The Neo Geo CD - Review - Game Sack

Episode 104 - The Neo Geo was an amazing console that had perfect versions of the arcade game playable at home. They eventually released a CD version of the console to help more people to be able to afford it. So let's look at the system and a bunch of its games!
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[@arcade_signal]

You reset the system by pressing A-B-C-D and start together, no matter what you're doing. Much more convenient than a reset button!

[@softandwet7584]

@ironmike southern it was convenient 5 years ago

[@V0YAG3R]

no

[@greenkoopa]

Well...

[@visionop8]

beat me to it by 7 years

[@AlphaOmegaSin]

Crossed Swords always made me think about the Phantasy Star game battles, imagining both of those mixed together would be damn amazing 0___0

[@PickleRick91x]

AlphaOmegaSin sup alpha lol

[@jamesw3546]

Really? It reminds me of the times you’re using one of those big urinals and you cross pee streams with the guy next to you. That’s crossing swords (in the UK anyway).

[@HappyConsoleGamer]

Another fantastic episode!

[@DeathByEMP]

Amen, Johnny.

[@jjenk911]

Watching in 2019: Games like Samurai Shodown isn't known for being fast-paced nor combo heavy. It's mainly a footsy/heavy damage game. It's a thinking man's game where you need some strategy to help you win.

[@MetalJesusRocks]

Another awesome video as usual guys! I don't own the NeoGeoCD, but this video games me want to own one!

[@PickleRick91x]

Hey metal Jesus!

[@wornout_joystick]

I have been trying to emulate neo geo cd games on retropie and I still can't figure out how to get it to work. Any info will help.

[@csukosd]

Hidden Gems!

[@ธนากรอุลปราทร]

I love you Metal Jesus, you rock. I am your biggest fan from Thailand.

[@blastedquinn56]

MetalJesusRocks, I'm such a fan of game sack and you. i love both of your videos. i love retro gaming.

[@057wolf]

Game Sack is better than 98% of all television programming.

[@maximillionroivas3893]

PhilipsCDi Only 98%???? I disagree. It's better than 98.1% of all television programming.

[@zangiefcyclone4264]

As of now there is nothing on tv or movies that is better than game sack.

[@basteagui]

a few shows still running like always sunny, south park... clarkson's grand tour... jojo's bizarre adventure and captain tsubasa.... game sack is up there though.

[@DanielAyy]

If Game Sack was on TV, I would totally watch it

[@andrewbutler9533]

99!

[@TockTockTock]

I loved Viewpoint as a kid. I would always play it when I went to the dentist office, which had a Neo Geo MVS in their waiting room.

[@Pagaugezero]

Viewpoint is Amazing. I have the AES and CD

[@drunkensailor112]

What a great dentist

[@barryschalkwijk9388]

Mine only had dreadful anticipation and stale Donald duck magazines.

[@johncl3144]

Just got back from the thrift store. Didn't find The Last Blade for $5 :(

[@Mangia1432]

You know a lot of channels on KZbin use the term "show" very loosely, but you guys actually put the time and effort and have a great show. Still waiting on that Genesis episode though Joe. JK not really

[@grype83]

Just looked up the neo turf masters game for fun and seen it's selling for $20,000 right now on ebay...... I don't care how rare a game is that is a laughable amount of money to ask for any game let alone a golf game. I have played neo turf masters and i know it's fun and all but come on. Are people out there actually buying this crap?

[@DrewberTravels]

They must have raised the price because it is currently $21,249.94

[@Tankdomain]

OR, you could buy it on XBOX ONE for $11. Hamster Corp made an MVS perfect port with all the dip switches and everything included.

[@marklinstom5145]

With a reset button, the Neo Geo CD would have been 10 as much as the cartridge model. Reset buttons are worth more than gold and are used as currency in over 50 countries.

[@ultor7654]

A,B,C,D + start & select. This how to get a soft reset ffs...

