The new A600GS. Is it the new Amiga desktop I hoped for?

[@charlottesimss9853]

Anytime I come across an Amiga video I’m so confused but happy for this lil community. I’ll never understand what an amiga is but shoutout to yall

[@MarekKafarek-o2p]

it's simple - computer, just different than windows pc we know now, something like Mac vs PC now, or Atari vs young Apple, in short all are computers, just kinda different ;)

[@proteque]

I guess it is all about the timing in life for me. The A500 was miles ahead of the 8 bit computers that was in use prior to it. And for me I also used it in my youth and never really managed to quite capture that feeling it gave me when using my Mac. I did in my later youth use Linux though so setup how I like it (pretending to be AmigaOS) that also gives me much the same joy. Another key element for me was the later years when Commodore went bankrupt and all the rumors and dreams in those years. Such an exciting time to be passionate about it. So it kinda stuck. So Nostalgia is the word I guess? :) A bit like last generation had for the cars they liked and dreamed about as youths.

[@ww4102]

Amiga is nostalgia on steroids

[@SJSsesco]

For us Amiga users AMIGA still RuLeZ😂

[@brugj03]

An Amiga is an ancient computer from commodore, introduced in the 80`s, about 40 years old. Back then it was very nice, today however it`s just a museum piece. Ancient technologie.

[@proteque]

Pinned status update: Got an update from Amigakit to the system (OTA update). And after that update DB9 joystick now works and launching octamed from the launcher works. The DB9 setup is lost for every reboot which is very annoying. But at least it works now. So if games is what you want it for, the most important bug is fixed it seems. Amibench is still a bit unstable/slow. That is expected to improve when more libraries getting optimized for running on ARM.

[@MyAmazingUsername]

Hey man, I really like your calm and relaxed style. You are the perfect Nostalgia channel. I'll subscribe now. :) My friend had an Amiga as a kid and I loved that system!

[@proteque]

Thanx a lot for your kind words. Did your friend have an A500? That is what me and most of my friends had.

[@MyAmazingUsername]

​@@protequeYeah, that's right, an Amiga500 with a cardboard box with over 200 floppies with manually written labels. ;D Like everyone else. I remember some of my favorite games. Lemmings. Prince of Persia. Cannon Fodder. GoldenAxe. Another World. Civilization. UFO Enmy Unknown. Moonstone. Worms. We used to gather around it, 4-5 of us, taking turns and having an awesome time. Absolute best computer of that era! ❤

[@another3997]

I know I'm probably in a tiny, tiny minoritym but unfortunately I find his voice and style to be the opposite. The monotone voice, the slow pace of speech, the frequently interspersed "eeerrrrr" sounds... they all annoy me. I do like the technical content and the information in his videos, it's just the audible presentation that triggers me. It could be worse... I once had a manager who would frequently stop talking part way through a sentence, and then carry on after maybe 30 seconds of uncomfortable silence. That really was infuriating. 😂

[@proteque]

@@another3997 luckily there are tons of other channels to watch ;) But I understand your point. I have it like that with some things in life as well.

[@larrycastee86]

Hello All, very thrilled to find a Amiga community once again. I ran a BBS(Control Room/Color 64) back in '85-01.. Really excited to see something to bring the forgotten memories of the Amiga. Hope to see more!

[@proteque]

Welcome :) I only managed to capture the last years of the BBS era myself. As a youth. But glad I was able to experience it a bit before internet got mainstream.

[@larrycastee86]

@@proteque Glad to hear you were a user during that era. I sometime think of the people I have met during those times. There was a closeness among us and, so ironic how we thought the IBM machines were like robots, too funny! Thanks for the reply. I hope to get one of the a600's for old-times sake. Could you forward to me where to look? TIA!

[@proteque]

@@larrycastee86 Sure! They can be bought from here: amigakit.amiga.store/a600gs-p-91329.html

[@keyboard_g]

For amiga enthusiasts Amiberry and PiMiga are so far ahead. For curious gamers, the A500mini is there. Right now, I just don’t see a market fit.

[@proteque]

@@keyboard_g I would love if this project could put a new fire in the AROS developement. So for that I really hope they iron out the problems and managed to gain some momentum.

[@DevilMaster]

And everyone can use WinUAE with the PC they already have, with a total expense of zero.

[@proteque]

@@DevilMaster absolutely. Hobbies is often not about what makes sense. It is a bit like some people use expensive clothes even though they have warm and comfy clothes allready in their closet. Makes no sense, but brings them joy. Like things like this do to me.

