The NBA needs a TRUE Definition of “SUPERSTAR”

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Foot On The Line

Foot On The Line

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@JesseWhiteman117
@JesseWhiteman117 11 ай бұрын
Saying Luka isnt a star is WILD. Im not even a huge Luka fan but crazy seeing this man catching strays for no reason when all he has been doing is playing like a monster.
@dafyyyyyy
@dafyyyyyy 11 ай бұрын
He white so they aint like him 👍
@parmeetsingh1636
@parmeetsingh1636 11 ай бұрын
Luka IS a star, he isn’t a superstar. I think they lost track of the conversation lmao
@ivanmorales7678
@ivanmorales7678 11 ай бұрын
@@parmeetsingh1636how is he not ?
@Adj8llk
@Adj8llk 11 ай бұрын
​@@parmeetsingh1636Luka and Jokic are 2 best players in the league you perkins type people cant stop crying about it😂
@suivatra123
@suivatra123 11 ай бұрын
​@Indescribablyarrogant Luka is very talented but nothing that he's done are has to offer that would lead a team to even appear in the Finals. Jokic far supercedes him.
@ghost-type
@ghost-type 11 ай бұрын
Those fools literally just naming players they liked. There was no logic in their picks.
@Okkotsu86275
@Okkotsu86275 11 ай бұрын
That with most things unfortunately
@kordellricesnax
@kordellricesnax 11 ай бұрын
Same thing i thought had me out here agreeing with Rashad
@f1nex280
@f1nex280 11 ай бұрын
Rs
@reubengermain9771
@reubengermain9771 11 ай бұрын
Wemby is a superstar already
@Godjayel
@Godjayel 11 ай бұрын
Y’all doing the same thing this generation don’t have many superstars right before magic and bird it was the samething
@smike7309
@smike7309 11 ай бұрын
It’s a crazy day if Rashad Mccants is the only one spitting😭🤦🏿‍♂️
@socorio4100
@socorio4100 11 ай бұрын
Agreeing with McCants got me sick to my stomach. I can’t breathe
@Zeuwamakanuwadiegwu
@Zeuwamakanuwadiegwu 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@themilkman1942
@themilkman1942 11 ай бұрын
@@socorio4100nah fr got me thinking maybe smthn wrong with my opinion bc im agreeing w him for once😭
@JPiddle
@JPiddle 11 ай бұрын
He's so horrible 😭
@MmaMadman85
@MmaMadman85 11 ай бұрын
Bro you know somethings wack when Rashad Mccants is the voice of reason and logic about basketball.
@Realcoolio
@Realcoolio 11 ай бұрын
As soon as Gil said Steve Francis i lost it LMFAO Edit: oh my god I didn’t expect my comment to get this much traction 😮 appreciate y’all
@JacksonHole83
@JacksonHole83 11 ай бұрын
No one expected that 😂
@TdwBsuCard24
@TdwBsuCard24 11 ай бұрын
See he lost me at an even higher tier when he said Vince but Steve Francis being a superstar is insane
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 11 ай бұрын
Stevie franchise was the guy for a lil moment bra
@joemagwood6096
@joemagwood6096 11 ай бұрын
After he said that the whole conversation should have been over😂😂😂
@TheShyRage
@TheShyRage 11 ай бұрын
Did he forget Wade and Kobe were in the league?
@takermajc5354
@takermajc5354 11 ай бұрын
Gil being Gilly once again
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 11 ай бұрын
Gilbert Arenas is polarizing and amusing at times. He got quite a reaction out of Low here.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 11 ай бұрын
@@fortynights1513No Gil is just stupid
@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem
@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem 11 ай бұрын
This man Gil be having some CRAZY TAKES. Steve Francis is a superstar but somehow Giannis ain't 😂😂
@AdriannnU
@AdriannnU 11 ай бұрын
Bruhhh I’m crying 😂😂😂
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
Giannis is 10000x more famous than Steve Francis💀
@denzelkoe
@denzelkoe 11 ай бұрын
Gil is wild what happened to him
@williamvaughn4418
@williamvaughn4418 11 ай бұрын
Steve is famous overseas
@SiriusV21
@SiriusV21 11 ай бұрын
Steve Francis not even more famous than Giannis in Maryland 😂
@kharis87
@kharis87 11 ай бұрын
A guy wins two MVPs, a DPOY and a Finals MVP........yea he is definitely a real good role player. Faxxctsx
@Qik_Jraw_McRaw
@Qik_Jraw_McRaw 11 ай бұрын
He literally the Lead Vote Getter for the Allstar Game.
@TheDoomAboveAll
@TheDoomAboveAll 11 ай бұрын
superstar to me means someone who has transcended the sport. people who couldn't care less about what you play/do, yet are quite familiar with who you are. being the best player in the league, winning, accumulating accomplishments, etc... do not automatically guarantee you to transcend out to the greater general public.
@groovytony870
@groovytony870 11 ай бұрын
Well said 🔥
@peezydabeatmonster8112
@peezydabeatmonster8112 11 ай бұрын
I completely agree the superstar word is just thrown around too freely it's alot of all stars in the league not superstars
@DirtyDev
@DirtyDev 11 ай бұрын
If that’s the case then there have only ever been maybe 10 fucking superstars: Lebron, Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Steph, Magic, Bird, KD, and AI. Maybe Kareem and Wilt.
@ShowtimeDon
@ShowtimeDon 11 ай бұрын
True, I think people get caught up in the words used. If they listened to the first 2 players mentioned, Bron & Curry, they’d understand stardom in more than the sport. Its influence
@eleonarcrimson858
@eleonarcrimson858 11 ай бұрын
yea and steve francis is one of those players , like @DirtyDev said there would only be like 8-10 players that would be in that conversation.@@ShowtimeDon
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 11 ай бұрын
Superstar has always had two meanings. Either you are must watch TV like rose, kyrie, and Westbrook were. Or you are a player to build a franchise around and in the conversation for the best in the world
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 11 ай бұрын
Two terms that people interpret differently. Top tier team centerpiece or top tier popularity. Those that nobody would debate were both.
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
Giannis is undoubtedly a superstar by all metrics so is KD lol
@ameerkhan3257
@ameerkhan3257 11 ай бұрын
@@AceTheCap823luka as well
@Cyrus-rodn45
@Cyrus-rodn45 11 ай бұрын
​@AceTheCapo823 neither of Giannis and kd don't move the money metric
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
@@Cyrus-rodn45 you just lied lol Giannis: - Lead the league in all star votes this year - Been top 2-4 in all star votes since 2018/2019 - Been top 3-5 in jersey sales since 2018/2019 - Was top 5 in total views across all nba platforms last year -Was confirmed by Nike in multiple shareholder earnings calls to not only be onna Nike Basketball’s biggest money makers currently but also had Nike’s largest initial signature silhouette launch in history - Had a Disney+ movie and had another on Amazon Prime coming out - Tied with KD for 3rd in endorsement earnings among nba players with 45M (Steph had 52M and Bron was 75M)
@meech6848
@meech6848 11 ай бұрын
Rashad Mccants will always have my respect just bc he isn't a sheep. Bro gon say and do whatever tf it is he feel and he goin stand on it. The man is always outnumbered😂
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
Brah Giannis: -Lead the league in all star votes -Been top 2-4 in all star votes since 2018/2019 -Been top 3-5 in jersey sales since 2018/2019 -Top 5 is total views across all nba platforms last year -Confirmed by Nike to have the most successful initial launch of a signature line in history and was confirmed to be onna Nike’s best money makers -Had a collab with Drake and been name dropped in songs a bunch -Had a Disney+ movie and another one on Amazon Prime comin out soon - Was tied with KD for 3rd in endorsement earnings at 45M (Steph was 52M and Bron was 75M) Unless Lebron and Steph is your minimum bar for what a superstar is, Giannis is 1000% a superstar….so are KD, JT, and Luka Gil is just wrong
@FGPlus
@FGPlus 11 ай бұрын
Nah bro all ur facts are wrong. Steve Francis is the bar of super stardom
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
@@FGPlusmb bro😭😭😭
@killersan6857
@killersan6857 11 ай бұрын
Kd and Devin booker are not superstar they both playing on the same team and are 6th seed
@SiriusV21
@SiriusV21 11 ай бұрын
Agree with everyone you stated except Tatum. Someone who chokes and is as inconsistent as him isn’t a superstar
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
@@SiriusV21 that’s fair, I was just takin into consideration off the court pull only cuz that’s the logic Gil was using but I agree wit you
@C6LD
@C6LD 11 ай бұрын
No way Gil said the reigning finals mvp and two time mvp a fringe star 😂
@idahoandude3284
@idahoandude3284 11 ай бұрын
Gil is openly racist. Jokic isn't "for the culture", simple as that. It's the same reason AI gets put into conversations he doesn't belong in.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 11 ай бұрын
Because they swept the Lakers in the playoffs 😂😂😂
@kman9884
@kman9884 11 ай бұрын
@@idahoandude3284”for the culture” mentality hilarious af, because not a single dude with that mindset is a champion
@djnes2k7
@djnes2k7 11 ай бұрын
He is though what is so hard to comprehend about it. He’s in no commercials media never talks about him. This isn’t a “on the court” conversation. Stars and superstars go beyond the court. I’m not sure why everyone doesn’t understand this. His jersey sales aren’t even that high.