[@cattusfattus6369]

@@ultor7654 That's not a reset button though.

[@benzaieTV]

Damn I didn't know there was a crossed sword 2

[@paotaitai]

haha benzaie t'es partout!

[@sergiofls7623]

Pao Tai Tai what language speaks you?

[@Hellwyck]

French

[@EpsilonDelta1]

HEHE ! Old friend !

[@TipsterLIVE]

I've always wanted to try the Neo Geo CD. Though I disagree with all the Neo Geo X hate. I have one and love mine.

[@ivannoriega225]

***** final burn alpha is better! than that piece of crap hahaha

[@shadowflash705]

***** Yeah, i can't get it, how it's possible to make such crappy emulation today when i played games at full speed without any glitches or hiccups on 333MHz K6-2 10 years ago, and TV out, especially composite, sucks balls, which is insult on Neo-Geo name - real systems have excellent video quality, with RGB and 21" Sony BVM monitor it looks awesome and even simple composite output with 21" 2003 Samsung CRT TV it looks great (i'm a bit lazy to make DIN to SCART cable for that TV). If you want a pocket Neo-Geo, just use PSP or one of those android consoles with open source emulators, and Neo-Geo X place is the trash can.

[@alexshadowfax1119]

It's so awesome to be watching this episode and I see a fighting game I remember playing at a friend's house but could never remember the name of the game or even the system it was on, but now I know, it's samurai showdown on the neo Geo, it's crazy to think I had a friend who could afford the system. Thanks for the video

[@iamlinxx_]

After watching this episode I went to ebay and searched Turf Masters and sure enough there is a copy on there for £11,000 ($19,000) LMAO good & luck with that one.

[@mitcheltondhomochevsky7765]

This ep made me go out and buy a Neo-Geo cd, got it for a cheap price and it came with a game. I love the consoles of the 90's and especially love 2d sprites so this was a must have...Saturn and Neo-Geo cd 4 lyfe!!!

[@rafambarrancos]

Do you know what would be f*cking awesome?? If they relauched this console nowadays. So many incredible games and and I've never seen a Neo Geo in my life.

[@dcb99filmz]

I've seen a few Neo Geo MVS cabinets here and there but none of em had KOF

[@jayc5413]

2:11 That Neo Geo CD Shrine is fucking epic.

[@n64glennplant]

awesome episode, i love my japanese gear and so the cdz looks like a must own for me!

[@Clesarie]

Might wanna heavily look into the cost of neogeo stuff before you make the plung.

[@n64glennplant]

yeah i know its expensive and i had most of the games on my mame cab anyway but still I'm a nut for japanese hardware and games

[@Overbound]

***** Plus you have a show to put on. :D Just keep those N64 reviews coming too because I love them.

[@Cameroo]

Awesome list. One of the small details I loved in Kabuki Clash was when you did a same character fight, the loser would turn into a Tanooki or Kitsune. Both japanese animals known to transform into humans in folklore. Just a neat touch. :)

[@valgalder]

Thanks for doing an entire episode on the Neo CD.. I feel it's definitely an overlooked system because of all the hardcore Neo Geo elitists that only believe the AES / MVS is real. Even though I also own a MVS cabinet, I still would never give up my Neo CD..

[@seanmyster6]

Karnov is supposed to be a Russian of Mongolian ancestry, hence his "Chinese" appearance in Karnov's Revenge.

[@IWillScoop]

I stayed up 'til midnight just to watch Game Sack.

[@arcadeutopia3035]

This is now my favourite KZbin channel. Thanks guys I love what you do :)

[@opsimathics]

with the retro game bubble spiraling out of control, I surmise a NGCDZ will cost about 32 thousand dollars by 2018

[@jesuszamora6949]

Just about. I imagine by 2020 they'll either be 50k, or resellers will come to realize that they've driven the actual players to emulation and the values will come down again.