[@mrttype]

Appreciate the honest review - too many KZbinrs give glowing reviews focusing on only the positive aspects of a device. Perhaps because of emotional attachment to a brand or, worse, a free device.

[@henriquebpimentel]

Your video is very good, I hope that in the future the A600GS will come with a keyboard like the Amiga, more powerful, so that we can really use it as a computer and replace Windows!!! That's my dream.

[@proteque]

yeah. that would rock. There is a new browser out for AROS now. So it could be less painful than you imagine to work on the modern web etc! :) BTW! they have fixed tons of stuff on the A600GS, so I think it is closing in on time to make a new video about it :)

[@henriquebpimentel]

@@proteque A new video with the improvements that have been made would be great.

[@funfant]

I did use the OctaMED SoundStudio Pro on my Amiga 1200 + Apollo 060 back in the days. I guess this octamed test nowadays does affect tens of people globally though...

[@proteque]

In the end I managed to become one of the 060 people as well :) lovely setup, the 1200 with 060. The Octamed launcher on the A600GS works like it should now after some updates. So if you are interested in this new version the A600GS may actually be a good choice. I plan to dig back into it in a while to show how it is now that things do work. It is a cool little AROS computer!

[@HKvalhe]

Great video! Of course, the start is usually a troubled beginning but I also believe it has potential. ARM for the Amiga is the future. Using AROS as a source to build up from is the right thing to do. Looking forward to see more native ARM technology on it. Keep it up 🥰❤️🙏

[@proteque]

@@HKvalhe thanx Helge. I think ARM is the future for most computers. So it is the sane choise moving forward! Eager to see where this heads.

[@HKvalhe]

@@proteque Indeed. Fully agree 👍

[@BerndFelsche]

I think I spotted your problem: No beer!😊

[@proteque]

@@BerndFelsche no beer IS indeed the problem :D

[@roberthazelby4424]

An excellent video. I knew that with you reviewing this we’d be treated to a detailed and fair review. I think the system has potential. If the bugs can be ironed out and regular updates are issued this could potentially be a decent modern “Amiga”.

[@proteque]

@@roberthazelby4424 thanx a lot for your kind words. And I agree. So far the updates has been coming. And when I needed support with mine (the update itself broke), I got quickly the help I needed (needed a reflash). So I am still hoping for this to become what I thought it was. And my biggest hope is that this gives some momentum for Aros.

[@janseger1693]

Kul video för Amiga..;)hoppas se mer framöver.

[@proteque]

Takk. Ja det blir nok ikke siste Amiga-videoen dette nei! :)

[@andrewfield176]

Thank you for this video - really useful and interesting. We’ve just taken delivery of an A600GS and haven’t even connected it up yet. Hoping for all the fixes soon as connecting an original joystick was a major reason to try and play original Amiga games on it. We shall see! Thanks for the video and demonstrations.

[@proteque]

They release an update a few days ago. rumored to fix some of the problems I had! Need to get some time to test it myself asap! Hope you get what you hoped for out of the A600GS. For playing games (once they figure out the joystick problems a lot (but not all) people have), it will be a good system for that like it is now.

[@andrewfield176]

@@protequeThank you - much as you described I hope to use it for a range of things. The name including ‘games system’ does focus it more there though!

[@A600GS]

Under the Amisphere menu there is a Downloads section. New games are available to install in one click: Biplanes, Deluxe Galaga, Tanx, Movem, Rollerpede, Super Obliteration and more being added on a weekly basis. Update to the latest system software for all the new features. Since your video was made, AmiBench has been enhanced in speed.

[@AmigaVR]

Synd , det blir en nei takk for meg enn så lenge. Du få holde oss oppdatert. Jeg er en Amiga entusiast og elsker The A500mini sammen med AGS og Aminimiga🤘🏻

[@proteque]

Ja. Tror nok du har et ganske ok setup der. Animiga er jo litt stas mtp at det bruker magic wb og slikt. Skikkelig noatalgitripp :)

[@FredrikRambris]

Getting AROS completely ported to ARM will be super. If OS4 would be started today, they would have made it for ARM and not PPC. ARM and Amiga are a very nice fit.

[@proteque]

Yes absolutely! a LOT of things has been fixed with the A600GS since I made this video. I hope to be able to make a follow up.

[@TheDesertBlizzard]

AROS is slow on the Vampire also, but not nearly that slow. Between this and the Vampire working on the AROS project, I hope to see some magic before we all get too much older. In the meantime, AmigaOS on the Vamprie is super nice. Perhaps an option to install your own copy of AmigaOS on the A600GS will be possible in the future for those that would prefer that.