@deshaunblocker1323
@deshaunblocker1323 11 ай бұрын
@@djnes2k7hit it on the head jokic not marketable not a overwhelming number of ppl buying tickets when the nuggets come to they town to see him play he a star tho just off production alone
@JaredTSM
@JaredTSM 11 ай бұрын
he said steve francis with a straight face 🤣🤣🤣
@jcaesar9683
@jcaesar9683 11 ай бұрын
Being a superstar isn't only about how well you play basketball or your ability to sell arena tickets about your importance in popular culture. How much you can sell outside of basketball, your importance in public consciousness... A superstar is well known even to people who do not watch or know much about your sport.
@donaldf9055
@donaldf9055 11 ай бұрын
💯💯. You need clout to be a superstar, but luckily the best players in the world have that clout so ye..
@RealJuiceWrld
@RealJuiceWrld 11 ай бұрын
Jokic is a superstar but he don’t sell jerseys in America
@RealJuiceWrld
@RealJuiceWrld 11 ай бұрын
Tim Duncan is the 3rd best player of all time and he ain’t got 0 clout and he was definitely a Superstar so wassup
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 11 ай бұрын
So players who are objectively great but aren’t flashy or marketable aren’t “superstar” players?
@innovance3788
@innovance3788 11 ай бұрын
A lot of people didn't understand the conversation, then Gil kinda switched it up the next day and I tapped out.
@2431-q5b
@2431-q5b 11 ай бұрын
Star: everybody who watches basketball knows he’s that guy Superstar: household name to people who don’t even watch basketball
@smokey949
@smokey949 11 ай бұрын
To add to this. i see it as star: they are all-star at some point of their career. Most basketball heads know they nice superstar: usually always an all star selection/ usually the face of thier respected teams. More known to the public. MegaStar: they usually the face of the NBA/ when you bring up the word NBA/basketball they are metion/ worldwide persona. usually only 1-2 at any given decade.
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
If that’s the bar than there’s only been like 4-8 superstars in league history, and I just don’t agree
@AceTheCap823
@AceTheCap823 11 ай бұрын
@@smokey949 I always thought that superstar and megastar was the same it’s just some superstars are more famous than others. Matter of fact I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term mega star ever
@KxngKUDA
@KxngKUDA 11 ай бұрын
​@@smokey949megastar isn't a thing. They're just superstars with better marketability. There are superstar talents that fade to obscurity because of small market teams/lack of social presence. Luka is 100% a superstar, like Dirk and Timmy D were. Just in a market that isn't considered high stakes and universally reputable. LeBron and Steph are legacy superstars, due to their established names and consistent production that still spans today. There are nba STARS, with the talent of possible superstars, but lack the cultural and league impact to be in that tier. That's for the ANT, SGA, Spida type players. Usually the biggest indicator of a superstar is contextually a combination of individual production, team success directly attributed to that production, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, how it translates into the postseason. The current NBA superstars are LeBron, Steph, Giannis, Luka, Embiid (still on fraud watch tho), Tatum, and Jokic SGA is VERY close. He needs a good playoff run to push him over the top. Same for ANT.
@stevenmark4407
@stevenmark4407 11 ай бұрын
@@AceTheCap823to me those would be MJ, Lebron, Shaq, Kobi, AI, . . . Who else?
@Hi-NuAetherling
@Hi-NuAetherling 11 ай бұрын
A superstar to me is a player who can be named by people that don't watch the sport. You have become synonymous with the sport.
@denim5667
@denim5667 11 ай бұрын
they’re are two definitions of superstars that im fine with: 1.) players that can transcend basketball and are/were popular outside of the sport. people like kobe, bron, curry, magic, jordan, etc.. 2.) players who are floor raisers & who *can* be the best player on a championship team. so jokic, giannis, KD, embiid, etc.. those two definitions are what i can see people calling “superstars”
@jordancromwell
@jordancromwell 10 ай бұрын
Take Embiid out of there 😂😂😂
@denim5667
@denim5667 10 ай бұрын
@@jordancromwell definitely not. yes he underperforms & isn’t always reliable but he’s definitely a floor raiser & when he’s healthy, is looked at to be the best player on a contender. if he’ll ever show it? idk. but he’s a definite superstar
@Okkotsu86275
@Okkotsu86275 11 ай бұрын
McCants is actually correct, as rare as that is.
@Btheonly33
@Btheonly33 11 ай бұрын
Gilbert wasn't winning anything healthy or not
@Okkotsu86275
@Okkotsu86275 11 ай бұрын
@Grafikuniverse That's true, Gil's style and mentality about the game weren't really built on winning or deep playoffs runs.
@brennan_
@brennan_ 11 ай бұрын
Gil really has put him self on the GOAT trajectory of bad takes. His Ausar Thompson comments were hilarious, but "VC was a superstar and Giannis isn't" is just genuinely unhinged lol
@dukedex5043
@dukedex5043 11 ай бұрын
I'm a new backetball fan, and a few months ago the only players I knew about were Lebron and Curry, so I think that guy has a point. But maybe he's mistaking superstar with mainstream personality.
@VoltageMarvel
@VoltageMarvel 11 ай бұрын
When Rashad is looking like the most sensible person in the room talking about basketball you got a problem
@3CityJay
@3CityJay 11 ай бұрын
TMac was in hella commercials when I was younger. Thats superstar
@TJones4L
@TJones4L 11 ай бұрын
GILL STOOOOOP 😂😂😂
@JackOBee29
@JackOBee29 11 ай бұрын
Everybody on Rockets when Yao was playing was a superstar in China 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@johnlindsay7301
@johnlindsay7301 13 күн бұрын
Low, a couple years ago I couldn’t find any new videos from you. I was wondering where you went as you have been one of my top creators for a while now. I just want to let you know how great it is to have you back. Keep it going. You are a superstar!
