary edema* . No idea if this applies here, but high altitude lakes do have some strange properties and few have been studied in depth. Perhaps Valeria survived because the brandy exacerbated the effects, or because women breathe in lesser volumes of air and it dissipated before she got a lethal dose.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

🤔

[@noelienoelie8425]

No, they were already sick long before they reached the pond.

[@JakubW.]

@@noelienoelie8425 Especially Wasserberger.

[@suenoslucidos3899]

This story shady af

[@nikkinicole5588]

Didn't a family of three recently as this past summer die while hiking a mysterious death? I think it was thought to be environmental. Since there was no sign of suspicious circumstance. It was as if they had just fell down dead.

[@suyen4999]

I’m assuming you were referring to the Yosemite hikers? They died of heat exposure.

[@JamesMichael333]

@@suyen4999 LOL! Omg. Please tell me you really don’t believe that? I mean i know people are generally clueless. So you think a Man, Woman, their DOG!, and newborn all died from heat exposure huh? All within feet of each other? So they decided to all die together, is that it? Not 3 take shelter in some shade while one went for help? Tell me, im curious really curious, do believe every thing your told? Like on the news and CNN even if it doesn’t make sense? Wow.

[@peppersaltsman6044]

@@JamesMichael333 Wow. Nice over reaction. But yeah they died of heat exposure. They only brought half the recommended amount of water for 1 adult, and this was 2 adults, a baby and dog. They all died near each other because heat exposure would affect them all equally at the same time. They theorize the father (who had the baby in a sling) sat down to try and cool off and the mother continued on to the car, but didn't make it. The temperature where they were hiking was in the 100s and they had no water.

[@JamesMichael333]

@@peppersaltsman6044 the over reaction was the point lol. I guess you missed it too

[@JamesMichael333]

@@peppersaltsman6044 You’re another one huh? Its for the best you just believe what they tell you. To quiet the masses. Its actually scary how most people like yourself are so incredibly easy to accept and fool

[@openeyz]

This is eerily similar to what happened to a group of hikers and their instructor. (Not the Dyatlov incident).

[@BriarPatchNyra]

The korovina incident?

[@openeyz]

Possibly. Incident with the female instructor and 4-5 young adults. One survivor.

[@catxborsuq1]

Wow, I live in Poland and never heard of this story (I jokingly expected that you were about to talk of the "mystery" of why people go up those mountains in shorts during winter; which happens amazingly often...), thanks for making this video about it^^

[@TimPerfetto]

I'm not buying diapers wtf I don't need diapers

[@trinidaitobago2]

Only the man died...dryads probably dryads.

[@Dharzjinion]

They attract them with their human-call: "I'm so wasted, I'm so wasted!"

[@trinidaitobago2]

@@Dharzjinion dryads are a real problem here in Brazil.

[@mrg6185]

Happy to be here so early love your content :)

[@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777]

I'm about three-quarters of the way through but can't stop thinking about a certain Theory I've had about these types of cases. A lot of these cases mentioned a certain amount of howling wind or wind picking up at some point receiving some kind of extremely strange illnesses and deaths among a select group. Is there anything in nature that might cause some type of aggressive ultrasound illness or death? Maybe this type of ultrasonic attack that is naturally occurring only affects people who are genetically predisposed due to some type of inner ear and cranial characteristics?

[@crazysilly2914]

There is other cases like this?!?!

[@TRUTHISABSOLUTE777]

@@crazysilly2914 yep. Some people in outdoor groups seem to have a mental/ physical breakdown that effests the majority for unknown reasons.

[@dokkenratt]

Straight in. No messing. Great stuff!!!

[@nancyjones6780]

Oh JOY! A new Bedtime Stories! I don't even care what it's about. I'm sure it's fascinating! 💜

[@chrisnorman9980]

They take things that may be just interesting and make them fascinations - don’t they?

[@MrThickDick]

Alright, just relax Nancy. Why don't you take your attitude down a peg or two hmm?