[@proteque]

Thanx for the info. So it seems that AROS on 68k (being it an emulated 040 or the 080 in the vampire) may be the issue then. I am considering trying AROS 68k on another Amiga of mine for some compare. The 600GS does support importing hdf and rom files. So it is very doable to move your own setup there. I should have been more clear about it when mentioning what it could import, and not just mentioning the formats.

[@TheGalacticIndian]

AROS is slow on Vampire because 95% of the code is rubbish and has to be rewritten from scratch. Why AROS on Vampire? Only because of the legal and IP trolling situation with Amiga OS. If any version of AmigaOS was made public domain, there would be no need for AROS on Vampire. Can we see some magic before we all get too old? Of course😎

[@dozern]

This is a borderline scam at this point. They are using an Orange Pi zero 3 (that's €25 from aliexpress), a custom pcb (which is cheap, but nothing wrong with that) and an opensourced version of AmigaOS (AROS) to avoid the heaps of issues that come with all the "other" amiga-emulators. Two programs crashes upon startup. I'm guessing their testers didn't do much of a job there.. ... As you said. At the moment, this ain't it. Let's hope for better things to come along.

[@proteque]

@@dozern I would love for AROS to get some momentum. And I hope some bugfixing irons out the things in the 600gs. So they using AROS was something I was happy about. Was hoping for something else than standard 3.x emulation. But something with less bugs and slowdowns. Hope and think things improve through updates I am still hopefull,and regarding the hardware I don't mind they used something available.

[@todorkolev7565]

Hi, I am a tester and I would like to seed doubt in your heart that indeed a tester was responsible for these crashes. Not everything that we report ends up getting fixed!

[@jnharton]

Something with a similar aesthetic/design to the Raspberry Pi 400 would be a really sweet look.

[@therebelalliance-starwarss8302]

Great video. I was on the fence about getting one of these. For now, I'll stick with my Pistorm A2000EATX until the issues get worked out.

[@proteque]

Pistorm on the 2000 remake? Sounds like the perfect setup! The A600GS is getting fixes. So if interested in the Aros path I would not give it up yet.

[@A600GS]

This video is very out of date and dozens of software updates and improvements have been made in the last few months. We actively are updating the system on a week by week basis. Downloadable updates are free for users.

[@vertigoz]

This is the new Amiga you're looking for... Jedi mind trick

[@cybernit3]

You think they would ever have Open source AmigaOS like Linux; then you just compile for the cpu/gpu you have? Like you say in the video the 68k emulation isn't good. Thanks for warning us about this crashing, but they better fix this asap.

[@proteque]

@@cybernit3 maybe not everyone know, but actually AROS is open source. It can run nativly on intel at least. So should be doable to get running on ARM as well. (I need to check the current status tbh) This is why I cheer for it. It is a recreation though, so not 100% the same. In a way it is also one of the systems I put in the Amiga Next Generation bag myself. Together with MorphOS and AmigaOS 4.x

[@20windfisch11]

Since this is obviously also an emulation based system, how hard would it be to install a real AmigaOS?

[@proteque]

Not very hard. I think I was a bit unclear. But it supports adding hdf and own roms. That translates to transfering your own setup. Maybe I should make a video showing? For me the hope was a good aros desktop. But I am not abandoning it. Updates are comming.

[@illegalquantity]

You better use WinUAE on a medium PC and you'll have any Amiga that you want from A500 to A1200. I recommend AIAB, which is a surface that can be installed on Workbench 3.1, and you will have a really nice system.

[@Horrordelic]

Endelig noen testa skikkelig.. Men kan du installere mui og ibrowse, kjøre online, siste hippoplayer feks og multitaske.. Hva med AmigaAmp eller lignende for Mp3 ? Rask nok for videofiler ?

[@Horrordelic]

Ah i see the hippo error now.. Any software works in amibench or it must be recompiled for aros or whats up ?

[@proteque]

Veldig varierende rett og slett. Men det er aros 68k så mye fungerer. Desverre er totalopplevelsen fortsatt et stykke unna noe jeg vil bruke. Men det kommer mye oppdateringer. Derfor har jeg ikke avskrevet den helt . Dersom den ender opp som noe jeg liker skal jeg oppdatere med ny video. Hvis du vil se ca kompatiblitet så er enkleste veg aros i uae rett og slett.

[@bigd5090]

Once THEA500 Maxi is out, it'll be nice to see the two machines battle for people's bucks!

[@proteque]

@@bigd5090 yes. I wonder what kind of system that will be!

[@samuelbanya]

You should do a tour of your computer lab setup my dude. Cool video as usual.