@MOCskoden
@MOCskoden 11 ай бұрын
I thought Gil was gonna say Steve Nash but then he said Steve Francis 😂😂😂
@fdub301
@fdub301 11 ай бұрын
“Superstar” is about popularity
@CobiOnTheRocks
@CobiOnTheRocks 11 ай бұрын
Starting a petition right now to get Low on Gilbert’s podcast
@tengogei
@tengogei 11 ай бұрын
Never in my life did I thought I would be praising and agreeing with a man with a crown on his head
@sunchaser9898
@sunchaser9898 11 ай бұрын
As soon as he said Joker wasn't a superstar, nothing Gilbert said in this vid was worth listening to
@Tripp3000
@Tripp3000 4 ай бұрын
Literally
@Topolinho
@Topolinho 11 ай бұрын
Being named Gilbert can lead you to being obsessed with AURA.
@KBGJAY912
@KBGJAY912 11 ай бұрын
10:37 boy, I laughed the same exact way when i heard that bullshit 🤣🤣🤣
@donaldf9055
@donaldf9055 11 ай бұрын
Imo, off court aura or the ability to win you a chip makes you a superstar. Thats why i think players like embiid, jokic, luka, lebron, curry, giannis, (brunson has potential, wemby smd idgaf what yall say), and even ja are the only superstars in the league.
@lbape
@lbape 11 ай бұрын
"ability to win to win a chip" than u put wemby
@daveyboonhower
@daveyboonhower 11 ай бұрын
I see what you're saying and I agree with the ability to win being a superstar and when it comes to Wemby I'd say he has the superstar name but his play isn't Superstar just yet
@daveyboonhower
@daveyboonhower 11 ай бұрын
@@lbape to be fair he said of court Aura is one of them and tbh Wemby does have that it's just his play isn't superstar level yet
@kintemark1342
@kintemark1342 11 ай бұрын
Gil almost made me choke on my food when said Steve Francis 😂😂😂😂........ WHAT!!!!😂😂😂😂
@maymunistahli502
@maymunistahli502 11 ай бұрын
I am from Europe, from 2000-2008, i lived in multiple countries here all in Europe, almost every child, knew vince carter and t-mac, all we bought as merch was vince, t-mac and allen iversion not even shaq or kobe
@oneofone_1333
@oneofone_1333 11 ай бұрын
same here bro, everybody loved tmac and vc
@zotanica
@zotanica 11 ай бұрын
Yeah LOW just kinda has no idea in that aspect he doesn’t know about Yao Ming lmao
@diegobromfield
@diegobromfield 11 ай бұрын
This was the muddy version. Watch the episode after this one for a cleaner explanation. Basically they have 3 categories: star, super star and mega star. They have Bron and Curry as the only current mega star. Tatum is a super star on the mega star path. Along with Ja & Luka. And then they have a bunch of stars including Jokic and the rest. This episode is like a rough cut version of what they really mean. Because even I pointed out what they should have said to define it properly. Then Gil himself did so that same night on a stream and the next episode. The follow up episode made way more sense.
@bullshark3771
@bullshark3771 11 ай бұрын
Ja shouldn’t be superstar. Jokic should be super star by that definition.
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 11 ай бұрын
@@bullshark3771 Ja is a super star cause he's young talented and marketable. Without him his team doesn't go far. Jokic lacks the marketing part, he has everything else including the chip. But despite that if companies had to pick between the two... 9/10 they pick Ja
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 11 ай бұрын
So basically you're saying they chop up the vid to gather attention with "controversy". Then folks go on their channel and actually watch the vid and there's more clarity to the clip
@innovance3788
@innovance3788 11 ай бұрын
@@jeremybrown9611 Nah they just hadn't defined things very well. Kenyon and Gil knew what they both meant, but comprehension was apparently difficult in a lot of other places...
@bullshark3771
@bullshark3771 11 ай бұрын
@@jeremybrown9611 are you high? Jokic is as marketable as it gets. People love his personality and find him funny and fun to watch. Maybe he isn’t posterizing people but he’s also not getting suspended a week after coming back. Teams would take Ja 2/10 times. Ja is 24 Jokic is 28. The age difference isn’t massive like 34 and 23 or something. People are souring on Ja due to antics and like Jokic as he’s seen as an underdog finally proving the haters wrong.
@InHouseJob
@InHouseJob 11 ай бұрын
Your response on Steve Francis begin a superstar was mad funny. LOL!!!
@alexanderi2020
@alexanderi2020 10 ай бұрын
Nahhhh he aint just say Steve Francis 😂😂😂
@corybr0wn691
@corybr0wn691 11 ай бұрын
I think what they mean are players that’s transcend past basketball Into pop culture where somebody who doesn’t watch would know Like Kobe, mj, Dennis Rodman Less to do with talent more marketability
@ChaosPrototypeIX
@ChaosPrototypeIX 11 ай бұрын
I actually agree that there are only 2 real superstars in NBA, LBJ and Steph because even the utmost casuals and people who dont even follow the NBA know about them. KD is borderline superstar imho. For me superstar is is a player whose fame transcends NBA fanbase and knowledge that even people who dont even care about NBA are aware of them. If we are bound by NBA circle(jerk) then there are plenty of superstars, but for me superstar requires global appeal and fame. Also fuk Gil, that dude shouldnt be even allowed to talk about NBA and BBal.
@symonooga543
@symonooga543 11 ай бұрын
He ain't lying there is only 2 superstars in the league right now or in any era
@KBGJAY912
@KBGJAY912 11 ай бұрын
Boy you know you sound crazy when McCants cooking you 😂😂😂
@Teamusc1
@Teamusc1 11 ай бұрын
WHEN THE LEAUGE SHUT DOWN THE PLAYERS LOOKED TO LEBRON IF THEY WOULD CONTINUE PLAYING. That’s a SUPERSTAR it bigger than stats ITS A TITLE THE PLAYER MUST ACCEPT only has done that so far
@marcelpowell8854
@marcelpowell8854 10 ай бұрын
Ding ding ding
@leroyrodgers6089
@leroyrodgers6089 11 ай бұрын
Nah, I fell over laughing when Gil said Steve Francis and LOW researched him 😂 🤣. Omfg these niggas just chatting haha 😄
@tranceform9459
@tranceform9459 11 ай бұрын
I think popularity does have a part in what makes a superstar. A superstar is the tier of player that could be an allstar starter and fan vote has a lot to do with whos can be an all star starter. If you have started in multiple all star games, then you're likely a superstar player
@ScruFaceJeanOfficial
@ScruFaceJeanOfficial 11 ай бұрын
They aren’t talkin about stats, stats don’t make you a superstar. They make you a basketball star A super star is a player who is Omni present in pop culture, a person who even if you don’t follow Bball, you know them i.e. Jordan, Lebron, Curry etc. it’s more of a pop culture thing than sport thing honestly
@VIVIHESS
@VIVIHESS 10 ай бұрын
Wembanyama.
@cotati76
@cotati76 10 ай бұрын
The NBA isn’t nearly as popular as it used to be. I don’t think the NBA has a single transcendent star that makes non fans want to watch. It’s why viewership keeps going down. MJ was the most famous person on the planet when he played. There isn’t a current NBA player that comes even remotely close to being that famous and ubiquitous.
@VIVIHESS
@VIVIHESS 10 ай бұрын
Wembanyama. @@cotati76
@edwindahking
@edwindahking 10 ай бұрын
Steve Francis?
@msharp138
@msharp138 11 ай бұрын
Agree...A Superstar is someone who is recognised outside the construct of basketball...
@JayyBanks
@JayyBanks 11 ай бұрын
I hate this conversation. Because to me. Off the court, visibility and popularity is needed for there to be a true SUPERstar. To me a superstar is recognizable outside of their given sports niche. As well as being a top player in their given sport.
@markjones2518
@markjones2518 2 ай бұрын
I agree
@FIIIIR
@FIIIIR 11 ай бұрын
Superstar is like a Hollywood actor/actress that you can market worldwide. Not just in US. Vince and TMac was famous even in Asia. Kobe was like in the Superstar+.