[@rocker11281]

I stick to buying just the Games for my collection. I have a AES, which does'nt work an it is just for showing purposes. Neo Geo and Neo Geo CD can be emulated perfectly today. So if more people would think this way (collection the physical media mostly for the artwork) the prices would drop immedatly. As long as people are willing to pay those prices, as long they will stay this way.

[@PROShineKITO]

Nope, i bought one right now in ebay for around 200€, this is 2018

[@dinoleox1]

2018 Found a bunch for R$1000 with games which is about U$350

[@thecloak5203]

NOPE..ITS 2019 AND GOT ONE FOR 250 QUID.

[@CazTheGamerGuy]

Huh, so the Neo Geo does have games besides fighters and the Metal Slug series... I kid, great episode as always.

[@n0isyturtle]

I wonder if the ratio between the time I spend waiting for my NG:CD to load is comparable to the difference in money I would make working for that same amount of time, and spending the money on an MVS version of the same game instead. Perhaps, but I'm too impatient to do the calculations ;P

[@Yanks1005]

What is the best retro game channel on KZbin and why is it Game Sack?

[@MadPanicGaming]

Awesome episode! I absolutely love my NGCD, and I'd love to have a complete library for it eventually, I'm at about 75 games right now. Sadly, the CDZ has eluded me to this day.

[@mendyc158]

Can you recommend me some games? :D (No sports hahaha)

[@MadPanicGaming]

Well, I really like Mutation Nation which is an awesome beet 'em up, and there are a couple of Sonic Wings games too, those are some great shoot 'em ups.

[@mendyc158]

KidShoryuken Thx

[@SkyScourgeGod]

Did you reach your goal of a complete ngcd collection? I'm at about 40 myself so I still got a ways to go.

[@ComicBooksandVideoGameNerd96]

The Last Blade and Samurai Showdown are my favorite Neo Geo games.

[@matthewlane518]

Samurai showdown is so good it gives me shivers!!

[@lornaldtrump1594]

you two look like you enjoy crossing swords

[@Flint_Ironstagg]

they never even meanta dew it

[@foxyman9449]

Man when my phone alerts me of a new Game Sack video, I get so excited. This is my favorite channel, by far. My friend has a CDZ and he's thinking of selling it. Works perfectly still and I desperately want it. He's asking 500 for it and I just don't have that right now >.>

[@tetrisdave]

Hope you get it. Don't let him see this video as he might change his mind and remember all of the fun times he had with it.

[@foxyman9449]

David White Great idea but knowing him, he's probably watched it already. I got him hooked a few months back. Just hoping he lowers the price.

[@GenesisGameGenie]

I always look forward to new episodes of game sack. The neo geo CD is an interesting console, it's too bad its been mostly forgotten about.

[@alexalves76]

Samurai Showdown is an ok game? What? Are you serious?

[@SpaceKappa]

Great episode, fellas. I've always been interested in the Neo Geo CD as a cheaper alternative to expensive AES carts so it was nice to see such a comprehensive rundown of the library.

[@mmf0002]

hey Joe, good to see you here. you should make an episode about some of the NeoGeo games sometimes. i love your channel and i am a subscriber to it.

[@SpaceKappa]

Thanks for the kind words! I'd love to do a Neo Geo video, but I don't have a Neo Geo! I only do videos on games I physically own, since my show's all about great games you can get for cheap. Maybe someday!

[@zendell37]

Lol. Ok, did you remove the first digit of your "super popular" puzzle video views? Call me a nerd, but I pulled it up and it's got 14 thousand views. Sure, that's 14k views in two years versus the 15k views in 17 hours this one has gotten, but that's nothing to scoff at, guys.

[@UberMan5000]

I didn't know the Neo Geo CD was developed as a cost-effective alternative to the original Neo Geo system. I always just figured it was a response to the ill-conceived CD system boom of the early 90s, but I guess a cost-reduced version makes more sense for the Neo Geo.