[@proteque]

@@samuelbanya thank you kind sir. Actually I was considering making one of those for the "wow I passed 1k" celebration video. Was unsure if that would be of interest to anyone though.

[@samuelbanya]

@@proteque I am always looking for ideas personally since I really just have two desks in the basement corner for stuff :)

[@lordwiadro83]

Is it possible to connect it to a 4:3 or 5:4 monitor? TheC64 as far as I know can only work with widescreen monitors, which is a huge bummer for me.

[@proteque]

I have not tested! But I will give it a try. I plan to revisit in a month or so. Will try to remember to answer you then! If I forget: please poke me!

[@lordwiadro83]

@@proteque Perfect, thanks :)

[@oldschoolgameblog7358]

Takk for flott review av A600GS! 🙂Den ga svar på mange spørsmål jeg hadde. Jeg har en bestilling inne selv hos AmigaKit, men antar jeg er et stykke bak i køen. ;-) Bestilte tidlig i juli. Ser fra videoen at den er ganske treg i AmiBench og det synes jeg var litt skuffende, men forhåpentligvis blir det bedre i fremtiden slik du nevner. Har lyst til å teste Hollywood på den, men med hastigheten den har nå kommer det nok til å gå tregt. ;-) Takk igjen for knallbra review, gleder meg til flere videoer om A600GS!

[@proteque]

Takk. bra du likte reviewen. Tok en stund før jeg fikk min jeg og. Bestilte i starten av juni og fikk i slutten av juli en gang (husker ikke nøyaktig dato nå). Jeg har på ingen måte gitt den opp, men har tatt en pause fra den frem til jeg ser det er gjort endringer som går på bibliotekene eller AROS direkte. Uansett er den allerede i vesentlig bedre stand enn den var når jeg lagde reviewen. Så ting skjer. Håper du blir fornøyd med din!

[@oldschoolgameblog7358]

@@proteque Takk for det! :-) Fikk beskjed av AmigaKit at maskinen er på vei i posten (sendt tidligere i uka), så forhåpentligvis er den her neste helg. Ser at det har blitt lansert mange oppdateringer ja, så det er lovende. 🙂Ønsker deg en fortsatt god helg!

[@SirChristian100]

"Oh, a professional thumbnail" - of course its a video from you

[@proteque]

@@SirChristian100 haha the moment when I have no idea if you are sarcastic or not. So I choose to think you are sincere :) thank you :)

[@SirChristian100]

@@proteque 100 % sincere!

[@sacredbanana]

Does it have networking support and what version of AmigaOS does it ship with (or is it AROS)? Wondering if AmigaGPT would work on it. Edit: OK just got to the end. It's AROS based... no ReAction support. Gotta wait for the MUI based AmigaGPT 2.0 =D

[@proteque]

@@sacredbanana looking forward to seeing that come to life! :)

[@VilleHelin]

I have a question: I'm currently using WinUAE to build my ANSI C assembler and make release executables that way. Would A600GS provide me a better "Amiga" to make the executables? They should also then work on a real Amiga with native 68k CPU. Will the AROS in A600GS break anything? Or could I use A500 Mini instead? I know nothing about A500 Mini or A600GS...

[@proteque]

Winuae is perfect for your usecase to be honest. And it would be my goto for such tasks. It works a lot better than the A600gs for making sure you are compatible with real Amigas. I think the A500mini is a bit weak to be able to test everything as well. Especially if you make something with heavy use of copper. I would just continue with winuae or if I wanted a dedicated system go for something with an updated amiberry setup (like amikit) or a mist/mister fpga based system. What are you making btw? Your own personal compiler or something I could have a look at?

[@VilleHelin]

@@proteque Thanks! Amiberry stuff looks interesting. Here’s the assembler: github.com/vhelin/wla-dx and here’s a compiler based on that: github.com/vhelin/SameSameC

[@proteque]

@@VilleHelin thanx. I will def. have a look!

[@VilleHelin]

@@proteque Actually AmiKit for either Windows or Pi 5 (would be fun to assemble a mini Pi 5 "Amiga" computer) is what I'm going to get! Thank you for the infos!

[@newkfromrotterdam]

When you said OctaMED and saw the OctaMED 8 splash i was stoked to see it! But too bad it crashed :(( edit: ah you got it working later in video !! 8D thanx!

[@proteque]

Would love to hear from someone who know OctaMED how well it works with the new version. I only started it and played one of the tracks that was already there. I only used Protracker and Digibooster myself back in the days. And must admin I strugle to do any real tracking when I try to revisit Protracker these days. Gotten used to modern DAWs over the years.