@danomaly8943
@danomaly8943 11 ай бұрын
1:02 correct. Superstar means “Must See TV”. Steph and Lebron are must see tv they create an expectation that everytime you see them play you will see greatness. The other guys don’t quite have it. There are some guys that are close but they aren’t box office. Many of them will be forgotten the same way Carmelo, T Mac, Dwights, Isaiah Thomas and so many others aren’t remembered. If Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett didn’t have shows people would have forgotten about them too. You don’t forget the Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Micheal Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson or Shaq because they were superstars. There are a lot of star players but superstars are immortal.
@LP_Guitar
@LP_Guitar 11 ай бұрын
Gil saying Steve Francis reminds me of Max Kellerman betting on Iguodola 😂
@uoooogg2148
@uoooogg2148 11 ай бұрын
how he gon tell gil who was a superstar in HIS playin time
@Noodlezoop
@Noodlezoop 11 ай бұрын
Based on Gil's own criteria... No he wasn't
@Okkotsu86275
@Okkotsu86275 11 ай бұрын
I would say Gil was more all-star than superstar
@gotworc
@gotworc 11 ай бұрын
​@@Okkotsu86275nah for his peak for like 3-4 years he was a superstar. He was unstoppable
@QuestionEverything562
@QuestionEverything562 11 ай бұрын
​@@gotworcsmh, a dude that only got to the 2nd round once in his prime is a superstar now? He never even sniffed MVP or 1st team honors. Gilbert was never a superstar.
@jacksonpayne3477
@jacksonpayne3477 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@gotworc I mean only if you have an extremely low bar for who is considered a superstar. In terms of an actual superstar, no, he wasn’t.
@goatlinton365
@goatlinton365 11 ай бұрын
In most other sports, superstar refers to someone who is globally recognized and well known by just about everyone. This is why top 10 conversations has a clear cut definition and is much easier to understand rather than debating about the definition of the classification itself.
@goatbrook9065
@goatbrook9065 11 ай бұрын
jersey sales if flawed since i think we having a convo on clout outside nba fans so like the average person who dont care for the nba. they know steph and bron. i dont think the average person really knows tatum is. kd i think got a chance. then we can debate like booker and dame but bron and curry clears and kd is close eveyerone in this convo is distant
@innovance3788
@innovance3788 11 ай бұрын
Don't understand how this isn't graspable for people...
@alexanderi2020
@alexanderi2020 10 ай бұрын
Nahhh Yao Ming calvinized an entire country. Yao Ming was definitely a Superstar on impact alone.
@yeahimquik
@yeahimquik 4 күн бұрын
what he do on the court to make him one?
@SupaFlyMagic
@SupaFlyMagic 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😭😭 as soon as they mentioned Jokic I knew Low was about to go crazy
@marcelpowell8854
@marcelpowell8854 10 ай бұрын
He’s not marketable not a lot of kids know him. Just the other day a kid was in barbershop nsming his fav player lebron and Steph came up.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 11 ай бұрын
Facts Steph and Lebron thats it,Kenyon Martin cooked on that one. Only superstars in history are Magic/Bird/Dr J/MJ/Shaq/Kobe/Iverson/Bron/Steph (HM Wilt,Kareem,Yao Ming,KD,Luka,Giannis)
@Cyrus-rodn45
@Cyrus-rodn45 11 ай бұрын
Dennis rodman also
@keyboard2758
@keyboard2758 11 ай бұрын
Iverson don’t belong on here
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 11 ай бұрын
@@keyboard2758 he was a superstar
@keyboard2758
@keyboard2758 11 ай бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports Ming don’t belong on here either
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 11 ай бұрын
@@keyboard2758 hes an HM
@AveryB.0
@AveryB.0 11 ай бұрын
Being a superstar is not JUST about your game. Its about how popular you are and crossing over outside of your sport. Lebron then Steph, but they are on some much higher of stardom and fame than any other player currently. They really need to be in there own different category so you cant lump them all together.
@Dimework
@Dimework 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for exposing these ridiculous takes.
@DewGotti215
@DewGotti215 11 ай бұрын
Your impact off the floor is really what makes u a superstar.
@innovance3788
@innovance3788 11 ай бұрын
Some random dude in some random place on the planet who's never really watched basketball or followed the NBA shouting "Kobe" as he throws trash into a bin in 2024 is the conversation that Gil and Kenyon are having...
@DerQuanDoucett
@DerQuanDoucett 11 ай бұрын
And I guarantee yu they know Giannis, jokic, kd, Luka, and Tatum before they kno Steve Francis 😂
@41bengal
@41bengal 11 ай бұрын
That's really what a superstar is to my knowledge.. if my late mom knew who a player was would have mostly meant that he was famous outside of just basketball.. and my mom was a real deal ball player in high school and after
@DerQuanDoucett
@DerQuanDoucett 11 ай бұрын
@@41bengal would yu say that Steve Francis is one of those ppl
@innovance3788
@innovance3788 11 ай бұрын
@@DerQuanDoucett Yes, Steve Francis' place in this conversation is literally his fame amongst what would have been at the time, 1/7th of this planet's population...
@DerQuanDoucett
@DerQuanDoucett 11 ай бұрын
@@innovance3788 was Steve Francis a star at his time? Ofc I wouldn’t say that but superstar is pushing it. If being popular is all yu need to be a superstar than it’s like 10 players who are superstars
@TheJasonboteler
@TheJasonboteler 11 ай бұрын
Their definition of superstar seems to be popularity outside of basketball. With that definition it is just Lebron and Steph.
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 11 ай бұрын
Steph and Lebron are megastars Giannis jokic emid lamelo dame Ja Durant luka etc are NBA superstars
@innovance3788
@innovance3788 11 ай бұрын
Ooooh this! This is much better!! This bridges the conversation both sides are having. Cos everyone mocking Gil are talking about NBA Superstars, but that's not really what Gil and Kenyon are talking about...
@kinasty7348
@kinasty7348 11 ай бұрын
Kd is in the same tier as curry and lebron wth
@marcelpowell8854
@marcelpowell8854 10 ай бұрын
KD naw
@matthewsigmon778
@matthewsigmon778 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you addressed this
@FeaRDirTy
@FeaRDirTy 11 ай бұрын
Bruh Yao Ming had 350 million votes for all star selections. He was definitely a superstar 😂 popularity definitely is a part of superstardom
@christopheranderson1052
@christopheranderson1052 11 ай бұрын
If you’re gonna tell me Yao Ming was a superstar over Tim Duncan u a bozo
@moeski17
@moeski17 11 ай бұрын
Superstar in China yes.
@FeaRDirTy
@FeaRDirTy 11 ай бұрын
@@christopheranderson1052I mean I agree, but Timmy d was a ducked off player he had superstar skill but not superstar fame.
@FeaRDirTy
@FeaRDirTy 11 ай бұрын
@@moeski17 yea and imagine saying the guy with an entire country behind him isn’t a superstar 😂
@innovance3788
@innovance3788 11 ай бұрын
@@FeaRDirTy Not a whole country 1/8 of the planets population.... Also people thinking Steve Francis is ridiculous name to bring out, but forget he played with Yao....
@KrystalWolf24
@KrystalWolf24 10 ай бұрын
I swear people just chat to chat. Giannis, Joker, Luka, KD, LeBron and Steph are superstars. Tatum, Kyrie, Dame, Brunson, AD, Antman, Spida, to name a few are certified stars. These are pivotal pieces. They have crazy impact on winning, and how they play will be the difference between a win or loss 90% of the time
@davincerica7232
@davincerica7232 11 ай бұрын
Always two there are, no more, no less.