[@maxgenius6080]

Great episode!, say you two have lost weight like hell!, man were you sick or something?, stop it, eat something, haha just a joke, great show keep the show on!

[@AmberShort]

It's official. I want you guys as my neighbors. :]

[@tetrisdave]

Are you a good cook? If so then I would consider it. :)

[@AmberShort]

Oh god. I make great foods. We also have bbq outings with our friends. You guys would probably hate me with our social gatherings at times.

[@Tiidonator]

Twinkle Star Sprites is one of my all time favorite games ! Just a total blast to play it, in every sense of the word hahahahahaha

[@Marcusmarcb0tI]

Space shooters are cool, and Twinkle Star Sprites looks cute, and I'd try playing that. But I'm just not a fighting game fan. Neo Geo Graphics were like combining SNES with Sega Genesis, and then injecting it with mild steroids. Some of those games were surprisingly polished. I bet 32X could match that quality, though. What's your take on that, cool cat?

[@Tiidonator]

Marcus I. 32X doesn't get close to NeoGeo, it runs out of steam at quarter way through :P

[@Marcusmarcb0tI]

I never had the privelage of playing a home NEO GEO console... Well except for the NEO GEO Pocket color. Yeah, 32X was Sega's biggest, but coolest mistake. The timestream would be very different if it weren't for that ugly black mushroom of an addon! :) Yet I have fond memories of Knuckles Chaotix, and a near perfect Space Harrier and After Burner arcade port.

[@OneUponADime]

Mr. Dave, you were right, sweet game, and imo a sweet shirt. Shirtwin is a tie, that Night Trap shirt is pretty awesome too :) I can't believe that Neo Geo cartridges were so damn expensive, that's unreal. I knew they were expensive, but damn. Metal Slug is the greatest run n' gun series in history dammit. I love the SNK stuff, it's almost all arcade game goodness, which I love. Any plans on doing more arcade game episodes? Great job as always guys, thanks for the goodness, and damn those after credit bits are entertaining :)

[@BigKingBacon]

brilliant show , you can really see how much care and effort is taken with every episode . thanks guys i really look forward to these

[@IoriYagamiBR]

I think this was your best video, guys! Congratulations for this awesome episode! Game Sack

[@Rippard]

Best produced show on KZbin....hands down.

[@tak178]

Agreed!

[@joeycarter9020]

Your show is better than a lot of the game review videos out there. Some ideas for episodes and opinions. Bad voice acting in games. Show less Shooters. Coop 16 bit games. Left in Europe. Theres always been lots of talk about Mario and Sonic. Bonk for turbografx was the competing mascot. Could do a brief history on him. Be amusing to see you two switch roles. Joe acts like Dave and vice versa.

[@saffojo1]

I would love to see you guys tear into super old systems... Atari, Odyssey 2, ColecoVision... I know thats not your bag (or Sack) but I would love to hear Joe have to say ".003 mega power!" before a KC Munchkin review..

[@KawaiiGames]

Lots of great games

[@yiddishpilot]

One of the best gaming channels on KZbin...they should have way more subscribers.

[@KaskelotenZebbe]

Good one! Ending was nice, but it gave me a more extreme idea for an ad: "The Neo Geo CD - Finally homeless bums can enjoy the 24-bit power!" :)

[@shinobiwarrior1000]

When it comes to quality SNK never failed, not a single mediocre or shitty game on the SNK Arcade library. And that's why i always love their games.

[@bunnyfreakz]

+Rodrigo wolf Absolutely, those 2D background retro is beautiful. If they make a JRPG with same artstyle, its will blow

[@EATONE818]

+bunnyfreakz wat game?

[@rocker11281]

But it's all arcadestyle games. I wish they would have used the hardware for some other genres in those days. A RPG or Action Adventure for the AES oder CD would have been awesome. On the big cartridges you had about 80 MB (640 Mbit) of space. If they went with smaller sprites there would have been plenty of space putting Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 to shame in 1994/1995, which had t o deal wtih 4 MB of Space on the SNES-cartridge.