[@hegemon8]

Cheers for another cool video. As a former owner of Amiga 600, I was hoping for better desktop experience, but with time I guess it will. (Notion of selling You unfinished product for a full price annoys me tho). Moving back to Poland relatively soon, so hope to attend some Amiga conventions. Maybe I'll pick up some old Intel NUC and stick my Amiga soft on it. Too bad I don't have my old joysticks (QuickJoy II Turbo SV-124, and QuickJoy III Supercharger SV-123 that my brother was using. Had as well QuickJoy MegaStar SV-133 that I reinforced and was giving my less delicate friends to play with ^^) Just thinking about them got reminded me the smell of that plastic. Anyways, had a chance to run that Amiga FantaVision yet? I noticed it isn't much on the retro amiga scene about it.

[@proteque]

Cheers, and thanx! Poland is huge on Amiga. Still is! So must be a good place to be when digging into this interest. A nuc or a n100-machine is a nice setup I think. And if you want to head for old joysticks there are nice usb to amiga joystick-interfaces to use. I have personally tested the one from Monster Joystick with much luck. Should be doable to find some Quickjoy-sticks! Not had a chance to dig into FantaVision yet. I had some time off work for traveling. I have put it into my "remember to check this" notes though. For when life gets a bit less buzy! Cheers!

[@Geordie-Jedi-77]

Thanks for this video, it's really interesting. I was thinking of getting an A600GS and was wondering what others experiences were of the device. I also appreciate your honesty, showing both the positives and the negatives with this machine. Helps us make a more informed decision, when deciding if we're gonna buy one ourselves. 1. Did you ever get the D-9 joysticks to work properly ? 2. If so, did you notice any lag or reduction in lag between a proper "old skool" connection, and a modern USB gamepad ? Great stuff. Keep up the cracking work Proteque Cheers.

[@proteque]

@@Geordie-Jedi-77 thanx mate! I haven't had the time to revisit it yet. However I know there is a new update. So once I get some time to test it I will give you a better answer!

[@Geordie-Jedi-77]

@@proteque Outstanding, looking forward to it !

[@josephphillips9243]

I don't want to put it down. Amiga needs any innovation it can get. A package manager is a wonderful thing for the whole of the renaming ecospace. For me personally if I can't get real hardware then, PiAmiga and AGS in that order are the way to go. To me the A500 Mini was a waste of money, not even an Evian to tap water comparison. A600 feels too similar to A500 mini.

[@proteque]

I get what you are saying. I am not giving up on this though. So I still have hopes that updates will improve it.

[@rolux4853]

I am happy about every piece of hardware that gets released. That means there is still a little market left and Amiga isn’t drifting into obscurity like some other brands did.

[@GeminiNight]

May I please ask where you got the keyboard case from? That looks so nice! Thanks

[@proteque]

@@GeminiNight absolutely. The case is from checkmate1500 in uk. And the keycaps are from a1200.net .

[@GeminiNight]

@@proteque Amazing! Thank you so much! They have some really cool stuff!

[@proteque]

@@GeminiNight they do. I have their desktop case as well. I love it. very high quality on all parts. (if interested I did do an unboxing of the case. Will add the link in the next comment (not sure if YT hides links)

[@proteque]

@@GeminiNight kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWbGm5Z_Z75sgKMsi=LUVk0rBsIKNzkPDn

[@vertigoz]

He did it again!!

[@proteque]

Me? What did I do? :) talking about Amiga again? Hehe

[@HivernaalChannel]

Do you only can import .adf files or is it possible to import an entire drawer and it's content ?

[@proteque]

hard disk images and whdload works as well. So not just adf-files.

[@HivernaalChannel]

Great thank you

[@ej197us]

Babylon 5 first few seasons was rendered on an amiga farn using toasters

[@proteque]

Used to brag about that to friends using PC at the time. Fun times.

[@FrancescoSblendorio]

I had a good experience with the old MIST FPGA

[@proteque]

Hard to beat the MIST! The mist and the mister is my favourite ways to experience the Amiga (besides real hardware). Great choice :)

[@danielktdoranie]

A600GS… the GS must stand for “Goes Slow”. Disappointing product.

[@proteque]

@@danielktdoranie like it is now it is hard to disagree. Works okay for gaming though. Fast enough for such use. But that was not what I wanted to use it for.

[@cv643d]

How is the sound quality

[@proteque]

I have only used my ears at some games I know the sound in well, because of the issues I had with the desktop enviroment. Not done any additional testing so I can't answer for how good it is if your goal is to produce music with it (in octamed or something like that) and record directly from the output for digital release etc. But at least not any noise or things like that I was able to hear. If that answers anything? :)

[@BenVaserlan]

It's a skined Linux-based O.S. according to Chat GPT 4.