@Pancake_141
@Pancake_141 11 ай бұрын
Must’ve been some games that Steve Francis fried Gilbert for him to think that 😂😂
@MrUnderdog561
@MrUnderdog561 11 ай бұрын
For me a SUPERSTAR MOST ALL POSSESS 3 THINGS AT ONCE 1. Must be an elite allstar (top 20 player) 2. Must be face of the franchise 3. Must be a household name and Transcendant player that a the most casual basketball fan knows their name and who they are. 1. Lebron 2. Curry 3. KD 4. JA morent 5. Tatum 6. Giannis 7. Luka
@kappaman1994
@kappaman1994 11 ай бұрын
Gilbert *IS* _Cooking_ On This Topic. It Takes Mores Than _Accolades_ To Be A *Super ✰s* .
@jetblack4206
@jetblack4206 11 ай бұрын
Haha,so you have just as bad takes as Gil
@kappaman1994
@kappaman1994 11 ай бұрын
@@jetblack4206 @jetblack4206 • 🤔😆🧐😂 _Come On Brother!!!_ Let’s Dissect What @GilbertArenas _Said_ … • @GilbertArenas _IS_ *Basically* Correct About When He Said That It Takes More Than _Stats_ To Be A *_Super✰ !_* Jokic Stats Are _Impressive,_ *_BUT_* Jokic Is *-NOT-* A *_Super✰_* In The NBA (He _Is_ A _Franchise Player,_ *I’ll Explain Franchise Player Later On* ). Where Does Jokic’s #15 Nuggets Ranks As-Far-As Jersey Sales? Does Jokic Have A Signature Series 👟 Or Athletic Gear? Jokic’s Jersey Ranks About 18th. Jokic Does *_-NOT-_* Have A Signature Line Of 👟 _Or_ Athletic Gear Currently Available _BUT_ That Maybe 🤔 Changing In The Future🤞🏽. Does Jokic Move The 💉 With The 🪭s As-Far-As _Popularity_ Goes? Of Course, He Does *_-NOT-_* 😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️. Joel Embiid, Another _Great_ Player In The League Today. He Is By *_Far,_* The *Best* _Center_ *&* _Scorer_ In The *NBA **_&_** “ **_Yet_** ”Would 🫵🏾 Consider *Embiid* A *_Super✰ ?_* 🤔🧐, Me, Personally, I Could 👀 *Both* The Yes & No Arguments To *THIS* “1️⃣”. *IF* I Have To Say, I Could/Would Confidently Say That 🤔🤔💭💭🧐🧐 *YES, HELL YES 👍🏾!* Embiid Is A *_Super✰!!!_* There Are *Three* Scenarios _&_ Reasons That Makes Embiid A *_Super✰ !_* Which Are: 1. He Has *BOTH* His *_OWN_* EXCLUSIVE 👟 _&_ Athletic Gear Endorsement *With* Under Armour, 2. His #21 76ers Jersey Ranked 🔝 10 In Sales ( 9th, Ahead of Jokic _&_ *MANY* Guards, Like Lillard, Young *&* Ball) *&,* 3. Embiid Stir 🆙 *Emotions* In 🪭s. There Is _-No-_ In-Between With *Embiid;* 🪭s Either ❤️ Him Or 🤬 -Hate- 🤬 Him. Embiid Is Actually *Both* A *_Super✰_*_ &_ A *_Franchise Player._* In The Embiid 🆚 Jokic Parallel (I _Know_ You *NEVER* Brought 🆙 Jokic @ All, I Actually Did To Better _Articulate_ *&* Explain Gilbert’s Point), Embiid *Meets* _ALL_ Of The Criteria That @GilbertArenas Is Referring To About *NBA* *_Super✰s_* (@gilbertarenas Just Did *-NOT-* _Articulate_ It In The Best Way For Most/All To Comprehend). A _Great_ Example Of A Player (Past All ⌛️_Great_ ) That @GilbertArenas Is 🗣️ About In The 🎥 Is Karl Malone. 🆙 Until The 🐐, ♟ *_LeBron James_* ♟Surpassed Him Last Season, Karl Was The *N.B.A.’s* _ALL-⌛️_ 🔝Scorer _&_ *Won* -A- “✌🏾” ( *_That’s “2️⃣” _*MVP_* Awards, 💩 *TBH,* I 💭 He 🏆 _ONLY_ *1* ) *_MVP_* Awards🥇 In *1996-97* _&_ *1998-99* Seasons. During Karl’s *HOF* ( _Hall Of Fame_ ) Career, He Was *-NEVER-* Considered A *Super✰.* He Was *Most Definitely* 💯 A _Franchise Player !!!_ Karl *DID* Have His Own Signature 👟 With *_LA Gear._* He Also Had A 🔝 *”10”* _All⌛️_ *BOSS* Nickname, *“The📫Man,”* _But_“ His On Court Style (The Lame 😒 ___-ssɐ-_ 🗽 *Dunk* 🤮🤮🤮& His Country _ssɐ_ 🐄🤠Dissimulate Satire Gussy-🆙 Giddy-🆙) Lacked _Showmanship_ *&* _Pizazz!_ A Very Great Player Who Is _Much_ Forgotten *_&_* Overlooked In The *_NBA’s_* History. Not To Elaborate Upon This Too Much Longer, The *_Antithesis_* To Karl Malone *Is* Charles Barkley. In Short, If 🫵🏾 Have Ever Watched *TNT* & You Already Know That Charles *_“Round Mound Of Rebound”_* Barkley Had _Everything_ Needed To Be A *NBA* *_Super✰_* _&_ A Franchise Player: 1. A *HOF* Personality, 2. *HOF* Charisma That _Was_ ( *TBH,* _STILL_ _Is_ ) *TOP 3* Today, 3. Had *BOTH* On _&_ The Court, The Greatest _’Best Friend’_ In 🏀 ( 💩 Sports) History, Michael Jordan 4. Major 👟 _&_ Apparel Deal With *_Nike_* (Shoes _Were_ Very Expensive & Popular) *&:* 5. He Was A 🐐 *PF* (More So Than Karl Malone, Arguably? A Terror @ *_6’4 ⅞”_*_ & _*_275lbs !_* Charles Barkley Was _BOTH,_ A Franchise Player *&* A *_Super✰!!!_* _Franchise Player•_ Is The *_Best_* Player On Their Team _&_ One ☝🏾 That A Team _Can_ Build Their *_"Franchise"_* Around !!! In The *NBA,* There Are _Usually_ @ Most “2️⃣” On A Team *&* _CURRENTLY,_ This Is *MY* Opinion, About 8️⃣ Or 9️⃣ Of Those _Elite_ Gentlemen *RIGHT NOW.ᐟ
@kappaman1994
@kappaman1994 11 ай бұрын
@@jetblack4206 @jetblack4206 • 🤔😆🧐😂 _Come On Brother!!!_ Let’s Dissect What @GilbertArenas _Said_ … • @GilbertArenas _IS_ *Basically* Correct About When He Said That It Takes More Than _Stats_ To Be A *_Super✰ !_* Jokic Stats Are _Impressive,_ *_BUT_* Jokic Is *-NOT-* A *_Super✰_* In The NBA (He _Is_ A _Franchise Player,_ *I’ll Explain Franchise Player Later On* ). Where Does Jokic’s #15 Nuggets Ranks As-Far-As Jersey Sales? Does Jokic Have A Signature Series 👟 Or Athletic Gear? Jokic’s Jersey Ranks About 18th. Jokic Does *_-NOT-_* Have A Signature Line Of 👟 _Or_ Athletic Gear Currently Available _BUT_ That Maybe 🤔 Changing In The Future🤞🏽. Does Jokic Move The 💉 With The 🪭s As-Far-As _Popularity_ Goes? Of Course, He Does *_-NOT-_* 😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️. Joel Embiid, Another _Great_ Player In The League Today. He Is By *_Far,_* The *Best* _Center_ *&* _Scorer_ In The *NBA **_&_** “ **_Yet_** ”Would 🫵🏾 Consider *Embiid* A *_Super✰ ?