[@snkneogeoman]

Excellent episode! The Neo CDZ didn't have a double speed cd drive, it had larger amount of cache, which cut down the loading times. Also, Samurai Shodown had weak, medium & strong attacks on the first 2 games.

[@BasementBrandon]

Another great episode. Nice work guys.

[@Saxcat20]

This is the one show on KZbin I never miss. Great job guys!

[@ajgnexus]

that rallying game gets serious brownie points for having an actual toyota celica, mitsubishi lancer evo and a subaru impreza wrx. all classic and killer rally cars.

[@assadi89]

My Ex-GF used to kick my ass in Bust-A-Move

[@Norrbottning]

Isometric games work better when there's no auto scrolling. Games like Landstalker and Super Mario RPG are preferable.

[@dogmd7]

Game Sack console episodes are the best episodes.

[@vankook]

HA HA HA! You've proven to me that you have more money than sense.

[@jonweng]

cant stop. watching. this channel. too much. awesome.

[@ClassicGamerReviews]

Ughhh here I was working on my next review and Game Sack appears in my subscription feed...Oh well I can push my stuff back

[@nickolasecker9596]

Contemplating buying one of these because of just how ridiculous AES collecting has become. I was contemplating buying an AES and a converter but that's easily $600 right there wheras I have seen bundles on eBay that come with two controllers and a few games for $250. What would you guys reccomend?

[@l8erh8er420]

Appreciate the laughs and for that game I will give you a 6.710 dollhairs

[@xtremekirby07]

Cool episode!:D Am I the only one that Twinkle Star Sprites's mechanic and gameplay reminds of Touhou 3 Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream for the PC-98?

[@tripdefect87]

DAVE IS WEARING A GOLDEN AXE SHIRT, THE UNIVERSE IS IMPLODING IN ON ITSELF!!

[@iClone316]

As I stated on their Facebook page a couple weeks ago, this is the only KZbin subscription I anticipate new videos on. For some reason I can't find my comment on their page anymore though....

[@FIXTREME]

This is the perfect system for taking the cdrom drive out and switching to a sd card slot

[@neshead80]

I love this show.

[@SolidErik]

The system actually has a controller reset. Hold ABC and press start to return to the main menu.

[@iansteels6265]

i think SNK missed a big opportunity with the CD system. Just releasing old titles again is OK but they could of opened it up for more 3rd party developers.

[@drunkensailor112]

Why on earth would third party developers create 2d custom made games for a system that was niche to begin with

[@mchief190]

I love SNK, it's just too bad they haven't done anything really big as of late with the only thing to my recollection being KOF 14, which is growing on me despite that lousy initial teaser. It's also been around 6 years since we had a new Metal Slug game, the least SNK can do is port over the remaining 4 main line games over to the PC, hell I will even take the disappointing 3D game. Yeah I grew up with SNK more than Capcom and Sega and I consider them being an important part in gaming history.

[@korohacker]

Ouch, that slap has got to hurt. And wtf, $8000 for a cartridge?! That's just crazy xD

[@korohacker]

***** Profit!

[@bunnyfreakz]

+GamingTV Good luck

[@korohacker]

Erm, so, I checked eBay on a whim, and I saw an offer for Neogeo Turf Master AES for USD 20,000, and the CD version for 1k. Just.... wow And the MVS cartridge is only about USD200 =w=

[@Epsilonsama]

Last Blade on Neo Geo CD loading time gives me Sonic 06 flashbacks.

[@NickNitro03]

Why don't these dudes have more subscribers??

[@jonfosterbeatles]

As a kid I dreamed of owning a neo geo...wanted it soooo damn bad. After watching this video I can truly say that I still want it soo damn bad. Literally every game looks fun. Guess I'll buy that SNK game if its still in the ps store.