[@dragonbleu1205]

4:57 It's AROS ROM. This system is totaly buggy and not compatible with so many 68k native Amiga software. It's the same problem with the AROS into the Apollo V4+ !! It's why i never use it and format all with true Amiga ROM...

[@proteque]

It could be that AROS is the main reason it does not work well. And the ironically the same reason I wanted it. I truly hope AROS steps up and gets more use and development! However it is also a bit under powered I have noticed. So it is not just the AROS side of it it seems.

[@dragonbleu1205]

@@proteque Ok thanks you for your precision. I can only juge by my experience in AROS so I believe you for the rest.. Also I note something I think is very important : there is no CPU cooler on this A600 GS !? So the The A500 Mini have one ! And Raspberry Pi 4 /400 also need one for cooling, passive or with fan. Emulation need power so i can easily imagine the CPU of the A600 GS wil crash because of to much heat !! What do you think about that ?

[@proteque]

@@dragonbleu1205 That could very well be a problem. I also was told in another comment here that someone tried cloning the sdcard to a better card and it became a lot more snappy. So they may have chosen a too cheap sd-card. however the sdcard is inside the case so not sure what happens to warranty if one opens it and does that.

[@dragonbleu1205]

@@proteque Thank you very much for sharing with me your experience with A600GS. So I think the A500 Mini is a better product for gaming and reliability for beginner in Amiga and for me (gamer and expert in Amiga) my choice go to the Raspberry Pi 4B for everything else on Amiga and retro gaming on other system...

[@AlexandreLollini]

If there is not a piece of tape somewhere, then it's not an Amiga. Test passed.

[@Carlos_Se]

I received my A600GS. Quite disappointed at the moment. It is very slow to use, both in the menus and in Amibench, with frequent random freezes.

[@proteque]

Yes, sadly I experience the same. I have paused testing it for a while. will have a revisit in half a year or so. Hopefully things are a lot better then. They are pushing quite a lot of updates for it. So I still have some hope left for this project.

[@Carlos_Se]

@@proteque I don't think they have a fast build rate. Mine has serial number #159.

[@Carlos_Se]

@@proteque Today I simply replaced/cloned the internal SD memory card with a Samsung brand and the A600GS became much faster and more responsive ! 😀

[@proteque]

@@Carlos_Se that is good to hear! I will give that a note for "things to test" when I revisit it! Thanx for telling me!

[@iamdkk]

I think Raspberry Pi is the way to go... better performance and no lock-in. Loving your videos (but not this product 😂)

[@proteque]

Pimiga is great. I think with the pi5 the power is there for perfect emulation. So not a bad choise.

[@gabor222]

I have tried the PiMiga but it is just an emulation on Linux so I didn't find it more attractive than running winUAE on my main Linux PC. If I understand it properly in on the A600GS though the games are running in emulation the operating system and the installed tools are native, aren't they?

[@proteque]

@@gabor222 yes. it is running inside an emulator (amiberry). running on AROS for m68k.

[@dougjohnson4266]

I never heard of the A600GS, and I am glad yours survived. I purchased a Vampire 4+ stand alone, and the post office crushed the box. The mouse and keyboard were destroyed, but the unit and controllers were ok.

[@proteque]

@@dougjohnson4266 The Vampire is in a totally different league than this one. Would love to own one, one day. A bit outside my budget though. Sorry to hear the postman crushed your mouse and keyboard. Sometimes I wonder what they do to our packages!

[@slaapliedje]

I tend to think the V4SA is a much better experience so far. Especially since you can now run Atari and mac classic stuff on it.

[@proteque]

Would if I could. The price is far out of my reach. Hopefully it will go down a bit. :)

[@slaapliedje]

@proteque I keep thinking I should get the new one... but already have the original v4sa, and one in my a1200 and an a500+ with a v4 and checkmate 1500 case... so many awesome Amigas, not enough time to play them all.

[@proteque]

@@slaapliedje sounds like some wonderfull setups. Closest I have to something like that is the pistorm in my A500. I love it.

[@Mindboggle100]

"Productivity software! Isn't Final Writer aboyt 35 years behind current M$ Wordpad... more or less?