_* 🤔🧐, Me, Personally, I Could 👀 *Both* The Yes & No Arguments To *THIS* “1️⃣”. *IF* I Have To Say, I Could/Would Confidently Say That 🤔🤔💭💭🧐🧐 *YES, HELL YES 👍🏾!* Embiid Is A *_Super✰!!!_* There Are *Three* Scenarios _&_ Reasons That Makes Embiid A *_Super✰ !_* Which Are: 1. He Has *BOTH* His *_OWN_* EXCLUSIVE 👟 _&_ Athletic Gear Endorsement *With* Under Armour, 2. His #21 76ers Jersey Ranked 🔝 10 In Sales ( 9th, Ahead of Jokic _&_ *MANY* Guards, Like Lillard, Young *&* Ball) *&,* 3. Embiid Stir 🆙 *Emotions* In 🪭s. There Is _-No-_ In-Between With *Embiid;* 🪭s Either ❤️ Him Or 🤬 -Hate- 🤬 Him. Embiid Is Actually *Both* A *_Super✰_*_ &_ A *_Franchise Player._* In The Embiid 🆚 Jokic Parallel (I _Know_ You *NEVER* Brought 🆙 Jokic @ All, I Actually Did To Better _Articulate_ *&* Explain Gilbert’s Point), Embiid *Meets* _ALL_ Of The Criteria That @GilbertArenas Is Referring To About *NBA* *_Super✰s_* (@gilbertarenas Just Did *-NOT-* _Articulate_ It In The Best Way For Most/All To Comprehend). A _Great_ Example Of A Player (Past All ⌛️ _Great_ ) That @GilbertArenas Is 🗣️ About In The 🎥 Is Karl Malone. 🆙 Until The 🐐, ♟ *_LeBron James_* ♟Surpassed Him Last Season, Karl Was The *N.B.A.’s* _ALL-⌛️_ 🔝Scorer _&_ *Won* -A- “✌🏾” ( *_That’s “2️⃣” _*MVP_* Awards, 💩 *TBH,* I 💭 He 🏆 _ONLY_ *1* ) *_MVP_* Awards🥇 In *1996-97* _&_ *1998-99* Seasons. During Karl’s *HOF* ( _Hall Of Fame_ ) Career, He Was *-NEVER-* Considered A *Super✰.* He Was *Most Definitely* 💯 A _Franchise Player !!!_ Karl *DID* Have His Own Signature 👟 With *_LA Gear._* He Also Had A 🔝 *”10”* _All⌛️_ *BOSS* Nickname, *“The📫Man,”* _But_“ His On Court Style (The Lame 😒 ___-ssɐ-_ 🗽 *Dunk* 🤮🤮🤮& His Country _ssɐ_ 🐄🤠Dissimulate Satire Gussy-🆙 Giddy-🆙) Lacked _Showmanship_ *&* _Pizazz!_ A Very Great Player Who Is _Much_ Forgotten *_&_* Overlooked In The *_NBA’s_* History. Not To Elaborate Upon This Too Much Longer, The *_Antithesis_* To Karl Malone *Is* Charles Barkley. In Short, If 🫵🏾 Have Ever Watched *TNT* & You Already Know That Charles *_“Round Mound Of Rebound”_* Barkley Had _Everything_ Needed To Be A *NBA* *_Super✰_* _&_ A Franchise Player: 1. A *HOF* Personality, 2. *HOF* Charisma That _Was_ ( *TBH,* _STILL_ _Is_ ) *TOP 3* Today, 3. Had *BOTH* On _&_ The Court, The Greatest _’Best Friend’_ In 🏀 ( 💩 Sports) History, Michael Jordan 4. Major 👟 _&_ Apparel Deal With *_Nike_* (Shoes _Were_ Very Expensive & Popular) *&:* 5. He Was A 🐐 *PF* (More So Than Karl Malone, Arguably? A Terror @ *_6’4 ⅞”_*_ & _*_275lbs !_* Charles Barkley Was _BOTH,_ A Franchise Player *&* A *_Super✰!!!_* _Franchise Player•_ Is The *_Best_* Player On Their Team _&_ One ☝🏾 That A Team _Can_ Build Their *_"Franchise"_* Around !!! In The *NBA,* There Are _Usually_ @ Most “2️⃣” On A Team *&* _CURRENTLY,_ This Is *MY* Opinion, About 8️⃣ Or 9️⃣ Of Those _Elite_ Gentlemen *RIGHT NOW.ᐟ
@kappaman1994
@kappaman1994 11 ай бұрын
@@jetblack4206 @jetblack4206 • 🤔😆🧐😂 _Come On Brother!!!_ Let’s Dissect What @GilbertArenas _Said_ … • @GilbertArenas _IS_ *Basically* Correct About When He Said That It Takes More Than _Stats_ To Be A *_Super✰ !_* Jokic Stats Are _Impressive,_ *_BUT_* Jokic Is *-NOT-* A *_Super✰_* In The NBA (He _Is_ A _Franchise Player,_ *I’ll Explain Franchise Player Later On* ). Where Does Jokic’s #15 Nuggets Ranks As-Far-As Jersey Sales? Does Jokic Have A Signature Series 👟 Or Athletic Gear? Jokic’s Jersey Ranks About 18th. Jokic Does *_-NOT-_* Have A Signature Line Of 👟 _Or_ Athletic Gear Currently Available _BUT_ That Maybe 🤔 Changing In The Future🤞🏽. Does Jokic Move The 💉 With The 🪭s As-Far-As _Popularity_ Goes? Of Course, He Does *_-NOT-_* 😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️. Joel Embiid, Another _Great_ Player In The League Today. He Is By *_Far,_* The *Best* _Center_ *&* _Scorer_ In The *NBA **_&_** “ **_Yet_** ”Would 🫵🏾 Consider *Embiid* A *_Super✰ ?_* 🤔🧐, Me, Personally, I Could 👀 *Both* The Yes & No Arguments To *THIS* “1️⃣”. *IF* I Have To Say, I Could/Would Confidently Say That 🤔🤔💭💭🧐🧐 *YES, HELL YES 👍🏾!* Embiid Is A *_Super✰!!!_* There Are *Three* Scenarios _&_ Reasons That Makes Embiid A *_Super✰ !_* Which Are: 1. He Has *BOTH* His *_OWN_* EXCLUSIVE 👟 _&_ Athletic Gear Endorsement *With* Under Armour, 2. His #21 76ers Jersey Ranked 🔝 10 In Sales ( 9th, Ahead of Jokic _&_ *MANY* Guards, Like Lillard, Young *&* Ball) *&,* 3. Embiid Stir 🆙 *Emotions* In 🪭s. There Is _-No-_ In-Between With *Embiid;* 🪭s Either ❤️ Him Or 🤬 -Hate- 🤬 Him. Embiid Is Actually *Both* A *_Super✰_*_ &_ A *_Franchise Player._* In The Embiid 🆚 Jokic Parallel (I _Know_ You *NEVER* Brought 🆙 Jokic @ All, I Actually Did To Better _Articulate_ *&* Explain Gilbert’s Point), Embiid *Meets* _ALL_ Of The Criteria That @GilbertArenas Is Referring To About *NBA* *_Super✰s_* (@gilbertarenas Just Did *-NOT-* _Articulate_ It In The Best Way For Most/All To Comprehend). A _Great_ Example Of A Player (Past All ⌛️_Great_ ) That @GilbertArenas Is 🗣️ About In The 🎥 Is Karl Malone. 🆙 Until The 🐐, ♟ *_LeBron James_* ♟Surpassed Him Last Season, Karl Was The *N.B.A.’s* _ALL-⌛️_ 🔝Scorer _&_ *Won* -A- “✌🏾” ( *_That’s_* “2️⃣” *_MVP_* Awards, 💩 *TBH,* I 💭 He 🏆 _ONLY_ *1* ) *_MVP_* Awards🥇 In *1996-97* _&_ *1998-99* Seasons. During Karl’s *HOF* ( _Hall Of Fame_ ) Career, He Was *-NEVER-* Considered A *Super✰.* He Was *Most Definitely* 💯 A _Franchise Player !!!_ Karl *DID* Have His Own Signature 👟 With *_LA Gear._* He Also Had A 🔝 *”10”* _ All_ ⌛️ *BOSS* Nickname, *“The📫Man,”* _But_ His On Court Style (The Lame 😒 _-ssɐ-_ 🗽 *Dunk* 🤮🤮🤮& His Country _ssɐ_ 🐄🤠Dissimulate Satire Gussy-🆙 Giddy-🆙) Lacked _Showmanship_ *&* _Pizazz!