[@xnet-pvzok728]

Dave was so funny. Sad he left

[@BladeBlur]

I gotta say, putting Double Down from Sonic Lost World made me one happy guy :)

[@Psychobabas]

Fantastic presentation guys. Really, really well done. 10/10

[@KWKBOX]

I have a CDZ with a region switch. Most games have tolerable load times but if you have played the game on an AES/MVS you may not have much patience for this system. I solely bought this system so I could play Crossed Swords II. Nothing beats a medieval multiplayer punchout game. I also like the prices of the CD games with tolerable load speeds compared to the AES/MVS counterparts mostly.

[@BlueNightZX]

One of the best episodes guys Really loved to see all those neo geo obscure fighting games Cheers from brazil!

[@mcbain1318]

2:35 ,a+b+c+select button= reset.

[@swissmrkc]

Great episode guys keep ti up.

[@everythingphil9376]

Metal Slug is amazing! Wish I had enough quarters to play it more back in the day.

[@spaarkamusprime6475]

Ahh the Neo Geo CD. Great memories. Thanks for this guys. Great ep.

[@HiroPlaysGames]

Dave and Joe both wearing Sega shirts... what is this world coming to?

[@ToruKun1]

That was probably the funniest ending gag you guys have done on the show

[@SNKManiac]

Great episode and great console. I also suggest Shinsetsu Samurai Supirittsu: Bushidō Retsuden, or also know has Samurai Shodown RPG. Really good RPG overall, but with a lot of loading time.

[@MerolaC]

Dat Ending...

[@Brojman]

...is the best!

[@Lastcastor]

lol

[@N0cturno999]

My Neo CD died a long time ago but I still have my KoF and Samurai Shodown collection. Great video!

[@Gurki]

thank you for the very good retro games video. game sack have a little bit fans in germany :D mfg gurki

[@tofu042]

indeed :)

[@dadabubz2674]

I have yet to see an episode of game sack that I didn't like. Great job guys!.....Is it just me or did Joe lose some weight?

[@solofalcon]

His wait time was cut in HALF!

[@ivannoriega225]

great episode guys! but why no King of Fighters? i know the load times can be frustrating on these ones haha but kof94 holds up hehe, no loads between rounds... the guy who lends you the system didint have a kof game?

[@shingoldenwarrior]

i asked the same question but he does have 95 on aes

[@GameSack]

We're saving them for another time.

[@guyonabudget5209]

Holy Crap! This system looks freaking awesome!!!!!!!

[@VideoGameTakeOut]

Last Blade is incredible. It's a shame about those load times. :(

[@lugiaboy2]

Still less loading times than Sonic 06.

[@ArcadeMagician]

Very nice review! No reset? NOOBS!!! Hold ABC and press Select to reset the game. Hold ABC and press Start to go to the CD interface.Cheers!

[@Alexis40ar]

Broadcast quality show here!

[@ThisIsPete]

So glad you can get Neo Turf Masters on other systems for less than eight thousand dollars today. That game is great. ON THA GLEEEEEEEN!!!

[@brutravain]

Always awesome! Way to go Joe & Dave!

[@nweditor875]

I love the Neo Geo CD hands down my favorite CD console of that time, Love the library of games. When it comes to Last Blades I would recomand the japanese PS2 version, or get digital on swithch,steam or PS4.

[@norriszappa25]

This was a great review but there is a couple things I'd like to mention: 1. you can reset the system from the controller by holding down all 4 buttons and the start button 2. I'd recommend you get the tototek controller converter to play this system with ps2 controllers. they're way better than the neo geo controllers and much more affordable

[@reesercliff]

actually most MVS versions are cheaper than the Neo CD versions, Metal Slug is $40-$60 on MVS and $100+ on the Neo CD. Heh I got Last Blade for the MVS for $18 including shipping haha and Neo Turf Masters for $28. Basically the Neo Geo MVS is the Sams club of Neo Geo collecting, it's rather expensive to get into it as you have to buy either a consolized MVS or arcade cab but then the games are extremely affordable.