[@proteque]

@@Mindboggle100 absolutely (well maybe more 30 than 35). Thats what I like about older programs. I do hardly ever use office software though. I guess Final Writer is more a nostalgia visit than a needed visit. The productivity apps I do use often though is the pixelers and music programs. Not because I need these older software, more because I have a good time using them. It is an escape from the modern world. A bit like tinkering with an old car, organizing a book collection, listening to vinyl and that kind of hobbies. (For me at least)

[@Mindboggle100]

@@proteque 100% agree on "escaping" for those precious moments. For what it is worth, I still fire up Macintosh Claris Works, from early1990. Its basic, but the simplicity doesn't hinder writing. Apple was a different beast back in the day. I had an Amiga 1000, its a serious computer. Workbench wasn't a "hand holder", you had to have a fair amount of ability to use an Amiga deyond gaming. Having said that playing Amiga R-Type, took all my spare time! Anyways in this World just do more of what keeps you "sane", if that is Fimal Writer so be it ;-)

[@Basserino84]

I used to read a lot of music production magazines and plenty of artists endorsed growing up on Commodore/ Amiga computers as a gold standard for what you could achieve. Unfortunately, this project looked miserable throughout your demonstration. I hope you get the update/ modernization you were expecting soon.

[@proteque]

So do I. My real Amiga with pistorm got me covered though. But still sheering for some fresh breath into AROS.

[@Basserino84]

@@proteque heh, being it's not "my generation" I've read about AROS but my big jump so far has been Linux. If I have more access to gear maybe I try it out.

[@tinytoons2517]

I like your amiga 600, but alas I'm an Atari 1040st fanatic . . .

[@proteque]

@@tinytoons2517 i love the st and even more the ste as well! One does not exclude the other luckily.

[@alexandergross7132]

kevin costner as the postman would have gotten the packet to you without any damage ;)

[@FlyboyHelosim]

He proteque. He attaque. He eat snaque!

[@proteque]

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[@RainerK.]

I don't think that ARM emulation is strong enough for a nice Amiga desktop yet.

[@proteque]

@@RainerK. i have not tested the pi5 so cant speak for that. But besides that all my tries support what you say!

[@20windfisch11]

The Pi400 actually runs OS3.9 with RTG quite decently.

[@LivingLinux]

​@@protequeThere are plenty of ARM chips that are multiple times faster than a Pi 5. And now that Intel N100 SBCs are available at a similar price as the Pi 5, performance is really not an issue.

[@proteque]

@@LivingLinux i bought myself a N100 based one and I am very very impressed with it. Any suggestion on ARM based system I should look into?

[@LivingLinux]

@@proteque I have several Rockchip RK3588 devices. Linux support is improving, and recently Collabora released the open source GPU driver Panthor. Particle has a Kickstarter project with a Snapdragon SBC, named Tachyon. They say the Qualcomm QCM6490 can run Ubuntu 24.04. I have plans to buy a Snapdragon X Elite laptop from Tuxedo (end of this year), but that is in another price range.

[@MichalBergseth-AmitopiaTV]

Lots of updates is coming. It is using AROS because of legal reasons. Be patient. It will be better.

[@MariaEngstrom]

Are customers aware that they are buying a product that is in the alpha state?

[@proteque]

@@MichalBergseth-AmitopiaTV i will for sure update it and keep testing in. I hope my believe in the future dor the products managed to shined through it all. But had to be honest as well!

[@jothain]

I thought this might be insanely interesting device and for the unboxing and initial startup it was. But that's just bad overall. Plus I _never_ _ever_ trust developers stating "things will be fixed". Talking isn't enough, making it work is.

[@BigLebowski1337]

So let me recap.. it crashes a lot.. both in launcher as in the workbench.. it has heavy keyboard delays and the mouse input is laggy too.. it is super slow. So why on earth would anyone buy this???

[@dragonbleu1205]

Sure is not like an Apollo Vampire V4 !

[@proteque]

Far from! Very far from! And also: far from in price :) The Vampire is awesome. I hope I one day can buy one.

[@dragonbleu1205]

@@proteque I hope to you can buy one soon !

[@TheSulross]

Website wants email address before can even look at anything - bailed

[@proteque]

They have a shop as well! That has more information. youtube will delete my link but google amigakit if you are interested in it.

[@coolvideos8864]

Sadly I found mine to be massively underpowered and overpriced.

[@proteque]

That is not a good feeling. At the moment I share the same view. I have put mine in a drawer for now. Will revisit it in half a year to see if it is worth using my time on then.

[@coolvideos8864]

@@proteque Yeah, I bought it at an Amiga event in Nottingham on a whim. Nevermind lol Sad thing is I already have an a500 mini and its faster lol

[@A600GS]

@@coolvideos8864 Have you updated with the latest software update: we are producing updates every week or so . Go to the Amisphere menu and under the Downloads button are quite a few games available to download and install. The A600GS has a faster CPU and a lot more memory than THEA500 Mini so it shoud not be slower.