_ A Very Great Player Who Is _Much_ Forgotten *_&_* Overlooked In The *_NBA’s_* History. Not To Elaborate Upon This Too Much Longer, The *_Antithesis_* To Karl Malone *Is* Charles Barkley. In Short, If 🫵🏾 Have Ever Watched *TNT* & You Already Know That Charles *_“Round Mound Of Rebound”_* Barkley Had _Everything_ Needed To Be A *NBA* *_Super✰_* _&_ A Franchise Player: 1. A *HOF* Personality, 2. *HOF* Charisma That _Was_ ( *TBH,* _STILL_ _Is_ ) *TOP 3* Today, 3. Had *BOTH* On _&_ The Court, The Greatest _’Best Friend’_ In 🏀 ( 💩 Sports) History, Michael Jordan 4. Major 👟 _&_ Apparel Deal With *_Nike_* (Shoes _Were_ Very Expensive & Popular) *&:* 5. He Was A 🐐 *PF* (More So Than Karl Malone, Arguably? A Terror @ *_6’4 ⅞”_*_ & _*_275lbs !_* Charles Barkley Was _BOTH,_ A Franchise Player *&* A *_Super✰!!!_* _Franchise Player•_ Is The *_Best_* Player On Their Team _&_ One ☝🏾 That A Team _Can_ Build Their *_"Franchise"_* Around !!! In The *NBA,* There Are _Usually_ @ Most “2️⃣” On A Team *&* _CURRENTLY,_ This Is *MY* Opinion, About 8️⃣ Or 9️⃣ Of Those _Elite_ Gentlemen *RIGHT NOW.ᐟ
@kappaman1994
@kappaman1994 11 ай бұрын
@@jetblack4206 @jetblack4206 • 🤔😆🧐😂 _Come On Brother!!!_ Let’s Dissect What @GilbertArenas _Said_ … • @GilbertArenas _IS_ *Basically* Correct About When He Said That It Takes More Than _Stats_ To Be A *_Super✰ !_* Jokic Stats Are _Impressive,_ *_BUT_* Jokic Is *-NOT-* A *_Super✰_* In The NBA (He _Is_ A _Franchise Player,_ *I’ll Explain Franchise Player Later On* ). Where Does Jokic’s #15 Nuggets Ranks As-Far-As Jersey Sales? Does Jokic Have A Signature Series 👟 Or Athletic Gear? Jokic’s Jersey Ranks About 18th. Jokic Does *_-NOT-_* Have A Signature Line Of 👟 _Or_ Athletic Gear Currently Available _BUT_ That Maybe 🤔 Changing In The Future🤞🏽. Does Jokic Move The 💉 With The 🪭s As-Far-As _Popularity_ Goes? Of Course, He Does *_-NOT-_* 😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️. Joel Embiid, Another _Great_ Player In The League Today. He Is By *_Far,_* The *Best* _Center_ *&* _Scorer_ In The *NBA **_&_** “ **_Yet_** ”Would 🫵🏾 Consider *Embiid* A *_Super✰ ?_* 🤔🧐, Me, Personally, I Could 👀 *Both* The Yes & No Arguments To *THIS* “1️⃣”. *IF* I Have To Say, I Could/Would Confidently Say That 🤔🤔💭💭🧐🧐 *YES, HELL YES 👍🏾!* Embiid Is A *_Super✰!!!_* There Are *Three* Scenarios _&_ Reasons That Makes Embiid A *_Super✰ !_* Which Are: 1. He Has *BOTH* His *_OWN_* EXCLUSIVE 👟 _&_ Athletic Gear Endorsement *With* Under Armour, 2. His #21 76ers Jersey Ranked 🔝 10 In Sales ( 9th, Ahead of Jokic _&_ *MANY* Guards, Like Lillard, Young *&* Ball) *&,* 3. Embiid Stir 🆙 *Emotions* In 🪭s. There Is _-No-_ In-Between With *Embiid;* 🪭s Either ❤️ Him Or 🤬 -Hate- 🤬 Him. Embiid Is Actually *Both* A *_Super✰_*_ &_ A *_Franchise Player._* In The Embiid 🆚 Jokic Parallel (I _Know_ You *NEVER* Brought 🆙 Jokic @ All, I Actually Did To Better _Articulate_ *&* Explain Gilbert’s Point), Embiid *Meets* _ALL_ Of The Criteria That @GilbertArenas Is Referring To About *NBA* *_Super✰s_* (@gilbertarenas Just Did *-NOT-* _Articulate_ It In The Best Way For Most/All To Comprehend). A _Great_ Example Of A Player (Past All ⌛️Great ) That @GilbertArenas Is 🗣️ About In The 🎥 Is Karl Malone. 🆙 Until The 🐐, ♟ *_LeBron James_* ♟Surpassed Him Last Season, Karl Was The *N.B.A.’s* ALL-⌛️🔝Scorer _&_ *Won* -A- “✌🏾” ( *_That’s “2️⃣” _*MVP_* Awards, 💩 *TBH,* I 💭 He 🏆 _ONLY_ *1* ) *_MVP_* Awards🥇 In *1996-97* _&_ *1998-99* Seasons. During Karl’s *HOF* ( _Hall Of Fame_ ) Career, He Was *-NEVER-* Considered A *Super✰.* He Was *Most Definitely* 💯 A _Franchise Player !!!_ Karl *DID* Have His Own Signature 👟 With *_LA Gear._* He Also Had A 🔝 *”10”* All⌛️ *BOSS* Nickname, *“The📫Man,”* _But_ His On Court Style (The Lame 😒 _-ssɐ-_ 🗽 *Dunk* 🤮🤮🤮& His Country _ssɐ_ 🐄🤠Dissimulate Satire Gussy-🆙 Giddy-🆙) Lacked _Showmanship_ *&* _Pizazz!_ A Very Great Player Who Is _Much_ Forgotten *_&_* Overlooked In The *_NBA’s_* History. Not To Elaborate Upon This Too Much Longer, The *_Antithesis_* To Karl Malone *Is* Charles Barkley. In Short, If 🫵🏾 Have Ever Watched *TNT* & You Already Know That Charles *_“Round Mound Of Rebound”_* Barkley Had _Everything_ Needed To Be A *NBA* *_Super✰_* _&_ A Franchise Player: 1. A *HOF* Personality, 2. *HOF* Charisma That _Was_ ( *TBH,* _STILL_ _Is_ ) *TOP 3* Today, 3. Had *BOTH* On _&_ The Court, The Greatest _’Best Friend’_ In 🏀 ( 💩 Sports) History, Michael Jordan 4. Major 👟 _&_ Apparel Deal With *_Nike_* (Shoes _Were_ Very Expensive & Popular) *&:* 5. He Was A 🐐 *PF* (More So Than Karl Malone, Arguably? A Terror @ *_6’4 ⅞”_*_ & _*_275lbs !_* Charles Barkley Was _BOTH,_ A Franchise Player *&* A *_Super✰!!!_* _Franchise Player•_ Is The *_Best_* Player On Their Team _&_ One ☝🏾 That A Team _Can_ Build Their *_"Franchise"_* Around !!! In The *NBA,* There Are _Usually_ @ Most “2️⃣” On A Team *&* _CURRENTLY,_ This Is *MY* Opinion, About 8️⃣ Or 9️⃣ Of Those _Elite_ Gentlemen *RIGHT NOW.ᐟ
@Aubknowball17
@Aubknowball17 11 ай бұрын
Since 2000 the only Mega Stars both off and on court has been Shaq Kobe Lebron Steph
@rodney9982
@rodney9982 11 ай бұрын
Iverson
@Aubknowball17
@Aubknowball17 11 ай бұрын
@@rodney9982 wasn’t that big overseas
@ahmadhasan9446
@ahmadhasan9446 11 ай бұрын
Some of these former players be talking absolute shhit😂
@mikeg8234
@mikeg8234 11 ай бұрын
Superstars: Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, KD, Tatum, Curry, Lebron, Kawhi, Luka and SGA. Stars: AD, Booker, Halliburton, Jimmy, Kyrie, Ant, Brunson, D Mitch, Fox, Dame, Ja, Trae, PG13
@Eniggma39
@Eniggma39 11 ай бұрын
I think Jimmy and Kyrie are superstar. Kyrie still leaving off 2016 and Jimmy is Jimmy Buckets
@lbape
@lbape 11 ай бұрын
disagree with kawhi when he won his ring turn him to super star