[@MichiMilchmelker]

Intressting if you could use this as a media server or website/ftp server. Then you own just an amiga server in a corner. That would be really intressting and cheap 130 or what this thingi cost. Alone the software on it is money back. Arm is the future for amiga, it is cheap have power and i hope the dead ppc since 20years dead system find now a end new arm software will come. Easy, cheap, refreshing and modern. Why some old PPC baron still hold on there 20year dead system nobody knows. There is no new PPC or Motorola Chip ever ever ever coming. Take this new and accept future or let the system die my god.

[@NineInchTyrone]

It could have been great

[@proteque]

Absolutely. "close but no cigar" still though.

[@A600GS]

This video is very out of date and dozens of software updates and improvements have been made in the last few months. We actively are updating the system on a week by week basis. Downloadable updates are free for users.

[@Turrican]

As a long time Amiga fan, I'm desperate for these things to do well, but this looks basically unfinished.

[@proteque]

Thats pretty much the situation I am in as well. It started when Commodore went bank and it seems to never end. The A600GS is indeed unfinished. Luckily they do release lots of updates, so I still think it will get there.

[@Neruomir]

Yea this is a step in the right direction but it failed to identify it's target audience to cater to. For casuals the A500 mini is hard to beat, for the intermediate retro tinker there is the pie based SBC's, the A500 maxi then there is the OG hardware nerds that would not touch this emulator with a 10foot pole and the FPGA crowd that has the Mister, Vampire and the Minimig. Where does this fit in were it can compete and has a demand? Even the OS/DE is a bastard hybrid of Aros. :S Kind of comes off as a Vampire SA knockoff.

[@proteque]

I did make an update video of this to show the current state. it is not in this state anymore luckily.

[@Darkest_matter]

Why is it so slow

[@proteque]

My guess is that it is slow because it is running AROS on emulated 68k. and AROS on 68k is not fast sadly. I hope it will improve a lot when they start getting more and more of the libraries ported over to ARM. I am not sure why it is not done the other way around though. AROS running nativly on ARM and some 68k emulation when needed. Like morphos does it. Not sure all components needed exists. Just started to dig into AROS again after some years.

[@danielktdoranie]

Looks like it shipped through the Ukraine 😂

[@RockTo11]

Hmmm my A1200 with a 50MHz 68030 seems faster and nicer to use, in high resolution 1024x768.... AGA only. (In this video, I run Final Writer too). kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ6koX99g9hnaK8

[@proteque]

Nice Amiga you have there. That monitor looks great as well.

[@ilpojaaskelainen1552]

:) Windows keys are such a turn down. I really don't know why but that's how it is.

[@proteque]

hehe right?! I used to hate them for real back when they where introduced! Made it a point to have keyboards without it on my Linux machine! Nowdays it mostly a fun thing to make fun of!

[@Alphadec]

Amigakit is focusing too much on games, games, games.

[@agooshaw]

Just a cheap android TV box... cash grab.

[@proteque]

It is running on a normal Linuxdistro, but yes. I do see your point! I hope it turns into what I wanted it to be. They are releasing a lot of updates. So not all hope is lost yet.

[@ArgosWarrior]

Just another piece of junk cashing in

[@proteque]

I did make an update video of this to show the current state. it is not in this poor state anymore luckily.

[@speedbird737]

Glad I didn't buy it!

[@A600GS]

This video is very out of date and dozens of software updates and improvements have been made in the last few months. We actively are updating the system on a week by week basis. Downloadable updates are free for users.

[@CrashUK28]

A600GS is did turd.

[@2crude2crudeofficialband3]

So don’t buy one. Problem solved.

[@ddabrahim]

What is so special about the Amiga productivity softwares that made you buy this computer? I watched only 8 minutes, but I can already see it is not for me. Crashed 3-4 times in 8 minutes. No thanks. But why the productivity software and not the games? Any Linux, BSD system would definitely do better in my opinion or even any old Mac, Windows computer even.

[@proteque]

Nostalgia. Simple as that. And indeed, this computer is not ready for end users imho. Hopefully that will change.

[@jozztv1661]

You can have high hopes all you want for it to me it looks like crap. What they forgot what a A600 looks like and put it in a black box talk about cut corners.

[@proteque]

@@jozztv1661 I have no problem understanding your view. From all the problems I have had (lots since uploading, even bricked the update system and needed to reflash it (the support was fast though)) it is now no longer on my desk either. Will revisit in some months and write a comment on how it is then. Or if it has turned amazing I will make a new video.