@3self
@3self 11 ай бұрын
Bro sga gotta do something in the playoffs before claiming he’s a superstar off one great season
@3self
@3self 11 ай бұрын
Waittttr lol how is SGA a superstar but a champion like kawhi isn’t ? 🧐
@mikeg8234
@mikeg8234 11 ай бұрын
Kawhi a Superstar for sure but he injured all the time, that’s why I had him as a Star. If he gets injured in the playoffs again, it’s probably his last year as a Superstar.
@noahjones3769
@noahjones3769 4 ай бұрын
I would much rather go with KMart's definition of only being 2 superstars. At least you don't have to worry about the term "superstar" or "megastar" being thrown around loosely to just anyone.
@disispeter
@disispeter 11 ай бұрын
The best thing about 2000s Steve Francis when the crossover highlight reels
@dt823
@dt823 11 ай бұрын
As crazy as it sounds I get what Gil is saying. A true superstar is someone who is either bigger than the game or someone who knows almost nothing about basketball will know using jersey sales and fan voting wouldn’t disprove his point simply bc the ppl buying these jerseys and voting in the asg are atleast casual fans. There are people who know absolutely nothing about basketball but know lebron and Steph curry
@eduardoalvarenga8973
@eduardoalvarenga8973 11 ай бұрын
But he said Steve Francis was a superstar, bro. And VC, and Tmac. None of those guys were ever close to that level of fame that you are talking about. He's just has a crazy bias towards the 00s
@Draeca
@Draeca 7 ай бұрын
Superstar means Gil remembers your name.
@lakerfan2874
@lakerfan2874 11 ай бұрын
A superstar can take a team to the Finals with what they have. We have a lot of franchise stars that everyone claims are superstars, but they haven't done anything in the league except be a huge regular season stat padder. An all-star is a complimentary piece that will help the franchise star or superstar win a ring. Role-players are one-dimensional players ready to play for any team. Then we have the benchwarmers and journeymen who will either stay with one team or always go to more than one team after 1 season because they're good enough for one team that season, or stay on one team for multiple years like Thanasis because of reasons being clear to be seen, or the team likes them that much. We also have stars who aren't always voter for being an all-star due to other stars more popular than them.
@TheLoyalKey
@TheLoyalKey 2 ай бұрын
Don’t forget LeBron avg 37ppg on McCants
@Cfcfinest
@Cfcfinest 11 ай бұрын
Being a superstar is how much you're known on a global scale. As a person who isn't from the US the only guys that would get mobbed in my country (UK) are Steph and LeBron. The rest may get recognised here and there but they'll primarily have their piece of mind. Literally happened to Jimmy when he came to London. Also happened to Giannis when he went back to Nigeria. No one knew him,
@peezydabeatmonster8112
@peezydabeatmonster8112 11 ай бұрын
Exactly I don't get how ppl don't understand that
@TheDJJProductions00
@TheDJJProductions00 11 ай бұрын
That point loses all logic when Gil brings up Steve Francis thoguh
@collegedropout2766
@collegedropout2766 11 ай бұрын
Steve francis being a superstar is crazy
@Doriii_
@Doriii_ 11 ай бұрын
superstar must mean most clouted
@peezydabeatmonster8112
@peezydabeatmonster8112 11 ай бұрын
Lol pretty much
@marcelpowell8854
@marcelpowell8854 10 ай бұрын
How you not know that
@jaywilliams5222
@jaywilliams5222 11 ай бұрын
Great wrk bro..these nba guys sound crazy ..they smoking sum shiiiiit...thx bro keep 💯
@recodatruth8860
@recodatruth8860 11 ай бұрын
Lmao..the steve francis bit made everybody walk off😅
@thefreshprince3294
@thefreshprince3294 11 ай бұрын
Jokic could definitely move a shoe, dentists be rocking the hell out of em
@liquel1603
@liquel1603 9 ай бұрын
Basketball roleplayers are defining who are the superstars 😂. What a funny joke this squad is.
@eahco8476
@eahco8476 11 ай бұрын
For me superstar means you’ve transcended basketball into pop culture, you’re a superstar if casual to non nba watchers know who you are for being him on the court, that’s just my opinion as a super casual nba fan
@WorldwideWyatt
@WorldwideWyatt 11 ай бұрын
This is the first time I’ve ever seen McCants cook.
@dreasdwolfox3435
@dreasdwolfox3435 11 ай бұрын
this man said steve francis lmaoooo
@professortoketcg
@professortoketcg 11 ай бұрын
Gil is the definition of “he just be saying shit 90% of the time”
@javalinjav
@javalinjav 11 ай бұрын
Maybe he means superstar needs to transcend his market or even the NBA. Peoples mom’s know who Lebron, Jordan, and Kobe are. But they probably aren’t going to know who Luca is.
@valdivws
@valdivws 11 ай бұрын
That Yao Ming take was crazy
@alvinavance5040
@alvinavance5040 11 ай бұрын
He’s absolutely right lebron and Steph is the absolute correct answer there in there on stratosphere
@edgardoMurnia
@edgardoMurnia 11 ай бұрын
Steph and LeBron.... no Jokic, no Giannis, no Embiid, no Luka... What those players have in common? Let me think?
@BiggestBirdonMars
@BiggestBirdonMars 4 ай бұрын
Low laughing got me laughing 😂😂😂
@3825004
@3825004 3 ай бұрын
I actually get what Kmart is saying. He means bigger than the game. Which I agree with. Steph and LBJ are bigger than the game.
@radical_drift1019
@radical_drift1019 11 ай бұрын
Steve francis had me weak XDDD
@UnkFloyd
@UnkFloyd 11 ай бұрын
It’s about marketability and personality
@_ogzay
@_ogzay 11 ай бұрын
Basically what I’m hearing is “since I’m not as funny during interviews as Anthony Edwards then I can’t be a superstar”
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